Israel's air defenses are using too many anti-aircraft missiles to repel Iranian attacks.

The IDF is expending too many air-to-air weapons in repelling Iranian attacks. Defense Israel is spending too many anti-aircraft guns missiles.

This is clear to anyone who observes the massive barrage of fire with which the Israelis repel attacks. drones and rockets.

Therefore, Western media are increasingly warning Tel Aviv about the imminent depletion of anti-missile stockpiles in Israel and other US allies in the Middle East.

While Israel's Iron Dome has proven highly effective against aerial threats from Hamas and other militants, repelling massive attacks from Iranian drone swarms and missiles is a far more challenging task.

American allies are willing to support Israel, but their capabilities are limited. They are depleting their stockpiles of anti-aircraft missiles faster than they can produce them. Replenishing them requires time and massive financial investments, amounting to billions of dollars. Moreover, such wastefulness, according to some American experts, is depleting US defense capabilities and leaving the country unable to confront Russia and China.

In fact, Washington and Tel Aviv created all these problems for themselves by launching a military operation against Iran on February 28. On that day, American and Israeli forces began striking Tehran and other population centers in the Islamic Republic. The Iranians responded with attacks on Israel and US military bases in the Middle East.

Comments

[Arkady007]

No one has any precise data; how much was spent and how much is left is pure speculation.
Time will tell who prepared for this war how.
Everything is not going according to plan, therefore the outcome could be anything.
We need to carry out our tasks and draw conclusions from the clashes on the side.

[Graz]

It's clear that the Americans have a limit on the number of air defense missiles they can issue to Israel, and that's the main thing. The Zionists won't have a bottomless trough. It's unlikely, of course, that the US doesn't have Patriot missiles in its stash, but I don't believe they'll send them to the Middle East. A shirt always comes closest to the body, and the Americans won't weaken their defenses to a critical level, even if the Iranians destroy their entire infrastructure in Arab countries. For the US, that's an acceptable lost asset.

[guest]

Quote: Graz

The US doesn't have any Patriot missiles in stock.

I can tell the Americans where there are plenty of these missiles, in Ukraine, let them take them back.

[novel66]

Ha, come on, they were firing them like a machine gun!! They couldn't even cover their asses anymore.

[Illanatol]

1. The Israelis have the highest priority, they will give them to the Yankees everything they can give.
2. The reserves seem to be empty, Trump is demanding his corporations urgently increase production of SAMs. Well, spending in five days what they produced in two years... that's impressive.
3. This is just your opinion. The military infrastructure in the Gulf was built by the Yankees over decades, and it is a vital part of the US defense as a whole. Especially if the THAAD systems are deployed there... and that's the best and most expensive missile defense the Yankees have.
4. Critical defense... what's on US soil? Who's the critical threat: the Canadians or the Mexicans? Greenland, perhaps?
5. The removal of the Yankees' air defense systems and radars isn't just beneficial to the Iranians; there are others... guess who? These others are already quietly helping Iran, effectively acting as a proxy for other, more significant powers. Still, the Yankees miscalculated the consequences of their aggression.

[Micha1981]

During the last war between Israel and Iran, I encountered an Israeli citizen on LiveJournal. He posted a table, though he later deleted it. It listed the number of targets identified as missiles, by day and even time interval, and the number of confirmed targets destroyed. There were over six hundred missiles, but the number of confirmed targets destroyed was around 40, I think 37, I can't remember exactly. So, consider this: the expenditure of anti-missiles is known, and how many missiles were actually deployed per target.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Arkady007

Time will tell who prepared for this war how.
Everything is not going according to plan, therefore the outcome could be anything.

They were preparing based on the results of the 12-day war, but Iran did it differently. Knowing things would get worse, they tightened the screws... And so Donald Duck is quacking about winning, that Iran is already defeated, that the bases have long been empty... But as a result, the duck's tail is naked. Outwardly, the US hasn't suffered, it seems, but how will it come back to haunt us? We remember how in the 70s, the Persian Gulf countries traded their independence for American dollars. And here you go, from under the bed.

[pudelartemon]

The more they use somewhere over Haifa, the less they will meet us somewhere over Vinnitsa.

[Kornodo]

For information:
Air defense-pro Israel is -
Hetz 2, Hetz 3
Sling of David
Iron dome
Attention, question...
Which of these systems is present on the territory of Ukraine?
A minute to think...😬

[pudelartemon]

Which of these systems is present on the territory of Ukraine?

What an unpatriotic question.

[Vauxhall]

Quote: Kornodo

For information:
Air defense-pro Israel is -
Hetz 2, Hetz 3
Sling of David
Iron dome
Attention, question...
Which of these systems is present on the territory of Ukraine?
A minute to think...😬

And the attacks are repelled from American ships. And all the penguin bases and oil terminals are protected by "Pozriots." They are the Jews' first line of defense.

