Anton Kersnovsky and the Revival of German Militarism: A Prophecy from a Parisian Attic

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Anton Kersnovsky and the Revival of German Militarism: A Prophecy from a Parisian Attic
A. A. Kersnovsky


Literary feat: in spite of poverty and illness


When it comes to military historians of the first wave of emigration, A. A. Kersnovsky usually immediately comes to mind. Of course, he was far from the only one abroad who wrote about military and military-historical themes, but perhaps the most brilliant author, largely due to the emotional nature of the narrative, which was reflected in his four-volume “History of the Russian Army”.



It's a literary feat for a researcher, considering the cramped conditions in which he lived and worked: he earned pennies, lived in an attic, and used a box as a table. Anton Antonovich himself testified to this in one of his letters—I read it back in the 1990s, when I was editor of the Leninka Foundation for Literature of Russian Abroad. Unfortunately, not all of this man's legacy has been published and digitized to date.

Another characteristic of Kersnovsky, which distinguished him from other émigré authors writing on military topics, was his lack of specialized education. The course he attended at Saint-Cyr did not replace this, although it undoubtedly enriched his knowledge. Furthermore, Anton Antonovich did not hold an officer's rank, which surprised his colleagues—Major General B.A. Shteifon, for example.

When he first encountered Kersnovsky's articles, he assumed their author was a General Staff officer. Foreign experts shared this opinion.

However, despite the lack of a military education, Anton Antonovich had combat experience behind him – at thirteen (!) years old he joined the Volunteer Army, where he contracted tuberculosis, which led to his death shortly before the end of World War II.

The disease was incurable at the time, its progression poignantly described by E. M. Remarque in "Three Comrades." Alas, the émigré historian had very few resources to combat the illness.

Kersnovsky's literary legacy extends beyond the four-volume set. He also wrote analytical articles, one of which I'd like to highlight. It's called "Military Possibilities," published in issue 37 of the Russian All-Military Union (ROVS) journal "Chasovoy" (The Sentinel) in 1930. It addresses Paris's decision to withdraw troops from the Rhineland demilitarized zone five years ahead of the deadline stipulated by the Treaty of Versailles. This decision became the prelude to World War II, as it freed Germany and exposed France's political weakness.

1871: The Birth of Europe's Killer


After World War I, France's strategic goal was to maintain the status quo on the continent established at Versailles. However, the details of the strategy changed between the first and second pre-war decades, partly due to the departures, first from politics and then from life in 1929, of Jean-Baptiste Clemenceau and Marshal François Foch.


J. Clemenceau

The former's political career began during the tragic days of the collapse of the Second Empire. As a slight aside, the fate of its founder, Napoleon III, is reminiscent of that of Nicholas I. Both were, in their own way, outstanding and underappreciated rulers. However, in the historical memory of their compatriots, all their positive deeds have remained in the shadow of Sedan and Sevastopol.

Having witnessed the birth of Germany in the Hall of Mirrors at Versailles, Clemenceau, like no one else, understood its hostility to France, and not just the immediate one, caused by the conflict between Napoleon III and William I over the question of the heir to the Spanish crown.

I believe that both Clemenceau and Foch saw, if you like, Germany's existential hostility to their homeland.


"Proclamation of the German Empire" – painting by A. von Werner

From now on, its shadow hung over France, and indeed over all of Europe, regardless of the form of government established in Berlin – Foch uttered the famous: "This is not peace, this is a truce for twenty years.", when Germany was the democratic Weimar Republic.

The very fact of its birth, a unified Germany, delivered a death sentence to the Europe born in Westphalia in 1648. While there were more than enough wars after that date, the balance of power and interests remained, first between Paris and Vienna, and then, from the late 17th century, London joined them, relegating Amsterdam to the periphery after three Anglo-Dutch wars. Even earlier, after the defeat of the once invincible tercios at Rocroi, Madrid had been removed from the ranks of great powers.

In the 18th century, St. Petersburg took the place of Stockholm, which the Bourbons were trying to squeeze into the fold. To be fair, the Swedes, despite the talents of Gustav II Adolf, were not considered equal players in the concert of European political leaders. Frederick II, however, managed to secure a place for Berlin, but until the emergence of two geniuses—Otto von Bismarck and Field Marshal Henri von Moltke the Elder—Prussia was not among the leading players on the European chessboard.

The sudden appearance of the German Empire on the map – no one expected the relatively quick victories of the Prussians over the Austrians and the French – was, in my opinion, akin to the start of a game of “third wheel”.

