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9 May. Holiday without white hair at the temples

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9 May. Holiday without white hair at the temples

... It seems it was in 1995. The situation in the country was not simple: on the one hand, it was necessary to celebrate the 50 anniversary of the Victory, and on the other hand, unlike the current lack of principle, Russia at that time had a clear state ideology: it was what was anti-state. That is, Russia as a nation was supposed to deny itself in every way.


Then political technology power twisted, making a double flip. On the one hand - a holiday spent. On the other hand, he neutralized him as best she could, knocking out her teeth for Victory Day and rolling her limbs into a plaster.

That is, the canceled parade in 1991 was returned - but without military equipment. And since simply armed Russians are also aggressive, a giant poster was hung over Red Square in which the Russian soldier clings to his American ally.

And most importantly - it was then that Victory Day acquired at the official level a forced sentimental-farewell tone. What was expressed in the posters, banners and televistavkakh with the text "With the holiday, dear veterans!" And in the hypertrophied Leshchenko from each iron, reminded that the holiday - "with gray hair at the temples."

All this, apparently, should have signaled by some supervisory authority that Victory Day is temporary. Here the last veteran will die - and everything will calm down.

And such quiet coffins, into which our conscious perception of 9 is trying to pound May, our country’s conscious enemies and irresponsible fools from the enemy’s supply are much more unacceptable to us than the usual bagpipes of freaks-losers about “corpses thrown”, about “detachments” , about "Stalin created Hitler."

One of these coffins, inherited from the 90-x - is expressed in a compassionate tone, "understand, it's still a holiday of veterans."

This mantra is reproduced in various forms. For example, angry: “Enough for us to pour cement with salt on our heads! Buy housing for veterans! ” Or so: “Well, this is a great reason to drank budget money. Shares with the distribution of ribbons, decorations for the holiday, all sorts of nashist efforts to somehow congratulate and litter half the town with someone ... I always say: better give these funds to veterans, this is their holiday. There are very few of them alive. ” Or supposedly respectfully: “Do you feel sorry for money for a holiday for veterans, or stupidly do not understand that for THEM it is very important?”

... But in reality, everything turned out differently. Now, almost twenty years later, it can be stated with confidence: it was not possible to bury 9 May in the past. It turned out quite the opposite.

This is not only about parades that have returned to zero (although when Topol-M drives through Red Square, it is somehow difficult to interpret what is happening in the wake of sentimental memories of the former force).

Speech is about people. Nobody deliberately processed their consciousness — rather the opposite. But now the citizens of our Motherland about 9 May the following opinion: 90% believe that the holiday "Victory Day" belongs to them. Including sure 85% of young people. The opposite opinion (“this is a holiday of veterans”) is mostly held by residents of megacities with no education - but among the social marginals of such idiots a small minority.

Something like this. Probably, it is precisely the unprincipled Putin years when the state abandoned ideology (anti-state, we recall) and gave the people the opportunity to choose their own thanks. historical self-awareness is intuitive and independent.

People - chose. There can be no doubts that the main and only national holiday of the country was 9 May - for example, those who wish can compare, for example, his and 12 of June (which, we recall, is Russia's independence day). Or his and 4 november. Or simply by looking at the riot of St. George ribbons, which the country itself, without "targeted funding", adorns itself in early May.

Why precisely Victory Day? Because every significant nation celebrates its historic feat - best expressing its essence. The American people, while still alive, will celebrate the feat, as a result of which they stopped paying taxes to the metropolis. French - a feat in which he first destroyed his own class system. And the Russian (he is Ukrainian, Belarusian, Kazakh, Armenian, etc.) people celebrate the feat, during which he saved himself with his might from slaughter and slavery and a whole bunch of other nations. And we celebrate our own power. And we will celebrate it while we are with ourselves.

And so all the other holidays of Russian victories - as it were, are drawn into Victory Day. As every Sunday is a small Easter, so each anniversary of the expulsion of the Poles or the French is a small 9 of May. At the same time - only shading large.

Because May 9 is a day of historical accomplishment that makes us a people.

... Today, Victory Day has less gray hair at the temples. We can confidently ascertain: he won death and safely passed to the rank of the eternal. What we congratulate us on, among other things.
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  1. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 12 May 2013 16: 02
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    The people - chose. Doubts that the main and only national holiday of the country was precisely May 9 ...

    I believe that, nevertheless, we should put on the same line and the day of victory in the Patriotic War of the 1812 of the year!
    1. Skuto
      Skuto 12 May 2013 16: 24
      +6
      With all due respect to the heroes of the Patriotic War 1812, especially Kutuzov, Barclay de Tolly, Bagration, Davydov, etc. The 1812 war of the year is to a greater degree the “dismantling of the two sovereigns,” the task was to smash the Russian army as soon as possible and force Alexander to go for unfavorable conditions. But the people did not remain indifferent and broke the foe.
      1. domokl
        domokl 12 May 2013 17: 00
        17
        I do not diminish the Victory in the Patriotic War of 1812 of the year, but ... That war is already a history, long-standing and largely fictitious. And the Great Patriotic War is a war about which every Russian knows from his grandfather who fought, from his father who saw her as a kid, from brother who talked with then still living warriors.
        I agree that today's Victory is already with less gray hair .. And this is bad. It’s bad that gray-haired veterans of the Great Patriotic War, gray-haired Afghans are sitting at the same table with young participants in the Caucasian wars .. It’s bad that we did not provide our sons with the world, they themselves make peace . And it’s good that they can provide this world.
        I am for victory to be with gray hair, so that young people do not know what real, not cinematic war is.
        1. Chicot 1
          Chicot 1 12 May 2013 18: 34
          10
          Quote: domokl
          The Patriotic War of 1812, but ... That war is already history, long-standing and largely fictitious.

          No fictional wars. They are all real. Regardless of whether we all know about them or not all ...

          Quote: domokl
          I do not belittle the victory in the Patriotic War of 1812

          And it is not possible to belittle or belittle. She was. And she was possessed by the strength of Russian weapons and the courage and heroism of the Russian soldier ... As well as 130 years later ...
          1. domokl
            domokl 12 May 2013 19: 47
            +2
            Quote: Chicot 1
            No fictional wars. They are all real. Regardless of whether we all know about them or not all ...

