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Galicia. The genocide of the Russian people

Torn back in the XIII century from the rest of the Russian principalities, the territory of the former Galician Rus was one of the first to fall under the power of the Commonwealth. Accordingly, the Polish influence on the Galicians was much stronger than on the rest of Little Russia. In the end, Russians, by origin and language, were gradually inculcated with a religion and mentality alien to them. A similar transformation was undergone by the Croats and Bosnian Muslims. In fact, a deliberate removal of a new people hostile to their historical roots, faith and culture, a kind of "Croatization" of Russia. Finally, many Poles, Hungarians and Germans moved to these lands, because of which a lot of other people's blood was added to the veins of the native Galicians. We must not forget about school. If the children of Little Russia studied at all-Russian schools, read Russian books and absorbed Russian education, then in Galicia they studied in Polish, and then, in the XNUMXth century, in German. Despite the strong development of Russophilia, in the second half of the XNUMXth century, every educated Galician had much less idea of ​​Pushkin, Gogol, Lermontov, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky than Mitskevich, Slovak, Vyspiansky, Senkevich. And all the more surprising that in such an environment there were people who sacredly kept their “Russianness” and allegiance to Orthodoxy!

After the next partition of Poland, Galicia went to the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and naturally, the Austrians discovered that not only Poles live there, but also other people, whose representatives the Austrians initially called Russians (Russen) and only then introduced the term "Ruthenes". In addition, the term Rusyns was used as a self-name.

Initially, the Austrian administration attempted to rely on the Poles, who continued to polonize the region, but during the 1848 revolution of the year (occurring, by a strange coincidence, in almost all European countries), the Austrian Poles opposed the shaky central government. Peasants, who hate their oppressors, supported the imperial power, based on the principle of denial of denials: "If the pans are against the emperor, then we are for." Vienna was obliged to somehow note such loyalty, and in 1848, in Lviv, the Golovna Ruska Rada center was created, forming the demands of the Russian population of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and promoting Russian cultural values. Political demands primarily consisted in granting equality with the Poles, cultural demands in granting the right to education, press and office work in the native language. Moreover, the “Council of Rus Scientists” gathered in 1848 the year came to the conclusion that “it is necessary to establish a uniform grammar and uniform spelling for all the Russian people in Austria and Russia”. Newspapers in Russian began to be published, for example, The Word by Yakov Golovatsky. In 1865, a program article appeared in the Word, in which it was argued that the Rusyns were part of a single Russian people occupying the territory from the Carpathians to Kamchatka. That is, there was no talk of a “separate non-Russian” people even in 1848, in the Austrian Galicia!

At the same time, the Austrian administration was not interested in awakening the all-Russian national consciousness among the Ruthenians and, while granting national rights to the Ruthenians, recognized them as some separate people “Ruthenians”, with which the Ruthenians had to agree.

In the 50-ies of the XIX century. Galician Ruthenians, although they recognized themselves in 1848 as a separate people of the “Ruthenians”, more and more penetrated the consciousness of Russian unity, print their books and the newspaper “Zorya Galitska” in a language very close to the common Russian literary language. The then governor of Galicia, the Pole, Count Agenor Goluhovsky, persecutes supporters of the Russian national idea; the editor of the newspaper “Zorya Galitska” receives instructions not to use “Moscow” words, and then the newspaper is shut down altogether. Under these conditions, two currents are gradually forming among the Galician Rusyns: the old Rusorins (“Moscophiles”), contrary to the wishes of the authorities who stood on the old, traditional soil of Russian unity, and the young Russians (“narodovtsy”) who are ready to please the authorities as a separate nation. The latter pressed for the fact that the spoken language of the Galician peasants, which absorbed a lot of Polish, German and Hungarian words for 500 over the years of foreign rule, is a “separate”, non-Russian language.

Of course, the feeling of unity with the Russian people among the Galicians could not help but cause concern to both the Austrian administration and the Polish landowners, who still owned lands in Galicia. Both those and others, having reconciled themselves among themselves, led together with the Uniate Church attack on the “Moskvofil”. Moreover, relations between the Austro-Hungarian and Russian empires soon became noticeably complicated.

The anti-Russian hysteria in Galicia intensified when members of the Polish uprising and offended members of Little Russian culture like Kulish and Dragomanov began to massively move from Lviv to Russia.

This Polish troops instantly launched vigorous activity. On their initiative, the Meta newspaper, which was already conducting propaganda in the spirit of Ukrainian political politics, began to appear, almost completely devoting its political articles to attacks on Moscow and the “Muscovites”. In December, 1863 was published in this newspaper the text of the song “Ukraine has not yet died”. It is noteworthy that it was significantly different from the now known.

Since in 1863 weapon Polish insurgents took it, then, consequently, the poem contained an appeal to the Ukrainians, together with the Poles, to come out against Russia. Thus, the Ukrainophile movement in Galicia became intensely saturated with political anti-Russian content. Polish immigrants aroused an interest in Ukrainophilism in part of the Polish society of Galicia, pointing to the political benefits that can be derived from it for the Polish cause. The Poles began to help the "narodvotsy", and with such strong support, the "narodvites" began to push the "Moskvofilov". The “Enlightenment” association appears, propaganda newspapers are published ... This activity completely suits both the Poles and the Austrians. It was during this period that the “nation” invented was called “Ukrainian” by someone. In fact, after centuries of unsuccessful Polonization of the Rusyns, a much more successful “Ukrainization” began, and the idea of ​​uniting Russia under the tsarist Orthodox crown was replaced by the idea of ​​“uniting Ukraine” under the crown of the Austrian, Catholic ...

But the Russian idea in Galicia was strong. In the 1866 year, on the pages of the “Slovo” newspaper, Mosfvil leaders definitely expressed their recognition of the Russian national idea. They declared that all the efforts of the authorities and the Poles to create a separate Uniate Ruthenian people were in vain and the people of the G-edicia consider themselves part of the united Russian people.

Such a statement of the Galician Rusyns was received with extreme discontent in Polish circles. The “Gazeta Narodowa”, an organ of the Eastern Galician gentry, was especially sharp. The newspaper called for a decisive fight against the “Moscoffs” and set the task of creating an “anti-Moscow Rus” in Galicia. "Such an anti-Moscow Rus, linked by a union with Poland, will be for Austria a defensive wall against Moscow, the basis of its future policy, directed to the East." This meant - on the basis of the Young Russian movement, to organize a Ukrainian-Ukrainian political party with a pronounced anti-Russian orientation, called together with the Poles to oppose the Old Russian party in Galicia, and in the future to serve as an instrument against Russia.

Supporters of political Ukrainophilism always diligently disowned the Polish roots of their movement, reacting to any mention of their presence with ostentatious indignation and asserting that all this is an invention of malicious “moskaley”. But the fact is that the Poles themselves at that time did not completely hide their involvement in the emergence and development of this movement.

By the way, Polish leaders who had the intention to create an “anti-Moscow Rus” from the Galician Ruthenians speak of national isolation of the Ruthenians from the “Muscovites” not as an obvious fact, but as something else that needs to be created, moreover with foreign (Polish) help. Consequently, the Poles themselves essentially recognized the idea of ​​national unity of Russia, but, based on their political considerations, were interested in destroying this unity, and therefore hastily created a separate Ukrainian people.

Meanwhile, the relations between Vienna and Berlin became closer and closer, and soon the German and Austro-Hungarian empires concluded a treaty of alliance directed against the Entente (the union of Russia, France and England). In the new conditions, the leadership of Austrian foreign policy has actually passed into the hands of politicians in more developed Germany. In this regard, a plan emerged in Berlin - to use Galicia as a springboard for Ukrainian separatism, which should ultimately lead to the rejection of the whole of Little Russia from Russia and its annexation to the possessions of the Hapsburgs. Accordingly, the information war against Russia sharply intensified, an important part of which was Ukrainian propaganda.

In order to weaken the connection of Galicia with the Russian Empire, the authorities began to actively distort the local dialect, introducing Polonism in large numbers, changing the spelling of words to differ more from the literary Russian language. By order of Vienna, pseudo-historical concepts were created, designed to show that Great Russians and Little Russians are different nations. Any rascal, ready to justify the "separateness" of Ukrainians from Russians, met with a warm welcome and solid financial support in Austria. It is not surprising that all kinds of Ukrainians flew to Lviv like flies to honey.

