We Can When We Need to: Mega-Sciences of Modern Russia

Tokamak T-15MD

Gunpowder in flasks

The more radical analysts and commentators think, the less credible they are. They've been particularly fond of tackling domestic education and science lately. We'll discuss general, secondary, and higher education another time, but science deserves a closer look here and now. Especially since Russian Science Day just flew by so recently.

To begin with, all skeptics should be reminded of our legend: Yuri Tsolakovich Oganessian. The academician is famous worldwide for the chemical element named after him. It's oganesson, and it was artificially created at the Joint Institute for Nuclear Research in Dubna. Yuri Oganessian, incidentally, heads the Flerov Laboratory of Nuclear Reactions there. What's unique about this event is that Oganessian is the second in stories A person who had a chemical element named after him during his lifetime. The first was Glenn Seaborg with his seaborgium in 1997.

Many are currently suffering from the lack of Nobel Prizes for Russian scientists. It should be noted that this suffering is completely in vain – the prize has long since become a completely politicized award. True excellence and worldwide recognition comes when a chemical element in D. I. Mendeleev's periodic table is named after a researcher. Yuri Oganessian achieved this in 2016, causing a genuine global sensation. Incidentally, the scientist was directly involved in the discovery of heavy elements in the 90s, including seaborgium.

Yuri Tsolakovich Oganesyan

Achievements in nuclear physics are based entirely on the Soviet legacy. The science city of Dubna became a world-class research center back in 1943, when the USSR decided to develop its own atomic bomb. And since then, this small town near Moscow, with a population of just 74,000, has maintained its scientific importance. In one way or another, all Russian science, both applied and fundamental, originates in the Soviet Union. Of course, the collapse of the country inevitably affected scientific life. Before 1991, nearly 2 million scientists and designers worked in research institutes and design bureaus, while today there are just over 660,000. More than 300 research institutes were disbanded, and their employees were forced to seek new employment. In the vast majority of cases, these were not related to intellectual activity. But fortunately, the Soviet legacy was not completely destroyed.

A marker of any nation's development is its level of fundamental science. If you have mega-science, then you're at the top of the world. If not, then you're a secondary player. It's like membership in a club of nuclear powers, only far less expensive. You may not have an atomic bomb, but every self-respecting national leader is obliged to master fundamental science. Meanwhile, big science offers no practical answer here and now. It can lead to a complete dead end. In the best-case scenario, practical results will emerge in 10-15 years, or even longer. But Pyotr Kapitsa once reminded and taught: fundamental science lays the foundation for innovative breakthroughs, without which the economy weakens.

Russian Megasciences

In global scientific jargon, there's a term called "megascience." It refers to large, high-tech scientific installations, often unique in the world, designed for breakthrough research in physics, materials science, biology, medicine, and other fields.

If you ask the average Russian with a university degree what they consider Russia's calling card on the global scientific stage, they'll remember a few things: nuclear energy, the military-industrial complex, and, of course, Russian space exploration. The latter is a major problem—it's becoming increasingly less Russian.

Some particularly educated people might recall the world's first COVID-19 vaccine, Sputnik-V, and that's it. That's where the average Russian's knowledge of domestic science ends. And that's a shame. Currently, at least a dozen domestic mega-science projects or mega-projects are in various stages of "combat readiness," which not all countries in the "golden billion" can even replicate.

NICA Project

So, let's get started. NICA (Nuclotron-based Ion Collider Facility) is the "little brother" of the Large Hadron Collider, currently under construction in Dubna, but with a completely different purpose. While the LHC searches for new particles at ultra-high energies, NICA targets extreme matter densities. By colliding gold ions, scientists will recreate in miniature the conditions that existed in the Universe in the first microseconds after the Big Bang. Beyond the fundamental mysteries of space, the project also has applications on Earth. The unique ion beams at NICA allow for radiation resistance testing of spacecraft electronics and research into cancer radiation therapy. Essentially, it's a giant microscope and laboratory combined, where researchers study not only the structure of matter inside neutron stars but also how to protect humans on deep space missions.

Next in line is PIK, a pressurized-moderated neutron reactor. It is one of the world's most powerful high-flux research reactors, located in Gatchina at the St. Petersburg Nuclear Physics Institute (PNPI). Unlike a nuclear power plant, PIK does not generate electricity. Its primary purpose is to generate neutron radiation of colossal intensity. Scientists use these neutrons as an ideal "probe" or "X-ray," allowing them to peer into the structure of matter at the atomic level without damaging it. This makes the reactor a unique mega-installation for studying the fundamental principles of matter. The PIK reactor's capabilities span the most advanced fields of science: from the creation of new drugs and the study of proteins to the development of superconductors and materials for fusion energy. The reactor is expected to be fully operational by 2033.

The SKIF project near Novosibirsk

The Siberian Ring Photon Source, or SKIF, is the world's most advanced 4+ generation synchrotron radiation source, under construction near Novosibirsk (in the Koltsovo science city). Unlike colliders, which collide particles, SKIF operates like a "super-flashlight": electrons accelerated almost to the speed of light generate incredibly bright and narrow beams of X-rays. This radiation is billions of times brighter than sunlight, allowing us to examine the structure of any substance down to the individual atom and film ultrafast chemical reactions. SKIF's practical benefits are enormous for medicine, chemistry, and materials science. Using this facility, scientists will be able to observe in real time how a virus penetrates a cell (critical for vaccine development), how new catalysts work, and how aircraft engine components perform under extreme loads. The launch of the main SKIF ring is promised for this year, and construction of the second stage will begin next year.

Unlike the facilities described above, KISI-Kurchatov was built long ago. It is currently Russia's first and only dedicated synchrotron radiation source, the "heart" of the Kurchatov Institute in Moscow. Its ring storage ring generates powerful photon beams across a broad spectrum (from terahertz to hard X-rays), transforming the facility into a universal mega-microscope for hundreds of research groups simultaneously. Here, physicists work side by side with archaeologists (x-raying artifacts without damaging them), biologists (deciphering protein structure), and materials scientists. It is on this foundation that technologies for creating new microchips are being developed and processes in living systems are being studied.

RIF or Russian Photon Source

Now on to the Far East. Plans are underway to build the RIF, or Russian Photon Source, on Russky Island. Construction is expected to begin in 2027. The facility will generate extremely bright X-rays, allowing for the study of the structure of matter at the nanoscale, making the region a magnet for scientists from the Asia-Pacific region. A key feature of the RIF will be its focus on exploring the resources of the world's oceans and creating new materials for extreme conditions. Scientists plan to use its capabilities for in-depth analysis of marine organisms and the creation of unique biopreparations, as well as for developing new alloys resistant to the harsh marine environment and low Arctic temperatures.

The SILA (Synchrotron-Laser) complex is scheduled for completion within the next six years. The active phase of construction of the scientific complex will begin this year in Zelenograd, near Moscow. A high-power synchrotron radiation source and an X-ray free-electron laser will be combined on a single site. This will be a fifth-generation facility, with no equivalent in the world in terms of performance. It will allow us not only to see the structure of matter, but also to control its states at the atomic level.

Finally, a couple of tokamaks. As a reminder, "tokamak" is one of the few Russian words accepted worldwide. An abbreviation for "toroidal chamber with magnetic coils," it has become a global standard and a symbol of hope for a bright future of limitless energy. The T-15MD tokamak from the Kurchatov Institute is a major upgrade of the T-15 model and serves as a testbed for developing methods of heating plasma to millions of degrees and confining it with a powerful magnetic field. Essentially, it's a high-tech rig where physicists are deciding which materials to use to build the actual thermonuclear power plants of the future, preventing them from melting down from the extreme temperatures.

Next year, construction of a new tokamak with reactor technology will begin in Troitsk. It will be the older brother of the T-15MD, but with significant differences. While the T-15MD is a research facility, the TRT is a fully-fledged prototype of a future fusion reactor. Its main goal is to demonstrate not just plasma heating, but long-term sustained fusion combustion in modes as close as possible to those of a real power plant. The key feature of the TRT is the use of superconducting magnets based on new materials and innovative cooling systems. This will allow the facility to operate in a quasi-steady-state mode (for very long periods), which is critical for generating energy on an industrial scale. Essentially, the TRT will serve as a "bridge" between experimental scientific instruments and commercial fusion reactors, where Russia plans to develop technologies for tritium production and protecting reactor walls from extreme loads.

In conclusion, it remains only to add that this list is far from complete, meaning it's far too early to bury fundamental science in our country. Quite the contrary, in fact—a renaissance is evident.

Comments

[Same lech]

One way or another, all Russian science, applied and fundamental, originates in the Soviet Union.

I didn’t know that Popov, Mendeleev and Lomonosov were born in the Soviet Union and developed science there.
The author should be more careful with political slogans in science.

[Foggy Dew]

And it's not worth it with anything more recent. Superfluidity technology, for example, has no roots in the USSR.

[Gardamir]

What about Pyotr Kapitsa, who discovered superfluid helium in 1938?

[Foggy Dew]

Not close. With helium, it's ultra-low temperature physics; with active metal powders, it's chemistry.

[andrewkor]

I must admit, I also thought about the "legacy of the damned tsarism", A.S. Pushkin, for example.😀!

[Explainer]

You were told that applied science—radio, of course, was invented by Popov—but radio stations in the Russian Empire were Telefunken, Marconi, and other foreign brands. And there's nothing to say about fundamental science in the Russian Empire...

[don_Reba]

Quote: Explainer

There's nothing to say about fundamental science in the Russian Empire.

🥱 Where do they synthesize you like this?
Mendeleev and co were mentioned above.
Then: Lobachevsky, Mechnikov, Lebedev, Stoletov, Chebyshev, Lyapunov, Markov...
What's wrong with Zhukovsky?
Well, if we're going to have fun, let's have fun: Pavlov (Nobel Prize 1904)
And what about Meshchersky, whose equation is called Tsiolkovsky's formula?
Even Prince Boris Golitsyn☝️
For obvious reasons, I will not mention Leonhard Euler, Emilius Lenz, Franz Aepinus and others like them.
But Sofia Kovalevskaya is even known for her cheat sheets for those who failed the Unified State Exam.