            Alas, I do not want to upset you, but most of the wars are made up. they were, but they have already reached us in a completely perverted form ... The same crusades, or the Mongol invasion of Russia ... Or a closer example, the atomic bomb on Japan, according to the majority of the Japanese, dropped the USSR, and the Americans won the Second World War Europeans ...
            Quote: Chicot 1
            She was. And she was possessed by the power of Russian weapons and the courage and heroism of the Russian soldier ... T

            Again, I do not agree ... How many times I went to the Borodino field I never saw a crowd of young people on excursions ... There is a declaration of victory, but there is almost no knowledge about that war ...
            1. tixon444
              tixon444 12 May 2013 19: 53
              +4
              Quote: domokl
              How many times went to the Borodino field, I never saw a crowd of young people on excursions ... There is a declaration of victory, but there is almost no knowledge of that war ...

              Here you and I need to bring these crowds there. Who if not we?
              1. domokl
                domokl 12 May 2013 20: 42
                +1
                Quote: tixon444

                Here you and I need to bring these crowds there. Who if not we?

                Do you yourself believe that? We ourselves can only educate by personal example. And this is not enough ... We need a state program of patriotic education ... One beautifully held parade (as it was on 9 of May) will do more than our comments here ...
                Americans in any desert hang their flag on the house ... not because they force them, but because they are proud of it. They have been driving them from infancy by all means — you live in the best country in the world ... And with us?
                1. tixon444
                  tixon444 12 May 2013 21: 04
                  +5
                  Quote: domokl
                  Americans in any desert hang out

                  I sent to the Americans. I live in Russia, and my children and grandchildren know what Borodino, Poltava, Kulikovo, Prokhorovskoye and many other fields of military glory are. And if everyone teaches his children and grandchildren, then there will be nothing to lament that, they say, young people don’t know that, they don’t know that.
                  And about our comments: there will be ours - there will be enemies.
                  Quote: domokl
                  Do you yourself believe that?

                  Holy believe!
            2. GreatRussia
              GreatRussia 12 May 2013 19: 56
              +4
              Quote: domokl
              Again, I do not agree ... How many times I went to the Borodino field I never saw a crowd of young people on excursions ... There is a declaration of victory, but there is almost no knowledge about that war ...

              And what follows from this? That you do not agree that:

              She was. And she was possessed by the power of Russian weapons and the courage and heroism of the Russian soldier .. belay


              Quote: domokl

              but there’s almost no knowledge of that war yet ..

              Well, I don’t want this to happen again with knowledge of the Second World War.
              Therefore, it follows that it is vitally important to revive this knowledge, especially regarding such historically significant and great events for Russia.
              1. domokl
                domokl 12 May 2013 20: 39
                0
                Quote: GreatRussia
                Well, I don’t want this to happen again with knowledge of the Second World War.
                But after all, what you say in your comments is not about what I would like to ... You say that it is ... I'm just a realist and used to not use the subjunctive mood ..
                Measures should be taken soberly assessing the situation, and not speak with slogans ..
                1. GreatRussia
                  GreatRussia 12 May 2013 20: 46
                  +2
                  Quote: domokl
                  But after all, what you say in your comments is not about what I would like to ... You say that it is ... I'm just a realist and used to not use the subjunctive mood ..
                  Measures should be taken soberly assessing the situation, and not speak with slogans ..

                  I know a lot of young people who know about the Second World War only from modern "film masterpieces" a la "
                  Penalty Battalion or Saving Private Ryan.
                  Well?
    2. starshina78
      starshina78 12 May 2013 17: 54
      11
      We can agree that we should also celebrate the day of the defeat of the dogs - knights on Lake Peipsi by Alexander Nevsky, the capture of Izmail A.V. Suvorov, and so on. Our entire history is replete with both successes in military affairs and failures. Why is it the Victory Day in the war against the German fascist invaders that is celebrated publicly? Yes, because the participants in this war are still alive, that in no war before this did the state (USSR) have so many victims that it was in this war that the people stood up as one to defend the Fatherland, at the front and in the rear. that this war affected every family, that every family has its own hero, killed or missing, tortured in concentration camps or stolen to work in Germany, killed in the rear from a bombing raid or died in the workplace from overstrain, shot for assisting partisans or simply caught in a raid. Thank God ! That young people do not give in to the words of those who call not to celebrate Victory Day, that young people take part in actions dedicated to the war. It's one thing when the state is engaged in patriotic work among young people, but this is also our business. At least at the family level, so that our children and grandchildren know what troubles the war has brought, about the exploits of soldiers, about battles, about work in the rear. On Victory Day, I said to my eldest granddaughter: "Can you now, when you are fourteen years old, go to another city, live in a hostel, work 10-12 hours in a steel shop as a molder, like your great-grandmother?" She looked at me and did not answer, and then thoughtfully said: "No! I can't do anything, and I'm afraid!" Modern children are smart, they quickly understand computers, smartphones, they know more than their great-grandmothers and great-grandfathers at the same age , but at the same time they are helpless, in comparison with them, none of them is ready to commit acts. And yet, I think, the veterans will leave, our generation who lived with the veterans and listened to their stories will leave, Victory Day will always be celebrated in Russia, it cannot be otherwise.
      1. taseka
        taseka 12 May 2013 19: 11
        +4
        Quote: starshina78
        We can so agree that it is necessary to celebrate the day of the defeat of dogs - knights on Lake Peipsi by Alexander Nevsky, the capture of Izmail A.V. Suvorov, and so on

        And what bad do you see in this? By the way, the events you listed by law in Russia are days of their military prowess and must be celebrated, glorifying the feat of our ancestors!
        Against this background, I will not say anything about the Brazilian 47 festivals (and celebrate nothing to the fullest!)
      2. domokl
        domokl 12 May 2013 19: 54
        +6
        Quote: starshina78
        but at the same time they are helpless, in comparison with them, none of them is ready to commit acts.
        I heard about the same words from male front-line soldiers in 1981 before my first trip to Afghanistan. And about the fact that the cat is thin among young people and much more ...
        Only these same ones who fought with the small intestine and accomplished feats in the same way as their grandfathers in the Second World War ... So I don’t think that the Russian spirit in our youth has disappeared ... We are victorious in spirit. Even when we retreat.
      3. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 12 May 2013 20: 25
        +2
        Quote: starshina78
        We can so agree that it is necessary to celebrate the day of the defeat of dogs - knights on Lake Peipsi by Alexander Nevsky, the capture of Izmail A.V. Suvorov, and so on

        Moreover, there are separate battles and victory in DOMESTIC WAR 1812?
    3. de klermon
      de klermon 12 May 2013 19: 12
      +3
      In 1812, it was about political requirements, though not very definite, by and large, for Napoleon before the battle of Smolensk, the meaning of the war was to force friendship and alliance, but ... The national war became after the burned Smolensk, the heroism of Borodin, the victim of Moscow. .. And even so, we must not forget that the war for the survival and future of all mankind cannot be compared with the war for political goals!
      In 1945 we won the war for the right to live in general, and in 1812 - for the right to live in a certain way !!!
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 12 May 2013 20: 38
        +2
        Quote: de Klermon
        In 1812, it was about political requirements, though not very specific, by and large for Napoleon ....


