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Victory Parade and domestic alternative alarm show

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The Victory Parade, which took place on 9 in May of 2013, caused a positive assessment of the majority of, say, sober-thinking Russians. Returning to the parade of pupils of Suvorov and Nakhimov schools, providing an opportunity to demonstrate their bearing to young Cossacks-Aksais from the cadet corps of the Rostov region, using the historical name of the Preobrazhensky regiment, standing (not sitting in chairs) during the passage of parade columns on Red Square technology. All this and the very atmosphere of solemnity honoring the veterans of the Great Patriotic War could hardly be left indifferent. However, an indifferent assessment of the Russian public, as, however, and usually (in recent years), turned out to be very diverse. It’s good or not to judge each specific reader of the material and the viewer of the Moscow Victory Parade separately.




With all the wealth of positive assessments that the Russians, let us say, presented in relation to the Moscow parade, there are some reflective thoughts about, excuse me, the state of mental health of a certain part of Russians. On the one hand, we, seemingly, have no right to obstruct the points of view of those people who saw in the Victory Parade another manifestation of a certain anti-people negative, but on the other hand, keep obviously destructive publications of certain citizens actively using open spaces of Internet resources and so-called deliberately liberal media, in this case is hardly appropriate.

As always, the most liberal platforms of our country (and not only ours, by the way) turned out to be ahead of the rest of the world in terms of sharp criticism of the Moscow Victory Parade, who decided to again put the parade in honor of the anniversary of the victory over fascism. In particular, critical posts unexpectedly (or, on the contrary, as expected) decided to break out the social network Vkontakte. No, Vkontakte is of course a free platform where everyone can express his own opinion about any event, but when a social network breeds posts that the Victory Parade this year, you see, mock the Russian people, then the adequacy of the "fruit" is worth considering. If you translate these publications into a more or less decent language, then, according to these, as it happened, the citizens, the Victory Parade could not take people whose nationality is different from the Russian. Well, it turns out: the gentlemen, in fact, contradict themselves. After all, quite recently, the same people declared that now, they say, at last, the corrupt official and “jacket” of Anatoly Serdyukov was replaced at his post by a man who at least wears a military uniform. And so - hello arrived ... They wrote and agreed that the nationality of Sergei Shoigu, hell, it turns out, does not give him the opportunity to take the main parade of the country.

It is obvious that people who admit such statements, like their supporters, somewhat forget (obviously deliberately) in honor of which event the parade on Red Square is generally held. If you have forgotten, you need to remind them: the Victory Parade is held in honor of the Victory of the Soviet people in the war against fascism, and fascism, Nazism, and so on, are extreme forms of uncompromising nationalism with all that follows. And the Soviet people who fought against fascism, this, let it be known, to all the same people: Russians, Tatars, Tuvans, Ukrainians, Kazakhs, Azerbaijanis, and more, more ... Well, you know, it turned out that not only the fair-haired blue-eyed guys from somewhere near the Eagle or Vladimir fought with Nazi Germany and its allies. If today it bothers someone, then these people clearly should inquire about the hours of reception of a local psychiatrist, until the orderlies arrived themselves ...

So what is then indirectly urged by the gentlemen, who suddenly deigned to “dislike” the ethnicity of the defense minister - perhaps not to the cultivation of the manifestations of the same extreme (it must be emphasized: the most extreme) forms of nationalism. Is it again beneficial for someone to divide people not according to their merits and the degree of return to the work entrusted to them, but solely on a national basis. If so, then it is possible to even reach the discussion of "Übermensch - not Übermensch".

Moreover, you can bet on the fact that people who are on the pages of social networks after the Victory Parade, announced that they are indignant about the “non-Russianness of the host parade”, in reality, are ready, as they say, to rake up the heat only by proxy. Few of these gentlemen would stand up for a Russian girl, to whom, say, three people from the Caucasus stick to the subway. Few of them are tutorial stories I read up my native state at least until the middle, not to mention a more detailed acquaintance with the historical realities of the country. Yes, and what could be an acquaintance, if such people, usually on Victory Day, choose the following TV show:

Victory Parade and domestic alternative alarm show
The program of TV channel TNT from 9 May 2013 of the year


To allocate the "whole" five minutes of 9 air on May, dedicated to the memory of those who fell in the Great Patriotic War - how difficult it was for the TNT channel to make this decision ... And the regular audience of this channel, which obviously included those who in the Victory Parade began to search negative, it was even harder - I had to break away from the “Comedy Club” on 300 seconds a day ...

Echo of Moscow on its Internet service decided to publish the material of a certain “widely known in narrow circles” writer who asked about the past Victory Parade with a question, quote: “What kind of victory? ..” Like, what kind of victory are we celebrating here. Apparently, there is no one to remind this writer ...

The same “Echo” broke out with an article by Mr. Mokhnatkin entitled “Ceremonial Cynicism”, in which a representative of the For Human Rights movement discusses how that, you understand, you could lose millions of citizens of the country in the 40 war (according to the same Mr. Mokhnatkin) , if Germany fought on several fronts against several states at once ... Apparently, if Mokhnatkin himself had fought in 1941, he would have strangled fascism with the forces of one battalion ... And Mokhnatkin also discusses how, quote:
Stalin unleashed the Second World War and destroyed more than half of the population.
, and why do you need to hold a parade? However, after such pearls, even the audience of “Echo of Moscow”, which is usually inclined to support such publications, smashed Mokhnatkin's “theses” to pieces. The most innocuous definition that Mokhnatkin gave to Echo - quote: liberal schizophrenic. What is it?! Is there a listener and user revolution on Echo? At least a single, but an insight? ..

And after such materials our hyperliberal "colleagues" are also perplexed, and why it was attacked by some hackers on Victory Day - they say, who dared; they say that these are obvious machinations of “Putinists” ... Apparently, these gentlemen, who allow themselves to publish the considered character, do not get acquainted with the comments of representatives of their own audience. And it would be necessary, so to speak, to draw conclusions at least occasionally.
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  1. esaul
    esaul 13 May 2013 08: 14 New
    34
    Alex, welcome hi and thank you for this article, which sounded in unison with mine today. Plus!
    One of these days I also came across one filthy little article from MK, where tying the St. George ribbons was ridiculed as degeneratism and was hiding behind all the true feelings of a true patriot, and, in fact, a white-tape (but competent!) Hamster.
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer 13 May 2013 08: 36 New
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      Yesaul, you’ll excuse me, but when I see a dusty tape three years ago tied to an antenna of a car, the question of “bydlya” and ostentatious “patriotism” of a driver arises by itself. Or a tape on a dog’s collar, or 48 ribbons (in front , on the back, on a backpack and in hair weaved) on one 18-year-old TP, isn’t that degradation? And many "glamorous" don’t even know what kind of tape it is and why it’s Georgievskaya. It’s just become “fashionable,” what is the worst
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 13 May 2013 09: 06 New
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        it became just "fashionable"

        It goes like a holiday set. Like a holiday, but with disposable tableware ...
        1. soaring
          soaring 13 May 2013 10: 34 New
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          Gleb, welcome! Yeah ..... A terrible photo .... The one who did this "set" or a full down or a person who does not care if only money in your pocket! It’s clearly not in order with the head!
          It's a shame that such "people" live in the country of Victorious Fascism!
          1. rolik
            rolik 13 May 2013 13: 00 New
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            Quote: soaring
            The one who did this “set” or full down or person,

            Rather, a fan of DOM-2, and TNT channel. By the way, on this channel I watch only "Interns" everything else is complete ..... rubbish. My wife is a doctor, so at least on her topic you can laugh. And so, of course, a completely advertising channel for the complete nullification of intracranial space, through the exploitation of humorous humor. And well, one would be such a channel. REN TV, constantly scared by various Armagedets, foreheads with a third eye, ghouls, and lizards. If you want to send the enemy into a fool, tie him to a chair and turn on REN TV for a couple of days. Everything, the enemy is doomed to stay in a madhouse for life. And who he will be there, an alien, a lizardman, or a zombie, is the second question.
            1. starshina78
              starshina78 13 May 2013 20: 22 New
              +4
              TNT almost completely went under the "Comedy Club". And, only American comedy can be more moronic than this same "club" in the world. These "Wills, Bulldogs, Chestnuts and the rest of the riffraff" are garbage on the side of our road, and the best way is not to notice it, that is, simply - just not to look. A drop in rating is the worst thing for TV programs. Not a single producer will keep the program on the channel if it does not bring money, even if the host of the program once danced with Medvedev to the song "American Battle."
            2. dark_65
              dark_65 14 May 2013 09: 53 New
              +1
              About TNT Channel:
              TNT-Teleset shareholders hold an annual meeting

              Revenues of TNT-Teleset, part of Gazprom-Media Holding, in 2005 totaled $ 124 million.

