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The newest nuclear submarine with missile-torpedo weapons of the US Navy "Minnesota" SSN-783 successfully completed the first sea trials

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The newest nuclear submarine with missile-torpedo weapons (PLAT) SSN-783 "Minnesota" (Virginia-type 10-I PLAT) successfully completed the first sea trials. The PCB is built at the Huntington Ingalls Industries shipyard (Huntington Ingalls Industries, HII), where Minnesota (Minnesota) was built for almost 5 years, starting from its founding in February 2008.


During the tests, the plateau first performed scuba diving and developed high speeds both in surface and in submerged position. In the process of testing all the onboard systems and components of the boat were checked. Minnesota will conduct two more tests at sea, one of which will be representatives of the Inspection and Acceptance Commission for the US Navy INSURV (Board of Inspection and Survey). The transfer of the US Navy boat is expected at the end of the current month, 11-month ahead of the time specified in the contract.

The displacement of the Minnesota base plate, which is the final boat of the Virginia type in the “Block II” variant, is 7800 tons.

The construction program for the Virginia-type PCB was adopted instead of the SSN-21 program. In 1997, Newport News Shipbuilding received an order for the construction of boats of this type. The main SSN-774 “Virginia” platinum was put into operation in 2004. In October, the 2012 Platform (SSN-9 - 774) was built and 782 (SSN-9 - 783) is under construction. In total, the program is planned to build 791 PLATS. The cost of a serial ship is estimated at 30 billion dollars.

Virginia-type motherboards are designed to carry out independent operations against submarines and surface ships of the enemy, attack land targets using sea-based cruise missiles (SLCMs), provide anti-submarine defense (PLO) of warships and convoys, fight on communications with the aim of constraining transporting the enemy, covertly conducting special operations, including in shallow areas, etc.
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  1. il grand casino
    il grand casino 8 May 2013 13: 25 New
    20
    Need more Boreev ... need ...
    1. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 8 May 2013 13: 46 New
      +6
      We would have such a pace. They have a crisis, a big debt - the tanks lie, as they built and are building. And the fool is clear about preparing for a war with us!
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 8 May 2013 14: 19 New
        +8
        Quote: Ruslan_F38
        We would have such a pace.

        We would have such a pace
        TK-20 pr.941 "Shark" "Severstal" total displacement of 48 tons of factory number 000: January 727, 6-laying, July 1987 launch, September 1988, 4 adopted.
        And the fact that the Americans The displacement of the Minnesota BOATs, which is the final Virginia type boat in the Block II version, is 7800 tons. where the construction was carried out for almost 5 years, starting with its laying in February 2008and then just the beginning of the test is not so impressive.
        1. танк
          танк 8 May 2013 15: 02 New
          10
          examples from the 90s into the studio!
        2. patsantre
          patsantre 8 May 2013 15: 08 New
          0
          Not only VI is a problem, and it’s nothing that they rivet 9 boats at the same time? In the times of the ХV, they took 4 submarines a year, we, by the way, were not far behind.
          1. Canep
            Canep 8 May 2013 18: 20 New
            -3
            I hope she shares the fate of Thresher and Scorpio.
            1. Skuto
              Skuto 8 May 2013 21: 08 New
              0
              It is mean to wish submariners to die in peacetime! Would write the fate of SSN-689 "Baton Rouge", then yes.
            2. Skunk
              Skunk 9 May 2013 01: 13 New
              0
              You need to think with your head and not your ass, when you press the buttons on the computer, people are alive there ... And personally, they did nothing wrong to you.
              1. Skuto
                Skuto 9 May 2013 01: 33 New
                -2
                about that and a speech .... And in the cases of the "Baton Rouge", purely "iron" suffered, the boat went into decommissioning, but there were no casualties.
                1. Canep
                  Canep 9 May 2013 04: 01 New
                  0
                  Firstly, these living people voluntarily climbed into this boat and took control of the most powerful weapons directed against us, if the mujahideen is sending AKM at you, you are unlikely to wish him to have the machine bent, but just try to kill him. SSN-783 Minnesota is something more serious than AKM. Secondly, when the Kostroma and Baton Rouge collided, our boat also suffered and could share her fate or even die at all. What kind of liberal mood? One can regret its drowning only in terms of the danger of radioactive contamination of the ocean.
      2. Petrospek
        Petrospek 8 May 2013 14: 37 New
        +7
        They do not fight with raw material countries - it is not profitable, they are strangled economically.
      3. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 8 May 2013 14: 50 New
        +1
        Today, on the news I heard a report by the US Federal Reserve, they print $ 85 billion a month in money.
        OK yeah?
        1. individual
          individual 8 May 2013 21: 09 New
          -5
          All reserves of the Russian currency in the reserves of their banks. The Rothschilds allow for armaments, and the Rockefellers print $, $, $... Hand washes a hand. And Kudrinsky ideas live and prosper. There and Merkel with Co. got attached to their manage Europe, and along with our reserves.
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 8 May 2013 21: 33 New
            +1
            2/3 of the Russian financial reserve is located in Moscow - this is in foreign currency and in securities. Gold reserves of almost 80% in Moscow. The rest is scattered throughout the countries, starting from Tokyo and ending with Washington.
            1. Botanologist
              Botanologist 8 May 2013 22: 50 New
              0
              Quote: Lord of the Sith
              2 / 3 of the Russian financial reserve is located in Moscow - this is in currency and in securities


