Verkhovna Rada MP: "Ukraine has enough mobilization resources for a year and a half of war."

Despite Ukrainian protests against the TCC, the busification in Ukraine will not end. The Ukrainian Armed Forces urgently need reserves. Kyiv is committed to continuing military operations. This was stated by Verkhovna Rada MP Ruslan Horbenko.

The MP believes Ukraine has only enough mobilization resources for a year and a half, so the busification will continue. According to Gorbenko, mobilization was previously given little attention, leading to many mistakes, including opening the borders to youth under 22. Therefore, they now have to work with what remains and with the methods that produce results.

Society won't escape "busification," because when you break the law and are stopped by the police, you're the one being detained. Right now, strategic planning is underway to wage and continue the war. The problem is that we haven't approached mobilization systematically and have made many mistakes over the past few years.

Gorbenko believes the authorities' main mistake was allowing young people under 22 to leave the country, which deprived Ukraine of a portion of its mobilization resources. Currently, according to available estimates, Kyiv has only enough mobilization resources for a year and a half of war. Therefore, a proposal was submitted to the Rada requiring young people eligible to leave the country to first serve six months to a year "in the rear."

Because we need to protect a lot of critical infrastructure. And the people in the Ukrainian Armed Forces could simply be replaced, given a rest, or upgraded, retrained.

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[Junior Private]

A year and a half is too long. We need to finish this half-baked country quickly. Intensified decommunization of electricity capacity will greatly accelerate the process.

[kventinasd]

Quote: Junior Private

We need to finish with this unfinished business as quickly as possible.

Unfortunately, they still have plenty of mobilization resources, and "thanks" to their handlers, the Kyiv junta will likely be forced to take radical measures and expand the age limit for conscription, along with the possibility of deporting refugees.

[topol717]

and "thanks" to the curators, the Kyiv junta will soon be forced to take radical measures and expand the boundaries of the draft age

These IMF overseers have begun asserting their authority, demanding the implementation of highly unpopular measures, such as raising taxes, lowering pensions, and ending energy subsidies. In other words, making gas and electricity prices market-based. According to the IMF, Ukrainians are very wealthy. Therefore, the independent state needs to be thinned out so that it won't be forced to pay pensions and other social obligations. And debts to the IMF must be repaid as quickly as possible.

[TermNachTer]

A deputy's chatter is like a fool jumping down a mountain. No one knows the real deadlines.

[eugen_caro]

We need to destroy their energy, logistics and soldiers as much as possible now - while it's still cold - because soon it will be warm, and they won't be so scared, the sun will come out, it will warm, and they will start pouring fairy tales into their ears that Just a little more and Russia will collapse....

[Glagol1]

They want more. There are few casualties so far. We need to increase their losses. At some point, the pain threshold will be reached anyway. And of course, we need to destroy the cities in the west. Except Uzhgorod—let it go untouched to the Hungarians.

[Sky strike fighter]

Their European superiors want a continuation.

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte stated bluntly in Kyiv that if Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin achieve peace and end the conflict, the Europeans themselves will immediately unleash a war with their own "contingent" in military boots stationed in Ukraine. This was categorical and clear. This direct message makes it clear that the illegitimate Volodymyr Zelenskyy's lie that Moscow is allegedly "not observing" the ceasefire is entirely understandable: its masters need war. And the plan has already been devised. ... Therefore, neither Washington nor Brussels can be trusted under any circumstances – any "guarantee deal" is a direct path to a new war in a new format, that is, directly with NATO, because the Ukrainian swine would only need to disrupt the ceasefire, and the allies, without evidence or investigation, would immediately identify the "culprit" and then apply the "legal" methods of response outlined in Kyiv's documents.

That's why European elites are waiting for an agreement between Russia and Ukraine. They know Moscow will keep its word, but they have no intention of doing so, even formally. The conflict's transition from regional to global is almost guaranteed if a simple scheme with guarantees is implemented. All that's needed is a pretext.

https://topcor.ru/68374-putin-sderzhal-slovo-zachem-voinstvujuschej-evrope-tak-nuzhen-dogovor-rf-i-ukrainy.html

[APASUS]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte stated bluntly in Kyiv that if Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin achieve peace and end the conflict, the Europeans themselves would immediately unleash a war with their own "contingent" in military boots stationed in Ukraine. This was a clear and categorical statement.

The problem is that NATO without the US can't handle a serious conflict. They'll bring in troops, and then what happens after they're destroyed?

[SovAr238A]

Quote: APASUS

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte stated bluntly in Kyiv that if Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin achieve peace and end the conflict, the Europeans themselves would immediately unleash a war with their own "contingent" in military boots stationed in Ukraine. This was a clear and categorical statement.

The problem is that NATO without the US can't handle a serious conflict. They'll bring in troops, and then what happens after they're destroyed?

