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How Germany and the USSR planned to attack India

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How Germany and the USSR planned to attack India

In 1939-40, the ministries of foreign affairs of the USSR and Germany were actively discussing a plan for a joint operation - raising an uprising in Afghanistan and Tibet against the British colonialists in India. But by the summer of 1940, both sides had cooled towards this idea, fearing opposition from the British.


The main ideologue of the rapprochement of Germany and the USSR on the "Eastern Question" was Ernst Schaefer, a high-ranking SS official and an activist of the occult order "Ahnenerbe". It was he who, from 1936, developed the famous SS expedition to Tibet, which was eventually carried out in 1938-39. Officially, it was devoted to the search for the “ancestral home of the Aryans,” but unofficially, the Germans studied the potential area of ​​hostilities.

At the end of September 1939, when Schaefer was formally in the SS Leybshtandart preparatory camp in Prague, Foreign Minister Ribbentrop held a meeting. It discussed the upcoming military operations in Afghanistan and Tibet, as well as the need for their coordination with the Soviet side. In addition to the minister, Fritz Grobba, curator of the eastern sector of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Werner Otto von Genting and Ernst Schäfer, took part in the conversation. First, the "Afghan version" was discussed. It was assumed that the government of Afghanistan should oppose England. It was necessary to negotiate this in Moscow, since the USSR was the greatest friend of this Central Asian country.

According to the “Tibetan variant”, the German Foreign Ministry did not conduct any negotiations with Moscow. But it was assumed that here it was necessary to enlist the support of Moscow. Even before contacts were established with Molotov, in the German Foreign Ministry decided to combine both topics into one.


(Ernst Schaefer on a Tibetan expedition, 1938-39)


November 3 Schaefer with a detailed plan meets Heinrich Himmler. During their conversation, the date of a possible performance in Asia is called Summer of the Year 1940.

From November-December 1939, the Soviet side began to actively support all German initiatives in Asia. Conversations on this topic were at the highest level. As a rule, they were discussed by the German ambassador to the USSR, Friedrich Schulenburg, and the Soviet head of the NKID, Vyacheslav Molotov. The USSR actively bargained with Germany - in compensation for loyalty in the Asian campaign, he demanded substantial military technical assistance.

The operation had an unexpected obstacle in Germany - in the face of the ideologist of national socialism Alfred Rosenberg, a fierce Russophobe and at the same time an Anglophil. Ribbentrop, by contrast, was a Russophile and hated the British since his work as ambassador to England. Despite active opposition from Rosenberg, Ribbentrop continued to negotiate with the USSR. He commissioned this line to the State Secretary of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Theodor Habiht.


In December, 1939, the ideologist of the Russian-German rapprochement, Peter Kleist agreed to start negotiations in Moscow. Kleist, Genteg and Habicht were supposed to take part in them. Ernst Schaefer and Afghan Foreign Minister Ghulam Sittik Khan were also to attend. Again, the German Foreign Ministry was forced to hold defenses against Alfred Rosenberg and Friedrich Grobbe. In particular, Rosenberg proposed to overthrow the current government in Afghanistan - it seemed to him too pro-Soviet, and to bet on the pro-German opposition. He feared that in the implementation of Ribbentrop's plan, the USSR would have played too large a role in operations in Asia.

While this conflict flared up between the two German departments, Kleist negotiated with Molotov in Moscow. 29 November 1939 of the year Habiht formulated a memorandum. The USSR was supposed to give permission to transport through its territory weapon and army units. 1 and 7 December 1939, Moscow, discussed the prospects for two simultaneous operations (Afghan and Tibetan).

December 18 Kleist meets with Molotov. On their conversation with Molotov, Ambassador Schulenburg reported to Berlin:

“The information I provided was discussed in detail with Molotov. Molotov agreed to support these plans in the event that more accurate information was provided on the principles of the implementation of the actions, as well as on their methods. I propose to return to Berlin and develop the documents requested by Molotov. ”


The diplomatic unification of two different operations — Tibetan and Afghan — was aimed at undermining the colonial might of England in Asia. They went in a “package”, and it was important that the USSR approved both operations. 20 December 1939, Rosenberg meets with Hitler and reports to him on the progress of the preparation of Asian operations. Rosenberg warns Hitler: these actions will deprive Germany of any chance of success in possible negotiations with England. The Nazi ideologue saw the main goal in the destruction of "Jewish Bolshevism" without engaging England in it.