        No less distinctly Napoleon formulated the goals of his wars in January 1814. in a speech to the senators when he was already on the eve of the fall.
        “I’m not afraid to admit that I fought too much; I made huge plans I wanted to ensure France’s rule over the whole world. ”. This was said to the senators whom Napoleon sent to bypass France in order to mobilize the last forces. Thus, Napoleon’s plans were aggressive and in this sense of the word - imperialistic.
        Napoleon's plans corresponded to the interests of the French big bourgeoisie. And the big French bourgeoisie sought to capture European and world markets, to oust England from them, TO THE WORK OF RUSSIA.

        I. V. Kuznetsov, V. I. Lebedev. A manual for teachers "HISTORY of the USSR. XVIII - mid XIX centuries".
        Uchpedgiz. Moscow, 1958
        http://www.detskiysad.ru/raznlit/istoria052.html
    4. Rus2012
      Rus2012 12 May 2013 21: 28
      +2
      Quote: GreatRussia
      I believe that, nevertheless, we should put on the same line and the day of victory in the Patriotic War of the 1812 of the year!


      The Enemy Geset mk.ru: It is impossible to imagine that sixty to seventy years after the victory over Napoleon, society would still revere the participants in that war.

      Meanwhile, in 1912, the Russian public, led by the Tsar, widely celebrated the 100 years of the Battle of Borodino ...
      Moreover, there were many participants in this battle !!!
      From Wiki -
      In preparation for the celebration of the 100 anniversary of the battle of Borodino throughout the Russian Empire, a circular was sent out, which was instructed to find the living participants in the great battle. As a result, such a person was found in Yalutorovsk in the Tobolsk province - Pavel Yakovlevich Tolstoguzov. In 1912, the alleged participant in the battle of Borodino was an 117-year-old man, he saw and heard poorly, but at the same time, according to contemporaries, he was “quite peppy.” He was photographed by a specially sent photographer - in the photo next to him is his 80-year-old wife
      And more about the celebration - http://magazines.russ.ru/october/2012/9/h10.html

      At the end of the parade, Daria Nikolaevna and I found ourselves in front of a small house, at the porch of which the Tsar talked with four hundred-year-old elders. One of them seemed to be 120 years old, and he was an eyewitness to Napoleon's invasion. I did not hear the conversation itself ... ”(Aksakova TA“ Family Chronicle ”. M.: 2005).

      There are several evidences about the meeting of the emperor with the veterans of the Borodino battle and eyewitnesses of the Patriotic War of 1812. In particular, in the diary of Nicholas II and the memoirs of Aksakova, it seems, it is a question of the same ancient veteran. It was the retired sergeant major of the 53-th Volyn infantry regiment Akim Bentenyuk, one hundred twenty-two years old, who lived at that time in Chisinau. He was very talkative.

      Dzhunkovsky, who was responsible for organizing the anniversary celebrations, wrote the following about veterans:

      “For the most part they remembered little and gave rather vague testimonies. Akim Bentenyuk, the eldest of them and a participant in the Borodino battle, was the most talkative, he talked about his participation in the battle, how he was wounded, and even pointed to a bush, which he “shunned”. When he told the Tsar, the Tsar could not help smiling.

      Another eyewitness said that he had seen Napoleon, and when asked what he seemed to him, he replied: “Such a good fellow, oblique fathom in the shoulders, beards in which” - and pointed to the belt. In addition to these veterans, came to Moscow: a peasant of the Vitebsk province, Stepan Zhuk, 110 years old, an eyewitness to the Patriotic War, and a peasant village of Podbereznaya Rozhdestvensky volost of the Bronnitsky district of Moscow province, Maria Zheltyakova, 110 years. These veterans and eyewitnesses of the war were surrounded by special attention. The best rooms were allotted to them everywhere, they had special crews, and during the festivities they were given honorable places. ”
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 12 May 2013 21: 33
        +5
        Source - http://home-for-heroes.livejournal.com/127569.html

        Princes John Konstantinovich (right) and Gabriel Konstantinovich talk with eyewitnesses of the Patriotic War of 1812 of the year at the building of the House of Disabled. Among them (from left to right): Akim Voitnyuk, Petr Laptev, Stepan Zhuk, Gordey Gromov, Maxim Pyatachenkov. Borodino, 26 August 1912 year
        Moreover, the participating people stand, respecting the age of the elders ...
    5. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 13 May 2013 05: 42
      +1
      Well, they do not like us, this is a common truth. But they are very afraid, too, truth. The whole world is looking at Russia (we will surrender (Assad)), or where?. This is not just politics, but also the arms business. The whole world is watching. " We will surrender "-hana, but ours will not admit. Then, everyone p .......!.
  2. crest 57
    crest 57 12 May 2013 16: 25
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    Now, as one of the blows to the Russian people, in his memory, in his very Holy Holiday of May 9, de-Stalinization is used - the blackening of the name of Stalin, an attempt to compare it with Satan. Unfortunately, this can often be heard from modern church people.

    BUT!!!

    Day May 9, 1945 fell on Easter week. Easter is the victory of life over death. Many Orthodox religious leaders of that time compared the Red Army with the army of Christ, which is fighting a battle with hellish hordes.
    Question.
    How can the minister of hell, as Stalin is now officially presented, lead the army of Christ ?!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 12 May 2013 16: 39
      15
      Quote: crest 57
      the blackening of the name of Stalin, an attempt to compare it with Satan. Unfortunately, this can often be heard from modern church people.

      Quote: crest 57
      How can the minister of hell, as Stalin is now officially presented, lead the army of Christ ?!