The Second Reich was disrupting the already fragile balance on the continent and was a superfluous state, whose aggressive policy was determined by three factors: geography, demography, and economics.

Plus, the extensive network of railways covering Europe, and especially Germany, made it possible to mobilize and transfer troops to the border much faster than before, reducing the time lag for a diplomatic settlement of the conflict.

However, it is precisely because of the specific nature of their geography that the Germans are inevitably doomed to defeat in any long-term confrontation with their neighbors – neither Great Britain and France, despite their historically conflictual relations with each other, nor Poland and Russia, despite their mutual hostility, will ever accept a strong and united Germany in the center of Europe.

This isn't a matter of immediate, opportunistic circumstances, of course, but rather a long-term one. These countries will always exert combined pressure on Germany if it proves too strong, and then they'll return to their usual squabbles.

It was not without reason that the first NATO Secretary General, Lord G. Ismay, said that the alliance was needed to keep Germany within Europe.

In short, geography inevitably both provokes aggression on the part of Germany and determines its defeat, for the Germans can win battles and even wars, as they demonstrated in the last century, but never long-term conflicts.

Sooner or later, the Eurasian East and the Anglo-Saxon West will crush Germany when it tries to gain living space, on the one hand, in the region up to the Urals, on the other, in the Atlantic, by redistributing spheres of influence in regions rich in raw materials and on ocean and sea communications.

The latter was well understood by outstanding German minds, for example, by Bismarck with his "nightmare of coalitions"—a phrase addressed to his friend Count P. A. Shuvalov at the Congress of Berlin, where the "Iron Chancellor," contrary to the textbook assertion, actually played the role of an honest broker. And what does the "nightmare of coalitions" mean to Germans—the far-sighted ones, by that I mean? The specter of a war on two fronts doomed to defeat.

Contrary to the natural line of borders


Now, in the context of the above, let's return to the article. Already in its opening lines, ten years before June 22, 1940, we can hear Kersnovsky's verdict on the Third Republic:

The date June 30, 1930, is significant. On this day, the last French soldier left the banks of the Rhine, five years before the deadline set at Versailles… The Treaty of Versailles ceased to exist.

In 1918, Paris conceived of the Rhineland as the cornerstone of the country's security. However, French politicians had envisaged it as such long before the 20th century. Even Louis XIV and A. Richelieu considered the left bank of the Rhine a natural border for the kingdom.


French soldiers on the banks of the Rhine, 1923

After the First World War, the Rhineland represented the foundation not only of France's military security, but also of its economic prosperity:

According to historians A. A. Vershinin and N. N. Naumova, Paris gained control of the resources of the entire Lorraine industrial region, one of the main centers of European ferrous metallurgy, producing 10 million tons of steel annually. Before the war, more than half of this volume was produced by German firms. By depriving its enemy of these resources, France would seriously weaken its military-industrial potential and proportionately increase its own. If another goal outlined by its leaders—the annexation of Luxembourg—were achieved, the country would become one of the world's largest steel producers, virtually eliminating the fourfold gap with Germany in this crucial indicator and becoming on par with Great Britain.

A glance at the map is enough to confirm that the key to Alsace-Lorraine lay on the left bank of the Rhine. Here, it's important to consider the following: even despite defeat in World War I, German industry was not seriously damaged and continued to outperform France.

Plus, the Weimar Republic stood ahead of France in demographic indicators: 75 million versus 40 million. And this was against the backdrop of a declining birth rate in the latter country since the 19th century.

In Germany, things were different. According to data cited by A. A. Vershinin and N. N. Naumov:

The birth rate in 1913 was 3,52 children per woman, which made it possible to offset the consequences of the 2 million people killed during the war in the foreseeable future. The demographic and industrial balances were clearly not in Paris's favor.

By and large, France, if we think in terms of geopolitics, felt the need not to control the Rhineland, but to annex this territory, limiting it in the west by the Moselle, in the northeast by Mainz, in the east by the western bank of the Rhine.

Foch wrote about this conceptually:

If we hold the Rhine, France can remain calm. She will have both security and reparations. If she doesn't hold it, she will have neither. Everything they offer her, everything they give her in return, is just an illusion, a semblance, a void.

The Chief of the French General Staff in 1920-1923, General E. Bua, reasoned along the same lines, noting in his diary on April 15, 1919:

If we don't want to fight on our own territory again, we need not only a shield on the left bank of the Rhine, but also absolutely reliable agreements with Belgium on one side and Switzerland on the other. The further into enemy territory we can shift the theater of war, the less we'll have to fortify our own border.

