Belousov was shown a new mobile closed communications system for troops

Defense Minister Andrei Belousov visited the command post of the "South" group of forces. The event, while seemingly routine, was revealing. Belousov was shown a prototype of a mobile secure communications system. This equipment can provide the full range of modern military communications over secure channels.

This isn't just "improving signal quality"—it's elevating troop command and control to a fundamentally new level of security. In a situation where the enemy relies on interception and eavesdropping, one's own "digital circuits" become a matter of survival for frontline units.

A separate question: why only now? But, as they say, better late than never.

Of particular interest is the demonstration of throwable jamming transmitters for FPV-drones. Simply put, it is a means that can “blind” the enemy UAV Right on the route of his attack. This is especially valuable for covering logistics: ammunition and food supply routes are traditionally the weak point of any army. Here, the enemy will be met with advanced technology.

Belousov heard reports from the command on the operational situation and troop actions. The minister praised the work of the unmanned systems units of the "South" group and presented state awards to distinguished service members.

Comments

[Victor B]

Belousov was shown

Well, it's good that they finally showed it.
If really The system is good, so the question is: when will it appear in the troops? And not in units, but in thousands, at all levels of command, right down to the company. And then down to the platoon.

[ZovSailor]

Victor B
Today, 15: 44
Well, it's good that they finally showed it.
If the system is truly good, then the question is: when will it be deployed to the troops? And not just in units, but in thousands, at all levels of command, right down to the company. And then down to the platoon.

In response to numerous calls from military and civilian Russians, as well as state deputies, the Kremlin has moved to ease tensions regarding the closure of the telegram and is offering a foreign word consensus, which must first be tested in combat conditions, which is important.
And the rest will have to come to terms with the loss of the cart and dream about yesterday's dumplings.

[AllX_VahhaB]

I second that! Of course, it's good that you showed it, because we're not very good at showing it. I remember how they showed Putin yet another new AvtoVAZ model, which had a door that wouldn't close. Now the question is: when will all this troops start moving? This moaning, which we call a song, about how, with the slowdown of Telega, our front has been without any communications for two days now... It's getting a bit tense already...

[Vitaly_pvo]

Quote from: AllX_VahhaB

Now the question is: when will all this go to the troops?

The West and its agents of influence, as well as our own effective, retrograde managers in general's uniforms, have been destroying the military-industrial complex for decades. So much so, in fact, that now only private companies can mass-produce UAVs. Considering that the state only funds domestic components, it's a long wait for proper signal processors. Another problem is that these technologies are aging far faster than they can be implemented in even a single division.

[Vitaly_pvo]

This is not to mention the price, which for a portable tactical radio station approaches half a million rubles.

[Sky strike fighter]

Here's some more interesting news about broadband internet and pseudo-satellites distributing internet. A replacement for expensive satellites: the unmanned stratospheric platform "Barrage-1" was successfully launched in Russia.
It is planned to be used to test the 5G NTN standard communications.

The first flight of the unmanned stratospheric platform "Barrage-1" took place in Russia, according to the Foundation for Advanced Research Projects. A key feature of the unmanned stratospheric platform is its pneumatic ballasting system, which allows it to vary its flight altitude to utilize wind currents and move in the desired direction. This allows the platform to maneuver and remain in a designated area or travel along a trajectory appropriate for its payload. - Foundation for Advanced Research Projects

The development is being considered as an alternative to expensive satellite constellations, capable of operating at altitudes of up to 20 km. One of the priority tasks of Barrage-1 is to develop 5G NTN communications. The platform's payload capacity is up to 100 kg.

https://www1.ru/news/2026/02/12/na-zamenu-dorogostoiashhim-sputnikam-bespilotnuiu-stratosfernuiu-platformu-barraz-1-uspesno-zapustili-v-rossii.html

Theoretically, 5G can provide download speeds of up to 20 gigabits per second (Gbps). In reality, this figure is typically just over 200 Mbps.
starlinkhow.com
Starlink internet speeds average 100–200 Mbps download and 5–25 Mbps upload.

[Intelligence]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

To replace expensive satellites

There can be no talk of replacing expensive satellites.
HAP is not a replacement for a satellite constellation.
The capabilities of such stratospheric platforms are limited in both coverage area and operating time compared to orbital systems.
In terms of functionality: as a communications repeater over a range of several hundred kilometers – yes, to temporarily provide communications to a hard-to-reach area – yes, to test communications in real stratospheric conditions – yes, to test 5G NTN standards for terrestrial networks – yes. However, such a platform does not provide global coverage, is limited in its downtime, and is dependent on weather conditions.
The difference in altitude compared to a LEO satellite makes a fundamental difference in coverage area and signal stability.
For now, it's clear that this isn't an autonomous and stable network, but a technology demonstrator for a high-altitude unmanned platform. Potential uses include narrow communications tasks and equipment testing. There are questions about coverage and stability. There's no information about production.