[Ryazan87]

And as for radio stations, the Russian Society of Wireless Telegraphs and Telephones (ROBTiT) would be quite surprised by its absence. As would the specialists of the Military Electrical Engineering School.

[Explainer]

The discoveries of individual scientists are not science.

[don_Reba]

Quote: Explainer

The discoveries of individual scientists are not science.

Let me remind you, let's say
Chebyshev Pafnuty Lvovich
(1821-1894): He made numerous fundamental discoveries in number theory (the distribution of prime numbers) and probability theory (the central limit theorem, the law of large numbers). He also developed a general theory of orthogonal polynomials, the theory of uniform approximations of functions, and many others. He transformed probability theory into a rigorous mathematical discipline.

[gridasov]

The task of distributing prime numbers is necessary for individualizing each value of a number as a separate element in large data arrays, and this is a dead end. Therefore, it is possible to simply construct a notation system from natural numbers such that these values ​​in a data array possess unique parameters. These qualities are inherent in the function of a constant value of a number. And most importantly, these properties of a number can be quite reasonably transformed into dimensions of electromagnetic parameters corresponding to the mathematical values ​​of numbers. This will allow the use of multipolar logic on natural numbers, rather than binary logic and encoding methods, which will, first of all, eliminate the dependence of one bit of information on one electromagnetic pulse.

[bondov]

They wrote to you - applied science - radio was, of course, invented by Popov - but the radio stations in the Russian Empire were Telefunken, Marconi and other foreign brands.

Popov's discovery is not unique. In the US, Tesla is considered the inventor of radio, in Europe, Marconi. It is claimed that they were the first, which is why Telefunken, Marconi, etc. appeared - they had a better technical base... Some independently discovered the possibility of radio transmission just a month after Popov, for example, there is a Lithuanian inventor of RAD, etc.

[Dock1272]

I wanted to write about that too. We, too, make fundamental discoveries, and yet, for some reason, those damned bourgeois abroad are the ones skimming off the profits from their use. Microwaves, cordless phones, cellular communications, stealth technology. Musk, for example, supposedly made full use of our rocketry developments and has now successfully almost ousted us from the satellite launch market... That's the first thing that comes to mind...

[il-z]

Dityatko works at a department within the Russian Academy of Sciences, and they were recently heatedly discussing an article claiming that the government allocated approximately 205 billion rubles for the needs of the Russian Academy of Sciences over a certain period, and approximately 10 billion rubles more for promoting posts on Telegram. If this is anywhere near the truth, it's a real shame. In that case, the gradual ban on Telegram could be explained by a multitude of theories...

[alexoff]

Last week, a colleague told me that the director of our institute moved to Okhotny Ryad and now owns an apartment there. And in 2021, according to his asset declarations, he already owned seven apartments. And they say scientists live poorly, but look how well academics live...

[balabol]

I'm always surprised when people contrast individual stages in the development of Russian science, attempting to dismember the inseparable process of knowledge. Whether we have "complaints" about this or that period or not, it's undeniable that without the initial foundation, subsequent progress would not have occurred. The Russian Empire, the USSR, and modern Russia are all parts of a single whole.

[Mustached Kok]

Well, think about it. I'm a physicist, I studied at the Physics Department of Moscow State University. And in our lectures and just in conversation with the professors, everyone appreciated and remembered the contributions and discoveries of our pioneering scientists from the Imperial era, from Lomonosov to Friedman. But objectively, the OVERWHELMING majority of world-class research and discoveries were produced during Soviet times. And not because of abstract ideological influence, but because of very specific economic, industrial, and political decisions. Much more funding for science and education, the construction of a huge number of large research complexes and institutes, a huge number of high-tech industries where new discoveries could be put into practice. Add to this the fact that even at the height of the Cold War, Soviet scientists always and frequently attended international scientific conferences and seminars and were always honored guests. At the same time, Western scientists, under similar circumstances, often came to the USSR for major meetings. The USSR and its Academy of Sciences have always been participants in many international scientific groups and associations.
In the public imagination, everyone remembers the image of Soviet physicists, remembered as the pride of the country. But the USSR also boasted the best schools of mathematics, some of the leaders in cancer and lung disease research, and some of the leaders in applied chemistry and biochemistry. The USSR boasted the best geological and mineralogical research. The USSR also boasted some of the leading fields in paleontology, astrophysics, and cosmology. Add to this an excellent engineering school. When Western countries experienced technological breakthroughs in the 70s, thanks to the advent and rapid development of computers and other digital technologies, it was the USSR's engineering school that made it possible to compensate for the lag in computing technology.

Yes, there were objectively some areas of science in which the USSR failed to excel or was only marginally successful. For example, the aforementioned research in computing and digital technologies. The gap was due to the fact that research in this field in the West flourished during World War II, as they needed to expend much more effort fighting the Third Reich's air force and submarine fleet. To improve radar and SANAR performance, in addition to improving the power of locators, they also developed analysis and processing algorithms. There were also numerous espionage battles that required cryptography. As a result, by the end of the war, they already had a good practical and theoretical foundation for development. And since the US hadn't suffered from the war (Great Britain did, but only slightly compared to us), and they still had many mathematicians, physicists, and engineers, they immediately began developing a new class of technology—computing and computers.
At the start of WWII, our level of radio and computer technology lagged slightly behind the West, but it wasn't yet critical. After WWII, however, a gap developed; to fight the Third Reich (and then Japan in 1945), we didn't need to rely so heavily on electronic computing equipment (we weren't fighting submarines or massive air raids with aircraft and missiles). And after the war ended, we had to prioritize rebuilding the European part of the country.
As a result, we were able to fully engage in work in the new field at a time when a 10-15 year gap with the West had already formed.
And so it remained almost the entire time. Although by the late 80s, with small batches of computing equipment (still insufficient quantities to have any impact on production and life across the country), the lag had been reduced to around 7-8 years. Energia-Buran, for example, was on par with the Space Shuttle in terms of computing and operational capabilities. (We like to recall that the Shuttle couldn't fly unmanned, while Buran could and did, but in reality, the SLS COULD fly unmanned. But NASA flight regulations at the time considered it safer to have at least a captain and flight engineer on board, so that, should an emergency arise, the crew could always correct any automation deficiencies or even conduct an unmanned test flight.) It's just that Buran's computer may have been a little larger and heavier than the shuttle's, but the scale and speed of calculations were basically on par.
So there you have it! We scientists, in our fields, remember and value the contributions of the pioneering scientists of imperial times. But objectively, the overwhelming majority of the development of our science as a global one took shape during Soviet times. And we scientists also remember that global progress is the result of scientists ALL over the world. And therefore, we champion the importance of maintaining global communication among all scientists on the planet. Any attempt throughout history to "preserve" science within a single country has only led to a decline in the level of research.

[snow mountain]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

I didn't know that Popov, Mendeleev, and Lomonosov were born in the Soviet Union and developed science there.

Under Stalin?

[man]

Quote: Schneeberg

Quote: The same LYOKHA

I didn't know that Popov, Mendeleev, and Lomonosov were born in the Soviet Union and developed science there.

Under Stalin?

Only Popov and Mendeleev, and Lomonosov worked in the neighboring laboratory of our institute under Chernenko

[Kotofeich]

Quote: Schneeberg

Under Stalin?

Yes, we worked in sharashkas.

[Foggy Dew]

And with nuclear power, it's not all that simple. VNIINM, for example, is developing not only nuclear-related products, but also quantum computing infrastructure, like superconductors. And in nuclear power, it's not just fuel rods but also nuclear batteries, and quite successfully, it's just not advertised as rabidly as the dysfunctional small modular reactors from the US. They're shouting about them from the rooftops, but there's not a word about how impossible it is to build them—they're unprofitable, and all the companies involved in them have long since gone bankrupt. So Pashinyan and Kushner will be building these newly sold reactors themselves, using the dendrofecal method.
While the same VNIINM is churning out breakthrough composites, I'm telling you, even our research institutes, initially focused on nuclear energy, have very diverse interests.

[KCA]

JINR has many applied programs, in addition to purely scientific ones. For example, research in the field of superconductivity has been conducted since the Soviet era, and not only research, but also the production of magnets, cancer treatment with proton beams, and much more, although JINR was created specifically for work in fundamental physics.

[your1970]

Quote: KCA

JINR has many applied programs, in addition to purely scientific ones. For example, research in the field of superconductivity has been conducted since the Soviet era, and not only research, but also the production of magnets, cancer treatment with proton beams, and much more, although JINR was created specifically for work in fundamental physics.

He worked at the Laboratory of Nuclear Reactions at JINR in the 1990s. Despite the collapse, the MC-400 and U-300 accelerators were being built—somehow Oganessian managed to secure funding for the construction.

[KCA]

My respects, I didn't work at JINR specifically, but I've been in Dubna since birth and I respect everyone involved in science, and, well, pss, to Raduga and DMZ, and Tensor

[your1970]

Quote: KCA

My respects, I didn't work at JINR specifically, but I've been in Dubna since birth and I respect everyone involved in science, and, well, pss, to Raduga and DMZ, and Tensor

I lived there for a short time, about 5 years, in Pontecorvo near the plague.

[KCA]

In a 14-story building? JINR had service apartments there.

[your1970]

Quote: KCA

In a 14-story building? JINR had service apartments there.

16-story building

[KCA]

14-story buildings, standard ones, three of them in Pontecorvo, formerly Kaliningradskaya. I attended the new School No. 6 from the fifth grade, before that, the old one. According to the old GOST standards, on our soil, the maximum height was 14 stories; now they're driving piles up to 20 stories.

[your1970]

Yes indeed 14 - I looked now. I forgot.

