A. Atambaev - "a wolf in sheep's clothing"

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A. Atambaev - "a wolf in sheep's clothing"On May 1, the Kyrgyz authorities officially banned Russian citizen political scientist Alexander Knyazev, who permanently resides in Bishkek, from entering his territory.

In his opinion, this is a multipurpose action. The public declarations of the President of Kyrgyzstan Atambayev on the special attitude to Russia, on adherence to the integration processes with Russia, Kazakhstan, Belarus are only declarations, this is a public policy, but there is also realpolitik, in this part Atambayev realizes only his own interests, determined by his influence openly anti-Russian environment and his personal selfish dependence on the leadership of Turkey. There is the personal business of the Kyrgyz president, everything is under the control of Ankara, it was not by chance that Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan’s last visit to Bishkek changed Atambayev’s many tonalities. He is already ready to build hydropower plants with Turkish companies, rather than Russian ones, and the Turks will provide the transformation of the notorious Manas Airport, etc. "A wolf in sheep's clothing" - this expression would probably fit Atambaev, except for the fact that the wolf is an animal strong enough, proud and purposeful ...

Talking about reckless entry into the CU is a tactic of the “Trojan horse” sent by Washington strategists to disintegrate Eurasian already difficultly advancing integration processes. So, such a situation is in the hands of such advisers as the well-known state department lobbyist Roza Otunbayeva. By the way, she lives on obscure grounds on the territory of the Ala-Archa state residence in the mansion next to the president, having great opportunities to correct his course in time ... She has a holiday today, like their other neighbor in the state residence - the main nationalist in the Republic of Emilbek Kaptagaev, or the curator of the power structures of Shamil Atakhanov, who is not perceived by any of these departments as a leader ... These are people who determine the policy of the state.

A few months ago, A. Knyazev was the first to voice the joint Kyrgyz-American plans to build a new American electronic intelligence complex in Bishkek (crossing Manas Avenue and the South Main Line on the southern outskirts of the Kyrgyz capital) and at the same time to transfer several hundred servicemen from the US to diplomatic status. the airbase at the airport "Manas" serving this intelligence equipment. He also talked a lot and actively and wrote lately about the doubtfulness of Russia's implementation in partnership with this unreliable Kyrgyz leadership of large-scale hydropower projects.

An absolutely similar tactic is traced with the one that was implemented by the entourage of ex-President Bakiyev on the eve of his collapse - the murder of politicians and journalists, the blocking of Internet resources, etc. Until the killings, thank God, it does not reach, but there is a curious moment in this tactic. Anything that is essentially oriented towards the Russian or somehow connected to Russia is punishable. Voicing the interests of the United States, even if it contradicts the national interests of Kyrgyzstan, is not punishable, this information trend is clothed in a good propaganda shell through several thousand pro-Western non-governmental organizations and a few dozen of the same media grown in the post-Soviet period. However, this is still a multi-vector approach, but there is a tendency to narrow it in favor of following the interests of the West.
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  1. +14
    10 May 2013 16: 04
    This uncle seems to follow Saakashvili’s path, I hope he won’t get to the war. Kazakhstan needs to prepare for problems.
    1. djon3volta
      -8
      10 May 2013 16: 17
      Quote: Canep
      Kazakhstan needs to prepare for problems.

      UNKNOWN: WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO KAZAKHSTAN IN THE EVENT OF NAZARBAYEV'S DEATH: OPINIONS OF BLOGGERS
      Nazarbayev is mortally ill? The president of Kazakhstan has only six months to a year left to live, the Republican newspaper reported on April 3. Such a forecast, coupled with the sensational details of the operation, the publication was informed by an informed reader. The successor, he said, will be presented to the world just about.

      continued here http://www.iarex.ru/interviews/35569.html
      1. +2
        10 May 2013 16: 22
        See the biography of today's Prime Minister of Kazakhstan on Wikipedia. I think he is the receiver.
      2. 0
        11 May 2013 05: 51
        stupidity, about Turkmenistan, too, they said so in due time about Turkmenbashi.
      3. 0
        11 May 2013 07: 04
        After Nazarbayev they’ll try to play a thread like Libya
    2. +7
      10 May 2013 16: 20
      Quote: Canep
      This uncle seems to follow Saakashvili’s path, I hope he won’t get to the war. Kazakhstan needs to prepare for problems.

      We also need to prepare, even first of all to us.
      1. yak69
        +17
        10 May 2013 19: 33
        Quote: A. Yaga
        We need to prepare .... first of all !!