The Ribbentrop Office, as well as the SS, prepared a plan for Asian operations. Schaefer wrote that the advanced political detachment of the Germans was supposed to be an 200 man (mostly SS people). It was supposed to work against the English colonial authorities "in the style of Lawrence of Arabia," ie with the hands of the tribes surrounding India. The Tibetan authorities also had to provoke the Chinese and Nepalese against the British in the provinces of North Sikkam, Yunnan, Setchuan and Kansu. To do this, it was necessary to transfer the German expedition also across the Soviet territory through Beijing and Lanzhou (it was necessary to enlist the support of the Japanese authorities). The operation was supposed to cost 2-3 million Reichsmarks. The USSR was required to support the monetary and technically Afghan side.


In February and March 1940, Kleist again holds several meetings with Molotov. The Soviet side unequivocally expressed support for the Tibetan expedition led by Schaefer. About the second part of the operation - the Afghan USSR continued to think. Alexandrov, the curator of the German sector in the NKID, guaranteed Kleist that the USSR would give permission for the passage of Schäfer's expedition without any problems. The Soviet side was even ready to send letters of recommendation to the Chinese authorities (both Chiang Kai-shek and Mao Dzedun, who controlled South-West China).

To Tibet for safety net (one of the paths would suddenly fail), the first path of the German expedition from SSovtsev lay through Almaty. The second is through Chinese Kashgar. Schaefer was supposed to bribe the Tibetan princes to begin speaking out against the British in Southern Tibet, Sikkim and Bhutan. Germany promised to transfer to Tibet a part of the regions of North Sikkim, which the English occupied at the beginning of the century.

Soviet participation in the Tibetan part of the invasion was not only in the transit of the Germans through its territory, but also in the provision of transport and fuel. In the event of a successful start of hostilities against the British, the Tibetans, the USSR agreed to "stimulate" the Afghans to speak. Thus, English India would fall into a fiery arc — in the west (in the area of ​​present-day Pakistan) Afghans, in the north Tibetans, in the southeast Chinese tribes. Then there would be a high probability of the beginning of an all-Indian uprising against the British.


Ribbentrop, Schaefer and Kleist have now shifted the start of the operation to the May-June 1941 of the year. But in April, 1940, surrounded by Hitler, was defeated by the point of view of Alfred Rosenberg - the Asian operation is extremely harmful for Germany, it undermines the potential treaty with England and sharply strengthens the position of the USSR in Central Asia. The plan of the German Foreign Ministry was thwarted, the USSR was perplexed about such a change in the position of an ally. The last sluggish attempt to reanimate the project was made in June-July 1940, only through the Tibetan version. 10 July 1940, the Asian plan for the war of Germany against British India was finally buried.

(Quotes - Mierau Peter, Nationalsozialistische Expeditionspolitik: Deutsche Asien-expeditionen 1933-1945 (2006); Ernst Schäfer's diary "Secrets of Tibet")
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  1. rpek32
    rpek32 14 May 2013 15: 28
    23
    Not tired of them still raising bones? Or do not calm down until the USSR and the Nazis change places? am
    1. pribolt
      pribolt 14 May 2013 19: 04
      13
      More and more new versions and historians no longer seem to know what to compose, it seems like a script for a new Hollywood masterpiece about * the terrible atrocities of the Russians *
    2. fortunophile
      fortunophile 14 May 2013 19: 17
      19
      Quote: rpek32
      Not tired of them still raising bones? Or they won’t calm down until the USSR and the Nazis change places