              And do not specify in which securities? And in what currency?
              This is me to the fact that the location of the securities is not an argument at all. From the arrival of McDonald's shares in Brazil or Tokyo, they are neither more expensive nor cheaper. They remain the shares of another country.
      4. Perchik
        Perchik 8 May 2013 14: 52 New
        -29
        Ruslan ... are you out of your mind at all ...? :)
        You live in the train of peace ... which the Americans do not need for nothing :)

        Oh and self-conceit among our citizens :)
        1. Aristarch
          Aristarch 8 May 2013 14: 56 New
          +9
          It seems that you are not in your own way, you are proud to call Russia F ..? Meanwhile, the whole world considers them, except for YOU, of course)) patriotic))
        2. Mizhgan
          Mizhgan 8 May 2013 14: 56 New
          0
          Well, how to look, someone lives in the train of the world, and someone in the recovering superpower, each has his own, and accordingly each has his own values.
        3. Mairos
          Mairos 8 May 2013 15: 45 New
          +1
          Our country is not the "ass of the world." Do not be rude, please.
    2. gispanec
      gispanec 8 May 2013 13: 50 New
      15
      Quote: il grand casino
      We need more Boreev ... necessary.

      boreas are the target for virginia .... need more ash trees !!!! ...
    3. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe 8 May 2013 14: 09 New
      +9
      Quote: il grand casino
      Need more Boreev ... need ...

      Minnesota - multipurpose nuclear submarines with cruise missiles, the tenth ship of its type (Virginia-class). Positioned as the 4 generation nuclear submarine. Domestic counterpart - PLARK ave. 885 "Ash" (at the same time, boats are very different in size, performance characteristics and purpose - a different concept for the use of the Navy)

      There was a mistake in the news source - USS Minnesota was laid on May 20 of 2011 of the year. The boat is built on a modular basis, so the metal cutting and the first counterparty deliveries began back in the 2008 year.

      NEWPORT NEWS, Va. (NNS) - The Navy celebrated the keel laying of Pre-Commissioning Unit Minnesota at Huntington Ingalls Industries - Newport News Shipbuilding (HII-NNS) in Newport News, Va., May 20.
      - Story Number: NNS110520-18Release Date: 5 / 20 / 2011 3: 09: 00 PM, of. US Navy website http://www.navy.mil/

      The ship has a modest range of working depths and speeds - based on the purpose of the submarine, the emphasis is on high-tech (detection tools) and stealth. In addition to the usual tasks (combating surface and underwater targets for naval communications, covering AUG and OBK, hunting an enemy SSBN), the underwater killer has clearly expressed abilities to participate in “low intensity” conflicts - 12 missile mines under the Tomahawk SLCM remotely controllable deep-sea vehicles, a lock chamber and external equipment for fur seals, advanced tracking systems (a video camera system instead of a conventional periscope - a retractable module with cameras, thermal imagers, a laser range finder), a new knees

      Bookmarking ceremony "Minnesota", 2011 year
      1. Aristarch
        Aristarch 8 May 2013 14: 38 New
        0
        In a word, to support revolutions, militants and the overthrow of unwanted states.
        1. Skunk
          Skunk 9 May 2013 01: 21 New
          -2
          Some kind of sore imagination.
      2. Kavtorang
        Kavtorang 8 May 2013 16: 45 New
        +2
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        remotely controlled deep-sea vehicles, airlock and external equipment for fur seals, advanced tracking systems (a camera system instead of a conventional periscope - a retractable module with cameras, thermal imagers, a laser range finder), a new generation of hulls

