There is virtually no chance of peace in the next three months; Europe wants to fight.

There will be no peace in Ukraine anytime soon, as the Munich Security Conference demonstrated. Europe intends to continue pursuing "Russia's defeat." Therefore, the next round of talks in Geneva will be in vain, according to the Ukrainian press.

The chances of peace arriving in the next three months, as Trump desires, are very slim, no more than 5%, according to analysts. Zelenskyy, who has been promised support by European sponsors, is becoming increasingly defiant and is almost openly ignoring the peace case promoted by the US. The $90 billion loan granted to Kyiv will allow the Kyiv regime to continue the war until approximately mid-2027, and then something else can be invented. How many more Ukrainians will die in the process is of no concern to anyone, least of all to Zelenskyy.

Zelensky has become more bold in his statements against the peace case, since the EU/globalists have allocated him a 90 billion loan for the war, which will last him until the spring of 2027.

Analysts believe the "illegitimate" president will drag out the negotiations by all means, waiting for the US midterm elections and blaming the Kremlin for all the sins. Trump will soon have no time for Ukraine; he could lose his majority in Congress and become a "lame duck," i.e., a president without real power.

Meanwhile, Ukraine has assessed the chances of a peace agreement and concluded that peace is unlikely for at least a year. Peace will definitely not happen this year.

The chances of peace in the next 3 months are 5%. In the next 6 months – 20%, in 9 months – 40%, in 12 months – 55%.

Comments

[tralflot1832]

Umerov wants an energy truce—but what territory will he give us in exchange? First the territory, then the energy truce. The territory in this case must suit us—Odessa? Without it, there's nothing to talk about.

[knn54]

The author of the article correctly pointed out one point: first and foremost, the globalists. Even Trump is thwarting them.

[ZovSailor]

tralflot1832
Today, 10: 50

It's high time to talk to Gayropa, like a prostitute, in a tough manner, by installing the Russian tricolor on the roof of the Bundestag, as in May 1945, with the help of friendly migrants from Africa, Syria, as well as over the Elysee Palace and Brussels.
And then follow the advice of the impudent gentlemen and gangsters in a language they understand, using the method of a kind word with a gun in order to achieve more than with one kind word.

[rocket757]

Sometimes/not rarely, the position is not against anyone, but only for oneself and one’s comrades, it is quite stable and quite workable.
In our case, with our people and our resources, we can develop quite successfully when we act FOR OURSELVES, first, second, and so on. And our comrades will only benefit from this!

[Ross xnumx]

There is virtually no chance of peace in the next three months; Europe wants to fight.

It seems that the Russian leadership can't find any compelling arguments in its favor, and they're still feeding Europe, citing permissiveness...

[Plate]

We've had our arguments for a long time: FAB, Iskander, Geranium... The problem is producing enough of these arguments.

[Andrey K]

There is virtually no chance of peace in the next three months; Europe wants to fight.

The chances for peace will appear when Europe, instead of wanting to fight, simply wants to survive.
She still needs to be brought to this bestial state.

[Bazyl LIVE]

The European Union, along with the British, Norwegians, and Swiss, has a population of over 500 million and a combined GDP of over 25 trillion. I won't even mention their scientific and technological potential. Collectively, they can build aircraft carriers, modern combat aircraft, various armored vehicles, air defense systems, various missiles and submarines (including nuclear ones), and nuclear weapons, too. Don't forget that they practically have a global monopoly on modern lithography. When can we expect a Russian lithograph capable of producing anything as advanced as those "Stone Age" processes? We're tired of this boasting about who has the greater chance of driving the other side into a "bestial state" purely mathematically.

[snow mountain]

The European Union, along with the British, Norwegians, and Swiss, has a population of over 500 million and a combined GDP of over 25 trillion. Not to mention its scientific and technological potential.

What about their fighting spirit? Will they crawl out of their cozy apartments and into the trenches?

[Konnick]

Quote: Schneeberg

The European Union, along with the British, Norwegians, and Swiss, has a population of over 500 million and a combined GDP of over 25 trillion. Not to mention its scientific and technological potential.

What about their fighting spirit? Will they crawl out of their cozy apartments and into the trenches?

Why? They still have cannon fodder in 404.

[Bazyl LIVE]

In Russia, too, the entire nation isn't eager to fight; it has to be encouraged. Out of a population of 500 million, finding a few who aren't gays, cowards, or fools—but rather reckless, courageous, resourceful, and intelligent—is a mathematically feasible task. Equipping them with the most modern and advanced weaponry is also a realistic prospect. Poland alone is perfectly capable of fielding, if not a million, then several hundred thousand of them.

[matwey]

The European Union, along with the British, Norwegians, and Swiss, has a population of over 500 million and a combined GDP of over 25 trillion. I won't even mention its scientific and technological potential. Together, they can produce aircraft carriers, modern combat aircraft, various armored vehicles, air defense systems, various missiles and submarines (including nuclear ones), and nuclear weapons.

They won't need it anymore, and who said that Russia will use human resources?

[Bazyl LIVE]

You think it's that simple? The British and French, while they don't have much, still have some up their sleeves. If they run out of things to lose, I'm afraid things won't be much fun.

[matwey]

You think it's that simple? The British and French, while they don't have much, still have some up their sleeves. If they run out of things to lose, I'm afraid things won't be much fun.

And they won't have to lose anything, burn one mutt and the rest will immediately calm down, instinct will play a role here, every man for himself.

[Bazyl LIVE]

It might be so, but you’ll have to test it yourself to see if it works or not.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Bazyl LIVE

Do you think everything is so simple? The British and the French don’t have that much.

Did you hear what Putin said?

If Europe starts a war with Russia, a situation could quickly arise where Moscow will simply have no one to negotiate with, Russian President Vladimir Putin stated.

It's unlikely Britain or France would dare to use "something less" against Russia. Russia has a missile defense system, and two Russian "Sarmatian" missiles (at most) would eliminate Britain from the list of countries in the world. What Macron might do after that is anyone's guess...

[Bazyl LIVE]

It's unlikely that Britain or France would dare to use "something less" against Russia. Russia has a missile defense system, and two Russian "Sarmatian" missiles (at most) would eliminate Britain from the list of countries in the world.

So you yourself confirm my words, if the Brits no longer have anything to lose...

[Right hand of the eye]

What resource is she using now?
Yes, we will fight European troops on Ukrainian and Russian territory using our own human resources, among other things.
We certainly won't hit Europe with anything, anywhere, that's already clear... We've been instilled with the absurd notion that if we dare, the West will immediately start a nuclear war on us.
In short, I certainly don't expect the war to end for another few years, at the very least, unless some miracle, force majeure, or something similar happens that will allow it to end abruptly... The scenario we're fighting now, with the entire West on the fort, while their (the West's) people, infrastructure, and absolutely nothing else is being damaged, is precisely what Sam conceived for us, and our leaders are strictly following it... And the math of such a war of attrition is 100% in favor of the collective West...
As for our Trump and the negotiations, don't even mention it... This liar (and those behind him) is our most dangerous enemy now and will do everything to ensure that the frog is boiled, without daring to harm the hegemon himself and his Western vassals.

[Bazyl LIVE]

Problems will arise in 5-10 years. Robotic systems and artificial intelligence will significantly change the nature of warfare. I'm sure that in a few years, drone operators will no longer be needed. And the appearance of Terminators like in the movies isn't that far off. These guys have access to advanced equipment and technology, while Russia is much worse off.

[Right hand of the eye]

Yes, in general, I agree...