      Continuation of the script about Nazism-Communism and Stalin-Hitler. To the Western man in the street, everything is presented that there were two aggressive systems, but the benefit of a fight between themselves, otherwise they would have conquered the whole world and put everyone in concentration camps and gulags. How was the esaul broadcasting: "Nasty. Vile. AGAINST"
      I want to pay attention to the title of the article !!! It is not about how the USSR and Germany wanted to free India from the yoke of England, but about their plan to attack India !!!
      1. Guun
        Guun 14 May 2013 19: 25
        +9
        (frightened by the opposition of the British.) from the article embarrassed, Germany bombed the British and for some reason were not afraid of their opposition, the Nazis drove them to their mainland and smashed them in Africa. True USSR all plans Hitler spoiled. And then, only at the end of the war, the Allies, collecting more than a million meat, landed in Normandy against several thousand warriors General Romel who managed to shed a lot of their blood. And the entire Western front was moving languidly despite the fact that all the power of the Nazis was thrown against the advance of the USSR. I think let the west underestimate us, but it’s better for us.
        1. Ivan.
          Ivan. 14 May 2013 19: 59
          +8
          Study those days better. Remember the beginning of the Second World War - a "strange war", after a long time Hitler dumps allies into the Channel in a gentlemanly way, waiting for the end of their hasty evacuation, a sluggish air war and only at the end of the war massive bombing by insolent civilians and infrastructure. As a result, Naglia, having fought with Germany for 2 years longer than the USSR, lost 100 !!! times fewer people. They had the task of imitating military actions and finally finishing off weakened opponents - otherwise they do not fight.
          1. Apologet insane
            Apologet insane 15 May 2013 06: 03
            -3
            As a result, the people who lost 100 times less were probably very grateful to Churchill. This is only our "women are still giving birth." And with the damned capitalists, every person was valuable.
        2. northwest
          northwest 15 May 2013 02: 54
          0
          So they smashed that in the end they lost the company in Africa, having lost 620 thousand killed, wounded and captured with the Italians. The military operation in Africa lasted 2 years, and then the landing of the Allied forces in Italy. Given that a large number of military equipment and soldiers were distracted for this, and this is the third part of the total number, it is not difficult to imagine what role this played for the USSR before landing in Normandy.
    3. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 14 May 2013 19: 20
      +7
      In the years 1939-40, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs USSR and Germany They actively discussed the plan of a joint operation - an uprising in Afghanistan and Tibet against the British colonialists in India. But by the summer of 1940, both sides had cooled to this idea, frightened by the opposition of the British.

      USSR + Germany 39-40xx = fear of countering the British?
      Does the author himself believe in what he writes?

      To this a very interesting article:

      Where do the pshets come from

      ("Przeglad", Poland)
      http://www.inosmi.ru/world/20061010/230374.html
      1. nevopros
        nevopros 14 May 2013 20: 54
        +1
        After inosmi ru my head hurts from fantasy because of the "bump".
      2. OTAKE
        OTAKE 15 May 2013 06: 47
        -1
        Quote: GreatRussia
        USSR + Germany 39-40xx = fear of countering the British?
        Does the author himself believe in what he writes?

        German general Heinz Guderian and Soviet brigade commander Semyon Krivoshein.


        German and Soviet officers in Brest




        T-26 passes by German motorcyclists
        1. Kite
          Kite 15 May 2013 19: 05
          0
          OTAKE, pay attention to the fact that the joint parade in Brest takes place there, and not in Warsaw, and after the transfer of the captured Brest by Guderian. Now look for the reasons for this.
    4. Mitek
      Mitek 14 May 2013 20: 10
      +4
      another fruit of a sick imagination seasoned with a heel of old photos ...
    5. Deniska999
      Deniska999 14 May 2013 20: 12
      +6
      And here Ernst Schaefer's diary, I did not understand. I read it cover to cover - there is nothing on the topic of the article.
    6. Vadivak
      Vadivak 14 May 2013 20: 39
      +7
      Quote: ...
      But by the summer of 1940, both sides had cooled to this idea, frightened by the opposition of the British.


      Oh, thanks. Now it’s clear why Adolf attacked England, France and Poland, of course with a fright, and then he got even more afraid and fell upon the USSR

      A few quotes from that time for clarity of the pact with Germany

      Secretary General of the French Foreign Ministry Leger to the American Ambassador Bullitt, January 11, 1940: "France will not break off diplomatic relations with the Soviet Union or declare war on it, it will destroy the Soviet Union, if possible - with the help of guns."

      On January 24, 1940, the Chief of the Imperial General Staff of England, General Ironside, presented to the military cabinet a memorandum on "The main strategy of the war," where he wrote: "In my opinion, we can provide effective assistance to Finland only if we attack Russia from as many directions as possible and , which is especially important, we will strike at Baku, the region of oil production, in order to cause a serious state crisis in Russia ”

      On January 31, 1940, at a meeting of the chiefs of staff of England and France in Paris, French General Gamelin invited the British to bombard targets deep in Russia, and the deputy chief of staff of the British Air Force, Marshal Pierce, supported this proposal.

      As they say, where the horse with the hoof, there is cancer with the claw. Iran’s War Minister Nahjawan asked the British to supply 80 aircraft and coordinate plans for a war with Russia.

