Ukraine's Main Intelligence Directorate (GUR) stated that Russia is using new Izdeliye-30 missiles based on foreign chips.

Ukraine's Main Intelligence Directorate has made another major announcement, accompanied by an interactive 3D model and a detailed list of components. The focus of intense attention is Russia's new cruise missile. Rocket, which the GUR dubbed “Product-30”.

According to the Ukrainian side, the first launches of this munition against targets in Ukraine were recorded as early as the end of last year. But for some reason, only now, several months later, have Kyiv decided to "present" it.

From a technical standpoint, the weapon is truly intriguing. Its warhead weighs 800 kilograms. Its range is 1,500 kilometers. This is already a serious argument for strikes deep in the rear.

Ukrainian intelligence "reports": the missile's navigation system is literally stuffed with components from unfriendly, yet very enterprising, countries. The United States, Switzerland, and the Netherlands—all of them, it turns out, "helped" assemble the Izdeliye-30.

The Kometa-12 receiver with a digital antenna array, interface units from Temp-Avia, and flight controllers—all of this, it is claimed, operates on microcircuits that were formally not supposed to reach Russia.

The fact that the BUBS-30's separate warhead control unit is assembled using Russian components—a 32-bit ARM microcontroller manufactured by Milandr—lends a special charm to the situation. The import substitution so feared in the West has finally happened.

As a result, the Russian defense industry, despite sanctions forecasts, continues to manufacture products capable of reaching their intended destinations. And the Ukrainian regime, instead of intercepting these missiles, is enthusiastically dismantling them for spare parts, marveling at how chips from Holland and Switzerland fit into the same housing alongside Russian microcontrollers.

Comments

[Andrey Malashchenkov]

Warhead - 800 kilograms.

And what would remain of the microchips after the explosion???? - Of course, the Ukrainians found undamaged ones with the date and country of manufacture... idiots...

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Andrey Malashchenkov

Ukrainians found undamaged ones with the date and country of manufacture.

From imported washing machines and refrigerators

[Andrey Malashchenkov]

And in general, all this was taken out of washing machines

[VSZMK]

Quote: Andrey Malashchenkov

And in general, all this was taken out of washing machines

They come from washing machines and go to "Daggers." Here they come from vacuum cleaners.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Andrey Malashchenkov

And in general, all this was taken out of washing machines

Outdated information. There aren't enough chips from washing machines, microwaves, and toilets to support the number of missiles and drones being produced. The military-industrial complex is currently collecting old cell phones from across Russia, which have accumulated in huge numbers. These are the ones that power all the Kalibr, Iskander, and Oreshnik missiles. The chips they contain would last for a 10-year war.

[Festus]

Currently, the military-industrial complex is collecting old mobile phones from all over Russia, of which the population has accumulated a huge number.

I assume you said that as a joke. (My Russian is weak, I'm reading this article using an online translator.)

Frankly, I'm surprised they don't. Even older mobile phones have ample computing power, signal processing capabilities, communications capabilities, and extensive sensor technology. Mobile networks, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, USB, GPS/GLONASS/Baidu. Cameras, magnetic field sensors, acceleration and rotation sensors...

...Perfect for drone control. The core operating system is open source. There are numerous modifications made by enthusiasts... I don't understand why this resource isn't being used. Okay, you might also need an interference-resistant radio module.

Greetings from Germany!

[Peter1First]

They need military GPS/GLONASS modules there. Civilian geolocation doesn't have the required accuracy and resistance to electronic warfare. The cameras there aren't what's needed either. Field, acceleration, and rotation sensors—they're a far cry from being a fully-fledged INS. Although, as a basis for a Gerbera or similar decoy, it might be suitable!

[al3x]

Something, I suppose, remains. And the fact that some of the microelectronics there are foreign-made isn't surprising either. We don't have full competence in this area, no matter how hard we try. And I don't think any country in the world can boast that everything is 100% produced in domestic factories.

[navigator777]

Probably only China can boast of this.

[al3x]

And in some cases, they steal from the Netherlands or the US. They certainly use the equipment. ASML is number one in the world in this field (Netherlands).