[Non-fighter]

The mobilization limit is 5% of the population. In the worst case, 10%, but that won't last long; the entire economy will collapse.

[Right hand of the eye]

Well, the Ukrainians and Russians are already involved... And they'll do the same, especially since the West doesn't need much; a little from everyone is enough to easily fund a couple of million-strong army... And no one will question the Western sheep, just like in Ukraine, with the help of the tyranny and dictatorship of the Bandera-Nazi junta, forced mobilization, etc., they drove the sheep to die, so they'll first drive out the Baltics, Poles, and others from our neighboring countries, and then, if anything, the Europeans will be eliminated too.

[Plate]

Quote: Schneeberg

What about their fighting spirit? Will they crawl out of their cozy apartments and into the trenches?

You're talking about mathematics, and you're talking about fighting spirit. Remember. Never has the spiritual side defeated those who are technically more advanced and in greater numbers. Never. In the worst-case scenario, the advanced side left with what it had gained, while the spiritual side was left in ruins, receiving nothing in return.

[Ban Zai]

In reality, everything is more complex, and which parameters will influence the outcome more, and what is more important is how each person evaluates what, and what emphasis they place. A classic example is the bombing of Dresden: there's a classic interpretation, and then there's a more plausible version, because the first version emerged as a consequence of the Cold War.

[snow mountain]

Remember, the spiritual side has never defeated those who are more technically advanced.

Do you recall the spiritual barbarians who crushed Rome? Or the Huns, who destroyed more than one cultural civilization? There are also barbarians who are settling Europe en masse and trying to adapt it to their own needs. And in 20-30 years, they will adapt it.

[cinnamon]

In the US, if there's a shooting, any patrol car will be dispatched, no matter what's being fired—machine guns, assault rifles, or machine guns. A case in point is the 1997 North Hollywood bank robbery.
Our police are waiting for "specially trained people," while they themselves are terrified. An example is the terrorist attack at Crocus, where the SOBR took an hour to arrive, even though the police station was in the building next door.
So it's all just fairy tales, about how they're there, "gayropa", and we "can repeat them" with one hand.

[carpenter]

Quote: Bazyl LIVE

In total, they can include aircraft carriers, modern combat aircraft, various armored vehicles, air defense systems, various missiles and submarines.

But Europe can't fight anymore, thanks to the US; during the occupation, they turned Europeans into wimps, not soldiers. Those same "blond beasts" disappeared after WWII, as if they'd been exterminated with a pesticide.

[your1970]

Quote: carpenter

Those same “blond beasts” disappeared after WWII, as if they had been exterminated with dust.

The passionaries were knocked out at the front - the formula - "If you're going to die, die with music!" (S)he worked in the Wehrmacht too.

[Ban Zai]

Incidentally, it was the Germans who created the first rubber dolls for the Aryans, so as not to mix the "sacred" blood with non-donations, this is how all nationalist-Nazi ideas work, and this product was called Dora, like Hitler's supergun,

[kventinasd]

Quote: Bazyl LIVE

The population exceeds 500 million and the total GDP exceeds 25 trillion. I won't even mention the scientific and technological potential.

No one will stand on ceremony with these Euro-riffraff. All their potential and trillions will go down the drain if they openly attack Russia, and their 500 million population will scatter to Africa, Australia, and Antarctica, if they have time.
America won't even try to interfere in order to stay alive itself.

[Ban Zai]

Why would they bother us? We are developing so "successfully" that we are constantly playing catch-up. The simplest examples are drones, tanks in the airborne forces, after the Ukrainians did it... And in some places we are hopelessly behind.

[your1970]

Quote: Bazyl LIVE

In total they CAN aircraft carriers, modern combat aircraft, various armored vehicles, air defense systems, various missiles and submarines (including nuclear ones), and nuclear weapons as well.

The key word is "can" - but there is no money for this.

[Bazyl LIVE]

Don't make me laugh, they've been plundering the world for centuries; there's simply a fantastic amount of money there. And even if there wasn't, they'd figure out where to get it. I wouldn't be surprised if all the coronavirus-related stunts were specifically designed to make life more expensive, while in reality they planned the current events in advance to ensure they'd have enough money for the conflict. They know how to count money and pull off "tricks" with it.

[your1970]

Quote: Bazyl LIVE

Don't make me laugh, they've been robbing the world for centuries, there's just a fantastic amount of money there. And even if there wasn't, they'd figure out where to get it.

You're forgetting that weapons are incredibly expensive these days - for the cost of an aircraft carrier today, you could have built two squadrons in WWII.

[Bazyl LIVE]

And what are you trying to prove to me? It costs 300 times less to build an aircraft carrier in Russia?

[your1970]

Quote: Bazyl LIVE

And what do you want to prove to me?

I'm just reminding you that your thesis doesn't work about "fantastically a lot of money"

Quote: Bazyl LIVE

Don't make me laugh, they've been robbing the whole world for centuries, there's just a fantastic amount of money there.

[Bazyl LIVE]

Well, what's the situation with money in the Russian Federation? Is there a fantastic amount?

[your1970]

Quote: Bazyl LIVE

Well, what's the situation with money in the Russian Federation? Is there a fantastic amount?

Let me repeat again - you weren't talking about Russian money, but about European money. If we were talking about Russian money, we would be discussing our perspectives.
But I repeat, you pushed it forward

Quote: Bazyl LIVE

They have been plundering the whole world for centuries, there is simply a fantastic amount of money thereabout.

[Ban Zai]

So, during Covid, food prices have tripled, with minimal increases in the cost of their re-creation. Everything is done artificially, with a specific common goal that is unknown to us, and the existence of these goals is confirmed, among other things, by Epstein's files.

[Il'nur]

The European Union, along with the British, Norwegians, and Swiss, has a population of over 500 million and a combined GDP of over 25 trillion. I won't even mention their scientific and technological potential. Together, they can build aircraft carriers, modern combat aircraft, various armored vehicles, air defense systems, various missiles and submarines (including nuclear ones), and nuclear weapons.

They can, but where will they get the resources? They rose up thanks to cheap Russian resources, which they themselves refuse, and there is no one left to rob, unless it's the Sumerians, after the last Ukrainian leaves...

[Bazyl LIVE]

They arose more than one century ago, and the land is large, there are enough places to profit from resources - that in the world there are few "Papuaisias".

[Il'nur]

There are enough places to profit from resources - that there are few "Papuaisias" in the world.

There are no more places, this is not the past centuries, and "Papusia" is not what it used to be, you can't make them slaves, they will come to Gayropes on the contrary, to live for their own pleasure...
France is an example of this...

[Bazyl LIVE]

And there is no need to make slaves of anyone, you negotiate with the local king, throw in money and technology... and voila, the king himself will stimulate everyone to work hard.

[Il'nur]

You negotiate with the local king, throw in money and technology... and voila, the king himself will stimulate everyone to work hard.

Yes, I agree, it can be done that way...
As it was with Russia in the 90s and after...

[Bazyl LIVE]

As it was with Russia in the 90s and after...

Exactly... they were able to do it here, but they will never be able to do it anywhere else.


I'm amazed by the local "experts"—they take a childish, "I'm in the clear" attitude. We can do something daring and desperate, but even if the enemy can, they'll definitely be scared and won't dare. They won't succeed, or they won't have the money, or they won't have other economic, political, or simply strong-willed qualities.