      The bombing of the USSR is scheduled for May 15, 1940. At the airfields of the British and French Air Force in the Middle East, stockpiles of aviation fuel, high-explosive and incendiary bombs were accumulated, navigators plotted on the maps of the direction of the strikes, the pilots worked out night bombing. On May 10, 1940, Raynaud called Churchill, saying that France was ready for the May 15 attack.

      But on May 10, a frightened Hitler swept France off the political map, so as for the summer of 1940, the author is clearly not aware that England itself was afraid and prayed that Hitler would turn to the USSR
    7. Atlon
      Atlon 14 May 2013 21: 42
      15
      Quote: rpek32
      Not tired of them still raising bones? Or do not calm down until the USSR and the Nazis change places?

      By the way, Russia and Germany were always gravitating and gravitating towards each other, which the British always did not like and did not like. All our wars with Germany are initiated and provoked by Britain. If Russia and Germany united in achieving goals, pushing Britain to the background, the world would be completely different! I do not condone Nazism and Hitler Germany, but we must understand that Hitler was brought to power by Jews and British. They gave him half of Europe, gave them strength and set him against Russia (USSR). Hitler might not exist, but the union of Germany and Russia could change the balance of power in the world dramatically!
      1. Rustiger
        Rustiger 14 May 2013 23: 30
        +2
        Quote: Atlon
        Atlon

        Paul. Your post seems to be the only one on this thread, for which I "plus"
        Many works have already been published by both military historians and economists-political scientists, in which they reasonably call the "war of Germany with the USSR" - STRANGE. What became disliked in the first place is the impudent Amero-Jews. Otherwise, all their "justifications" go to hell.

        One example from many. Who can answer why there is not a single document dated earlier than May 1941, in which there would be at least a hint of the command's plans (strategic and tactical) for an attack on the USSR, and about Belgium and Holland were developed in half a year! Those. in two months "attack" on the USSR, the Germans "WERE SURE" that they would MAKE Stalin easier for the WHOLE EUROPE. Hitlerjuga had very good strategic commanders!
        1. Ivan.
          Ivan. 15 May 2013 00: 39
          0
          Paul. Your post seems to be the only one on this thread, for which I "plus"

          I also singled it out against the background of meaningless remarks, while reading such comments you don’t think of the time spent as lost. Here, I had to give more cons - for thoughtlessness.
    8. rasat2013
      rasat2013 14 May 2013 22: 00
      0
      they achieve this
    9. SSR
      SSR 14 May 2013 23: 13
      +4
      Quote: rpek32
      Not tired of them still raising bones?

      Teddy .... these are our Bones, they they tousled ... it’s time to turn their bones .. what ... the world forgot how the British shot Indians with cannons?
      Why on earth should I be ashamed of the fact that these obscurantists, even in "conspiracy", someone tried to knock out their teeth?
      This is a cannibal country and I do not mind her knocking out teeth.
      PS.
      for forum quack quack ... yes .. I’ll go. because.
      PS,
      Legend number 17 is not in vain the film appeared ...
      This is a film vaccination ...
      This is what makes us understand ... that life, the meaning is not in 30 pieces of silver
      This film is about the things above!
      This is about the fact that not everything can be measured in money ... but there is a Russian Soul and a Russian Will ...
      Pathetic? go to the tree stump who thinks so .. and you can "score" ...
      Russians do not give up!
      1. The comment was deleted.
    10. Alx1miK
      Alx1miK 15 May 2013 01: 52
      0
      The Germans offered Stalin to abandon the claims in Bessarabia and Bukovina in favor of a tidbit in the form of India (Hitler was afraid of the advancement of the Soviets in the Balkans, because Romanian oil fed Verkhmakht). Stalin refused, which was later reported to Ribbentrop Molotov. In the bunker, where they were hiding from the English bombers during a raid on Berlin in the 40th year. These conversations did not go further. They trash the same pancake.
    11. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 15 May 2013 03: 18
      -2
      The author is probably -5-Y-LEFT.
    12. Kite
      Kite 15 May 2013 18: 54
      0
      It’s they who don’t stir bones, but r ... they continue tossing at the fan. They wrote such a thing that the youngster would not believe it, he would ask the source to show it.
      England to "undermine" through India, leaving the metropolis itself in the rear? Is it more difficult to cross the English Channel?
      Germany in Afghanistan and Tibet ?! Llamas are more hateful than the communists, and the Germans didn’t have enough hash?
      Well ...., this scribbler hashish seen regularly delivered through the channels of government services.
  2. Diamond
    Diamond 14 May 2013 16: 59
    +2
    We had to continue this operation ourselves, without Germany.
  3. Tan4ik
    Tan4ik 14 May 2013 18: 58
    -2
    Why not?)
  4. svp67
    svp67 14 May 2013 19: 00
    0
    How Germany and the USSR planned to attack India
    , it didn’t work out - well, and probably thank God.
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 14 May 2013 19: 42
      0
      Not the exact name, not India, but Naglia. And it would be wise to weaken their eternal enemies. Probably this Jew Rosenberg kept in touch with the accused, so they counteracted. As the Germans advanced (during the war), cruelty and senseless terror intensified (mainly against the Slavs), which provoked the increased resistance of the Soviet people, and in this I see the hand of the Naglichans and the Zionists. It was not in their interests to win either Germany or the USSR - this article is another little touch on how Naglia can benefit from any situation.
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 14 May 2013 23: 18
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      , it didn’t work out - well, and probably thank God.

