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A. Atambaev - "a wolf in sheep's clothing"

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A. Atambaev - "a wolf in sheep's clothing"On May 1, the Kyrgyz authorities officially banned Russian citizen political scientist Alexander Knyazev, who permanently resides in Bishkek, from entering his territory.


In his opinion, this is a multipurpose action. The public declarations of the President of Kyrgyzstan Atambayev on the special attitude to Russia, on adherence to the integration processes with Russia, Kazakhstan, Belarus are only declarations, this is a public policy, but there is also realpolitik, in this part Atambayev realizes only his own interests, determined by his influence openly anti-Russian environment and his personal selfish dependence on the leadership of Turkey. There is the personal business of the Kyrgyz president, everything is under the control of Ankara, it was not by chance that Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan’s last visit to Bishkek changed Atambayev’s many tonalities. He is already ready to build hydropower plants with Turkish companies, rather than Russian ones, and the Turks will provide the transformation of the notorious Manas Airport, etc. "A wolf in sheep's clothing" - this expression would probably fit Atambaev, except for the fact that the wolf is an animal strong enough, proud and purposeful ...

Talking about reckless entry into the CU is a tactic of the “Trojan horse” sent by Washington strategists to disintegrate Eurasian already difficultly advancing integration processes. So, such a situation is in the hands of such advisers as the well-known state department lobbyist Roza Otunbayeva. By the way, she lives on obscure grounds on the territory of the Ala-Archa state residence in the mansion next to the president, having great opportunities to correct his course in time ... She has a holiday today, like their other neighbor in the state residence - the main nationalist in the Republic of Emilbek Kaptagaev, or the curator of the power structures of Shamil Atakhanov, who is not perceived by any of these departments as a leader ... These are people who determine the policy of the state.

A few months ago, A. Knyazev was the first to voice the joint Kyrgyz-American plans to build a new American electronic intelligence complex in Bishkek (crossing Manas Avenue and the South Main Line on the southern outskirts of the Kyrgyz capital) and at the same time to transfer several hundred servicemen from the US to diplomatic status. the airbase at the airport "Manas" serving this intelligence equipment. He also talked a lot and actively and wrote lately about the doubtfulness of Russia's implementation in partnership with this unreliable Kyrgyz leadership of large-scale hydropower projects.

An absolutely similar tactic is traced with the one that was implemented by the entourage of ex-President Bakiyev on the eve of his collapse - the murder of politicians and journalists, the blocking of Internet resources, etc. Until the killings, thank God, it does not reach, but there is a curious moment in this tactic. Anything that is essentially oriented towards the Russian or somehow connected to Russia is punishable. Voicing the interests of the United States, even if it contradicts the national interests of Kyrgyzstan, is not punishable, this information trend is clothed in a good propaganda shell through several thousand pro-Western non-governmental organizations and a few dozen of the same media grown in the post-Soviet period. However, this is still a multi-vector approach, but there is a tendency to narrow it in favor of following the interests of the West.
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  1. Canep
    Canep 10 May 2013 16: 04 New
    14
    This uncle seems to follow Saakashvili’s path, I hope he won’t get to the war. Kazakhstan needs to prepare for problems.
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta 10 May 2013 16: 17 New
      -8
      Quote: Canep
      Kazakhstan needs to prepare for problems.

      UNKNOWN: WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO KAZAKHSTAN IN THE EVENT OF NAZARBAYEV'S DEATH: OPINIONS OF BLOGGERS
      Nazarbayev is mortally ill? The president of Kazakhstan has only six months to a year left to live, the Republican newspaper reported on April 3. Such a forecast, coupled with the sensational details of the operation, the publication was informed by an informed reader. The successor, he said, will be presented to the world just about.

      continued here http://www.iarex.ru/interviews/35569.html
      1. Canep
        Canep 10 May 2013 16: 22 New
        +2
        See the biography of today's Prime Minister of Kazakhstan on Wikipedia. I think he is the receiver.
      2. dmitrich
        dmitrich 11 May 2013 05: 51 New
        0
        stupidity, about Turkmenistan, too, they said so in due time about Turkmenbashi.
      3. Civil
        Civil 11 May 2013 07: 04 New
        0
        After Nazarbayev they’ll try to play a thread like Libya
    2. A. Yaga
      A. Yaga 10 May 2013 16: 20 New
      +7
      Quote: Canep
      This uncle seems to follow Saakashvili’s path, I hope he won’t get to the war. Kazakhstan needs to prepare for problems.

      We also need to prepare, even first of all to us.
      1. yak69
        yak69 10 May 2013 19: 33 New
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        Quote: A. Yaga
        We need to prepare .... first of all !!