The names of most of them, as individuals insignificant in history, are forgotten today, but some are lucky. Around one of them in Ukraine, a real cult has been unfolded, his portrait adorns a fifty-hryvnia banknote, and his books are printed in considerable print runs. As you may have guessed, the most successful of planting Ukrainian separatism in the field was Mikhail Grushevsky. A man of very doubtful personal qualities, self-serving and unprincipled, he invented the history of Ukraine. His multivolume opus entitled "History of Ukraine-Rus" was completely criticized immediately after publication. Historians found hundreds of absurdities and frank inventions in this supposedly scientific work, but Grushevsky was not interested in historical authenticity, he created an ideological work. Not surprisingly, certain circles continue to repeat the stories of a bearded science fiction writer today. What is their essence? Very simple: Ukrainians existed in hoary antiquity, just then Ukrainians were called "Rusyns", and Ukraine - Rus, and then terrible Muscovites came and appropriated this name. And then also Ukraine itself conquered and oppressed Ukraine itself with great pleasure.

Grushevsky Mikhailo Sergiyovich

Being a subject of the Russian Empire, Grushevsky in 1891, at the age of twenty-five, moved to the Austrian empire, where he soon became a professor in Lviv. Almost immediately, he becomes an activist of the “Shevchenko Scientific Association”, and from 1897 of the year - and its chairman. Under the new leadership, this organization begins a real crusade against the Russian language and culture. And Grushevsky operates not only in Galicia, but also in Russia, trying to instill Ukrainian into the Little Russia. A mass of propaganda literature was sent to Kiev and other cities, but the “language” march to the east failed. The waste paper published in Galicia (including the books of Grushevsky) was clearly not in demand.

The funny thing is that he, propagandizing the Ukrainian idea, practically did not know the Ukrainian language (which he himself admitted) and did not learn it until the end of his life. Grushevsky's speech was a strange surzhik, which he actively implemented. It came to a comedy: the writer-Ukrainophile Ivan Nechui-Levitsky was forced to publicly oppose the artificial polonization of speech by Grushevsky. I emphasize in particular: Ivan Nechui-Levitsky was a staunch Ukrainian-phil and no less than Hrushevsky wanted to oust the Russian language, but even for him, the speech invented by the Lviv professor sounded gibberish.

Doing subversive work against Russia, Grushevsky still remained a subject of the Russian Empire, often came to Kiev and St. Petersburg. It would seem where the police are looking? An ardent and open enemy of the state freely travels around the country, embarrasses the minds of young people, and law enforcement agencies just do not like it. The shackles would have been an Austrian agent of influence and to Siberia, but imperial Russia was too liberal a state, for which it paid.

By the way, the professor did not disdain the execution of orders from the Austrian and German secret services, which was proved in 1917 year. But soon the revolution began, and he not only escaped retribution, but also found himself ascended to the very crest of a turbid political wave ...

To be honest, you do not want to waste time on describing the activities of this person. All interested are referred to the "Secret History of Ukraine-Rus" Oles Buzin or any other objective research.

Let's sum up. By the end of the nineteenth century, political Ukrainians with a center in Galicia acquired that ideological "stuffing" that still exists today. From now on, Ukrainians will consistently and fanatically act together with "enlightened" Europe against the Moscow "Asian barbarism." From Galicia will be sent to the actions of the fifth column within the Russian Empire. It is here with the support of Vienna and Berlin at the beginning of the 20th century the paramilitary Nazi organizations Sokol, Sich and Plast will be created, from the militants of which the legion of Sich Riflemen will later be formed. And it is in the works of Galician Ukrainian filos of the last century that the sources of the pathological desire of some modern Ukrainian politicians to join the EU and NATO should be sought.

The relatively calm XIX century became a kind of incubation period, when horrible monster ideas were only born and matured in cocoons. It will take quite a bit of time, and they will break free, filling their path with blood, leaving many dead bodies and smoking ruins everywhere. But then nobody could recognize the monsters in the sweet and intelligent gentlemen of the Grushevsk and Dragomanovs with their Ukrainophilism. And the beautiful-hearted people who lived at the turn of the XIX — XX centuries with affection watched the development of the monsters, instead of turning their necks in time, while there was such an opportunity ... And no one listened to those who saw the danger. Truly scary to be Cassandra, whose insights no one believes. In itself, Ukrainophileism at that time did not represent any political force, and some Russian newspapers made fun of Katkov’s Moscow Gazette, which warned of the danger hidden in Ukrainophilia. However, the forces behind the Ukrainian film and seeking to use it to their advantage, were very real and dangerous. Therefore, Katkov wrote: “Let us be considered alarmists [...], but let's not stop pointing to the danger, if only it is still emerging; we better want to be like that sailor, who, noticing a black spot in the sky, takes measures against the storm, rather than the one that begins to sail when a squall hits. ”

A Sound of Thunder

Demons of Ukrainians, carefully cultivated for many years, broke free during the First World War. With the outbreak of hostilities, all the masks of liberalism, tolerance and European civilization, which the Austrians used to hide behind during the peaceful years, were dropped, and if we remember the atrocities of the nazis today, if the crimes committed by the nazis were condemned, the Hapsburg monarchy’s war crimes are strongly ignored. And you need to remember. At least in order to know what the outcome of indulging national svidomym figures.


Until the 1914 war itself, despite the total anti-Russian propaganda, almost half of the inhabitants of Western Ukraine considered themselves to be part of a single Russian people. This was very unnerving Austrian officials, so even before the war, anyone who showed even the slightest pro-Russian sympathies was put on police records. Austrian gendarmerie kept detailed lists of "politically unreliable". For each there was a folder with compromising information, where, among other things, there were recommendations on how to deal with this person if Austria starts a war with Russia. Arrest was considered the most reliable means. Immediately after the start of hostilities in Lviv alone, about two thousand Muscophiles were immediately arrested. This is despite the fact that at this time all Ukrainian (both Ukrainophiles and Muscophiles) population of the city was 34 thousands of people. That is, every fifteenth was arrested. The official pretext for such actions was the fight against spies, but it is clear that such a number of Russian spies simply could not be. If in Lviv they were mostly arrested, then a wave of bloody reprisals swept through small towns and villages. The soldiers killed the peasants at the slightest suspicion of sympathy for Russia. They shot for the word, spoken in Russian, for a careless glance ... Hungarian soldiers were especially cruel. Do not stand aside and Ukrainophiles, who played the role of scammers. Student of Lviv University V.R. Vavrik, arrested by the Austrians on the denunciation of Svidomo Ukrainians, went through all the circles of hell and left detailed memories of the bloody orgy that the Austrians committed. His book “TEREZIN AND TALERGOF” became the most complete evidence of the crimes committed against the Russian people in Western Ukraine. It is available online. Everyone who still believes in European values, do not be lazy, read ...

4 September 1914 was opened in Talerhof (Austria-Hungary), the first in Europe concentration camp with the aim of genocide of the local Russian population.

How to name the actions of the Austrian authorities and Ukrainians who actively helped them? Genocide? Yes! Genocide! There is no other definition. And this is proved by another census, already Polish, 1931 of the year. According to her data, since the beginning of the century the number of Poles in Lviv has more than doubled - to 1 9 8 thousand, Jews - by 66% (45 thousand). And only Ukrainians after all the “demographic” explosions remained almost as many as there were in 1900, - 35 thousand. 173 people. The consequences of the Austrian stripping is obvious!

Galicia. The genocide of the Russian people

Soon all the prisons were overcrowded, and the most terrible act of the drama began. Austrians, specifically for the maintenance of Russophiles, were forced to create two concentration camps - Talerhof and Terezin, to which dissidents were brought from Galicia, Bukovina and Subcarpathian Rus. Who remembers today tens of thousands of people who were tortured in concentration camps in the center of civilized Europe? Starved, starved for disobedience, killed just for fun ... But this happened to people who were not even charged! All their fault was that they were Russian. They gave their lives for the preservation of their national identity, for the right to speak their native language. Today they are ordered to forget about them in Ukraine ...

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  1. Goga
    Goga 16 March 2013 09: 24
    Will pour out "Svidomo" and the tears of these obscure people. The time will come and the current russophobes will answer for the meanness of their predecessors angry
    1. Nicholas C.
      Nicholas C. 16 March 2013 13: 15
      A couple of add-ons.

      1. The European countries that won the WWII did not allow the prisoners of the Terezin and Talerhof camps to return to their homeland, but deported them to Canada. Characteristic stroke.

      2. After the defeat in the 1863 uprising, the Polish population in Galicia began to far exceed the Rusyn population in almost all cities. I had to see statistics. I think it’s easy to find. The idea of ​​Ukrainians was supported mainly by Poles, not Rusyns. Most of them were the first Ukrainians. The grimace of history then spilled over into the Bandera-Polish massacre. Many Rusyns returned from Uniate to Orthodoxy (and such were the first to fall under repression). Moskvofily are many of the Rusyns. By the way, even now those who consider themselves Rusyns do not at all build their attitude on Russophobia.

      A couple of quotes from the poems of the leader of the Moscow party Rusyn Ivan Franko:

      "Hey, it was rosy, it was Russian grief,
      Get on Europe and get the pose of the sea!

      Bachili Muri Ljubljana that Rєki,
      Yak from the edge of the Big Rusin forever.