Versailles: Britain versus France


Why didn't France, contrary to the logic of its geopolitical interests, annex the Rhineland? Great Britain, still adhering to its traditional policy of maintaining a balance of power in Europe, opposed it. However, Germany was a priori violating this balance.

Nevertheless, the British apparently found the bridle placed on the Germans at Versailles to be strong enough and considered it necessary to preserve Germany as a restraining factor on the path of French domination on the continent, just as they viewed the Weimar Republic as a counterweight to Soviet Russia.

Perhaps France should have gone all-out, not so much in terms of limiting Germany's armaments and reducing its army, but rather in annexing the Rhineland. The future of the Third Republic urgently demanded this: Paris was about 400 km from the German border. The motorization of the army and the role of the Germans, already evident at the end of World War I, aviation In the future war they would reduce this distance even further, which was demonstrated in May – June 1940.

And this is despite the fact that, according to the data provided by A. A. Vershinin and N. N. Naumova:

The area between the Seine basin and the eastern borders of the country contained three-quarters of its coal mining and textile production, 90% of its steel industry and iron ore mining capacity, 70% of its oil refining and ammonium sulfate production.


At one of the French aircraft factories, the photo is probably from 1940.

Consequently, had France lost this region, it would have been unable to sustain a war of attrition, despite its vast colonies. From a military perspective, missing the unique opportunity to annex the Rhineland in 1918 would have left Paris forever exposed to the threat of a German attack.

Another question: did France have reason to fear Germany in 1930? Kersnovsky's answer is unambiguous:

One would have to be more than naive to think that Germany is capable, solely by its own “good will,” of putting up with what the latest German schoolchild calls nothing less than “the hated Versailles dictation.”

To understand the value of these lines, one must set aside post-knowledge and understand that in 1930, not all experts and politicians shared the Russian émigré's views. Many saw the Weimar Republic as a fully democratic state, and revanchist sentiments within it were seen as the preserve of marginalized individuals.

In fact, why does Kersnovsky put "goodwill" in quotation marks in his reflections? Because he quotes the French representative on the Rhine: the fate of the demilitarized zone lies in the embrace of German goodwill.

This statement was in keeping with the prevailing French foreign policy at the time. Its executor was A. Briand, who headed both the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the government. It was on his initiative that the Locarno Treaties of 1925 were concluded.


The Locarno Treaties, pictured are three Nobel laureates, from right to left: A. Briand, N. Chamberlain and Chancellor of the Weimar Republic G. Strassemann

Thanks to them, Germany ceased to be a pariah state in Europe, was accepted into the League of Nations, and France, Germany, and Great Britain agreed to resolve emerging conflicts on the continent through dialogue. French troops withdrew from the Rhineland, and Briand received the Nobel Peace Prize, which he believed he had secured for both his country and Europe.

The Nobel Prize and the inexorable logic of things


Kersnovsky, however, viewed what happened from a different angle:

The events of recent months (we are talking about the withdrawal of French troops from the Rhineland – I.Kh.) only confirm the inexorable logic of things – a new European conflict is brewing.

I believe that if Briand, who a couple of years earlier had also concluded a pact with US Secretary of State F. Kellogg, had read these lines, he would have simply shrugged his shoulders in bewilderment: what kind of conflict, when war is essentially illegal?

The Germans, for their part, were on the way to ending their democratic games, having re-legalized the previously banned SA stormtroopers in 1925 and gained the opportunity to begin rebuilding their armed forces, which had begun before the Nazis came to power.

And why not start, if already in 1927, despite Foch's protests, the French effectively ceased overseeing the disarmament of the Reichswehr – the Inter-Allied Military Control Commission left Germany. Goodwill…

In his article, Kersnovsky wrote, discussing the inevitability, in his opinion, of a war between Germany and France, that the Germans

The officer and non-commissioned officer cadre of the old army will be utilized. As of January 1, 1931, there are still 84,000 officers registered who attended the Kaiser's Army School, fought in the war between 1914 and 1918, and are still fit for active duty (under 55 years of age). They are organized into powerful officer unions, maintain the closest ties with the army, and continually refresh their tactical knowledge.


Marshal F. Foch

Of course, even the most far-sighted French understood this. In 1926, Foch sent the government a note with the following content:

There can be no talk of abandoning the banks of the Rhine before the fifteen-year deadline set by the Treaty of Versailles expires; it is essential to immediately bring the French armed forces into a state of readiness to ensure their defense; without this guarantee, everything—security, foreign policy positions, reparations—will be lost once the Rhine line is abandoned.

