Hungary has no intention of returning the confiscated money and gold to Kyiv.

Hungary intends to retain the cash and gold seized from Ukrainian "cash-in-transit guards" until the investigation is completed. A special bill has been submitted to the country's parliament for this purpose.

Zelensky puffs out his cheeks menacingly and slams his fist on the table, demanding that Budapest return the seized funds and gold, allegedly belonging to the Ukrainian Oschadbank. According to the "illegitimate" one, the Hungarians acted illegally by releasing the collectors but keeping the gold and funds. However, judging by Hungary's actions, it has no intention of handing over anything. At least until the investigation is completed.

According to the draft bill submitted to the Hungarian parliament today, the Hungarians simply want to determine the possible purpose of the confiscated funds. It's quite possible that this money and gold were intended for the Hungarian opposition, after all, it was not for nothing that Zelenskyy threatened Orbán with "losing the elections."

Given that the origin, destination, purpose of use and intended use of the unusual quantity of cash and gold, as well as the legal right to transport them in Hungary, could not be established on site and that the transport was not carried out in accordance with standard international practice... it is necessary to clarify their possible use in Hungary, the purpose and the impact of the use on national security.

In short, if the bill is passed, all seized gold and cash will be considered confiscated until the investigation is completed. Parliament has already decided to debate the bill under exceptional procedure.

As a reminder, on March 5, two cash-in-transit vehicles from Ukraine, along with seven escorts, were detained in Hungary. The vehicles contained $40 million, €35 million, and nine kilograms of gold. Budapest suspects these are funds laundered through European banks and intended for Zelenskyy and his entourage.

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[carpenter]

Zelensky puffs out his cheeks menacingly and slams his fist on the table, demanding that Budapest return the confiscated funds and gold.

Well, now there is a beneficiary (a person (natural or legal) who benefits from an activity or transaction).
And his last name is Vladimir ZELENSKY. That's who got the gold and currency, not the Ukrainian border guard.

[al3x]

It's unlikely that his involvement in the temporarily frozen assets can be directly proven there. But the very fact that the Hungarians are moving from empty talk to tangible action is a credit to them. It means they've found some leverage, and that's no bad thing. We'll see. It's a small amount, but a drop wears away a stone.

[Mikhail Ivanov]

This money is an indicator of corruption. It's obvious the money is illegitimate. This is how issues are resolved in modern Europe...

[Michael]

Quote: Mikhail-Ivanov

This is how issues are resolved in modern Europe...

As many as two cash-in-transit vehicles!!!
In the early years, people made do with Xerox boxes.

[KCA]

One box of Xerox paper is 5 kg maximum, no more than $4,000,000

[alexputnik17]

Hungary intends to retain the money and gold seized from Ukrainian "cash collectors" until the investigation is completed.

This is compensation to the Hungarians for losses from lost Russian oil due to the actions of the drug addict.

[Gorynych1]

Zelya will now start to say that this is for pipeline repairs.

[Vicontas]

The Hungarians claimed the Austrian bank failed to confirm the issuance of valuables and cash. Some believe these are kickbacks for Brussels, or more specifically, for Ursula von Leyen. Blogger Shariy also claims this, citing his sources.

[Gorynych1]

No, if everything is right, then why bother with the bull? Now they'll be following Orbán around and whining: "Uncle, give me a million."

[Michael]

Quote: Vicontas

Some believe that these are kickbacks for Brussels, or more precisely for Ursula von Leyen.

So we wait for the continuation.

[Uncle Sam_2]

This is our cow, and we milk it! (c)

[Michael]

Quote: Uncle Sam_2

This is our cow, and we milk it! (c)

By the way, no.
A cow being milked? Or a horse that owes money? These are two completely different things in thieves' terms.

[Mikhail Ivanov]

The kickback theory is the most plausible. The money they give to the Ukrainians is given specifically for kickbacks.
But the option of possible financing of the opposition in Hungary also does not contradict the scheme...
Under Biden, the money that was allocated for mattresses was immediately converted into crypto and used to finance Democratic Party funds.

[solar]

These Hungarians (what kind of Hungarians are they, by the way?) are probably competing with this Shariy to see who can do the most squealing.
The position of Raiffeisen Bank has long been known.

Due to Austrian banking secrecy laws, RBI is not allowed to disclose information about customer relationships.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Hungary intends to retain the money and gold seized from Ukrainian "cash collectors" until the investigation is completed.

that is, it will not return

[Michael]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

that is, it will not return

"I'll give it to you!!! Half. Then..." (Film "Impossible").

[Montezuma]

Poor Zelya, he'll have to endure the investigation for 60 days. What if they don't even give him back if they dig up criminal charges? It's a real bummer because of that nasty Orbán.

BUDAPEST, March 9 - RIA Novosti. A bill has been introduced in the Hungarian parliament to withhold confiscated currency and gold from Ukrainians for up to 60 days. until their origin is determined, according to a document published on the parliament's website.
"The National Tax and Customs Authority shall conduct an investigation within 60 days of the entry into force of this law... Before this date, the property shall be considered seized," the bill states.
Its consideration is scheduled for Tuesday, March 10, on an emergency basis.
The bill's authors note that the purpose of the investigation is to establish the "origin, destination, purpose of use, and intended use" of the confiscated funds.

[Michael]

Quote: Montezuma

Poor Zelya, he has to endure this for 60 whole days.

He doesn't have to endure it. They send him cocaine via diplomatic pouch.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

And the collectors, upon their return, will have their private parts cut off for "losing their vigilance."