      Russian Rydanny stognannya moon
      There, de Pontebi cliffs cliff.

      Already iz Cormon, mov living to the grave,
      Gendarmes drove our people, like thinness ... "

      "They even wanted to
      we climb in the end!
      replace our faith
      faith of grandfathers and fathers.

      "Turkogreks" scold us,
      churches - you judge for yourself -
      lock - unbaptized
      and go unmarried!

      Yes, even the prelates of greedy,
      in red robes, they send us
      this marriage is violent with Rome
      they call the union ... "

      "on the Holy Jurassic Mountain" 1900.

      It was not possible to find in the Rusyn language and in translation into MOV (more than 10 corrections were made to Franko's poetry!). I quote from the "Library of Classics" published in the USSR in Derzhavin's translation.
      1. AndreyAB
        AndreyAB 17 March 2013 16: 03
        And what has really changed since that time? "Civilized" psheks and "enlightened" Europeans say and do the same thing as a hundred years ago; they manifest their inferiority complex in their hatred of Russia and the Russian people.
  2. radio operator
    radio operator 16 March 2013 09: 43
    And the Poles are still offended why the Red Army did not come to the aid of the Poles when the Nazi uprising took place. And the new holiday of November 4 reminds of Polish treachery.
    1. Kaa
      Kaa 16 March 2013 15: 23
      Quote: radio operator
      why the Red Army did not come to the aid of the Poles when the Nazi uprising

      Well, what are you, the conspiracy theory ... laughing Just the rear was behind the Red Army ... winked
      "In July, Soviet troops entered Poland. Along the way, there were cases of arrest of members of the Home Army. The latter did not complain about the latter because it was subordinate to the" London "government, which was dominated by anti-communists who fought with Soviet Russia in 1920." Londoners "themselves. they were afraid that if the Red Army liberated Poland, their homeland would become socialist, and they decided to go all-in and start an uprising.The fact that the Germans had enough strength to suppress it (for example, a shock group of SS troops was pulled to Warsaw) did not bother them After all, if successful, the émigré government could boast that the Polish capital was liberated by its own forces. And if the Red Army did, the USSR would have reason to include Poland in its sphere of influence. The uprising began on August 1, when Soviet troops approached Warsaw. It soon became clear that the rebels did not have enough food and weapons, many went to the Germans literally with bare hands. could not. The rebels showed miracles of heroism, but were doomed. On October 2, 1944, after 63 days of fighting, the rebels surrendered. As a result, Warsaw was almost completely wiped off the face of the earth by the Germans. The result was 198 thousand killed and 500 thousand exiled to concentration camps. Soviet troops did not intervene in what was happening. The reasons were explained by the People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs Vyacheslav Molotov.
      “The leaders of the Polish émigré government in London are responsible for the Warsaw adventure undertaken without the knowledge of the Soviet command and in violation of its plans ... No one can reproach the Soviet government for providing insufficient assistance to the Polish people. The most effective form of assistance is active military action Soviet troops against the German occupiers in Poland, "he wrote in a letter to the British government in 1944." As for the attempt to make the Soviet government responsible for the victims of the Warsaw people, it cannot see it otherwise than a desire to shift responsibility from a sore head to a healthy one. . If ... the Soviet command had been timely warned about the planned uprising, then things would have taken a different turn, "- stressed Molotov. Http:// -
  3. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 16 March 2013 10: 02
    there was a separate case with the Poles, they were constantly shitting on us, creatures ... and the president didn’t easily break them-God punished him for the deeds of his people ...
    1. walter_rus
      walter_rus 18 March 2013 03: 18
      The Poles have had claims against us since the time of the three partitions of Poland between the Russian Empire, Prussia and Austria-Hungary. They have no complaints about Germany and Austria. Although let's remember: what happened to the units that were transferred to these two German states? they simply ceased to be Polish lands, and the indigenous Polish population either assimilated or became a national minority. The Russian part became the Kingdom of Poland under the direct control of our tsar, the Poles there remained the titular nation with the preservation of local self-government, so they used autonomy to prepare uprisings against the "Russian occupiers" (I take these words in quotes - you still need to look for such invaders smile ) And then, just on the basis of the Kingdom of Poland, after the October Revolution, a Polish independent state was formed, and after the Second World War, the USSR returned to Poland the lands that were appropriated by the Germans (including access to the Baltic) and recaptured at the cost of the lives of our soldiers. So both Poland as a state and the Polish people themselves now exist only thanks to Russia. And from the Poles you yourself see what gratitude. By the way, the Finns, who also gained their statehood thanks to us (in the 18th century they conquered the Finnish lands from Sweden and gave them complete independence after the revolution), turned out to be more decent and now do not feel such caveman hatred towards us. If I'm wrong about something, correct it. I am not a professional historian, I only analyze well-known facts.
  4. Egoza
    Egoza 16 March 2013 10: 26
    And Rusyns are still being rotten by "Svidomo Ukrainians". Well, people do not want to recognize themselves as Ukrainians and are fighting for their rights, for their language. And they still want to be reunited with Russia. You need to have remarkable courage and patriotism to resist all kinds of oppression in modern Galicia.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 16 March 2013 17: 47
      Subcarpathian Rusyns live in the very center of Europe along the northern and southern slopes of the Carpathians. Their homeland is called Subcarpathian Rus, located on the borders of Ukraine, Slovakia and Poland. In addition to these countries, less lives in Romania, Hungary, Yugoslavia, the Czech Republic. In no country do Rusyns have an administratively allocated territory. About 130 thousand Rusyns live in Slovakia, 60 thousand in Poland, Yugoslavia 25 thousand, Romania 20 thousand, Czech Republic 12 thousand, Croatia 5 thousand, Hungary 3 thousand, USA 620 thousand, Canada 20 thousand, Australia 2,5 thousand, Ukraine 800 thousand Rusyns.
    2. carbofo
      carbofo 19 March 2013 09: 28
      Quote: Egoza
      A Rusyns to this day spread rot.

      If you are Russian, you have no choice, this is a state of mind and not a stamp in your passport.
      Phrase: Russians do not give up -, the essence of nature, this can not be changed, so the old method of physical destruction is more reliable :(.
      But this does not change much, not a single nation has endured so much suffering, not one could survive, except for the Russians. This is probably why they are so afraid and hated.
  5. lechatormosis
    lechatormosis 16 March 2013 10: 33
    In Russia, HUNGARIAN OCCUPIERS HAVE MONUMENTS allegedly they are soldiers and were doing their duty in RUSSIA
    Bastard, in their understanding, the soldier's duty in RUSSIA to kill as many Russians as possible.
    I will never forgive these reptiles for the extermination of the Russian population so that all kinds of Tolerasts do not tell me.
    1. carbofo
      carbofo 19 March 2013 09: 33
      Quote: lehatormoz
      We have in RUSSIA HUNGARIAN OCCUPIERS set up monuments.