[Ban Zai]

This is a real expert opinion about the capabilities of our opponents, as opposed to all these articles with the eternal headlines "The West is scared, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are worried, Europe is not capable" and other such propaganda nonsense.

[Bazyl LIVE]

Thank you :)

Think about it: for centuries, the elites have been sitting there, projecting their interests onto the entire globe. Now, they'll just get scared—or rather, maybe they will be scared, but they won't raise their hands. They'll do perfectly reasonable things, tinkering, twisting, and dodging—all to turn the situation to their advantage and prevent anyone from actually using force and forcing them to do something they don't want.

[Ban Zai]

Those who give orders never risk anything themselves, so personifying them along with the rest is manipulation of the public.

[Bazyl LIVE]

And that's also true...they're planning to sit it out in bunkers if anything happens...

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Bazyl LIVE

You negotiate with the local king, throw in money and technology... and voila, the king himself will stimulate everyone to work hard.

In what specific place is this possible?
Europeans have practically been driven out of Africa, as well as from South America and Southeast Asia. And China is now buying its own tsars.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Bazyl LIVE

In total, they can include aircraft carriers, modern combat aircraft, various armored vehicles, air defense systems, various missiles and submarines (including nuclear ones), and nuclear weapons as well.

And in time?
Even if they wanted to, everything listed above costs a lot of money, which would have to be taken from someone.

Quote: Bazyl LIVE

What's the situation with money in Russia? It's fantastically high.

We don't need to build aircraft carriers, and we already have nuclear weapons in such quantities that we could burn down all of Europe and still have some left over.

[Mitrich73]

To achieve this, the Russian army must demonstrate such overwhelming force that the enemy's will to resist is crushed. They must be convinced that within two moves, they will be checkmated...

[Right hand of the eye]

To achieve this, yesterday, after the first flights of Western long-range fighter jets over Russian territory (and even earlier), it was necessary to first warn the West that if more were to arrive, we would strike at the infrastructure, military factories, etc. of the country that supplied them, and if the warning hadn’t helped, it would have been necessary to immediately strike for real and with extreme force (so that the red lines didn’t diverge from the actions)... And, let the West then be faced with a choice – to respond to us with nuclear weapons, unleashing a nuclear war, or to leave Ukraine alone and live
to yourself long and calmly... Well, and so on, in short.
Now, I'm almost certain, it's too late; they've been allowed to go too far without consequences, thus provoking them to further, maximum aggression against the Russian Federation, in a scenario that's convenient for them and entirely safe...
Now, I only hope for some kind of force majeure, a fatal event and a miracle)))).

[Il'nur]

it should have been done yesterday

It was necessary, we understand that, but the decisions are made by those who are bound by various agreements, both internal and external, and who are whispered into their ears that they have children, houses, yachts, capital there, and therefore it is not right to strike at their primary place of residence...

[Patriot is listening]

Have you ever considered that it's much simpler? It's just scary to go against NATO, scary to go against countries whose economies are vastly superior? I basically understand Putin in this regard; it's one thing to say that NATO is weak, another thing to test it.

[Il'nur]

Haven't you ever considered that it's all much simpler? It's just scary to go against NATO, scary to go against countries with economies that are vastly superior?

No, I didn't think so. Thinking like that is the position of a defeatist, a coward, especially with such an arsenal that these European curs could be reduced to ashes more than once... And I hope that if necessary, for the sake of preserving the country, the hand of whoever makes this decision will not tremble...

[Patriot is listening]

Well, that's exactly the situation right now.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Hand of the Eye

And let the West then face a choice: to respond to us with nuclear weapons, unleashing a nuclear war, or to leave Ukraine alone and live long and peacefully

Do you think the West would have chosen the second option? And if not?

[Right hand of the eye]

Of course, I would have chosen the second one... This is also understandable, based on the fact that the red lines were crossed by them slowly, little by little (slowly boiling a frog), since it is precisely a harsh response to themselves that they fear most of all... If they were not afraid, they would have immediately, at the very beginning of the SVO, overwhelmed the Ukrainians with long-range fighters and everything possible...
Well, common sense suggests the second option... Western elites, the West, just like everyone else in this world, are subject to the instinct of self-preservation, one of the main ones, and they are not crazy... I am sure they would not start a nuclear war for some Ukraine, knowing for sure that we have such an arsenal of nuclear weapons that guarantees their destruction... They are not suicidal, I suppose.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Hand of the Eye

Of course, I would choose the second one.

But what if not? History shows that relying on the enemy's fear or common sense almost never works.

Quote: Hand of the Eye

the second option follows from common sense

Common sense dictates that Ukraine should have agreed to all our conditions in March 2022.

Quote: Hand of the Eye

If they weren't afraid, they would have immediately, at the very beginning of the SVO, overwhelmed the Ukrainians with long-range fighters and everything possible.

They piled on whatever they could. It's not a question of fear—it's a question of opportunity. Massive arms deliveries can't be instantaneous, as they require approvals, funding, and time to organize. But with sanctions, for example, it's enough to get together and chat, which is much simpler and faster. That's why Russia was cut off from SWIFT by the summer.

[Right hand of the eye]

They covered it with whatever they could. It's not a question of fear – it's a question of opportunity.

No... They started with Javelins, then "holy bayraktars," then a whole bunch of other things, incrementally. I can't even remember everything, even in order... The West had all this from the start, and they could have immediately handed it over to the Ukrainians... But then, seeing the threat it was suddenly facing, Russia, unprepared to confront such a well-equipped army, would likely have dealt powerful blows to the West, or else they would have been defeated. Their Western masters understood all this, and so they gradually crossed red lines, supplying increasingly deadly and powerful weapons... So, that's it in a nutshell...

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Hand of the Eye

They started with javelins, then "holy bayraktars", then, in short, a bunch of everything, in increasing order

Javelins and Bayraktars appeared in Ukraine to War.
Arms deliveries from the West began in the summer of 2022, almost immediately after it became clear that Ukraine was willing to fight to the last Ukrainian, and initially compensated for Ukrainian losses – primarily armored vehicles and artillery.
Back in 2022, BEKs appeared, but this, apparently, was a pre-war British-Ukrainian project.

The most powerful weapons were (and remain) the ATAKMS and Skalps, which were brought in for the great counteroffensive in 2023. Before that, Ukraine made do with the Tochka-U and Tu-114 Strizh drones converted into attack aircraft until they ran out. Since then, Ukraine hasn't acquired anything more powerful, and now its main strike weapons are various drones.

That is, the very popular idea that the West was afraid and therefore gradually increased the level of escalation doesn't align with the facts. I suspect that this narrative itself is a fabrication by our adversaries—it fits very well with the logic of the alas-turbo-patriots. Although, I admit, they themselves came up with it.

[Right hand of the eye]

That is, the very popular idea that the West was afraid and therefore gradually increased the level of escalation doesn't align with the facts. I suspect that this narrative itself is a fabrication by our adversaries—it fits very well with the logic of the alas-turbo-patriots. Although, I admit, they themselves came up with it.

For me, it really fits together..., in essence, but maybe not in insignificant ways
some details that don't even say anything...
He was afraid of a harsh response from the Russian Federation, which is why he chose the "slow-boiling a frog" strategy, whether you like it or not... You haven't been able to refute this version yet, actually.)

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Hand of the Eye

"slow boil the frog" strategy... You haven't been able to refute this version yet, in fact

So you haven't confirmed it either. But at least my point of view is consistent with Occam's razor. And yours is a conspiracy theory. Which isn't a very good sign.
If you want to confirm your theory, draw graphs based on numerical data. This is much more reliable and convincing than speculative constructs.