      No, this story once again shows that Angia has always been strong in intelligence and diplomacy !!!
  5. Withoutdream
    Withoutdream 14 May 2013 19: 01
    16 th
    Interesting article. More to such. Thanks to the author!
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 14 May 2013 19: 13
      +3
      Quote: Withoutdream
      Interesting article. More to such. Thanks to the author!

      Interesting, as the delirium of a madman is interesting to a psychiatrist. So let such articles be written in the "psychiatry" department. What is written in the article is even steeper than Suvorov's crossing over the Alps. Do you have any idea the scale of the logistical problems?
      1. alex13-61
        alex13-61 14 May 2013 20: 35
        +3
        You take a look where this article came from here ...
        Although about the preparation of the uprising against England - I liked it ...
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 14 May 2013 20: 50
          +5
          Quote: alex13-61
          Although about the preparation of the uprising against England - I liked it ...


          But the idea is true, they would deprive England of the colonies and the island of Khan.
          1. Ivan.
            Ivan. 14 May 2013 21: 27
            +1
            Quote: Vadivak
            Quote: alex13-61
            Although about the preparation of the uprising against England - I liked it ...


            But the idea is true, they would deprive England of the colonies and the island of Khan.

            That is precisely why such events could take place, recall Napoleon before the attack on Russia - also joint action against Naglia in the colonies since a direct strike was unrealistic. And so the islanders confused all the cards. The father of lies may be of Zionist blood, but he was born in London.
            1. Rustiger
              Rustiger 15 May 2013 00: 14
              0
              Greetings, Ivan! I did not read your post, I scribbled my own.
              In principle, "also an egg, only a side view." hi good drinks
              1. Ivan.
                Ivan. 15 May 2013 00: 31
                +2
                Good evening to you too. If you didn’t read it, it turned out funny with the effect of deja vu. smile
                1. Rustiger
                  Rustiger 15 May 2013 01: 00
                  +2
                  But I, Ivan, re-read a lot and turned over the whole tyrnet a year and a half ago on the topic of analogies between the war with Napoleon and Hitler. Especially about the geopolitical reasons for their occurrence. When a kind and semblance of friendship loomed between two future opponents, and mutual reproaches skillfully kindled by third countries, and specifically by Nagliya and the recently "hatched" Americosia.

                  PS Collected information for the wife of the teacher's wife. In one of the contests on "their" historical portal, she even "raised" the second place. And a grant of fifty thousand. Rubles, of course rubles. ... ... yes
          2. Rustiger
            Rustiger 14 May 2013 23: 56
            +2
            Quote: Vadivak
            would deprive England of the colonies and the island of Khan

            That was the point in bringing Hitler to Stalin. Now they want to repeat such a scenario between Russia and China. Mutual weakening / destruction, gaining strength of potential adversaries of Judoamer.
            At the beginning of the XNUMXth century, he worked qualitatively with France and Russia. One of Naglia’s rivals cleared the muffler. And they could have done something else. Partial result, but achieved!