        As a person born in the East, having absorbed the culture of the East, which is called mother’s milk, I can say the following: the East understands and recognizes ONLY FORCE! Moreover, the FORCE is uncompromising, not hesitating and cruel. As soon as the games of humanism and democracy begin, EVERYTHING is the end of order. Even in Soviet times, hierarchical subordination was strictly observed and the violation was severely and immediately punished (in various ways).
        So, as long as we chew snot and play at equality and democracy, we will always be "fully owned" by all these Atambayev-Karimov-Rakhmonovs and others like them!
        Only a tough and consistent position + Russian proteges will ensure us order in relations and integration in Central Asia.
        This is our region (since imperial times) and we need to conduct business there on a businesslike basis.
        1. +1
          10 May 2013 23: 12
          everything is clear as a white day, this is a custom-made, yet another psychiatric hospital, the yellow ones hope for hospitable people from America and Europe and they spit on relations with Russia ..... whoever gives the babas more, all the same, these babas won't go nowhere except their own pockets, but they spit on their people, where they will be in Russia, or in Turkey .....


          ,
    3. +4
      10 May 2013 16: 45
      Quote: Canep
      Kazakhstan needs to prepare for problems.

      And where does Kazakhstan, if we are talking about Kyrgyzstan?
      1. +2
        10 May 2013 17: 21
        Kyrgyzstan borders with Kazakhstan, and is tightly connected economically. Sharp maneuvers in Kyrgyzstan will affect Kazakhstan.
        1. +2
          10 May 2013 17: 31
          Quote: Canep
          will affect Kazakhstan.

          In general, they won’t be reflected in any way. Yes, and vryatli Kyrgyzstan will maneuver a bit, they’re so tired of the Bakiyev and Akayev maneuvers ... and the republic will not sustain another roll.
          1. +2
            10 May 2013 17: 47
            I would like to hope so, your presidents honestly already got the Kyrgyz people.
        2. +4
          10 May 2013 18: 13
          Quoting Minesweeper:
          "Sharp maneuvers in Kyrgyzstan will affect Kazakhstan."

          What are you guys talking about? Kyrgyz
          economic, political, military, and geographic significance, even in kilowatts, even in carats, even in square kilometers, is not comparable with Kazakhstan. The only thing that is debatable, but related these peoples is the southern zhuz of Kazakhstan and sowing. territory of Kyrgyzstan. The dependence of Kazakhstan on Kyrgyzstan is excluded, rather the opposite.
    4. NOBODY EXCEPT US
      -1
      10 May 2013 23: 52
      An ardent Kazakh got out ....
  2. +2
    10 May 2013 16: 09
    But why does Mr. Knyazev, a citizen of Russia, always live in Bishkek?
    1. +5
      10 May 2013 16: 39
      Quote: Vladimirets
      But why does Mr. Knyazev, a citizen of Russia, always live in Bishkek?

      I also have Russian neighbors 5 years ago who left for Kyrgyzstan. Retirees.
      We came to my daughter this year and it seems that they are not going to return. For our northern pension, they live quite well there. Nobody says that we are not oppressed. winked
    2. +12
      10 May 2013 16: 52
      And there are thousands of them here, they are working, they are preserving Russian culture, and indeed the empire is not letting their territories completely be lost. So far we have succeeded ...
    3. +4
      10 May 2013 16: 53
      Quote: Vladimirets
      But why does Mr. Knyazev, a citizen of Russia, always live in Bishkek?

      What is surprising, many Russian citizens of different nationalities permanently reside in Kyrgyzstan, probably more than 100000. I don't particularly like Knyazev's articles, but it's not about him, but about the systematic gagging of those dissatisfied with the Bai rule. Access to information. Ferghana.ru agency was blocked, among other things, for not "correctly" covering the topic of the massacres in Osh and Jalalabad in 2010 and the role of some Kyrgyz officials in it.
    4. +3
      10 May 2013 18: 19
      Quote: Vladimirets
      But why does Mr. Knyazev, a citizen of Russia, always live in Bishkek?

      So what? I, Russian, was born and lived for 41 years in Frunze, which was then renamed Bishkek. I took Russian citizenship in 1998, and left for Russia in 2004.
  3. optimist
    +11
    10 May 2013 16: 10
    How many wolves do not feed ... The only question for the Russian authorities: is it really not clear at the top that black ... pyes do not understand normal language and relationships? That some kind of "club" should always hang over them? All these our former southern "neighbors" are rams who have rolled into feudalism after the collapse of the USSR!
  4. +6
    10 May 2013 16: 10
    To speed up the entry of Kyrgyzstan and other countries of the former USSR into the customs union, I think that it is necessary to quickly introduce visas for all countries except TS It is no secret that half of the workers from the countries of the former USSR go to Russia to earn money and send money transfers from Russia to their homeland, and so the ban on transfers and the introduction of visas will spur many countries to join T.S. for their economies are substantially replenished with transfers from Russia.
    1. +13
      10 May 2013 16: 36
      Kyrgyzstan needs a vehicle just like a cow saddle! In my opinion, the only country from whose entry the vehicle would become stronger would be Ukraine. hi
      1. +2
        11 May 2013 00: 36
        Quote: ultra
        Kyrgyzstan needs a vehicle just like a cow saddle!