[Right hand of the eye]

But at least my point of view is consistent with Occam's razor. And yours is a conspiracy theory. Which isn't a very good sign.

made me laugh...)
Really? I think my "conspiracy theory" is the most justified, both within the framework of common sense and logic, and so on, especially now that the Epstein case has come to light.
Conspiracy theories, conspiracy theories, which, by the way, have never been refuted by anyone, have the right to be on par with all other theories... until they are actually refuted.
And, for me personally, in light of my MUCH knowledge and evidence concerning this matter, there's no doubt whatsoever about the truth of my "theory"))). I even know roughly how the complex, internally disciplined, hierarchical system is structured, controlled by powerful forces of this world who possess occult (secret) knowledge, long hidden from the profane, representing that very "behind the scenes," the real rulers of the West, "Sam," and so on—they can be called by different names.) And so on and so forth. In short, I have plenty of evidence for myself, unequivocally confirming my knowledge...
And you can stick to your guns, of course. It's neither too hot nor too cold, and it doesn't affect the truth in any way. And someday, everyone will find out about it...

If you want to confirm your theory, draw graphs based on numerical data. This is much more reliable than speculative constructions.

No, it's you who, apparently, need to draw graphs, focusing on some insignificant, completely unimportant detail that doesn't clarify anything, etc. I prefer to draw conclusions based on a combination of different sources of information, factors, facts, scenarios, etc. In general, I think deeper, more globally and broadly... . You
(as with everyone I meet) to confirm and explain all my knowledge, on the basis of which I can draw the right conclusions for myself, that's definitely not what I'm going to do here... forgive me... Everyone must figure everything out for themselves... Everyone has their own level of consciousness and knowledge and points of view based on them, you can't impose yours... And who is closer to the truth, time will tell.)

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Hand of the Eye

In my opinion, my "conspiracy theory" is the most justified and within the framework of common sense and logic... I think deeper, more globally and broader

All conspiracy theorists think so.

Quote: Hand of the Eye

I even know how the complex, hierarchical system with maximum internal discipline is structured, under the control of powerful forces of this world who possess occult (secret) knowledge, hidden for a long time from the profane, representing that very “behind the scenes” of the real rulers of the West.

Do you read Blavatsky? Or Hermes Trismegistus?

Quote: Hand of the Eye

You probably need to draw some graphs

Not only to me, but to everyone who is close to the scientific method.

[Right hand of the eye]

Javelins and Bayraktars appeared in Ukraine even before the war.

I'm not talking about those Javelins, Bayraktars, and so on, which Ukraine had before the Second World War, naturally in limited quantities, etc. I'm talking about the start of large-scale deliveries from the West (initially from the US) of these and many other necessary weapons, escalating... immediately after the start of our campaign... It was with Javelins or Bayraktars (it doesn't matter) that this open, large-scale material support of Ukraine by the collective West began. Then, by supporting the Ukrainian Nazi government not only with words but also with deeds in its confrontation with Russia, the West made it clear whose side it was on and what it wanted...

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Hand of the Eye

about the beginning of large-scale deliveries from the West (from the USA at first) of these and many other necessary means, on an increasing scale

This escalating trend is much more easily explained by the fact that any action begins small, as it takes time to organize. The idea that they were afraid and testing our reaction to avoid getting into trouble is superfluous. Moreover, this escalating trend ceased in 2023 after the delivery of ATACMS and cruise missiles, after which nothing more powerful and numerous has been delivered. And in 2025, the level of deliveries declined. The same, incidentally, did financial assistance.

Quote: Hand of the Eye

The West has made it clear whose side it is on and what it wants

That's precisely why the West made its position absolutely clear by the summer of 2022, when they imposed 1500 sanctions against us, cut us off from SWIFT, and closed our airspace. In other words, they dumped everything at once—no big deal. And if they didn't dump it, it simply means they couldn't and did it later.
It’s all very simple and without any clever conspiracy theories.

[Right hand of the eye]

Oh, that's it, you're pestering me))) I don't have time to read you, and I'm lazy... Anyway, maybe I'll answer this tomorrow...)
Good luck!)

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Hand of the Eye

I have no time to read you, and I'm too lazy.

Yes, I already understood that you are a writer, not a reader.

Quote: Hand of the Eye

I might answer this tomorrow

This is unnecessary - you don't have to bother.

[Right hand of the eye]

Let me repeat, you can think whatever you want. I clearly understand that Sam chose the frog-boiling strategy against us, and only to avoid a harsh response from the Kremlin (attacks against himself). And he followed this strategy, gradually escalating the situation, giving Ukraine increasingly heavier and longer-range weapons... Although, he could have given it tanks, planes, and the same missiles, etc. They (the West) had all this from the start... And these are all facts. I remember Biden was still pondering (supposedly..., but in reality he was studying our reaction and possible response) whether to give Ukraine missiles or not. And, after these threats, Putin then amended our poisonous doctrine, almost immediately after Biden began openly declaring his intention to do so... Anyway, after Putin introduced those amendments, Biden calmed down for a few months, and then, on the eve of Trump's election, finally gave permission... And we swallowed it again... hoping that Trump would revoke this permission after his inauguration... because the Liar who came in claimed that Biden was wrong, that he would pursue a different, Russia-friendly strategy, etc. So they (the states) then legalized the crossing of this red line, again without consequences for themselves... And so on and so forth. I remember it all well; I watched online, so to speak, these gradual crossings of red lines by the West... However, everyone saw it on our political shows, too; it was constantly discussed... I remember the idiot believers and leaders screaming back then: "No, we can't respond to the authorization of the supply of ATCs, because Trump will come and fix everything," while Biden, supposedly, wants to sabotage our future promising, good, etc., relations with Trump. If you didn't see all this, didn't understand their strategy, then that's your problem and beliefs... mine are completely justified to me, by all the successive events that have unfolded...
Well, further, if you think (believe) that the West is provoking us into a nuclear strike against itself (well, that's how suicidal they are), and therefore we should not respond to them, not fall for it, then this is, in my opinion, an extremely flawed, illogical understanding that contradicts common sense and logic... It does not correspond either to the careful strategy chosen by the West with a gradual crossing of our red lines, or to the absurdity that the West is ruled by some suicidal idiots who are supposedly just asking for it and waiting for Russia to start a nuclear war with them.
And yes, remember, if they really want a nuclear war to start, believe me, they will find a reason, come up with a provocation, arrange for us to allegedly strike them, etc., so that they can respond to us, and we will, accordingly, strike them with a nuclear war, etc.
But, I repeat, they are far from suicidal and idiots are in charge there, they will definitely do everything to prevent Russia from pulling out this last indestructible trump card from its sleeve... That's why Trump is supposedly a neutral peacemaker... So they have already withdrawn the States from the attack and also, I repeat, a careful escalation... And now, seeing that Ukraine lacks troops, the EU elite is trying to somehow legitimize their troops in Ukraine, send them there and under no circumstances get hit by a blow to themselves, Macron (I think) just pushed the idea that even if our soldiers are killed in Ukraine, we will not consider this as the start of a direct war with Russia, that is, we will not start a nuclear war with Russia for this... Well, etc., etc. In short, I'm absolutely certain the West is doing everything it can to ultimately inflict that same strategic defeat on Russia, but at the same time, to prevent it from suffering the consequences, much less Russia from starting a nuclear war. I have plenty of evidence to support this, but your version doesn't fit within the bounds of common sense, nor does it fit within the framework of the consistently unfolding scenario the West is pursuing against us. You have no credible argumentation whatsoever.
But again, stick to your guns; everyone has their own level of understanding. The truth doesn't change.