            Many specialists in specific areas cite the prerequisites and milestones for the development of two conflicts of the Franco-Russian and German-Soviet. They match up to 85-90%. Since the appearance on the political arena of two unknown figures of Napoleon and Hitler 15-20 years before the bloody wars. Before skimming the cream with Nagliya after two attempts to "self-liquidate" the greatest peoples of Europe.
            At the moment, those western great nations are practically NO. And the third - Russia, makes efforts to survive, fending off from all positions from the same arrogant udosaks.
      2. NOBODY EXCEPT US
        NOBODY EXCEPT US 14 May 2013 23: 23
        -2
        And what is wrong with the transition?
  6. treskoed
    treskoed 14 May 2013 19: 02
    0
    We need to figure out what Lomonosov did in Germany for several years?
  7. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 14 May 2013 19: 31
    0
    The British got it with their India, since the time of Paul 1, for a little over 100 years they were yelling that the Russians were planning to invade India. about the Germans, this is generally nonsense of a madman (see atlas, globe, etc ....).
  8. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 14 May 2013 20: 37
    -1
    Submit this article to the GUM CLUB. There guys the whole story will show how they can! Or give it to a psychiatric hospital, it will be a guide for psychiatrists ... at the editorial choice ...
  9. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 14 May 2013 20: 43
    +2
    Ribbentrop, by contrast, was a Russophile

    Yes, how they "loved" the Russians and other peoples, they perfectly showed in Khatyn, near Moscow and Leningrad, and then everywhere, throughout the occupied territory of the USSR
    1. Ivanovich47
      Ivanovich47 14 May 2013 20: 57
      0
      Millions of Russian people were destroyed with "love"
  10. Proud.
    Proud. 14 May 2013 21: 01
    +3
    I followed the link to the original source. I saw an interesting postscript at the end of the article: "... Henceforth, the editorial staff of the Interpreter's Blog undertakes to transfer 10% of gratitude payments from its readers to help political prisoners (!!!). We will publish a report on these funds ... "It is interesting to know what kind of political prisoners we are talking about.
    1. AdAAkRuSS
      AdAAkRuSS 14 May 2013 23: 27
      +2
      Yes, it’s clear what: all sorts of Khorkovs and the like, but not to Kvachkov.
    2. Rustiger
      Rustiger 15 May 2013 00: 20
      +1
      Quote: Be proud.
      It is interesting to know what political prisoners are in question.

      Potential, proud, potential.
      Alekseeva, gerberas, Fedotov, Vienna-dictum, Shenderovich, bull, daredevil, Chubas, Nemtsov and similar frauds.
      But maybe we will survive, and these themselves will solder themselves for soldering. In mines or logging. . .
      1. AdAAkRuSS
        AdAAkRuSS 15 May 2013 05: 41
        0
        We still forgot anal.
  11. Black
    Black 14 May 2013 21: 03
    0
    The fact that the Germans were looking for ways to destabilize Central Asia with an eye on the British colonies is more likely than the search for "roots", well, maybe one did not interfere with the other. Joseph Vissarionovich was not a mystic, but to go crazy and let another wolf into the underbelly of the country is pulling on fairy tales and a stream of consciousness.
    1. nevopros
      nevopros 14 May 2013 21: 57
      0
      Not everything is so simple. At the time of 38 and the beginning of 39, there was a serious play of interests and to annoy England with the hands of Germany for the USSR is an ideal option. But Hitler was not brought up for "friendship" with Germany and the Union. Here's how to look ...
  12. luka095
    luka095 14 May 2013 21: 11
    +1
    The article is a typical example of a liberal press. Acting, by the way, in the best traditions of Goebbels propaganda. Therefore, the article is without a signature, and from a site that can not cause anything but disgust.
    1. luka095
      luka095 14 May 2013 22: 13
      0
      Curious, what's the minus? I would like to understand what we disagree with. Write, the rationale for your point of view is interesting.
      1. Rustiger
        Rustiger 15 May 2013 00: 27
        0
        Quote: luka095
        Curious, what's the minus?

        One is mine. For the same unreasoned statement. That the "liberal press" is not favored here is understandable.
        But consider this a "search direction". In front of you the same tyrnet, like everyone else. If you find a refutation, you will get a discussion and a bunch of "pluses". And so. ... ... request

