The Ukrainian Armed Forces are creating a new branch of the air defense forces to protect critical infrastructure.

Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, Syrsky, reported that Ukraine's air defense system is operating "under extremely challenging conditions"—and this is perhaps the most accurate description of what has been happening in recent months. But that's not the main point. The main point is that the recognition of problems was followed by an organizational decision: the Ukrainian Armed Forces are creating a new branch of the armed forces, which will be responsible specifically for protecting important facilities.

In other words, existing anti-aircraft missile The troops are no longer up to the task. Or they are, but with such efficiency that an additional structure had to be urgently devised.

Syrsky cited the figures himself: efficiency Defense remains at a level of around 74%. That is, according to Ukrainian data, a quarter of all missiles and drones, including Geranium and Kinzhal missiles, still reach their targets. For some targets, the success rate is as high as 30%.

The new branch of the armed forces is intended to relieve the burden on traditional air defense by taking over "coverage of important facilities." This sounds logical, unless you consider that in any normal army in the world, this is the direct function of air defense forces. But the Ukrainian General Staff has taken a different approach: if the old system fails, it's easier to build a new one than to repair it. Although, judging by the situation on the ground, neither will be fully operational by the end of the year.

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[Junior Private]

You can create any kind of military force, as long as you have something to fire back with. The effectiveness of Kakel's air defenses is highly questionable. Anti-missiles aren't cheap, and 200 geraniums can't be shot down. And there are no special countermeasures against precision missiles.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Junior Private

You can create any kind of military force, as long as you have something to fire back with. The effectiveness of Kakel's air defenses is highly questionable. Anti-missiles aren't cheap, and 200 geraniums can't be shot down. And there are no special countermeasures against precision missiles.

In fact, the Kakels have excellent air defense against geraniums.
They approached this issue very well.

Three years ago, all cell phone towers, all tall chimneys, all TV and radio towers, and other high-rise objects were fully equipped with special sound sensors.
The overall system is called ZVOOK NW0.
The detection and tracking zone of the flight path, selection of the target type by a specific sound is 5-7 km in radius (10-15 km in diameter).
The network is unified. Centrally managed. Network-centric.
From a single real-time alert system.
Therefore, the Ukrainian air defense actually knows what is flying, how long it is flying, how fast it is flying, its flight routes, and the expected impact sites.
And all kinds of mobile groups are deployed to reference points in advance.
Their mobile groups are very diverse and numerous. They may even number over a couple thousand.
From pickup-mounted tachanas with twin Maxim missiles and mandatory thermal imagers, to FrankenSAM systems with ASRAAM and R-73 guided missiles, with the same thermal imagers, and special vehicles with thermal imagers, laser designators, and AGR-20 APKWS missiles.
There are really a lot of them.
They really do knock down a lot of our geraniums.
According to independent estimates, the percentage of Geraniums shot down now amounts to 35 to 47% of the total number of UAVs produced.
Just think about how many targets are reported hit daily? About 5-10.
Video of landings - 2-3-5 strikes.
We launch 600-700 Geraniums every night.
If all 600 geraniums released overnight had reached their targets, we would have bombed all of Ukraine back to the Stone Age within a week. It would have been a planet of iron.
But this is not.
They knock down at least half of them.
And they will shoot down even more, because they are increasingly forming their own maneuverable "air defense tachankas"...

And we have ?
Wait three years again?
Well, at least install a sound air control system...
For understanding.

[Roman Efremov]

Don't make things up, we don't launch 600 Geraniums every night, if that happened, then these are the rarest of mass strikes.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Roman Efremov

Don't make things up, we don't launch 600 Geraniums every night, if that happened, then these are the rarest of mass strikes.

There were at least 5 such massive strikes in my memory.
Mostly 200-300.

[Roman Efremov]

In 4 years 5 - I'm saying RAREST.

[kulemin0025gmail.com]

Where does your memory get this data from? Does the Russian Ministry of Defense report to you? 😏

[nik-mazur]

Quote: SovAr238A

Three years ago, I fully equipped all cell phone towers, all tall chimneys, all TV and radio towers, and other high-rise structures with special sound sensors. The overall system is called ZVOOK NW0.

This system has only one drawback: it only works based on the words of those who posted it.

Quote: SovAr238A

And all kinds of mobile groups are deployed to reference points in advance.
Their mobile groups are very diverse and there are a lot of them.

And the efficiency of these groups is 0,25 Geraniums per year:

Mobile fire teams of the National Guard of Ukraine and the State Border Service of Ukraine... 800 such teams, which have shot down more than 200 drones since January 1, 2024

This is Ukrainian data, by the way.

Quote: SovAr238A

According to independent estimates, the percentage of Geraniums shot down now ranges from 35 to 47% of the total number of UAVs produced.

Even if this is true, it is a very bad result.

Quote: SovAr238A

We plant 600-700 Geraniums every night.

Just cut back on the sturgeon - even the Ukrainian propagandists wouldn't whistle about that amount of Geraniums.

[kulemin0025gmail.com]

Wow 🫣 They wrote such a load of crap (where did you get that info from?) to ultimately declare that the Ukrainians are doing great, but Russia is doing badly 😏

[rocket757]

The Ukrainian Armed Forces are creating a new branch of the armed forces that will be responsible for protecting important facilities.

