Czech design of a new pistol-carbine: absolutely nothing superfluous

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Czech design of a new pistol-carbine: absolutely nothing superfluous
Pistollo 77°. Left side view. Photo by Pistollo.


“And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions, as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard because of their much speaking…”
Matthew 6:7-8




Weapon today. Several years ago, my series of articles about submachine guns from "different countries and nations"—and, naturally, from different eras—was published on our website. But time has passed, and new designs have emerged, some very interesting ones at that, so it's worth telling you about them. Or rather, about one interesting example of the Czech pistol-carbine, the "Pistollo 77°." It was introduced quite recently, and thus, one could say, represents one of the latest advances in weapons design.

First, a few words about its manufacturer. It's a startup called "Pistollo" from the Zlín Region in the Czech Republic. This region has a long tradition of gunmaking, so the emergence of a new gunmaker there is no surprise. The Czech Republic has always been renowned for its gunsmiths, as has been written about on the VO website many times.


This is what the carbine looks like on the right. Photo by Pistollo.

It's becoming increasingly difficult to invent anything new in weapons design these days. But design... It can be refined endlessly, creating ever newer weapons based on new material processing technologies, new materials themselves, improvements to various components, and, of course, changing societal views on what a "modern weapon" should be.


A bronze-painted carbine. It makes you imagine some sci-fi fighter like Boba Fett from Star Wars wielding it in similar bronze armor! Photo courtesy of Pistollo.

The Czech company "Pistollo" was created specifically for the project of creating an automatic carbine chambered for a pistol caliber, and one with a completely unusual appearance. Structurally, this weapon is literally assembled from "cubes"—that is, from well-known parts. However, they are enclosed in a somewhat unusual "shell." So, it's a nine-millimeter carbine with a Glock pistol magazine, but externally, it most resembles... an anti-drone rifle or even something like a weapon from a sci-fi movie—not earthly, but rather belonging to space aliens.


"Silver" version. Photo by Pistollo

That is, looking at it from the outside, so to speak, you'll see nothing but straight, parallel lines, as if it were originally drawn by some Cubist enthusiast. The angles, by the way, are also right angles. Mostly. Although there is a single 77° angle, it's dictated by the functional angle of the Glock magazines, which pistol-caliber gun designers most often use today as a basis for their reliability, affordability, and widespread use.


And this is what Pistollo 77° looks like in detail...

The key design feature is the modularity of all its components. The buttstock, forend, collimator, and top cover can all be easily removed and just as quickly and easily replaced with other parts. The "cube" principle is evident. At the same time, the weapon has virtually no protruding parts, and those that are present are strictly functional.

For example, you won't find a protruding bolt handle at 77°. It's there, located on the top cover of the forend, but it's designed to fold, meaning you have to press it first and only then operate the raised handle. For a concealed carry weapon, this is obviously a big plus, but for, say, home defense or practical shooting, it could very well be a minus. Speaking of the simplicity of the design, it allows, firstly, for lower production costs and, secondly, for easy modernization. Incidentally, the manufacturing technology of the new weapon is very modern, as are the materials it's made from. These are combinations of steel, duralumin, and plastic parts made using SLS 3D printing.


There's also an all-black, "aggressive" color option. But I personally like this "red" option! Photo courtesy of Pistollo.

The Pistollo 77°'s dimensions are 720 x 150 x 35 mm and weighs 3000 g. It's caliber is 9 mm, and the barrel length is 256 mm. It costs €3500. This pistol carbine should be a very good weapon for... target practice. This is because it has a comfortable stock, a heavy, short-recoil bolt, and a long forend, making it very comfortable to hold and aim with a long grip.

But, as I mentioned above, the modular design, I'm sure, will allow for options to suit any situation. Moreover, the forend is designed such that it can be removed along with the charging handle along the receiver's guides in just one movement, after which it can easily be replaced with another.


And this is what it looks like in the hands of a Czech girl. Her big eyes promise to fall in love with anyone who buys it. A nice, subtle advertisement. Photo by Pistollo.

The collimator sight module is also easily removed. Currently, the Pistollo 77° offers only one collimator type, which allows you to choose between a 2-MOA dot, a 32-MOA ring, or a combination of both. The sight also features a solar panel that automatically adjusts the reticle's brightness depending on ambient light levels. But this is just the beginning. It's quite possible that other sights will be added in the future.