        As a person born in the East, having absorbed the culture of the East, which is called mother’s milk, I can say the following: the East understands and recognizes ONLY FORCE! Moreover, the FORCE is uncompromising, not hesitating and cruel. As soon as the games of humanism and democracy begin, EVERYTHING is the end of order. Even in Soviet times, hierarchical subordination was strictly observed and the violation was severely and immediately punished (in various ways).
        So, as long as we chew snot and play in equality and democracy, we will always be “fully” possessed by all of these Atambaev-Karimov-Rakhmonovs and their ilk!
        Only a tough and consistent position + Russian proteges will ensure us order in relations and integration in Central Asia.
        This is our region (since imperial times) and we need to conduct business there on a businesslike basis.
        1. simbirzit
          simbirzit 10 May 2013 23: 12 New
          +1
          everything is clear as a white day, this is a custom-made, yet another psychiatric hospital, the yellow ones hope for hospitable people from America and Europe and they spit on relations with Russia ..... whoever gives the babas more, all the same, these babas won't go nowhere except their own pockets, but they spit on their people, where they will be in Russia, or in Turkey .....


          ,
    3. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 10 May 2013 16: 45 New
      +4
      Quote: Canep
      Kazakhstan needs to prepare for problems.

      And where does Kazakhstan, if we are talking about Kyrgyzstan?
      1. Canep
        Canep 10 May 2013 17: 21 New
        +2
        Kyrgyzstan borders with Kazakhstan, and is tightly connected economically. Sharp maneuvers in Kyrgyzstan will affect Kazakhstan.
        1. stariy
          stariy 10 May 2013 17: 31 New
          +2
          Quote: Canep
          will affect Kazakhstan.

          In general, they won’t be reflected in any way. Yes, and vryatli Kyrgyzstan will maneuver a bit, they’re so tired of the Bakiyev and Akayev maneuvers ... and the republic will not sustain another roll.
          1. Canep
            Canep 10 May 2013 17: 47 New
            +2
            I would like to hope so, your presidents honestly already got the Kyrgyz people.
        2. individual
          individual 10 May 2013 18: 13 New
          +4
          Quoting Minesweeper:
          "Sharp maneuvers in Kyrgyzstan will affect Kazakhstan."

          What are you guys talking about? Kyrgyz
          economic, political, military, and geographic significance, even in kilowatts, even in carats, even in square kilometers, is not comparable with Kazakhstan. The only thing that is debatable, but related these peoples is the southern zhuz of Kazakhstan and sowing. territory of Kyrgyzstan. The dependence of Kazakhstan on Kyrgyzstan is excluded, rather the opposite.
    4. NOBODY EXCEPT US
      NOBODY EXCEPT US 10 May 2013 23: 52 New
      -1
      An ardent Kazakh got out ....
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 10 May 2013 16: 09 New
    +2
    But why does Mr. Knyazev, a citizen of Russia, always live in Bishkek?
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 10 May 2013 16: 39 New
      +5
      Quote: Vladimirets
      But why does Mr. Knyazev, a citizen of Russia, always live in Bishkek?

      I also have Russian neighbors 5 years ago who left for Kyrgyzstan. Retirees.
      We came to my daughter this year and it seems that they are not going to return. For our northern pension, they live quite well there. Nobody says that we are not oppressed. winked
    2. stariy
      stariy 10 May 2013 16: 52 New
      12
      And there are thousands of them here, they are working, they are preserving Russian culture, and indeed the empire is not letting their territories completely be lost. So far we have succeeded ...
    3. Humpty
      Humpty 10 May 2013 16: 53 New
      +4
      Quote: Vladimirets
      But why does Mr. Knyazev, a citizen of Russia, always live in Bishkek?

      What is surprising, many citizens of Russia of different nationalities constantly live in Kyrgyzstan, probably more than 100000. I don’t really like Knyazev’s articles, but it’s not about it, but about systematic gagging of people who are dissatisfied with the Bayan rule. Access to information. Ferghana’s agency was blocked, inter alia, because it did not “correctly” cover the topic of the 2010 massacre in Osh and Jalalabad and the role of some Kyrgyz officials in it.
    4. zennon
      zennon 10 May 2013 18: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: Vladimirets
      But why does Mr. Knyazev, a citizen of Russia, always live in Bishkek?

      So what? I, Russian, was born and lived for 41 years in Frunze, which was then renamed Bishkek. I took Russian citizenship in 1998, and left for Russia in 2004.
  3. optimist
    optimist 10 May 2013 16: 10 New
    11
    How many wolves do not feed ... The question is only to the Russian authorities: is it really not clear at the top that the blacks ... they don’t understand the normal language and relations? What kind of "club" should constantly hang over them? All these our former southern "neighbors" - rams who have rolled into feudalism after the collapse of the USSR!
  4. elmi
    elmi 10 May 2013 16: 10 New
    +6
    To speed up the entry of Kyrgyzstan and other countries of the former USSR into the customs union, I think that it is necessary to quickly introduce visas for all countries except TS It is no secret that half of the workers from the countries of the former USSR go to Russia to earn money and send money transfers from Russia to their homeland, and so the ban on transfers and the introduction of visas will spur many countries to join T.S. for their economies are substantially replenished with transfers from Russia.
    1. ultra
      ultra 10 May 2013 16: 36 New
      13
      Kyrgyzstan needs a vehicle just like a cow saddle! In my opinion, the only country from whose entry the vehicle would become stronger would be Ukraine. hi
      1. elmi
        elmi 11 May 2013 00: 36 New
        +2
        Quote: ultra
        Kyrgyzstan needs a vehicle just like a cow saddle!