      This position is taken either by not-so-clever churchmen, or those who strongly support the policy of secular authorities. Clever and sincere, they have long said that I.V. Stalin was an instrument of God, a punishing sword ... and this was no longer during his lifetime, but in the 80s. He who has ears, let him hear!
      1. does it
        does it 12 May 2013 20: 37
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        Clever and sincere, they have long said that I.V. Stalin was an instrument of God, a punishing sword ... and this was no longer during his lifetime, but in the 80s. He who has ears, let him hear!

        No wonder the allies of the anti-Hitler coalitions called him the Hun Attila.
    2. Melchakov
      Melchakov 12 May 2013 16: 41
      +5
      Quote: crest 57
      for easter week

      With tongue removed. Easter in that year on May 6 came, and even on the day of memory of St. George the Victorious .. As they say, God himself commanded.
      1. Atlon
        Atlon 12 May 2013 16: 49
        0
        Quote: Melchakov
        Easter in that year on May 6 came, if I am not mistaken.

        Feeling on the 5th. But in general, not the point.
    3. domokl
      domokl 12 May 2013 17: 06
      +4
      Quote: crest 57
      Now, as one of the blows to the Russian people, in his memory, in his very Holy Holiday 9 of May, de-Stalinization is used - the blackening of the name of Stalin
      Your comment would have been relevant several years ago. In Russia, the question of Stalin has not been an acute issue for a long time. There are some scribblers and talkers, but nothing more.
      We are on the path to recovery. Stalin is now not a monster and not God .. He is a man with the inherent advantages and disadvantages of man ..
      1. crest 57
        crest 57 12 May 2013 17: 27
        +3
        Somewhat disagree.
        The relevance of this issue will remain for a very long time.
        Each subsequent generation will ask him and represent in the end Stalin in the form of either God or a monster.
        By the way, why during the parades on May 9 in recent years, the Lenin Mausoleum has been closed? Indeed, the culmination of the Victory Parade of 1945 was precisely the throwing of fascist banners at the foot of the mausoleum. This, it seems to me, is another attempt to distort the understanding of history by future generations.
        1. Melchakov
          Melchakov 12 May 2013 17: 35
          -2
          Quote: crest 57
          Lenin

          And why do we love this Lenin? Maybe for betraying the country at the most difficult moment for her? Maybe for our victims in WWI, which became meaningless? Maybe for the moral decay of the army, carried out by Bolshevik agents? Maybe for famine, terror, repression, as a result of which a total of 20 million people died. Maybe for the shooting of the royal family? Maybe for the separatism and intervention that began after the weakening of the central government? Maybe for the complete destruction of the economy and the national economy? Maybe for the NEP, when they returned to what they destroyed for 5 years, when the country lived only at the expense of foreign investments, and gold was massively sent abroad? Maybe for the struggle for the rights of small peoples? No, this is, of course, a good and necessary thing (after all, Tsarist Russia is a "prison of nations"), but for some reason most of all, as a result of this struggle, most of the indigenous population suffered. And also sponsorship from abroad, an alliance with the liberals in the overthrow of the tsarist government and the decomposition of society and the army. And about the fact that there were almost no Russians among the revolutionaries and there is nothing to say. The fact that Russia (USSR) began to restore .. (no, not to restore, but to revive) only under Stalin, modern liberal Trotskyists (fascists), dreaming of a new revolution in Russia and the destruction of everything old, for some reason are silent about this ...
          1. crest 57
            crest 57 12 May 2013 18: 18
            +5
            If you can, find on the Internet (well, or at least imagine) the political map of Russia at the time of February - April 1917, with all sorts of Ural, Cossack, Donetsk-Krivorozhsky, West, East Ukrainian, Far Eastern and other republics and a map of the USSR at the time 1924 (in February - April 1917, nobody really knew about Lenin, 1924 was the year of Lenin’s death). Just compare these two cards.
            Further. Read Denikin’s remarks in which he denies that the Bolsheviks were destroying the army.
            And finally. Fascist banners at the foot of the mausoleum were thrown by our grandfathers-winners. They decided so and determined for themselves the role of the history preceding them. So, we should respect their choice, and not bashfully garland our history.
          2. finderektor
            finderektor 12 May 2013 18: 26
            0
            Let's kiss the humpbacked in all places.
        2. domokl
          domokl 12 May 2013 20: 00
          +1
          Quote: crest 57
          Each subsequent generation will ask him and represent in the end Stalin in the form of either God or a monster.

          lol Are you really bothering with the personality of Ivan the Terrible? Or the fate of the princes Boris and Gleb? In many ways, the problem of Stalin-Lenin is ours ... today ... They’re just a bargaining chip .. and a hundred or two hundred years will pass and they’ll probably get some kind of title, such as Great or Terrible ..
          Peter, with his attitude towards Russia, with his attitude towards the Russian people, received the title of Great ... and everyone now agrees with this ... Great to see from a distance
      2. RUS
        RUS 12 May 2013 17: 42
        -3
        Or can Stalin canonize?
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          1. Melchakov
            Melchakov 12 May 2013 17: 55
            +8
            Quote: NO HOPE
            red-headed monkeys inhabiting the open spaces of the post-scoop.

            Oh-pa. Look. New clone. How many times have you, troll-liberal muzzle, already registered? And what are you, blue-assed? And where do you live? In "tolerant" Baltic states, or democratic Georgia, or in Free Galicia? Go teach lessons, first of all history and social studies.
            Z.Y. I have never allowed myself such a tone, but ... here the case ... is special ... clinical, so to speak. Why am I bringing a blizzard here, stopping, in general, this citizen (and not only) of me.
            1. MG42
              MG42 12 May 2013 18: 06
              +1
              Do not feed the "yellow pancake", ignore it, if you completely got a minus and that's it.
            2. lewerlin53rus
              lewerlin53rus 12 May 2013 21: 56
              0
              Quote: Melchakov
              Oh pa Take a look. New clone. How many times have you, troll-liberal face, already registered?

              His energy and perseverance would be for peaceful purposes. Needles, for example, to clean. Indeed, he is the hypostasis.
        2. stranik72
          stranik72 12 May 2013 19: 00
          +3
          Stalin, and without canonization, the Great, in spite of everything, such the history of the country and the people will remember, he was the Winner and no matter how many LADIES with his comrades, he did not try to denigrate his role in the history of the country, he will remain the Winner.
        3. Egoza
          Egoza 12 May 2013 19: 42
          +3
          Quote: RUS
          Or can Stalin canonize?