This weapon also has a very amusing detail: the barrel cover, also known as a dust cover. It's obvious what it's for—to protect the barrel from "foreign objects." Incidentally, similar barrel covers were found on many 19th-century rifles. And they proved ineffective. Why did modern designers install them? The company's advertising brochure, however, states that the barrel cover visually signals that the weapon is in a safe condition and prevents the lock from being released until the cover is removed. It also gives the carbine, so to speak, a non-aggressive appearance. However, if this cover, when placed on the barrel, does allow a shot to be fired, then since people are people, and 80% of them, including shooters, are prone to forgetfulness and absent-mindedness, it's safe to say they'll forget to remove it and puncture the barrel with their first shot...

The 77° barrel also has a muzzle brake. This is despite the fact that the amount of gas produced by a 9mm pistol cartridge is very small. In such cases, a weight is simply screwed in its place. So, in the Pistollo 77°, a simple empty cylinder is screwed onto the barrel threads, which merely adds weight to the muzzle brake and prevents it from rising upward during firing. A suppressor could probably be attached in the same way, but one is not currently included.

If you read the numerous articles about this new development by Czech designers, you'll find it generally very positively rated. Moreover, many authorities praise it for its "non-aggressive" appearance. The fact is, for example, in Germany, carbines that resemble "assault rifles" are prohibited by law due to their... "intimidating appearance." Such "aggressive weapons" are only permitted for special forces units, who are dressed all in black and are supposed to intimidate the "bad guys" with their appearance alone.

Interestingly, there are even countries where the law requires police units to have automatic rifles or carbines with stocks and forends made of wood, and they must be light-colored. This is all so as not to frighten law-abiding citizens with weapons! So, for example, the forend of a civilian carbine in Germany cannot have any slits or cuts, as they make such a weapon look like a military weapon and could therefore frighten someone! Such concern for the mental health of their citizens is truly heartbreaking. It's simply moving.

It's clear that a man with a pink carbine, especially one with a flower print, is unlikely to frighten anyone; they'll likely think him crazy. But that's Russia. In the West, today's realities and, accordingly, the demands of a market economy are somewhat different. So, the "Pistollo 77°" presented by Czech gunsmiths doesn't really look all that much like a combat weapon; it doesn't have any intimidating notches, only "friendly" ones, and its colors are also quite festive. And, most likely, it's the Germans who will be most attracted to it. But personally, I wouldn't mind a red pistol-carbine either. It's light weight and comfortable to hold. It also accepts a variety of magazines, including the truly intimidating 50- and even 100-round disc magazines with their textured reinforcement ribs!


And these are magazines from Glock pistols...

However, the carbine is shipped to European markets with ten-round magazines (as required by the EU). However, it is fully compatible with Glock pistol magazines, including extended 33-round magazines.

The advertising brochure also informs us that the "Pistollo 77°" has three unique safety mechanisms. The barrel cap "does not allow the safety to be released until the cap is removed," so does this mean it's also "in use" and acts as one of the safety mechanisms? And the trigger mechanism has a mechanical striker lock, preventing accidental discharge.

P.S. The author and site administration express their gratitude to Pavel Blazhek, a representative of the Pistollo company, for the photographs and information provided.
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  1. +3
    1 March 2026 04: 37
    It's a bit big and won't fit in a handbag, which is what the design dictates. laughing
    1. +6
      1 March 2026 10: 10
      It's a bit big and won't fit in a handbag, which is what the design dictates.

      More like a child's backpack, judging by the design.
  2. +4
    1 March 2026 04: 37
    Structurally, this is a weapon that is literally assembled from “cubes,” that is, well-known parts
    A very dangerous toy, deadly dangerous....
  3. +6
    1 March 2026 04: 37
    These are combinations of steel, duralumin and plastic parts made using 3D printing using SLS technology.