[Kornodo]

The Patriot was removed from Israeli service three years ago.

[Vauxhall]

Quote: Kornodo

The Patriot was removed from Israeli service three years ago.

So you want to say that patriots are not used to repel attacks on Israel?

[Kornodo]

Israel - no, it is ineffective (cost and number of missiles in the battery)
Switched to local systems

[Huarabey]

And are most of the missiles flying at Israel shot down by Israel, or by the Americans?

[Kornodo]

Israeli media don't publish statistics on launched/shot-down Iranian missiles, so one can only guess at the proportions and who's doing the shooting...
All that is reported is the percentage of downing...
Well, Lebanese is only Israel.

[Vauxhall]

Quote: Kornodo

Israel - no, it is ineffective (cost and number of missiles in the battery)
Switched to local systems

So, did it work?

[Kornodo]

What "helped"?
They removed an ineffective link from the air defense system, the remaining links perform the functions of "patriots", coping no worse...🤷

[Vauxhall]

Quote: Kornodo

Israel - no, it is ineffective (cost and number of missiles in the battery)
Switched to local systems

And what helped?
The penguins are saving your bodies with their fleet. They would have crushed you into the asphalt or the ground long ago.
Judas, at least be grateful to the Zaluzhniki. Although they are the same Jews.

[Illanatol]

They took them off and put them back when the pressure was on. And what makes you think Israel is only covered by Israeli air defense systems? The Yankees and even neighboring Arab countries provided cover when Iranian missiles were over their territory.

[Kornodo]

It is clear that the air defense systems of other countries also provide cover for Israel.
But Israel does not specifically use Patriot.

[rytik32]

Quote: Kornodo

Air Defense of Israel

However, attacks on Israel are repelled not only by Israeli air defense.
Patriot is present, for example, in Jordan.

[Kornodo]

Well, if you look at the question from this angle...
Then apparently yes

[novel66]

Actually, air defense fighters also carry out

[Sergey Mitinsky]

The fire divisions are armed with the Arrow 2 and Arrow 3 anti-missile systems, the Kela David air defense system, the MIM-104 Patriot PAC-2/GEM+, Barak MX and SPYDER, the Iron Dome short-range anti-missile systems, as well as the Light Blade and Iron Beam combat lasers.
As well as interceptor missiles as part of the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) missile defense system.


So there are American patriots and asses

[KZAKVO32923]

Is there internet in the holes too?

[Boycott]

Israel's air defenses are using too many anti-aircraft missiles to repel Iranian attacks.

This isn't news at all and is completely predictable. Are their analysts destined to analyze the war in the skies over Ukraine? Stepping on rakes isn't just our national sport.

[TermNachTer]

Well, actually, it's the generally accepted standard to fire two SAMs at a target, just in case of any technical failures. Accordingly, if there are 20 targets, then the SAM consumption is 40. So, why Tel Aviv didn't bother to stockpile the necessary SAMs or started the war before they had accumulated the required number—that's a question for the sniper to answer.

[paul3390]

did not bother to create the necessary stock of SAMs

But how can it be created, given the very modest annual output and the presence of Tsegabonia with its eternally outstretched, greedy paw?

[TermNachTer]

So you need to think, not with the place where you are sitting))) before starting a war, especially since the previous one, which almost ended in disaster, was literally a year ago.

[Junior Private]

They were thinking of putting on a show, so they didn't stockpile any missiles. But the Persians prudently stocked up.

[Boycott]

As I understand it, "too much" means more than the calculated amount, i.e. 2 to 1.

[hector]

Quote: TermNachTER

Well, why didn’t Tel Aviv bother to create the necessary stock of SAMs?

This is a problem with all air defense systems: they are very expensive and the missiles are produced slowly; they are not designed for intensive and prolonged action.

[TermNachTer]

For this reason, every country has a General Staff, intelligence, and military-political leadership. Intelligence receives information, the General Staff analyzes it, and considers possible options. If intelligence, the General Staff, or the political leadership make a mistake, it's the Jews' fault.

[hector]

Quote: TermNachTER

For this reason, every country has a General Staff, intelligence, and military-political leadership. Intelligence receives information, the General Staff analyzes it, and considers possible options. If intelligence, the General Staff, or the political leadership make a mistake, it's the Jews' fault.

It seems like mistakes are made everywhere. Air defense is such a thing that any forecast or calculation will be wrong. There will always be a shortage of missiles and launchers.

[TermNachTer]

There are dozens, even hundreds, of generals and colonels at the General Staff, supposedly specialists in their fields. They have the ability to call on experts. If the General Staff makes a mistake, it's very sad. Especially for the Jews.