              This was announced at the TNT-Teleset shareholders meeting held on June 30, 2006. At the meeting, the shareholders decided to channel the $ 2005 million profit in 16 to the development of the company.

              During the meeting, the Board of Directors of the company was also elected, which included: Bondarenko Alexander Valerievich (First Vice-President of JSCB Eurofinance-Mosnarbank), Goikhberg Igor Moiseevich (Deputy General Director of Gazprom-Media), Petrenko Roman Evgenievich (General Director of TNT-Teleset OJSC), Petrov Sergey Vladimirovich (Financial Director of Gazprom-Media OJSC), Yan Borisovich Piskunov (Head of the Legal Department of Gazprom-Media OJSC), Nikolay Yuryevich Senkevich (General Director of Gazprom-Media OJSC) , Vice President of JSB Gazprombank (CJSC), Stolyarenko Vladimir Mikhailovich (President and Chairman of the Management Board of JSCB Eurofinance - Mosnarbank), Chuychenko Konstantin Anatolyevich (Member of the Management Board, Head of the Legal Department of OJSC Gazprom).



              I think there is nothing to comment on simply.
              http://broadcasting.ru/newstext.php?news_id=42961

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      2. Tartary
        Tartary 13 May 2013 09: 25 New
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        Quote: fartfraer
        Yesaul, you’ll excuse me, but when I see a dusty tape three years ago tied to an antenna of a car, the question of “bydlya” and ostentatious “patriotism” of a driver arises by itself. Or a tape on a dog’s collar, or 48 ribbons (in front , on the back, on a backpack and in hair weaved) on one 18-year-old TP, isn’t that degradation? And many "glamorous" don’t even know what kind of tape it is and why it’s Georgievskaya. It’s just become “fashionable,” what is the worst

        The tape has become fashionable - what's the big deal?
        A girl in a braid of tape braided, is it bad?
        The owner wandered into the dog’s collar ... Isn't that a weapon?
        Remember what the tape symbolizes?
        Probably the victorious George? Which spear kills the hydra (snake) ...
        Spear-dog, a man on a horse-hero warrior ...
        So before chronic senility is not far off.
        1. fartfraer
          fartfraer 13 May 2013 09: 49 New
          +8
          To begin with, I advise you to read what the St. George Ribbon is all about, what it was given for and how it was worn. If you don’t see anything wrong with its modern (described by me) interpretation, then this is your problem. I tell you “-” with a clear conscience.
          if the dog is a weapon, why don’t the dog owners get permission to own it in the Ministry of Internal Affairs? on what basis do they move around the city with combat-ready weapons? how do they isolate these weapons from free access for those who do not have the right to weapons (for example, their children?) Well it is, a digression.
          By the way, what do you think, if there is nothing wrong with fashion, then why not start selling orders quite officially? For example, you can fashionably assign the title of Hero of the USSR to your young child, modestly hang the Battle Red Banner and walk freely on May 9, congratulating everyone you meet ,is not it so?
          “It’s not far from chronic senility.” I agree, but your tolerance for mockery of the symbols of victory cannot be called even insanity.
          1. domokl
            domokl 13 May 2013 10: 15 New
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            Quote: fartfraer
            why not start selling orders quite officially? for example, it’s fashionable to assign the title of Hero of the USSR to your young child,
            I read the comments .. Insanity grew stronger called ...
            They tied the ribbon in the wrong place .. Ay yay yay ... But it’s good that the majority of young people don’t know what military awards are. It’s enough that all their ancestors knew, we know. It means it was not for nothing that my comrades were killed ..
            When I see some kind of Cayenne with the inscription-Thank you grandfather for the Victory, I rejoice. So, no matter how we baptize our children (even those who have already earned money on Porsche or Maybach in 30 years), they remain Russian. Even if they have a surname not Russian, face dark and nosy, eyes narrow ... But all of them were and remain Russian ...
            St. George ribbon is a symbol of involvement in the Victory of grandfathers, a symbol of involvement in the Victory. And there is no regulation on its wearing.
            1. fartfraer
              fartfraer 13 May 2013 10: 43 New
              +4
              "The St. George ribbon is a symbol of participation in the Victory of the grandfathers" - is the bullshit order of the Hero not a symbol?
              “Yes, it’s good that the majority of young people don’t know what military awards are. It’s enough that all their ancestors knew, we know. So it’s not for nothing that my comrades have died ..” - do not boast about your service, dear. one served and fought. so answer, why is it that I am outraged by mockery of the victory symbols? well, if your comrades were killed so that some “girl”, not knowing the value of military decorations (as you yourself deigned to notice) catches victory symbols anywhere, I am truly sorry.
              “And there is no regulation for wearing it.” - it’s possible for you not. But in general, the place of each award and the sequence of their location relative to each other is still there. And the St. George ribbon is still an award (now Guards) ribbon. And I as a guardsman, it’s dumb to watch how it is used for other purposes. If it’s insanity, let it be your way. then I’d rather be a senile than a “Tolerast” who has forgotten the value of memory and respect for symbols.
              1. Joker
                Joker 13 May 2013 13: 50 New
                +4
                Here I read the comments and remember the other side of the USSR, if you stand out at least something, then you are bad, what you should go and what society will decide for you, and not you yourself. You there with your patriotism do not go crazy, okay? I don’t see anything wrong if they tied the ribbon to the dog, now no one thinks about where these ribbons came from, what they mean, it’s just like a symbol of victory now, you see, and t-shirts of this color can be released by May 9 and what next? I understand that if they wiped their ass, wow, this is an insult, but what you say is already nitpicking. On May 9 I was in Voronezh, on the 7 number I came to work with a friend there and stayed with him until the 12 one. 9 of May naturally decided to go to the parade. Here's what I really didn’t like, that many of the great holiday made an occasion to drink, the poor veterans were given a clove and sent home, and at that time (I don’t know what idiot it came up with) they handed out free porridge and vodka (such as camp food) literally after a couple of hours everyone was filled with drunks, skating with flags and wild cries began around the city, all of the cars climbed out on the go, scared, it was really disgusting to look, this is really a problem that needs to be discussed and solved, and not where the ribbon was attached. They made a show from the holiday, here’s a video for you, pay attention to the flags, what’s the EDRA flag for?

                Turned the holiday into some kind of idiocy.
                1. fartfraer
                  fartfraer 13 May 2013 14: 46 New
                  +4
                  tired of explaining and arguing, you want to knit victory symbols on dogs, knit. you can on cats, you can color the worms in the gardens in the colors of the ribbon, you can wrap yourself like a mummy in the sheet of the guard’s colors. This is only an indicator of your attitude towards the symbols and the victory itself, no more .only this "patriotism" is cheap.
                  "Now no one thinks about where these ribbons come from" is the main thing in your comment. Do not think further, your right.
              2. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 13 May 2013 19: 58 New
                +3
                Could you share ... no, better! I am sure that not later than in a couple of hours we will see a single symbol throughout our country, uniting us. I see perfectly - you are completely ready! You immediately propose such a symbol that it, on the one hand, is recognizable to everyone, and on the other, has never been used before.
                Because if applied - overgrown with some formalities and status. And for you such trifles as the fact that the Order of St. George is to be issued to a state body, the decision to hand it over to accept high power, hand it with all honors, solemnly and according to the Charter, are absolutely not important to you. Then he will be the order - a military distinction. While the ribbon of flowers of the order is a symbol of the fact that we are together. Together with each other, together with Russia, together is our past and our future.
                Why does it seem to me that this is precisely what causes naked malice in you? What are we together? Maybe because the tactics you used in relation to St. George’s tapes Lenin called "strangulation through hugs"? Considering her to be the meanest? No, this is not patriotism, it is called in a completely different way ...
            2. klimpopov
              klimpopov 13 May 2013 14: 47 New
              +4
              And I agree with you, and grandfathers and even now the late great-grandfather (the tankman was awarded medals and orders) do not see anything wrong with that (great-grandfather, I also think I would have reacted normally). Yes, and Dad is happy to wear. The fact that they shove in advertising - I agree, it’s a sin to profit from the name of Victory. But the youth has little left that unites them - the St. George Ribbon.
              So all the same, what's wrong with that?
              1. fartfraer
                fartfraer 13 May 2013 15: 46 New
                +2
                but I don’t argue that the tape is good. you just don’t have to knit a dozen dogs and a couple on the car (you can do it on the car, but if you aren’t able to keep the tape neat, tie it in the cabin.) big again I will write in letters-PATRIOTISM IS NOT MEASURED BY THE NUMBER OF BANDS ON MAY 9 ON YOU! brought to the point of absurdity
                1. Joker
                  Joker 13 May 2013 16: 08 New
                  +2
                  it’s possible for the car, but if it’s not able to keep the tape in a neat form, knit it in the cabin