    what
    For modern CNC machines with 20 axes this is a toy.
    Any rifle can be made... naturally, if they have the drawings and the program.
  4. + 24
    1 March 2026 04: 52
    Vyacheslav Olegovich! Don't take the Czechs at their word; they lie like they breathe! The Zlín region has never had a tradition of weapons production. They've never made anything decent there except shoes. Czech weapons are Uherský Brod, Brno, Prague, Strakonice, Pilsen, Vsetín. And all these cities are in completely different regions of the Czech Republic!
    As for this multicolored 'concoction,' in the two years since it was unveiled in the US at Shot Show, even in the bottomless American market, they've only managed to rack up about 150 orders! For the price they're asking, you could buy two decent pistol-caliber carbines in the US, with a huge selection of accessories, rather than this abomination with a single red dot sight.
    Moreover, most of those who had the chance to shoot from this “miracle” noted its terrible non-ergonomics.
    Even the Czech trade magazine Strelecka Revue, which traditionally praises any Czech product, published a rather scathing review of this design.
    1. + 10
      1 March 2026 05: 01
      A small addition. Vsetín is located in the Zlín region, but the only product produced there was the small Kevin self-defense pistol with a six-round 9x17mm magazine. The production volume was approximately 300-400 pistols per year. And about the same number of non-lethal "traumatic" caliber versions of this pistol were produced for European and CIS countries, where it is illegal to own a handgun.
    2. +2
      1 March 2026 11: 25
      Quote: Ironal
      a very devastating review of this design.

      I liked it... And what the Czechs wrote to me about traditions... well, such nonsense still has to be verified... Screw it! If they're lying, let it be on their conscience.
    3. +2
      2 March 2026 15: 41
      No one anywhere will buy a short-recoil carbine chambered for a Luger cartridge for $3500. In the US, for example, an AR-15 starts at $400.
  5. +3
    1 March 2026 04: 53
    I have two questions about this product. First, if it uses a Glock magazine, why bother with all this fuss? The Glock is lighter, more compact, and has a concealed carry option.
    And the second question, they came up with a red machine gun for dandies, where would you go with it...
    1. icy
      +8
      1 March 2026 09: 29
      With a red machine gun you need to wear a green suit with a red tie, and... to any party.
      1. +1
        1 March 2026 23: 32
        A crimson jacket and a 3kg gold chain will go very well with the red Pistorius, or whatever his name is... Pistollo...
    2. +3
      1 March 2026 10: 51
      Quote: Mikhail-Ivanov
      And the second question, they came up with a red machine gun for dandies, where would you go with it...

      Or for private security companies - so that it can be seen from afar that they are armed
      1. +3
        1 March 2026 11: 26
        Quote: your1970
        for private security companies

        Good idea!
  6. +6
    1 March 2026 05: 02
    In red, especially for a blonde in a red Ferrari from the 80s... Isn't she just like a James Bond girl?!
    1. +4
      1 March 2026 05: 30
      Quote: Victor Alien
      What's not to love about James Bond's girl?!

      From the Czech Republic with love. smile
  7. +2
    1 March 2026 05: 28
    The advertising is almost like that of lace panties. The only thing is, the cartridge this wonder weapon uses isn't specified. The 9mm caliber is used by both the 9x17 and 9x21, which are quite different.
    p.s. Why is there no description of a rainbow-colored variant for "combat * (LGBT)" weapons? wassat
    1. +4
      1 March 2026 08: 29
      So far, there's only one caliber, 9x19, also known as 9mm Luger or 9mm Para. Moreover, the manual for this marvel states that the manufacturer does not guarantee reliable/safe operation with 9mm NATO or +P, +P+ cartridges. It only works with cartridges for the civilian/commercial market.
    2. +1
      1 March 2026 11: 27
      Quote: Amateur
      What cartridge does this wonder weapon use?