[Blanket]

In the late 90s, the news mentioned a "polymer battery" created on the Mir space station. They said it was possible to build a factory in space to produce these batteries (something about the vacuum of space). And that one such battery could produce 10 kilowatts of power over the course of a year.
What batteries were you talking about? I can't find the information right now.

[Foggy Dew]

It was just about tritium batteries that VNIINM recently won a state prize, maybe they too

[Amateur]

There have always been skilled people in Russia who can "shoe a flea." But organizing mass production of horseshoes has always been a challenge. As for setting up a profitable business selling this know-how and using the proceeds to improve citizens' well-being—well, that's a no-brainer.

[Foggy Dew]

Quote: Amateur

But to organize mass production of horseshoes

This isn't about progress, it's about a scam. Who the hell needs tons of flea shoes? Only Apple buyers and Panasonic battery-powered electric cars.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Amateur

There have always been skilled people in Russia who can "shoe a flea." But organizing mass production of horseshoes has always been a challenge. As for setting up a profitable business selling this know-how and using the proceeds to improve citizens' well-being—well, that's a no-brainer.

You took the words right out of my mouth. I remember how even in Soviet times they admired the "achievements" of fundamental science. And? Everything that surrounds us, with rare exceptions, was invented and put into production abroad. And I don't even want to talk about today. Even what was produced in the USSR is now imported from China and other countries. And I'm not talking about bananas and other pineapples. I'm talking about the simplest things, the production of which our "great managers" can't organize. Just don't talk about a labor shortage. Our ministers clearly lack brains.

[novel66]

Our ministers clearly lack brains.

And from this comes, accordingly

shortage of labor.

and availability

"great managers"

[Corvair]

There are also a number of biotechnology companies that have achieved tangible results, such as Biocad. There are also a number of instrumentation manufacturers whose products have received global recognition and are considered the best on the market.

[Corvair]

P.S.: But we have huge problems staying informed about what's happening in the country. We're literally bombarded with negative information from every corner of the world. We don't have to search for it; it's just a torrent, and escaping this information bubble is impossible. Only relevant experts know what's really going on; you have to dig for it bit by bit, and then you're left gasping and groaning. But we probably know more about foreign projects than the local population; literally every little detail is trumpeted from every corner as if it were some kind of triumph. I wonder why that is?

[drags33]

As long as we keep using the term "megascience" (God forgive me...), there will be no domestic science. Enough of this aping; we need to develop our own. Many still worship the West—where will Russian science come from? Science is undeniably international and there can't be a Russian Periodic Table. But we need to develop domestic research, not rely on "buying everything." This rotten ideology is imposed from above, hence the underfunding and decline of domestic science. I'll likely get a downvote for this opinion, which will only further confirm how we exalt everything Western... Meanwhile, China is promoting its own, and how it's promoting it!

[Edward Vashchenko]

I wonder why this is so?

Sorry for answering, maybe your question is rhetorical...but...
Because real achievements are visible even without “information”,
but when they are not there, then we have to talk about "megasciences"...
Our country is large, I can personally tell you about a number of wonderful enterprises... but they are isolated and do not in any way influence the general regression, the confusion and attempts to grasp at straws in production, the economy, finance, education, etc.

[your1970]

Quote: Eduard Vaschenko

Our country is large, I can personally tell you about a number of wonderful enterprises... but they are isolated and do not in any way influence the general regression, the confusion and attempts to grasp at straws in production, the economy, finance, education, etc.

And how did Big Space influence the fact that every year at Easter, several tractors in our area would be sunk – "We went for vodka, but there wasn't enough" (c)??? And even the Kirovites managed to completely drown them in our river, which is far bigger than...
But he had no influence at all - everyone was on him...

You may not have noticed - "Until 1991, the research institutes and design bureaus employed nearly 2 million scientists and designers, and now there are just over 660 thousand."
For the country in half lesser In terms of population and area, this is a good result considering the 1990s

[alexoff]

We still know the details of the British royal family's life very well. For some reason, we know nothing about what's going on in the Danish kingdom, but we're told about the English with bated breath.

[Disant]

I wonder why this is so?

because negative information excites the brain more, it can be sold easily and at a high price.
Even foreign positive things are sold as negative things, "but everything is bad here."

[Wildcat]

Many are currently suffering from the lack of Nobel Prizes for Russian scientists. It should be noted that this suffering is completely unfounded – the prize has long since become a completely politicized award. A true masterstroke...

It's truly a masterstroke to write articles like this without using the phrase "and they also lynch blacks."
The level of science in a country is judged by criteria such as the number of universities in the Top 100, the number of patents per country, and the Hirsch index.
But here everything is bad, much worse than with the Nobel laureates.

In that case, you can come up with your own criteria: what will happen by 2030 - and rejoice!

[Foggy Dew]

Complete bullshit, university rankings, like any other, are completely corrupt, while the Hirsch index is easily inflated, and even cheaper than awarding a Nobel Prize.
PSI: How are things going with the rankings of the universities whose Indian graduates are churning out all the software for the US? And how did the h-index contribute to the US's physical inability to replicate the MOX fuel technology, even with contractual access to all the technical documentation?
This makes everything clear with both ratings and h-values.

[Wildcat]

That's it, and I'm about the same!
All right!
What kind of Hirsch-Mirsch...

What's the secret to a cheburek's juiciness, huh? It's not just hand-cutting the filling, but also a little butter and cold water! And a little vodka and maybe some sparkling water for the dough...
Mmmmm...
“How do you like that, Elon Musk?”
Now that's mega-science, especially with beer...

[Paranoid62]

Quote: Wildcat

Mmmmm...

Stop with the funny stuff already, that's good advice.

[Wildcat]

But it's a day off!
Yes, everything is natural!

Well, here's to science and its mega-sciences!

How is it possible to finish...



P.S. I might change the topic to barbecue marinades...

[Paranoid62]

Quote: Wildcat

I can change the topic to marinades for barbecue...

Well, yeah, about time. The citation index thing didn't work out, so we need to compensate somehow.

[Wildcat]

Absolutely agree!
Hirsch-Mirsch...
It's better to look at the "plans up to 2030" index!

...and the best marinade for shashlik is the Soviet one, with vinegar—because Soviet is the foundation of modern science! No kefir, yogurt, or tomatoes in the marinade!!

[novel66]

And the best marinade for shashlik is the Soviet one, with vinegar.

I completely agree! Marinade implies acidity.

[Foggy Dew]

Please, give me an example—specifically, with MOX fuel. The technology involves microdosing of the reagent, in a hot zone, in acid vapor and a terribly corrosive solvent, and at high temperatures, to boot. The Americans couldn't implement this dosing because electronics don't work in such an environment. And that's it, even though ours clearly stated that the microdosing device is mechanical. But to make it, you need materials science institutes like that very VNIINM, which has a very low h-index because everything is classified, including even its common name. He personally signed a form with a separate clause stating "I undertake to disclose my place of work in the future" and the abbreviation for VNIINM.
But mattresses have Hirschs and Hirschs to salt, but there is no science

[123_123]

Quote: Foggy Dew

Please, give me an example—specifically, with MOX fuel. The technology involves microdosing of the reagent, in a hot zone, in acid vapor and a terribly corrosive solvent, and at high temperatures, to boot. The Americans couldn't implement this dosing because electronics don't work in such an environment. And that's it, even though ours clearly stated that the microdosing device is mechanical. But to make it, you need materials science institutes like that very VNIINM, which has a very low h-index because everything is classified, including even its common name. He personally signed a form with a separate clause stating "I undertake to disclose my place of work in the future" and the abbreviation for VNIINM.
But mattresses have Hirschs and Hirschs to salt, but there is no science

With all due respect to Russian science, it is strange to deny the fact that at the present time the United States (albeit unfortunately) is the world leader in science and a center of attraction for scientific personnel from all over the world.

[Foggy Dew]

It's a complete mess. The COVID vaccine disaster and the nuclear energy fiasco speak for themselves—physics, chemistry, and biology are already at zero. Engineering solutions—the impossibility of cobbling together a spacesuit for a spacewalk, or even a dedicated orbital station, which should have been in operation for a quarter of a century. And so on. Quantum computing—Russia, China, hypersonics, which also includes plasma physics, Russia, China, nuclear physics and chemistry—obviously, and so on across the board.) There are applied scientists, and they're mostly migrants, but an applied scientist isn't a scientist, but a lab technician. This was called a "rationalization proposal," the domain of the Ministry of Emergency Situations.

[Disant]

Quantum computers - Russia, China

and the USA.
Only these three have developments on all known physical platforms.

Observer with a COVID vaccine

and how was this expressed/evaluated?

the impossibility of cobbling together either a spacesuit for a spacewalk or one's own orbital station,

Well, there is an ISS. One is enough for them, apparently.

[Foggy Dew]

The vaccine's effectiveness is questionable, but there are tons of side effects; even the president was turned into a vegetable by the vaccine.
The ISS isn't enough for them, since the goal wasn't even to get there themselves, but to kick Russia out. It didn't work out. Without the main Russian technology module, their absence prevents them from doing anything, so they had to humiliatingly call the Soyuz, which had been removed from the ISS, to the ISS. Secondly, it doesn't matter: even now they don't know how to conduct routine maintenance on the ISS, which caused a scandal when Russia, in response to sanctions, reduced the participation of Roscosmonauts. That's it, all work on the ISS has been proportionally cut. Actually, remember the saga with the toilet—the US ultimately couldn't fix it, make it, or replace it—they bought it from Russia, and Russia replaced it.

[man]

The level of science in a country is judged by criteria such as, for example, the number of universities in the Top 100
You see, this list is overly politicized, otherwise such a unique university as Phystech wouldn’t be hanging around in the 3rd hundred.

[gromila78]

It's even more interesting here.
The official NICA website states that construction began in 2013 and commissioning is scheduled for 2023.
The Siberian Ring Photon Source, or SKIF. Commissioning was scheduled for December 2025, but no further information is available.
According to the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation "On measures to develop synchrotron and neutron research and research infrastructure in the Russian Federation," the RIF on Russky Island was supposed to be built by December 31, 2021. Subsequent revisions pushed the deadline back to December 31, 2030. Construction has not yet begun.