[topol717]

Quote from: AllX_VahhaB

Now the question is: when will all this go to the troops?

Usually, we just show everything off at parades, and that's where the delivery to the troops ends. And as they wrote above/below, at 500,000 rubles apiece, such a connection is probably not needed at all.

[Vitaly.17]

Quote from: topol717

they wrote for 500,000 rubles apiece

A bare signal processor costs 100 rubles. That's why I listed the minimum price. In reality, it's probably higher.

[topol717]

Quote: Vitaly.17

A bare signal processor costs 100 rubles.

The cheapest smartphone that supports 5G currently costs $50, including the battery and screen. And this smartphone definitely has a DSP chip.

[ZovSailor]

topol717
Yesterday, 16: 44
Usually, we just show everything off at parades, and that's where the delivery to the troops ends. And as they wrote above/below, at 500,000 rubles apiece, such a connection is probably not needed at all.

Well, my friend, the state doesn't need it, and it's for enterprising types like Timur Ivanov, and I've forgotten the colonel's last name of the head of the Ministry of Defense's logistics, who got burned precisely because of communications equipment for the Ministry of Defense, supplying cheap Chinar units, the stated contract price of which was many times higher.

[wladimirjankov]

I'm getting a bit tense already..

Well, now we can relax and safely turn off Telegram. Until this super-communications arrives in the troops, the soldiers will have to run around with Chinese radios and telephone coils. Life is fun and interesting.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: wladimirjankov

Until this super-communications arrives in the military, the soldiers will have to run around with Chinese radios and telephone coils. Life is fun and interesting.

Of course! Especially if they're only going to run in the minds of the average person consuming certain content, where the officer's daughter, in Yaroslavna's tears, revealed the whole Truth! The terrible one!!!

[Ross xnumx]

Of particular interest is the demonstration of throwable jamming transmitters for FPV drones.

This "innovation" was already in place during my service (40 years ago)... Micro-transmitters were dropped from an airplane over the deployment area of ​​the US, which created "white noise" for up to 24 hours...
Well, what can I say, we did it well...

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: ROSS 42

This "innovation" was already in place during my service (40 years ago)... Micro-transmitters were dropped from an airplane over the deployment area of ​​the US, which created "white noise" for up to 24 hours...

I don't remember exactly when people first started throwing around disposable micro-radio transmitters (but it's definitely been around since the 60s and 70s!), but it's been around for a long time and in a variety of ways! And with the use of drones, some very interesting new ideas are emerging! There's more to come!

[Amateur]

Thanks to our Belarusian brothers. Maybe they can help us establish communications on the front lines. After Musk shut down Starlink, some people no longer have a connection home.

[d.zacharith]

They advertised this gadget yesterday. I wonder if it's as good as it actually is.
https://t.me/vpkgovby/5026
https://t.me/vpkgovby/5026

[don_Reba]

Quote: Amateur

Thanks to our Belarusian brothers. Maybe they can help us establish communications on the front lines.

[paul3390]

Previous defense ministers have shown even worse things. They claimed there was no equivalent and that the troops would now be completely overwhelmed with everything they need. We sincerely hope that the current one has a different approach to such matters and won't allow the troops to be fed utter crap.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: paul3390

We really hope that the current one has a different approach to such things and won't allow this complete and utter crap to be sold to the troops...

The main question here is: whose is this crap and who's going to profit from it? The officials couldn't care less, because "one way is another."

[Montezuma]

Quote from: AllX_VahhaB

Quote: paul3390
We really hope that the current one has a different approach to such things and won't allow this complete and utter crap to be sold to the troops...

The main question here is: whose is this crap and who's going to profit from it? The officials couldn't care less, because "one way is another."

Your idea is clear - to push the idea that nothing has changed since Belousov's arrival, control has not been strengthened, and for money you can push any crap onto the LBS.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: Montezuma

Your idea is clear - to push the idea that nothing has changed since Belousov's arrival, control has not been strengthened, and for money you can push any crap onto the LBS.