      9x19
  8. -3
    1 March 2026 06: 14
    The barrel is higher than the buttstock, and the design itself is ripped off from the folding "walkie-talkie" - the PP-90. In fact)))
    1. +3
      1 March 2026 11: 57
      The PP-90 was a Russian variation on the ARES FMG, developed back in 1986 (the PP-90 came a few years later). True, the American version was produced either as a few prototypes or in a small series, as the US significantly tightened the production and sales of fully automatic weapons in 1986. The PP-90, however, was a more successful design from Tula, and several thousand were produced. There were complaints about its ergonomics and reliability (mostly about the crooked handles of the then police officers). However, it remains in service with the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Russian National Guard, and continues to serve in Kazakhstan (with unknown results).
      1. 0
        1 March 2026 12: 08
        Well, yeah, that's another matter. But special equipment is special because it's designed for specific tasks; otherwise, it can be clumsy. And there were two tasks there: to shoot and not look like a weapon.
      2. 0
        1 March 2026 23: 35
        Yeah, the PP-90 was definitely a stroke of luck, when the magazine from one might not fit the next. In my opinion, the good old Stechkin was better.
  9. +3
    1 March 2026 07: 04
    Hmmm...! Try saying this: Promising to marry is not actually getting married! The saying is outdated!
  10. +3
    1 March 2026 07: 16
    Good morning everyone!
    A short review of the product:
    A funny product, it looks like it was made of Lego.
    But, in appearance, our "grandfather," the AK-47, is more grippy and ergonomic. It loves affection, after all, and here, all those angles, all those angles...
    Regarding the commercial prospects of making a 3D machine gun, it’s madness; to develop it, yes, but not to produce it.
    The AK-47, for example, is a lathe-milled machine—for anyone who's ever held one, it's a heavy thing, and the receiver is heavy. It's an expensive pleasure. The AK-74, on the other hand, is stamped, and the closer it gets to the 90s, the simpler it gets. The AK-12—its stamped design reminds me of models from the early 80s. So, these are cheap to produce. The Saiga, for example, costs 67 rubles.
    $3500 is outrageous; to be successful on the market, a Lego like this should cost $500-600, maximum.
    Regarding the number of parts, a significant aspect, it's again inferior to the "grandfather" AK. Judging by them, a COMPLETE disassembly is no easy task. With the AK—I've already forgotten exactly—it took about three minutes, usually with the stock removed. A complete disassembly here definitely won't be done in that time, though it's like Lego.
    It's beautiful for a 70s Star Wars movie, but...
    1. +7
      1 March 2026 08: 33
      Well, a complete disassembly of an AK in 3 minutes—that's certainly enough. If you mean a complete disassembly, including disassembling the trigger mechanism and pressing out the barrel, which not all gunsmiths can do in a workshop. That's a minimum 20-30 minute job.
      And partial disassembly of the AK according to the standards from 15 (excellent) to 19 seconds (satisfactory)!
      Only the buttstock doesn't come off there!!!
      1. +1
        1 March 2026 14: 04
        Firstly, complete disassembly does not imply any pressing out of the barrel.
        And yes, three minutes for complete disassembly in a workshop.
        Are you a gunsmith?
        1. +1
          1 March 2026 14: 39
          And for what purpose are you interested in?
          No, not a gunsmith. More of a practitioner. But NSDs, manuals, and repair guides, including those for assault rifles, were thoroughly drilled into us. And a complete field disassembly, if you're referring to it from the manuals (except for repairs in a workshop, which are covered in repair manuals), doesn't involve separating the stock. It only involves disassembling the return mechanism, the bolt, removing the trigger mechanism components (under the supervision of an officer or senior foreman), and removing the forend. Removing the stock, however, is a disassembly procedure performed in a workshop or at the factory for repair, where the assault rifle could be completely disassembled, in accordance with the repair manual.
          That's how it is, Master.
          Sorry.
          1. +2
            1 March 2026 15: 30
            Sorry.

            Of course, I apologize.
    2. +4
      1 March 2026 08: 40
      And for trying to remove the buttstock, any sergeant/military commander would have given you such a slap in the face that you would remember it for a long time.
      Only on the first version of the AK-12 could the buttstock be removed from the receiver, but according to the instructions for partial disassembly this was not done.
      1. 0
        1 March 2026 14: 05
        And for trying to remove the buttstock, any sergeant/military commander would have given you such a slap in the face that you would remember it for a long time.

        what sergeant?
        Think before you type.
        My specialty was senior master of firearms and close combat weapons.
    3. 0
      1 March 2026 09: 04
      Regarding the receiver. The AK (the AK-47 was only in testing, after it was officially adopted, only the AK!) had three types during production: stamped and milled. The AKM, AK-74, and all subsequent AKs only had stamped receivers. Regarding the AK-12, they're only in their third version during production, and I've personally held four versions of the ones that were developed and tested before they were adopted. And believe me, the AK-12 that's being shipped now is significantly different from the one that was initially adopted, in terms of build quality and details. And even more so from the version that was presented for the first tests in 2012. More so than the AK-46 (specifically, the 46, you can see it in St. Petersburg at the Artillery Museum) from the AKM, which was adopted in 1959 to replace the AK.
      1. +1
        1 March 2026 14: 09
        The AK (AK-47 only had it during testing, after it was officially adopted into service - only the AK!)
        Gunsmiths always called it 7,62mm-AK-47 to distinguish it from 7,62mm-AKM or 5,45mm-AK-74.
        An entire regiment of gunsmiths in training didn't know this, but you opened our eyes here.
        1. -1
          1 March 2026 14: 43
          Half of our country calls the Erma MP-38/40 "Schmeisser", but that doesn't mean it's correct.
          1. +1
            1 March 2026 15: 48
            Half of our country calls the Erma MP-38/40 "Schmeisser", but that doesn't mean it's correct.