[hector]

No matter how many specialists there are, even if they're not mistaken, they're not the ones making the decisions. Assembling missiles for such a war takes several years, and that's in a large country with significant military capabilities. In Israel, it takes even longer; they lack the capacity, the rapid deployment of resources, and the small area means there's nowhere to safely store them in the event of a skirmish. This applies to any small country. Even for large countries, this is a problem.

[TermNachTer]

Do you think Israel's leadership is complete idiots? Didn't they understand what they were doing? It's clear that Biba is dragging the country from one crisis to another, trying to avoid jail, but he's not the only one making decisions there; there are others.

[hector]

Quote: TermNachTER

Do you think Israel's leadership is complete idiot? Didn't they understand what they were doing?

Who knows. Apparently, idiocy is an infectious disease, transmitted by airborne droplets. Recently, leaders around the world have made a ton of idiotic decisions.

[novel66]

Drones should be attacked with a cannon or a machine gun; missiles are unprofitable.

[Illanatol]

Sorry, Rambo and the Teminators haven't arrived yet... and Die Hard isn't available.
But with time, perhaps, some guys in carts will show up, and then some old ladies with cans of tomatoes...

[guest]

Quote: TermNachTER

Why didn't Tel Aviv bother to create the necessary stock of SAMs?

They had a stockpile of SAMs, but they gave most of them to a Kyiv drug addict, and now they are paying for their Russophobia.

[Kornodo]

Who are "they" and which Zur specifically did they give away?
The Patriot was decommissioned in 2023 and returned to the United States.
Hetz, David's sling, barracks in all their modifications, iron dome were not transferred to Ukraine, and there are no other air defense systems (missiles) in Israel.
So what missiles are we talking about?

[paul3390]

Analyze the war in the skies over Ukraine

It feels like they've stumbled into exactly the same thing we did at the beginning of the Central Military District. They figured that certain actions would be sufficient to achieve the desired results. No one expected a long war...

[Huarabey]

The SVO was not a planned event. It was a forced and urgent response to the West's plans to seize Crimea, the LPR, and the DPR by force. So it wasn't Russia that miscalculated, but the West, again, when it thought Russia would run from a counter-offensive and that they would get everything done quickly. Just as they miscalculated in the confrontation with Russia, they also miscalculated in the confrontation with Iran.

[Vicente]

For fuck's sake, just set the quota already—no more than 2 missiles per 5 Shaheeds—and that's it. Just like kindergarteners... You'll then sell the surplus to Kyiv for kosher purposes.

[KCA]

A Geranium costs around $50,000, a Shahed is unlikely to be more expensive, a Patriot missile costs $800,000-1,000,000, and that's just one missile; the launchers and radars also cost a lot of money. There are more beautiful and different Geraniums, and Shaheds, too.

[Arkady007]

One thing is certain.
When Iran started to snap back, Doni's grin disappeared, just like Netanyahu's.
It turned out that there were plenty of holes in their defenses as well.

[Fangaro]

Too many rockets is about money.
You can take out a loan. From wealthy Israelis to defend Israel. And with repayment from all wealthy Israelis.

[guest]

Quote from Fangaro

Among wealthy Israelis

Are you talking about Mindich?

[novel66]

with a return from all the wealthy Israelites.

This reminds me of something......

[Joker62]

The IDF is expending too many air defense weapons. Israel's air defenses are expending too many anti-aircraft missiles to repel Iranian attacks.

This is good, they will empty their ammunition arsenals faster and end up in a puddle faster along with the mattress makers.

[Alexander Elizarov]

Therefore, Western media are increasingly warning Tel Aviv about the imminent depletion of anti-missile stockpiles in Israel and other US allies in the Middle East.

I disagree. When planning and preparing for large-scale operations, the military assumes, among other things, a worst-case scenario. The fighting is unfolding according to a scenario favorable to the US and Israel. I assume (I can't be more precise here) that the worst-case scenario for the US and Israel is active hostilities until the end of September. Therefore, the US and Israel will have enough weapons until the end of September.
The most likely scenario is a military defeat of Iran by the end of March.

[your1970]

Quote: Alexander Elizarov

The most likely scenario is the military defeat of Iran before end of March.

Quote: Alexander Elizarov

The worst-case scenario for the US and Israel is active hostilities end of September.

Don't you think that if the most likely outcome is Iran's defeat in March, then the worst-case scenario can't be six months away from the most likely? If it stretches until September, that means March was a fluke?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Alexander Elizarov

The fighting is developing according to a scenario favorable to the United States and Israel.