        I used to think so too, but after the news, what if Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan enter T.S. we can block the border with Afghanistan from the flow of drugs.
        1. EwgenyZ
          EwgenyZ 11 May 2013 14: 15 New
          0
          That's right, we need Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan, and Turkmenistan. There is only one problem: from the entry of all, or some of them, into the Customs Union, we will benefit little while the Bakiyevs, Rakhmonovs, Karimovs are in power there .... Everything will be the same as now: "twisting the arms" about the military bases , guarding the border not with shepherds, but with our border guards, flirting with the West (with threats to leave the vehicle). Things will change only if we ourselves change the government there, putting ethnic Russians at the helm of these countries (which, incidentally, would not hurt to do in our republics). The Russian "governors" will be equidistant from local clans, and, accordingly, more money will be spent on raising countries and improving people's lives, as well as stopping sliding into feudalism. First, you need to collect as many gaster and send them home, partingly raise Rakhmonov at the flagpole in Dushamba, plant a stake in the ass of Atambaev, roll him up on Karimov’s asphalt and tell him to choose Russians, not local ones, next time then let our courtyards take revenge and work on construction sites.
          1. elmi
            elmi 11 May 2013 15: 00 New
            +2
            After joining the Customs Union of Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, I think the people will immediately feel in their pocket the benefits of joining the Customs Union and the benevolence of citizens towards Russia will increase even more. And after all this, the people simply will not allow the flirting of their power with Russia, blackmailing them with leaving the Customs Union and placing NATO bases, the people will sweep away and put politicians more loyal to Russia, and Russia will help in this.
          2. Stone
            Stone 11 May 2013 18: 46 New
            0
            Zayebeshsya gavno lojkoy havat camrad
      2. elmi
        elmi 11 May 2013 16: 17 New
        +2
        Quote: ultra
        In my opinion, the only country from whose entry the Customs Union would become stronger is Ukraine

        Well, who argues with this, but the Ukrainian authorities do not want to join the TS, they are more drawn to the European Union. As they say - you won’t be forcibly sweet.
    2. ruslan7608
      ruslan7608 10 May 2013 17: 41 New
      +7
      I absolutely agree with you. The introduction of visas for citizens of this republic, and the inadmissibility of transferring money to this republic, a maximum transfer of 3000 rubles. once a month and only by citizens of this republic. And let their families and relatives, and they themselves think what kind of authorities they need, and then a victory of democracy only in Russia is very possible.
  5. Black
    Black 10 May 2013 16: 25 New
    +4
    Mr. Knyazev, now he won’t write and call ... How can the Kremlin guess now who he is the Big Kyrgyz Ata? - a wolf, but a sheep?
    By God, friends, until our leadership behaves wretchedly politically correct. The Central Asian "tigers" have been pursuing gastronomic and sexual policies for 2 decades now, with us fishing for the fish, and the states for the rest. The East is a delicate matter, it would be time for kamchka and the place where they are turning to the States.
    1. stariy
      stariy 10 May 2013 16: 59 New
      +4
      Quote: Chen
      kamchy yes in the place where they turn to the States

      as children, to her god, to which states ?? Expand Russian bases, but about Amers almost days consider when they will leave
  6. vlad767
    vlad767 10 May 2013 16: 29 New
    +3
    Everything that is essentially oriented towards the Russian vector or somehow connected with Russia is punishable. Voicing US interests, even if it is contrary to the national interests of Kyrgyzstan, is not punishable.

    With such friends and enemies are not needed.
  7. Humpty
    Humpty 10 May 2013 16: 37 New
    +3
    Atambayev is a friend of his boss Erdogan and Saakashvilli. He, as a politician, doesn’t understand, either a gutta-percha boy, or a rubber uncle.
    Comparison with the wolf is not suitable.
  8. Yugra
    Yugra 10 May 2013 16: 41 New
    +7
    You just need to constantly remind the presumptuous Atambayev that we close the border for Kyrgyz migrants, the very Kyrgyz will sweep away this pro-American government
    1. Canep
      Canep 10 May 2013 16: 43 New
      +3
      Hunger is not an aunt - both the US government and the embassy will be swept away.
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  10. stariy
    stariy 10 May 2013 16: 46 New
    -7
    Nonsense ... article minus
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 10 May 2013 17: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: stariy
      Nonsense ... article minus

      What exactly is nonsense, Andrey? Atambayev is not the master of his words.
      He does not follow his mouth and back seat at all.
      1. stariy
        stariy 10 May 2013 17: 16 New
        +3
        Quote: Humpty
        He does not follow his mouth and back seat at all.

        so he doesn’t decide much. The general policy of the country is also directed to Russia and not to the west, but everything else (the dog barks, the caravan goes on)
  11. knn54
    knn54 10 May 2013 16: 56 New
    +1
    To call two-faced ... It is unlikely that two faces - will not be enough.
    1. Tartary
      Tartary 11 May 2013 07: 16 New
      0
      Quote: knn54
      To call two-faced ... It is unlikely that two faces - will not be enough.