                  What else do you want? Everyone who has a car on the day of victory is not washed, traitors to the motherland! You bring it all to the point of absurdity, let people celebrate the holiday normally, maybe we can write a set of rules for May 9, what is possible and what is not? That is, if not a believer, not Russian, now who does not have a new ribbon, a liberal and a traitor. Then what will happen? You can’t ride foreign cars on Victory Day, especially German cars; clothes should be made in Russia; everyone should have the USSR flag. If you dream, then you can still come up with a lot of things. The St. George ribbon is like a symbol now, and if you consider it as a matter, then no one except those who received the award should wear it.
                  1. klimpopov
                    klimpopov 13 May 2013 16: 52 New
                    +4
                    Kstai in the city saw on Mercedes on 9 May the inscription - "trophy" ... I was pleased.
                    And so I agree with you!
                2. klimpopov
                  klimpopov 13 May 2013 16: 50 New
                  +1
                  Duc and I do not say what to bring to absurdity. Something I incomprehensibly wrote? I hung it on a car in the mirror. Today took off. Well, I see cars with stickers? Yes, maybe most posers. But let the “trend” of 9 May be better than Hitler and the swastika. Otherwise, youth cannot be accustomed. Here they are, give them a trend!

                  All is not so. These are rhetorical questions. The parade is "why spend money." The ribbon is "absurd" ... So it’s necessary to explain why and why the St. George ribbon and why it should be respected (kept in order). And do not shout, "take it off." Something like this...
                  1. Joker
                    Joker 13 May 2013 17: 37 New
                    +2
                    klimpopov-I didn’t write to you, I'm sorry, now I will put a nickname to whom I am writing. This is me fartfraer wrote. I am absolutely in solidarity with you on this issue.
                    1. klimpopov
                      klimpopov 13 May 2013 17: 51 New
                      +2
                      I absolutely agree with you too. In general, there is such an arrow. She will tell someone the message. hi
                  2. fartfraer
                    fartfraer 13 May 2013 19: 27 New
                    0
                    "I hung it on the car in the mirror. Today I took it off." - here I am about the same thing. Read the first koment, there are cars where the tape already looks like a small floor cloth. Do you think that this is normal? Or "patriotism" ends if you need to change or wash the tape? When it is neat, yes I'm glad if it rides at least the whole year. This is about the tapes on the machines.
                    since I’ve started talking about stickers, I approve of this phenomenon, they remain after May 9. It’s especially nice to see in the winter on the rear window of the car in front, “thank you grandfather for the Victory”
          2. shark
            shark 13 May 2013 11: 40 New
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            If it has become fashionable to tie the St. George ribbon, rejoice. Because it is nothing but propaganda striking the masses. It would be much worse if the ribbon repeated the flag of the United States or something ... Let them still not know the true meaning of these colors, though not completely they understand what kind of people wore crosses with a block of these flowers. But this is a step towards their country. And this is already good.
            1. fartfraer
              fartfraer 13 May 2013 12: 18 New
              +3
              “If it became fashionable to tie the St. George ribbon, rejoice” - I was more pleased with the little kid with a wooden homemade rifle (dad went camping) and in a cap in the parade in Tomsk than thoughtless tying of a ribbon instead of bows and dog collars. Patriotism is not measured in the number of ribbons , he is only a component of knowledge about the history of his homeland and respect for this story.
              it is knowledge and respect for history, the desire to be a worthy citizen, and not a fake "fashion" for "patriotism" that needs to be instilled.
            2. Tartary
              Tartary 13 May 2013 16: 15 New
              +1
              Quote: shark
              If it has become fashionable to tie the St. George ribbon, rejoice. Because it is nothing but propaganda striking the masses. It would be much worse if the ribbon repeated the flag of the United States or something ... Let them still not know the true meaning of these colors, though not completely they understand what kind of people wore crosses with a block of these flowers. But this is a step towards their country. And this is already good.

              Yeah, colleagues ...
              It turns out just to confuse you.
              An old senile bruiser came and forced you to remove the dirty St. George ribbon, a young granddaughter, or even the hero’s great-granddaughter from the car, to pull out the braided ribbons with braids, and the dog and the owner sent to the police station for permission to wear the victory symbol - the retired official didn’t unfasten average injury?
              People from the people created the image \ fashion for the youth of wounded Russia in order to restore historical justice to the memory of young generations for many decades, and a certain heir of Yezhov, having retired, arranges for you a depressive session at the level of the traffic police post, which you’ll just go around and even on a goat ...
              Of course, of course (!) It is urgent to create patrols from real policemen and tear the victory ribbons from unworthy to wear them - especially those who don’t know the 5+ heraldry and, God forbid, also look at house-2 ...

              I am smiling at your goalkeeper-foam at the gate, where provocative nonsense flies with a whistle.

              Good luck, patriots of the homeland of your children.
              1. fartfraer
                fartfraer 13 May 2013 19: 21 New
                0
                "An old senile-squeamish came and made you take a dirty St. George ribbon off the car," I’m younger than you think. Nobody will force you to remove a dirty tape, you are "patriots."
                and leave your words inadequate for your family, ascribing to “pull out the intertwined ribbons with braids, the dog, along with the owner, sent to the site for permission to wear the victory symbol,” I didn’t need to say anything like that.
                “Isn't the retired official of the middle bosom unbelted?” - are you not allowing yourself too much to insult a stranger? Or have you been raised?
                Well, with regards to your other "grandiloquent words", maybe at a rally for beer and a ride with a bang, but here only shows your inability to understand the text read (my comments in this case)
                I ask you to read carefully, I did not exaggerate your words, did not misinterpret. I am not able to conduct the same conversation, do not talk. I will not lose much, believe me
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          3. IgWest
            IgWest 13 May 2013 21: 29 New
            +3
            Dear fartfraer, I think you are overdoing it. After all, this is not about the St. George ribbon - the heraldic symbol, but about the St. George ribbon - the symbol of the holiday - Victory Day. Of course, it is extremely bad when it is used to promote goods and services and is used as a related product or an element of commodity packaging, as in the photo of Gleb. For this, "enterprising" sellers need to pull their goods over their heads. But it’s good that the girls weave them into a braid, which means that not all the girls we have are from House-2, as some TV channels and the media are trying to suggest.
            1. fartfraer
              fartfraer 14 May 2013 07: 24 New
              +2
              you read komenty from the very beginning) it was said there that the relation is “consumer” to the symbols. The symbol should not look like a dirty rag due to the fact that the “patriot” should be washed or changed in time for scraps. The symbol should be treated exactly like a symbol and certainly not to the “fashionable thing that everyone wears.” The question is precisely in relation to the tape, as a symbol, and not that it is worn by anyone.
    2. xetai9977
      xetai9977 13 May 2013 11: 16 New
      10
      PARADES ALWAYS FAVOR THE CASE OF PATRIOTISM AND EDUCATION OF YOUTH. SAVE ON THIS UNFAVORABLE BUSINESS.
    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak 13 May 2013 14: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: esaul
      One of these days I came across one filthy article from MK, where the tying of St. George ribbons was ridiculed


      First, earn this ribbon, and then tie it

      "Sovereign Emperor, bearing in mind that some regiments already have all the insignia set as a reward for military exploits, I deigned to establish the new highest distinction: St. George ribbons for banners and standards with inscriptions of distinctions, for which the ribbons were granted, according to the description attached to this description and drawing. These ribbons, constituting the belonging of banners and standards, are by no means removed from them. "