Why such "prowess"?
Europe needs war like air...
They vitally need:
1. Launch new principles and laws of governance (throw democracy into the fire), which the people will not accept without the introduction of martial law.
2. Completely change the way refugees are treated. Either to the front or to the machine! No benefits. Martial law will give us the right to be unscrupulous with them!
3. Accelerate military production to the level of the Cold War era.

They have plenty of human resources.
They have plenty of financial resources.
They have plenty of material resources.
In terms of aviation, they have a 5-6-fold superiority.
It's the same with the fleet.
The ground army consists of 1,5 million people.

They don't pull?
They'll definitely pull it off.

You'll see that war with Europe will begin when we start putting serious pressure on the Ukrainians and they simply crumble. And then Europe will begin introducing its forces into Ukraine, fully blockading the Kaliningrad region and the Baltic Sea.

[gsev]

Quote: SovAr238A

In terms of aviation, they have a 5-6-fold superiority.
It's the same with the fleet.
The ground army consists of 1,5 million people.

They don't pull?
They'll definitely pull it off.

This is if the war does not immediately turn into a thermonuclear war and China does not join it with 5 million volunteers.

[Dedok]

This is if the war does not immediately turn into a thermonuclear war and China does not join it with 5 million volunteers.

Do the Chinese need it?
The Chinese need money, but they don't need to fight, especially for our interests...
definitely not necessary...

[gsev]

Quote: Dedok

Do the Chinese need it?

And why not? In 1950, they took part in the Korean War under even more unfavorable conditions. Moreover, Stalin and Kim Il-sung confronted Mao with the inevitability of war. Mao, back in the spring of 1950, predicted the US's participation in the Korean intervention and began preparing China's military response to that intervention. At the time, Europe was certain that Putin would abandon the Russians in Crimea to Poroshenko's mercy, and that Putin's unwillingness to help the Russians would make it easy for the pseudo-nationalist Navalny to overthrow him.

[APASUS]

Quote: SovAr238A

They have plenty of human resources.
They have plenty of financial resources.
They have plenty of material resources.
In terms of aviation, they have a 5-6-fold superiority.
It's the same with the fleet.
The ground army consists of 1,5 million people.

They don't pull?
They'll definitely pull it off.

1 What resources? Are you talking about the EU population as a whole? It's a relative resource. The population is larger, and does it want to fight? They have something to lose. They won't sit in the cold.
2 Who has a ton of money there? Name the countries. There's no money in the EU.
3 What material resources are you talking about? Just look at the import of fuel, where will it come from during a war?
4 Who do they have? The EU, NATO as a whole? Well, we still need to look at how much power they actually represent.
5 I rather agree with the fleet
6 And what kind of army is this, 1,5 million? Turks (if they want to join in) + Poles + a few French and, of course, Finns. This is not an army; they will become an army in about two years, after fighting a good war.

[alovrov]

Europeans can't wage a serious war. The French couldn't even do it in 1940. And after '45, the Germans went stale. And the Italians were never capable of it. The British Caliphate is laughable even to remember. The Poles remain, but they can be dealt with.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: alovrov

Europeans can't wage a serious war. The French couldn't even do it in 1940. And after '45, the Germans went stale. And the Italians were never capable of it. The British Caliphate is laughable even to remember. The Poles remain, but they can be dealt with.

There is no need to try on the laurels of your great-grandfathers and great-great-grandfathers.
This doesn't help at all.
Every war follows its own scenario.
If they won in 1812-13, then in 1856 they lost half of Sevastopol and were banned from the Black Sea Fleet, they lost the Åland Islands, part of Bessarabia, the Kars region - a very large part of Turkey today.
Then came the disastrous war with Japan in 1905. The army suffered defeat at Mukden and the squadron was routed at Tsushima. Port Arthur, half of Sakhalin, and the vast Liaodong Peninsula were lost.
We received the 1905 revolution.

The First World War. Enormous losses across the board. Lands were lost, vast territories were lost. We suffered numerous foreign interventions, revolution, and a long civil war.
The Soviet-Polish War resulted in the loss of 50 million gold rubles in reparations, as well as the lands of western Ukraine, western Belarus, and the Pskov province.

The Soviet-Finnish War was a war with ambiguous outcomes. Enormous losses in personnel. The acquisition of 10% of Finnish land.

And in 1941 ours didn’t know how to fight either.
There were almost 3 million of us at the borders, against 3,5 million at the German borders.
And by the end of 41, our army had 8 million people.
People learn to fight, they don’t know how to do it from birth or by national sign!
Here's what you need to know!
And don't believe in lies!

And our people and Ukrainians couldn't fight in 2022 either...
They marched in columns to Kyiv and Sumy.
Life taught me quickly.