      Maybe the many-faced Janus?
      And at the same time a multi-legged anus?

      I ask you to call someone hooked from the Kyrgyz here - I myself do not like it when it’s not according to academic rules, but about the first persons ...
  12. BARKAS
    BARKAS 10 May 2013 16: 59 New
    +2
    Such as Atanbaev most of all are afraid of a new color revolution which at any moment I can combine in the West, now he has two ways to resist and will be overthrown now or take Saakashvili’s path then will be overthrown a little later.
  13. Reasonable, 2,3
    Reasonable, 2,3 10 May 2013 16: 59 New
    -2
    Not an article, but some crap.
  14. Warrawar
    Warrawar 10 May 2013 17: 09 New
    15
    This is just an example of what I have always talked about and will talk about. Such countries as Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and the like are not needed in the CU. We do not get anything from them except losses, even without being in any alliance with them, but what will happen if these countries join the CU? I think, according to the good old tradition, Mother Russia will give them back loans for the construction of infrastructure, which they will then “forgive” and the proud “Central Asian lions” will then go around the world, telling new fables about the “Russian occupiers”, simultaneously rubbing what was set up for gratuitous "occupant" loans.
    Just the other day, our esteemed government forgave a loan to Kyrgyzstan in the amount of half a billion dollars, here is the link:
    http://chel.kp.ru/online/news/1434643/
    And for what? Who gave the right to scatter such money? Putin decided so? Well, let him forgive him from his feed and not at the expense of the people of Russia and its wealth. Putin was generally elected to the post of president of Russia, and not to the post of president of Kyrgyzstan or Tajikistan, but the impression is just that. And all this despite the fact that in our country, to put it mildly, not everything is safe. Part of the people lives in emergency housing - in the bugs built at the dawn of the revolution. How much could be done in Russia with the money that we forgive is not clear to anyone?
    It's time to stop "growing apple trees on Mars", and to sponsor the loyalty of the Central Asian regimes (otherwise God forbid they will turn their back on us). You need to invest in Russia and its people, otherwise the people themselves will one day “turn their backs” on Russia with such an approach!
    1. BARKAS
      BARKAS 10 May 2013 19: 01 New
      +2
      Quote: Warrawar
      Who gave the right to scatter such money? Putin decided so?

      Not necessarily Putin, we have someone to solve such issues without him
  15. RUS
    RUS 10 May 2013 17: 35 New
    +5
    If Atambaev was the hero of a Hollywood movie, he would have answered you, "this is part of my work, sir." I mean, maneuvering and seeking profit, diluted with blackmail and lies, is the policy of Atanbayev, Rakhmon and Nazarbayev. Attempts to please everyone, to bargain on any issues, skillfully and not really play on the Central Asian interests of Russia and the USA, not forgetting about China, thanks to its geographical position, bargain for themselves various kinds of privileges and preferences.
    1. knn54
      knn54 10 May 2013 21: 01 New
      0
      RUS: If Atambayev was the hero of a Hollywood movie, he would ...
      The film would be called "Diamond of Pure Trouble"
  16. RUS
    RUS 10 May 2013 17: 52 New
    +2
    Are they needed in the Customs Union; Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan?
    But do the locomotive of the European Union and Germany need such "economic powers" as Bulgaria, Romania, and the same Cyprus? Cyprus was blown away, the following are on their way: Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, and Bulgaria and Romania, as they say on the same enthusiasm .... for now ..
    1. Warrawar
      Warrawar 10 May 2013 18: 37 New
      10
      Quote: RUS
      But do the locomotive of the European Union and Germany need such "economic powers" as Bulgaria, Romania, and the same Cyprus?