      This is holy, and named after the saint,



    4. Joker
      Joker 13 May 2013 16: 50 New
      +1
      The site "Military Review" involuntarily inflates an elephant from a fly, as well as other patriotic sites. If there were no articles about how traitors talk about 9 on May, I wouldn’t have found out about it at all, like many others. I look and read only what I like, so the knocks of nedobitkov passed by me, but someone after all specifically like a pig is looking for dirt and climbs on those resources where a priori nothing positive happens, why do it? Not only did you spoil your mood for yourself, it was also different, it was enough for one article and everything, but not repeating the same thing every day, exaggerating this topic from all sides. Does anything positive happen in our country? I understand that people like scandals and such news is gaining more views, but damn, I really want just a little bit of positive, I didn’t watch a single war movie at all these holidays, heavy films were already tired of TV, TV was flooded with monotonous Russian TV shows about corrupt cops, gangsters, about unfortunate Russians. Well, is it really impossible to take off at least something so that a person looking or reading just rested? I didn’t visit the site 9-10-11, I didn’t watch any patriotic programs, I just walked, rested and read only that I really had nothing to do with politics and for these 3 of the day I really had a moral rest, because liberal media that patriotic really foul brains negative. And every time it happens that they suck up the topic for months. Okay, the liberals, it’s their task to loosen the society, but other publications echo them, taking up the baton. If they didn’t pay attention to the liberals, they would have already cringed, but no, the patriots are constantly warming up (maybe unconsciously) the hype. Already 13 number, how long are we going to talk about 9 May? Let's have another week discussing the pearls of the liberals, about whom no one at all would have known if they had not been so actively exaggerated by the patriots. Each rally needs to be described on all sides, but why? Who needs information on the liberal media will find, and who does not care and they will not get there and will sit quietly without bothering nonsense, but no, you need to gash the news everywhere, chew everything from all sides, find new enemies and remember the old ones. Already zadolbal this negative and it is distributed as liberals and patriots, one in one direction, others in another, taking up initiatives from others. Maybe enough already?
      1. Joker
        Joker 13 May 2013 17: 27 New
        0
        Every time we come up with a new enemy for ourselves all the time away from the fact that our enemy has always been and will be alone and is inside the country and this enemy is ourselves. You see the stories depriving us, and we are depriving ourselves of it, and this is not the first time, every time the regime changes, everyone runs like fanatics and destroys everything from the previous one. They converted to Orthodoxy, shredded all the Vedic symbols, essentially deprived themselves of their roots, then they shave off their beards so that everything is in the West, then we demolish the monuments ourselves, erasing our history, we have many monuments to war heroes, are there many museums in the country? Why are we so careless about history? Yes, there were tyrants and corrupt skins in places, and then what? This is our story, whatever it was, you need to save everything, absolutely everything, so that it is a lesson for future generations, and we all destroy it and throwing the blame on someone else, then the Germans rewrote the history to us, then the Americans, If everything was saved carefully, nobody could rewrite it. There was an article and discussion here, saying that victory in World War II is a victory for all of Russia and present generations, too, but I think this is a holiday for veterans, those who fought and defended their Homeland with their breasts, and what did the current generation that like pigs get rid of celebration? Do not worry, we defended the veterans safely. So, the 9 holiday exists only as long as the last veteran is alive, then we will pay tribute to the veterans for their feat, we have nothing to celebrate. Many people say that we are the last stronghold of sanity, we are all so good, good-natured, honest, conscientious, to hell with two. Our country is rich in nuggets, geniuses, otherwise we are no better than the same Americans and other "enemies", and in some ways worse. The stigma of the cannon themselves, but according to our tradition, we will throw all the blame on the neighbor, thereby giving ourselves a whitewash, isn't it? Instead of solving our problems, we climb to teach others (as well as the Americans) ourselves are falling apart, but for that we are discussing how 9 has passed from the Poles and how much the homosex population has increased in the USA. Everyone with open mouths is waiting for the United States and Europe to bend over from debts, such a feeling that we will live better from this, the same traitors they were, are and will be, just as the fools of the traitors were and left with us. And we have no problems anywhere, remember how Putin subtly hinted that the Mongols were on the Kulikov field on the one hand and on the other hand, that is, it was possible that there was no Mongol-Tatar yoke at all, but there were ordinary disassembly and war inside a country that our ancestors traditionally erased from history as a dark spot and found the "enemy". In the entire history we fought many wars, but we also had a mountain of revolutions and sea traitors who destroyed the country with the support of the people no worse than in wars. And each time they rewrote and cleaned the history under their own way, destroying historical monuments that could refute their changes in history. What do we know about vedism now? Nothing at all, everything is destroyed and burned, all those who supported this belief were killed, history was rewritten, now it will be VERY difficult to find. But then a huge number of people were killed, as if in a straight war.
        1. Joker
          Joker 13 May 2013 17: 31 New
          +1
          So instead of climbing to teach Ukrainians and others, you first need to understand yourself and yourself, otherwise we have very skillfully learned to distract people from internal problems to external ones, which cannot be called problems, well, what difference does it make to us is going on in Europe? They would have armed themselves slowly, raised science, paid less attention to liberals, and they, like little children, cry only when you pay attention to them, and when you sit and pretend that they are not there, they sit in silence. We draw attention to them ourselves, thereby increasing their ratings and distributing their information everywhere. We have a feeling that the people are stupid to the point of impossibility, well, constantly repeating the same thing, we’ll ruin ourselves and cry, we will find someone to blame and sit with mud instead of solving problems. Here are 2 proverbs, Russian and Azerbaijani (maybe I’m mistaken , but from those lands) Russian-It’s not bad that my cow died, but that Azerbaijan’s neighbor was still alive. -If I have a cow, then let my neighbor have two so that he doesn’t ask for milk everytime. Feel the difference? And at the end of my 3's gigantic comments in which I expressed what I have in my heart, the slightly battered words "If I fall asleep and wake up in a hundred years and they ask me what is happening in Russia, I will answer - DRINK AND STEAL ".
          (C) Saltykov-Shchedrin
          Which once again confirms the fact that our main enemy is ourselves, and not Americans, secret societies, etc.
        2. IgWest
          IgWest 13 May 2013 22: 06 New
          +1
          Porridge..! But worthy of respect.
  2. Dima190579
    Dima190579 13 May 2013 08: 17 New
    +6
    Hyperliberals have no conscience. They sold it under Gorbachev.
    1. Mairos
      Mairos 13 May 2013 16: 50 New
      +1
      What conscience? Mokhnatkin is a diagnosis! Moreover, requiring compulsory treatment at the logging.
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 13 May 2013 08: 18 New
    +4
    All these deputy chief executives of MK, "morgue projectors", and now artists of some muddy theaters, all this trash and mold with a swamp color, are trying to "enlighten people."
    It will not work for you, Herods, to deceive people who truly love their Motherland.
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 13 May 2013 08: 27 New
      +8
      Already obtained. I often meet ordinary young people who say that the money spent on the parade must be used up for a different purpose, that Hitler did not want to attack the USSR and even defended on the contrary - as it sounds strange. And these are people who simply derive knowledge from the Internet, all this is given out in pseudo-historical essays that "truthfully" tell the "truth" because before the bloody regime hid everything. And arguing with these people is very difficult. They do not accept the facts, they do not accept the documents - the viewers of those documents are stiff and so on.
      How it becomes scary. In 10 years (God forbid) we will perceive Hitler as a hero ... Brrr ...
      1. valokordin
        valokordin 13 May 2013 09: 04 New
        +6
        Quote: klimpopov
        it turns out. I often meet ordinary young people who say that the money spent on the parade must be used for another purpose, that Hitler did not want to attack the USSR and even defended on the contrary -

        You caught what these bastards are talking about, and Israel did self-defense to compare Israel’s blow to Syria and the deaths of 400 people. The general line is traced, is not it.
        1. cosmos111
          cosmos111 13 May 2013 09: 46 New
          +4
          Quote: valokordin
          xnumx man-Israel made self-defense

