UAZs in uniform: will the diesel engine variant be in demand in the army?

The Ulyanovsk Automobile Plant plans to launch production of UAZ vehicles with a new powertrain by the third quarter of 2026. The plant's press service reported this to popular publications in January. The vehicles will feature a 1,9-liter diesel engine paired with a six-speed manual transmission (6MT). The engine delivers a maximum power of 136 hp at 4000 rpm, a maximum torque of 310 Nm at 1800-2800 rpm, and meets Euro 5 emission standards.

This model was certified in the spring and received Vehicle Type Approval (VTA). However, for now, the UAZ truck with a diesel engine and six-speed manual transmission still has pre-production status.

Diesel vehicles are more suitable for commercial transport; this type of engine is preferable for them because it offers greater traction and better fuel economy than gasoline engines. In the armed forces, most military vehicles are also equipped with diesel engines, but all of them meet the Euro-0 emission standard and have less stringent fuel quality requirements, and many are multi-fuel.

Previously, UAZ Profi models were equipped only with gasoline engines or with liquefied or compressed natural gas (LNG) versions. Diesel engines suitable for light commercial vehicles simply weren't produced in our country. The launch of production of the 136-horsepower, two-liter turbodiesel for Argo trucks in Tatarstan in the summer of 2023 opened the door to the possibility of this engine appearing under the hood of a UAZ.

Of course, simply installing a new engine in a car is impossible. Serial production requires extensive adaptation and extensive testing. That's why, almost immediately after the launch of such engines in Russia, the Ulyanovsk Automobile Plant assembled a batch of test trucks for testing and fine-tuning the new powertrain.

The car starts off easily in second gear and accelerates briskly. Low-end traction is incredible. Perfect for a truck. On city streets, an empty truck can give many passenger cars a run for their money. The key is to keep up with the gearshifting: revving the engine above 3 rpm is pointless—the car cruises confidently at low revs. Soundproofing in the Pro is worse than in the Patriot—the turbo whistle is the loudest part of the overall noise. The transmission has crisp gear shifts and short shift throws. The car averages 11,6 liters of diesel fuel per 100 km.

Comments

[faridg7]

Euro 5 is a Common Rail system. Are you nuts about putting something like that into military vehicles? Those injectors will die after the first field refueling, and no one will separate the fuel for them. Unless the goal is to use these vehicles only for parade purposes and embezzle budgets, this is nonsense.

[Uncle lee]

environmental class Euro-5.

The majority of military vehicles are also equipped with diesel engines, but they all have the Euro-0 emission standard.

Yes, there is a difference...

[nazgul-ishe]

This one seems to be omnivorous, ecological class Euro-0.

[ASSAD1]

Is Chinese JAK omnivorous?

[Popandos]

Euro5

I wish I knew the origins of this diesel engine; it's clearly some kind of Chinese clone of a European or American engine. Then I'd look at the fuel system, electronics, and so on. It might even be possible to simplify the fuel and control system to at least Euro-3 standards.

[Voronezh]

Why do you think this is being done? For a report with pictures.

[olboop]

Euro 5 is a Common Rail system.

IMHO, it's not necessary at all. For example, the YaMZ-536, installed on Ural trucks.

[faridg7]

Quote: olbop

Euro 5 is a Common Rail system.

IMHO, it's not necessary at all. For example, the YaMZ-536, installed on Ural trucks.

The YaMZ-536 has a Bosch Common Rail fuel system.

[olboop]

I won't argue, but it seems that the YaMZ-536 has been produced for quite a long time, first for EURO-3, then 4, and finally for 5. Perhaps, in the latter case, for common rail.
Although, in principle, it is possible to upgrade a diesel engine to EURO-5 standards without a common rail.

[faridg7]

Quote: olbop

I won't argue, but it seems that the YaMZ-536 has been produced for quite a long time, first for EURO-3, then 4, and finally for 5. Perhaps, in the latter case, for common rail.
Although, in principle, it is possible to upgrade a diesel engine to EURO-5 standards without a common rail.

The question of the environmental friendliness of engines for military equipment is completely meaningless.
The engine must be as simple as possible, omnivorous, unpretentious, without electronics and generally without unnecessary electrics - a tractor.

[faiver]

That's right, an army vehicle should be cheap and simple.

[gsev]

Quote: faridg7

The question of the environmental friendliness of engines for military equipment is completely meaningless.