All these beautiful drawings are reminiscent of a space program with lunar bases, orbital stations, etc. In reality, deadlines are constantly being pushed back, and then it's either a donkey or a padishah, and we won't have to answer for construction delays.

[your1970]

Quote: Wildcat

The level of science in a country is judged by criteria such as the number of universities in the Top 100, the number of patents per country, and the Hirsch index.

Well, then the USSR is completely out of it - not a single one of its diplomas was accepted abroad as a document without retakes, practice, training, etc.
Or no?

[Wildcat]

No.
And diplomas were accepted and universities were included in the top.

PS.
I don't understand 90% of the commentators - is it really that hard to grasp the fact that the Russian Federation is not the USSR or the Russian Empire in terms of scientific or technical potential?
I understand that it’s difficult to accept that from now on it will only be “it was a difficult year.”
But comparing the Russian Empire with the USSR and the Russian Federation - what's so difficult about that?

[your1970]

Quote: Wildcat

No.
And diplomas were accepted and universities were included in the top.

In which country were they accepted???? In Angola/Mozambique??

[Wildcat]

Yes, it's not far. Mali. And closer and further.

[your1970]

Quote: Wildcat

Yes, it's not far. Mali. And closer and further.

And how many of those universities were in the TOP 100?

Quote: your1970

Quote: Wildcat

The level of science in a country is judged by criteria such as, for example, number of universities in the Top 100, the number of patents per country, we can also remember and apply the Hirsch index.

Well, then the USSR is completely out of it - not a single one of its diplomas was accepted abroad as a document without retakes, practice, training, etc.
Or no?

[Motorist]

Maritime diplomas, STCW-78 convention.

[your1970]

Quote: Motorist

Maritime diplomas, STCW-78 convention.

Sailors emigrated in droves to the USSR???
The conversation was about the recognition of diplomas abroad, not about islands Soviet territory such as embassies, ships, airplanes, etc.

[Motorist]

Quote: your1970

Sailors emigrated in droves to the USSR???

No, sailors were well-fed in the Soviet Union, too. But the discussion was about the (non-)recognition of Soviet diplomas, and I gave an example of recognition. Many countries ratified the STCW-78 Treaty.

[your1970]

Quote: Motorist

Quote: your1970

Sailors emigrated in droves to the USSR???

No, sailors were well-fed in the Soviet Union, too. But the discussion was about the (non-)recognition of Soviet diplomas, and I gave an example of recognition. Many countries ratified the STCW-78 Treaty.

So, were the diplomas of émigré sailors considered valid? Without any exams, practical training, etc.?

[Motorist]

They would have recognized it. In addition to the academic diploma awarded upon graduation from academy, seafarers also have a so-called "working diploma." Upon receiving it, the requirements of the Convention are met. Seafarers from different countries have identical information in their diplomas (given the same qualifications, of course).

[your1970]

Quote: Motorist

They would have recognized it. In addition to the academic diploma awarded upon graduation from academy, seafarers also have a so-called "working diploma." Upon receiving it, the requirements of the Convention are met. Seafarers from different countries have identical information in their diplomas (given the same qualifications, of course).

Hmm, interesting, never heard of it. Emigrants were whining all through the 1990s that "Soviet diplomas aren't recognized anywhere."

[Motorist]

Quote: your1970

Emigrants whined throughout the 1990s

I don’t know how it was with doctors or accountants, but maritime certification is a separate story.

Every five years, you need to renew your certification, provided you have a certain amount of experience and have completed various courses. I recently did this myself (for the umpteenth time). For this purpose, there are maritime qualification commissions and diploma departments at port administrations.

[Motorist]

P.S.: Many sailors in the early 90s quietly went "under the flags".

[Dock1272]

I don't quite agree. Even in Soviet times, our universities weren't highly regarded or ranked in the top 100 (well, maybe with the exception of Moscow State University and Bauman Moscow State Technical University, and even then, only in fundamental physics, mathematics, and chemistry, perhaps), despite the fact that science was much more advanced than it is today. Despite many unique treatment methods and unique surgeries, our medical degrees weren't even recognized there. So, being in the top 100 isn't really an indicator.

[Unknown]

This is the "little brother" of the Large Hadron Collider, currently under construction in Dubna, but with a completely different purpose. The PIK reactor's capabilities span the most advanced areas of science: from creating new drugs and studying proteins to developing superconductors and materials for fusion energy. They promise to finalize the project by 2033. On Russky Island plan Create RIF, or the Russian Photon Source. Construction is expected to begin in 2027. The SILA complex, or Synchrotron-Laser, is expected to be completed within the next six years.

This is still under construction, when will it actually be built? How much money is being spent there, who knows where, you don't have to look far; the Vostochny Cosmodrome is a case in point. So, the upbeat tone should be left in place for now. But the reality is this:

Unlike the above-mentioned facilities, KISI-Kurchatov was built a long time ago. Now it is the first and only one in Russia a specialized source of synchrotron radiation, the “heart” of the Kurchatov Institute in Moscow.

For now, no matter how you look at it, science still relies on the Soviet legacy.

[Foggy Dew]

Quote: Unknown

are planning to create a RIF

But SKIF already began operations in December 2024... The "money just flies away" thing is a characteristic of fundamental science; it doesn't pay for itself directly. Without it, all progress is limited to adding a 5th or 10th camera to a smartphone and some fancy bells and whistles when rebranding a logo. And then it turns out the US is the best at fancy bells and whistles, but in terms of infrastructure and technology, it's a complete failure. The last reactor was built half a century ago, and there won't be any more—we need to reinvent the technology; everyone who knew how to do it is long dead.

[Unknown]

Quote: Foggy Dew

The "money flies away" thing is a characteristic of fundamental science; it doesn't pay off directly.

I meant, some money is spent on science, and how much on construction objects. But since we touched on science spending, statistics show that in various years, the USSR allocated an average of 7-10% of GDP to medicine and healthcare. Education accounted for 10-12% of the country's budget, and science for 2-4% of the budget annually. In total, these social obligations accounted for 19-26% per year. According to official Rosstat figures, under Putin, Russia spends 7-10% per year on the social sphere (medicine, education, science). Of this, healthcare accounts for 3-4% per year, education for 3-5% per year, and science for an average of around 1% of the budget. Feel the difference, right? But in the USSR, which stretched from Kaliningrad to Kamchatka, and from Cape Chelyuskin to Kushka, with 11 time zones, 0,8% of the state budget was spent on officials. In modern Russia, which has shrunk by over 5 million square kilometers, the figure is 8%—ten times higher. In the USSR, there were 73 officials per 10 people; today, in Russia, there are 163, and the bureaucracy is expanding at full speed, leaving no time for science.

[Foggy Dew]

Oh wow! Now let's read carefully who the officials are: "In 2013, the head of the Russian Ministry of Finance, Anton Siluanov, stated that over five years the number of Russian officials (workers in education, healthcare and other public sector) "
Cut it? How does that fit into the "social sphere"?!
This twiddling and turning over of calculations is such a murky topic... I've come across so many directly contradictory estimates that I can't even count them. One is that there are far fewer Chinariks now than in the USSR. Maybe so; there were hordes of them in the Post Office alone, but now they've almost died out due to lack of use. I don't know the real picture, so I can't say anything about it. If statistics simply listed all government employees as civil servants, then science would automatically be the first to be cut, especially fundamental science—it doesn't provide any return in rubles. Then come teachers and doctors.

[Unknown]

Quote: Foggy Dew

Oh wow! Now let's read carefully who these officials are:

There's no need to cast aspersions on who the officials are, etc. I see how my pension fund is bloated, and I walk in and see a friend's daughter, who graduated from BGTU with a degree in forestry, and she's sitting in the pension fund. A higher education is a ticket to becoming a bureaucrat. Get a higher education, and you'll get into government somewhere.

[your1970]

Quote: Unknown

0,8% of the state budget was spent on officials

There is something vulgar there - these are the costs of the USSR civil servants. WITHOUT Party apparatus accounting. And it was everywhere in the USSR...

Quote: Unknown

is in full swing increase bureaucrats have no time for science here.

Yeah, that's why there was a layoff in June 2025. All government agencies by 12%.
For example, the number of state land inspectors, of which there are currently 2,800 across the country, will be cut in half to 1300 in 2027.
Rosselkhoznadzor is already split between two and three regions. In 2011, the Federal Customs Service was immediately reduced by 6,000 along the border with Kazakhstan, eliminating customs control.
In our region, there are 5 Federal Tax Service departments left, each with 1-3 employees.
In our region, Rosreestr has 14 departments remaining for 36 districts.
But you keep on droning on about "increasing the number of officials", yeah...

[Unknown]

Quote: your1970

These are the costs of Soviet civil servants, excluding the party apparatus. And it was everywhere in the USSR.

No need for songs about the party apparatus and so on. Come on, how many officials do we have among the members of United Russia?

Quote: your1970

Yeah, that's why in June 2025 ALL government agencies were cut by 12%.

And where did these "poor civil servants" go? Are they still employed by the labor exchange, or have they migrated to other government agencies?

[your1970]

Quote: Unknown

No need for songs about the party apparatus and so on. Come on, how many officials do we have among the members of United Russia?

Let me remind you that you will be very surprised and shocked, but it is a fact - only the tip State apparatus in United Russia - and everything below that is not a party member - is prohibited by Federal Law No. 79.
Well, in the USSR, Soviet power and party existed side-by-side - district committees and district executive committees, city committees and city executive committees, and so on, from top to bottom, down to the most remote aul and camp. Moreover, the party authorities had a higher status and powers – even the party buildings were better.
And nearby there was the Komsomol, the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions and a bunch of other civil servants.