[ANB]

ASML is ranked first in the world in this field (Netherlands).

Yes, sort of, on the only one, if I'm not mistaken.
Russia and China are developing their own lithographs, but no results have been released yet.

[don_Reba]

Quote: ANB

Yes, sort of, on the only one, if I'm not mistaken.

Yes, but not as economical and alternative (DUV lithography)
Canon (Nanoimprit)
Nikon (ArFi immersion lit)
Substrate (X-ray)
Even the Institute of Physics of Microstructures of the Russian Academy of Sciences (on xenon plasma)
and of course
Applied Materials, Lam Research and KLA
Defense-grade applications don't require 5 or 10 nm. 50-70 nm is more than enough. Everything is fine here even without ASML.

[ANB]

For defense purposes, neither 5 nor 10 nm are needed. 50-70 is more than enough.

+ + + + + + + + + + + +
I broke my old phone and foolishly bought a new one. It's the same, but newer and with an even more advanced processor. Made in China.
Now I'm swearing. The old one worked like a charm (and had an IR port, so you could use it as a remote). But the new one freezes regularly. And at the most inopportune moments.

[don_Reba]

😢 Nokia 6310, 2001 model. No need to talk about sad things.
P.S. My 86 year old mother used my former Sony Ericsson P990i, +/- 2007 and didn’t want to know anything else... until some bastards stole it from a minibus.
I can't find a replacement: everything is junk.

[Revolver]

Quote: ANB

China.

World-famous Chinese quality

[ANB]

The previous one was also Chinese and from the same manufacturer.

[Revolver]

Quote: don_Reba

Neither 5 nor 10 nm are needed for defense purposes. 50-70 is more than enough.

And for AI too? Believe it or not, in three to five years, not a single new rocket, except the most primitive and small, will operate without AI.

[ANB]

. except for the most primitive and small ones, will not do without AI.

Take a look at the Granit anti-ship missile system's operating algorithms. So far, nothing better has been invented.

[Revolver]

Well, even a computer using last century technology can be crammed into 10 meters of length and 7 tons of weight. But these algorithms only work in a swarm of missiles and against targets ranging in size from a frigate to an aircraft carrier against a smooth sea. But try cramming that into a single ATGM launched from beyond visual range, trying to figure out where a tank-sized target is against a backdrop of rugged terrain.

[ANB]

. so that she could figure out where there was a tank-sized target against the backdrop of the rugged terrain.

Libraries for recognizing images in video appeared even before the current hype with neural networks and AI.

[don_Reba]

Quote: Nagan

And for AI too?

I'm zero in AI.
DeepEdge10Max 14 nm, 48 TOPS (NPU module in Ryzen 7 8840HS shows only 16 TOPS).
In total, it has a 10-core RISC processor with a clock speed of up to 1,8 GHz, a GPU with a frequency of up to 800 MHz and an Intellifusion NNP400T neural processor.

Quote: Nagan

Believe it or not, in 3-5 years not a single new rocket

I believe it.
In principle, NM and "AI chips": graphics processing units (GPUs), tensor processing units (TPUs), application-specific integrated circuits (ASICs) and neuromorphic chips are weakly correlated.
Example:
IBM TrueNorth=28nm/ neuromorphic "Altai" too
Klepsydra AI on GR740 (65 nm), and is not afraid of frying.
I suppose it is also possible to build “AI-powered missiles” on the BAE Systems RAD750.
There's no RAD750 (or rather, there is, but the yield is limited 👎)

[Irokez]

Quote: ANB

I haven't heard anything about the results yet.

A trial lithograph for 130 nm is already planned for the end of this year. After all, there was a time when 130 nm processors worked just fine, and even single-core ones.

[ANB]

. already intends to do so by the end of this year.

That would be great. It would cover 90 percent of the needs. Maybe more.
And to cut ASML's monopoly.

[Irokez]

Quote: ANB

About 90 percent of needs would be met.

Well, you're probably being a bit overzealous with those percentages. 90 and 65 are already normal, but 28 is almost 100%.

[Revolver]

Quote: navigator777

Probably only China can boast of this.