            You are a prominent theorist, and I am talking to you about practice, as was customary in the arms regiment.
            Our sergeant would definitely make you do push-ups for confusing the definition. laughing
        2. 0
          1 March 2026 14: 53
          And, if possible, in what years did the armorer regiment in training distinguish the AK-47 from both the AKM and the AK-74? I'm experiencing mild cognitive dissonance. By the time the AK-74 was saturated in the troops, only the AKM remained in combat units; all the AKs had long since been stored in storage.
          1. +1
            1 March 2026 15: 33
            Now you are all talking about theory, about saturation.
            And in the training regiment we learned to repair all types from AK-47 to AK-74.
            Even RPD...
            November 1986, XNUMX
            "Don't pick up a weapon you don't know."
            1. +4
              1 March 2026 16: 00
              Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
              And we studied in the training regiment

              And at the 6th Language Gymnasium (then a special school), where I studied from 1962 to 1972, in military translation classes, we had AK-47s, AKMs, and... the Bren. Now that's a machine gun...
              1. 0
                1 March 2026 16: 32
                Vyacheslav Olegovich, I agree! It's a great product! And the same Czech design is at the core. Zbrojovka Brno vz. 30. A slightly redesigned version of the vz. 26. It's still in use in some places. Although mostly Canadian-made.
                Our school had its own shooting range and a separate military training class. And a weapons room. Besides the AK, SKS, SVD, RPK, RPD, and PK, it had training SVT, PPSh, TT, Mosin rifles and carbines, Maxim and Goryunov machine guns, and even anti-tank rifles. But there was no Nagant!
        3. 0
          1 March 2026 15: 14
          And, Master Master, if you've removed the stock often, could you tell me the difference between the AK stock mount and the AKM and AK-74? If you're a gunsmith, the question is a piece of cake.
          1. +1
            1 March 2026 15: 44
            I won't lie - I don't remember. So many years have passed - my head was somehow busy not removing the stock.
            Unscrew the screw and knock it out with a mallet using a special hook; they're made of wood, after all...
            In training, as I wrote above, I did a complete disassembly of all the types you listed, as well as machine guns and RPGs with AGS.
            I've done repairs to three companies in the unit, meaning I've done repairs and upgrades to the entire battalion's small arms: I've completely disassembled and reassembled, with a colleague, about 210 assault rifles. I've also removed the stocks - all AK-74s, not counting the routine repairs. The stock was crushed by an armored personnel carrier, but the assault rifle remained intact, etc.
            Yes, by the way, we had AKs with wooden butts, and in 1988 we received AK-74s with plastic ones.
            P.S. How often did you use the AK-12?
            1. -1
              1 March 2026 16: 11
              Well, first of all, the buttstock mount on the AK, AKM, and AK-74 has not one, but two screws!
              Secondly, only the AK had wooden stocks; the AKM and AK-74 first had plywood stocks, then plastic ones.
              Thirdly, in the subcortex, the AK has a buttstock with two blades, one on top and one on the bottom, hence the screws on the top and bottom. The AKM has a single blade and two screws for fastening on the top.
              Fourthly, I am not a theorist, I am more of a practitioner, and for the last 40 years I have been regularly using all of our weapons, so I know.
              Fifth, I wonder where there was a training regiment of gunsmiths in the USSR? I've never heard of one. At most, training companies.
              And finally, sixthly, citizen E.D. Vashchenko, if this is indeed you. If you defended your dissertation in 2000 and published a book about the Khazars in 2006, then you could not have served in the army in 1986, since, judging by the available photos, you were about the age of a schoolchild in 1986.
              That's it.
              I've been using the AK-12 practically since its inception, from the very first "Zlobin" version right up to the latest, the so-called "AK-12 mod. 23g," with a new aperture and without the silly two-shot cutoff.
              1. 0
                1 March 2026 16: 39
                That's it.

                You couldn't possibly serve in the army.
                good

                I could barely catch my breath from laughing. How could I not serve? Did I dream it? And did I dream about the military ID?