Quote: Unknown

And where did these "poor civil servants" go? Are they still employed by the labor exchange, or have they migrated to other government agencies?

You are inattentive

Quote: your1970

reduction All government agencies

- that's why they all went to the stock exchange, retired, and so on.
And yes, if you didn't know, the country is short not only of turners, but also of civil servants.
Moreover, in our traffic police 2 vacancies (!!!!!!!!!!!) They can't fill them for 3 years - people don't go to the police

[Unknown]

Quote: your1970

Let me remind you that - you will be very surprised and shocked, but it is a fact - only the top of the state apparatus is in United Russia - and everyone below that is not a member of a party - it is prohibited by Federal Law 79.

Really?

4.1.1. Members of the Party may be citizens of the Russian Federation who have reached the age of eighteen, share its goals and objectives, comply with its Charter, and participate in its activities.

Foreign citizens and stateless persons, citizens of the Russian Federation recognized by the court as incompetent, as well as citizens who, in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation, cannot be members of a political party, may not be members of the Party.

4.1.2. Membership in the Party is voluntary and individual.

And there is also an addition:

4.6.2. Party supporters are citizens of the Russian Federation who support the Party's programmatic goals and practical actions, adhere to the Party's ethical standards as stipulated by this Charter, and provide any assistance that does not conflict with current legislation and this Charter. Party supporters also include citizens who have temporarily suspended their membership in the Party for the reasons set out in paragraph 4.4.1 of this Charter.

4.6.3. Party supporters nominated by the Party for elective positions in state authorities and local government bodies have the right to support the Party in conducting their election campaigns.

So, let's not talk about United Russia. For your information, the USSR was in the local Soviets full of non-party members.

Quote: your1970

And yes, if you didn't know, the country is short not only of turners, but also of civil servants.
Moreover, we have 2 vacancies in the State Traffic Inspectorate (!!!!!!!!!!!) and they haven’t been able to fill them for 3 years – people don’t go into the police department.

Who went to the labor exchange? Officials? You're joking. The traffic police are short-staffed – funny joke. The Bryansk branch of the Oryol Law Institute of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia named after V.V. Lukyanov is overflowing with applicants. I know what I'm talking about.

[your1970]

Quote: Unknown

So, let's not talk about United Russia.

You bring it yourself

Quote: Unknown

also citizens who, in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation, cannot be members of a political party.

In accordance with Federal Law No. 79, civil servants cannot be members of any party.

Quote: Unknown

Who went to the stock exchange? Officials? You're joking.

Yeah, what kind of humor is this? It's a miracle they didn't cut it. Haven't you tried reading?

Quote: your1970

That's why the reduction took place in June 2025 All government agencies by 12%.

?
Where to go - if out of 36 Federal Tax Service departments there are 5 left per region, out of 36 Registration Chambers there are 14 left where 4-5-7 people work.
And I repeat, all government agencies have been cut.

Quote: Unknown

The traffic police are short-staffed – funny joke

Very funny - when two girls arrive in response to a call, yeah...
In the basement with 1,5 years of service - there are no 2 people, only girls are sitting on guard duty.
There are no district plots less than 3 per 1, but there are also 4-5.
Previously, pre-retirement people would go to the duty room to wait it out, but now even there there is a shortage of 1.
Well, I'm just laughing my ass off at how funny this is..

Quote: Unknown

The Bryansk branch of the Oryol Law Institute of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia named after V.V. Lukyanov is overflowing with applicants. I know what I'm talking about.

- Of course, no one wants to serve in the army, so young people try to sneak around in any way they can. They don't send cops to LBS...

Quote: Unknown

So, let's not talk about United Russia. For the record, in the USSR, local councils were full of non-party members.

There were about 17 million members in the CPSU, and 2,6 million in United Russia.

[Unknown]

Quote: your1970

In accordance with Federal Law No. 79, civil servants cannot be members of any party.

According to this law, officials are exempt from many obligations, but in practice, things are different. And another aspect: if an official resigns from service and joins United Russia, then connections They remained in government structures. Manus manum lavat - "one hand washes the other."

Quote: your1970

Where to go - if out of 36 Federal Tax Service departments there are 5 left per region, out of 36 Registration Chambers there are 14 left where 4-5-7 people work.
And I repeat, all government agencies have been cut.

Well, I don't know... I mean, acquaintances, in city services, like housing and communal services, Gorgaz, and the consumer union—I've had to deal with that. The building across from mine used to be a drug enforcement agency, with countless people and emergency vehicles. Now there are just as many, but it's the National Guard, which is a sign there aren't enough cops.

Quote: your1970

Of course, no one wants to serve in the army, so young people try to sneak around in any way they can. They don't send cops to find people who are on their own.

You may be right, but here in the Bryansk region, it's very easy to end up on the LBS, and the Chernihiv region is just a stone's throw away.

Quote: your1970

There were about 17 million members in the CPSU, and 2,6 million in United Russia.

Everything is still ahead, besides, the population of the Union is 290,1 ​​million, and the Russian Federation is 143,394,458 people.

[your1970]

Quote: Unknown

That is, acquaintances in city services, such as housing and communal services, Gorgaz

Mmmi - what do these offices have to do with CIVIL SERVICE????!!!!! You claimed that they

Quote: Unknown

migrated to other government services?

Quote: Unknown

District Consumer Union

This office wasn't exactly state-owned even during the Soviet era. Now, it clearly has no connection whatsoever to the state.

Quote: Unknown

You may be right, but here in the Bryansk region, it's very easy to end up on the LBS, and the Chernihiv region is just a stone's throw away.

It's possible. Only the cops are sent in groups of 10 from each region, no more. And even then, not often. We went to Chechnya more often and in larger numbers.
The main graduating class of this school is dispersing across the country.

Quote: Unknown

According to this law, officials are not required to do many things, but in practice everything is different.

Let me remind you that the conversation was about

Quote: Unknown

Well, how many officials do we have among the members of United Russia?

And suddenly it turned out that for 99% of civil servants, party membership does not advance their careers in principle - unlike in the USSR.

Quote: Unknown

Everything is still ahead, besides, the population of the Union is 290,1 ​​million, and the Russian Federation is 143,394,458 people.

"In 1952, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU) had 6,013,259 party members and 868,886 candidate members."
The population is 2 times smaller, and the party is almost 3 times smaller - after 35 years of the state's existence

[Unknown]

Quote: your1970

Mmmm - what do these offices have to do with the CIVIL SERVICE????!!!!! You claimed that they

No, they don’t have any, but... all the same, local officials are closely connected with the district government authorities.

Quote: your1970

And suddenly it turned out that for 99% of civil servants, party membership does not advance their careers in principle - unlike in the USSR.

No need to do it the way he does it, our Bogomaz is a shining example, and in the USSR there were many non-party members who made a career.

Quote: your1970

The population is 2 times smaller, and the party is almost 3 times smaller - after 35 years of the state's existence

We'll see what happens next and how many United Russia members will remain, given the current population growth rate. It's been observed that former officials, who are never former, will defend their class vehemently. Caste.

[your1970]

Quote: Unknown

No, they don’t have any, but... all the same, local officials are closely connected with the district government authorities.

Damn, and at the same time we have a shortage of staff in the district administrations 30% in the region!!!!!!!!!

Quote: Unknown

Yes, in the USSR there were many non-party members who made a career.

For example? Just keep in mind that I will give you MOUNTAIN Examples of those who made a career in the party. For example, MSG, who was accepted into the party under Stalin in 1952.

Quote: Unknown

It's been observed that former officials, who are never former, stand up for their class. Caste.

Bugaga.
And the army/customs/prosecutor's office/collective farmers from one village/scientists from one laboratory/etc. - they don't stand up for their class???? They're not a caste???
Oh well.....

[Unknown]

Quote: your1970

Damn, and at the same time, we have a shortage of up to 30% in district administrations in the region!!!!!!!!!

That's just your situation, so don't speak for the whole country. As a simple pensioner, I see it more than enough in our area.

Quote: your1970

For example? Just keep in mind that I'll give you a mountain of examples of people who made a career in the party. For example, MSG, who was accepted into the party under Stalin in 1952.

Examples like dirt, cosmonaut GSS Leonov, for example, also look and you will find.

Quote: your1970

Bugaga.
And the army/customs/prosecutor's office/collective farmers from one village/scientists from one laboratory/etc. - they don't stand up for their class???? They're not a caste???
Oh well.

What, they don't stand up for their own? Isn't that a caste? I'll try to pick on the officers in the company of retired officers, and I'll go straight to the point about customs officers and the rest of the punitive organs— none They won't challenge the decision issued by their own employee, even a rank-and-file cop will write a report, you'll be exhausted trying to prove the opposite. Even initial Another doctor won't always question a doctor's diagnosis. So, no need, we started talking about science and ended up... back in the same old, pointless old story.

[your1970]

Quote: Unknown

That's just your situation, so don't speak for the whole country. As a simple pensioner, I see it more than enough in our area.

And you should take an interest - if you are not in the Krasnodar region and not a city with a population of a million - you have offers Vacancies in the district administration. Who's foolish enough to work the equivalent of three people for 22,000 rubles? Only pre-retirement people and women...
Of course, a certain circle of people lives well there, but that's no more than 10% of the entire apparatus. The rest are "priests" and "Work from here until tomorrow - but get the results on the table yesterday!!"

Quote: Unknown

It's been observed that former officials, who are never former, stand up for their class. Caste.

- I told you about caste everything and everyone, even pensioners, not just officials - and you agree with this.

[novel66]

Space has roughly the same problems. There are no people to do anything new. There are plenty of managers, by the way.

[Foggy Dew]

The manufacturing sector is a whole other story))) At least our guys recently realized that the couriers are all lawyers and managers, and there are no workers or engineers.))) And the mattresses are still the same – lawyers and psychotherapists all around, and no one who works with their hands! Indians write software, Koreans build nuclear power plants, and Musk, due to the fact that there's no one to make robots, has Mexicans working 12-hour shifts tightening nuts at Gigafactory or laying tiles in the open at Starship, so they explode.))) And now Ryzhiy is trying to ban emigration.))) And nothing changes.)))