They need Taiwan largely because TSMC produces chips that China itself won't be able to make for at least another 10 years. And yet, TSMC refuses to sell China as much as they want. And the Chinese can only produce x86 processors at the level Intel and AMD were producing in the early 2000s.

[bondrostov]

There was one such country... the USSR. Now, unfortunately, it's gone 😔

[don_Reba]

Quote: bondrostov

There was one such country... the USSR.

you'll say the same thing

[vladcub]

"created in domestic factories."
It's probably cheaper and faster this way.
I once read "The History of Military-Technical Intelligence. From Ilyich to Ilyich." It tells a curious story: during the Cold War, our torpedo washed up on a California beach. The Americans dismantled it and were stunned: the vision unit was a General Electric. The latest development ended up in our possession! The FBI tried to follow the chain of command to find the "hole" but couldn't. It was too carefully crafted to leave any traces.

[al3x]

Microelectronics is universal. It can perform its function in anything from a washing machine to a rocket ship, so to speak.

[vladcub]

I don’t argue, but they said that no one can say 100% that they did it themselves.

[Montezuma]

Quote: al3x

Something must remain, I suppose. And the fact that some of the microelectronics there are foreign is also not surprising in principle.

True, there is nothing surprising about this, but what is the list of manufacturers:

The USA, Switzerland, the Netherlands – it turns out they all “helped” assemble the “Product 30”.

The Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs should call diplomats from these countries onto the carpet to express their outrage, since Kyiv has announced sanctions against Chinese companies "for assisting the Russian Federation."

[Pivasik]

And stick microchips in the faces of these diplomats

[ANB]

The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry should call diplomats from these countries onto the carpet to express their outrage.

Yes, yes. And sanctions are a must.

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: Andrey Malashchenkov

Warhead - 800 kilograms.

And what would remain of the microchips after the explosion???? - Of course, the Ukrainians found undamaged ones with the date and country of manufacture... idiots...

The missile is equipped with a 12-channel digital satellite navigation antenna, the Kometa-M12, and a Navis NR9 data processing station, according to the Telegram channel "Osveditel." Navis is a family of ship navigation systems that operates with GPS satellites.

A photo of a previously unknown cruise missile fragment and its layout diagram, along with descriptions of some of its components, have been published in Ukraine.
The photo shows the new Russian cruise missile "Izdeliye-30," the Ukrainian Armed Forces stated. It was developed as a cheaper alternative to the Kh-101 strategic air-launched missiles.
... The munition is equipped with a two-circuit turbojet engine "Izdeliye-64R", has an increased warhead weighing 800 kilograms (the Kh-101 has 400 kg), a wingspan of three meters and a flight range of at least 1500 kilometers.

https://rg.ru/2026/03/02/poiavilis-foto-novoj-krylatoj-rakety-rf-izdelie-30-s-sudovoj-navigaciej.html

[Dedok]

And what would remain of the microchips after the explosion???? - Of course, the Ukrainians found undamaged ones with the date and country of manufacture... idiots...

They are sorting out what has fallen, but the reason for it falling is unknown...

[Sky strike fighter]

The enemy publishes photographs of the wreckage of a new Russian cruise missile, which it designates as "Izdeliye-30".

The missile has a wingspan of approximately 3 meters, an increased warhead weighing 800 kg, and a range of at least 1500 km. For navigation, the missile is equipped with a 12-channel, jam-resistant Kometa-M12 CRPA antenna. According to the enemy, the first test launches of the aforementioned missiles were conducted in late 2025.

Informant

https://t.me/infomil_live/27279

[voyaka uh]

"should remain after the explosion???"///
---
Why "after the explosion"?
Sometimes, the missiles fall without exploding.
Accidents. Tomahawks and all sorts.
Then they carefully collect the fragments and study them.

[Altai2026]

During WWII, German submarines used salvage packages made from scraps of newspaper and other waste to convince the enemy they'd sunk. When they really needed to, they'd toss the packages up through the torpedo tubes! Our guys can source components from friendly countries, but substitute unfriendly ones! Then it's clear why manufacturers' names are visible on the remains of microchips!

[batmanxnumx]

You've been reading too much Pikul. You shouldn't take all his statements at face value.