          Well, do not canonize, but his portraits on Victory Day - hanging MANDATORY!
          1. domokl
            domokl 12 May 2013 20: 06
            +1
            Quote: Egoza
            his portraits on Victory Day - hanging MANDATORY!
            And why only him? And warlords of the Great Patriotic War, and Heroes of the USSR, knights of the Order of Glory? You don’t need to highlight, but don’t forget ... You just need to remember and pay tribute to his talent as a leader, his will and, ultimately, the country's victory which he led
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 12 May 2013 20: 11
              +2
              Quote: domokl
              And warlords of the Second World War, and Heroes of the USSR, gentlemen of the orders of Glory?

              But didn’t you even hang these portraits? belay I thought that only about I.V. Stalin was "forgotten" request
              1. domokl
                domokl 12 May 2013 20: 15
                +1
                Quote: Egoza
                I thought that only about I.V. Stalin was "forgotten"
                Our mayors now have in their head a simple, by the way supported by many even on this site, the people won the thought-war .. So you need a photo of the people and hang out ..
                1. tixon444
                  tixon444 12 May 2013 20: 44
                  +1
                  Quote: domokl
                  . So you need a photo of the people and hang out ..

                  Photos of the people in our houses hang, and no one is forgotten, nothing is forgotten. Amen.
    4. RUS
      RUS 12 May 2013 18: 06
      -8
      Stalin is like a two-faced Janus, then he blows up the churches and shoots the priests, then he "orders" a prayer service and a flight around Moscow of an airplane with an icon in the 41st. He is the father of all nations and at the same time exiles entire nations to Central Asia and Siberia. Half of the country sat in camps, ranging from scientists in sharashkas and army officers to peasants sitting at spikelets, well, this is not him either, this is Yagoda, Ezhev, Beria, etc.
      The Soviet people, the Red Army, won the war, not Stalin, with his failed military strategy, especially in the first years of the war, but about disbelief to the last about the impending war, this is generally a crime, our intelligence just "shouted" about it, how many could lives be saved?
      1. crest 57
        crest 57 12 May 2013 18: 28
        +5
        Well, yes, personally shot and blown up.
        Representatives of the peoples exiled to Siberia and Kazakhstan distinguished themselves "quite well" during the occupation.
        And yet, the orders of the Supreme during the war are carried out quickly, clearly and with pleasure. Only in this way can the army and the country achieve victory.
        And I got it.
        1. dmb
          dmb 12 May 2013 19: 50
          +2
          Hitler did not personally shoot anyone either. Anticipating the outraged cries, I repeat, the current government is stubbornly trying to equalize fascism and communism. And for this he uses all the mistakes, and sometimes the crimes of the same Stalin. Judging by the comment of Mr. Melchakov. the government fully achieves its goals. (For information, I can tell you that the current Guarantor called Stalin the criminal). Now for the eviction. I have a bigger score for the Chechen "brothers" than yours, but the whole people cannot be responsible for their scum, even if they make up a large part of it. Another question is whether Stalin, being in those conditions, could have acted differently. I think no. There was a war going on, and keeping combat-ready divisions in the rear was too expensive to suppress realistically possible band insurrections. Given the mentality. the bandits and saboteurs really counted on the help of the local population, but they were actually deprived of this help. I might not dwell on your comment, but you wrote it in response to the RUS comment, and you have not refuted a single argument. Yes, Stalin was not in charge of the Western District, but he appointed Pavlov to him. The leader of the state is responsible for everything. Or he is not a leader. You have no doubts that not only Gorbachev is to blame for the collapse of the Union, but he is remembered first of all. Actually, the feat of my writing is not so much your quite sensible answer to Melchakov, as a striking discrepancy to this answer of the commentary to RUS.
          1. domokl
            domokl 12 May 2013 20: 47
            +2
            Quote: dmb
            the current government is stubbornly trying to balance fascism and communism.

            Comrade, are you otkedova? What kind of power is this? If you are talking about Russia, then on the contrary, we are fighting this infection spread by the West .. And if you are from the West, you should solve problems there, and not in Russia ..
            1. dmb
              dmb 12 May 2013 21: 39
              +2
              Well, where am I from? And the phrase about the Stalinist camps on state television during the minute in memory of the victims of fascism. it is finite not from power. And the enlistment of Stalin without criminals as criminals by the Head of State is also not from the current government. And the school curriculum in literature, where Solzhenitsyn is and there is no Simonov, is also not power. Before you hang up labels, you should sometimes think.
      2. stranik72
        stranik72 12 May 2013 19: 14
        +7
        RUS
        "There is a well-known definition of Prof. Lopatnikov: an anti-Stalinist is either a scoundrel or a cheat. For all the categorical and harshness of this statement, perhaps one should agree with him. As many as I have not met in my life and networks of anti-Stalinists, they are usually depressingly monotonous. In ordinary life, they can be all sorts: smart and not very successful, successful and unsuccessful, professionals in their field or militant amateurs, but as soon as it comes to M-Stalin, they instantly become stupid.
        And in this stupidity of theirs they are strikingly the same. Instead of a balanced approach, analysis, collection and comprehension of information, an attempt to understand the opponent’s point of view and arguments, a standard set of cliches about the "mustachioed killer", about many millions of tortured, about "Hitler and Stalin - is the same thing, only Stalin is worse" and so on etc., etc. And the arguments are standard, from references to bullies and cheaters such as Rezun or Sokolov there, ignorant and simply low-witted Svanidze and Mlechin (however, I do not exclude that the illiteracy and unreasonability of these Messrs. Comes from their hatred of Comrade Stalin, when this very hatred disables the ability to think and reason) to thin. the literature of Solzhenitsyn and Shalamov. At the same time, which is characteristic, people are not ashamed to show their ignorance repeatedly
        exposed lies (and even at the official level) are still passed off as the ultimate truth. "
      3. domokl
        domokl 12 May 2013 20: 12
        +2
        Quote: RUS
        . Half the country was in camps,
        I won’t argue about the numbers. Half, three quarters, or how much more ... Just ask a question, did your family have half of the country? Not your aunt’s uncle’s uncle, but from your grandfathers?
        If you noticed, now even ardent anti-Stalinists do not mention the numbers of the repressed ... It’s just what Khrushchev betrayed, and then our freedom fighters increased their complete nonsense
      4. antidote
        antidote 13 May 2013 09: 40
        0
        Denying the role of the individual in history is simply stupid. There would be no Napoleon - there would be no war of 1812. There would be no Yermak - the conquest of Siberia began much later and it is still unknown if Siberia would be behind Russia.
        To deny the role of the Supreme during the war is to pour water on the millstones of liberals
  3. treskoed
    treskoed 12 May 2013 16: 33
    +2
    Because May 9 is a day of historical accomplishment that makes us a people.