In the shadow of German militarism


Yes, in the context of the events that soon followed in Germany, these lines seem self-evident. But such a scenario—the militarization of Germany and the Nazis' rise to power in 1930—was not envisioned by Briand, nor by another Nobel laureate, James Chamberlain, who signed the Locarno Treaties on behalf of Great Britain, nor by Kellogg.


German troops occupy the Rhineland, 1936

In fact, the mine had been planted earlier, as Kersnovsky wrote:

The Allies at Versailles had no idea what a colossal mistake they were making by imposing on Germany an army of professionals—that is, a 20th-century army that had replaced the "hordes"—the legacy of the 19th century. "The Allies imposed on Germany an army best prepared for the conditions of a future war," General von Seeckt observed ironically.

The following lines by Anton Antonovich from 1930 seem prescient – ​​although they are based on a competent analysis:

As for German military doctrine and the tactics of the mobilized Reichswehr, it was entirely based on rapid concentration and the broadest possible use of the element of surprise. Particular attention was paid to aviation (which could not be said of the French at that time – I.Kh.). Aviation was supposed to compensate for the weakness artillery and attack first.

Regarding aviation, our compatriot draws readers' attention to an important detail:

The German so-called "commercial" aviation is the first in the world and bringing it to a state of war is a matter of hours.

But, I repeat, not everyone noticed all this. Control over the Rhineland demilitarized zone not only ensured France's economic prosperity and served to realize the dream of the brilliant Richelieu, but was also akin to a sword raised over Germany's neck.


The logical conclusion of the Locarno Treaties

Alas, when Briand initiated the signing of the Locarno Treaties, he failed to discern from his apartments in the Palais Bourbon what the Russian émigré saw from his Parisian attic: the reincarnation of German militarism.

References
Kersnovsky A. A. Military capabilities // Sentinel. No. 37. Paris 1930
Vershinin A. A., Naumova N. N. From Triumph to Disaster: The Military-Political Defeat of France in 1940 and Its Origins. St. Petersburg "Aletheia", 2022
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  1. +3
    3 March 2026 05: 56
    Hmm... This is a rare analysis... I wonder why it wasn't accepted in France, okay from Kersnovsky, but from Foch?!
    1. +1
      3 March 2026 08: 26
      The French did everything they could, given their real capabilities. They built the Maginot Line, created the Little Entente... but what didn't work wasn't just the fault and miscalculations of the French. Much can be asked of the British, the Poles, and others... including the Yankees.
  2. +1
    3 March 2026 06: 36
    Quote: Foggy Dew
    I wonder why it wasn’t accepted in France, okay from Kersnovsky, but from Foch?!
    Because Germany was lying on its side, its army consisted of only 100,000 men and was poorly armed, without air power or armored vehicles. Who was it dangerous to?
    1. +3
      3 March 2026 07: 19
      Quote: Xenon
      Because Germany was lying on its side, its army consisted of only 100,000 men and was poorly armed, without air power or armored vehicles. Who was it dangerous to?


      As subsequent history showed, it certainly could have been. The Germans, with their small army, managed to get away with it. In the Reichswehr, every sergeant major was trained to be a lieutenant, and lieutenants knew how to command battalions. The Germans were forbidden to have tanks. But in Zossen's motor company, they trained on tractors, for a tractor is akin to a tank. Meanwhile, designers were already secretly working on designs for engine shapes. Finally, Hitler came along, denounced the shameful Versailles articles, and German soldiers immediately found themselves clad in Krupp armor…
      1. +3
        3 March 2026 08: 52
        Quote from kromer
        In the Reichswehr, every sergeant major was trained to become a lieutenant, and lieutenants knew how to command battalions.

        Exactly! And the initiative was welcomed.
        In the French army, the lower ranks (whether sergeants or junior officers) couldn't sneeze without an order from above... in addition, France was traumatized by the losses of the First World War and the soldiers had no desire to fight en masse
      2. +1
        3 March 2026 10: 53
        As further history showed, it could very well be
        You're simply reasoning with hindsight. But put yourself in the shoes of a French politician or military officer who sees that the Reichswehr isn't even an army, but rather a gendarmerie for suppressing internal rebellions, and that the military industry is nonexistent. And then there's the Maginot Line, on which so much hope was pinned. In short, Germany was like dirt under their feet for them.
        1. +1
          3 March 2026 14: 54
          Quote: Xenon
          You are simply reasoning with hindsight.