        Well, for the question in the second post "+". I noticed that this "justification" is not often practiced here. hi
        1. luka095
          luka095 15 May 2013 14: 38
          0
          Thank you.
  13. nevopros
    nevopros 14 May 2013 21: 18
    0
    The devil is in the details!
    The essence is close to the truth, BUT to regard a similar blow to England as an allied one - A BIG AND BASED FALSE. A possible joint project to weaken England is a purely geopolitical solution.
    It was beneficial to the USSR, if only its role were shadow (you never know how the SS got to India - whether by air, land, al from the moon, they landed).
    For Germany, it is a real opportunity to declare itself as an "equal among equals" and demonstrate its capabilities. Mein Kampf is an Anglophile book like its author. And at the possible time of the proposed operation (1938-1940), Germany did not yet have parity in the military sphere with Great Britain, and it was not for this that British intelligence was moving it along the career ladder.
  14. Red hornet
    Red hornet 14 May 2013 21: 19
    -1
    The secret weapon of the Tibetan striptoplotmillion army:
    The hyperboloid of the engineer Chih Pykh Mikh!
  15. dmb
    dmb 14 May 2013 21: 49
    +2
    Dear site guide. Of course, I understand freedom of opinion and all that jazz, but it’s also possible to get to Mine Kampf’s publications. It’s not a solid law. The article even overtakes Mr. Prokopenko with his musing on the same topics and a bunch of schizophrenic experts. However, it was most likely written by quite sane people who were actively working for the benefit of the German and Anglo-Saxon peoples. He reckons with such a mind, weakened by the struggle against Bolotnaya Square, he pokes on the head of Zyuganov, as a representative of the red-brown alliance, sporting Orthodox Russia, a successor of the Aryans and Shambhala affairs, and they will bring claims to you for this. For the authors of this nonsense are clearly outside the borders of our long-suffering Motherland, and weakened mind cannot reach them.
    1. nevopros
      nevopros 14 May 2013 22: 01
      -1
      Yes of course. Sometimes it’s worth muffling emotions and looking at the same Kampf mine from the point of view of a political scientist. Or military.
  16. Igarr
    Igarr 14 May 2013 22: 05
    +1
    Although you can be glad.
    Such unanimity is worth a lot.
    So them, brothers, so .... all kinds of borozopisets !!!
    It is strange that they didn’t attach the photo, how Stalin and Ribbentrop bite a llama ... in Tibet. Or with a llama - an English child.
    Could and what. Photoshop has no barriers.
  17. family tree
    family tree 14 May 2013 23: 06
    +1
    Wow, what an enchanting delirium. The country of the border pushes aside the potential enemy, builds up the army, re-arises from the last forces, concludes a non-aggression agreement, so that, at least somehow, to gain time, suddenly BAM!
    But should we, with our sworn enemy, go to India to conquer, along the way, the friendly government in Afghanistan, let’s throw off our heels. Interestingly, does the author have a reference? From the psychiatric hospital that he is not registered there?
  18. Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 14 May 2013 23: 10
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    Quote: luka095
    Curious, what's the minus? I would like to understand what we disagree with. Write, the rationale for your point of view is interesting.


    Here are the liberals and you are liberalized. repeat
    And on the topic, then complete nonsense. Traitors of the people and Russia did not transfer to Russia angry
  19. andsavichev2012
    andsavichev2012 14 May 2013 23: 22
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    Great script for another RTV crap !!!
    1. AdAAkRuSS
      AdAAkRuSS 14 May 2013 23: 33
      +1
      I already saw a filmets on this topic, it was a long time ago, I do not want to lie, but in my opinion I did Svanadza.
      1. Rustiger
        Rustiger 15 May 2013 00: 32
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        Quote: AdAAkRuSS
        Svanadza did.

        Is it correct to say or "SWINIDZE", and if for kashrut, then"SIONIDZE"
        1. AdAAkRuSS
          AdAAkRuSS 15 May 2013 05: 34
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          What is the difference between Svinidze-Svanadza, all the same, for a long time everyone understood who he is. Although Sinoidze, a more accurate definition.
  20. AdAAkRuSS
    AdAAkRuSS 14 May 2013 23: 22
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    Quote: Vadivak
    Quote: ...
    But by the summer of 1940, both sides had cooled to this idea, frightened by the opposition of the British.


    Oh, thanks. Now it’s clear why Adolf attacked England, France and Poland, of course with a fright, and then he got even more afraid and fell upon the USSR

    A few quotes from that time for clarity of the pact with Germany

    Secretary General of the French Foreign Ministry to Leger - American Ambassador Bullitt, January 11, 1940: “France will not break off diplomatic relations with the Soviet Union or declare war on it, it will destroy the Soviet Union, if possible - with the help of guns.
    I was pleased with this quote, where the key phrase is: IF IT IS POSSIBLE! laughing And in front of Germany immediately in the pose of cancer stood crying gourmets, your mother .... by the leg
  21. Bezarius
    Bezarius 15 May 2013 00: 51
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    Knowing the story + add this info, we can conclude that this information is either fake or the Nazis are just stupid, because their actions do not look logical (and even suicidal), against the background of the existing alternative in the form of an ally like the USSR.
  22. Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 15 May 2013 01: 04
    -2
    On November 29 on November 1939, Habicht formulated a memorandum. The USSR was to give permission to transport weapons and army units across its territory.