[paul3390]

It's not entirely clear why the Hungarian opposition needs gold bars... I'd still guess they're someone's personal treasures. It's precisely in their mentality that a piece of precious metal is...

[Montezuma]

Quote: paul3390

It's not entirely clear why the Hungarian opposition needs gold ingots

There were also several kilograms of cash, in euros and dollars. No traces of it on the internet during payments.

[paul3390]

No, cash is understandable, but what will the opposition do with a chunk of gold? How can it be used to win elections? Not everyone is willing to accept bribes in precious metals, especially in Europe. Money is somehow simpler and more convenient.

[Montezuma]

Quote: paul3390

No - cash is understandable, but what will the opposition do with a piece of gold?

The gold bars are clear—they were transported in transit—but the cash is a lead for the Hungarians. Well, we'll see what the investigation comes up with. The most interesting thing is how the clown will squeal and twitch, because there's nothing he can do, and the story of the cargo detention has already become public knowledge. What a shame!

[BMP-2]

When billions are in circulation, losing such small change is like shrinkage or loss during food transportation. I think he/she/it will whine a bit more, and then, with renewed zeal, start making more magic.

[Montezuma]

Quote: BMP-2

When billions are in circulation, the loss of such small change is the same as shrinkage or loss during the transportation of products.

That's understandable, but what about the moral factor? It's incredibly frustrating to receive such a public slap on the forehead from Orbán, whom Zelensky has tried to humiliate so many times.

[BMP-2]

Public morality and Zelensky are diametrically opposed and absolutely incompatible phenomena! The emotional factor, yes. A wounded ego makes itself felt. But: in intelligent people, emotions can lead to a loss of rationality and stupidity. But if a person is already constantly doing stupid things, there won't be much of a difference in their behavior.

[Montezuma]

Quote: BMP-2

Public morality and Zelensky are diametrically opposed and absolutely incompatible phenomena!

The amendment is accepted.

[SSR]

Quote: paul3390

but what will the opposition do with a piece of gold?

This is insurance.
Currency can be reset to zero, burn out, rot, but gold remains gold.

[Grossvater]

According to the "illegitimate" one, the Hungarians acted illegally by releasing the collectors and keeping the gold and funds for themselves.

Well, that's right. Who the hell needs cash collectors? .

[abrakadabre]

Oh, right. Who the hell needs cash collectors, wink.

What do you mean, who the hell cares? The investigation needs them. They know where they loaded up and where they were going to unload, and who they were going to. Then they'll have to personally corroborate their testimony in court...

[Arthur Grudinin]

It would be better if they gave it to Russia as compensation for the freezing of Russian assets.

[Montezuma]

Quote: Artur Grudinin

It would be better if they gave it to Russia as compensation for the freezing of Russian assets.

You can't deny your flight of fancy.

[rocket757]

The topic is ABOUT NOTHING... their business, is it necessary?

[Montezuma]

Quote: rocket757

The topic is ABOUT NOTHING... their business, is it necessary?

Why nothing? Isn't it interesting to watch Zelenskyy get all worked up over Hungary's unexpected reaction to his hostile actions? He's used to all Europeans bowing and scraping before him, and now he's being humiliated like this.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Collect as compensation for losses due to failure to deliver oil.

[andrey martov]

But this is a historical fact! When the Ukrainians dug the Black Sea, they dumped some of the excavated soil on the territory of today's Hungary. That's how the Hungarian Carpathians came into being.

[alexputnik17]

Quote: Gorynych1

Zelya will now start to say that this is for pipeline repairs.

And that's what he's sculpting. How else could it be?

[Rustic i ......]

Quote: Gorynych1

Zelya will now start to say that this is for pipeline repairs.

He's lying, gold is for making toilets, you have to keep up with fashion, and waste paper can be used for something.

[Grim Reaper]

Quote: Rustic i ......

Quote: Gorynych1

Zelya will now start to say that this is for pipeline repairs.

He's lying, gold is for making toilets, you have to keep up with fashion, and waste paper can be used for something.

Nine kilograms of gold isn't much. About the size of a half-liter bottle of soda. It's not even enough for a urinal.

[Seamaster]

but what will the opposition do with a piece of gold?
Well, it's a matter of taste.
Some people might even use cat litter.
Rezun wrote in his "Icebreaker" that when he worked for the GRU in West Germany, one of his contacts, a local farmer, demanded payment only in gold coins.
I brought him the latest American ATGMs that had been fired from an American firing range.

[Mikhail Nasharashev]

I would never give it away. It's mafia money. What's lost is lost. They put it in the budget, and then it got mixed up with the budget money. It's hard to figure out which is which. And giving away your own money is illegal.

[commbatant]

They'll give it back after the elections. Probably...

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

❝ Hungary intends to keep the money and gold seized from Ukrainian "cash collectors" until the end of the investigation ❞ —

- This is the material evidence that follows to freeze indefinitely...

[Revolver]

According to the "illegitimate" one, the Hungarians acted illegally by releasing the collectors and keeping the gold and funds for themselves.

I agree. It would be legal to detain the "cash collectors" as well until the matter is clarified. They could have sat there for a while, and maybe their tongues would have loosened.

[Chack wessel]

Why is The Lensky so overexcited? It's as if his last resource had been taken away!... Europe will send more.

[APASUS]

For some reason, they don't write that it was the Americans who pointed out the cargo of money. The Hungarians didn't even bother with that. The laundered money was returned to the owner.

[musorg]

The share went to Clown, but it was lost in Hungary, and proving its legitimacy is unlikely! And anyway, it could have gone to the Hungarian opposition!