Diesel engines are more expensive than gasoline engines. Does it make sense to build a more expensive engine for the military? A truck's lifespan is shorter in wartime than in peacetime. It's more cost-effective to use diesel engines in vehicles far from the war zone.

[Arkady007]

Then, to begin with, we need to think about engines for ballistic missiles for Euro-5.
And once they start dropping nuclear bombs, the environment will get really bad from the harmful emissions from rocket engines.

[air wolf]

I don't understand why they don't put a 2-liter turbocharged engine on the UAZ. It will start easier in winter and at least warm up a little, and in terms of traction and fuel economy, turbocharged and diesel engines have long been equal. I have a Chinese 1,6-liter 186 hp, in winter with warm-up 9.5 liters, the weight of the car is 2.2 tons.

[Broad flag]

Let's just put a 1.5L twin-turbo on the UAZ then; the car won't last long anyway, only a couple of deliveries to support attacks or an attempt to escape from a drone.

[Amateur]

They install whatever engine is in the series.

[ASSAD1]

The author modestly kept silent about the origin of this engine, and if he kept silent, it means he is Chinese.

[RR_Vernadsky]

The author modestly remained silent about the origin of this engine, and if he remained silent, it means he is Chinese.

This is a JAC HFC4DB2-1D1 inline-four, 2,0-liter turbocharged diesel engine with common rail fuel injection. This locally manufactured engine features a chain-driven valve timing system and a cast-iron cylinder head. The plant handles all key manufacturing operations, from casting and machining to assembly and testing.

[mz]

Quote: RR_Vernadsky

This is a JAC HFC4DB2-1D1 inline-four, 2,0-liter turbocharged diesel engine with common rail fuel injection. This localized engine features a chain-driven camshaft timing system and a cast-iron cylinder head.

The cylinder block is cast iron, the cylinder head is aluminum.

[faiver]

This is a Jac HFC4DB2-1D1 in-line four-cylinder 2,0-litre turbocharged diesel engine with common rail fuel injection.

- Anyone who installs this on an army vehicle can be jailed immediately.

[Alex013]

Hunters used to be equipped with Polish Andoria diesel engines (Euro 2, by the way). What a gamble...

[faiver]

Euro-5 has no place on military equipment.

[Konnick]

For a diesel engine to pay for itself through savings, the vehicle needs to have at least 100,000 km driven annually. A vehicle of this class in the military doesn't have that kind of mileage. Installing an engine twice as expensive and more complex doesn't make sense. There's no point in racing around town, but in winter, a gasoline engine will give a diesel engine a run for its money when it comes to starting and warming up quickly. Moreover, diesel fuel is now more expensive.

[faiver]

Moreover, diesel fuel is more expensive now.

- It's done artificially, like a market, in fact, diesel fuel is a by-product of gasoline production, and since we have the entire market through our butt, we are sitting in this very butt

[Dedok]

- it's done artificially, like a market, In essence, diesel fuel is a by-product of production gasoline,

You are revealing "all the secrets" of our "fuel and energy complex"...
That's how it was in Soviet times - but now... that can't be...

[faiver]

and now... this can't be...

- apparently in accordance with the latest resolution of the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions...
Decommunization, my friend...

[Dedok]

- apparently in accordance with the latest resolution of the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions.

Somewhere in the mid-70s I ended up in the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions canteen, it was July and hot...
They poured some beetroot soup into my plate, put some sour cream in it and didn’t give it back...
Do you know why? - It turns out they haven't brought any ice yet!
They put in some ice cubes and then gave it back... They charged me 15 kopecks for the whole meal, and that's etched into my memory for the rest of my life...

[faiver]

Where can I eat like that for 15 kopecks?

[Dedok]

But in winter, a gasoline engine will give a diesel engine a run for its money when it comes to starting and warming up quickly.

I remember the history of the construction of the Baikal-Amur Mainline: Magiruses started without any problems...
and sometimes the frosts were below -50... and the oils are not comparable to modern ones (0W20)...

[Konnick]

Quote: Dedok

But in winter, a gasoline engine will give a diesel engine a run for its money when it comes to starting and warming up quickly.

I remember the history of the construction of the Baikal-Amur Mainline: Magiruses started without any problems...
and sometimes the frosts were below -50... and the oils are not comparable to modern ones (0W20)...