It's unlikely that old ladies with jars of cucumbers will help them...
And so, they'll rake in everything that's left and... scrounge up the dough. New... is long-forgotten/not forgotten old, but how to scrounge up the dough, they've never forgotten.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: rocket757

And so, they'll rake in everything that's left and... scrounge up the dough. New... is long-forgotten/not forgotten old, but how to scrounge up the dough, they've never forgotten.

You, not living in the Outskirts, know all about it, about how they "seize the money" there, about the jars of cucumbers. But what about us? How about the "seizing of the money"? What about the air defense? How many of our oil refineries have already burned down? And how many strategic missiles have burned down? And yet they launch far fewer warheads at us than we do at them.
Are they more effective? Why? And how are we organizing air defense for critical facilities?
And why do "debris" from downed drones fall on our homes and buildings, causing damage? Questions, questions, questions.

[rocket757]

Hello again... have you ever heard me say that everything is fine with us and there are no problems?
Let's reason like this, objectively, based on the maxim... our adversary is a group of countries that... is large, economically strong, militarily strong and... should I go on and on, or is this statement incorrect, in your opinion?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: rocket757

Hello again... have you ever heard me say that everything is fine with us and there are no problems?

You see, it's not about you. It's just that on VO, almost all users have become addicted to writing about Okraina in a derogatory manner. I believe this is not only wrong, but even somewhat harmful. "Petya, how shameful, you got a C in geography!" "And Kolya got a D!" Covering up your C with your classmate's D is no joke.
Looking for negativity in your neighbor blinds you to your own negativity.
I'm pleased with the changes in UAV production and use, but I'm deeply concerned about the lack of systems similar to the Starlink on our front lines. Where are our A-50s and A-100s? I don't believe this problem can't be solved in such a long time.
Most likely, no one is seriously working on this. And there are plenty of other things they aren't working on. It's a shame. I'd say more, but what's the point of beating around the bush?

[rocket757]

To call what happened to the neighbors normal... no, no, I can't bring myself to...
To say that everything is fine with us... is also not...
Even though we say that our state has no ideology, this is all... very relative.
CAPITALISTS always have an ideology; in one form or another, it is promoted in all spheres of people's lives...
The goals are still the same, DIVIDE AND CONQUER. It's not that there are more methods, they've just changed, but the essence is the same...

[kulemin0025gmail.com]

Looks like you're a kakras and live on the outskirts 😁

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Maybe we should create a new country? The old one is functioning "in the most difficult conditions." And no one needs this country anyway. Not even its citizens.

[th.kuzmichev]

I hope we can create such a branch of the military sooner. The oil refinery in Ukhta was set on fire today.

[knn54]

Interesting question. Within a single facility, these could include machine gun- and cannon-equipped jeeps, crews with anti-drone rifles, anti-drone nets, electronic warfare. For detection, acoustic sensors, thermal imagers, and cameras would be suitable. ALL with the use of AI. Air defense systems like the Soviet Osa... Camouflage is also a must.
There are not enough patriots for everyone.

[Victor Masyuk]

They're mobilizing old women there, armed with jars of pickles. New structure, new personnel, new weapons. IMBA!

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Victor Masyuk

They're mobilizing old women there, armed with jars of pickles. New structure, new personnel, new weapons. IMBA!

How are we going to protect our oil refineries? Do you have any suggestions? Or will we just use babushka and cucumbers?

Fun, huh?

[Victor Masyuk]

They're working on protecting our oil refineries. But to discuss this topic competently, you need the appropriate clearance. What kind do you have? And who provided you with such detailed information on Ukraine's "air defense against Geraniums"?

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Victor Masyuk

They're working on protecting our oil refineries. But to discuss this topic competently, you need the appropriate clearance. What kind do you have? And who provided you with such detailed information on Ukraine's "air defense against Geraniums"?

If you think that buns are born in bakeries, then I have bad news for you.
You are simply unable to learn how to search for information.

There are 3 very large oil refineries in my area.
The dacha is located in a park, kilometers away from one of them.
Raids, approximately 1-2 times a month.
If you think I don't know how they explode, believe me, I do.
And I also know how they explode in the air when air defense systems are in operation.
Observed.

[kulemin0025gmail.com]

Have you ever had thoughts of suicide? 😏

[Was mammoth]

Russia already has such a branch of the military. True, it consists of just one person. Solovyov thanks Moscow Mayor Sobyanin on almost every broadcast for "creating" a reliable air defense system around the city. I wish he could be appointed mayor of Belgorod! Or cloned for the entire Russian Federation.

[kulemin0025gmail.com]

Well, you have Klitschko. For him, it's simple: either get ready for the ground or leave Kyiv 😊

[Was mammoth]

At , whom ,"at you"?
I have relatives from Belgorod. And, uh, YouDidn't you realize that Solovyov is thanking Sobyanin for saying that the Air Defense Commander-in-Chief, the Minister of Defense, and the President of the country should be held accountable, not the mayor of a single city, however wealthy? My fault.