[helilelik]

The refrigerator usually remains intact after the explosion.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

And what would remain of the microchips after the explosion???? - Of course, the Ukrainians found undamaged ones with the date and country of manufacture... idiots...

Apparently, the missile was shot down and the warhead remained intact, as did most of the missile components.

Idiots think our enemy is an idiot, but they're ahead of us in many areas. While our generals are obliterating infantry in assault attacks, they've built effective unmanned forces, and are now integrating small air defense groups into a single system. And they're doing all this with fewer resources. Seeing this, the West is helping them more and more.

[K-50]

The Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine has made another major announcement, accompanied by an interactive 3D model and a detailed list of components. The focus of attention is a new Russian cruise missile, which the Main Intelligence Directorate has dubbed "Izdeliye-30."
According to the Ukrainian side, the first launches of this munition against targets in Ukraine were recorded as early as the end of last year. But for some reason, only now, several months later, have Kyiv decided to "present" it.

There was little debris left, and there was nothing to recreate the image from.
Everything was shattered into pieces, and the pig farmers were mowed down.

[th.kuzmichev]

There's so much talk about washing machine chips. You'd think they make special processors for washing machines. Easy-to-digest instant noodles for the average person. For certain tasks, such chips are perfectly suitable.

[KCA]

I have a Candy, it doesn't have a single chip or any electronics at all, just a good old mechanical relay, and the only electronic part, where would we be without it, is the thermostat.

[drags33]

Well, you're a bit mistaken here... A washing machine and a cruise missile are, to put it mildly, slightly different objects ))))) Without going into details, I'll note that flying objects (especially those with G-forces) require specialized electronics... So the story about washing machines is for housewives...

[th.kuzmichev]

What microcircuit functions are you talking about? A processor, memory, and controller, perhaps? I'm guessing there are quite a few of those in a rocket, including those with the performance of a washing machine. Overloads don't require any special microcircuits. Temperature is another matter, but that's more relevant to hypersonics. But housewives and homeowners don't need to know that. It's enough to distinguish a washing machine from a rocket by its appearance.

[Mouse]

Expect more new stuff.... We won't rust...

[vladcub]

"One and a half thousand kilometers"—what's their Pelican project like? But the Pelican is in the final stages of development, according to their news channels.

[igorbrsv]

In theory, it would be logical to encapsulate the electronics with compound and completely erase the markings on the microcircuits. Nowadays, everything is replaced in blocks. There's no need to replace individual components, as was the case in the last century.

[KCA]

Compound for civilian equipment, for military equipment with all body kits baked in ceramics

[Gomunkul]

The fact that the separate control unit for the BUBS-30 warhead is assembled using Russian components – a 32-bit ARM microcontroller manufactured by Milandr – adds a special charm to the situation.

I wonder if secrecy no longer exists in our country? Or is this not the only time the aforementioned supplier has been promoted in this way in open media?

[KCA]

The F-22 has a hundred or more IBM PowerPCs, and no one is making a secret of this. I would understand if they revealed a foreign manufacturer, for example, NVidia, that they supply processors for our military neural networks themselves, not through intermediaries and double basses.

[Gomunkul]

The article presents information as if it were a single supplier. This raises the question: if an emergency were to occur with this supplier, would it not affect the final outcome?

[123_123]

Normal international cooperation. Russia pays the money and receives the weapons components. That's capitalism, baby.

[al3x]

They're not weapons components. They only become components later, when they're soldered onto a circuit board and installed in a missile; until then, they're a perfectly peaceful product. It really doesn't matter where these chips are installed—in a washing machine, a TV, a computer, or even a missile. All of this has long been dual-use, I think.

[a vacuum cleaner]

What kind of people are these? Ukrainians, they can only snitch,

[South Ukrainian]

The Product 30 is a remarkable missile, if the Kakels are telling the truth, of course. It delivers 800 kg of explosives over a range of 1500 km. It's more interesting than the Iskander.