          If you count all the Jews in the government, administration, the media, the oligarchy, you get almost one hundred percent.
          What do you want? That they would be on the side of the Syrian people. In a just fight against international terrorism, Zionism and imperialism. They are all, as one for Israel.
    2. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 13 May 2013 08: 50 New
      15
      Let's create an experimental territory for liberals, House-2 already was. So, Zone-3. We collect there redids, artists, comedians and other ists. Let them build a model society on a single territory. (The security regime is enhanced so as not to run away from your ideas).
      1. afire
        afire 13 May 2013 09: 14 New
        +8
        apparently the time has come when it is necessary to write a letter of petition to Putin, so that he would tie with his "everything is decided by the court and only the court can ... blah blah blah" and is already engaged in cleaning the information crust with pus, otherwise our small dibiloids will cease altogether something to think about, and so the mat is rewind, cigarettes and beer, a pigsty after you, fu.
  4. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 13 May 2013 08: 26 New
    +8
    Stop mocking the story. Let all these “govnoterki” remain on the conscience of the leaders of these channels. Apparently they were born not from grandfathers and grandmothers who defeated fascism, but from she-wolves, who have no memory, conscience and nothing sacred. The most sacred thing for them is money. These people are flawed. I feel sorry for them. They are associated with me at the same level as patients with headaches with disabilities who suffer from Down and Alzheimer's disease. The only answer on our part to them is to boycott these channels. Do not watch for yourself and do not let your children watch. These channels are flattering and do not give anything good to people. And Pavel Volya - this “pennyuk”, if he is so smart, then at his request he could transfer his “benefit”. Now, for me, according to its rating, it has slipped to the level of sewage, and maybe even lower.
    And the Victory parades were held, are being held and will be held no matter what. While our memory is alive.
    1. soaring
      soaring 13 May 2013 10: 43 New
      +6
      Paul has a will, it’s a whooper ... He’s just a homosexual looking at the camera ... He would have better change his last name for a worm, more relevant for his appearance! The same gestures, like a worm in his foster care and place!
  5. ed65b
    ed65b 13 May 2013 08: 32 New
    18
    They forgot the RBC channel. There, Prokhorov’s sister has been broadcasting with her friends for about 5 days on a baggage train about the disastrous parades and rants about the meanness of the USSR. He lowers his brother’s rating with all his might. And this person wants to become the president of the country. With such a sister (and their thoughts are more likely the same) you can’t let him get close to the helm.
    1. urganov
      urganov 13 May 2013 20: 17 New
      -2
      You dear yourself listened to everything that Prokhorova says? A very worthy woman, of course not without some cockroaches ... but who now is without them at all?
  6. nikolas 83
    nikolas 83 13 May 2013 08: 32 New
    10
    2 channels showed the victory parade. The first and Russia. For the rest, there are only criminal militants and comedies. The people are degrading fool . Disrespect completely to the history of their country.
    1. valokordin
      valokordin 13 May 2013 09: 07 New
      +5
      Quote: nikolas 83
      The victory parade was shown by 2 channels. The first and Russia. For the rest, there are only criminal action films and comedies. The people are degrading fool. Disrespect is completely to the history of their country.

      As these defects and militants are fed up, there’s nothing more to show. Creative brains were worn out, it would be better if they showed Swan Lake.
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 13 May 2013 16: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: valokordin
        As these defects and militants are fed up, there’s nothing more to show. Creative brains were worn out, it would be better if they showed Swan Lake.


        Wow! It’s time for Swan Lake to watch through to the end. In 1991, it was possible to inspect only until the moment when Von Rothbart changes his appearance and with laughter turns into an evil demon ... And then to BM Park, prepare the BMP for the exit ... That's all.
    2. stroporez
      stroporez 13 May 2013 09: 17 New
      +1
      not ... well, what progress is there ---------- "Rimbaud" did not show ..........
    3. VP123
      VP123 13 May 2013 10: 33 New
      +4
      Our people are normal. Only the media want to convince him otherwise.
    4. xan
      xan 13 May 2013 14: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: nikolas 83
      People degrade fool. Disrespect for the history of their country.

      no screaming!
      normal people
      and who judges the people on TV programs, that boob
  7. treskoed
    treskoed 13 May 2013 08: 33 New
    +1
    The dog barks - the caravan is coming! I don’t even want to discuss!
  8. Boris55
    Boris55 13 May 2013 08: 35 New
    +2
    Eh-hu, MiKi-ki and other scum would it be nice to remember who freed their relatives from the death camps or are they eager for repetition? They will interrogate, since the memory has disappeared. Only now whether we want to save them again is another question.
  9. krasin
    krasin 13 May 2013 08: 37 New
    +5
    The caravan goes, only these dogs got divorced - they would have to open their teeth!
  10. Atlon
    Atlon 13 May 2013 08: 50 New
    10
    Comrades! Do not pay so much attention to the wretched. After all, they do not think at all what they say. Just a "trend like that." The louder he flicked, the brighter the PR. In the age of the Internet, when it is possible to instantly bring your vyser to the minds of millions, miserable losers use this opportunity to inflate their imaginary significance. But how to do it? Only scandalous, shocking statements! After all, in fact, they are nobody and there is no way to call them! And I want fame and fame. Again, maybe grantors will notice. It’s easier than real benefits and being recognized and appreciated by the masses. Came out, pulled, hamsters neighing, and it's in the hat! For now, some worthless Mokhnatkin is “famous”, and thousands of real people are discussing him ... The main thing is that he banged the stinker, then the approval is higher on the part of the same imbitsilov, and among normal people the degree of indignation is stronger. And as a result, everything is in profit! Such is the nature of modern information technologies ... Therefore, the less we discuss them, the less famous they are.
    1. afire
      afire 13 May 2013 09: 19 New
      +9
      then such worthless newspaper and radio stations need to be closed.
      What is a useful component of them for society? - no, only srach, abomination, meanness.
      CLOSE.
      Are you afraid of the stink?
      Ask for support on topwar, here the guys are modest, but they will show strength for a just cause ....
      1. Atlon
        Atlon 13 May 2013 10: 41 New
        +4
        Quote: afire
        CLOSE.

        Oh no no no! The same repression! 37th year! How dare you offer us such a thing ?! However, I agree with you all 100! It's time to introduce censorship.
        1. matross
          matross 13 May 2013 16: 09 New
          0
          Quote: Atlon
          It's time to censor

          Censorship is a troublesome and thankless task. Closing is easier and with a guarantee, revoke licenses and select frequencies. Leave 2-3 state channels, and broadcast another 3-5 harmlessly informative type Animal planet. With the Internet, it’s more difficult to just track and close. Although, it may be better for everyone to block all forums, blogs and social networks altogether. Yes, yes and topwar! All or nothing! The health of the nation is worth it. How do you like this idea?
          1. Atlon
            Atlon 13 May 2013 17: 56 New
            +2
            Quote: matRoss
            Closing is easier and with a guarantee, revoke licenses and select frequencies.

            Grounds? But he violated the requirements of the censors, who will have the rank of law, then yes ... Law, there is a law!

            Quote: matRoss
            With the Internet, it’s more difficult to just track and close.

            Read above ... By the way, Internet censorship, which liberoids shouted so loudly, is quite working. Sites and pages are instantly closed! Anyone who does business does not need graters with the state! The same bourgeois facebook, and that account is blocked, at the request of the Russian "censorship", so I do not see a problem.

            Quote: matRoss
            Although, it may be better for everyone to block all forums, blogs and social networks altogether. Yes, yes and topwar! All or nothing! The health of the nation is worth it. How do you like this idea?

            I think this is too dramatic. What for? Track - yes, censor - yes, close for violations. Gradually filter censorship, clear the muddy water of the liberoid swamp ...
            1. matross
              matross 13 May 2013 21: 51 New
              +1
              Quote: Atlon
              Grounds? But he violated the requirements of the censors, who will have the rank of law, then yes ... Law, there is a law!

              I am afraid that an independent censor, in our realities, will become a bird no less rare than an independent judge.
              Quote: Atlon
              I think this is too dramatic. What for?

