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Three projects of the new Turkish fighter are presented at the international defense exhibition in Istanbul

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Three projects of the new Turkish fighter are presented at the international defense exhibition in IstanbulAt the international defense exhibition held in Istanbul these days, the Turkish company TAI (Turkish Aerospace Industries) presented three projects of the new TFX fighter. The initial design program of the fighter should be completed this year.


The images are drawings of three aircraft concepts - single-engine with front horizontal tail (“duck” scheme) and without, and twin-engine in the normal aerodynamic scheme (on the photo). Currently, the Turkish Air Force and TAI are discussing these three concepts.

At the end of September a meeting will be held on the selection of one of the submitted projects. TAI is working on this program together with the Swedish industrial group SAAB.

The first flight of the fighter is scheduled to take place in 2023g. The TFX can replace the Lockheed Martin F-16C fighters in service with the Turkish Air Force.

As written in early February 2013. Turkish media, a brainstorming group identified the basic principles and characteristics of a promising combat vehicle.

Of the six proposed conceptual models of the Air Force, three have been selected, work on the design of which will continue until the end of the year, after which the proposals of the designers will be submitted for approval to the Secretariat of the defense industry. Specialists face a difficult task - to predict the level of technology development in 2030. in order to create a modern competitive aircraft.

Engineers and military experts believe that after 2030, the air link will consist of one fighter with a pilot and four unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs). At the same time developed a version of the fighter with two pilots. One will be responsible for controlling the combat vehicle, the second pilot will control the UAV. It is assumed that in the 30-ies of the current century, it will be possible to effectively block the communication of unmanned aerial vehicles with ground command posts, so the issue of controlling these devices directly in the air will become topical.

Experts suggest sheathing the hull of fighters with armor based on boron compounds. Such armor has been used for quite some time, and in the USSR, studies of the properties of this chemical element began as early in the 1970s as the basis for booking military equipment. Boron, according to Turkish engineers, provides a number of advantages in comparison with other substances. Boric armor is lighter, has sufficient density and provides adequate protection. It withstands high temperatures, which allows you to book the engine. In addition, the composite armor with boron content creates the effect of the object invisibility for radar.

The choice in the direction of the use of boron is not accidental. According to experts, 72 percent. world reserves of boron are located in Turkey. This amount is enough to meet the needs of the whole world in this element for 450 years.

A separate problem for Turkish specialists is the engine. Developing a jet engine from scratch will take about 30 years. For this reason, the first Turkish fighters plan to install imported engines, while simultaneously developing domestic ones. "Haber Turk" notes that Turkish developers are going to negotiate the purchase of engines from the largest manufacturers from the US, Europe and Russia.

But in contrast to the power plant the radar on the fighter may well be domestic. Local defense enterprises have already “filled their hands” and offer armies competitive technologies. Modernization and procurement of military equipment by the Turkish army takes place precisely with the condition of the maximum possible equipping of machines with domestic nodes and systems.
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  1. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 11 May 2013 07: 29
    +7
    It is not clear that Russia seriously intends to sell the engines of Turkey, that our politicians have completely dried up their brains. Well, let's arm NATO, so that it would be easier for them to destroy us later.
    1. patline
      patline 11 May 2013 08: 20
      +4
      Well, let's arm NATO, so that it would be easier for them to destroy us later.

      Uhhh! Let's arm NATO, so that later it will be easier for us to destroy them.
    2. Maks111
      Maks111 11 May 2013 10: 47
      0
      Turks are rearming. Given their foreign policy at the moment. Oh, and all this is not good.
      1. Reasonable, 2,3
        Reasonable, 2,3 11 May 2013 15: 35
        0
        And if someone is arming himself, including us, is that? -To good or what ?.
      2. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 11 May 2013 17: 32
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        Quote: Max111
        Turks are rearming. Given their foreign policy at the moment. Oh, and all this is not good.