    It was the PEOPLE who achieved this holiday! I really want my people to have holidays too! And not only with tears in his eyes!
  4. Nick
    Nick 12 May 2013 16: 38
    +5
    Victory Day will remain with us forever!
  5. wax
    wax 12 May 2013 16: 54
    +2
    In the XX century, this is the only convincing victory of the forces of good, personified by the USSR, over the forces of evil, personified by Germany. This circumstance makes our Victory a world-historic achievement, the significance of which will only grow with time. And our parades can guarantee it!
  6. Atlon
    Atlon 12 May 2013 16: 56
    +5
    Several quotes given in the article only confirm the rule: there is a black sheep in the family. And this holiday will be significant for centuries, until WE ourselves forget it. I hope this does not happen. And even when the last veteran is gone, we will not stop celebrating it in a big way and with pride. And all the miserable marginal individuals, let them say ... We go to their talking shop - ugh, and grind! The only thing that upset was, as always, our TV ... SO MANY frankly weak, harmful and idiotic films about the war were gone for a long time, simultaneously on all channels. There was absolutely nothing to see during the holidays! But there are: "The Living and the Dead", "They Fought for the Motherland", "Battle for Moscow", "Hot Snow" and many other just excellent films about the war of the Soviet period ... And they showed ... Ugh!
  7. MG42
    MG42 12 May 2013 16: 59
    +3
    Victory Day is temporary. Here the last veteran will die - and everything will cease.

    Every year the veterans of the Second World War become less and less for them already in 80 years (they are the bearers of truth) ... it is important that the truth about the war is not distorted by the substitution of fantastic series on a war-related topic that have flooded television broadcast recently, history books have not been rewritten in Ukraine or even Victory Day did not try to turn into a day of mourning, as the city authorities do in Lviv by hanging state. flags with mourning ribbons that day.
    1. Kaa
      Kaa 12 May 2013 17: 06
      +4
      Quote: MG42
      or they didn’t try to turn Victory Day into a day of mourning, as the city authorities in Lviv do
      As Ukrainian media reported on May 10, the prosecutor's office of the Ternopil region. a criminal offense has been launched on the grounds of the criminal offense provided for in Part-2 of the Stat.296th Criminal Code of Ukraine.

      Law enforcers note that on May XNUMX in Ternopol, a group of people, among whom there were deputies, prevented participants in the event in honor of Victory Day from going to the central alley of the Glory Park, where the Eternal Flame is located, to lay flowers and hold a meeting.

      One of the people's deputies during the incident in Ternopol threw pyrotechnic equipment (approx. Smoke bomb), which he had prepared in advance, at the participants in the event and police officers.

      As a result, a brawl arose, whose video frames circled the world, entering the daily TOP of YouTube video service views, as previously reported by the Market Leader. TOP Youtube video: fight IN Liberty and the police in Ternopol. Several people were detained, but were soon released.

      The Ternopil Regional Prosecutor’s Office notes that criminal proceedings have been launched on the facts of yesterday’s events. The culprits of the incident face imprisonment for up to 4 years or restriction of freedom for up to 5 years.
      The “Market Leader” previously reported that an obstacle unexpectedly arose in the way of the participants in the event in honor of Victory Day in Ternopol in the form of a public reception of one of the deputies of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine. About a hundred people gathered around the reception, apparently, the voters of this deputy, who did not allow the participants in the festive event to go to the Eternal Flame. They managed to break through the cordon only after the intervention of law enforcement officers. The breakthrough was accompanied by a brawl. Http://www.profi-forex.org/novosti-mira/novosti-sng/ukraine/entry1008
      163318.html
      1. MG42
        MG42 12 May 2013 17: 17
        +4
        And what can you expect from Ternopil? This is the second stronghold after Lvov where "freedom" has dug in.
        1. Kaa
          Kaa 12 May 2013 17: 39
          +7
          Quote: MG42
          This is the second stronghold after Lvov where "freedom" has dug in.
          I would even say the first one, in 2009 they seized the vast majority in their city council, and in Lviv - in 2011, with their current mayor Sadovy, children’s graters went longer. The positive thing is that not only in Zaporozhye we are prosecuting criminal cases against them ... for now.
          1. MG42
            MG42 12 May 2013 18: 11
            +6
            The head of the Kharkiv Regional State Administration, Mikhail Dobkin, intends to appeal to the Polish Seim with a proposal to draw up a list of supporters of the OUN-UPA ideas and prohibit them from entering the EU. He wrote about this on his Twitter page. "I will send an appeal to the Polish Seim with a proposal to draw up a list of" Bandera-Shukhevych "and not allow those who preach the ideas of fascism into the EU," Dobkin wrote.
            Recall that in the Sejm of Poland on April 11, 2013, a draft resolution was registered on recognizing the OUN-UPA as criminal organizations that committed genocide against the Polish population of Eastern Kresiv in 1939-1947.
            http://ru.tsn.ua/politika/dobkin-ne-hochet-chtoby-polsha-puskala-v-es-storonniko
            v-oun-upa-302173.html
            1. Kaa
              Kaa 12 May 2013 18: 46
              +4
              Quote: MG42
              registered draft resolution on recognition of the OUN-UPA as criminal organizations,
              ... and also expressed concern about the revelry of their ideological heirs: ".The draft resolution proposes to recognize the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, SS-Galicia and the Ukrainian police in the German service as criminal organizations. It is noted that the entire Ukrainian people are not accused of this crime of genocide, but only the indicated political and armed groups.In connection with the celebration of the 70th anniversary of the genocide committed by the armed groups of Ukrainian nationalists regarding the Polish population of Eastern Kresiv II Rzeczpospolita Sejm RP: 1. It pays tribute to the citizens of the Second Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, killed by Ukrainian nationalists, and sets July 11 as the Day of Remembrance for the Victims of the Genocide Committed by the OUN-UPA of the Eastern Regions of the Second Commonwealth. 2. Condemns the genocide against the Polish population, committed by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army and other groups of Ukrainian nationalists in 1939-1947, which, equally in the light of international law, is not subject to the statute of limitations. 3. Pays tribute to the members of the Home Army, Cross Self-Defense and the Khlopsky battalions, who fought a dramatic, unequal struggle in the defense of the Polish civilian population. 4. Recognizes the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, SS-Galicia and the Ukrainian police in the German service as criminal organizations. The Sejm of the Republic of Poland declares that the Ukrainian people are not accused of the crime of this genocide, but only the indicated political and armed groups.5. Pays tribute to those Ukrainians who assisted their Polish neighbors or refused to participate in the crime.
              The 70th anniversary of the genocide committed by the OUN-UPA formations regarding the Polish population of East Kresiv once again recalls these tragic events in the life of the Polish and international public.In recent years, we have seen an unprecedented development in Western Ukraine of the cult of Stepan Bandera and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army.With the complete silence of the authorities in Kiev and Warsaw, monuments to Stepan Bandera and other leaders of the OUN appear in Ukrainian cities, streets and squares are named after them, marches are held that glorify "heroism" of the UPA, publications are issued, they deny the participation of the UPA in the murders of Poles. The growing role of the Svoboda party on the Ukrainian political scene, which directly imposes the ideology and traditions of the OUN-UPA. Silence about the criminal traditions of the OUN-UPA, as well as the activities her heirs, is a manifestation of myopia and allows the spread of lies. One cannot ignore the fact that OUN was a member of a fascist international organization with a cell in Stuttgart.It should also be remembered that every third victim of the Bandera genocide was honest Ukrainians (and a large percentage of them are members of mixed Polish-Ukrainian marriages), "says the resolution submitted by the Peasant Party of Poland. Http://polemika.com.ua /news-115870.html
          2. sichevik
            sichevik 12 May 2013 20: 17
            +2
            What can I say? In a word - DEBILS GREAT.
            What taxes do they pay? All these Banderstat areas are subsidized. they don’t produce horseradish. Two-thirds of the population clean toilets or, at best, fuel bourgeois cars in geyrops. They are fed east, southeast and the center of Ukraine, where all Ukrainian industry is concentrated.
            And these areas need to be separated from Ukraine for a couple of years and give the Nazis full power. The common people of these idiots will smother in a year ...
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  9. tixon444
    tixon444 12 May 2013 18: 16
    +3
    Quote: GreatRussia