          You simply missed the point that I was talking about Germany, not what it was for France.
  3. +3
    3 March 2026 08: 34
    Versailles had another, completely invisible, yet very important, side. By squeezing Germany, stripping it bare, the Allies effectively assumed responsibility for the inviolability of its borders. As a result, the Reichswehr, freed from the burden of guarding the borders from bandits of all stripes, was transformed into one gigantic military academy, training hundreds of thousands of highly qualified commanders for the future Wehrmacht. And the high command, freed from the burden of supplying outposts and garrisons lost in the mountains and taiga, could afford to philosophize on abstract topics.
    It must be acknowledged that the German command used the opportunities provided to 200%.
    1. 0
      3 March 2026 08: 54
      Quote: Grossvater
      lost in the mountains and taiga outposts and garrisons


      hi
      Is there taiga in Germany? laughing
      1. +1
        3 March 2026 12: 21
        No! They're unfortunate people! But there are forests and mountains along the borders with Italy, France, and Poland, and no bandits, at least not in commercial quantities, have ever touched them.
    2. +2
      3 March 2026 09: 03
      Quote: Grossvater
      And the high command too


      Here's the key point. Germany was forbidden to have a General Staff. But they managed to get away with it, too. The General Staff operated under the guise of "Troop Command." The Germans not only retained the valuable personnel of the General Staff, but also, by renewing them, increased their numbers.
      1. +2
        3 March 2026 10: 56
        Quote from kromer
        The General Staff operated under the name "Military Directorate"
        It also operated under the guise of commercial firms, where officers and generals in civilian clothes went under the guise of clerks.
        1. +1
          3 March 2026 12: 55
          Quote: Xenon
          It also operated under the guise of commercial firms, where officers and generals in civilian clothes went under the guise of clerks.


          They tried various ways to get around it. The Topographical Directorate actually operated under the guise of a civilian organization. You're probably talking about that.
  4. +2
    3 March 2026 09: 16
    Anton Kersnovsky's "History of the Russian Army" is my best addition to the military section. I've never encountered a better book in terms of writing, language, and presentation.
    There was a period in my life when I taught life safety to seniors at school... I'd secretly take a few hours off the curriculum and teach Army History by Kersnovsky. And even the students wrote papers... 😊
    1. +1
      3 March 2026 09: 31
      Quote from Songwolf
      "History of the Russian Army" by Anton Kersnovsky is my best acquisition for the military section.

      A. Kersnovsky is the best historian of the First World War; one can recall his "Philosophy of War"
      By the way, Kersnovsky called the famous renaming of St. Petersburg to Petrograd the crowning stupidity of our so-called educated circles - Peter named the city in honor of the apostle, and these educated, but not very smart people renamed the city of St. Peter to the city of Peter I.
      1. +1
        3 March 2026 10: 55
        I agree. I have a very advanced monograph by General Zayonchovsky, "The First World War," but for all its merits, the language is a bit dry compared to Kersnovsky's.
    2. 0
      3 March 2026 12: 43
      Downloaded. Thanks for the advice. I'll read it, especially since I have a long weekend ahead.
      1. +2
        3 March 2026 18: 26
        I started reading it without waiting for the weekend. What a wonderful style! It's not often you come across such talent. Every word just sinks into your mind.
        Dear colleagues, dear author of this article, thank you for opening this up!
  5. -3
    3 March 2026 10: 35
    And, the separation of Ukraine from Russia during the collapse of the Soviet Union and the consequences of this, no one in the Kremlin saw.
  6. +3
    3 March 2026 12: 26
    Quote: maltus
    And, the separation of Ukraine from Russia during the collapse of the Soviet Union and the consequences of this, no one in the Kremlin saw.

    How does your comment relate to the topic under discussion? Just for reference: "nobody" in this context is written as one word, and "Kremlin" is capitalized.
  7. 0
    3 March 2026 13: 08
    Quote: Xenon
    And then there was the Maginot Line, on which great hopes were pinned. In short, Germany was like dirt under their feet...


    In the French military plans, Germany has been the main enemy since 1927.
    The Maginot Line (in fact, it should have been called the Belhaga Line) was originally conceived and featured in all plans solely as a means of covering the border (and the border industrial regions) until the deployment of a field army. And in the spring of 1940, the troop density behind it was the same as that of the "mobile wing" on the Belgian border.
  8. 0
    3 March 2026 13: 09
    But such a scenario – the militarization of Germany and the Nazis’ rise to power in 1930 – was not seen as such by Briand, nor by another Nobel laureate, D. Chamberlain, who signed the Locarno Treaties on behalf of Great Britain, nor by Kellogg.