        I used to think so too, but after the news, what if Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan enter T.S. we can block the border with Afghanistan from the flow of drugs.
        1. 0
          11 May 2013 14: 15
          That's right, we need Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. There is only one problem: from the entry of all, or some of them, into the Customs Union, we will gain little while the Bakiyevs, Rakhmonovs, Karimovs are in power there .... Everything will be the same as now: "twisting hands" about military bases , guarding the border not by shepherds, but by our border guards, flirting with the West (with threats to leave the vehicle). Things will change only if we ourselves change the authorities there, putting ethnic Russians at the helm of these countries (which, by the way, would not hurt to do in our republics). Russian "governors" will be equidistant from local clans, and, accordingly, more money will be spent on raising countries and improving the lives of the people, as well as stopping the slide into feudalism. And first, you need to collect as many Gaster as possible and send them home, with parting words to hang Rakhmonov on the flagpole in Dushamba, plant a stake in the ass of Atambaev, "roll" Karimov into the asphalt and say that next time they choose Russians, not locals, here then let us send back to sweep our yards and work on construction sites.
          1. +2
            11 May 2013 15: 00
            After joining the Customs Union of Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, I think the people will immediately feel in their pocket the benefits of joining the Customs Union and the benevolence of citizens towards Russia will increase even more. And after all this, the people simply will not allow the flirting of their power with Russia, blackmailing them with leaving the Customs Union and placing NATO bases, the people will sweep away and put politicians more loyal to Russia, and Russia will help in this.
          2. Stone
            0
            11 May 2013 18: 46
            Zayebeshsya gavno lojkoy havat camrad
      2. +2
        11 May 2013 16: 17
        Quote: ultra
        In my opinion, the only country from whose entry the Customs Union would become stronger is Ukraine

        Well, who argues with this, but the Ukrainian authorities do not want to join the TS, they are more drawn to the European Union. As they say - you won’t be forcibly sweet.
    2. +7
      10 May 2013 17: 41
      I absolutely agree with you. The introduction of visas for citizens of this republic, and the inadmissibility of transferring money to this republic, a maximum transfer of 3000 rubles. once a month and only by citizens of this republic. And let their families and relatives, and they themselves think what kind of authorities they need, and then a victory of democracy only in Russia is very possible.
  5. +4
    10 May 2013 16: 25
    Mr. Knyazev, now he won’t write and call ... How can the Kremlin guess now who he is the Big Kyrgyz Ata? - a wolf, but a sheep?
    By God, friends, as long as our leadership will behave wretchedly, politically correct. The Central Asian "tigers" have been pursuing a gastronomic and sexual policy for two decades now, and for fish to us, for the rest to the states. The East is a delicate matter, and it’s time to go to the place where they turn to the States.
    1. +4
      10 May 2013 16: 59
      Quote: Chen
      kamchy yes in the place where they turn to the States

      as children, to her god, to which states ?? Expand Russian bases, but about Amers almost days consider when they will leave
  6. +3
    10 May 2013 16: 29
    Everything that is essentially oriented towards the Russian vector or somehow connected with Russia is punishable. Voicing US interests, even if it is contrary to the national interests of Kyrgyzstan, is not punishable.

    With such friends and enemies are not needed.
  7. +3
    10 May 2013 16: 37
    Atambayev is a friend of his boss Erdogan and Saakashvilli. He, as a politician, doesn’t understand, either a gutta-percha boy, or a rubber uncle.
    Comparison with the wolf is not suitable.
  8. +7
    10 May 2013 16: 41
    You just need to constantly remind the presumptuous Atambayev that we close the border for Kyrgyz migrants, the very Kyrgyz will sweep away this pro-American government
    1. +3
      10 May 2013 16: 43
      Hunger is not an aunt - both the US government and the embassy will be swept away.
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  10. -7
    10 May 2013 16: 46
    Nonsense ... article minus
    1. +3
      10 May 2013 17: 08
      Quote: stariy
      Nonsense ... article minus

      What exactly is nonsense, Andrey? Atambayev is not the master of his words.
      He does not follow his mouth and back seat at all.
      1. +3
        10 May 2013 17: 16
        Quote: Humpty
        He does not follow his mouth and back seat at all.

        so he doesn’t decide much. The general policy of the country is also directed to Russia and not to the west, but everything else (the dog barks, the caravan goes on)
  11. +1
    10 May 2013 16: 56
    To call two-faced ... It is unlikely that two faces - will not be enough.
    1. 0
      11 May 2013 07: 16
      Quote: knn54
      To call two-faced ... It is unlikely that two faces - will not be enough.