              I agree with you that this is cardinal. But then Messrs. Mokhnatkins will not be able to broadcast their smells to hundreds of thousands of fragile minds. And also the problem of hamsters, trolls and other evil spirits will be solved. Children will detach from the screens and may start reading books, even with boredom. And the productivity of office workers will increase dramatically. And the health of a large part of the nation will improve. Or maybe even the birth rate among the urban population. Or this population, again out of boredom, will be drawn to agricultural labor. Or to science, technology and sports. Many useful things can happen. And no harmful ones. Correct if I am wrong. May truth be born in dispute.
    2. soaring
      soaring 13 May 2013 10: 47 New
      +2
      Atlon, I completely agree with you !!! good drinks
      1. Atlon
        Atlon 13 May 2013 10: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: soaring
        Atlon, I completely agree with you !!!

        hi drinks
        1. afire
          afire 13 May 2013 11: 15 New
          +2
          37 year old? Yes, do not care, the main thing is that in the country of these henchmen become less.
    3. shark
      shark 13 May 2013 11: 45 New
      +3
      Personally, I would prefer that Mokhnatkin receive his fame as a victim in the criminal chronicle. And it’s also interesting to look into the eyes of this creature and spit in the face
    4. xan
      xan 13 May 2013 14: 57 New
      0
      Quote: Atlon
      The main thing is that vyser is bungled stinky, then the approval from the same imbitsilov is higher, and among normal people the degree of indignation is stronger. And as a result, everything is in profit! Such is the nature of modern information technologies ... Therefore, the less we discuss them, the less famous they are.

      agree
      but such stinkers must be isolated from the media, it is imperative that there is such a structure in the government
  11. pahom54
    pahom54 13 May 2013 09: 03 New
    +9
    Guys, I am for a free Russia. But - not Bolotnaya ... I do not want Stalinism of the type of 37 years old, but I want to ask: DOCLE in the free Internet community will darn everything, even though a little good that we have in Russia? And the parade is not a parade, and Shoigu did not please ... Note that the main attacks are on those people who really work for the good of Russia, such as Putin and the same Shoigu. I know that he is a Tuvan (sorry if I made a mistake), so what ??? He has done much more for Russia than any swampy Russian!
    Something and somehow the mouth must be closed to those who want everything. After all, let them go to power - this will be the complete collapse of Russia as a country.
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 13 May 2013 09: 27 New
      +4
      Quote: pahom54
      new Russia. But - not Bolotnaya ... I do not want Stalinism like 37

      And I want the 37 year, for thieves and embezzlers.
      1. shark
        shark 13 May 2013 11: 46 New
        +3
        And I want 37 for liberals, a gay community and other hamsters
    2. stroporez
      stroporez 13 May 2013 10: 39 New
      +1
      100%. it doesn’t matter who will be in power, it doesn’t matter which state system ----- their goal is chaos
  12. valokordin
    valokordin 13 May 2013 09: 13 New
    +3
    Quote: pahom54
    Guys, I am for a free Russia. But - not Bolotnaya ... I do not want Stalinism like 37 years old, but I want to ask:

    Are you so scared of the year 1937? Someone probably scared you so much about the GDP, regarding the Serdyukov’s case. Unless we decisively turn the political course, which the liberals are so afraid of, frightening them for 37 years, we will witness the continuation of the plundering of the country, corruption from top to bottom and the emergence of new Serdyukov, Chubais, Veselberg, Surkov, and other best finance ministers in the world.
    1. vilenich
      vilenich 13 May 2013 09: 18 New
      +5
      Having read the critics of the parade involuntarily with quiet sadness you recall censorship. Yes, I agree that this is the wrong method, but it is also impermissible to let anyone who could hurt the Great Victory of the Soviet people over fascism!
      1. Atlon
        Atlon 13 May 2013 09: 22 New
        +4
        Quote: vilenich
        with quiet sadness you recall censorship. Yes, I agree. This is the wrong method.

        I don’t agree! This is the correct and effective method! ALL countries without exception apply it. But we, as schoolchildren who had reached for sneakers (at one time), still have not understood that censorship is an instrument that works for the country's security! In Russia, not freedom of speech, but anarchy! I say what I want and do not answer for anything! It can’t go on anymore.
        1. soaring
          soaring 13 May 2013 10: 51 New
          0
          Piss, shit and shoot where I want! And for this they do nothing to anyone or give a ridiculous fine! And this is already dangerous !!! And so sorry ...
      2. Colonel
        Colonel 13 May 2013 09: 32 New
        +6
        Israel should take an example. They invented the Holocaust and cut coupons from it. Admitted - pay, not admitted - your house is a prison. And for more than half a century we have been making excuses for our grandfathers, who, once again, have pulled the world out of shit.
        1. xan
          xan 13 May 2013 14: 52 New
          +2
          Quote: colonel
          And for more than half a century we have been making excuses for our grandfathers, who, once again, have pulled the world out of shit.

          no need to write "we"
          I personally do not make excuses, but proud
          at least someone to meet who doesn’t like victory - he would have cleaned his face, his hands have been itching for a long time
          1. Colonel
            Colonel 13 May 2013 17: 52 New
            +1
            I agree, “we justify” the poor wording. But if only they were “proud,” then any attack against Victory would end, at least with a broom in his hand, in forced labor, or even cooler. And so it all ends with our discussion, from which the Western proam are neither cold nor hot, Sorry. How many mugs have they cleaned up? That's it.
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  14. kazssr
    kazssr 13 May 2013 09: 33 New
    +5
    Their fathers didn’t fight much with a belt in their childhood. And could these not people (I have no other words for them) do this, huh?

    Orlovsky Kirill Prokofievich (30.01.1895/13.01.1968/XNUMX - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX)


    Orlovsky Kirill Prokofievich - truly a man of amazing fate. To begin with, it was he who became the prototype of the protagonist of the famous movie "Chairman", so masterfully performed by Mikhail Ulyanov. However, the real life of Orlovsky with his drama will give odds to any scenario!


    During the war, he was one of the leaders of the partisan movement in Belarus, leading the detachment operating in the Baranavichy region, which received the loud name "Falcons".


    In February 1943, during a military operation, Kirill Prokofievich Orlovsky was seriously wounded, as a result of which he lost the hands of both hands and lost hearing acuity by ¾. Nevertheless, the military operation was successfully completed, the Nazis suffered significant losses, and Orlovsky in September 1943 received the title Hero of the Soviet Union.


    And this is not the end of the story! The seething energy of Orlovsky did not allow him to rest on the laurels of the hero-partisan: he asked I.V. in a personal letter Stalin’s permission to stand at the helm of the poorest, most devastated collective farm in the Mogilev region of the Byelorussian SSR in order to turn him ... into a millionaire collective farm. And in January 1945, Kirill Prokofievich Orlovsky took over as chairman of the Dawn collective farm in the Kirov district of the Mogilev region. Needless to say, the new chairman has achieved the revival of the economy entrusted to him, and Dawn became the first millionaire collective farm in the postwar years? And Kirill Prokofievich Orlovsky in 1958 received the star of the Hero of Socialist Labor.
  15. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 13 May 2013 09: 36 New
    0
    Adolf and Josef approve of Russian TV am
  16. pensioner
    pensioner 13 May 2013 09: 54 New
    0
    Network hamsters of course a special thank you. But these bastards with a broken bottom will wait - even beavers will come.
  17. The gentleman
    The gentleman 13 May 2013 10: 14 New
    +1
    eh comrades. here I swear I don’t understand Russia (I don’t understand Russia with my mind). well, how so? why people at the helm of the state are in uniform, and they cannot put such characters in their place. everything talks about fascism, about Nazism, and how it comes to talking about the nation right away. why don’t they control the channels. why are they allowed to show comedy clubs on such a day? in my opinion, democracy has gone too far and it's time to introduce total censorship, strictly regulate any activity! I'm sorry, but I'm far from liberalism, democracy.
    1. VP123
      VP123 13 May 2013 10: 36 New
      0
      I think the vaccine. Everything is done right.
  18. riding
    riding 13 May 2013 10: 46 New
    +1
    If nothing is done, it will be worse. For 20 years they have already shot new vile films about the war and not only, in each of which there is a spit in our history, in our past. On May 9, there was practically no choice on TV: vile or cowardly political officers and envoys prevented true patriots who hate the Soviet system from gaining victory. Yes, in fact, all TV is now filthy. On the Internet, trash is even more.
  19. i12345
    i12345 13 May 2013 10: 53 New
    +8
    Victory Parade could not be taken by a person whose nationality is different from Russian