    The people - chose. Doubts that the main and only national holiday of the country was precisely May 9 ...

    I believe that, nevertheless, we should put on the same line and the day of victory in the Patriotic War of the 1812 of the year!

    I subscribe! September 7 and 8 is the Day of the Battle of Borodino and the Battle of Kulikovo and should be a national holiday - Independence Day, and not June 12, 1991, the day EBN is elected president.
    1. Skuto
      Skuto 12 May 2013 23: 21
      +1
      Independence Day of Russia - became just the Day of Russia, that I somehow more clearly and not so harms the ears. Who is dependent on the USSR? Ridiculous.
      However, I consider the day of the Kulikovo battle to be Independence Day, I consider it stupid and historically incorrect. First, from whom independence? Mamai is not the Khan of the Golden Horde, but only the leader of one of the groups and, in fact, a rival to the legitimate power of the “Chingizids”. By analogy, as if on the USSR, it was not Hitler and Germany who attacked, but the SS army.
      Secondly, relations with the Horde as a whole can hardly be called yoke and enslavement. The horde did more for the unity of Russia than other great princes, because the horde needed one person (and not a hundred) - from whom it would be possible to take a tribute, which contributed to centripetal movements. In other words, the Mongols did not climb with their charter into a strange monastery, the banal relations of late feudalism: vassal - overlord.
      1. tixon444
        tixon444 12 May 2013 23: 33
        +1
        Quote: Skuto
        . By analogy, as if the USSR were attacked not by Hitler with Germany, but by the SS army

        According to your logic, it turns out that if Hitler himself headed, for example, the Army Group Center, then how would Mamai not be considered to have infringed on our independence? Is that the point? At that time, the scattered Russian principalities were still dependent on the Golden Horde, and Mamai's campaign against Moscow was started by the Horde in order to tighten the nuts. Prince Dmitry Donskoy defeated Mamai, but even after this victory, the Russian principalities were still each to some extent dependent on the Horde.
        There are great milestones in the history of Russia. And the Battle of Kulikovo, despite all sorts of Fomenko-Nosov’s, cannot but be the event that determined the further development of Russian statehood. Denying this is stupid.
  10. individual
    individual 12 May 2013 18: 42
    +1
    We are again discussing the results of the Great Victory in the Great Patriotic War.
    Impurity again and again reminds of itself. Our task is to put them into oblivion, and not to advertise their essence to Judas. Iscariot left his mark on biblical narratives and buddha, enough.
    The Russian people won and the point.
  11. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 12 May 2013 19: 16
    +1
    Our National Idea should be: preserving and increasing the strength of Russia. The history of Russia, Victory Day on May 9 shows that our ancestors carried this holy idea through the centuries! In Georgia, Ukraine, Moldova, forces are rising against Victory, against Russia. They educate our home-grown "reformers", spank articles with "revelations". By the way, there are a lot of them on the pages of VO. Russia single-handedly fights the Western (USA) falsifiers of the history of World War II
  12. Alexan
    Alexan 12 May 2013 19: 21
    +2
    This afternoon, in Kiev on Saperno-Slobodskaya Street, the T-34 tank, which took part in the reconstruction of military events of the Great Patriotic War in the village of Pirogovo, made a collision with a German-made Opel-Vectra car.
    Read more here: http://www.unian.net/news/570215-v-kieve-v-nemetskiy-opel-vrezalsya-sovetskiy-ta
    nk-t-34.html

    Maybe a curiosity, or maybe a sign?
  13. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 12 May 2013 19: 21
    +3
    THE MAIN NATIONAL HOLIDAY OF RUSSIA - 9 MAY!
  14. SlavaP
    SlavaP 12 May 2013 20: 33
    +2
    Indeed, May 9 should become the main national holiday, not only Victory Day but also Day of National Pride (in fact, it has already become spontaneous). In addition, on this day, it is worth remembering the Patriotic 1812 and Alexander Nevsky and everyone else (who was and, unfortunately, who else will be).
    In Britain, the day of the end of World 1 — November 11 — is the memorial day of all fallen soldiers (in 11-00 that day is the Minute of Silence).
    And yet - wrote already 7 of May - for denying or distorting the Victory - criminal punishment without options.
  15. Net
    Net 12 May 2013 20: 43
    +1
    September 9 is the Day of Remembrance of Russian soldiers who fell during the defense of Sevastopol and in the Crimean War of 1853-1856.
    One phrase by Pavel Stepanovich Nakhimov was remembered ... “When the head of one of the bastions, when the admiral visited his unit, reported to him that the British had laid a battery that would hit the bastion in the rear, Nakhimov replied:“ Don’t worry, we will all stay here! “”
    We need to remember such heroic moments, and then even in the most difficult moments of the Fatherland, we can answer in the same way.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 12 May 2013 20: 55
      +1
      "I remember one phrase of Pavel Stepanovich Nakhimov .."