      The funny thing is that countries such as Bulgaria, Greece, Romania, etc. are economic "giants" against the background of Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. For example, here is the nominal GDP of these countries:
      Greece - $ 280 billion
      Romania - $ 274 billion
      Bulgaria - 103 billion dollars
      And now the Central Asian candidates for joining the TS
      Tajikistan - $ 17 billion
      Kyrgyzstan - 13 billion dollars
      And this despite the fact that their nominal GDP of 40-50% consists of transfers of illegal migrants from Russia, and the remaining 50-60% is mainly drug trafficking.
      With the same success, we can talk about integration with Somali pirates, since the economic situation there is not much worse.
      So, since Romania, Bulgaria and Greece have caused a lot of problems in the EU, right up to the collapse of the above, integration with Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan and the like is similar to death.
  17. liteha
    liteha 10 May 2013 18: 28 New
    0
    I am inclined to the fact that such states as the former Soviet Central Asian republics are needed in the CU. Whoever says anything, and be that as it may, we all want it or not - a real and natural buffer between Russia and Afghanistan (read: drug trafficking and al-Qaeda militants). And we all will be better off if this buffer is controlled by Russia with the help of the Customs Union, including than some of our "strategic partners."
    And one more thing: the better thanks to Russia (including TS with Russia) they will live at home, the less of them will be at our place. And the less they will have a need for the services and "carrots" of our sworn friends.
    1. Warrawar
      Warrawar 10 May 2013 18: 52 New
      +4
      Quote: liteha
      I am inclined to the fact that such states as the former Soviet Central Asian republics are needed in the CU. Whoever says anything, and be that as it may, we all want it or not - a real and natural buffer between Russia and Afghanistan (read: drug trafficking and al-Qaeda militants). And we all will be better off if this buffer is controlled by Russia with the help of the Customs Union, including than some of our "strategic partners."
      And one more thing: the better thanks to Russia (including TS with Russia) they will live at home, the less of them will be at our place. And the less they will have a need for the services and "carrots" of our sworn friends.

      It’s wonderful - it turns out that we, in your opinion, should integrate according to the principle - it can be bad or very bad, choose the lesser of two evils.
      Can it be more reasonable to put an end to this booth? And to do as common sense suggests - to build a strict visa regime and maximum border control from drug trafficking and kreminal.
      By the way, Russia generally has no common borders with Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan, and the absence of a visa regime with a disadvantaged region from the outside looks ridiculous.
      And the “buffer” between Russia and Afghanistan (read: drug trafficking and al-Qaeda militants), and along with Tajikistan / Kyrgyzstan / Uzbekistan, etc., is Kazakhstan, which is a member of the CU. And then, on this occasion, I ask myself: how is the buffer in the form of Kazakhstan (which is in the CU and supposedly should be fully controlled) is there, and drugs are floating in Russia and Al Qaeda militants are crawling in the mountains of the Caucasus?
  18. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 10 May 2013 18: 39 New
    +9
    Withdraw troops from the Central Asian viper, and introduce the most stringent visa regime.
    1. zennon
      zennon 10 May 2013 18: 46 New
      +4
      Quote: Krasnoyarets
      Withdraw troops from the Central Asian viper, and introduce the most stringent visa regime.

      Good girl! good
      1. liteha
        liteha 10 May 2013 19: 10 New
        +8
        Quote: zennon
        Quote: Krasnoyarets
        Withdraw troops from the Central Asian viper, and introduce the most stringent visa regime.

        Good girl! good

        Good girl ????
        Maybe in Syria, the PMTC close, and indeed then to disband the armed forces?
        Under the careful attention of world puppeteers, the world is small and global, and if today something kind of quietly comes around at one end of the planet, then tomorrow at the other end it will respond so that little will not seem to anyone. And no one will guarantee that at this "other end of the planet" your home or the homes of our relatives will not be.
        You need to understand that in the world there are a number of geographical places, today's physical presence of our troops in which prevents tomorrow's bloody battles and terrorist attacks against civilians on the streets of our cities. Therefore, it is logical to choose the least of two evils.

        Regarding visas, I absolutely agree.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 10 May 2013 19: 31 New
          +1
          We pay them to ensure that their country is not captured by the Islamists, and they also survive.
          1. Warrawar
            Warrawar 10 May 2013 19: 52 New
            +2
            Quote: Krasnoyarets
            We pay them to ensure that their country is not captured by the Islamists, and they also survive.

            What we pay them diverges in the pockets of local bais.
        2. Warrawar
          Warrawar 10 May 2013 19: 51 New
          +7
          Russia should be in Central Asia, but Central Asia should not be in Russia.
      2. Alibekulu
        Alibekulu 10 May 2013 20: 38 New
        +4
        Quote: zennon
        Quote: Krasnoyarets
        Withdraw troops from the Central Asian viper, and introduce the most stringent visa regime.