    My nationality is very different from Russian ... so what? I am for the Victory Parade !!!!
  20. ed65b
    ed65b 13 May 2013 11: 00 New
    +3
    And I liked the parade. And Shoigu well done. It was true that it was clear that he was worried, but this is normally the first parade in his life and what else. But the past with Taburetkin was complete. No, the parade itself is good, but as I saw a muzzle with greasy lips like a barbecue, eating so the mood went bad. So we went to all who are against our parade. And the Minister of Defense is now there, as it should be with gold epaulets and a hero. All.
    1. COBOK
      COBOK 13 May 2013 14: 31 New
      -1
      I think that three bodies will be brought upright next year and it will be normal, otherwise the Minister of Defense, iPhone and Putin look really obscene against the background of marching, passing and flying grounds for national pride in the sitting position. (Brezhnev, like taking parades standing). I am glad that they did not lie down.
      1. matross
        matross 13 May 2013 16: 24 New
        0
        You are confusing something. They stood.
        1. aviamed90
          aviamed90 13 May 2013 20: 29 New
          +1
          They stood the 1st part of the parade. And when the equipment went, they quietly sat down.
  21. Hort
    Hort 13 May 2013 11: 24 New
    +3
    in many respects the parades in the cities themselves were criticized, but their organization and attitude to the population.
    I won’t say anything about Moscow, but in terms of organization it wasn’t very much: the main square was surrounded by cordons and stalls (!), Instead of letting people walk quietly and watch the parade (many with children specially drove from the outskirts of the city), introduced some passes (most likely to the main podium and next to it). The parade itself lasted only 40 minutes, with the military marching and unfolding right in front of the podium with officials and deputies (well, at least veterans were put there), a crush appeared at the exits from the metro, and miraculously did not injure anyone. In general, the people spoke extremely negatively to the mayor with the governor and our valiant police force, which did not control human flows ...
  22. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 13 May 2013 11: 24 New
    +2
    Apparently the stool also has its fans, I wonder if there was at least one sensible minister in Medvedev’s office?
  23. Ivga_lis
    Ivga_lis 13 May 2013 12: 12 New
    +3
    The Victory Parade could not take a person whose nationality is different from Russian.

    Along the way, the fascist fraternity is in contact with big problems with geography - Tuva (south of Eastern Siberia) is no longer considered Russia ...
    And it was nice to look at Shoigu in a tunic with medals, not like Monsieur Taburetkin in a pinjack
  24. Bigriver
    Bigriver 13 May 2013 12: 15 New
    +1
    It is not necessary to fight with channels of influence on the minds, but work on the immunity of our rising generation.
    Liberal drooling and universal human stench will remain in society as long as it consists of individuals who are tolerant to all points of view. People with a face of general expression, Russian on the passport.
    We "lost" a huge part of our generation of the 90s and 2000s. As my grandmother said: "lost": ((
    School must be engaged in, education, upbringing. That requires a long, consistent and orderly process.
    If the vessel is empty, it is equally open: for both good and bad.
    It just hurts me to look at part of our youth.
  25. Shkodnik65
    Shkodnik65 13 May 2013 12: 24 New
    0
    I perfectly understand that prohibitions cannot solve problems, but still I would definitely close TNT, well, or remove it from the list of federal channels. And on cable and not so wed ... not enough, there he is among his own.
  26. Mhpv
    Mhpv 13 May 2013 12: 42 New
    +2
    Until I began to read the article and it wasn’t in my mind that the Victory Parade was not hosted by the Russian Defense Ministry. In this case, Serdyukov can also be ranked as an incomprehensible nation for his attitude to the Army and what iPhone did there then.
    The parade is good, because how the 1941 Parade influenced Hitler and in the 1945 Stalin himself had to accept, but he could no longer stay in the saddle and gave this right to Zhukov, but the obligatory attribute was a white horse, as a symbol of the winner.
    Let the whole blogosphere yell about something else, now I will describe it slightly.
    In the evening, he took the children to show fireworks to Victory Park, so as not to get in a car, we took the metro to Kutuzovsky (it’s useless). Along the road in the direction of Victory Park, along with everyone, were drunk migrants, who weren’t interested in the police on duty. there were two gastrics, one (more or less sober) gave way to me and the child next to me so the second one judging by the emotions (they spoke their own way) was indignant that he had given me a place.
    When I went to Victory Square, even the children were surprised, around five people scurry around like donkeys in a harness (again they say that Russians are alcoholics and they themselves eat like lepers until Allah sees it), all the paraphernalia (flags, etc. .) they sell the same little black migrants.
    In general, the feeling of a holiday in Moscow grew into a feeling of a holiday somewhere in Dushanbe or somewhere else.
    At the end of the events, Victory Park metro turned out to be closed and people with small children (fortunately I have 14 and 9 years), in a huge crowd, nearly two hours pushed on foot to Kiev metro 3,5km. My kids said no more to go there. impression of the holiday. hi soldier
  27. kind
    kind 13 May 2013 12: 54 New
    +3
    To allocate the "whole" five minutes of 9 air on May, dedicated to the memory of those who fell in the Great Patriotic War - how difficult it was for the TNT channel to make this decision ... And the regular audience of this channel, which obviously included those who in the Victory Parade began to search negative, it was even harder - I had to break away from the “Comedy Club” on 300 seconds a day ...

    I have already commented on the TNT channel, I repeat that the channel acts on the minds of youth as a solvent on paint. Almost all, the so-called Beau monde, the parasite in a rather perverse form on the ordinary disgusting phenomena of his own glamorous life. They impose a complex of behavior on youth, to put it mildly, moronic. In short, TV needs censorship, and many more good children's programs.
  28. aszzz888
    aszzz888 13 May 2013 12: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: klimpopov
    Already obtained. I often meet ordinary young people who say that the money spent on the parade must be used up for a different purpose, that Hitler did not want to attack the USSR and even defended on the contrary - as it sounds strange. And these are people who simply derive knowledge from the Internet, all this is given out in pseudo-historical essays that "truthfully" tell the "truth" because before the bloody regime hid everything. And arguing with these people is very difficult. They do not accept the facts, they do not accept the documents - the viewers of those documents are stiff and so on.
    How it becomes scary. In 10 years (God forbid) we will perceive Hitler as a hero ... Brrr ...


    You know, it seems to me that all the same there are more normal people, including young people. In any case, I want to believe in it. Otherwise ... Brrr ...
  29. nalexx
    nalexx 13 May 2013 13: 11 New
    +1
    There is a little topic
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  31. Zheka Varangian
    Zheka Varangian 13 May 2013 13: 53 New
    +3
    I watched the parade, I liked it very much, well, I think there will be one positive thing in the comments. But no, the shit was booming again: I do not swear, traffic jams due to the parade, new technology is not enough, etc. How much can you litter ??? What was better in the 90s-2000s? For me, the Great Victory Day Parade is an integral part of the holiday, and so we watched it with the whole family with pride in our army and our country. And those who don’t like something should go to Galicia- Bandera mourn
  32. Mhpv
    Mhpv 13 May 2013 14: 45 New
    +2
    For those who did not arrange Victory Parade 9May:
    "
    Activists filed a request for a gay parade to the city hall
    13.05.2013, 12: 35
    Twitter VKontakte Facebook Google+ Link Publish to blog Printable versionPrintable version

    Gay activists filed an application with the Moscow City Hall to hold the May 25 parade, RIA Novosti reports.

    According to Alexei Mayorov, head of the regional security department in the capital, the authorities will consider the application, but there is no certainty that it will be agreed. "We will consider the application within the time limits prescribed by law, but our position has not changed with regard to these events," Mayorov said.