Of course, there was a good pre-heater, but for a UAZ, this is overkill.

[Dedok]

Of course, there was a good pre-heater

there were "as many" as three of them!
and one specifically for the battery box...

[Konnick]

Quote: Dedok

Of course, there was a good pre-heater

there were "as many" as three of them!
and one specifically for the battery box...

Let's put three heaters on a UAZ, and it will cost as much as a plane. Find out what kind of UAZs people drive in Yakutia.

[faiver]

Find out what kind of UAZs people drive in Yakutia.

- and on which ones?

[Konnick]

Quote: faiver

Find out what kind of UAZs people drive in Yakutia.

- and on which ones?

On gasoline

[faiver]

I'll disappoint you, but here in Yakutia, the choice of a car with a gasoline or diesel engine depends not on how quickly it warms up, but on the cost of maintenance and your wallet. In winter, cars are often left running during the day, and engine block heaters aren't particularly popular.

[Konnick]

Quote: faiver

and from the cost of service and your wallet.

Well, in the army they also watch their wallets; the army is not supported by oligarchs, but by ordinary citizens.

[faiver]

Well, in the army they also watch your wallet.

- It doesn't look like it, otherwise what were the injection nurses, hunters and patriots doing there?

[Konnick]

Quote: faiver

Well, in the army they also watch your wallet.

- It doesn't look like it, otherwise what were the injection nurses, hunters and patriots doing there?

Fuel injection systems are cheaper than carburetor systems.

[faiver]

Fuel injection systems are cheaper than carburetor systems.

- Thanks, I had a laugh
Back when both types of UAZs were produced, fuel-injected ones cost about thirty percent more, and their maintenance was a complete fairy tale for adults.

[Konnick]

Quote: faiver

Fuel injection systems are cheaper than carburetor systems.

- Thanks, I had a laugh
Back when both types of UAZs were produced, fuel-injected ones cost about thirty percent more, and their maintenance was a complete fairy tale for adults.

I'm talking about production cost, and anything more expensive is the consumer cost...keep laughing. For your information, a touchscreen in a car costs the manufacturer less than just buttons, but they sell it for more.

[faiver]

A touchscreen... in an army vehicle? Like when you're being tailed by an FPS, which is a very useful thing, yeah...
It's cheaper than a button in China, but what about here? I highly doubt it...

[Broad flag]

You know that precision mechanics is now much more expensive than electronics.

[gsev]

Quote: faiver

It's cheaper than a button in China, but what about here? I highly doubt it...

A 7-inch Chinese operator panel retails in Russia for just over 10,000 rubles. A good pushbutton costs around $20. As early as 1980, in Europe, an automation system with 8 intermediate relays was more cost-effective to implement using a programmable controller. Today, there are controllers and operator panels with 8 inputs and 8 outputs with touchscreens and 6 inputs and 4 outputs with push-button control. If such systems are mass-produced, the cost-effectiveness of the panel can be justified compared to 5 relays.

[Dedok]

Let's put three heaters on a UAZ, and it will cost as much as a plane. Find out what kind of UAZs people drive in Yakutia.

three - no need, at least one...
I drive a diesel myself: it's -25 outside now, I go out, get into an already warm car, and start the diesel without any problems...
These same heaters/stoves were also installed on Ikarus buses...
But here, until now, no one has bothered to produce "normal" autonomous heaters...

[Konnick]

Quote: Dedok

I drive a diesel myself: it's -25 outside now, I go out, get into an already warm car, and start the diesel without any problems...

I also get into a warm car, only mine doesn't have a starting heater, but it does have a remote control. The other one sits in a warm garage and doesn't smell like a tractor. Military equipment should be simple and cheap, but with a diesel engine and a starting heater, a UAZ will cost a million more.

[Broad flag]

Binary and Planar have been more or less decent Webasto clones for about 15 years now, and they're not that expensive when ordered in bulk.
The problem is that this whole thing, merrily and harmoniously, with three electric drives (the booster fan, the fuel pump, and the coolant pump) + the controller, drains the battery so much with regular use of the heater that it kills it in a couple of seasons.
The UAZ has been transformed from a primitive, cheap mud-mover into such a piece of crap that soon even the most dedicated patriot will only use it when there are no other options.