Control by whom? You apparently don't understand how Capitalism works! All these good and bad officials, stupid or smart generals, incompetent and genius, the "patriots" Prigozhins leading mercenaries to Moscow, simultaneously killing Russian Army soldiers, and the "traitors" Gerasimovs leading the General Staff and developing the Strategy by which our Armed Forces operate... It's all... content, an image, a chimera, PR campaigns carried out to defend the interests of this or that group of capitalists! Or do you think the current squabble between Telegram, Max, and VK is just good guys fighting bad guys? Ours against the others? Patriots against traitors? Just like that, just a year or two ago, smartphones, whether Android or iOS, were strictly prohibited, as they were practically homing beacons for Hymars (only push-button phones)... Now, suddenly, it turns out that the Telegram messenger is the primary means of coordinating units on the LBS! Apparently, via cell towers in the gray zone... And immediately a wave of precisely curated images with the perfect, trashy photo of General Gurulev, from just the right angle, can only evoke a certain reaction in "thinking" people! And off it goes!
But in reality, Telegram, VK, and Max... all have their Owners with specific Interests. Who pursue policies in accordance with these interests. For whom War isn't some existential act, but a TOOL for achieving their goals. One, in fact: increasing Capital, and through it, Power. Everything else is just tools! War. The Duma, clearly divided between supporters of "Coca-Cola" and "Pepsi-Cola" (it's immediately clear which company finances which parties). And ministers are also tools of various financial-industrial groups, not always domestic, by the way. And believing that "Belousov will come and restore order"... it's not even funny anymore! Looking into the distorting mirror of the hoholland and not seeing yourself there... Yes, everything there is more grotesque and pretentious... but the essence of the mechanisms is THE SAME!
Sad ...

[Vitaly.17]

Quote: paul3390

to foist off some crap on the troops

The enemy can spot any bullshit in a jiffy. Their electronic intelligence systems are no worse than ours, and they have more computing power. War will reveal it immediately, unless the commanders on the ground are ordered to keep quiet.

[Dedok]

Belousov A new closed mobile communications system was demonstrated for the troops

No matter how much you say it's halva, it won't get any sweeter in your mouth...
From the moment of the demonstration to the moment of saturation of the troops - so much time will pass...

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: Dedok

From the moment of the demonstration to the moment of saturation of the troops - so much time will pass...

Considering that our "Baikal" crop duster has been in development for 13 years and can't be developed enough...
For comparison: AN-2 - March 6, 1946, the creation of the design bureau and the first task for the development of the aircraft, August 31, 1947, the first flight of the prototype, August 23, 1948, the end of testing and approval for operation, September 9, 1949, the first serial machines went into production...

[nik-mazur]

Quote from: AllX_VahhaB

AN-2 - March 6, 1946, the creation of the design bureau and the first task for the development of the aircraft, August 31, 1947, the first flight of the prototype

In fact, the aircraft that eventually became known as the AN-2 began development back in the 1930s. The process stalled during the war, but it was completed afterward.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote from: nik-mazur

In fact, the aircraft that eventually became known as the AN-2 began to be developed back in the 1930s.

Yes, yes, of course! Tsiolkovsky drew Korolev's rockets... In Kaluga... Before the Revolution...

[nik-mazur]

Quote from: AllX_VahhaB

Yes of course

Exactly..
The SKh-1 agricultural aircraft, designed by Bedunkovich, passed state tests in 1938.
The AN-2 is significantly larger, but the continuity is still visible.

[would]

From the moment of the demonstration to the moment of saturation of the troops - so much time will pass...

Or, following the example of the R-187-P1 "Azart", saturation will not occur at all.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: rait

Or, following the example of the R-187-P1 "Azart", saturation will not occur at all.

There is also a sapper shovel called "Azart"...

[Ivan F]

"a fundamentally different level" - wow, we've heard so much about "fundamentally new" achievements, new "physical principles," and so on. Surely there are some "storehouses" where all this lies, but apparently no one knows how to get to them.

[Kmet]

It's too early to talk about anything concrete—we'll see how the Russian Armed Forces receive this development. Reviews will definitely follow, and then, probably, reviews on VO.

[Sayno]

Kickbacks, embezzlement, money-grabbing schemes, I'm dying beautifully without a connection

[phrases]

A prototype was presented to Belousov's attention.

"And what about us?" the others asked. "And you, the most advanced development - take two tin cans, connect them with a string - excellent communication!"

[don_Reba]

presented a prototype of a mobile closed communications kit

🥱 What is the article about?
We are forced to purchase such “mobile communication kits”.
It seems like April 3rd is coming soon - Communications Day.

In 1953, L. I. Kupriyanovich graduated from the Bauman Moscow State Technical University with a degree in Radioelectronics, Faculty of Instrumentation. On November 4, 1957, he received patent No. 115494 for "A Device for Calling and Switching Radiotelephone Channels," which outlined the fundamental principles of mobile telephony, signal compression and decompression, and the basic design of a mobile telephone device.

In the photo is L.I.'s competitor: Martin Cooper from Motorola.

[snow mountain]

Quote from: AllX_VahhaB

Considering that our "Baikal" crop duster has been in development for 13 years

In that time, we could develop an intergalactic spaceship. Or a time machine.