    Recall that the LGBT community has been trying for several years to hold an action in Moscow in support of sexual minorities. However, not a single application was agreed by the authorities. "
    After all, dogs know when to feed. For these perverts, you can try to allow their processions in Gorky Park or VDNH on 28 on May, Navy Day and the sweetest day for them will be 2 on August (Airborne Forces Day), I think they won’t want to ask again
  33. Fitter65
    Fitter65 13 May 2013 15: 02 New
    0
    Quote: mhpv
    Gay activists applied to the Moscow City Hall for a parade on May 25,

    The mayor’s office now thinks how to reschedule the parade until May 28, so that the border guards would have another free-of-charge attraction at the expense of the Geyropei Leberasts. Actually, the defenders of our borders will relax to the fullest, and there will be no bad trepidation.
    And on the account that the bohemian roosters, forgive me the chicken’s husband, are trying to vulgarize THE GREAT DAY, it is necessary that the government should offer them a protest on August 2, then the paratroopers will have a rest.
  34. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 13 May 2013 15: 11 New
    0
    Miracles of the letter M are always and everywhere full, just before there were no “these of your Internet” and shit was not visible, and now every mother of his dropout considers it a duty to start a blog and teach us to love our homeless and miserable motherland. You just need to flip through them, because virtually they can not be reasoned, but one-on-one you can register a scoreboard.
    1. Zheka Varangian
      Zheka Varangian 13 May 2013 15: 26 New
      0
      It’s for sure, if there wasn’t the Internet, they just blew it under their breath. Or they smashed the TV with anger. laughing
  35. xan
    xan 13 May 2013 15: 14 New
    +1
    watched the movie "Sniper 2. Tungus"
    I liked the film, pleasantly surprised the actor playing the role of Tungus with an excellent game
  36. seller trucks
    seller trucks 13 May 2013 15: 26 New
    0
    Quote: Gentleman
    in my opinion, democracy has gone too far and it's time to introduce total censorship,


    you pushed me by one thought, a new rephrasing of the expression "In Life you need to try Everything except democracy, drugs and homosexuality"
  37. Boris55
    Boris55 13 May 2013 19: 22 New
    +2
    I came across this announcement. On the subject of a moment of silence. We have already discussed this, but it seems not to the end ...



    Read carefully. Once again about a moment of silence.

    The phrase inserted in the Minute of Silence:

    YOU WHOSE CLOSE AND NATURAL WENT THROUGH THE STALIN CASES, YOU RELEASED AUSCHIVEM, BUCHENWALD AND DHAHAU ...

    Not only is this phrase monstrous with the delusional mention of "Stalin's camps", it also has another "trifle" that is difficult to notice due to the shock caused by this absurd mention.
    But there are people who read texts carefully. I'm glad mrsender for the fact that he drew attention to this "trifle".

    The "trifle" is that. what Buchenwald and Dachau liberated by AMERICAN MILITARY, not Soviet.

    But what then does the phrase from Minutes of silence? - About. that in the "Stalinist camps" were the relatives of the Americans? On the intellectual level of the anti-Stalinists, confusing Gogol with Stykov-Shchedrin, and Ravensbrück and Sachsenhausen with Buchenwald and Dachau? About the address of the authors of this nonsense?

    Or, finally, this is a message from honest and competent authors who were FORCED to insert nonsense about Stalin's camps to other honest and competent people: DO NOT WORD DO NOT BELIEVE!

    I repeat once again: AUTHOR IN A STUDIO!

    PS. Well. and please distribute as widely as possible. This must be stopped!
  38. deman73
    deman73 13 May 2013 19: 56 New
    +1
    I propose to collect all these liberals and send them urgently to the construction sites of the national economy in Magadan laughing
  39. bilgesez
    bilgesez 13 May 2013 20: 16 New
    -3
    Change the state flag. We live under the Vlasov flag, and the parade beneath it has passed. Complete nonsense. Who defeated whom. And who are the winners-Vlasovites, headed by Putin. In fact, this flag should be banned as fascist symbols.
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 13 May 2013 20: 36 New
      +1
      bilgesez

      You are not right!

      Rummage in a network if it is interesting. And it’s not Vlasov’s flag at all!
      1. bilgesez
        bilgesez 13 May 2013 20: 40 New
        -1
        Hitler did not invent a swastika either. This flag is disgraced, it must be rejected.
        1. ed1968
          ed1968 13 May 2013 20: 42 New
          +1
          swastika or rather Kolovrat Slavic symbol
          1. bilgesez
            bilgesez 13 May 2013 20: 48 New
            0
            Yes, but everywhere banned as a Nazi symbol. Following this logic, the Vlasov-fascist flag should be banned.
  40. ed1968
    ed1968 13 May 2013 20: 52 New
    0
    if everything is forbidden and changed, then there will be nothing native Russian
  41. ed1968
    ed1968 13 May 2013 20: 55 New
    0
    and I agree the flag can be replaced by imperial black-yellow-white
    1. bilgesez
      bilgesez 13 May 2013 20: 58 New
      0
      I am against the prohibition of the swastika, but the flag needs to be changed. There were no victories under this flag, only defeat.
  42. ed1968
    ed1968 13 May 2013 21: 06 New
    0
    I hint about this to you and under the imperial flag, Russia won quite a few victories and became a great power.
    1. bilgesez
      bilgesez 13 May 2013 21: 19 New
      -1
      I have a slightly different opinion. The capital of Russia should be moved to one of the cities of Siberia, and the state flag of Russia to declare the current flag of Moscow.
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  44. Seraph
    Seraph 13 May 2013 22: 07 New
    0
    Every time I see the disgusting mug of the next liberalist - it turns from the heart. And when this mug opens its nasty mouth and something spews out syphilitic-purulent to my Motherland and my people - I want the return of the times of Ivan the Terrible and Stalin. Liberast is the main premise of totalitarianism. Any sane person would choose a dictatorship rather than their liberal bacchanalia of debauchery and lies. So you want in your lifetime to read in the "Izvestia" shooting lists with sore mouths of the names of "human rights defenders"
  45. tracer
    tracer 14 May 2013 05: 08 New
    +1
    When we talk about May 9th, we must and must talk about victory over Fascism. The ideas of mass robbery and subjugation of peoples in SLAVERY. Our people have not submitted. And fought all nationalities ... ALL nationalities of the former USSR. To say that “Kazhugetych” cannot accept the parade in “the sphere of his non-Russianness is the“ stupid nonsense ”of the Ivanes of Nichrome who do not know and do not remember”. In order not to get bogged down in national problems, we need a civilian "supranational idea", that is, exactly what was the "movement towards communism." But all those who disagree with this idea ... weed out the state. I think that it is the “supranational” idea of ​​unification that is in the air. Although, I swear to God, the idea of ​​Slavic unity is closer to my heart, and the construction of everything from this foundation is clearer and simpler to me. But "locked up" in the Slavic world delirium of stupid idiocy. The whole continent still speaks Russian. And do not use it in geopolitics ...... Dumb nonsense. Yes, all this, as my acquaintance Jew said, "tales about sweatshirts." Nevertheless ... Actually, I think.
    As soon as a national idea comes into the person’s personality (close to my heart, but not thinking), and this applies to a person of any nationality, a conflict immediately begins. Because we have been living for centuries in such a mess of peoples and cultures that "Mama Do not Cry." We all “were together” and then suddenly “bam.” By the way, for those who remember, I voted AGAINST. But no one heard my voice, as did millions of others then. And it has since begun. .. You can’t imagine how many “brilliant” and interesting people have left the mess and lawlessness of 90 years. DO NOT REPRESENT ..... Here and the Slavs, and Jews, and Armenians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, and .. all the nationalities of the USSR. I think that many scientists, specialists in various fields, unique programmers, can be returned from the former USSR with "good offers." A small example. My friend Igor, a former Muscovite, worked in a closed institution for the development of rockets, as he himself is vaguely saying "for the battlefield." Even behind the "glass on the hunt" DOES NOT SAY ANYTHING, only that, this and the history of the tests. And how many years have passed ..... since then. Another example .. Everyone, everyone .. knows the Blackbury company, and so the processors are being developed by one of our “former” Jews who were educated in Kharkov. These are just examples from my life. And how many of these .... Very many are ready to return ... Because for many of us .. Rodina, this is above all, and we will never be different, no matter how much money we are paid. The "emigrants" were leaving from the "lawlessness" and the deceit of politicians and the "economists" who had died from them.
  46. tracer
    tracer 14 May 2013 08: 20 New
    0
    Question in "Maths Classes"
    "I don't know if I want to join the army."
    That was my answer.
    I’m not completely busy, or rather I don’t know anything about who you are and where from. Go to the Army. This is my advice to you. As a former, but a Soviet soldier of the Airborne Forces I will say this. There is no one to defend our homeland except you. , for example, I have already left for a long time, and the age is not recruiting already. ))) But you grew up because our generation was not even protecting you who were born before. Go ... don't think. We are all different, but we are defending our homeland where you can, or maybe I was born. Good luck ... soldier. Be proud of this and never let the enemy return to your homeland.
    23:16
    If you have questions. Write to me., I’ll try to explain.

    Nurpais Orozulbaev
    23:16
    Golden words! I’m going all the way!




    Perhaps I can be proud.))))) And what did I do then? Told the truth? Tell the men the truth. At least to each other. It’s easier for us to understand the essence of things and faster. )))