      Maybe the many-faced Janus?
      And at the same time a multi-legged anus?

      I ask you to call someone hooked from the Kyrgyz here - I myself do not like it when it’s not according to academic rules, but about the first persons ...
  12. +2
    10 May 2013 16: 59
    Such as Atanbaev most of all are afraid of a new color revolution which at any moment I can combine in the West, now he has two ways to resist and will be overthrown now or take Saakashvili’s path then will be overthrown a little later.
  13. Reasonable, 2,3
    -2
    10 May 2013 16: 59
    Not an article, but some crap.
  14. Warrawar
    +15
    10 May 2013 17: 09
    This is just an example of what I have always talked about and will talk about. Countries such as Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and the like are not needed in the Customs Union. We don't get anything from them except losses, even without being in any union with them, but what will happen if these countries enter the CU? I think, according to the good old tradition, Mother Russia will roll off loans for them, for the construction of infrastructure, which she will then "forgive", and the proud "Central Asian lions" will then go around the world, telling the next fables about the "Russian invaders" was set up for gratuitous "occupant" loans.
    Just the other day, our esteemed government forgave a loan to Kyrgyzstan in the amount of half a billion dollars, here is the link:
    http://chel.kp.ru/online/news/1434643/
    And for what? Who gave the right to scatter such money? Putin decided so? Well, let him forgive him from his feed and not at the expense of the people of Russia and its wealth. Putin was generally elected to the post of president of Russia, and not to the post of president of Kyrgyzstan or Tajikistan, but the impression is just that. And all this despite the fact that in our country, to put it mildly, not everything is safe. Part of the people lives in emergency housing - in the bugs built at the dawn of the revolution. How much could be done in Russia with the money that we forgive is not clear to anyone?
    It is high time to stop "growing apple trees on Mars" and to sponsor the loyalty of the Central Asian regimes (otherwise, God forbid, they turn their backs on us). It is necessary to invest in Russia and its people, otherwise the people themselves will one day "turn away" from Russia, with such an approach!
    1. +2
      10 May 2013 19: 01
      Quote: Warrawar
      Who gave the right to scatter such money? Putin decided so?

      Not necessarily Putin, we have someone to solve such issues without him
  15. RUS
    RUS
    +5
    10 May 2013 17: 35
    If Atambaev was the hero of a Hollywood movie, he would answer you, "this is part of my job, sir." What I mean is that maneuvering and seeking profit, diluted with blackmail and lies, is the policy of Atanbaev, Rakhmon and the same Nazarbayev. Attempts to please everyone, to bargain on any issues, skillfully and not very much to play on the Central Asian interests of Russia and the United States, not forgetting about China, thanks to their geographical position, bargain for themselves various types of benefits and preferences.
    1. 0
      10 May 2013 21: 01
      RUS: If Atambayev was the hero of a Hollywood movie, he would ...
      The film would be called "The Diamond of Purest Trouble"
  16. RUS
    RUS
    +2
    10 May 2013 17: 52
    Are they needed in the Customs Union; Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan?
    Does the locomotive of the European Union, Germany, need such "economic powers" as Bulgaria, Romania, and the same Cyprus? Cyprus is blown away, the following are on the way: Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, well, Bulgaria and Romania, as they say on the same enthusiasm .... bye ..
    1. Warrawar
      +10
      10 May 2013 18: 37
      Quote: RUS
      Does the locomotive of the European Union, Germany, need such "economic powers" as Bulgaria, Romania, and the same Cyprus?