[gridasov]

For over ten years, I've been saying, and certainly not without benefit, that the operating algorithms of a common turbocharger or any turbine don't utilize a fundamentally important process. This prevents us from understanding all the process algorithms. This makes it expensive, time-consuming, complex, resource-intensive, and ineffective. Therefore, flights in continuous media and into space are mathematically tied to the fact that the more we want, the more energy resources we need. BUT, they refuse to understand that all materials, including energy sources, are in a state of balance within the complex physical state of matter in this planet's environment. Therefore, nothing fundamentally stable and long-lasting can be created. BUT! It is possible to algorithmically create an infinitely repeating pulse from such a source of ultra-high or simply sufficient energy. ENERGY is not an abstraction, a formula, or a concept with limited parameters or data. IT IS the sum of many processes and the algorithm of their transformations. And without the ability and mathematical tools to analyze these essentially non-obvious process stages, it's impossible to control the process. All we have is a boom, and the faster it progresses, the less easily understood it becomes. This explains the limited capabilities in both space and energy production.

[solar]

The operating algorithms of a banal turbocharger and any turbine do not use a fundamentally important process.

These issues are discussed in the fundamental work “Rooter: A Methodology for the Typical Unification of Access Points and Redundancy” by MIT graduates Jeremy Stribling, Daniel Aguayo, and Maxwell Krohn, and earlier in Bartini’s article “Some Relationships between Physical Constants,” published in the “Proceedings of the USSR Academy of Sciences” back in 1965.

[gridasov]

It's important to understand that truly breakthrough fundamental solutions are not published or openly patented. Furthermore, the discovery and invention itself have a more important component: the justification and methodology for analyzing the process that powers the device. Therefore, I can't say which is more important: the derivative of a new method of mathematical justification based on the properties of numbers, which hasn't been used before, or a specific, individual solution in the form of a new device that takes engine engineering to a new level.

[alexoff]

Quote: Foggy Dew

The last reactor was built half a century ago, and there won't be any more - we need to reinvent the technology, everyone who knew how to do it has long since died.

Well, they're installing reactors on nuclear aircraft carriers and submarines just fine. And Westinghouse is squeezing out the assembly markets; we're selling them uranium cheaper, and they're putting together the assemblies for sale and making a profit.

[Foggy Dew]

Well, a reactor on a submarine and a nuclear power plant are like a hydroelectric power station and a turbine on an airplane. And Westinghouse won't get anything if they don't know how to build their own reactors. They can sell two worth of junk and one worth of Pashinyan, but no one else is willing to play the fool and risk their lives. If they built their own reactors, it would be possible.

[gridasov]

In their current form, the engineering solutions for a reactor and a turbine are completely different. However, the creation of a dynamic reactor using technology that converts radial radiation into linear radiation allows for a radical change in the turbine's functionality. Moreover, the new reactor architecture combines the turbine's functions as a propulsion unit and an electromagnetic generator within a single unit. But the most important aspect of this is the methodology for analyzing and constructing process algorithms that enables this optimization.

[Paranoid62]

Quote: gridasov

The creation of a dynamic reactor using technology for transforming radial radioactive radiation into linear radiation allows the turbine itself to be radically changed in its functional task

The rotor of the field, like a divergence, graduates itself along the spin and there, inside, turns the matter of the question into spiritual electrical vortices, from which the synecdoche of the answer arises

Compare. The second one is by the Strugatsky brothers, already a classic. And the first one... well, IMHO, it's nonsense, although very similar.

[gridasov]

Don't overcomplicate things! It's much simpler. People are bred to perceive things associatively. That's why they're susceptible to herd mentality and lack developed free thinking. I haven't invented anything other than combining the optimized functionality of each device. I'd rather talk about the mathematics and the method of distributing super-big data.

[KCA]

NICA is already up and running, I pushed the button myself, but reaching full functionality is another matter entirely. You're just reflecting, but there was a 5-year queue from all over the world for experiments even before the first launch. I don't know how long it's going to be now. You're probably fools who believe in fairy tales.

[your1970]

Quote: Unknown

But the reality is this:
Unlike the facilities described above, KISI-Kurchatov was built a long time ago. It is currently the first and only specialized synchrotron radiation source in Russia, the "heart" of the Kurchatov Institute in Moscow.
For now, no matter how you look at it, science still relies on the Soviet legacy.

The MC-400 and U-300 accelerators, and the Phobos and Deimos installations were built at the Laboratory of Nuclear Reactions under Oganessian's supervision in 1995 at the Joint Institute for Nuclear Research.

[Unknown]

Quote: your1970

The MC-400 and U-300 accelerators, and the Phobos and Deimos installations were built at the Laboratory of Nuclear Reactions under Oganessian's supervision in 1995 at the Joint Institute for Nuclear Research.

The decision to build the U-400 was made in 1974, the first parts began to be processed on July 7, 1975, and the installation of the accelerator was completed in August 1978. The U-400 is designed to produce intense beams of fast ions of virtually all elements of the periodic table.

[your1970]

Quote: Unknown

Decision on the U-400

Quote: your1970

MC-400

These are two different accelerators: the U-400 worked in the 1990s, and I participated in the construction of vacuum systems on the MC-400 until 1995, when I moved.
The U-300 was almost completely rebuilt in the 1990s.

[Wildcat]

Some data and ratings from Wiki: “In 2019, in terms of the share of science expenditure in GDP (1,1%), Russia is in 34th place; in terms of domestic expenditure on research and development per researcher, it is in 47th place; in terms of the number of patent applications, Russia lags behind the United States by almost 16 times, and behind China by 38 times[38].

A lack of funding leads to a lag in wages in the scientific field, which further provokes a "brain drain" (since 2012, the outflow of scientists has accelerated fivefold – from 14 per year to 70[22]; from 2018 to 2023, approximately 50 research staff were lost[39]). Furthermore, the pace of creation and renewal of scientific infrastructure is insufficient, and this directly impacts the creation of competitive living and working conditions for research workers. This is also the main problem in the implementation of the Russian national project "Science" and the state program "Scientific and Technological Development of the Russian Federation"[40].
...
In 2024, Russia ranked 59th in the Global Innovation Index.[60] While it surpassed India in 2021, it lagged significantly behind it in 2022.[61][62] Russia is home to one of the world's top 100 science and technology clusters—Moscow (ranked 31st in 2024).[60]

Russia ranked 22nd in the 2023 Nature Index["
Hurray, hurray, hurray!

[alexoff]

Quote: Wildcat

Lack of funding leads to a lag in wages in the scientific field, which further provokes a “brain drain”

In 2022, some labs were literally deserted. Where there used to be a lot of young people, there are literally tumbleweeds now. They're even twisting the May decrees around, making everyone's salary double the regional average, transferring them to half-time, a quarter-time, a tenth-time, keeping everyone on the junior staff, and so on.

[your1970]

Quote: Wildcat

Russia ranked 22nd in the 2023 Nature Index["

Finland ranks in the top three in happiness ratings, yet it leads the world in suicide rates.
Finland is in the top three in corruption ratings, but when entire posts and shifts were imprisoned for bribes in Torfyanovsk/Svetogorsk/Brusnichka, there was no corruption on that side.

This is enough to understand that any ratings are complete bullshit.

[Wildcat]

This is enough to understand that any ratings are complete bullshit.

Enough... hmm, you "You allow yourself, with a completely unbearable impudence, to offer advice of cosmic proportions and cosmic stupidity."

[your1970]

Quote: Wildcat

This is enough to understand that any ratings are complete bullshit.

Enough... hmm, you "You allow yourself, with a completely unbearable impudence, to offer advice of cosmic proportions and cosmic stupidity."

Oh, excuse me - I dared to encroach on holy - to the Ratings!!!!!
Keep believing...........

[Wildcat]

Below, the respected Solar has clarified some of your misconceptions.
But you can't even comprehend a simple text with explanations... and there's no comma after the word "Ah"...
Look here - leave me alone, please.

[your1970]

Quote: Wildcat

and there is no comma after the word "Ah"...

Well, it's clear - the comma is in the wrong place, nudist comes from the word boring.
Especially one who believes in "Ratings"

[Paranoid62]

Quote: Wildcat

You can't even comprehend a simple text with explanations... and there's no comma after the word "Ah"...

That's who would say

Quote: Wildcat

I don't understand 90% of the commentators - the realization that the Russian Federation not USSR and not RI is not based on scientific or technical potential - is it really so difficult to understand?

You have "not" instead of "ni" twice. And don't say it's a coincidence.

[solar]

Finland is in the top three in corruption ratings.

Let me correct you a bit. The higher the ranking, the lower the level of corruption in the country.

According to the annual ranking, the least corrupt countries in the world are Denmark (1st place), Finland (2nd place) and Singapore (3rd place), Yle wrote on February 10.
Russia is ranked 157th in this ranking, with 22 points out of 100. For comparison, Denmark has 89 points.
The index has been published since 2012. Back then, Russia had a score of 28. The highest score a country has ever achieved in this index was 30, which was achieved at the end of 2020.

https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2025/index/fin

Finland ranks in the top three in happiness ratings, yet it leads the world in suicide rates.

But in this ranking, it's the opposite: the higher the ranking, the more suicides. Finland ranks 39th in the suicide rankings, with a suicide rate of 13,43. By comparison, Russia ranks 12th, with a suicide rate of 21,6.
https://gtmarket.ru/ratings/global-suicide-ranking

[your1970]

Quote from solar

Let me correct you a bit. The higher the ranking, the lower the level of corruption in the country.

According to the annual ranking, the least corrupt countries in the world are Denmark (1st place), Finland (2nd place) and Singapore (3rd place), Yle wrote on February 10.
Russia is ranked 157th in this ranking, with 22 points out of 100. For comparison, Denmark has 89 points.
The index has been published since 2012. Back then, Russia had a score of 28. The highest score a country has ever achieved in this index was 30, which was achieved at the end of 2020.