        Good girl! good

        Perhaps you are right, but maybe not ?! recourse
        I just remember .. from Artyom Borovik’s book “Hidden War”: - “in Kabul, the local dukans told me:“ A Russian soldier always went from north to south. Now he’s going from south to north for the first time. And he will retreat farther and farther "...
        At one time, Russian units were withdrawn from Chechnya, and after a short period of time, Basayev Chechens had to be smoked from Dagestan ..
        II-example: troops were withdrawn from Germany and other ATS countries, and now NATO aircraft are patrolling the Baltic airspace ..
        Draw your own conclusions ...
        1. EwgenyZ
          EwgenyZ 11 May 2013 14: 29 New
          +1
          Everything is correct. Today we will withdraw troops from the Middle, tomorrow from the Caucasus and the Far East, after tomorrow from Siberia and the Urals, but by the end of the century, you see, we will return to the borders of Moscow Russia. “Yielding, you cannot stop” (Elena CHUDINOVA)
  19. bubla5
    bubla5 10 May 2013 19: 17 New
    +2
    After the withdrawal of amer troops from Afghanistan, a country such as Kyrgyzstan is unlikely to be on the map, the Taliban will not sleep.
  20. valokordin
    valokordin 10 May 2013 19: 22 New
    +2
    We need Kyrgyzstan, like Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. It should be remembered that their participation will limit their sovereignty and will enable us to influence their policies and there is no need for softness. There must be a firm, imperious hand, like that of Stalin.
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 10 May 2013 19: 32 New
      -1
      Guinea is more necessary for us, than all of Central Asia.
      1. Alibekulu
        Alibekulu 10 May 2013 20: 11 New
        +4
        Quote: Krasnoyarets
        Guinea is more necessary for us, than all of Central Asia.

        laughing Guinea?! Why not Honduras ?! repeat
        If it’s more needed, more needed .. Guinea, so Guinea .. what are the problems ?!
  21. BIGLESHIY
    BIGLESHIY 10 May 2013 20: 21 New
    +1
    “A wolf in sheep's clothing” - this expression would probably suit Atambayev, except for the fact that the wolf is an animal strong enough, proud and purposeful ...

    Most likely he is a "skunk in sheep's clothing"
    1. BIGLESHIY
      BIGLESHIY 11 May 2013 14: 35 New
      0
      Atambaev himself is passing the campaign. bully
  22. fenix57
    fenix57 10 May 2013 20: 37 New
    +1
    Quote: liteha
    Whoever says anything, and be that as it may, we all want it or not - a real and natural buffer between Russia and Afghanistan (read: drug trafficking and al-Qaeda militants). And we all will be better off if this buffer is controlled by Russia with the help of the Customs Union, including than some of our "strategic partners."

    An alliance with Kazakhstan is important for Russia, and Kyrgyzstan, in fact, does not make any weather.
    1. stariy
      stariy 10 May 2013 21: 04 New
      0
      Quote: fenix57
      Kyrgyzstan doesn’t do any weather

      You didn’t put a good map, I advise you on a topographic and larger scale. And if there is no sense in Kyrgyzstan, let them put some kind of radar there just from Brest to Vladivostok they will see everything ... That's why they want to stay here! Strategists damn it ...
  23. DeerIvanovich
    DeerIvanovich 10 May 2013 20: 47 New
    +1
    Well, why not make money on helpful Turks, well, and then there will be a mess, to keep objects for free ...
  24. jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer 10 May 2013 20: 48 New
    -1
    it seems to me from the support of Kyrgyzstan we can’t go anywhere, there will not be us there will be amers, so willy-nilly but we have to bend under them
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 10 May 2013 20: 57 New
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      In the case of vyvdla RF wax Islamists talk about there, and then the amers instantly cease to want to enter there
      1. stariy
        stariy 10 May 2013 21: 18 New
        +3
        Quote: Krasnoyarets
        Islamists talk about it there,

        I sometimes wonder ... Syria is on fire, we are gasping .. And as long as Central Asia is almost at home, the refugees will run ... it’s not the guserbitors who can’t go back ...
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 11 May 2013 08: 08 New
          -1
          Let the refugees run in three funny letters, the nefig was to kick out the Russians in the 90s.
      2. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 11 May 2013 14: 34 New
        +2
        After the Islamists there “puffed up” they will go “fucking up” to Siberia and the Volga region. Get ready to meet the "dear" guests and teach the Quran, just in case.
    2. Warrawar
      Warrawar 10 May 2013 22: 36 New
      0
      Quote: jagdpanzer
      it seems to me from the support of Kyrgyzstan we can’t go anywhere, there will not be us there will be amers, so willy-nilly but we have to bend under them

      I will surprise you, but the "amers" are already there.
  25. Vladomir
    Vladomir 10 May 2013 21: 25 New
    +2
    As one of the politicians said, "when the Russians are weakening, the rest are brutal and impudent." Middle Asia has been a sphere of direct interests of Russia since ancient times, and the ancient policy of "carrot and stick" is effective here. To put all the leaders of the southern states in the harsh conditions of the laws of economics, usefulness for Russia.
    1. Alibekulu
      Alibekulu 11 May 2013 23: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: Vladomir
      To put all the leaders of the southern states in the harsh conditions of the laws of economics, usefulness for Russia.