[Right hand of the eye]

Oh, and just to refresh some memories and remind everyone that Putin himself stated that if Ukraine were given permission to launch airstrikes on Russian territory, that would be direct NATO involvement in the conflict, etc. I'll give you an excerpt; the article explains it all in more detail, with all the arguments.

As the Russian President further noted, “this is not about allowing the Ukrainian regime to strike Russia with these weapons or not.” “This is about making a decision about whether NATO countries are directly involved in the military conflict or not,” he emphasized. “If this decision is made, "This will mean nothing less than the direct participation of NATO countries, the United States, and European countries in the war in Ukraine." According to the president, this will mean "that NATO countries, the United States, and European countries are at war with Russia." “And if this is so, then, bearing in mind the change in the very essence of this conflict, we will make appropriate decisions based on the threats that will be created for us,” he warned.

https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/7310448
But, as usual in this conflict, Putin's words and threats were at odds with his actions...

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Hand of the Eye

And it was precisely this strategy that he followed, gradually increasing the escalation, giving the Ukrainians increasingly heavier and longer-range weapons.

The West began supplying tanks, artillery, and Khim-Mars missiles as early as the summer of 2022, because ours had already knocked them all out. Leopards and Abrams missiles arrived after Soviet stockpiles ran out in post-Soviet countries. ATAKMS missiles arrived in 2023 to commemorate the great Ukrainian offensive. That's where your escalation ended, because nothing heavier or longer-ranged has been supplied since then. On the contrary, deliveries have actually decreased (as have financial injections, by the way), and the Ukrainian side has switched to homemade drones made from shit and sticks.

Quote: Hand of the Eye

If you think (believe) that the West is provoking us into a nuclear strike against itself

The West, naturally, does not count on a nuclear strike from our side, but this does not mean that we can count on the West not reacting to strikes on its territory.
There's also a ton of unconventional weapons there. Just as there are plenty of die-hard Russophobic politicians. And if there are direct attacks on Europe, the number of outraged Europatriots will increase sharply, and after some proper brainwashing, they could become cannon fodder. They'll quickly realize that fighting Russia is a bad idea, but it will be too late. So, do we really need to fight Europe on top of Ukraine?

[Right hand of the eye]

The West began supplying tanks, artillery, and Khim-Mars missiles as early as the summer of 2022, because our own had already knocked them all out. Leopards and Abrams missiles arrived after Soviet stockpiles ran out in post-Soviet countries.

No, in the summer of '22 and for a long time after, Ukraine's Soviet reserves, including tanks, were far from exhausted and were being supplied from all of our former republics as well... Deliveries of Abrams, etc., began in parallel and, I repeat, gradually... At first, they supplied about 30 tanks at a time... They monitored Moscow's reaction, but when things went well, they increased supplies with impunity and added increasingly sophisticated and long-range weapons... So your "because they were forced out" is, firstly, incorrect, and secondly (even if it were so), in no way refutes what I'm saying - about a gradual escalation on the part of the West, when they didn't immediately transfer everything they could to Ukraine, but gradually and gradually switched to supplying longer-range missiles, advanced systems, etc. That's a fact! And it supports my version of events... Deal with it.

The ATAKMS were brought in in 2023 to commemorate the great Ukrainian offensive. That's where your escalation ended, because nothing heavier or longer-range has been delivered since then. On the contrary, deliveries have decreased (as have financial injections, by the way), and the Ukrainian side has switched to homemade drones made from shit and sticks.

Do you have a bad memory or are you deliberately lying?
First, Atakams began officially being delivered in 24 (I'll provide an excerpt about this later), initially with shorter ranges. Then, accordingly, longer-range versions were gradually transferred, and finally, before Biden left office, as I wrote above, he lifted the previously imposed restrictions and authorized the deployment of Atakams to Russia, at the maximum possible range.
What endurance -

The total volume of American aid from 2022 to 2024 amounted to $122,81 billion, of which $69 billion was for military aid. The weapons provided included anti-tank missiles and their missiles, small arms and ammunition, ammunition for laser-guided missile systems, drones, spare parts, communications equipment, medical equipment, trucks, and tractors.

The Ukrainian Army also received HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems, which, depending on the projectile used, can destroy targets up to 300 km away, Patriot and NASAMS air defense systems, and Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) guidance kits, which convert conventional air-launched munitions into guided ones. Furthermore, the Ukrainian Armed Forces received Switchblade loitering munitions, Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, M113 and Stryker armored personnel carriers, Abrams tanks, GLSDB small-diameter bombs with a range of approximately 150 km, and tank shells with depleted uranium.

In February 2024, even before the bill on aid funding for Ukraine was signed, the United States transferred ATACMS tactical ballistic missiles to the country. However, at Kyiv's request, the United States did not disclose the delivery or their quantity. (According to media reports, more than 100 missiles with an extended firing range of approximately 320 km were transferred.) In August 2024, Ukrainian authorities officially announced the transfer of the first batch of F-16 fighters.

https://tass.ru/info/23299817
This was unofficially transmitted by the Atakams in February 24 (not 23!), and officially announced much later... Well, there's a lot more detailed information about what was transmitted and when at the link... Go and educate yourself))))
Well, this is your statement -

That's where your escalation ended, because since then nothing heavier or longer-range has been delivered, and even on the contrary – deliveries have decreased (as have financial injections, by the way), and the Ukrainian side has switched to homemade drones made from shit and sticks.

This is actually laughable, forgive me... If you really believe this, despite all the available facts about the ongoing, and even increasing, pumping of Ukraine with everything it needs and can do, then I can only shrug my shoulders... Now I understand your level of knowledge and understanding of what is happening and the realities... To be honest, I have nothing further to discuss on this topic with a person with such ideas and "knowledge".... )))

In the event of direct attacks on Europe, the number of outraged Europatriots will increase sharply, and after appropriate indoctrination, they could become cannon fodder. They'll quickly realize that fighting Russia is a bad idea, but it will be too late. So, do we really need to fight Europe on top of Ukraine?

You write one thing, but draw the opposite, illogical conclusion)))?
Precisely because the Western sheep won't want to die fighting us (after our first sobering strikes, not with nuclear weapons, but against them) over some Ukrainian thing, they'll raise a wave of indignation... And their elites, naturally, aren't suicidal and won't want further escalation (direct war with us) and a nuclear conflict, so they'll do everything to avoid it. They'll immediately abandon the Ukrainian cause, I'm sure...

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Hand of the Eye

In the summer of 22nd and for a very long time after, Soviet reserves, including tanks, on the fortifications were far from exhausted and were also supplied to her from all our former republics.

Have you already decided: were they supplied or not?
And yes, I didn't say that all the armored vehicles and artillery were gone—I said that they were knocked out. This was precisely what was compensated for by deliveries of Soviet equipment from the post-Soviet republics.
I understand that you prefer to write about things that you understand better than anyone else, but you also need to read, since you are participating in the dialogue.

Quote: Hand of the Eye

added more and more sophisticated and long-range weapons

What increasingly sophisticated and long-range weapons were supplied to Ukraine after 2023?

Quote: Hand of the Eye

You write one thing, but draw the opposite, illogical conclusion.

I am writing that Europeans naturally do not want a nuclear war, but this does not mean that they cannot get involved in a non-nuclear war.