      The funny thing is that countries such as Bulgaria, Greece, Romania, etc. are economic "giants" against the background of Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. For example, here are the nominal GDP of these countries:
      Greece - $ 280 billion
      Romania - $ 274 billion
      Bulgaria - 103 billion dollars
      And now the Central Asian candidates for joining the TS
      Tajikistan - $ 17 billion
      Kyrgyzstan - 13 billion dollars
      And this despite the fact that their nominal GDP of 40-50% consists of transfers of illegal migrants from Russia, and the remaining 50-60% is mainly drug trafficking.
      With the same success, we can talk about integration with Somali pirates, since the economic situation there is not much worse.
      So, since Romania, Bulgaria and Greece have caused a lot of problems in the EU, right up to the collapse of the above, integration with Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan and the like is similar to death.
  17. 0
    10 May 2013 18: 28
    I am inclined to believe that the Customs Union also needs such states as the former Soviet Central Asian republics. Whoever says whatever, and whatever it may be, whether we want it or not, they are a real and natural buffer between Russia and Afghanistan (read: drug trafficking and al-Qaeda militants). And it will be better for all of us if this buffer is controlled by Russia with the help of the Customs Union, including than by some of our "strategic partners."
    And one more thing: the better thanks to Russia (including the vehicle with Russia) they will live at home, the fewer of them will be at home. And the less they will have a need for services and "carrots" of our sworn friends.
    1. Warrawar
      +4
      10 May 2013 18: 52
      Quote: liteha
      I am inclined to believe that the Customs Union also needs such states as the former Soviet Central Asian republics. Whoever says whatever, and whatever it may be, whether we want it or not, they are a real and natural buffer between Russia and Afghanistan (read: drug trafficking and al-Qaeda militants). And it will be better for all of us if this buffer is controlled by Russia with the help of the Customs Union, including than by some of our "strategic partners."
      And one more thing: the better thanks to Russia (including the vehicle with Russia) they will live at home, the fewer of them will be at home. And the less they will have a need for services and "carrots" of our sworn friends.

      It’s wonderful - it turns out that we, in your opinion, should integrate according to the principle - it can be bad or very bad, choose the lesser of two evils.
      Can it be more reasonable to put an end to this booth? And to do as common sense suggests - to build a strict visa regime and maximum border control from drug trafficking and kreminal.
      By the way, Russia generally has no common borders with Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan, and the absence of a visa regime with a disadvantaged region from the outside looks ridiculous.
      And the "buffer" between Russia and Afghanistan (read: drug trafficking and al-Qaeda militants), and at the same time Tajikistan / Kyrgyzstan / Uzbekistan, etc., is Kazakhstan, which is a member of the CU. And then on this occasion I ask myself a question: how is there a buffer in the form of Kazakhstan (which is part of the Customs Union and, in theory, should be fully controlled), and drugs float to Russia like a river and al-Qaeda militants crawl in the Caucasus mountains?
  18. Krasnoyarsk
    +9
    10 May 2013 18: 39
    Withdraw troops from the Central Asian viper, and introduce the most stringent visa regime.
    1. +4
      10 May 2013 18: 46
      Quote: Krasnoyarets
      Withdraw troops from the Central Asian viper, and introduce the most stringent visa regime.

      Good girl! good
      1. +8
        10 May 2013 19: 10
        Quote: zennon
        Quote: Krasnoyarets
        Withdraw troops from the Central Asian viper, and introduce the most stringent visa regime.

        Good girl! good

        Good girl ????
        Maybe in Syria, the PMTC close, and indeed then to disband the armed forces?
        Under the caring attention of the world's puppeteers, the world is small and global, and if today something seems to quietly backfire at one end of the planet, then tomorrow at the other end it will respond in such a way that it will hardly seem to anyone. And no one will guarantee that your home or the homes of our relatives will not be on this "other side of the planet".
        You need to understand that in the world there are a number of geographical places, today's physical presence of our troops in which prevents tomorrow's bloody battles and terrorist attacks against civilians on the streets of our cities. Therefore, it is logical to choose the least of two evils.

        Regarding visas, I absolutely agree.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          +1
          10 May 2013 19: 31
          We pay them to ensure that their country is not captured by the Islamists, and they also survive.
          1. Warrawar
            +2
            10 May 2013 19: 52
            Quote: Krasnoyarets
            We pay them to ensure that their country is not captured by the Islamists, and they also survive.

            What we pay them diverges in the pockets of local bais.
        2. Warrawar
          +7
          10 May 2013 19: 51
          Russia should be in Central Asia, but Central Asia should not be in Russia.
      2. +4
        10 May 2013 20: 38
        Quote: zennon
        Quote: Krasnoyarets
        Withdraw troops from the Central Asian viper, and introduce the most stringent visa regime.