      At first you would put your laws of economy and utility for Russia in strict conditions of your leaders at all levels, both local and federal. am
      We know very well how your managers work. And somehow they delight with us, and they don’t cause you lol
  26. Vladomir
    Vladomir 10 May 2013 21: 31 New
    +2
    Moreover, in 2014 the USA and NATO withdraw their troops from Afghanistan, but leave about a dozen "non-state" bases to control drug trafficking and coordinate the activities of the Taliban with access to the borders of Russia. Only Russia's clever and tough stance will make it possible to correctly place all the points above the й firmly determine Russia's stance for the future.
  27. albert
    albert 10 May 2013 21: 47 New
    0
    Atambayev is not a wolf in sheep's clothing, but rather a rat in pigeon feathers.
  28. ABV
    ABV 10 May 2013 21: 56 New
    +2
    what kind of disgust is this. The Central Asians, as girls on the issue, are grimacing, being naughty - from whom to take investments, to whom to surrender ... you need to crush them, they are completely insolent - neither the economy nor finances, but all your cheeks are puffed up for importance ...
  29. rus9875
    rus9875 10 May 2013 21: 59 New
    +4
    Very similar to most of the commentators, “strategists” decided in recent times - if Russia gets rid of “ballast” in the form of union republics, then it will become better and more fun. So many Asians in Moscow during the Union did not see And how many Russians in Central Asia, this skating rink of the collapse of the Union traveled? Everyone thinks they are smarter than Putin on the forums on the network and with aplomb give advice on what they have a very vague idea
  30. Jeber
    Jeber 10 May 2013 22: 05 New
    +2
    To be honest. The article is written somehow childish. It seems that the author is offended by the Kirghiz, as the neighbors who did not give money to pay. Of course, “throwing” those with whom I already shook hands was not at all masculine, but considering that the situation in Kyrgyzstan is so deplorable (even the main streets are lit up in the capital, for example), the head of state has to get out as soon as possible. I agree not beautifully, but what to do!
    About
    Quote: Canep
    This uncle seems to follow Saakashvili’s path, I hope he won’t get to the war. Kazakhstan needs to prepare for problems.
    I can assure you that we (Kazakhstan) do not need to prepare anything, because Kyrgyzstan is too much connected with us as we are with it. I can remind you of events from the recent past. When Kyrgyzstan started out of order, Kazakhstan completely closed the border with the Kyrgyz Republic, which is why the second largest Central Asian market (flea market) in Almaty was completely empty! legislation) Kazakhstan didn’t let the Kirghiz in for weeks 2-2, as a result of which Bishkek quickly found a lever of pressure on the Republic of Kazakhstan in the form of a valley supplying the city of Taraz (Dzhambul), remember in the Diamond Hand mentioning it) And we started letting them in as nice ones)
  31. albai
    albai 10 May 2013 22: 42 New
    +3
    A. Knyazev, an ordinary Russian-speaking political analyst, of Kyrgyzstan, but writing in a very sharp manner, without oriental curtsies. Therefore, the power elite do not like it; they found a legal reserve and were not allowed to go home. At the same time, they can’t understand who to choose as the last: SNB, Ministry of Internal Affairs, border guards ??? Well, the usual catastrophe with objectionable, especially Russian passport. ASHA’s indecision (“ZhRI” is the popular name of the President of the Kyrgyz Republic) on the issue of base, maneuvering between Russia, China, the USA, in that its main business is like in Turkey. Further, I think it’s clear. Yes, of course, visas, restrictions, deportations are necessary, but it was necessary, as it were, earlier in the years of commercials of the 93-95th. Yes, and now it’s not too late, but dreary: the cries of "Russia mother dear", "without Moscow ... Peter ... Tula ... Tomsk ... I can’t live." etc. And the SA has always been a headache for defense generals of the USSR. And F. POWERS flew from there, and the smugglers, smugglers, drugs pass there, using complex geo-location. And why does Russia insist on the withdrawal of the base? At the base, leaked, the ground station "Echelon" amers buried. And from the Volga to Vladik, with the seizure of the territory of China, they say you can listen not weakly. Even if the amers leave, then both Kazakhs and Uzbeks are ready to give an airdrome to Aktau there, or near Karshi or in a small town, in the valley between the cities of Osh - Jalalabad. Grandmas in the lung at the output cut down. It’s easy to “not let things go” to Russia, only if we start to run for coals in the SA, then very soon it will spread to Russia. And there it is not known where the curve will take out. It would be better on the old USSR borders to stand to death. There we will grind the Taliban or other militants of unknown color, we will grind in the mountains, they will go to the valleys, in the steppe, it will be difficult. So let's get shy without blackies, without trampling “dark-skinned” skirting boards, we’ll break through, give a shortcut, and separately let the black ones beat, but we will see, and afterwards, it won’t work out.
  32. morprepud
    morprepud 10 May 2013 22: 58 New
    0
    And I was still looking for an explanation for the saying "East is delicate business!" ... FOUND !!! from the article: “Voicing US interests, even if it contradicts the national interests of Kyrgyzstan, is not punishable”
  33. Delink
    Delink 11 May 2013 00: 00 New
    +1
    Once again stepped on a rake. GDP forgives debts, and they prohibit the entry of Russians. Cool it turns out. And everything that was agreed on the construction was deployed in the direction of Turkey. So who are they after that? Maybe their tries ..... let them repay debts in full. In case of delay, interest is paid up to a penny.
    1. morprepud
      morprepud 11 May 2013 00: 18 New
      +1
      Brother! They remind me of "Gypsies" in the market ... The principle of their survival: "tears" - profited! And then, all for X ...
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  34. igor12
    igor12 11 May 2013 00: 42 New
    +2
    But these chocks do not understand otherwise; they only need to be given teeth.
  35. fenix57
    fenix57 11 May 2013 05: 04 New
    0
    Quote: stariy
    Strategists damn it ..