      Add! Remember F. Ushakov!
      "On the icon, the righteous warrior Theodor Ushakov holds in his hands
      the scroll on which it is written, "Do not despair! These terrible storms
      turn to the glory of Russia. "This is very relevant to our days."
      http://databasebank.ru/25/124
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  17. ilya63
    ilya63 12 May 2013 20: 45
    +3
    Nobody canceled the Victory Day, although honestly, who knows how many heroes we have on board shooters, almost nobody (and the Germans know their heroes), or who made the tank rams first, about the village of Pesets (where the Germans had a scribe from 1 soldier), about the detachment of Colonel Karyakin (500 Russians versus 40000 Persians), and so it can be enumerated indefinitely, it turns out that we don’t keep crying, we can’t castrate our own history, all the more for the sake of any pirates, we rewrite the forgotten pages of the feat of the Great People ourselves, we can study history not only in books, but also in films (how many films he made with hidden propaganda in Hollywood, and because of our orientation, all our creative people aren’t allowed, and then Western critics will slander)
  18. limon
    limon 12 May 2013 21: 10
    +1
    The gray hair on the temples in the song is from experience and not from old age. Good song.
  19. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 12 May 2013 21: 25
    0
    The youth of western Ukraine hates Russia. Russian youth, respect Ukraine! Be smarter!
  20. optimist
    optimist 12 May 2013 23: 07
    +1
    Dear forum users! Once again, all of you with this GREAT HOLIDAY! To our great regret, today this is perhaps the only thing that still unites people in the vastness of the former USSR ... The indistinct and contradictory ideology of modern Russia (or rather its complete absence) only separates people. And the unspoken modern slogan "Loot at any cost" only divides. Involuntarily, the thought comes to mind that only tragedies, privations and wars unite the Russian people ...
    1. SlavaP
      SlavaP 13 May 2013 22: 17
      0
      Not only in the USSR but also far beyond its borders - everywhere there are, if not living veterans, then at least those who REMEMBER.
  21. Red hornet
    Red hornet 12 May 2013 23: 44
    +1
    Quote: Rus2012
    Moreover, the participating people stand, respecting the age of the elders ...

    That's it! They stand ...
    Was it really so difficult for Vladimir Vladimirovich and Dmitry Anatolyevich to take the Victory Parade while standing? Or is there no truth at the feet? Then where is she? Really ... ???
  22. Vladomir
    Vladomir 12 May 2013 23: 58
    +2
    The nationwide celebration of Victory Day will also affect the writing of textbooks on the history of Russia, and what other holidays will be reflected in it. One thing is clear that Gorbachev, Yeltsin and their "fifth" column will not be included in the number of national heroes, but on the contrary, their treacherous essence will be even more exposed.
  23. rinat1955
    rinat1955 13 May 2013 00: 02
    +1
    Most of the speakers speak of victory days (and youth’s attitude towards it) is purely speculative, but here are the facts. There is a WOT toy network tank shooter, a filthy toy in every sense, but popular with young people. So here. last year, May 9, people easily went to calls to destroy fans of German technology on Victory Day. This year it’s not. Generally.
    Young can trend (like we remember, etc.), but to give up something, as a sign of memory - no
    1. kazssr
      kazssr 13 May 2013 15: 09
      0
      I played this game. and after this action no one took German equipment. but nobody wanted to beat their own or even allied one))))))) and still it's still a game laughing
      1. rinat1955
        rinat1955 13 May 2013 17: 56
        0
        On the subject of WoT toys ... I tell you about the trend, there are more and more cowards ... there are more and more Germans in the game.
        To lose a day of playing time (this is a ban for the shooting of their fellow Germans) is a huge loss for young people. 100 rubles for removing crosses from German technology. A lot of money!
        I’m talking about ....
        They don’t understand that on May 9th, driving German equipment (one day a year!) Is ugly, at least.
  24. Logician
    Logician 13 May 2013 03: 42
    +1
    Yes, May 9th is that starting point on our country's new path to the empire! To new heights to new VICTORIES! And in the world there are no such barriers that we would be left in wimps)))) with victory! It is one in all and most importantly, everyone would remember, store and pass on the Sort from the son to the grandson !!!
  25. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 13 May 2013 09: 11
    +5
    "Nothing in life can
    kick out of the saddle! "
    -Such a saying
    the major had.

    Glory to such majors and privates! Happy Victory Day! Our Victory! soldier
  26. Hort
    Hort 13 May 2013 11: 53
    0
    and I would introduce such a task for students in history lessons: list the fields of military glory and the most important battles in major wars. And so that, starting with the defeat of the Khazaria and ending with the capture of Berlin and the defeat of the army’s quanta ... Although modern battles can already be added
  27. psdf
    psdf 13 May 2013 12: 10
    0
    What was expressed in posters, banners and TV sets with the text "Happy Holidays, dear veterans!" and in hypertrophied Leshchenko from each iron, reminding that the holiday is “with gray hair at the temples”.

    And what does the author dislike in the songs of Leshchenko? Victory Day?
  28. kazssr
    kazssr 13 May 2013 15: 07
    0
    MAY 9 VICTORY DAY It is one for all the inhabitants of the USSR. and I do not think that WWII veteran Georgians or Latvians, Estonians, Moldavians, and other nationalities of the USSR do not remember their friends, fellow soldiers of the living and the dead with tears in their eyes. these are modern politicians of a number of countries who want to forget this day for the sake of a handful of greenery from the west.