    During the interwar period, "frontline soldier unions" and similar organizations were popular in Germany. The level of militarism in German society was off the charts; Hitler didn't come to power out of nowhere. Didn't they see all this? Or didn't they want to see it?
  9. +3
    3 March 2026 13: 16
    It is a literary feat of the researcher, considering the cramped conditions in which he had to live and work: he earned pennies, lived in the attic, and a box served as his table.
    He worked odd jobs to be able to work in archives and libraries, which took a lot of time, as did writing.

    Lack of specialized education. The course I took at Saint-Cyr didn't replace it, although it certainly enriched my knowledge.

    After the front and evacuation from Crimea, he graduated from the Consular Academy in Vienna.

    He did not have an officer's rank, but he had front-line experience and injuries.
    He was, undoubtedly, a very talented man, who left behind a great literary legacy on the history of the Russian army, a patriot of Russia.

    It must be emphasized that Anton Antonovich fought against the Nazis at the front in the ranks of the French Army in 1940 and was seriously wounded there, which, coupled with tuberculosis, killed him.

    No less talented was his sister Efrosinya Antonovna, who left behind a magnificent work "How much is a person worth?"- the true story of collectivization, reunification, and the lives of people and the country. This book is a portrait of the USSR.

    Let me note, slightly deviating, that the fate of its creator Napoleon III is reminiscent of Nicholas I

    I disagree - Nikolai was not captured and did not even lose the war - he did not intend to end it.

    now its shadow hangs over France, and indeed over all of Europe, regardless of the form of government established in Berlin

    That is why everyone tried to dismember a united Germany after WWII, and only Stalin preserved it, without having learned the lessons of two WWIIs and 1871.

    Rhineland
    This area was populated mainly by Germans who fought the French occupiers with strikes and terrorist attacks.

    France alone had a hard time holding her back - she was simply afraid of Germany, and England withdrew
    1. +1
      3 March 2026 14: 41
      Quote: Olgovich
      and only Stalin preserved it, without having learned the lessons of two World Wars and 1871 г


      What lesson did 1871 teach Russia? If my memory serves me right, Russia itself ensured that Prussia defeated Austria and France. It was Russia that enabled Bismarck to forge the German Empire. It was Russia that, at every move by Austria, immediately deployed an army to the Austrian border to keep it at bay. Thanks to this, Russia denounced the shameful Treaty of Paris, concocted as a result of the Crimean War. Russia pursued its own goals in 1871, and it achieved them.
      1. +3
        3 March 2026 15: 12
        Quote from kromer
        What lesson did 1871 teach Russia?

        Stalin learned a lesson: you can't create a unified Germany.
        Quote from kromer
        If my memory serves me right, Russia itself did everything to ensure that Prussia defeated Austria and France.

        she didn't do anything
        Quote from kromer
        It was Russia that made it possible for Bismarck to create the German Empire.

        We will do nothing - and that was a mistake, we should have supported France.
        Quote from kromer
        Thanks to this, Russia denounced the shameful Treaty of Paris, concocted as a result of the Crimean War.

        lol What's a treaty worth if it's not backed by FORCE? It's not even worth a single piece of paper, and France, even without Germany, no longer had any presence in the Black Sea region. Unlike Russia.

        Thanks to the author for the excellent article and for reminding me of the wonderful Russian historian A.A. Kersnovsky.
        1. 0
          3 March 2026 19: 16
          Quote: Olgovich
          It was necessary to support France.


          Of course, France should have been supported... after all, it participated so charmingly in the Crimean War...
          1. +1
            4 March 2026 09: 38
            Quote from kromer
            Quote: Olgovich
            It was necessary to support France.


            Of course, France should have been supported... after all, it participated so charmingly in the Crimean War...

            I understand your point perfectly, but in politics, especially foreign policy, emotions shouldn't prevail over pragmatism. A united Germany, with its powerful industry, dynamically growing population, and shared border with Russia, was far more dangerous to us than France.
            But let's be honest – foresight isn't our strongest suit, whether under the Tsars or the Soviets.
            1. VlK
              +1
              4 March 2026 11: 14
              But let's be honest – foresight isn't our strongest suit, whether under the Tsars or the Soviets.

              In unstable conditions, situational gains often prevail over strategically advantageous decisions—but what can you do when the immediate problems need to be addressed first? In any case, leaders base their decisions on the balance of power at the time of decision-making; any special foresight is unlikely to be involved; it shouldn't be confused with hindsight.
            2. +1
              4 March 2026 12: 56
              Quote: Trapper7
              But in politics, especially in foreign policy, emotions should not prevail over pragmatism.