    And why topographic? I personally expressed my opinion and do not pretend to be a strategist! As regards radio-electronic reconnaissance, I hope there are jammers in both Russia and China (this is also not beneficial for them), our strategic partner.
    And to “bend” RUSSIA in front of some Kyrgyzstan is at least not serious.Otherwise, absolutely RESPECT TO OUR GOS-WU WILL NOT REMAIN! hi
  36. DmitryMSK
    DmitryMSK 11 May 2013 05: 12 New
    0
    Absolutely fear lost ..... ..... ki, in SR. Asia needs a firm stance in all watered. and economic issues, and you need to STOP forgiving these rags for debts. And this money should be used for medicine and the development of education + for social protection for veterans and pensioners.

    I believe that it is necessary to ban them from importing migrant workers and money transfers. but leave the base and vice versa expand and strengthen since she is strategic !!!


    Ah, yes, I completely forgot ... It’s better to accept instead of these slippery cunning-ass comrades Syria and Iran good
    1. queen
      queen 11 May 2013 06: 42 New
      -1
      Quote: DmitryMSK
      It’s better to take in T.S. instead of these slippery assassins. Syria and Iran

      The idea is not bad, but after our government changes, when we destroy them totally, and with a prism, it’s not a friendship
  37. queen
    queen 11 May 2013 06: 34 New
    -1
    And where is Kyrgyzstan?
  38. avant-garde
    avant-garde 11 May 2013 06: 41 New
    0
    Quote: regin
    And where is Kyrgyzstan?

    In Moscow, not ????
  39. pinecone
    pinecone 11 May 2013 07: 29 New
    +1
    For the sake of objectivity, I must admit that the Turks are much closer to them in every way. Race, language, religion, cultural traditions - all these factors will undoubtedly contribute to further strengthening the influence of Turkey in this region.
    PS Citizens of the Russian Federation living there are not an obstacle for Asians, as they are an additional source of foreign currency for local rulers.
  40. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 11 May 2013 07: 44 New
    +2
    "Wolf in sheep's clothing"? Full of those to you, what a wolf he is, just an ordinary thing. The problem of all the former Soviet republics that broke away from Russia with the collapse of the Soviet Union is one - “toothless”, lazy, incapable of leadership and unwilling to work. In principle, Russia has the same problem. Indeed, in order to raise a country, develop an economy, etc., it is necessary, firstly: to clearly understand what your country is like, secondly, to assess its capabilities and resources, thirdly, to identify real allies both within the country and on the outside the arena, and most importantly, you don’t have to talk with your tongue, but work from morning to night. As he did, the same Stalin. Throats who can do nothing but write ... to the public, who came to power at the beginning, were supplanted by other similar "red-buzzers", but already proteges of those circles who really could get economic power in the country (banal money bags, etc. ) Look at all these countries-former republics, with the exception of Kazakhstan and Belarus, where, thank God, smart enough leadership has remained since the Soviet era, in other countries there are all kinds of idiots in power who cannot manage the economy, and they don’t know how to manage it, for there is neither the necessary knowledge nor the “leverage” for this. These leaders constantly have to look for themselves, the so-called. “investors”, etc., there are those who come and do everything for them, and it’s even easier to find a “master” in the EU or the USA or Saud. Arabia, or someone else and fulfill his instructions and wishes, receiving for this insignificant preferences for himself personally. It’s much easier to work for the owner, he pays you for it and you don’t have to think up something, “rack your brains”, make uncomfortable decisions, take responsibility, etc. That’s all, so-called. the elite and leadership of the majority of the former Soviet republics turned out to be in balance with their masters in the EU and the USA or Russia (Armenia, etc.). It is just convenient. If Russia wants to gain influence again in these countries that have split off from it, then it just needs to not annoy all that riffraff, which is called the elite and the leadership there, but simply "pet" and "feed" it better than feed it current owners from the EU, USA, etc. That's all.
  41. queen
    queen 11 May 2013 07: 59 New
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    Putin p ... s, for that kind of money to raise the country ..... Well ... e spawn
  42. Warrawar
    Warrawar 11 May 2013 17: 30 New
    0
    AHAHAHA No words!
    http://www.nr2.ru/asia/437924.html