        It's all a race for your own tail. By the time they re-equip half the army, the new weapon is outdated, and the existing one will become useless ... and the circle closes, they will continue to run in a circle between old and very old weapons, respectively, those who sell m will only eat fat.
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 11 May 2013 17: 30
      0
      Quote: vladsolo56
      It is not clear that Russia seriously intends to sell the engines of Turkey, that our politicians have completely dried up their brains. Well, let's arm NATO, so that it would be easier for them to destroy us later.


      Yes, let it be. They will be pleased with the engine and they will never construct their own again. I think it would be more correct to say - let's put the Turks on (a needle ... yeah if only) the products of our defense industry. Then the Germans and the British, and the Americans will fall off themselves.
  2. svp67
    svp67 11 May 2013 07: 31
    +1
    Images are drawings of three airplane concepts.

    Engineers and military experts believe that after 2030, the air link will consist of one fighter with a pilot and four unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs). At the same time, a variant of a fighter with two pilots is being developed. One will be responsible for the actual control of the combat vehicle, the second pilot will control the UAV

    Yes, Turkey is trying to be a "trendsetter" in aviation. Boldly on their part ...
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 11 May 2013 09: 23
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      Yes, Turkey is trying to be a "trendsetter" in aviation. Boldly on their part ...

      To be a trendsetter in aviation, you must first build something flying, and even more than one model. In the meantime, they just learn to cut and sew.
      1. svp67
        svp67 11 May 2013 09: 27
        +3
        Quote: Vladimirets
        In the meantime, they just learn to cut and sew.
        But with BIG ambitions ... lol
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 11 May 2013 09: 34
        +1
        Quote: Vladimirets
        To be a trendsetter in aviation, you must first build something flying, and even more than one model.

        In the meantime, they even order UAVs from Israel!
        They sewed jackets like the Chinese, and then immediately the 5th generation of planes, though there is nothing ...... but they popped out !!!
  3. Rustiger
    Rustiger 11 May 2013 07: 32
    0
    Images are drawings of three airplane concepts.

    Here is something amusing me lately "news" from the series
    "And here we are, how are we going to make up soon (2030?!) something that you haven't seen yet, but for now look at these pictures!" laughing
    Logically, one can assume that military technology, if something happens there, should be a kind of "SURPRISE" for a potential adversary.
    And so this is not even "saber-rattling", but simply an attempt to "scare" those "that now I have a stone in my bosom." ... ... or cookies? wassat

    We are able too. . . or mogem. . ., on pictures
    1


    And here you are at least an empty layout in a wind tunnel, if not a flight model.
    1. Edward72
      Edward72 11 May 2013 08: 00
      +3
      To do this, you need to build a pipe, well, it will soon appear also by the 30th year.
      1. Rustiger
        Rustiger 11 May 2013 08: 38
        +1
        Quote: Edward72
        you need to build a pipe, well, it will sooner appear by the 30th year too.

        It may well be. . . And even a fan will appear in it too yes
        And now plasticine and cardboard could be found? For the manufacture of toys. Or would have ordered from the Chinese. In a short period of time they would provide the whole of Turek region with beautifully packaged futuristic projects for a century ahead.
        At my school, at the next desk sat my friend Andrey E. So he "gave out" such "conceptual projects" of airplanes, racing cars and ships during one lesson that now the Pentagon would be envious. And without any komputer, one ballpoint pen. ... ...
  4. 77bor1973
    77bor1973 11 May 2013 08: 11
    +2
    And for this, to organize something like TsAGI and 50 years of experience.
  5. pinecone
    pinecone 11 May 2013 08: 26
    +2
    There are no fools sitting there either, they know how to handle financial flows. Until 2030 still far away, and funds from the budget have already been allocated, it remains only to deal with them correctly, to whom and how much.
    The fighter is still all right, they think globally in Ankara. Going to a new airport for 23 billion dollars. North of Istanbul to build and dig a sea channel near the Bosphorus. That's where you can dig money.
  6. vostok1982
    vostok1982 11 May 2013 08: 48
    0
    Turks understand that the USA is not eternal. When the overlord does not, then Turkey will be sandwiched between a hostile Europe and no less hostile Syria (if it survives), Iraq, Iran. Then it will be better to have, even if not a very good one, but your own fighter.
  7. pensioner
    pensioner 11 May 2013 09: 12
    +3
    Yes, of course. On a kind of Iranian stealth fighter, the size of a "Zaporozhets" and powered by a 220 socket. To build such aircraft, you must first create a school of aviation engineers. And go all the way of aviation structures from simple to complex. I’m not even talking about related sciences, of which there’s a hell of a lot. Money will not help in creating a complex structure. Here to buy - yes, they will help. And even then there are a lot of problems.
    1. fatty
      fatty 11 May 2013 15: 44
      +1
      no nonsense. put forward the concept of a modern fighter-sovereign right of any independent state. be it turkey or the republic of vanuatu.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 12 May 2013 01: 09
        0
        Quote: fatty
        no nonsense. put forward the concept of a modern fighter-sovereign right of any independent state. be it turkey or the republic of vanuatu.