        Good girl! good

        Perhaps you are right, but maybe not ?! recourse
        I just remember ... from Artyom Borovik's book "The Hidden War": - "in Kabul, the local dukans told me:" The Russian soldier always went from north to south. Now he is leaving from south to north for the first time. And he will retreat further and further "...
        At one time, Russian units were withdrawn from Chechnya, and after a short period of time, Basayev Chechens had to be smoked from Dagestan ..
        II-example: troops were withdrawn from Germany and other ATS countries, and now NATO aircraft are patrolling the Baltic airspace ..
        Draw your own conclusions ...
        1. +1
          11 May 2013 14: 29
          Everything is correct. Today we will withdraw our troops from the Middle, tomorrow from the Caucasus and the Far East, after tomorrow from Siberia and the Urals, and by the end of the century, you see, we will return to the borders of Moscow Russia. "Yielding, you cannot stop" (Elena CHUDINOVA)
  19. +2
    10 May 2013 19: 17
    After the withdrawal of amer troops from Afghanistan, a country such as Kyrgyzstan is unlikely to be on the map, the Taliban will not sleep.
  20. +2
    10 May 2013 19: 22
    We need Kyrgyzstan, like Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. It should be remembered that their participation will limit their sovereignty and will enable us to influence their policies and there is no need for softness. There must be a firm, imperious hand, like that of Stalin.
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      -1
      10 May 2013 19: 32
      Guinea is more necessary for us, than all of Central Asia.
      1. +4
        10 May 2013 20: 11
        Quote: Krasnoyarets
        Guinea is more necessary for us, than all of Central Asia.

        laughing Guinea?! Why not Honduras ?! feel
        If it’s more needed, more needed .. Guinea, so Guinea .. what are the problems ?!
  21. +1
    10 May 2013 20: 21
    “A wolf in sheep's clothing” - this expression would probably suit Atambayev, except for the fact that the wolf is an animal strong enough, proud and purposeful ...

    Most likely he is a "skunk in sheep's clothing"
    1. 0
      11 May 2013 14: 35
      Atambaev himself is passing the campaign. bully
  22. fenix57
    +1
    10 May 2013 20: 37
    Quote: liteha
    Whoever says whatever, and whatever it may be, whether we want it or not, they are a real and natural buffer between Russia and Afghanistan (read: drug trafficking and al-Qaeda militants). And it will be better for all of us if this buffer is controlled by Russia with the help of the Customs Union, including than by some of our "strategic partners."

    An alliance with Kazakhstan is important for Russia, and Kyrgyzstan, in fact, does not make any weather.
    1. 0
      10 May 2013 21: 04
      Quote: fenix57
      Kyrgyzstan doesn’t do any weather

      You didn’t put a good map, I advise you on a topographic and larger scale. And if there is no sense in Kyrgyzstan, let them put some kind of radar there just from Brest to Vladivostok they will see everything ... That's why they want to stay here! Strategists damn it ...
  23. DeerIvanovich
    +1
    10 May 2013 20: 47
    Well, why not make money on helpful Turks, well, and then there will be a mess, to keep objects for free ...
  24. -1
    10 May 2013 20: 48
    it seems to me from the support of Kyrgyzstan we can’t go anywhere, there will not be us there will be amers, so willy-nilly but we have to bend under them
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      0
      10 May 2013 20: 57
      In the case of vyvdla RF wax Islamists talk about there, and then the amers instantly cease to want to enter there
      1. +3
        10 May 2013 21: 18
        Quote: Krasnoyarets
        Islamists talk about it there,

        I sometimes wonder ... Syria is on fire, we are gasping .. And as long as Central Asia is almost at home, the refugees will run ... it’s not the guserbitors who can’t go back ...
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          -1
          11 May 2013 08: 08
          Let the refugees run in three funny letters, the nefig was to kick out the Russians in the 90s.
      2. +2
        11 May 2013 14: 34
        After the Islamists "nakarekatsya" there, they will go "poop" to Siberia and the Volga region. Get ready to meet the "dear" guests and study the Koran, just in case.
    2. Warrawar
      0
      10 May 2013 22: 36
      Quote: jagdpanzer
      it seems to me from the support of Kyrgyzstan we can’t go anywhere, there will not be us there will be amers, so willy-nilly but we have to bend under them

      I will surprise you, but "amers" are already there.
  25. Vladomir
    +2
    10 May 2013 21: 25
    As one of the politicians put it, "when the Russians get weak, the rest become angry and impudent." Wed Asia is from ancient times the sphere of direct interests of Russia, and the ancient policy of "carrot and stick" is effective here. To put all the leaders of the southern states in the harsh conditions of the laws of economics, usefulness for Russia.
    1. +2
      11 May 2013 23: 08
      Quote: Vladomir
      To put all the leaders of the southern states in the harsh conditions of the laws of economics, usefulness for Russia.