    Soviet participation in the Tibetan part of the invasion was not only in the transit of Germans through its territory, but also in the provision of transport and fuel. In the event of a successful start of hostilities of the Tibetans against the British, the USSR agreed to “stimulate” the Afghans to speak. Thus, English India would fall into the arc of fire


    Wow!
    And these people then yell: "Open the Second Front immediately !!!"
  23. mihal74
    mihal74 15 May 2013 01: 39
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    ..... de lines were enough for me ............. more to read ??????
    1. AdAAkRuSS
      AdAAkRuSS 15 May 2013 05: 38
      -2
      No stop not worth it, take care of your nerves negative
  24. kuga
    kuga 15 May 2013 02: 30
    -1
    on the source, the entire site consists of scribble a la unscientific fiction.

    the postscript under the article also "pleased" -

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  25. alexander 2
    alexander 2 15 May 2013 02: 32
    -2
    Bullshit.
  26. Rainger
    Rainger 15 May 2013 04: 36
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    Judging by the absence of a link to any source, it’s really nonsense, except for the fact of the Tibetan SS expedition ...
  27. Belogor
    Belogor 15 May 2013 05: 06
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    Why publish any pseudo-historical garbage here? This publication has a place in some sort of yellow newspaper.
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  29. Bort radist
    Bort radist 15 May 2013 06: 31
    +1
    A little off topic. In Novokuznetsk, the 2002 hockey tournament was held. In the final, a fight took place. And here is what RickChandler from Sportsgrid wrote about this: And how old are these children? Nine? Ten years?
    That is why we should never start a war with Russia. All our children grow up on Harry Potter books. Russian children at this time knock out each other's teeth, each with a fingal under his eye. Novokuznetsk in white sweaters.
    1. Rustiger
      Rustiger 16 May 2013 01: 49
      +1
      Dear Boris! The text does not convey emotions and I did not understand your assessment of what happened. "Pride" for fellow countrywomen should be, BUT -
      THIS IS OUR CHILDREN !!! AND WE LIVE WITH THEM, AND WE HOPE THEIR HOPES THAT WE WILL BE A SUPPORT TO THE OLD.
      Only a few of them will become athletes, and the rest will be found in the entrances, in the yards, on the roads, etc.
      There is no pride for them. I look at it bitterly and scared. . .

      /WITH. Vadim, CCM in Sambo, two-time European medalist, acting coach of the children's team /
      http://i3.x8.net/2/Lv_B.jpg?1368654926
      These will not do that. . .
  30. individual
    individual 15 May 2013 06: 44
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    Another slander and libel on the Soviet Union, its foreign policy.
    The article, in the very table of contents of the publication, emphasizes the USSR aggressor in relation to India. Further, the idea develops that aggression is directed to the entire south of the Asian region: Afghanistan, China, Tibet. Thought embedded, no facts. The author of the article only indicates that Germany enlisted help from the USSR in transport and fuel. The economic ties between Germany and the USSR at that time completely allowed this banal cooperation and nothing more. The authority of the Soviet government in this region was indicated. Yes and no. In neighboring Asian countries there was a powerful influence of England and partly France.
    It was in this conglomerate of state interests that Germany, which was gaining strength, tried to intervene. The Soviet Union, assuming a future threat from Germany, sought by all diplomatic, foreign trade and economic cooperation to delay this aggression, and how it happened is a different story.
  31. sergei tulun
    sergei tulun 15 May 2013 06: 58
    0
    .... yeah, how much bullshit has surfaced over the past twenty years, for some it is of course beneficial to someone, but there are ..... sometimes I want to shoot a TV ....
  32. smoker
    smoker 15 May 2013 07: 21
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    Well, I attacked, I fully admit the possibility that such negotiations against England took place, especially given the fact that the British threatened to bomb the Baku oil fields of the USSR in the event that the Red Army completely seizes the territory of Finland. It is not worth it to be so hostile to perceive any Soviet-German cooperation in the prewar years, because cooperation was also pointless to deny it. Another question is what were the objectives of this cooperation ...