                When there is nothing to say in response, they always resort to personal attacks:tinned, did not serve, wrote, did not write. Therefore, I will stop the dialogue with you: learn to communicate without resorting to personal attacks, contact me.
                1. -1
                  1 March 2026 17: 57
                  Well, this isn't even funny. Everything is completely based on Western manuals. He didn't answer a single question directly, or didn't answer it at all. And then there are unfounded accusations of things that never happened. I can even guess where this citizen teaches – either at HSE or RANEPA. I think they've purged such liberals from the other universities.
                  Is it true that the senior master gunsmith is hurting your eyes? What kind of troops did this soldier serve in, the armchair ones?!
    4. +3
      1 March 2026 11: 31
      Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
      Handsomely,

      Dear Eduard! I'm not suggesting you buy it. It's just information, nothing more. I like the color red—it's probably in my brain that they like red.
      1. +2
        1 March 2026 14: 01
        Vyacheslav Olegovich, good afternoon,
        I'm not against the article - I really liked the article.
        I just gave my assessment of the "car".
        Best regards,
        hi
        1. +2
          1 March 2026 15: 57
          Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
          I just gave my assessment of the "car".

          That's perfectly understandable. I just like red - ha-ha.
          1. +3
            1 March 2026 16: 02
            I just like red -ha-ha.

            You can't argue with that. I didn't respond to your article yesterday: the Dresden foot knights are just the right red and yellow decoration, beautiful.
            1. +3
              1 March 2026 16: 03
              Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
              just a red and yellow decoration

              Apparently there were many like me in the past!
  11. 0
    1 March 2026 07: 22
    They're "inventing" the bicycle again... that is, the "pistol-carbine"? What's wrong with a concept that's been around since the last century, offering the owner of a pistol... say, a Glock, an "add-on" with a buttstock, a barrel extension, a grip...? An attachment that "turns" a pistol into a carbine? But if you commission a craftsman to transform a semi-automatic pistol into an automatic one, and add a drum magazine for, say, 50-60 rounds, then you could actually go to the SVO with such a submachine gun! 2 in 1!
    1. +3
      1 March 2026 08: 16
      PCC (Pistol Caliber Carbine) - a carbine chambered for a pistol caliber cartridge - is essentially a submachine gun without the burst-fire feature, intended for sale to those legally prohibited from owning fully automatic weapons (police and private security companies in some countries, as well as civilians). However, there are also a number of models specifically designed as semi-automatic weapons.
    2. +2
      1 March 2026 08: 23
      The idea of ​​making a carbine out of a pistol is much older than the last century. As early as the 18th century, flintlock pistols with detachable stocks were tested and even adopted by a number of armies. Later, the same was done with percussion cap pistols, revolvers, and self-loading pistols, including versions with extended barrels. For example, a carbine with a detachable stock based on the Luger (aka P-08, aka "Parabellum") with an extended barrel (even longer than the "artillery" model) and a forend under the barrel.
      1. 0
        1 March 2026 09: 08
        The Picatinny rail that the military loves so much is not visible.
        1. +1
          1 March 2026 09: 18
          Western militaries have long been fond of the M-Lock. But making a reliable Picatinny rail on a PCC made of 3D plastic that won't warp when trying to attach anything heavier than 200 grams is nearly impossible, given that the plastic wall thickness is 1.5-2 mm. And anyway, this project was primarily designed for sales in those American and European states where anything resembling "scary tactical/assault/military" is strictly a no-no!!! But it didn't take off. The liberal crowd didn't embrace it, even despite the trendy, tolerant color schemes.
      2. +1
        1 March 2026 10: 22
        Quote: Ironal
        PCC - Pistol Caliber Carabine - a carbine chambered for a pistol caliber cartridge - these are basically submachine guns that lack the burst-fire function,

        Quote: Ironal
        The idea of ​​making a carbine out of a pistol is much older than the last century.

        You don't get it! What I "commented on" is "different"! It's not a pistol with an extended barrel and a detachable stock like the Luger! It's not a "civilian" carbine based on a combat submachine gun! I don't have time right now, but if I have time, I'll try to explain the difference soon!
      3. +1
        1 March 2026 11: 33
        Quote: Ironal
        flintlock pistols with detachable stocks.