      The moral ones have pissed off their ass and are furious.
      Break the grudge for a slammed hole on others, the moral degeneration of Europe is a fact.
      Tolerasts remind me of the film "Mars Attacks", they constantly repeat -We came in peace-, but the case suggests otherwise.
  6. Egoza
    Egoza 16 March 2013 11: 08
    "The UN and the Council of Europe granted the Rusyns the status of a national minority and a separate subject of international law, about which the Ukrainian government was informed, but this had no effect."
    By the way, I highly recommend reading Transcarpathia is not peasant, Russians are not bandera
    The article deals with issues not only about opinions about Rusyns from the point of view of “Ukrainians” - “From their point of view, the Rusyns are also Ukrainian, only bad, under-grown to the Ukrainian national consciousness”. But also possible questions of the accession of Rusyns to other European states (which some would very much want), but also at the request of the inhabitants, and in particular
    REPUBLIC OF PODCARPATHIAN RUSSIA as an autonomous region or a special administrative district of RUSSIA.
    (similar to the Kaliningrad region of the Russian Federation)
  7. ded_73
    ded_73 16 March 2013 11: 13
    Everything is as always ... What a "work", what comments. Some are absolutely in white, and the second in ... Very "conducive" to mutual respect and understanding.
  8. bistrov.
    bistrov. 16 March 2013 11: 29
    Yes, Stalin made a big mistake by not completely expelling the entire population of Galicia to cold lands, for example, to Oymyakon or Verkhoyansk, but there is enough space, not only dozens of Ukraine, but also Europe can be hidden there. Now this mistake of his burped, the fact that the best lands and industrial cities were torn from Russia, and the Russian population is brought up in a spirit hostile to Russia. Twenty more years will pass, people remembering Soviet power will die and NATO will come close to Kursk and Bryansk. And the Russian leadership in this matter does not moo, does not calve.
    1. Olaf
      Olaf 16 March 2013 12: 31
      Thanks to your father of nations, a large state collapsed in 91. Why? Because many still living people at that time very well remembered the "great deeds" of the leader - deportation, repression, etc. And some external "friends" of the USSR very skillfully took advantage of the justified grievances of the people. Anyway, this site has good articles, but there is frank and very primitive propaganda, and a lot.
      1. dmb
        dmb 16 March 2013 20: 30
        To some extent, I agree with your statement on the role of Stalin in the tragedy of 91 and the primitive propaganda on the site. Sometimes you read such nonsense, the remnants of hair stand on end. That's just about deportations and repressions ... If you are firmly convinced that Stalin did this with nothing to do, then how do you differ from primitive propagandists. And if there were reasons for that, then call them honestly. Then there will be a subject for discussion.
      2. Setrac
        Setrac 16 March 2013 20: 39
        The leader, the Father of Nations, deported potential traitors, those who could replenish the Wehrmacht during the occupation, and pay attention, simply deported to the east, the Nazis in such cases drove all the unreliable to the ghetto, where they survived, as in the besieged Leningrad, the enlightened west acted more simply, in the USA, citizens of America and ethnic Japanese were driven to concentration camps, where they died safely.
      3. Gladiatir-zlo
        Gladiatir-zlo 17 March 2013 12: 23
        yes sir, it was the father of nations, this great man, if he were like Gorbachev-Yeltsin, they would not have remembered him in 50 years. He is a "bastard", he still interferes, reminds me. Therefore, to this day, many "Westerners" consider it a great spiritual feat to spit on the name of the great dead lion. I \ only am interested in one thing, you "tolerasts" and "Western people" what will you do with the Islamic population, which does not care about your customs or your laws? Who will you call for help? Why do I think I know the answer?
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 17 March 2013 21: 50
          This is because you know about Islam from Western propaganda, the very ones that "neither your customs nor your laws are worth a penny" are Arabs, no one will let them into Russia. The Türkic language group, or for example Farsi, are quite adequate people. you, in your chauvinism, row everyone with the same brush.
          I’ll tell whom I will call for help, I will call for the help of my children.
          P.S. I can't read thoughts, that's why your "Well, why does it seem to me that I know the answer?" did not understand, please specify what answer you know.
          1. walter_rus
            walter_rus 18 March 2013 03: 59
            Personally, I have lived in the Caucasus for a long time, so I do not need either Western or any other propaganda materials to form my own opinion about Islam. I will not impose my opinion, it is better to go to the website of the Novoe Delo newspaper, the most popular social and political weekly in Dagestan, This newspaper has two pages entirely devoted to religion. And there, most of the articles are devoted to promoting the superiority of Islam over other religions. And in other sections in completely secular articles, this topic arises wherever possible.
            Quote: Setrac
            Neither penniless your customs nor your laws

            It constantly advocates that Sharia is the best law and should be adopted by all. Yes, there is common sense in Sharia, but it came about among Arabs, in a completely different society with a different way of life, and why should it be imposed on others if they already have their own laws and customs formed by many centuries of their own history.
            Quote: Setrac
            Arabs, nobody will let them into Russia

            So for a long time the Arabs have been promoting their ideology in Russia and successfully recruiting insufficiently educated people in the ranks of fanatics.
            Quote: Setrac
            I will call for the help of my children

            And I think that we must now take measures to ensure our children secure a peaceful future.
            1. carbofo
              carbofo 19 March 2013 09: 45
              Quote: walter_rus
              And there, most of the articles are devoted to promoting the superiority of Islam over other religions. .

              There is no superiority in Islam, religion is for the poor from the rich, this is obvious in essence, you can’t understand an illiterate book if it is written in verse and even the meaning is not straightforward, our book is written unlike simpler.
              That is, it turns out that a significant number of illiterates simply do not understand a word, but interpret what is written as they were educated taxis of society.
              It turns out not religion but a group of sects of interest under one roof.

              Another aspect, we thank God for the good and ask for forgiveness for the fact that we did it badly.
              Everything is different for them, how much they watched people being killed in the east, the voice acting only screams that God is great, uninterrupted, this does not mean a great mind and a clear conscience.
  9. knn54
    knn54 16 March 2013 13: 10
    Yes. Stalin was right — it was necessary for the Western Front not to attack Warsaw, but with the South-Western Front — to Lviv, without dispersing forces ... But, at least they were, at least.
  10. reserve
    reserve 16 March 2013 13: 49
    It is touching that the authors refer to a certain Oles Buzina. From the point of view of a Ukrainian, this is an indicator of their LEVEL. Buzina, after his opus "Shevchenko's Ghoul", was treated for a concussion for several months, so much he outraged our entire community. The article unites at the level of instincts. And it should unite our two different, but with a rich common history, people.
    1. radar75
      radar75 16 March 2013 14: 32
      This Buzina is a disgusting phenomenon in Ukrainian journalism. In the 90s he tried himself as a "specialist" in the field of culture. Wrote some indecent articles about vocalists. After that, no one wanted to cooperate with him anymore. So he decided to make money on Ukrainophobia. He is constantly beaten by someone for this. Recently, the artist Poyarkov beat him live. So, the cheapest clown.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 16 March 2013 18: 02
        Quote: radar75
        He wrote several indecent articles about vocalists. After that, nobody wanted to collaborate with him anymore.

        What? Wrote the truth about the stars? who just open their mouths to the soundtrack and try to get into the singer without a voice? But the fact that no one wanted to cooperate with him is a lie. He works great and writes in the newspaper "Today" and in "2000" there are his articles. True, Svidomo does not like him. Well. He has a much wider audience. And the books are scattering like hot cakes.
    2. Kaa
      Kaa 16 March 2013 15: 33
      Quote: rezerv
      Buzina, after his opus "Shevchenko's Ghoul", so outraged our entire public.

      All of your Galician public, write honestly. But in general, maybe even an oligarchic one?
      “The Shevchenko days have passed in Ukraine, and we again saw an endless string of politicians, from Viktor Yanukovych to Oleg Tyagnibok, who reached out with wreaths and flowers to the monuments of the great poet to make regular speeches around them. To share the beliefs and feelings of a fiery fighter for social justice, as Taras Shevchenko was throughout his life, protégés and servants of the oligarchy, of course, cannot. Therefore, they pass off their own fabrications for the worldview of Taras Grigorievich, impose their own views on society, hiding behind the authority of the recognized classic of Ukrainian and Russian literature. The Ukrainian oligarchy uses a nationalist ideology as a means of disguise. However, oligarchic groups are imposing a nationalist outlook on Ukrainian society by all possible means. For this they use not only radicals like the leader of Svoboda, who openly proclaims neo-fascist slogans. views are disseminated by representatives of all leading political parties. The difference between them is only that the "regionals" use softer rhetoric than the representatives of UDAR and "Batkivshchyna", and they, in turn, do not allow themselves such harsh statements as the young men from Tyagnibok's party. All leading television channels, writers and journalists warmed by oligarchic groups, as well as the overwhelming majority of public and cultural figures who have had the opportunity to speak in the leading media are advocating the nationalist doctrine. Nationalist ideology makes it possible to present politicians striving to preserve the current socio-economic system as " patriots "only for the fact that they spread historical myths and cause mutual distrust in peoples who are related in culture, language and worldview. Nationalists are trying to replace the historical past with hastily concocted myths, which the authorities willingly insert into school textbooks and try to turn them into the basis of statehood. In fact, the oligarchic regime needs nationalist myths, primarily because they help to sever ethnic, economic and cultural ties with Russia, which hinder Ukraine's transformation into the periphery of the Euro-Atlantic world.
      Taras Shevchenko, who glorified the struggle for freedom in his poems and gave his life to this struggle, is needed by the ruling oligarchy and the nationalists serving it, as an accomplice in their crimes, as a like-minded person, sanctifying their actions and views with their authority. Just as in the Jonathan Swift novel, the Lilliputians captured Gulliver and forced to serve themselves, so the insignificants who rule Ukraine today are trying to take advantage of the figure of Taras Shevchenko. Unfortunately, we must pay tribute to the ideologists of the current system. For several decades they managed to divide and split Ukrainian society. The spiritual consequences of oligarchic domination were no less terrible than economic disruption. Over the past ten years, political forces that defended social rights and resisted oligarchic domination have been almost completely destroyed in the country. Public sentiment in favor of Ukraine’s integration with Russia and the former Soviet republics is gradually giving way to supporting the course of Euro-Atlantic integration, which is carried out by the oligarchic authorities. Through deception and manipulation, people are forced to act against their own interests, and we have to powerlessly observe this
      1. reserve
        reserve 16 March 2013 16: 39
        I'm not from Galicia, I'm from the south. And far from being an oligarch. Such biased articles as this only quarrel us with you. "Whoever remembers the old - that one is out of sight" is an old worldly wisdom. Ukrainians can also recall the violent Russification, and the shelling of Kiev by Muravyov with gas shells 90 years ago, and the Holodomor was brought to us by the communists from Russia. And much more. (By the way, as far as I know, the tsar did not fire gas shells at the Germans in the imperialist war, but Muravyov did at Kiev.)
        1. Kaa
          Kaa 16 March 2013 18: 09
          Quote: rezerv
          Ukrainians can also recall violent Russification