[rosomaha]

When they say a warhead weighs 800 kg, that doesn't mean it contains 800 kg of explosives. The warhead's weight includes the explosives, the casing, and the fuse. For a high-explosive warhead, the explosives are approximately 40% of the warhead's weight; for a concrete-piercing warhead, the explosives are even less.

[Personal opinion]

I googled the specs. I wasn't impressed. It's a third-world-class missile. It's significantly inferior to the Ukrainian Flamingo in speed, range, and warhead weight. 720, 1500, 800, for comparison: 950, 3000, 1150. What's needed: hypersonic speed with maneuverability, a range of 1500-3000 km, a 1000-1500 kg warhead, plus radar-evading coating, and the ability to be launched from the ground and from aircraft. But the main thing is serial production of at least 200 units per day. When that happens, we can start thinking about victory without nuclear weapons.

[Prisoner]

And what? They probably store more serious things on their chips, things that would "turn the world to dust." But for potheads weighed down by Bandera psychosis, this will do.

[Samoyed]

We once migrated the IIS system at the Ignalina Nuclear Power Plant in Lithuania from Soviet computers to American ones, all the hardware, including performance and memory. It didn't work out, but the Soviet programmers were great. It took about a year, even though the performance was orders of magnitude better and the memory was larger.

[Grancer81]

After all, all over Russia they assemble washing machines, refrigerators, telephones, televisions, and irons in order to take microchips from them...

[Andy_nsk]

Ukrainian intelligence "reports": the missile's navigation system is literally stuffed with components from unfriendly, yet very enterprising, countries. The United States, Switzerland, and the Netherlands—all of them, it turns out, "helped" assemble the Izdeliye-30.

I've been working with electronics for decades and have NEVER seen components from the Netherlands or Switzerland. Apparently, they installed Swiss chronometers there to accurately determine longitude.
Seriously, American components rarely make it to our country; Americans do the development work, and mass production is launched in Southeast Asia. It's more profitable that way.

[Evil_critic]

From the Netherlands – NXP Semiconductors to the rescue! Swiss... I only know tweezers and nippers, but they won't fit into the product.

[solar]

STMicroelectronics. Formally the Netherlands, but actually headquartered in Switzerland.
Toradex AG. Switzerland.

[Andy_nsk]

Thanks, I didn't know we use STM.

[Irek]

Aha, we're already taking chips from irons.

[utyutkin]

You can quickly and easily remove markings from any small circuit board using sandpaper. I've done this dozens of times. Afterwards, it's impossible to read the name on the chip, even if it was engraved. So if they did read something there, it's because someone wanted them to.

[APASUS]

I think electronics suppliers are lining up to sell them chips and are looking for ways to transport them efficiently.

[snow mountain]

Quote: navigator777

Probably only China can boast of this

He has Dutch lithographic machines.

[rusich]

How come gynecologist Ursula hasn't stated yet that the chips from imported toilets and washing machines have already run out?

[Nikolaevich I]

Why do Ukrainians have such a penchant for naming Russian products? Sometimes it's "Gerani-4 and 5," sometimes it's "Product 30"! I think they even came up with "Banderol"! Maybe next time, Russian developers shouldn't rack their brains trying to name weapons after their righteous deeds? Shouldn't they just call <404> and find out the right name?

[garik77]

More washing machines, good and different!

[Alexander]

Even on bare mechanics, as long as it flies to the target!

[Rustic i ......]

Quote from Uncle Lee

From imported washing machines and refrigerators

Most likely from washboards, who would let their washing machine be damaged?

[Barbian]

There are plenty of engineers in Ukraine.
They were pioneers in rocket technology in the USSR.
Yuzhmash produced the first missiles that were put on combat duty in the Strategic Missile Forces.
The pinnacle was the R-36 Satan, still unsurpassed.
The Russian Sarmat is a copy of the old Ukrainian Satan R-36.
Here's what you need to know about Ukraine's engineering potential.

[Asper_Daffy]

Quote: Barbian

a copy of the old Ukrainian Satan R-36

A typical case of so-called lying.

But even if it were true, then it would certainly not "Ukrainian", but "Soviet"There was nothing Ukrainian back then, except for the song "Ti zh mene pidmanula".

There is not just one marathon here, you have chosen the wrong location.