        We have one like that at the Penza Museum of Local History. But I didn't take a photo of it or write about it because it's seriously damaged.
    3. 0
      1 March 2026 19: 28
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      They're reinventing the bicycle... or rather, the "pistol-carbine"? What's wrong with a concept that's been around since the last century, offering the owner of a pistol... say, a Glock, an "attachment" with a stock, a barrel extension, a grip...? An attachment that "turns" a pistol into a carbine?
      I just don't understand these kinds of distortions! The pistol's compactness is lost, but its lethality and range are not gained. What's all this for?
      1. -1
        1 March 2026 21: 47
        Quote: bk0010
        I just don't understand these kinds of distortions! The pistol's compactness is lost, but its lethality and range are not gained. What's all this for?

        You haven't done all the math! Your arguments are flawed! Kits are popular in countries and services where pistols are the only standard weapons! Bureaucratic regulations in these countries, governing the activities of certain services, may permit the use of pistols without permitting carbines and submachine guns, but they don't prohibit the use of kits, as they aren't considered weapons, but rather accessories like holsters! At the same time, pistols equipped with kits actually have a longer sighting range thanks to the buttstock, grip, and red dot or optical sights! It's precisely the ability to use additional "bells and whistles" that improve shooting quality that attracts pistol owners to kits! And the Picatinny rails on kits can accommodate a wide range of attachments! Laser sights, collimator and optical sights, tactical flashlight, video camera (!)...... A police officer in civilian clothes can carry out a mission with a concealed pistol, and keep the kit ready in the car and use it when the urge arises!
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    1 March 2026 09: 04
    Why a carbine? It's just a submachine gun.
  13. +2
    1 March 2026 10: 42
    Kits for converting a pistol into a lightweight carbine have long been known and used, ranging from the simplest, where only a stock is attached, to more complex ones. There are quite a few such kits for the Glock.
    1. +2
      1 March 2026 10: 53
      You're a bit ahead of me. I was just about to write about this.
    2. +2
      1 March 2026 10: 55
      You're right...it's a carbine kit! ........................................
  14. Lad
    +1
    1 March 2026 13: 19
    Original design. The Czechs are great. I think this kind of design is called "clean line." The Czech Republic is a small country, and they don't have the ability to push their product around the world through political or economic pressure. So they have to make something that people actually want to buy—they have to be smart. And they try. They have a lot of original things. It's all about creating, inventing, and trying. For one thing to really take off, you have to try many things. Incidentally, sometimes some ideas just don't work out for one small reason. And the product doesn't sell. Then another company tries the same project with very minor changes, and it suddenly takes off. They even go so far as to simply change the advertising and the product sells. It's very rare that everything works out all at once.
  15. +1
    1 March 2026 15: 45
    We'll see him in some movie soon) That's usually how it always happens)))
  16. +1
    1 March 2026 18: 37
    I consider the EU's requirement for "non-threatening weapons" to be utter nonsense. Weapons should appear dangerous, if only to reduce the risk of careless handling or aggression against armed individuals.
    I can hardly imagine the reaction of an attacker who is being stopped with a little pink thing like this (for example).
    As for the girl, it's entirely possible I saw her mother (perhaps it was in '14) or her herself, if the photo is from a fairly old age. The Prague-Český Krumlov commuter train. We traveled quite a distance (by Czech standards). She was sitting about 3 meters across from me. Her face is perfectly normal, though, quite typical. I could be mistaken.
    So, after mentally turning it over and over (the carbine, not the girl), I realized that, despite my interest in guns, this particular one holds little interest for me personally. I can completely understand American buyers. Even without regard for price. Its sleek lines... Just try to imagine running with it through the woods somewhere, or crawling. Recreational shooting at the range? Yeah, maybe. How would a child react? Especially if they accidentally turned their back?
    In my opinion, it's an attempt to stand out. To be original. And thus attract a potential buyer? Most likely... I don't know about its technological advancements, but there are probably issues with rigidity. Well, it's not really a sniper rifle, after all.
  17. +1
    1 March 2026 20: 19
    Some kind of crap for EU tolerants... a carbine that looks like a child's toy. Weapons have always been made for efficiency, that is, lethality. Then they were enhanced with beauty. And this combination of perfection/efficiency/beauty even allows one to forgive outright kitsch, like the golden AK and its ilk.
  18. 0
    1 March 2026 23: 42
    In Germany, the law banning civilian weapons resembling military automatic weapons was long ago repealed. Tactics are yours to enjoy.
  19. 0
    8 May 2026 18: 03
    I'm embarrassed to ask, why the red color?