[Dedok]

The problem is that this whole thing, merrily and harmoniously, with three electric drives (the booster fan, the fuel pump, and the coolant pump) + the controller, drains the battery so much with regular use of the heater that it kills it in a couple of seasons.

Yes, you have to pay for everything...
But simply installing an autonomous system into a car without making other (as you rightly noted) changes is impossible, or rather, stupid...
It is necessary to change the requirements for the generator, the requirements for the battery, the location of the battery...
I'm not complaining about this, the battery is 90 Ah (this is a standard solution) and is located in a warm zone, the generator provides recharging just above the engine idle speed...
and the designer must make changes to his ashcan.
just like in the case of using a remote control for an engine operating on the Otto cycle...

[faiver]

The UAZ has been transformed from a primitive dirt-dump truck into some kind of piece of shit.

- That's right, Spacer axles that are useless in the mud, useless fuel injection, and a bunch of unnecessary electronics that don't work. Once, while hunting in the middle of a swamp, the fuel pump died - we put a canister on the hood and let the gas flow by gravity, and that's how we got to dry land, rebuilt the fuel pump, and continued on. If it had been a fuel-injected car with an electric fuel pump, we would have had to follow another car through the swamp and then trudge another 10 km through the taiga.

[RR_Vernadsky]

Quote: Konnick

For a diesel engine to pay for itself through savings, the vehicle needs to have at least 100,000 km driven annually. A vehicle of this class in the military doesn't have that kind of mileage. Installing an engine twice as expensive and more complex doesn't make sense. There's no point in racing around town, but in winter, a gasoline engine will give a diesel engine a run for its money when it comes to starting and warming up quickly. Moreover, diesel fuel is now more expensive.

Everything you write is correct. We can also add repairability, availability of spare parts, and whether a conscript soldier will get along with it.

[Soldatov V.]

We have the Altai Engine Plant in Barnaul, which produces excellent diesel engines for tractors and combines. The engine for our Yenisei combine was excellent. Full production, they can also develop their own engine for UZA. Without Chinese manufacturers, and import-substituting.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

You yourself recently vehemently supported the introduction of Euro standards. You claimed that upgrading an engine to them would be a piece of cake? Or am I mistaken?
And then they suddenly remembered about the tractor diesel, which cannot be converted to meet European standards.

[Soldatov V.]

You're the one who foams at the mouth when you comment. Please be more restrained and take care of yourself. We must fight for the environment; I supported it then and now. And I'm not suggesting installing a tractor engine in a UAZ, but designing or adopting a good automotive diesel engine for our military and civilian vehicles.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

So, you're all for everything good and against everything bad. But at the same time, you support the EURO environmental standards, introduced by the enemy to stifle our automobile industry.
The diesel engine was previously removed from the UAZ precisely because it did not meet EURO standards.
It's funny. Don't you feel like you're split in two?

[gsev]

Quote: V.

and design or adopt a good design of an automotive diesel engine for our military and civilian vehicles.

Is this achievable? Perhaps producing such an engine would require a radical overhaul of Russia's chemical and machine tool industries? Are there drills and machines in Russia for making diesel injectors for automobiles? Friends at an aircraft factory tried to import-substitute a nozzle. A Chinese one costs 100 rubles. An import-substituted one costs 6000 rubles.

[Soldatov V.]

In Russia, there are about twenty factories producing diesel engines of various sizes and purposes, with a full manufacturing cycle. The only thing missing is a diesel engine for passenger cars, the smallest of them. I don't know why; I was surprised by this even in Soviet times. I'm an engineer and technologist who manufactures and repairs marine machinery and mechanisms.
There was one explanation that if diesel were widely distributed, there wouldn't be enough diesel fuel for everyone, because the yield of diesel fuel fractions from refining a ton of oil is much less than gasoline, and there might not be enough for the military, the navy, and the national economy.

[Down]

[quote=Soldatov V.]We have the Altai Motor Plant in Barnaul.
You meant to say there was a factory))

[Eug]

I've always been a proponent of diesel, even in passenger cars, let alone military ones. It would be highly desirable to have something with reduced noise and higher fuel quality.

[gsev]

Quote: Eug

It would be highly desirable to have it with reduced "volume" and meet the requirements for the quality of diesel fuel.

A diesel engine should fundamentally be louder than a gasoline engine. The higher the quality requirements for motor fuel and lubricants, the lower the price of an internal combustion engine.