          "From 1772 to 1848 the Austrian government recognized the unity of the Galicians with the rest of the Russian world. They were officially called Russen - that is, Russians or Rusyns. Starting from 1890, a new spelling was introduced, according to which three letters were removed from the Russian alphabet and two new ones were added. The "reformers" call the Galicians "Ukrainian-Russian" and then simply the "Ukrainian" population, and the term Little Russia is replaced by "Ukraine." This policy reaches its apogee in 1912 - the Austrian government for the first time officially calls the Russian Galicians " Ukrainians. "This was announced in the Act of the Emperor of Austria-Hungary Franz Joseph on the future opening of the" Ukrainian University ".
          Nevertheless, the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants of Galician Rus do not accept the new rules and still call themselves Russians or Rusyns, and their language, which is a Galician-Russian dialect, Russian. In response, the "Ukrainians" party declares all dissidents to be "mos..kalyami" and "agents of Moscow", who allegedly receive "tsarist rubles" for their protest. This is written about in denunciations to local authorities, and they, in turn, establish surveillance of those opposing violent "Ukrainization" and begin a campaign of repression against all dissidents. The main conductors of the policy of the Austrian and Polish authorities should be called the historian Mikhail Hrushevsky (the future head of the UNR and the head Academy of Sciences of the Ukrainian SSR under Stalin) and the head of the Uniate Church, Metropolitan Andrey Sheptytsky (until the liberation of Ukraine in 1944, he faithfully served the Nazis). As a Polish count, Sheptytsky was a secret adviser on "Ukrainian affairs" to Emperor of Austria-Hungary Franz Joseph. At the same time, he was an informant for the German emperor Wilhelm II (amazing love for Germany in any form) about which, apparently, the Austrian emperor himself did not know. At the same time, he cherished the dream of creating a Uniate Patriarchate "Great Ukraine from the Caucasus to the Carpathians." After the appointment to the post of head of the Uniate Church of Sheptytsky, a "personnel revolution" followed. Only those who shared anti-Russian beliefs began to be admitted to theological seminaries. As a result, priests emerged from higher theological educational institutions, whom the people called "priests." This caused a wave of backlash. Believers began to boycott services in Uniate churches and ask the bishops to change the "priest" for ordinary priests. Nevertheless, the "priest" manage to win over some of the Greek Catholics to their side, and whole villages become breeding grounds for the ideology of "Ukrainianism" Other villages still adhere to the ideology of Russian unity. Fierce fights are tied between them. The secular and clerical authorities, of course, fully support the party of "Ukrainians" of Galicia. In 1882, the famous trial took place - "the case of Olga Grabar". This year, the parish of Fr. John Naumovich openly converted to Orthodoxy. For this, Fr. John was arrested and tried for "high treason." Teaching the Russian literary language and reading newspapers from Russia is equated with high treason. " a valley at the foot of the Alps near Graz, the main city of Styria, it was the worst torture chamber of all Austrian prisons in the Habsburg Empire ... It seems that 1914 thousand would be an incomplete number of all victims within Galician Rus.
        2. Setrac
          Setrac 16 March 2013 20: 53
          Quote: rezerv
          "Whoever remembers the old - that one is out of sight" is an old worldly wisdom.

          This wisdom has a sequel: whoever forgets - both eyes out. Let them not hope that the Russians forget.
        3. haron
          haron 17 March 2013 06: 39
          Quote: rezerv
          Such as this tendentious articles only quarrel us with you.

          Unfortunately you are right.
        4. walter_rus
          walter_rus 18 March 2013 04: 11
          Quote: rezerv
          "Whoever remembers the old will be out of sight"

          Very correctly said. It was only after the collapse of the USSR in some new states that the leaders made a name for themselves precisely because of their hatred of Russia. And this is understandable - it’s difficult to do something useful and the result is not always immediately visible, and creating an image of the enemy is not necessary. At the same time, people can be distracted from real problems. Here Belarus successfully suffered from Russophobia under Shushkevich, and in some others (especially in the Baltic states) the disease turned into a chronic form.
    3. Egoza
      Egoza 16 March 2013 17: 59
      Quote: rezerv
      Buzina, after his opus "Shevchenko's Ghoul", was treated for a concussion for several months, so much he outraged our entire community.

      This is the SHOWN! laughing What is the public? The "hefty Ukrainian" organizations tried to sue him - after all, they lost all the courts! O. Buzina uses OPEN ARCHIVAL sources. some of them are even on the exhibition stands in the museum of comrade G. Shevchenko. He writes the truth, but svidomye do not want to read. And when there are not enough words in an argument, fists are used. And so what? Elderberry gained even more popularity as a person who is not afraid of threats and speaks the truth. And oh, how I don't want to admit her!
      1. Nicholas C.
        Nicholas C. 16 March 2013 18: 19
        Quote: Egoza
        He writes the truth, but Svidomo do not want to read. And when the words in the dispute are not enough - fists are used

        A dispute is when an opponent has an argument. And what arguments do Svidomo have?

        But they have not only fists. Maslovsky was killed, Yaroslav Galan was killed, hundreds of Orthodox priests were killed, such as Metropolitan Alexei Kremenetsky (Gromadsky) and Carpatho-Russian Bishop Michael Mukachevsky (Tarnavsky), and his own, as Protopresbyter Gabriel Kostelnik, who advocated the return of the Uniates to the fold of Orthodoxy.

        So the courageous position of Olesya Elderberry arouses special respect.
  11. Humpty
    Humpty 16 March 2013 13: 54
    Quote: Sasha 19871987
    there was a separate case with the Poles, they were constantly shitting on us, creatures ... and the president didn’t easily break them-God punished him for the deeds of his people ...

    This is exactly what the god is marking.
  12. Dimka off
    Dimka off 16 March 2013 16: 12
    Here is information about the genocide of the Russian people in the Russian lands of Western Russia, and to schools. so that the children know the truth about their roots, about their true history. But just who will miss this in Ukrainian schools? because glorifying bandits and traitors is much more convenient for the rulers than telling the truth. The West will not allow this, because it works on the principle of divide and conquer. And so the Russian people were divided and dominated. Exactly according to Bismarck:

    The power of Russia can only be undermined by the separation of Ukraine from it. For those who want to make such a separation, it will be necessary not only to tear off, but also to oppose Ukraine to Russia, to pit two parts of a single people and watch how a brother will kill his brother. To do this, you only need to find and nurture traitors among the national elite and, with their help, change the identity of one part of the great people to such an extent that they will hate everything Russian, hate their kind, without realizing it. Everything else is a matter of time.
    1. reserve
      reserve 16 March 2013 16: 49
      Dimka off - where are the Russian lands in Western Russia? When there was Kievan Rus, there was no Russia in the project. In the place of Moscow there was a Finnish village and the princes from the vicinity of Lake Ladoga were only going to ask the Scandinavians from the dew tribe to give them a king, because they could not choose anyone from their own. Read the book Choosing Your Own History by Russian historians.
      Speaking of the power of Russia - Lenin sent Muravyov to Ukraine when he realized that without our bread in Russia there would be a skiff. This version also has to be.
      1. washi
        washi 16 March 2013 17: 06
        And where were Ukrainian at that time? Show at least one map where Ukraine is drawn.
        I would be ashamed to call HIS COUNTRY.
        Take the example from the Georgians. at least they called their country an American state
      2. Dimka off
        Dimka off 16 March 2013 18: 34
        Before asking such questions, please take an interest in such names as Chervonnaya Russia, Carpathian Russia, White Russia, Small Russia, Subcarpathian Russia. All these are parts of Russia. like areas. And everything will become clear. And in the article about the Russian population of those places everything is clearly said.
      3. KuzmichDP
        KuzmichDP 16 March 2013 21: 10
        The reserve, don’t be nonsense, the Russians (Russians) were a Slavic tribe, and there were no mention of any mythical Scandinans there, all this theory was invented by the first professors by the Germans Schletser, Bayer and the like, and their Norman theory, still carried by Lomonosov to smithereens, and one of them broke his nose in a fight, so read the story carefully.
      4. Flooding
        Flooding 17 March 2013 11: 13
        Quote: rezerv
        In place of Moscow there was a Finnish village

        Did the Finns really live there? Learn the story.
        Quote: rezerv
        Scandinavian dew

        What kind of Scandinavians are these from the mysterious tribe of dews? Back to the tip above.
        Quote: rezerv
        and where are the Russian lands in western Russia?