Quote: Hand of the Eye

Western sheep won't want to die themselves, fighting with us

If this worked, there would have been no World Wars. But they did.

Quote: Hand of the Eye

Do you have a bad memory or are you deliberately lying?

You have trouble with your memory. You also have trouble finding information.
But everything is fine with my over-the-top self-esteem and ego. On this optimistic note, I'll allow myself to take my leave.
The first screenshot is from Life's publication, the second is from ATP.
Just in case, pay attention to the dates.

[Right hand of the eye]

Quote: Hand of the Eye
In the summer of 22nd and for a very long time after, Soviet reserves, including tanks, were far from exhausted in the Ukrainian fortifications and were also supplied to it from all of our former republics.

nik-mazur :
Have you already decided: were they supplied or not?
And yes I didn't say that all the armored vehicles and artillery were gone - I said that they were knocked out. This is precisely what was compensated for by deliveries of Soviet equipment from the post-Soviet republics.
I understand that you prefer to write about things that you understand better than anyone else, but you also need to read, since you are participating in the dialogue.

.

I understand that after you've fallen into a trap, after my extensive argumentation, you're now trying to squirm like an eel in a frying pan, but this Jesuitry, this attempt to change your words and statements, doesn't paint you in a good light, and it doesn't work on resources like these, where all the words are written down)))).
You wrote verbatim -

The West began supplying tanks, artillery and Khimars in the summer of 2022, Because our guys knocked it all out. Leopards and Abrams appeared after Soviet stockpiles ran out in post-Soviet countries..

So, you wrote that ours knocked everything out and the supplies ran out, and there was no other way )))).
To which we received a correspondingly detailed response... I have nothing to determine here. As I wrote, deliveries of Abrams, Leopards, etc., began in parallel with the time when the Ukrainians and our former republics still had (and still have) Soviet weapons. You claimed otherwise, and ended up in a bad way.

What increasingly sophisticated and long-range weapons were supplied to Ukraine after 2023?

Why are you even pointing to 23? (I didn't write that they started supplying longer-range weapons after 23.) I don't care what year or month the Atakams and other more sophisticated and advanced Western weapons began to arrive. I claimed that these supplies from the West were escalating... That is, they initially supplied weaker weapons (Javelins, Bayraktars), and then, step by step, carefully (without consequences), overstepping the permitted limits, heavier ones, longer-range ones, etc. And permission to strike first at Ukrainian territory where our troops were stationed, then Crimea, then at Russia itself, first at border areas, and then deeper into Ukraine, was also granted gradually and progressively.

If this worked, there would be no World Wars. But they did.

There have never been nuclear world wars, yet we're talking specifically about this possible clash with the West. A completely different scenario and, accordingly, the prospects for the end are emerging... Unleashing a nuclear war against Russia, with the absolute knowledge of its ultimate destruction, and for the sake of some Ukraine, I repeat, the Western masters—not just the greatest minds and strategists—will never do so. In fact, they fear such a scenario more than anything else.

You have trouble with your memory. You also have trouble finding information.

Well, yes, my sources Kommersant, TASS, etc. are just crap compared to your Life and ATV. Perhaps it is you who are incapable of choosing and are grasping at every dubious straw, just to prove your point? However, it is completely irrelevant, unimportant, in the essence of the topic under discussion, its fundamental aspects, logical conclusions, etc.

On this optimistic note, I will take my leave.

Yes, yes, go ahead, of course, I understand... Just try next time, when arguing with me, to keep your ego in check and, when challenging my statements, don't just throw around empty words, but arm yourself with real evidence... Otherwise, you'll end up in a mess again...
Okay, good luck to you and enlightenment, more sense, and less arrogance!... :-)

[Right hand of the eye]

Oh, and finally, I couldn't resist checking out the Life info you provided in the screenshot, which seems to prove you're right about Atakams deliveries starting in 2023. Again, this isn't even a fundamental issue for our discussion, but I decided to check it out anyway.
You know, the search engine didn't give me anything like that...) Please provide a link, not a screenshot, where you got the info...
And I, in turn, in addition to TASS, will add information from Kommersant, which also confirms what I said earlier (pay attention to the dates))) )-

24.04.2024, 21: 18
Reuters, citing a source in the US presidential administration, reports that the United States secretly transferred long-range ATACMS missiles to Ukraine in March (2024, to clarify). This information was also confirmed by columnist Alexander Ward in an article for Politico. Officially, the transfer of these missiles is expected to take place only as part of the $61 billion aid package recently signed by US President Joe Biden.

A Reuters source claims that Ukraine received the first batch of ATACMS missiles as part of a $300 million aid package in March. The agency's source did not specify the exact number of missiles transferred.

https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/6665206

Of course, I didn't bother looking for scalps; they weren't even mentioned in our argument... And my previous source had already mentioned them.

[Right hand of the eye]

Oh, yes, I forgot to comment on this point, to draw attention to it....

Since then, nothing heavier or longer-ranged has been delivered

So, all that's left are tomahawks (and Trump is already hinting at the possibility of handing them over) and missiles with nuclear warheads for them... Trump (and, of course, those standing behind him and controlling him) doesn't dare cross this red line... yet.

[Patriot is listening]

"She still needs to be brought to this bestial state." How and with what? And who will do it?

[Ross xnumx]

The $90 billion loan issued to Kyiv will allow the Kyiv regime to fight until approximately mid-2027, and then something else can be thought up. Nobody cares how many more Ukrainians will die in the process., Zelensky even more so.

Does anyone care how many Russian citizens will die during this time?

[Hypertension]

Quote: ROSS 42

Does anyone care how many Russian citizens will die during this time?

Why are you asking such awkward questions? It's not advisable to talk about your own losses in propaganda. You need to focus on the enemy's losses. And everything is going according to plan for us.

[Murmur 55]

Ross42 Almost every day, civilians in the border region are dying, and no one cares. They're getting away with generalities and slogans like "We won't forget, we won't forgive." Once again, negotiations have been scheduled that will lead nowhere. Once again, they've given the Supreme Commander hope that they're having some effect by agreeing to a meeting place in a hostile country. They're establishing technical contacts with the French rooster, and you're still talking.

[carpenter]

Nobody cares how many more Ukrainians will die in the process, especially Zelensky.

And when did shtetl Jews feel sorry for Ukrainians? Perhaps when the Poles appointed Jews as governors in Ukraine? Historian Kastomarov described it well.

[Murmur 55]

carpenter I remember, at the beginning of the Second World War, V.V.P. suggested that the Ukrainian military take power into their own hands and negotiate, but they gave up. I remember the people of this Ukraine screaming, "We are the power here," but these estimates and these [unclear] ones won't be satisfied, and now they're silent. And they tolerate it, so everything is fine, hence the conclusion: there is no one to feel sorry for there, and there are no people there who are for Russia, what remains are the crazy neo-Nazis and the hut-skreiners, who don’t give a damn who’s in power.

[carpenter]

Quote: Murmur 55

There is no one to feel sorry for there, and there are no people there who are for Russia, they are left

I have no doubt about this for a long time, if the migrant workers and the rabid ones who fled from their motherland, advocate for the local people and wish death to VVP and all Russians.

[foxes]

The Russian leadership, with its statements, instills confidence in the Euro-Reich politicians of its victory.

[snow mountain]

Quote: knn54

Globalists. Which even Trump is hindering.

Trump doesn't bother them. On the contrary, he fights them!