It is quite enough for me that, according to this rating, in half of Africa, Ukraine and Tajikistan there is no corruption at all - in comparison with Russia.
Seriously???!!!
And yes, the Federal Customs Service regularly passed on information about possible corruption among Finnish customs officials to Finland.
You know HOW Are they being inspected? The customs officers were asked to provide statements in which they stated they had not taken bribes.
Everything....
It's clear that the corruption rating will be zero in Finland.
It's a different story with us - "Look at his face - that means he's definitely corrupt!!!" (c)

[solar]

It is quite enough for me that, according to this rating, in half of Africa, Ukraine and Tajikistan there is no corruption at all - in comparison with Russia.
Seriously???!!!

Have you read the rankings? Russia is 157th, with 22 points, Tajikistan is 166th, with 19 points.

[your1970]

Quote from solar

Finland is in the top three in corruption ratings.

Let me correct you a bit. The higher the ranking, the lower the level of corruption in the country.

According to the annual ranking, the least corrupt countries in the world are Denmark (1st place), Finland (2nd place) and Singapore (3rd place), Yle wrote on February 10.
Russia is ranked 157th in this ranking, with 22 points out of 100. For comparison, Denmark has 89 points.
The index has been published since 2012. Back then, Russia had a score of 28. The highest score a country has ever achieved in this index was 30, which was achieved at the end of 2020.

https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2025/index/fin

Finland ranks in the top three in happiness ratings, yet it leads the world in suicide rates.

But in this ranking, it's the opposite: the higher the ranking, the more suicides. Finland ranks 39th in the suicide rankings, with a suicide rate of 13,43. By comparison, Russia ranks 12th, with a suicide rate of 21,6.
https://gtmarket.ru/ratings/global-suicide-ranking

Does the minimal number of suicides in countries of complete horror bother you?

125 Guatemala 6.23
126 Paraguay 6.16
127 El Salvador 6.11
128 Turkmenistan 6.07
129 Laos 5.98
130 Afghanistan 5.96
131 Malaysia 5.77
132 Cambodia 5.49
133 Mauritania 5.47
134 Saudi Arabia 5.43
135 Tajikistan 5.32
136 Malta 5.32
137 Mexico 5.29
138 Spain 5.28
139 United Arab Emirates 5.24
140 Israel 5.15
141 Iran 5.13
142 Dominican Republic 5.11
143 Bhutan 5.07
144 Sudan 4.76
145 Iraq 4.74
146 Qatar 4.66
147 Nicaragua 4.66
148 Timor-Leste 4.53
149 Libya 4.49
150 Oman 4.47
151 Tonga 4.37
152 Italy 4.33
153 Azerbaijan 3.97
154 Bangladesh 3.85
155 Colombia 3.74
156 Albania 3.72
157 Greece 3.62
158 Papua New Guinea 3.57
159 Egypt 3.41
160 Bahamas 3.37
161 Tunisia 3.18
162 Cyprus 3.18
163 Myanmar 2.96
164 Panama 2.86
165 Lebanon 2.76
166 Maldives 2.76
167 Peru 2.73
168 Kuwait 2.66
169 Armenia 2.66
170 Algeria 2.6
171 Honduras 2.58
172 Indonesia 2.55
173 Brunei 2.54
174 Philippines 2.54
175 Türkiye 2.34
176 Jamaica 2.28
177 Sao Tome and Principe 2.2
178 Syria 2.11
179 Venezuela 2.1
180 Jordan 1.98
181 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 1.01
182 Grenada 0.64
183 Antigua and Barbuda 0.32
184 Barbados 0.31

[solar]

What should be alarming? Suicide rates are a complex function of historical traditions, religion, economic situation, and many other factors. And not necessarily obvious. For Catholics and Christians in general, for example, suicide is a terrible sin, no matter how bad it is. And what kind of horror is this in Barbados or Grenada, for example?

[your1970]

Quote from solar

What should be alarming? Suicide rates are a complex function of historical traditions, religion, economic situation, and many other factors. And not necessarily obvious. For Catholics and Christians in general, for example, suicide is a terrible sin, no matter how bad it is. And what kind of horror is this in Barbados or Grenada, for example?

I get it – you two simply believe in the Great Ratings. Sorry for infringing on sacred grounds...

[solar]

"Believe" is a word that's generally part of the religious lexicon. And in this case, I didn't say I believe in it. You simply cited these ratings yourself, which, as it turns out, was slightly mistaken.

[Commissar Kitten]

Quote: your1970

Finland ranks in the top three in happiness ratings, yet it leads the world in suicide rates.

I checked - she's in 32nd place.

[Boris55]

Bolshevism is the essence of Russian civilization.

Quote: E. Fedorov

NICA (Nuclotron-based Ion Collider Facility) is a facility under construction in Dubna...

Judging by the name, Dubna is in England?
We're doing just fine with science. We just need to sort out the masturbation...

[KCA]

JINR was originally created as an international organization. Admittedly, its members were only socialist countries, but there was collaboration with capitals, joint seminars, and even experiments. The internet appeared at JINR when no one had heard of such a word in the USSR. Why? It was so that Western partners could receive the results of their experiments in real time. So, the English-language name shouldn't be confusing.

[Boris55]

Bolshevism is the essence of Russian civilization.

Quote: KCA

so that Western partners receive results in real time своих experiments... so the name in English letters shouldn't be confusing

It doesn't confuse, it outrages! "Ku" in front of the West is irritating.

So this is an English project?
Let me remind you: in Russia, the only official language is Russian.

ps
The UN has six languages ​​for international communication, one of which is Russian. All UN documents are issued in these six languages, including Russian.

[KCA]

They paid for their own experiments, and the entire JINR used the internet through their satellite dishes. The WWW didn't exist yet, but I learned about FTP and email and began my pirate activities. Aren't you ashamed to bow to the West, using borrowed words? Or do you think "official" is a rustic Slavic word that was used back in the Novgorod Chronicles?

[Boris55]

Bolshevism is the essence of Russian civilization.

Quote: KCA

THEIR experiments, for which they paid money

Is that all you need to get your money? Wouldn't it be shameful to sell your own mother (Russia) for that?

Quote: KCA

You think that "official" is a native Slavic word.

No. I don't think so, just like many foreign words that have taken root in our language. The enrichment of languages ​​across cultures is a constant process.

Poking Latin where it is necessary and where it is not necessary, thereby humiliating one's own language and, as a consequence, one's own culture - this is unacceptable!

Let's look at Ukraine to see what happens when the government ignores the people's language.

[KCA]

Tell me how to write this in Cyrillic: Nuclotron-based Ion Collider fAcility, we'll figure out how to write it in abbreviated form.

[Boris55]

Bolshevism is the essence of Russian civilization.

Quote: KCA

Nuclotron-based Ion Collider fAcility

Superconducting Collider of Protons and Heavy Ions (SCPiTI).

[KCA]

There's a mistake right away - Nuclon - nucleus, and the rest, collider, proton, ion are borrowed words, tron ​​is added to physical research devices, and I asked to write in Old Church Slavonic, or modern Russian, so that the words are not borrowed, but Slavic, so that they are written only in Cyrillic, and not foreign words distorted into Russian. If you write "жопа" instead of "ass", the meaning will not change.

[don_Reba]

Quote: Boris55

SKPiTI.

Scientific Institute of Chemical Fertilizers of Yakutia?

Quote: KCA

Nuclon - nucleus,

A nucleon is a proton and/or neutron (log, brick)
And the nucleus is a house/barn, which is assembled from nucleons and all sorts of strong bonds (nails)

Quote: KCA

ion loanwords, tron

Why are you bothering me?
These are Greek words. Aristotles, Hippocrates, and the likes of Thales of Miletus were not Slavs, nor were they Chud, nor even Finno-Ugric. There were still eight or nine centuries of history left before the appearance of Cyril and Methodius.
Keep the paperclip
Nuclotron-based Ion Collider fAcility = Tower for Speeding Up Samiks = TUSA💁

[solar]

Nuclotron-based Ion Collider facility

I noticed that this imported word has a clear similarity with the original Russian word "kolidor".
https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/колидор

[your1970]

Quote: KCA

true, only socialist countries,

Germany, Japan, and South Korea were in full swing in 1992, when I worked there. And judging by the installations, they started working at least five years before that.

[KCA]

I wrote that the founders and members were socialist countries, but cooperation existed both before and after the collapse of the USSR. Is something wrong? Our people went there, and theirs came to us, but they weren't part of JINR. We do have the Academy of Sciences, which maintains contacts with everyone in the world, but no one there is ours, except for research fellows on exchange programs or joint programs.

[Stas157]

the revival is evident

Low funding is a barrier. Not even in absolute terms, but as a percentage of GDP. Science spending is showing good growth dynamics. From 2015 to 2025, Russia's R&D spending increased 1,45-fold (from ~0,76% to 1,1% of GDP). This is a good dynamic, even if you don't take into account the leaders. For example, in China, it increased 2,48-fold (from ~1% to 2,4-2,69% of GDP). And if you look at absolute spending, China spends 20-30 times more! We also have a serious problem with the outflow of scientific personnel abroad. Outflow: 15-20 thousand scientists have left since 2022. If you look at the main parameters (R&D (% of GDP), publications (volume), citations, patents per capita, innovation, AI computing power), you will see that over time we are only falling behind the leaders of global science (the US, EU, China).
Therefore, it is too early to sing praises.

[Wildcat]

No, it's okay, you can sing.
A mega-task, one might even say mega-science, has been set for science at the VO forum. Forum member Boris writes: "Everything is fine with our science. We would like to have masturbation figure out..."

May science and its, I’m not afraid to say it, mega-science not abandon those who suffer in this difficult moment!

While science searches for an answer, perhaps someone can offer practical advice? This person must be in dire need of it, since they've turned to VO with such a problem...