        Probably, this time it is legitimate to ask the question: who are the Russians? Answering him, you will understand everything.
        1. reserve
          reserve 18 March 2013 12: 11
          Russians are those who called the Scandinavians to rule themselves. The ancient inhabitants of the vicinity of Lake Onega and the eastern coast of the Baltic Sea. According to Russian historians, the Russians have nothing to do with Kievan Rus.
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 18 March 2013 18: 13
            Quote: rezerv
            Russians are those who called the Scandinavians to rule themselves

            Not even interesting ... Scanty even. So they called themselves Russian? Is this the tribe’s name? Finno-Ugric?
            Quote: rezerv
            According to Russian historians, the Russians have nothing to do with Kievan Rus.

            Share the secret. If it is not clear, indicate the sources.
            1. reserve
              reserve 18 March 2013 19: 09
              The book "Choosing Your Story". There are several authors.
            2. Setrac
              Setrac 18 March 2013 21: 40
              We all know these "Russian" historians perfectly well - Schletzer, Miller and company, many of these "Russian" historians, they did not even know the Russian language, what could they learn?
  13. washi
    washi 16 March 2013 17: 00
    Sorry, but in the last photo on the left, if I'm not mistaken - Roman Berezovsky. But could they do the same with Boris. I will give you an address.
  14. rexby63
    rexby63 16 March 2013 18: 29
    holy kept their "Russianness" and allegiance to Orthodoxy

    Rusyns, like, Greek Catholics
    1. Mefodiy
      Mefodiy 16 March 2013 19: 33
      Ruthenians (or Ukrainians) more than half are Uniates (Greek Catholics), unfortunately, because historically Western Ruthenians were of the Greek faith. For some time, the Uniate Church performed certain positive functions, including in protecting against Catholics, language, folk traditions and culture. Now the role of the Uniate Church for Ukraine is more destructive, I must admit. We don’t need a PAP, but we don’t need a clerk Cyril.
      And Ukraine needs one single local Orthodox Church, the patriarch of which will be equal among all equal Orthodox patriarchs at the first word of the Patriarch of Constantinople
      1. KuzmichDP
        KuzmichDP 16 March 2013 21: 38
        Dear Methodius, there is no need to talk nonsense, a country like Ukraine cannot exist in principle, one part of a single country cannot exist without another, therefore the existence of today's Ukraine is a mistake, an accident that arose after the collapse of the Union, therefore, the current local oligarchs In the near future, a simple choice, either with a united Russia, or with the GeyroSoyuz, the latter threatens with complete assimilation to the inhabitants of Little Russia and the loss of their self-identity, And then the division of the territory between the western neighbors Romanians, Hungarians and Poles. So, like the existence of Ukraine in its present form, and the existence of the so-called "Ukrainian local autocephalous Orthodox Church" is under a big question. Only as part of the one and indivisible Russian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate, since there are no Ukrainians, but there is a divided Russian people, consisting of four sub-ethnic groups of Great Russians, Little Russians, Belorussians and Rusyns.
        1. reserve
          reserve 18 March 2013 12: 23
          Dear KuzmichDP, in the last century, Ukraine (for your information) was in the 18th year (before its occupation by Russia) and has existed since 1990. And the patriarchate of Moscow stole from Kiev and therefore the Moscow patriarchy has not been recognized in the world for over a hundred years. I don’t remember the dates, and it doesn’t matter. The main thing is that such an event has taken place.
      2. Flooding
        Flooding 17 March 2013 11: 17
        Quote: Mefodiy
        And Ukraine needs one single local Orthodox Church, the patriarch of which will be equal among all equal Orthodox patriarchs at the first word of the Patriarch of Constantinople

        When a discussion begins at the level of "need-not" first of all, some arguments are given - tasks, goals.
        But when someone takes the liberty of judging what kind of church a country and people need, one can only sympathize with the unfortunate.
    2. Dimka off
      Dimka off 16 March 2013 19: 46
      Now more than 60% of the Rusyns of Transcarpathia are Orthodox, and 35% are Greek Catholics (Uniates).
  15. jury08
    jury08 17 March 2013 00: 29
    The Rusyns of Galicia were never mentally nor ethnically Russian (Muscovites). The term Rusyns refers only to former and current Ukrainians, and to the Russians in the modern sense has nothing to do!
  16. Egoza
    Egoza 17 March 2013 11: 50
    Regarding Rusyns you can see:
    When they say that Ukraine is Holy Russia, it is necessary to specify which Ukraine. Ukraine based on Ukrainians - radical nationalist ideology or Little Russia Ukraine, along with the Donbass, Crimea and New Russia. Very true about the Ukrainian idea was expressed by the historian and publicist-Lviv citizen of the late 19 century O. A. Monchalovsky: "... Ukrainization means: abandoning your past, to be ashamed of belonging to the Russian people, even the names" Rus "," Russian "." Therefore, any Ukrainian president will preserve the Ukrainian ideology and try to get rid of the concept of the Russian world, otherwise the Slavic peoples will naturally gravitate towards each other.
    Ukrainian ideology diligently detached from the common Russian root, but very painfully endures the desire of other ethnic groups to break away from it. In particular, the Ukrainian authorities do not recognize the Carpathian Rusyns as a separate people, although in all countries where the Rusyns live, they are recognized as a separate nationality. The assertion that the ethnonym Rusyns is “only the old name of the Ukrainian people”, from which it is concluded that Rusyns are “part of the Ukrainian people”, in the opinion of Rusyns scientists, have no scientific justification. This is indirectly recognized by modern Ukrainian historiography, which seeks the root of "Ukrainians" in the mythical past, considering the Russian and Belarusian peoples only branches of modern Ukrainian.
    The processes of the Ukrainian national revival and the establishment of the ideology of "Ukrainians" did not affect the identity of the Rusyns. The geographical distance in the process of the formation of Rusyns strengthened the sense of cultural and ethnic features in relation to the Ukrainians.
    The Rusyns have their own historical heritage - the name, colloquial language and customs that linked them to the old Slavic-Russian, rather than Ukrainian heritage.
    Subcarpathian Rusyns are not a national and not a cultural minority of the Ukrainian people, not an ethnic group that belongs to the Ukrainian nation. Ruthenians have their own ethnocultural identity based on the old Slavic tradition, which is different, and sometimes even opposed to everything Ukrainian. When Ruthenian says that he is Ruthenian, he does not identify himself with the Ukrainian people. The ethnonym "Rusyns" is much older than the ethnonym "Ukrainian" and equally belongs to all Eastern Slavs.
    And more:
    In December 2008, the SBU charged the head of the Soym of the Subcarpathian Rusyns with the priest Dimitry Sidor of encroaching on the territorial integrity of Ukraine. The trial has been going on for the fourth year, and all this time about. Demetrius is on his own recognizance. On March 19, the announcement of the verdict is planned, which may result in the established art. 110 CC three years in prison.
    1. Nicholas C.
      Nicholas C. 17 March 2013 12: 15
      Regarding Rusyns, their more or less official sites:
      Magazine of the Prime Minister of Subcarpathian Russia Peter Getsko -
      Site "Subcarpathian Rus" -
  17. Opera
    Opera 17 March 2013 12: 18
    Yes, the Russian Empire was too liberal a state, for which it paid! You can’t say better - a lesson to posterity!
  18. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 17 March 2013 12: 43
    <<< And the beautiful-hearted people who lived at the turn of the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries watched the development of monsters with affection, instead of twisting their necks in time, while there was such an opportunity ... And those who saw danger, no one listened ...
    In the shackles of the Austrian agent of influence (Grushevsky) and in Siberia, but imperial Russia was too liberal state, for which it paid. >>>
    No matter how today's too liberal Russia does not pay for its magnanimity, allowing modern agents of influence, penetrating into all spheres of our lives up to power structures, to calmly conduct anti-Russian activities under the guise of shitty democratic demagogy about pluralism and tolerance, which allowed them, in essence, to create 5th column in Russia. It is a pity that history lessons are remembered when it is already too LATE!
    1. walter_rus
      walter_rus 18 March 2013 04: 24
      So the people will pay, and the authorities, those on whom it depends - it suits them or just a lack of time to bother with these problems, you need to row the loot before it's too late sad
  19. knn54
    knn54 17 March 2013 13: 11
    There is no common historical tradition between Galicia and the rest of Ukraine. Galicia was annexed, or rather conquered from the Poles by Vladimir the Holy in 981, and was deposited from the Kiev state in 1087. What identity can we talk about after 700 years of Polish and Austro-Hungarian rule? ANYWHERE in the annals is not mentioned the Slavic affiliation of the population of Galicia. In the war of liberation under the leadership of Bogdan Khmelnitsky, in ALL battles ONLY Galicians were on the side of Poland (in the battle of Lvov in 1655 the Volynians held the Cossacks). The Galician historian Omelyan Ogonovsky argued that the Goths were ancestors of the Galicians - this thesis in the XNUMXth century made it possible for the Gali maintain friendly relations with the Germans and Austrians.
    Interesting fact. When the Germans gave the green light to the creation of the Galichin division, they had an argument of a racial plan. It was believed that the Galicians and Ukrainians are two different nations, and at the same time, the Galicians are almost Aryans. This legend made it possible for the division to function.
    PS Is not the attempt to create a unified local church in Ukraine the desire of the “Galician cuckoos” to catholicize the whole country under Uniate banners?
    As for Bender and Co-let introduce the title of Hero of Galicia and all the financial costs of benefits, please, from your budget.
  20. Egoza
    Egoza 17 March 2013 18: 35
    “In Transcarpathia, densely populated by Rusyns, often fluent in Russian, there are enough local opponents of VO Svoboda.
    In addition, the Transcarpathian region, unlike many regions of Western Ukraine, did not hold a single representative of the ultra-nationalist forces in the majority constituencies in the last elections to the Supreme Soviet. "

    And that also says a lot about Rusyns!
  21. O_RUS
    O_RUS 17 March 2013 23: 18
    Quote: Ingvar
    What does everyone want in the Russian Federation?