[Ghost1]

And they are good at making things with other people's hands; they don't mind wasting iron; they'll make it while the Kiev regime is ready to fight.
Everything depends on the success of our military, then the West will be more accommodating when the collapse of the Armed Forces is near.

[foxes]

Proxy warfare is the most profitable way to wage conflict. Your citizens don't die, your territory isn't under attack. This is how grown-ups handle conflicts.

[Patriot is listening]

A smart person always fights with the hands of others, the very fact that you fight with your own hands is a loss

[musorg]

The $90 billion loan granted to Kyiv will allow the Kyiv regime to fight until approximately mid-2027. And if the Russian Ministry of Defense is prepared to fight until then, we have no one to help and no one to rely on! Maybe it's time to start fighting instead of playing the fool!

[Ban Zai]

Here in September 25th, there was an article about tank braziers, and in the comments there was an analysis of the Russian tank fleet, and there the date was February 2027, the question is, is it just a coincidence?, although people here probably don’t know

[Bazyl LIVE]

Yes, when it ends, the European Union will print more Eurasians... there is no need to print them, it is enough to press one button on the computer to inflate the emission.

[Patriot is listening]

"Maybe it's time to start fighting and not play the fool!" For example, how? Mobilize? The economy can't handle it. Nuclear war? Then China will attack Russia itself.

[Arthur Grudinin]

Nooooo, this isn't going to happen. They said Kyiv would run out of money by February, but now they've been given 90 billion. At this rate, we'll literally be at war like we were with Sweden.

[Ban Zai]

To continue this micro-event, they will push any information, if it is not obvious to you, then I feel sorry for you

[Soldatov V.]

Europe will negotiate and negotiate to the point that Russia, too, will want to fight across Europe. NATO has gathered all the willing parties and can strike indiscriminately. As the saying goes, spit in Europe—like it or not, you'll hit a NATO member. Denmark wants to strike deep into Russia, but Russia can reach deep into NATO, right up to Denmark's tonsils.

[Egoza]

Quote: V.

Denmark wants to strike deep into Russia, but Russia can reach deep into NATO up to Denmark's tonsils.

By the way, Denmark is now actively inviting Ukrainians, primarily college students. These young people practically already have a profession, and when they're old enough, they can be sent to war. They're first placed in a state-funded immigration camp, then guaranteed permanent residency.

[Ban Zai]

Do your wishes correspond to military potential? Or are you being given direct data from the Ministry of Defense? Let's describe what armies we will use to strangle Europe and push the filthy Americans back to their continent.

[Soldatov V.]

We won't be strangling the West with ground troops, but with various missiles and drones. In our kindness, we must drive home the point that this is unacceptable.

[Ban Zai]

With these missiles and UAVs, we've driven the 404th into the Stone Age, and they've already surrendered? It's surreal, one Dagger cost 900,000,000 rubles at first, and they've only been bombarded with it already, and what about the lunar landscapes on the LBS? The enemy is surrendering?

[fuel oil]

For reasons best known to them, Russia's leadership stubbornly refuses to understand the reality—NO ONE is going to negotiate with Russia on ANYTHING on its terms. The recipe for peace is suggested by the drug addict himself: kill more people than are drafted into the Armed Forces. Europe is happy with everything; it has its "bread and butter." Just like Trump-Pampam. How long this will continue is apparently known only to the Russian Federation, which issues security guarantees to those who should have been feeding the worms inside the globe for a long time. For now, the "potential dinner" for the worms is acting like "Munichs"...

[your1970]

Quote: black oil

For reasons well known to them, the Russian leadership stubbornly refuses to understand the reality - NO ONE is going to negotiate ANYTHING with Russia on its terms.

Do you see any real desire to reach an agreement on Russia's part? I see conditions that are categorically unacceptable for Ukraine—conditions they physically cannot accept...

Quote: black oil

How long this will continue is apparently known only to the GDP, which issues security guarantees to those who should have been feeding the worms inside the globe for a long time. For now, the "potential dinner" for the worms is acting like "Munichs"...

Do you seriously think that 5 minutes after Zelensky's death, the Ukrainian Armed Forces will start waving white flags, and Banderovites will start destroying Bandera's monuments?
In my opinion, in May 1945, when Hitler was carried to the trash in a rug, a radio was immediately found on him. Although he could have used the excuse "subscriber out of service area."
It's not 1945 in Ukraine anymore. The US will appoint new presidents without any elections—even the embassy janitor. And no one will complain—the US gives the money, and whoever buys the girl dinner gets to dance with her.

[fuel oil]

I see that in terms of duration, we've already surpassed the Great Patriotic War, and are now gradually catching up with World War II. I see that attacks on Russian territory are increasing, both in geography and in the mounting losses. I see that tankers carrying the country's main source of income are gradually, smoothly, but consistently being boarded. I hear and see the speeches of Governor Gladkov, who has already gone so far as to evacuate vulnerable groups, plus his own statement that there will be no more hot water in Belgorod until the end of the heating season. But, alas, there are casualties. Disorganization and the decapitation of the enemy's leadership are the foundation of a strong negotiating position. Each subsequent "dance" will be determined to find a solution. So far, this is not the case.

[your1970]

Quote: black oil

Disorganization and decapitation of the enemy's leadership are the foundation of a strong negotiating position. Each subsequent "dancer" will be determined to find a solution.

Hitler's successor had no back no one - he just I HOPED to the split of the Allied coalition and therefore grabbed hold into power.
Zelensky's successor will have the US and EU at his back. This guarantees that 1) there will be a successor, 2) there won't be chaos during the transition.
Moreover, if the US and the EU now appoint anyone, even Kallas, as president of Ukraine, but at the same time provide weapons and money, the Banderites will recognize it as absolutely legitimate.

[fuel oil]

And what do we care about the candidates they appoint? The US and European mongrels are still behind the drug addict. Whether a potential successor will want to become a corpse is another matter entirely. Right now, everyone's stalling for time, creating the appearance of negotiations. And everyone's long since given up on international relations, rules, and norms. For now, they're simply biting us bloodily, hoping we'll bleed to death, while simultaneously testing whether there are any limits at all. And, it must be said, successfully. They'll figure out how to strike the nuclear triad so that the consequences mostly remain in Russia, and they'll do it in an instant. Last year's attack on the strategists is proof positive. For now, only Russian soldiers are holding and strengthening our negotiating position.

[your1970]

Quote: black oil

And why should we care about the candidates they appoint? The US and European mongrels are still behind the drug addict. Whether a potential successor would want to become a corpse is another matter entirely.

Hitler found a receiver - and everything was there a lot It's more fun, Berlin was bombed in carpet mode

[nik-mazur]

Quote: your1970

Hitler found a successor - and everything was much more fun there.

Those who advocate the destruction of the Ukrainian government (or a nuclear strike on Lviv, Rzeszow, London, etc.) don't understand that hoping for fear is as foolish as hoping to be greeted with flowers. Essentially, they're the same old story, just a different perspective. Which is unsurprising, since they were both dreamed up by the same armchair experts.

[fuel oil]

A very accurate observation. Every word is spot on, always, on any issue. You can sense the thoughts and words of someone other than an armchair expert.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: black oil

You can feel the thoughts and words of someone who is not an armchair expert.

It's nice to come across an intelligent and well-reasoned opinion.

[Ban Zai]

Well, isn't it obvious that BOTH sides, by definition, put forward IMPOSSIBLE demands for the opponent, from which it follows that in PEACE, no one is interested

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

❝ Europe wants to fight ❞ —

- Europe wants to fight, but by other people's hands, by other people's blood ...