[Boris55]

The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

Quote: Wildcat

While science is looking for an answer, maybe someone can give some advice.

I won't give advice, but I'll ask a question. What is science for?
To make money (oligarchs) or to make the people's work easier (the state)?
Having answered these questions, we can set corresponding tasks for science.

[lutikovvn]

I'd like to believe this clichéd image. But my eyes and life experience confirm otherwise.

[Owl]

Science exists, but industry either lags behind that of its "partners" or is nonexistent (saved by "gray schemes"). Our "oligarch friends" know that the payback period for new production is 15-25 years, and they don't want to invest in developing new industries or restoring those lost in the 90s. Plus, there's the "magic" value-added tax (VAT)—it's easier and cheaper (as it was until 2022) to import raw materials than to produce furniture, machine tools, airplanes, and fuel. There's simply no point in even mentioning the "Na...b...ulina credit policy"; without funds, you can't build anything.

[Million]

Too optimistic article.

[TerraSandera]

Haters of the Soviet Union are as pathetic as ever, failing to give credit to the part of our history where some of them grew up. Oh well. According to the article. All projects are good when they're completed and launched. Results, as they say, are temporary. But this "being built," "planned," for 2027 doesn't always yield results. There are plenty of examples.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: TerraSandera

Haters of the Soviet Union are as pathetic as ever, failing to give credit to the part of our history where some of them grew up. Oh well.

So weren't the capitalism haters who've been convincing everyone since the early 90s that "your" history is a complete cliche and pathetic, and right now, without Western "civilization," we (you) are doomed! Right?
And then, bam! And after 2022, suddenly all these haters switched from Westerners to "patriots" of the Russian Empire, but as before, the "Sovok" is pathetic and cheap, and therefore to blame for everything.
Methodologies, at least change them sometimes - no imagination, no brains.

[TerraSandera]

Those who can read will read, those who can think will understand. Apparently, this is not about you.

[Foggy Dew]

Fundamental science is an essential prerequisite for a global superpower. Germany, for example, can handle chemistry and nothing more, and develop Henkel-Basf-Bayer companies on it. France can handle nuclear physics, a bit of chemistry, and active materials. It will also take a place in the nuclear industry, energy, and reprocessing. And they will remain remote provinces, just regional ones. Only by developing fundamental science can we pursue all areas—space, nuclear energy, ocean exploration, for example, and even communications and computer science in all their forms. That's why, for example, China and India, with comparable populations, aren't competing; one is vying for leadership, while the other has remained a province and won't have a chance to develop a defense industry—it has programmers, but no materials science—it will never have aircraft engines, and therefore, there will be no aviation.

[gridasov]

In my opinion, scientific strategists are trapped by their own beliefs that reality is as they see it, not as it is. Therefore, more effective researchers will work with the new generation of scientists than with those currently alive. In mathematics, there is no such thing as set theory, or anything else without changing the essence. This theory of working with super-big data changes a person's worldview and allows them to analyze not by filtering or relying on subjective assessment, but by perceiving arrays of information and optimizing them in algorithms. But this requires a breakthrough in each person's own thinking and accepting the obvious: all modern human reasoning is based on the mathematics of analyzing low-potential physical processes, which is analysis based on a variable function of Number, the ultimate approach that allows us to understand reality using binary logic. And only the use of the so-called constant-value function of Number allows us to think in arrays of conjugate data. The question is not about being first or a leader, but about effectively analyzing reality at a deeper level and with super-big data arrays. Radial construction and algorithmic thinking are the root and foundation upon which all other configurations are built. And frankly, any self-sustaining thought must always seek its own alternative. Therefore, in a large country, it is difficult to find a place for the new. And the new is the fundamental product upon which assets of all types profit and which ensures sustainable and independent development. You can have plenty of hydrocarbons, but nuclear energy production must move to dynamic reactors. In engine manufacturing, we must understand how to utilize resistance energy. It is worth remembering that civilization is in a transition period toward high-potential physical and information processes, which means it is necessary to change the tools for analysis, not just for calculating individual events.

[ont65]

In fact, after the dubious reforms of science funding and reorganization, efforts are being concentrated solely on a few critical areas. The Russian Federation cannot and does not intend to revive anything in its previous form and size. The changes are the same as those in the overall economic structure. Some second-tier areas and organizations (currently more than half of the total) will disappear entirely in the near future due to their lack of need. Reduction is the main direction of negative development. This process will primarily affect the regions. Scientific organizations are moving to the center.

[Glagol1]

"Upper Volta with missiles, a gas station country torn to shreds, etc." – we've been called all sorts of things in the West. But these are just wishes; the reality is quite different. Envy also stems from such a vast territory, resources, and a talented and patient population. A hundred nations combined. Therefore, they will insult, label, restrain, and bully us. In response, we must expose their real vices – greed, lack of principles, immorality, aggressiveness, meanness, impudence, envy, a pathological tendency to lie. Draw crooked tattoos on their faces.

[don_Reba]

Plans are underway to build a RIF, or Russian Photon Source, on Russky Island. Construction is expected to begin in 2027.

To promise is not to marry!

[Paranoid62]

Quote: don_Reba

Promising does not mean marrying

Well, for some reason, 22 got in there between 20 and 26. Which kind of hints at it.

[don_Reba]

They could have at least poured the foundation in 2020 or 2021, it would have held up.
And they went crazy with Covid.
By the way, it's unclear: where can you find scientists on Russky Island? Japanese, Korean, or Chinese?
🥱
The last hadron collider in the USSR, UNK, was built in 1983 near Protvino (Moscow Oblast). The Institute for High Energy Physics (IHEP) is located nearby.
I understand that trillions can be developed on the foundations, especially on Russky Island.

[Paranoid62]

Quote: don_Reba

And they went crazy with Covid

Well, here's another one

Quote: don_Reba

I understand that trillions can be developed on the foundations, especially on Russky Island.

This is not for me, this is for the authors of the project.

[don_Reba]

Quote: Paranoid62

This is not for me, this is for the authors of the project.

Don't try to dodge me here.
Where can we find "Russian" scientists for RIF in a country of right-hand drive used Japanese cars?
You have to fly halfway across the world to get to Novosibirsk.

[Paranoid62]

Quote: don_Reba

Where can we find "Russian" scientists for RIF in a country of right-hand drive used Japanese cars?

We need to cultivate local ones. Have you grown in Siberia? And the Far East? Then develop them.

And yes, the customer there again is not me, but the Kuchatov Institute, and the questions are for them

[don_Reba]

Quote: Paranoid62

Have you grown into Siberia? And the Far East? Then go explore.

They grew there probably more than 200 years ago. They don't grow very well.
Run.
I have a colleague of mine (a Bashkir by birth, a Muslim by faith) from Nizhnevartovsk (no way) with his family fled: he says everything is dark (not even gray). I can't live without white people.

[Bersaglieri]

Not on the foundation, but on the tunnel excavation. There is a 20-kilometer tunnel in Protvino—what's stopping them from finishing the synchrotron there, instead of building it in Vladivostok?

[Stanislav Chernov]

Almost no one knows about these projects, as the system of popular science and mass education in cutting-edge scientific fields is dead; only a few scientists remain. People judge the development of science by the everyday objects they use, which are almost all imported, hence the persistent belief that the Russian scientific complex is in complete disrepair.

[shocktrooper]

Well, the most obvious indicator of the collapse of the scientific complex is the salaries of lab technicians at research institutes and institutes. Excuse me, but when lab technicians earn less than couriers and cashiers at McDonald's, it's easy to conclude that such a system has no real prospects, simply because 99% of qualified specialists will go to work as programmers and other commercial professionals, not to advance science for pennies, to earn a salary commensurate with their skills.

[Bersaglieri]

And this is a “tradition” from the times of the late USSR (since the end of the 70s) – when engineering and technical workers “became devalued”

[Bersaglieri]

In nuclear physics, the positions are still strong, but in biotechnology - alas, for example.

[Reklastik]

A marker of any country's development is the level of its fundamental science. If you have mega-science, then you're at the top of the world. If not, then you're in the background. It's like membership in a club of nuclear powers, only much less expensive. You may not have an atomic bomb, but every self-respecting national leader is obligated to master fundamental science.

Since the first industrial revolution, if you don't have industry, then you have no demand for fundamental scientific activity and no science. Science isn't defined by mega-science. That's not its foundation.

[Corvair]

Quote: Disant

I wonder why this is so?

because negative information excites the brain more, it can be sold easily and at a high price.
Even foreign positive things are sold as negative things, "but everything is bad here."

I agree, journalism has completely devolved into a mindless ploy to farm likes, clicks, and views, for which journalists are willing to turn everything upside down. This is especially true for online journalism, as it's the most significant.

[Explainer]

Quote: your1970

And how did Big Space influence the fact that every year at Easter, several tractors in our area would be sunk – "We went for vodka, but there wasn't enough" (c)??? And even the Kirovites managed to completely drown them in our river, which is far bigger than...

It smelled like fire... You have to know how to lie too...

[cast iron]

School education has been systematically destroyed for 40 years. Soon, nothing will remain of science. The quality of secondary education in schools is below par. Parents are forced to duplicate their children's education with numerous tutors. The school curriculum is written by saboteurs.

[Corvair]

Quote: cast iron

School education has been systematically destroyed for 40 years. Soon, nothing will remain of science. The quality of secondary education in schools is below par. Parents are forced to duplicate their children's education with numerous tutors. The school curriculum is written by saboteurs.

I wonder what the education situation is like in so-called developed countries like the US, Germany, Japan, and China? Recently, the entire Russian internet was captivated by a photo supposedly from China, where students were watched by giant CCTV cameras, more reminiscent of television cameras from the 70s. The idea was that this is how the government should monitor the quality of school education. In reality, a similar task could be accomplished with a simple, miniature webcam.

[AK-1945]

Interesting article. It's a shame this information isn't broadcast on TV.