    ... no ... rather it is not important with whom, the main thing is against Russia
  22. Cherkas
    Cherkas 18 March 2013 10: 58
    Strange, incitement of ethnic hatred in the comments is prohibited, but in the articles it is perceived with a bang. With a slight submission, any Ukrainianophobic text is supported here, and Oles Buzina, who has not been seen here before becoming an authority, write "Oles Buzina's fight" on YouTube - you will see what kind of fruit it is. Your problem is that you are climbing into a foreign country from which you yourself have long ago moved away, changed the language and culture, and you impose and continue the policy of growing. empire, you rewrote Gogol and other writers, there were many bans on the Ukrainian language, just write in the search "ban on the Ukrainian language" and read the facts and check them. Let there be Little Russia - as an analogue of Little and Greater Greece - it only emphasizes that Russia originated on the territory of modern Ukraine and that Hrushevsky and a number of other historians think so is not surprising, read the "History of the Rus". Just look at how the months were called in ancient Russia and compare with the months in Ukrainian and pay attention to the names of the months in Russian (December, January, February, December, january, february). This is a note about the Russian language and culture, and there are many such examples. So please stop posting such provocative articles.
    1. reserve
      reserve 18 March 2013 12: 33
      I agree with you. The site is interesting to read about pieces of iron - aircraft guns, etc. And the articles of Tabachnik or these scumbags only raise the foam of nationalism. Ludt is believed in all Soviet fairy tales, but they don’t want to know the real story. How much dirt has been poured on Rezun, and now Russian historians largely agree with him.
    2. Oidsoldier
      Oidsoldier 18 March 2013 18: 44
      Quote: Cherkas
      With a slight submission, any Ukrainianophobic text is supported here, and Oles Buzina, whom we have not seen before eyes, is becoming an authority, write "Oles Buzina's fight" on youtube - you will see what kind of fruit it is.

      If according to the content of the text of the article, Cherkas, not respected by me, has any counterarguments, then it is true and there are questions to Ukraine as an ideology imposed by force. I do not need to look at O. Buzina to understand that his article makes sense and is useful for reading.
      Quote: Cherkas
      Your problem is that you climb into a country that is alien to you, from which you yourself have long ago estranged yourself, changed your language and culture, and you impose and continue to grow your politics. empires

      Belarusians, Russians and malorosy are one people. The countries where they live cannot be strangers.
      Quote: Cherkas
      you copied Gogol and other writers, there were many bans on the Ukrainian language, just write in the search "ban on the Ukrainian language" and read the facts and check them

      I read the decrees of Valuevsky and Emsky; there is no ban on the Ukrainian language there.
      Quote: Cherkas
      Rus originated on the territory of modern Ukraine and the fact that both Hrushevsky and a number of other historians think so is not surprising, read the "History of the Rus".

      Who argues with this. Only then there was no Ukraine, and "History of the Rus" is a work of art. It would be better to carefully read Hrushevsky's "History of Ukraine-Rus" from the year 1340, where he cites extracts from the primary sources, which speaks of the RUSSIAN princes, the RUSSIAN people, and in his arguments he immediately pisses about the UKRAINIAN princes and the UKRAINIAN people - a schuller from history.
      Quote: Cherkas
      Yes, just look how the months were called in ancient Russia and compare with the months in Ukrainian and pay attention to the name of the months in Russian (December, January, February, December, january, february)

      When the task is to form a separate language from an adverb, words, local dialects and jargon discarded by the development of the main language are selected. Therefore, Ukrainian is so rich in obsolete Slavicism.
      Quote: Cherkas
      This is such a note about the Russian language and culture, and there are many such examples. Therefore, please stop posting such provocative articles.

      The truth may be ugly, but you need to know it. Or do you think it's better to lie?
  23. Cherkas
    Cherkas 19 March 2013 12: 39
    You should always look and know about the person who writes for sure, you can write anything and sometimes only the eyes and actions of a person will tell the truth.
    Specifically, according to the article, I answered. I don’t dare to hope that I can prove something to you, it’s very difficult for people with such a temper and temper to tell and most often they themselves understand everything with time. Now specifically according to your words I answer.
    Imposed Ukraine... The fact that we were one people with a part of the modern Russian Federation is, of course, true, and it is clear that now in the Russian Federation there are many Ukrainians who somehow ended up there. Ukraine is not some very ancient people, these are the same Rus who lived in Chervona Rus and at that time Chervonaia Rus and Muscovy are already separate countries, Muscovy is part of the population of Kievan Rus and the northern principalities, which were mixed with numerous threats Finns. This is history. Therefore, you can tell the Ukrainians that they are Russian, of course, but if the Ukrainians are Russian, then you are no longer completely Russian and you have no right to say anything about the Ukrainian language or Belarusian, because they are more Russian than, in fact, Russian. Ukraine is the name that historically developed to separate Ros. an empire that has become multinational from Russia (Chervonnaya and Belaya), and Great Russia is already from a different, Greek story, this only reflects their understanding of the processes in Russia and the fact that the Muscovites so picked it up - nothing surprising. I repeat, historically, the more correct name is Muscovy.
    As for the Valuevsky decree, not to mention the Emsky one:
    Within 7 years after the publication of the Valuev Circular, a total of 23 Ukrainian books were published - the same number as in 1862 alone. In the words of N. I. Kostomarov, “Little Russian literature ceased to exist in Russia,” and M. P. Drahomanov described this period as an “intermission” in the Ukrainian-Polish movement, which lasted until 1872.
    According to the historian A. I. Miller, the reduction of publications in the Ukrainian language was caused not only by the action of the circular, which did not prohibit fiction and scientific literature, but also by other factors: the closure of the Fundamentals, the exile of one part of Ukrainophiles and the relocation of another part to the Kingdom of Poland . A. I. Miller quoted the polemic words of Drahomanov, who also pointed out, as reasons, the weakness of the Ukrainophilic movement of that time, which turned out to be unable to use even the opportunities that Valuevsky circular left open: liberal trends in Russia. "
    As for the Russian princes and Ukrainian, these are just names, I said before they were called Russian, now Ukrainian. The Germans now are not Prussia and not Nemtsia, but Germany.
    Why do you call the Ukrainian language an adverb?
    Church Slavonic writing, introduced by Cyril and Methodius in 862, was based on the Old Slavonic language, which in turn came from South Slavic dialects.
    Self-name rѹskѹ (-(i) ꙗꙁꙑкъ. The name "Old Russian language" does not mean continuity exclusively with the modern Russian language, but is explained primarily by the self-name of the Eastern Slavs of this period (Russia). Scientific publications on historical Slavic use the terms German. Altrussisch Old East Slavic, Old Ruthenian, Old Rus (s) ian, fr. le vieux russe, in Ukrainian davnoruska mov, belor. Starazhytnaru mov.
    1. Oidsoldier
      Oidsoldier 20 March 2013 00: 30
      Quote: Cherkas
      The fact that we were one people with a part of modern Russia is, of course, true,
      And I think so and understand that it has remained so. But you further draw conclusions about the alleged cross between Muscovites and Finno-Ugric. This is what the "historians" of Svidomo say. The evidence is sucked from the thumb. Geneticists today say otherwise. Confirm that we are one people (I do not give links, you are literate and you will find it yourself)
      Quote: Cherkas
      Ukraine is the name that historically developed to separate Ros. an empire that has become multinational from Russia (Red and White)

      Really? Tell me, when did the term Ukraine appear for the first time? Not Ukraine, namely Ukraine, as the name of the country, and not the lands on the edge.
      Regarding the mentioned decrees, all the same, give the words that confirm precisely the prohibition of the language. These decrees prohibited the importation of subversive literature in the Ukrainian language from abroad. Therefore, the result:
      Quote: Cherkas
      Within 7 years after the publication of the Valuev Circular, a total of 23 Ukrainian books were published - the same number as in 1862 alone. According to N. I. Kostomarov, “Little Russian literature ceased to exist in Russia”
      In the empire itself, only Ukrainophile sectarians were published in the Little Russian dialect, which few supported among the Little Russians and there was no demand for their "creations".
      Quote: Cherkas
      As for the Russian princes and Ukrainian, these are just names, I said before they were called Russian, now Ukrainian
      If we are talking about truth and justice, then this is unacceptable. In any case, not a single Russian prince authorized Grushevsky and Co. to change their nationality.
      Quote: Cherkas
      Why do you call the Ukrainian language an adverb?