[IVZ]

... will the diesel engine version be in demand in the army?

The issue is irrelevant. The issue of product quality should be addressed. Everything else is secondary.

[Voronezh]

Say what you want, but I don't believe our industry can't make a diesel engine! That our engineers are dumber than the Chinese ones. More likely, it's "we can, but why bother?"

[Dedok]

That our engineers are dumber than the Chinese ones.

Do you see many engines and cars made "by the Chinese themselves"???
What we see is licenses, licenses and more licenses...
How many famous Europeans and Americans work, I mean work!, in Chinese industry?

[Voronezh]

So what? Okay. Are our guys dumber than the Americans and the rest? I don't believe it. Everyone's still like, "We can, but why bother?"

[Dedok]

So what? Okay then. That ours are dumber Americans and others? I don't believe it.

We are not dumber, we are just lagging behind...

Everyone is the same: "we can, what for"

Why did you fall behind? Well, you answered the question yourself...
There they believe that our destiny is "Granta"...

[Soldatov V.]

In general, fuel logistics for the army should be based on a single fuel type. This makes it easier to supply both transport and military equipment. Another issue is the mobilization of civilian transport for the army's needs in the event of war. All powerful trucks run on diesel fuel, so the choice is obvious.

[Romanenko]

UAZs in uniform: will the diesel engine variant be in demand in the army?

I think there will be demand. Based on experience building linear facilities in sparsely populated areas with complex logistics, many contractors have long since switched to diesel fuel as much as possible. Supplying a single fuel type for most equipment greatly simplifies supply chains. And that's not even mentioning the military.
Many years ago, I had to mix gasoline and diesel fuel in my truck. A two-month "outback" trip was coming to an end, and it turned out our fuel tanker wasn't big enough for everyone. We had a GAZ-66 tanker, which filled up the BMDs and BTRDs, but there was no time to go for gas. My ZIL-157 had half a tank left, and given the mediocre roads and the engine's poor fuel economy, I was seriously worried I wouldn't make it to the next gas station. The maintenance chief said, "Top it up with diesel and let it run over the bumps, you'll get there." And indeed, the engine, although it smoked and spat, made it to the next gas station with almost no problem. After refueling, I checked the spark plugs—it was terrible, but everything worked.
So I know firsthand the multi-fuel capability of the old ZIL six, but a single fuel supply would have been much better.

[RR_Vernadsky]

I think it will be in demand.

Let's see what the army decides?!

[Victor Alien]

The main thing is not to be lazy and change gears more often: there is no point in revving the engine above 3 thousand rpm - the car drives confidently at low revs.

It seems like people who've never driven a car write this. RPMs above 3000 are only needed in rare cases when overtaking. Or for those who like to always be the first one out of traffic lights. The primary operating range of engines is up to 3000 rpm, even with a gasoline engine. Anything else is just unnecessary noise and fuel consumption. And unless the car has 8 to 32 gears, you won't be shifting any faster. If only because the engine doesn't have anywhere near 250 horsepower. What the hell are RPMs above 3000 for?! It's a diesel, so why the hell are they even using a 4,2-liter inline-six engine? Or a 3-liter 6-cylinder gasoline and diesel engine. Why can't they make a tractor engine with 1-2-3-4-6 cylinders for the same piston size, while VAZ, ZMZ, and UMP can't?! Oh yeah, they all live in the USSR and can't genetically engineer a different engine type and model... VAZ couldn't even separate the engines by model—they don't even consider the weight of the cars. They just lumped everything together. UAZ and GAZ should take a look at the Chinese BAW-212 frame and learn from its crossmember and exhaust system layout. Similarly, they could also integrate the gas tanks into the frame, with the exhaust on the side of the side member. And by the way, the army had diesel Hunters with ZMZ-514 engines. A friend of mine served under contract in the Kemerovo area about 15 years ago and told me about them. ZILs and GAZs also had diesel engines. He served as a driver.

[Zaurbek]

It’s not clear why VAZ and GAZ didn’t make 5-6c engines.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Because they operate in the budget, low-cost car sector. Six cylinders are still more expensive, not by a third, but less, but still more expensive.

[RR_Vernadsky]

By the way, the army had diesel Hunters with a ZMZ-514 engine.

Of course, there were attempts before, but the ZMZ 514 is a copy of the Austrian "Steyr"... the engine turned out to be noisy, fragile and did not want to heat up.