        lattffiyu and estonia swam ...
  8. zennon
    zennon 11 May 2013 09: 36
    +1
    Amazing! They all rushed to build fighters! It turns out to be so simple. But Burkina is not building fighter planes yet?
  9. Totalanigila
    Totalanigila 11 May 2013 09: 38
    -1
    Is it true that part of our export military products can be bookmarked, which, on command from the headquarters, will put it out of action, or limit its functionality?
    1. svp67
      svp67 11 May 2013 09: 42
      0
      Quote: TotalAnigila
      Is it true that part of our export military products can be bookmarked, which, on command from the headquarters, will put it out of action, or limit its functionality?
      Well, who will tell you directly about this. Let's just say that it is possible, but if anyone accidentally discovers something there, then this is of course a simple misunderstanding, it just happened so, we are not guilty ...
  10. Borat
    Borat 11 May 2013 10: 27
    +1
    Bullshit! Give me at least two brands of Turkish cars. The aviation industry from scratch and immediately a fighter!
    Leather goods and greenhouse farming - this is the lot of the Ottoman ex-empire! ... Sorry, still tourists.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 11 May 2013 15: 15
      +1
      Quote: Borat
      Leather goods and greenhouse farming - this is the lot of the Ottoman ex-empire! ... Sorry, still tourists.

      Sorry. More singed alcohol and cigarettes.
    2. Rustiger
      Rustiger 11 May 2013 16: 59
      +2
      Quote: Borat
      Give me at least two brands of Turkish cars.

      Yes, easily.
      In Turkey, buses of local brands such as BMC, Temsa и Otokar. Tofas manufactures models licensed by FIAT. Affordable models are available on the basis of FIAT 131, discontinued in Italy Sahin, Dogan и Kartal.
      However, the company also produces modern models - One with a 4-cylinder carburetor engine, Type with 88 - 148 hp engines and Tempra with the most powerful 4-cylinder two-liter 16-valve engine. Since 1995, Tempra has been exported to European countries in the sedan and wagon versions. The cargo and passenger version of Station Wagon is in special demand (especially in Turkey). Many models are successfully sold in Asia and Africa.
      In general, Turkey is the sixth largest automobile manufacturer in Europe.
      Search for photos yourself (if you want), I gave only the general direction of the search. . .

      Quote: retired
      Sorry. More singed alcohol and cigarettes.

      Sorry. According to the guests of some "budget" hotels, also pubic lice, and the "dominant alpha males" on the beaches, who do not know how to do anything other than spud lonely Russian cellulite "non-poor matrons", "also produce gonorrhea and trichomoniasis (?). laughing
      What the hell are these planes? what
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 11 May 2013 20: 04
        +2
        Quote: Rustiger
        What the hell are these planes?

        Indeed ... With such a wealth.
  11. pinecone
    pinecone 11 May 2013 11: 29
    0
    To the author of the article. By the way, the full name of the event is "International Defense Industry Exhibition".
  12. Red777
    Red777 11 May 2013 13: 54
    0
    As a result, one more "underfighter" will turn out. They simply do not have specialists and design bureaus to make planes.
  13. KononAV
    KononAV 11 May 2013 23: 23
    +1
    They won’t succeed. But it’s more insulting that this is for the money of our tourists.