      Because it is based on the South Russian dialect, which the wise men remade into mov. Counterquestion. Why do eastern and southern Ukraine speak Russian? My version is because the Poles did not get there in due time.
      1. Cherkas
        Cherkas 20 March 2013 10: 52
        -1 answer to the first thesis
        I will not give an answer to the second and third questions because of self-respect.
        Then why don’t you call the Russian language - it is based on the Novgorod dialect - by the way, this is the answer to the question that Novgorod was similar to the South Russian dialect - no, they were very different from ancient times - read books.
        The closest genealogically to Ukrainian is the Belarusian language (starting from the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries, both languages ​​were partially formed on a common dialect base - in particular, the northern dialect group of the Ukrainian language participated in the formation of the spoken Belarusian language, both peoples by the XNUMXth century had a common written Western Russian language. Do you know when Rzeczpospolita was? And what do you know the word "vaga" in Old Russian?
        It is theoretically possible that the surname Vaga is formed from the name of one of the rivers. (see Vagin). But with the greatest probability, its basis is the ancient Russian (pre-Christian) name Vag, the Word vag, preserved in some Slavic languages, was ambiguous, originally Russian (Slavic). This word meant weight, weight, scales, and also various levers and devices for lifting weights. In a figurative sense, the word vaga denoted respect, value, dignity, from where derivatives are important, important, courageous, courageous, courageous - alternations of ms are constantly found in the roots of Russian words. In ancient documents for 1623, the townsman Vaga Pavel Gavrilov from Gorokhovets is mentioned. He has two names: the old Russian Vaga and the Orthodox Paul. The surname Vagin, formed on behalf of, is quite widespread in different parts of our country.
        My circle of friends with such ignorant people as you do not see any point in discussing at all and I see you cannot prove anything to you, you do not have a knowledge base, you are based on communist propaganda and, by the way, at school and university I did not study history and I can safely name myself self-taught and chose what to read to me. Ukrainian, Belarusian and Russian languages ​​- East Slavic, Ukrainian and Belarusian are similar to 84% -Ukraine and Belarus are the ethnic territories of Russia and the fact that Polish influenced our languages ​​is quite natural, but not at all on the scale as you think, moreover in Poland has a lot of "Russian language" as the Ukrainian language was previously called.
        1. Oidsoldier
          Oidsoldier 20 March 2013 14: 27
          Quote: Cherkas
          Then why don’t you call the Russian language - it is based on the Novgorod dialect - by the way, this is the answer to the question that Novgorod was similar to the South Russian dialect - no, they were very different from ancient times - read books.

          Precisely because I read books, and not articles from the Internet, I dare to argue that Russian is based on the Moscow dialect, and Kostomarov still came to the conclusion about the phonetic similarity of the South Russian and Novgorod dialects. The only thing he studied was the speech of the Little Russians before its "creators" took up MOV. Naturally, Belarusian is close to MOV, tk. Burn the Pospolita and laid its paw on the Belarusians.
          As for "vaga" - where can this word be found in modern Russian? And in Polish and Ukrainian it is present. I dare say that if "vaga" was still used in Russian, it would be quickly removed from Ukrainian and its roots with it, replacing it with something exotic. In general, mova is a political weapon on the side of the separatists. Opponents of the creation of the Little Russian language spoke about this, to which Kostomarov wrote: "They give our business a political character; they see the danger (of a political property) for the unity and integrity of the state in their aspirations for the development of the South Russian language and try to incite public opinion against us, and According to their suspicion, we are secretly striving for separatism and are preparing corruption for Russia, we want an original Little Russian state! " And who was right in the end?
          Give yourself and yourself the answers to the second and third questions.
        2. Oidsoldier
          Oidsoldier 20 March 2013 14: 38
          Regarding this:
          Quote: Cherkas
 ответ на первый тезис

 здесь интересно пишут: "В настоящее время обладатели гаплогруппы R1a1 составляют 70% всего мужского населения России, Украины и Белоруссии, а в старинных русских городах и селениях — до 80%. R1a1 является биологическим маркером русского этноса. Этот набор нуклеотидов и есть «русскость» с точки зрения генетики."
  24. Cherkas
    Cherkas 19 March 2013 12: 39
    Already in the oldest monuments created on the territory of Ukraine, the penetration of the language features characteristic of the dialects that formed the Ukrainian language is manifested [85]. Already in the oldest dated monuments (Izbornik 1073 and 1076) there are substitutions | ѣ | → | and |, | s | → | and |, | in | → | y |. In the future, the number of differences between the phonetic nature and the Church Slavonic language (in the “Galician Gospel”, “The Lives of Sava”, etc.) increases. Common to all East Slavic tribes, the monument "The Word of Igor's Campaign" clearly reveals this penetration. Russian linguist Andrei Zaliznyak noted that in the XI-XII centuries. the Kiev dialect was distinctly different from the Novgorod one. Separation by dialects, dialects occurred between two zones: the North-West (conventionally Novgorod-Pskov) and the Southern, Eastern and Central territories (Kiev, Chernihiv, Ryazan, Smolensk, Rostov and Suzdal).
    At the turn between the XVIII and XIX centuries. a new Ukrainian literary language is emerging, developing on a folk language basis. This transition is noticeable in the works of the famous Ukrainian writer I.P. Kotlyarevsky, who in his work used the best examples of Ukrainian literature of the XNUMXth century. (sideshow, lyrical and satirical verses, burlesque, etc.), while reflecting the distinctive features of contemporary folk speech and folklore.
    As for the influence of the Polish language, its influence on the Ukrainian language is the same as the influence of Ukrainian on Polish. I hope I have given enough examples, but in reality there are more, especially on the oppression of the Ukrainian language.
    True, there is truth, and in this article I saw the print of an illiterate Ukrainophobe and no more.
    1. Oidsoldier
      Oidsoldier 20 March 2013 00: 52
      If I am not mistaken, Kostomarov, studying the Little Russian dialect, pointed to its enormous similarity with the Novgorod dialect. At the same time, there were reforms of the Russian language, where Moscow dialect was taken as a basis, as more melodic. The Russian language was created. It was used by representatives of all branches of the Russian people. But there were figures who worked hard on mova. Mostly in Austria-Hungary in the ridiculous Galicia. Why was this necessary at that time? After all, the Novgorodians did not need a mov.
      Quote: Cherkas
      As for the influence of the Polish language, its influence on the Ukrainian language is the same as the influence of Ukrainian on Polish
      This you tell the Poles. And yourself, if you own a mov, take the trouble to translate any text into Polish and everything will become clear. Almost all words of non-Russian origin are Polish, or originated from the Polish root (vagitna in Ukrainian in Polish w ciąży but vaga -waga, i.e. Ukrainian. Vagitna is a heavy Russian tracing using the Polish word weight).
    2. Oidsoldier
      Oidsoldier 20 March 2013 01: 06
      Quote: Cherkas
      True, there is truth, and in this article I saw the print of an illiterate Ukrainophobe and no more.

      What article are you talking about? Tell the truth about the genocide of the Russian people in Galicia and about the betrayal and meanness of the "Ukrainians" in your opinion, Ukrainophobia. Terezin and Talerhof - fiction? You cannot be carried out on propaganda. You need to ask yourself questions and look for answers to them. What is hammered into the brain in educational institutions is necessary for certain people for their purposes, and a common person, in order not to be used blindly, must soberly and impartially assess the situation.
      1. yormunrex
        yormunrex 22 March 2013 17: 10
        very good article on this topic who is who genocide and who are Rusyns
  25. Setrac
    Setrac 19 March 2013 20: 40
    The Deutsche never called themselves Germans, or Prussians, or Germans. They are Deutsch and their state is Deutschland.
  26. radio operator
    radio operator 26 March 2013 15: 55
    After reading the article, I remembered that Stolypin was going to set aside a Russian enclave as part of Poland, with a Russian governor.
    He understood that Poland would sooner or later withdraw from the Republic of Ingushetia.