[mz]

Quote: RR_Vernadsky

but the ZMZ 514 is a copy of the Austrian "Steyr"... the engine turned out to be noisy, fragile and did not want to heat up.

The ZMZ-514 is unrelated to the Steyr diesel engine. Their design is fundamentally different: the Steyr (or rather the Steyr M1 family) doesn't have a separate cylinder head; it's a monoblock. The ZMZ-514 is based on the ZMZ-406 gasoline engine.
A copy of the Steyr - GAZ-560 with variations.

[Egg]

Quote: Victor Alien

Diesel Hunters with ZMZ-514 engines

There was such a thing, rare guano...

[Zaurbek]

Ideally, a diesel engine should be on par with the old LKs... 4 liters and 150 hp.

[faiver]

Why? A Nissan 2,8 diesel engine with 116 hp and no turbo, like the one on the 90s Nissan Patrol, is enough.

[Broad flag]

There was a line of "tractor" (without chain or timing belt) excellent TD 28/32/42
This is what we need, but here a mountain can only give birth to a mouse...
TLC also had pretty good inline-six engines, but for some reason the Nizza ones were valued higher.

[faiver]

Well, I'm writing about the 28th, I just had to use both the Patrol and the Kruzak, Toyota diesels are more delicate, and maintenance was more expensive.

[Dedok]

Ideally, a diesel engine should be on par with the old LKs... 4 liters and 150 hp.

I agree - it's an unpretentious, or to put it more accurately, indestructible eight...
But then you need a different car: something like a Dodge 3/4 from the WWII era or a Hummer...

[Zaurbek]

KAMAZ announced something based on a 6,5L Cummins diesel engine and a Chinese Dongfeng pickup truck.

[Dedok]

KAMAZ announced something based on a 6,5L Cummins diesel engine and a Chinese Dongfeng pickup truck.

There is a suspicion that we will not be able to "repeat" Cummins...
As they say today, there won't be enough competencies...

[Zaurbek]

Why repeat it? It's been produced at Kamaz for a long time now.

[Dedok]

Why repeat it? It's been produced at Kamaz for a long time now.

Liebherr produces it too, but it doesn't make people happy.

[Zaurbek]

I haven't heard of it. Everything seems fine there. They used to launch Kamins before.


If we assume that the new Remdiesel vehicle will indeed be a twin (or simply an analogue/classmate) of the Chinese pickup, we can roughly judge its characteristics.

The DongFeng Warrior MS600 is a continuation of the Mengshi M50 (a DongFeng sub-brand), which is based on a licensed platform of the American Hummer H1. The Warrior MS600 is 5970 mm long, has a wheelbase of 3700 mm, a curb weight of 3750 kg, and a payload capacity of 2000 kg. Under the hood is a 6,7-liter Dongfeng-Cummins turbodiesel engine producing 314 hp and 1050 Nm, paired with a 6-speed automatic transmission and all-wheel drive.

[faiver]

Why do we need a common rail engine again? Should we shell out money for maintenance?

[Zaurbek]

Of course, it's better to move money offshore and spend it on paintings. Like Serdyukov's team did, and then Shoigu's.
That's better.

[faiver]

You are confusing warm with soft...

[Zaurbek]

I'm not mistaken. If they've been doing this for 20 years, where did the army get its engines from? The UAZ diesel specifications were in place back in the Soviet era, especially since the era of unique military vehicles in the Army is over. The current focus is on maximum unification with civilian vehicles.

[Rolaf]

Euro environmental class

They got involved in this EURO to first enrich the Bosch concern by buying fuel equipment and auto-electrics, and now also Chinese manufacturers.

[Zaurbek]

Why did we get into this mess? This is progress.

[faiver]

No, this is idiocy from the green agenda, which we don't need at all..., especially in the army, where anyone can get behind the wheel...

[Zaurbek]

In our army we already have Euro 0.

[faiver]

And you are the one offering engines that are far from Euro-0.

[Zaurbek]

They have Euro 0 versions. Kamaz-Liebherr with 450-750 hp has a Euro 0 version for military use.

[faiver]

link to Euro-0 from Liebherr?

[Zaurbek]

https://news.drom.ru/47172.html

[faiver]

Where is Euro-0? And where is it manufactured? A ten-year-old link is meaningless...