              Tell me, do you consider Chancellor Gorchakov a politically savvy person? It was he who decided that. No, he was against an alliance with Germany and for an alliance with France. But at that moment, Russia benefited from the situation. Russia benefited from the defeat of France. It was he who coached Bismarck in politics. It was his decision that kept Austria from making a move, because the Russian army immediately deployed on the Austrian border. Note that no one accused Chancellor Gorchakov of an anti-Russian policy. No one, ever. They forgot him, or at the very least, underestimated him. In general, it's rare to read anything about him. I apologize in advance for the incoherence of my speech, but I also work. But I got the point across, albeit in general terms. And what emotions did Chancellor Gorchakov have? It's enough to recall how many years passed between the Crimean War and the denunciation of the Treaty of Paris.
              1. +1
                4 March 2026 13: 02
                Quote from kromer
                Do you consider Chancellor Gorchakov a politically literate person?

                Overall, he was certainly a seasoned politician. But his role at the Berlin Congress left a number of questions unanswered...
                But at that moment, it was Russia that benefited from that situation.

                That's why I wrote that I understand your opinion. And, moreover, I share it. In that situation, Prussia's victory was like anointing the wound of the Crimean War.
                I apologize in advance for the disjointedness of my speech, but I'm also working at the same time. I got the point across, albeit in general terms.

                Me too. You get the idea. Good luck with your work. drinks
                1. +1
                  4 March 2026 13: 07
                  Quote: Trapper7
                  In that situation, Prussia's victory was like oil on the Crimean wound.


                  This isn't a joke. It's a pragmatic step toward breaking the Treaty of Paris.
                  Thank you, you too. drinks
                2. +1
                  4 March 2026 13: 18
                  Quote: Trapper7
                  But his role at the Berlin Congress left a number of questions...


                  He realized it himself. Old age is no joy. That's why he asked the Emperor for his resignation. And he got it. It was granted immediately, but in fact, he retired immediately after the Congress of Berlin.
                3. +2
                  4 March 2026 18: 00
                  Quote: Trapper7
                  In general, of course, he was a seasoned politician.


                  I dug deep into F.I. Tyutchev's works and couldn't find his poem specifically about the denunciation of the Treaty of Paris addressed to Chancellor Gorchakov. And finally, I found it:

                  "Yes, you kept your word:
                  Without moving a gun, not a ruble.
                  Enters the rights again
                  Native Russian land.
                  And we bequeathed to the sea
                  Again free wave
                  On a brief forgetting shame,
                  Kissing his native shore." (c)
          2. +1
            4 March 2026 13: 24
            Quote from kromer
            Of course, France should have been supported... after all, it took part in the Crimean War so nicely.

            That's right, Crimea has long since sunk into oblivion, and Russia's support for the French led to the same cancellation of the Paris Treaty, while maintaining a disunited Germany-Russia - only advantages.

            France, by the way, approached us, but alas...
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              4 March 2026 13: 33
              Quote: Olgovich
              and Russia's support for the French led to the same cancellation of the Paris Treaty


              Defeated France. Before this, Napoleon III had a different opinion.

              Quote: Olgovich
              France, by the way, approached us, but alas...


              Again. France turned to us on the brink of defeat. And before that, it looked down on us.
              1. +1
                4 March 2026 13: 53
                Quote from kromer
                Defeated France.

                For support of the non-defeatist France would have renounced the treaty
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                  4 March 2026 14: 06
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  For support of the non-defeatist France would have renounced the treaty


                  But France didn't need the support of a defeated Russia. Before the war with Prussia, Napoleon III was eager to annex Belgium. And other territories. France was proud of its victory in the Crimean War. What did he need Russia for? Russia was even denied its embassy in Paris. No, Poniatowski made diplomatic overtures to specific Russian politicians, but there was nothing real behind them. And only when Prussia's victory over France was clearly established, when the French army was routed, did they suddenly remember Russia. They needed our Gorchakov to pressure Bismarck to stop the Prussian troops. That's all. They didn't need an alliance with Russia even then. Because France, as one of the victorious countries in the Crimean War, disdained a defeated Russia.
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                    4 March 2026 14: 13
                    Quote from kromer
                    And France did not need the support of defeated Russia.

                    But Russia was not defeated - France was powerless in the Black Sea by 1871.
                    Quote from kromer
                    And only then, when Prussia's victory over France

                    wonderful moment!
                    Quote from kromer
                    France, as one of the victorious countries in the Crimean War

                    в than The victory of France was expressed in money, territory, people? belay A - nothing...
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                      4 March 2026 14: 22
                      Quote: Olgovich
                      And Russia was not defeated


                      Then why did they sign the Treaty of Paris? For fun or something?