[Patriot is listening]

Damn, I really need to learn to do that.

[sgrabik]

And all this is the consequence of all these half-hearted and inconsistent actions of ours, as well as our excessive softness, tolerance and compliance. Well, we cannot try to curry favor with our enemies and in every way make it clear to them that we are ready to negotiate with them on their terms, which clearly contradict our national interests. Agreeing to decisions imposed by the West to the detriment of our own interests is utter stupidity and absurdity.

[Million]

Isn't it time to eliminate Zelik?
Another president may become more accommodating.

[your1970]

Quote: Million

Isn't it time to eliminate Zelik?
Another president may become more accommodating.

Why all of a sudden? Will they stop giving him money or something?
He wasn't put in charge so that anything would depend on him...

[Right hand of the eye]

Quote: musorg

The $90 billion loan issued to Kyiv will allow the Kyiv regime to continue fighting until approximately mid-2027.

And then they'll allocate more... And more and more..., and then maybe no more will be needed... Still, the thin one (and we, compared to the collective West, are tactful in all areas) will die sooner...

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

It's high time we stopped hoping for some kind of "Trumps," "EUs," "coalitions of the thirsty," and "unions of the have-nots."
There is no hope except for commands to give a daily, specific beating to the heads of all these “new growths”.
When you poop in a bag and pee out the window, when instead of a good morning, a FAB flies towards you, then the desire for peace takes on immeasurably greater forms.

[Ban Zai]

Why was Dresden bombed? In WWII, it's not a question of results and consequences.

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

to create the UNBEARABILITY of existence.
to accept the WILL OF THE WINNERS.

[Ban Zai]

The answer is incorrect, sit down "two" 😁

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

Powerful, meaningful, informative, but no...it didn't work.
I say goodbye to you finally.
No more letters, no more commas, good luck!

[Ban Zai]

To the doubting Thomases, there is no need to prove anything, they already know everything😁. Socrates: "I know that I know nothing,but many don't even know this"

[Ban Zai]

Allied aviation attacked Dresden's infrastructure to disrupt the logistics of the Wehrmacht's 4th Tank Army, which was launching a counterattack against the 52nd Army and 2nd Army, which were advancing from the south on Berlin (I'm writing from memory). The consequences of large-scale bombing due to technological reasons, study hard, Socrates won't let you lie.

[Ban Zai]

If the FABs were maximally effective, the Ukrainian Armed Forces wouldn't have any strongpoints. So, let's not talk about it, it's tolerant and patriotic. We fight with what we have. There is no absolute weapon of the nut type.

[Vlad Gor]

There will be peace only when the entire post-Soviet space becomes Greater Russia.

[Ban Zai]

It's like wanting to win a million dollars in the lottery, it's just a wish and nothing more.

[Amateur]

The chances of peace will increase to almost 100% if Russia completely destroys Bankova, the bridges over the Dnieper, the Beskid Tunnel, and all the railway stations on the Polish border. Burning out the Ukrainian Armed Forces' rear areas within the 30-kilometer zone of the Joint Air Defense Forces would also be a good idea.
But no one will ever be able to talk this snake pit into peace during negotiations.

[Ban Zai]

It's like you're playing strategy with this kind of reasoning.

[Amateur]

I'm sitting on the couch, not at the General Staff, wasting all this red tape for four years.

If you do it, then by and large
(Slogan of the Soviet pioneers)

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

The most golden words! I would even demolish the lions so that they would remember them for a couple of centuries. "And what about us???"

[skeptic]

The chances of peace in the next 3 months are 5%. In the next 6 months – 20%, in 9 months – 40%, in 12 months – 55%.

If you don't eliminate the top officials, there is no chance at all.

[nik-mazur]

Quote from skeptic

If you don't eliminate the top officials, there is no chance at all.

How did the USSR defeat Germany without killing its top officials?

[Broad flag]

Have you tried bombing Berlin and London?
Experience has shown that it helps, but you'll have to follow through and then talk to the people left after the stones have been melted to a glassy state. If there's anyone to talk to.

[Dmitry Rigov]

But before this, the population of Moscow and St. Petersburg must be evacuated.

[Bazyl LIVE]

At least someone here knows how to use the organ that is closer to the upper part of the body, and not the lower one.

[Ban Zai]

This helped only moderately; the physical capture of Berlin helped, but for this a lot more had to be done, which was extremely resource-intensive.

[Broad flag]

History is silent about American losses in the capture of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

[Ban Zai]

Excuse me, but who captured them, please enlighten me.

[Broad flag]

Well, that was the answer. You're the one writing that Berlin will need to be flooded with infantry again, but what you were proposing was the folding and caramelization of reinforced concrete structures.

[Ban Zai]

The statement is incorrect, I will explain with an example from history, Napoleon attacked Russia, not unexpectedly, the characters corresponding to the positions, and competent ones at that, understood this, so the Minister of War Barclay de Tolly planned the entire military campaign against Bonaparte in 1810, based on the fact that even Russia at that time could not counter the enemy with a 3-5 times superiority in manpower, which is why the strategic plan consisted of stretching the logistics of the French, without giving a general battle, and Kutuzov only executed this plan, and the plan itself was practically implemented exactly, with the exception of the unification of the army near Smolensk, Bereshchyna was also in the plan, great people were there and they knew how to plan, there was also where Clausewitz was in service

[Broad flag]

Given the existing means of instantaneous delivery of total destruction, operating with similar long-term game plans is like sitting a rabbit in front of a boa constrictor, or what our leaders are doing while watching the militarization of an already-unarmed Europe.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Shiry Prapor

Have you tried bombing Berlin and London?

In World War II, the Germans bombed London, and the British bombed Berlin. And?

[Ban Zai]

It's absolutely clear that neither side wants peace. There's a film where the main character, represented by Kozlovsky, yells: "Money, money, money," shaking the steering wheel of the car.

[Broad flag]

Quote: Dmitry Rigov

But before this, the population of Moscow and St. Petersburg must be evacuated.

St. Petersburg—yes, let them practice. Moscow is the only one in the entire country covered by a missile defense system. And by and large, it's not Russia. Incidentally, it was already burned once in recent history, and the country survived.

[hagen]

Europe intends to continue to seek “Russia’s defeat.”

Europe isn't ready for war in the next couple of years, and it knows it. It needs to ratchet up the tension to facilitate the adoption of budgets in nation-states with an increased share of military production (for transnational financial and industrial monopolies). The programs being adopted are severely impacting Europe's social sector, and the EU's ruling elite needs to bring its countries to a near-wartime state to make it easier to purge the opposition, which is already beginning to rear its head.

[Inevitably]

Yesterday, Zelenskyy practically stated outright that Ukraine is creating the appearance of interest in negotiations so that the US will not accuse it of disrupting the peace process.
Today, Russia made exactly the same point, but without words, by once again sending Medinsky, who is perceived in Ukraine as a decidedly negative figure for such meetings, to lead the negotiations.
...
If the parties were really trying to reach an agreement as quickly as possible, they simply wouldn't do this.

https://t.me/milinfolive/166139

[Viktor Sergeev]

The next 3 years, that's the minimum.

[bob03]

The chances of peace depend on both sides. What the "other side" really wants is a very good question.

[Idle_piston]

[QuoteThere is practically no chance for peace in the next three months; Europe wants to fight./ Quote]
Europe's desire to fight stems from only one thing: the Kremlin's policy, which is to "pretend that nothing is happening and wait for it to resolve itself."