[Zaurbek]

Do you have any feedback? They'll put it on something heavy.

[faiver]

Where have they placed them in ten years? Batva, you can keep your head in the clouds. The army team had a lot of exhibitions, they demonstrated a lot, but still nothing...

[Zaurbek]

There's a production R6 engine...for civilian use. It's already being produced in three versions: 460-480-560hp. A 750hp version was announced, and the 560hp version was released six months ago.

[faiver]

yeah Euro-5...............

[Zaurbek]

Well, it's hard to make Euro 5 from Euro 2... on the contrary, it's probably easier

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Formless, devoid of any other purpose
and the meaning, except for unlimited expansion, the feverish activity is already
It has captured humanity for several centuries. It was called "progress" and
for a time it became something of a surrogate religion.
Indeed, this is progress. But it is used as a means of subjugating those who seem to be lagging behind.

[sgrabik]

In the army, all this showy fight for the environment is of no use to anyone and is an additional burden. Army equipment must, first and foremost, be as reliable, unpretentious, and easy to repair as possible; all other desires are of little importance.

[YanniKounnar]

11.6 liter pour 100 km me semble beaucoup pour un vehicule de 2.2t et 138 cv max .?
Notre petit utilitaire avec un petit moteur de 2lt, consomme normalement 6.3 lt faiblement chargé et ces deux derniers jours nous venons de faire 1850 km très chargé + une remorque de 750kgs. Soit un total de poids roulant de 3t6 pour une consommation de 9.2 liters/100km et je trouve déjà cela beaucoup ( surtout lorsque les prix varient entre 1.58€ en supermarchés et 2.10€ sur autoroute ....


11,6 liters per 100 km seems like a lot to me for a car weighing 2,2 tons and with a maximum power of 138 hp?
Our small truck with a small 2L engine usually consumes 6,3L under low load, and in the last two days we have just driven 1850 km with a heavy load + a 750 kg trailer. That means the total road weight of the 3 T6 is 9,2 l/100 km, and I already find that high (especially when prices range from 1,58 euros in supermarkets to 2,10 euros on the highway...: belay:

[General failure]

The main thing is not to be lazy and change gears more often.

...Lol, I remember the joke about the Jew and why Russian tea is so delicious. The answer is: don't skimp on the tea leaves.

The same goes for gears. I have a diesel Pajero Sport with a manual transmission, and if I'm not too lazy and give it a little extra tweak to get the engine running at its peak performance, my fuel consumption in the city is the same as on the highway.

There is no point in revving the engine above 3 rpm - the car runs confidently at low revs

Yes, that's right. It's enough to rev the engine high enough for the turbo to engage—1700-1800 rpm is enough. And generally, a diesel engine's peak efficiency and torque are around 2000 rpm.

[olboop]

It's high time to equip the UAZ with a diesel engine. Something always got in the way of our auto industry dancers.

[isv000]

Quote: olbop

It's high time to equip the UAZ with a diesel engine. Something always got in the way of our auto industry dancers.

There have been loaves of bread with diesel for a long time...

[sgrabik]

In the army, concern for the environment takes a back seat; the most important things there are reliability, ease of maintenance, and maintainability. There's no need to burden our army with unnecessary problems; all these environmental requirements are included in that list.

[RR_Vernadsky]

reliability, simplicity and maintainability

It is reasonable!

[isv000]

In the armed forces, the majority of military vehicles are also equipped with diesel engines, but all of them have the Euro-0 emission class and do not impose high requirements on fuel quality, and many are multi-fuel.

Whoever suggested Euro-5 for the troops should be kicked in the ass, their souls ripped out, and their confiscations confiscated. With our diesel fuel, these engines will smoke and stall the first time they fill up from a tanker truck. A clear example of sabotage!

[Nitten]

A very poorly designed internal combustion engine. The fuel system is a Delphi, with piezo injectors and a fuel injection pump with a tail pump. Overall, it's the worst choice. The engine is a carbon copy of the powerplant found in the Porter 2 and Kia Bongo 2. The system is extremely finicky. It's strange why, given the opportunity to choose the best humankind has ever invented, they opt for the worst... There are Bosch and Denso, but they chose a Delphi, and a 15-year-old piece of junk, at that. 11.6 liters—that's how much a Toyota Land Cruiser 100 with a 4.2 diesel engine has.