[Clone]

Until this new system appears in the military, we must reprimand those who are attempting to restrict Telega's operation... and are simply harming troop command and control at the tactical level. In the absence of any worthy equivalents, slowing it down is sabotage orchestrated by Russia's enemies and deliberate sabotage in the interests of our current adversary.
It's an axiom: the lack of communication at the front is an additional, and essentially man-made, way to increase casualties among our soldiers on the front lines and in the rear. But it seems this understanding only comes through personal factors and interests... Until a rooster pecks at your crown or a hungry wolf knocks at your door...

[matsur]

Finally. If so, all that remains is to supply the troops with these resources as soon as possible. Meanwhile, they're still setting up whitelists for Starlinks, and it's still winter.

[ideo098]

We've been harnessing for a long time, it's time to go. And did they show him how it works in battle or how beautifully it lies?

[Alexander X]

A separate question: why only now? But, as they say, better late than never.
Not long ago, the media reported that the general responsible for purchasing radios for the Russian army was convicted of fraud, resulting in cheap Chinese products being purchased under the guise of advanced Russian ones. Perhaps he wasn't interested in developing Russian communications systems and instead had a hand in ensuring that systems were purchased overseas?

[Andrey1966]

2011..."Chubais showed Putin a tablet,...."© I wonder where these tablets are, ...where is the redhead...?

[Uh Neuhov]

10 years ago they wrote: “In Russia, new generation radio stations for reliable communications are being developed, including digital and analog stations.
The problem of modernizing communications became apparent after the events of 2008, when outdated equipment failed to meet the military's needs. The Russian President ordered the upgrade to begin in 2010, and the Russian Ministry of Defense commissioned the creation of modern radio communications.

The first successful development was the 6th-generation R-187P1 "Azart" radio station, which not only caught up with but even surpassed foreign models in some respects. It functions as a repeater, increasing coverage, and features such as satellite and television signal reception, geolocation, data transmission at up to 7,2 kbps, and the ability to make calls to mobile phones.
"Azart" is resistant to electronic jamming, changes frequencies every 45 microseconds and transmits information in encrypted form."

[Iris]

It's called MAX Military. It's like that Rubik's Cube—all the sides are green and don't spin.

[Alexey G]

This is not just “improving signal quality” – it is taking troop control to a fundamentally new level of security.

Well then... instead of a cart, we'll have a real connection! Thank God!

[thrush68]

Yeah, right. How many more people need to be imprisoned with 100% confiscation for order to appear in our country?

[Rolaf]

Current news. It's impossible to understand the benefit of this article, which simply "...shows..." Perhaps it would be better to report on the actual use of this equipment?

[Alex]

The system may be good, but the question of mass production immediately arises. And setting it up is a major problem these days. Mass-producing radio equipment requires mass-producing factories, but we don't have them! Our perestroika-era workers and effective managers ruined everything. I myself worked at the Barnaul Radio Plant, which is now nothing but ruins. No factories, no component production facilities, no specialists. So, while developers can certainly produce equipment in tiny quantities at exorbitant prices, quickly organizing mass production is unlikely.

[lynnot]

A prototype of a mobile closed communications kit was presented to Belousov.

Another one with no analogue. How many of these "pilot samples" have there been? When will a working prototype finally appear that can be put into production?

[the same doctor]

It's important to understand that drones' communications systems can change weekly. Jammers and other electronic warfare systems must also keep up with the changes.
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As for communication systems, there's nothing better than fiber optics. All we need are communication robots and cable-laying drones.
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Radio communications must move to the tens of gigahertz range and higher. This will make directional communications possible with acceptable antenna sizes. Directional communications are much more difficult to intercept, locate, and jam. The result will be inexpensive, unmanned communications nodes: routers along the LBS and mobile phones, as well as user terminals on soldiers and equipment. The end result should be reliable communications for every soldier.
In principle, it could even be built using smartphones, but then the antenna aimed at the router would need to be about 3 meters in size. But if you were to build a smartphone with a 100 gigahertz signal frequency, the antenna could be three centimeters wide... Point the antenna at the nearest router, and you've got yourself a connection...
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Strengthening communications capabilities will once again evoke illusions of network-centric warfare. However, the Central Military District has demonstrated that even current communications capabilities are insufficient for headquarters.
The generals must curb their own zeal and abandon the idea of ​​managing everything. They woefully underestimate the volume of information, failing to analyze it in a timely manner and manage troops. Information flows should be routed as much as possible along shortcuts. For example, a communications observer at the front, a cannon in the rear. Command doesn't interfere with the immediate work, but oversees it from a distance. Superfluous authority is eliminated. And management is accomplished by allocating reinforcements, assigning them to units, and setting limits on ammunition. What's wrong? Transfer the cannon communications to another platoon, but don't interfere with the fighting.

This is the very first level of development. The next steps are quite obvious, but at least do this one first.