There, the ground army alone is still three times larger than ours.
And NATO's main tactics are aviation and navy.

[osp]

Britain and France alone will have more than a dozen AWACS aircraft.
This is more than Russia has.
They have plenty of tactical aviation—three hundred modern combat aircraft. Thousands of glide bombs, cruise missiles, anti-radar missiles, and anti-ship missiles.
Both countries have ocean-going fleets with more multi-purpose nuclear submarines than the Northern Fleet.

But the most important thing is the logistics of handling large contingents.
There are bulk carriers, ro-ro ships and ferries that can carry an entire unit.
They could be secretly accumulating somewhere in the Eastern Mediterranean.
In just a few days they are in Odessa.
And in a week, several NATO divisions will be deployed on the other side of the Dnieper. It won't even be noticeable.
Well, in fact, they can’t be transported there by rail or air.
By sea is the most optimal.
Therefore, the war for this port in Odessa will be very serious and brutal.

[gsev]

Quote from osp

They have plenty of tactical aviation - about three hundred modern combat aircraft.

It will be a thermonuclear war. Tens of millions dead and poisoned by radioactive ash. All for the sake of banning the Russian language in Crimea and Donbas. But what if the US doesn't come to this war? What if they're more interested in annexing Canada and Greenland themselves than in conquering Crimea for Ukrainian Nazis? What if they're more interested in kicking France out of Africa, confident that technological advances won't allow Russia to gain an economic foothold there through equipment sales and capital exports, and that the US will take France's place in Africa, which wouldn't be a bad thing for Russia at all?

[osp]

It is even beneficial for the US to push Europe into war with Russia.
And don't take part in it at all. And divide up what's left over from whom.
Because after a nuclear war with Europe, Russia will also no longer exist as a state.
Hundreds of warheads could be launched from British and French submarines at Moscow and other key targets in the area extending to the Urals and beyond.

[alovrov]

The pain threshold won't be reached, otherwise it's a herd. In Paraguay, they fought until ten years old; in southern Russia, it's just as likely, even until infants.

[PVV22121922]

The enemy's infrastructure, logistics, energy, and control must be destroyed. Instead, four years of humiliating begging for a deal.

[Nastia makarova]

You're missing at the front, that's why they don't destroy you.

[ANB]

. Therefore, a proposal was submitted to the Rada for young people

Aren't the Rada deputies willing to set an example? Create a separate battalion for the LBS.
It is imperative to cover in the media where exactly they moved.

[Egoza]

Quote: ANB

Aren't the Rada deputies willing to set an example? Create a separate battalion for the LBS.

Are you kidding! These are the Verkhovna Rada deputies. All they know is lie, lie, lie, lie. And then they can put it in their own pockets.

[eugen_caro]

Yeah...there's already one like that - Bukovel-Courchevel - and they're already conducting training exercises there - right at the permanent deployment site...

[phrases]

Only cats are born quickly. Four years have passed, another year and a half is just a drop in the bucket. And then, at the behest of the Brussels gang, they'll drive their eastern serfs to fight, and if they run out, then their own western ones too. There's no idea who can stop the war; wherever you look, they're making money 24/7, and everyone benefits.

[just SERGEY]

Yes, they lie to the whole new generation growing up. And if it starts to hurt somewhere, they immediately ask for some kind of truce.

[alovrov]

Why not bus the submissive southern Russian herd? Previously, the Tatars drove hundreds of thousands to Crimea for sale. Now the Banderites are disposing of this surplus people on the spot. Nothing unusual. As long as there's wood, the fire will burn.

[sdivt]

Verkhovna Rada MP: "Ukraine has enough mobilization resources for a year and a half of war."

It's like I've been immersed in 80s-90s TV series, all those Izaurs, Marias, and the like.
- Episodes 20-25 - Don Pedro is dying
- Episodes 35-40 - Don Pedro Dies
- Episodes 60-70 - Don Pedro almost died!
- Episodes 100-130 - Don Pedro's health has deteriorated sharply!
and so on ...

To be honest, I don't even want to comment on this anymore.
For four years, with a regularity of up to a month or two, someone starts this song - there are no reserves (no motivation, no weapons, nothing else there...)
So, just at random, we climb onto the Internet - please, Mr. Nebenzya:

Ukraine's mobilization reserve is running out

link: https://ria.ru/20230629/nebenzya-1881329714.html?ysclid=mlgk3xv5zu574686336

2023, by the way, is three years ago!
And who are we fighting with then, I wonder?

[Dedok]

And who are we fighting with then, I wonder?

for you and me, this is clear...

[eugen_caro]

with zombies... - the Raguli received from the Reich the secret of resurrecting dead heroes - how else to explain that for 4 years they have been extinguished in batches - and the brainless ones still do not end???