      At first you would put your laws of economy and utility for Russia in strict conditions of your leaders at all levels, both local and federal. am
      We know very well how your managers work. And somehow they delight with us, and they don’t cause you lol
  26. Vladomir
    +2
    10 May 2013 21: 31
    Moreover, in 2014, the US and NATO are withdrawing their troops from Afghanistan, but leaving about a dozen "non-state" bases to control drug trafficking and coordinate the actions of the Taliban with access to the borders of Russia. Only a smart and tough position of Russia will make it possible to correctly dot the "th" and firmly determine Russia's position for the future.
  27. 0
    10 May 2013 21: 47
    Atambayev is not a wolf in sheep's clothing, but rather a rat in pigeon feathers.
  28. ABV
    +2
    10 May 2013 21: 56
    what kind of disgust is this. The Central Asians, as girls on the issue, are grimacing, being naughty - from whom to take investments, to whom to surrender ... you need to crush them, they are completely insolent - neither the economy nor finances, but all your cheeks are puffed up for importance ...
  29. +4
    10 May 2013 21: 59
    Very similar to most of the commentators, “strategists” decided in recent times - if Russia gets rid of “ballast” in the form of union republics, then it will become better and more fun. So many Asians in Moscow during the Union did not see And how many Russians in Central Asia, this skating rink of the collapse of the Union traveled? Everyone thinks they are smarter than Putin on the forums on the network and with aplomb give advice on what they have a very vague idea
  30. Yep
    Yep
    +2
    10 May 2013 22: 05
    To be honest. the article was written somehow childishly. It seems that the author is offended at the Kirghiz as at the neighbors who did not give money until payday. Of course, “throwing” those with whom you have already shaken hands is not at all manly, but given that the situation in Kyrgyzstan is so deplorable (even in the capital, only the central streets are lit, for example) that the head of state has to get out as soon as possible. I agree not beautiful, but what to do!
    About
    Quote: Canep
    This uncle seems to follow Saakashvili’s path, I hope he won’t get to the war. Kazakhstan needs to prepare for problems.
    I can assure you that we (Kazakhstan) do not need to prepare anything, because Kyrgyzstan is too much connected with us as we are with it. I can remind you of events from the recent past. When Kyrgyzstan started out of order, Kazakhstan completely closed the border with the Kyrgyz Republic, which is why the second largest Central Asian market (flea market) in Almaty was completely empty! legislation) Kazakhstan didn’t let the Kirghiz in for weeks 2-2, as a result of which Bishkek quickly found a lever of pressure on the Republic of Kazakhstan in the form of a valley supplying the city of Taraz (Dzhambul), remember in the Diamond Hand mentioning it) And we started letting them in as nice ones)
  31. +3
    10 May 2013 22: 42
    A. Knyazev, an ordinary Russian-speaking political analyst, Kyrgyzstan, but writing in a very harsh manner, without oriental curtsies. Therefore, the ruling elite do not like it, they found a legal order and were not allowed to go home. At the same time, they cannot understand who to choose the extreme: SNB, Ministry of Internal Affairs, border guards ??? Well, the usual confusion with the objectionable, especially the Russian passport. The indecision of ASHA ("Eat" is the popular name of the President of the Kyrgyz Republic) in the issue of the base, maneuvering between Russia, China, the United States, in the fact that his main business is, as it were, in Turkey. Further I think it is clear. Yes, of course, visas, restrictions, deportation are needed, but it was necessary, as it were, earlier in the years 93-95. And now it's not too late, but it's dreary: the screams are screaming "Mother Russia", "without Moscow ... Peter ... Tula ... Tomsk ... I can't live." etc. And the SA has always been a headache for the generals of the USSR in terms of defense. And F.POWERS flew from there, and the pilgrims of smuggling, drugs pass in the same place, taking advantage of the complex geo. Why is Russia insisting on the withdrawal of the base? On the base, it was leaked, the amers buried the Echelon ground station. And from the Volga to Vladik, with the seizure of the territory of the PRC, they say it is not weak to listen. Even if the amers leave, then both Kazakhs and Uzbeks are ready to give an airfield in Aktau, or near Karshi or in a small town, in the valley between Osh and Jalalabad. To cut down the grandmothers in the light at the conclusion. It's easy to "not push" to Russia, only if we start running over coals in the SA, it will very soon spread to Russia. And there is no one knows where the curve will take. It’s better to stand up to death on the old USSR borders. The Taliban there or other militants of unknown color, grind in the mountains, go out into the valleys, in the steppe, it will be hard. So let's be timid without chernukha, without trampling down to the "dark-skinned" skirting boards, we will be together, we will break through, we will give a shortcut, and separately, like "let the devil ... s" beat, but we will see, and after that, it will not work.
  32. 0
    10 May 2013 22: 58
    And I was looking for an explanation to the saying "The East is a delicate matter!" ... FOUND !!! from the article: "Voicing the interests of the United States, even if it contradicts the national interests of Kyrgyzstan, is not punishable"
  33. +1
    11 May 2013 00: 00
    Once again stepped on a rake. GDP forgives debts, and they prohibit the entry of Russians. Cool it turns out. And everything that was agreed on the construction was deployed in the direction of Turkey. So who are they after that? Maybe their tries ..... let them repay debts in full. In case of delay, interest is paid up to a penny.
    1. +1
      11 May 2013 00: 18
      Brother! They remind me of "gypsies" in the market ... The principle of their survival: "I shed a tear" - I made a fortune! And then, all the X ...
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  34. igor12
    +2
    11 May 2013 00: 42
    But these chocks do not understand otherwise; they only need to be given teeth.
  35. fenix57
    0
    11 May 2013 05: 04
    Quote: stariy
    Strategists damn it ..