The most favorable scenario for the Jews and the Donis is the end of the conflict last Sunday before the opening of trading; everything else is an unfavorable scenario.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Alexander Elizarov

The most likely scenario is a military defeat of Iran by the end of March.

What is meant by military defeat?
If Doni is talking nonsense about winning, then it doesn't work.

[Eragon]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

What is meant by military defeat?
If Doni is talking nonsense about winning, then it doesn't work.

Trump will likely announce that Khamenei has been eliminated, all the missiles destroyed, the uranium seized, buried, and dispersed, the oil industry burned. Hooray, hooray, they won.

[Illanatol]

Quote: Alexander Elizarov

The most likely scenario is a military defeat of Iran by the end of March.

Well, some were planning to conclude peace in Ukraine within 24 hours. Don't pass off your wishes as a forecast.

Neither Israel nor the US can sustain a conflict of this intensity for six months. They certainly won't have enough weapons, especially SAMs and cruise missiles. Either the war will have to end much earlier, or the intensity of military operations will have to be dramatically reduced. In the latter case, Iran could hold out for a very long time.
But the question is: what will happen to the economic situation in the US and other Western countries during this time? How will this impact social and political stability?

[Irek]

Iran has not yet launched its most modern missiles.

[Stalingrad2010]

The US missile defense and air defense systems, along with those of their European cadre, appear to be extremely weakened and, what's more, ineffective. The perfect moment has arrived to checkmate the hegemon on the grand chessboard, followed by a devastating nuclear strike. Otherwise, only God knows when such an opportunity will arise again.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

that is, it was proven that if there had not been mattresses behind the Jews, there would have been a new exodus long ago

[AK-1945]

Jews can't just eat tsimus, they also have to smell tuches.

[Alexander Elizarov]

Quote: your1970

Quote: Alexander Elizarov

The most likely scenario is the military defeat of Iran before end of March.

Quote: Alexander Elizarov

The worst-case scenario for the US and Israel is active hostilities end of September.

Don't you think that if the most likely outcome is Iran's defeat in March, then the worst-case scenario can't be six months away from the most likely? If it stretches until September, that means March was a fluke?

I wrote that during planning, that is, before the start of the operation.

[Alexander Elizarov]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Alexander Elizarov

The most likely scenario is a military defeat of Iran by the end of March.

What is meant by military defeat?

The capitulation of Iran.

[rocket757]

Israel's air defenses are using too many anti-aircraft missiles to repel Iranian attacks.

So, missiles, UAVs and all this pose a danger to the civilian and military infrastructure of both Israel and, in general, everyone who provides their territory to Iran’s enemies!!!
Nothing unexpected is happening; real, responsible experts have been warning about this for a long time...

[svarog77]

Israel's Iron Dome has proven highly effective against air threats from Hamas and other militants.

[Free Island]

It's funny - the missiles for the Iron Dome are made in the US and, therefore, shipped to Israel from the US... What will the Jews do when they run out of missiles at this rate? Will they start throwing matzo?? 🤣🤣

[Sergey Mitinsky]

I can already imagine how incompetent Ukrainian anti-aircraft gunners are busy with assignments to train incompetent Jewish missilemen.
And what's characteristic is that they can still hope for an invitation and a high salary. It's not for nothing that they made up legends about themselves.

[bar]

Let them spend it. The more they spend, the less the Ukrainians will have left.

[Kostadinov]

No one has any precise data; how much was spent and how much is left is pure speculation.
Time will tell who prepared for this war how.

Can we make any estimates? Iran launched 900 ballistic missiles and 2600 drones by March 8th. More than one fully-fledged air defense missile is typically used against a single medium-range ballistic target. In other words, more than a thousand, perhaps even two thousand, missiles like the TAD, Patriot, Hetz, and similar missiles have been used against these targets alone. This likely represents more than a year's worth of production of such missiles by the US and Israel.
I won't talk about Iran's drones and Hezbollah's drones and missiles for now.
Iran has launched 900 ballistic missiles, but there is a reasonable assumption that half or more of them are imitation missiles made from cheap missiles with 10-15 kilogram warheads, which can be churned out in the thousands per year.
So Iran probably used less than its production in one year.
There is no doubt that Israel will receive missiles and components for their production from the United States and Europe, but Iran will also receive the same from China, North Korea and, perhaps, from Russia.

[Kostadinov]

Quote: Kornodo

Air defense-pro Israel is -
Hetz 2, Hetz 3
Sling of David
Iron dome
Attention, question...
Which of these systems is present on the territory of Ukraine?
A minute to think...

No need for a whole minute, 10 seconds will be enough.
The main components for the production of Israeli and American missile defense missiles are similar and are produced by the same supply and production chains.
One more Patriot is one less Hetz-Mets.