                      Quote: Olgovich
                      How did France's victory manifest itself - money, territory, people?


                      Political victory. Sometimes it's more important than territory.
                      1. +1
                        4 March 2026 14: 29
                        Quote from kromer
                        Then why did they sign the Treaty of Paris? For fun or something?

                        to be thrown out by 1871
                        Quote from kromer
                        Political victory. Sometimes it's more important than territory.

                        examples of the importance of "pores?
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                        4 March 2026 14: 44
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        to be thrown out by 1871


                        Was he simply thrown out for no apparent reason? Or was a titanic effort undertaken to denounce him?

                        Quote: Olgovich
                        examples of the importance of "pores?


                        Political influence, Andrey. Sometimes it's more important. An example? Look at the US now. They won the war against every other country, so who are they raping now? I haven't heard about the American-British war. Or the American-French one either. There are plenty of countries like that.

                        P.S.: It was France that first spoke about banning the revival of the Black Sea Fleet, and other countries supported it. This was during the negotiation of the articles of the Treaty of Paris.
                      3. +1
                        4 March 2026 18: 25
                        Quote from kromer
                        Was he simply thrown out for no apparent reason? Or was a titanic effort undertaken to denounce him?

                        That's right - they threw him out. And what will happen for that? Oh, nothing - who will put together a coalition again?
                        Quote from kromer
                        I haven't heard anything about the American-British war.

                        there was more than one - 1775, 1812
                        Quote from kromer
                        It was France that was the first to talk about banning the revival of the Black Sea Fleet,

                        Austria
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                        4 March 2026 19: 24
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        What will happen for this? Oh, nothing—who will assemble a coalition again?


                        And who exactly were they supposed to recruit? The main forces in the coalition were the French.
                        France is defeated. The bulk of Russian troops during the Crimean War had to be kept on the western border with Austria. So Austria is also defeated. Britain is lost in diplomatic games. Italy? Don't be ridiculous.

                        Quote: Olgovich
                        there was more than one - 1775, 1812


                        I'm telling you about the second half of the 19th century.
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                      Yesterday, 12: 35
                      в чем выразилась победа франции-деньги, территории, люди ? belay А -ничего..

                      А влияние в Сирии на христиан? Думаете, почему после первой мировой войне Сирия стала протекторатом Франции?
                      Да и войны иногда ведутся для ослабления противника, а не только ради каких-то приобретений. Я молчу про "маленькую победоносную войну"...
                      Ещё скажите, что США ничего не выигрывает от поражения России в СВО, как ничего не выиграла от майдана на Украине. Или от поражения Ирана ничего не выиграет.
    2. VlK
      +1
      4 March 2026 11: 08
      That is why everyone tried to dismember a united Germany after WWII, and only Stalin preserved it, without having learned the lessons of two WWIIs and 1871.

      So he divided it, creating the socialist GDR in the Soviet occupation zone, didn't he?
      1. +1
        4 March 2026 13: 17
        Quote: VlK
        So he divided it, creating the socialist GDR in the Soviet occupation zone, didn't he?

        No, the West had already created the FRG, and he was still fighting for a united Germany, only later, he was forced to create the GDR.
        1. -1
          12 March 2026 16: 42
          Вам - антисоветчикам не угодить. То Сталин - тиран, создал марионеточные государства социалистического лагеря, то боролся за единую Германию. Ещё скажите, что хотел и советскую зону оккупацию отдать, чтобы там кап. режим был, лишь бы Германия была единой.
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            Yesterday, 14: 02
            Quote: Wened75
            Вам - антисоветчикам не угодить.

            вам, засоветчикам и а божья роса: венграм и пр прощены репарации и более того, отобранным у русских хлебом их кормили. А свои умерли.
            Quote: Wened75
            Ещё скажите, что хотел и советскую зону оккупацию отдать, чтобы там кап. режим был, лишь бы Германия была единой.

            именно так-Австрия в пример, it was.
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      12 March 2026 16: 37
      г
      That is why everyone tried to dismember a united Germany after WWII, and only Stalin preserved it, without having learned the lessons of two WWIIs and 1871.

      Если Сталин сохранил единую Германию, то как получились два государства: ФРГ и ГДР?
      Лишь бы пнуть?
      Ваши антисоветчики и позволили объединить Германию и развалить СССР...