    And why topographic? I personally expressed my opinion and do not pretend to be a strategist! As regards radio-electronic reconnaissance, I hope there are jammers in both Russia and China (this is also not beneficial for them), our strategic partner.
    And "bowing" of RUSSIA to some kind of Kyrgyzstan is at least not serious.Otherwise, absolutely RESPECT TO OUR GOS-WU WILL NOT REMAIN! hi
  36. DmitryMSK
    0
    11 May 2013 05: 12
    Absolutely fear lost ..... ..... ki, in SR. Asia needs a firm stance in all watered. and economic issues, and you need to STOP forgiving these rags for debts. And this money should be used for medicine and the development of education + for social protection for veterans and pensioners.

    I believe that it is necessary to ban them from importing migrant workers and money transfers. but leave the base and vice versa expand and strengthen since she is strategic !!!


    Ah, yes, I completely forgot ... It’s better to accept instead of these slippery cunning-ass comrades Syria and Iran good
    1. -1
      11 May 2013 06: 42
      Quote: DmitryMSK
      It’s better to take in T.S. instead of these slippery assassins. Syria and Iran

      The idea is not bad, but after our government changes, when we destroy them totally, and with a prism, it’s not a friendship
  37. -1
    11 May 2013 06: 34
    And where is Kyrgyzstan?
  38. 0
    11 May 2013 06: 41
    Quote: regin
    And where is Kyrgyzstan?

    In Moscow, not ????
  39. pinecone
    +1
    11 May 2013 07: 29
    For the sake of objectivity, I must admit that the Turks are much closer to them in every way. Race, language, religion, cultural traditions - all these factors will undoubtedly contribute to further strengthening the influence of Turkey in this region.
    PS Citizens of the Russian Federation living there are not an obstacle for Asians, as they are an additional source of foreign currency for local rulers.
  40. +2
    11 May 2013 07: 44
    "Wolf in sheep's clothing"? Completely those to you, what a wolf he is, he is so ordinary. The problem of all the former Soviet republics that broke away from Russia with the collapse of the Soviet Union is one - a "toothless", lazy leadership that does not know how and does not want to work. Basically, Russia has the same problem. Indeed, in order to raise the country, develop the economy, etc., you must firstly: clearly understand what your country is like, secondly, assess its capabilities and resources, and thirdly, identify real allies both inside the country and abroad. arena, and the most important thing is not to talk with your tongue, but to work from morning to night. As did the same Stalin. Gorlopans, who know nothing but to publicize, who came to power at the beginning, were ousted by other similar "talkers", but already by the proteges of those circles who really were able to get economic power in the country (banal money bags, etc. ). Look at all these countries-former republics, with the exception of Kazakhstan and Belarus, where, thank God, a fairly smart leadership has remained from Soviet times, in other countries all sorts of idiots are in power who can't fucking manage the economy, and they don't know how to manage it, for there is neither the necessary knowledge nor "levers" for this. These leaders constantly have to look for themselves, the so-called. "investors" and so on. That is, there are those who will come and do everything for them, and it is even easier to find a "master" either in the person of the EU or the US or Saud. Arabia, or someone else, and fulfill his instructions and wishes, receiving insignificant preferences for himself personally. It's much easier to work for the owner, he pays you for it and you don’t need to invent something there, “rack your brains”, make uncomfortable decisions, take responsibility, etc. That's it, everything, the so-called. the elite and leadership of most of the former Soviet republics ended up on the balance sheet of their masters in the EU and the United States or Russia (Armenia, etc.). It's just convenient. If Russia wants, again to gain influence in these breakaway countries, then she just needs to not annoy all this rag, which is called the elite and the leadership there, but simply "stroke" and "feed" her better than feeding them the current owners are from the EU, the USA, etc. That's all.
  41. 0
    11 May 2013 07: 59
    Putin p ... s, for that kind of money to raise the country ..... Well ... e spawn
  42. Warrawar
    0
    11 May 2013 17: 30
    AHAHAHA No words!
    http://www.nr2.ru/asia/437924.html

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