        Greetings! This good from their “Sea Wolves” migrated, and that - not to lose the good, if they already blind.
        I am not entertained by scanning and pasting pictures, but maybe you have some in stock: a photo from the optoelectronic periscope system for a polar bear who is thoughtfully studying the stern of Sea Wolf.
        1. Santa Fe
          Santa Fe 8 May 2013 16: 55 New
          +3
          Quote: Kavtorang
          photo from the optical-electronic periscope system on a polar bear who is thoughtfully studying the stern of Sea Wolf.

          Good day!

          It?
          1. Kavtorang
            Kavtorang 8 May 2013 17: 08 New
            0
            Yes, it is the most. I once saw the scouts - I remember hi
            Then he met already in the accessible magazine "T and B", but he still had not sorted out all his junk after moving. I remember that there is, but where recourse
      3. rolik
        rolik 8 May 2013 17: 39 New
        -1
        [quote = SWEET_SIXTEEN] [quote = il grand casino] Need more Boreev ... need ... [/ quote]
        Minnesota - Multipurpose nuclear submarines with cruise missiles, tenth ship.
        Boat, trimmed Sivulf. Cheaper option. Our Ash is a much more advanced and advanced product. From detection systems to stealth. Virginia had a very serious flaw. Soundproof coating, after about 2-3 years, begins to exfoliate and loses its properties. At the moment, this problem is still not completely resolved, boats go like a patchwork quilt :-). And yet, this boat went on the way even before the sequestration of the budget. It is not known whether the 11th boat, the keel of which was laid in the 12th year, will most likely not be completed.
        1. Kavtorang
          Kavtorang 8 May 2013 18: 15 New
          +5
          I beg of you! Every day I go to work and from work past 19 SLBMs. What do you need to take a photo about the state of coverage of these "black holes in the ocean" or believe it? And being in uniform, I only managed to rush to the boats of the 10th and 25th divisions. Tell you about the state of their coverage or you yourself guess, or just look for a photo?
          1. rolik
            rolik 8 May 2013 18: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: Kavtorang
            I beg of you! Every day I go to work and from work past 19 SLBMs. What do you need to take a photo about the state of coverage of these "black holes in the ocean" or believe it? And being in uniform, I only managed to rush to the boats of the 10th and 25th divisions. Tell you about the state of their coverage or you yourself guess, or just look for a photo?

            That I beg you. Passing EVERY morning through the checkpoint of Sevmash, I know very well what noise noise we have. By the way, I serve in an experimental laboratory. And believe me, I know what I'm talking about. And I advise you to moor more carefully so that the coating does not hit the wall. You minus.
            1. Kavtorang
              Kavtorang 8 May 2013 19: 38 New
              +3
              Quote: rolik
              Passing EVERY morning through the checkpoint of Sevmash, I know very well what noise noise we have. By the way, I serve in an experimental laboratory. And believe me, I know what I'm talking about. And I advise you to moor more carefully so that the coating does not hit the wall. You minus.

              I agree with you - the damned bastards on the Pacific Fleet specifically in Primorye and Kamchatka, bastards, moored so as to tear the cover. In the North, it’s just ideal — you know, seeing photos from the Federation Council sent to me by schoolmates .... including the latest boats. Maybe it's not about submariners, but in coverage?
              And don’t boast about Sevmash; I haven’t crawled out of Zvezda for 5 years. True, not in laboratory areas, but all on special works. And in the CPL, with which I constantly worked, like normal people are sitting. Ah, yes - your experience is the same. Well, there are always especially saints.
              1. rolik
                rolik 8 May 2013 19: 57 New
                0
                Quote: Kavtorang
                Quote: rolik
                Passing EVERY morning through the checkpoint of Sevmash, I know very well what noise noise we have. By the way, I serve in an experimental laboratory. And believe me, I know what I'm talking about. And I advise you to moor more carefully so that the coating does not hit the wall. You minus.

                I agree with you - the damned bastards on the Pacific Fleet specifically in Primorye and Kamchatka, bastards, moored so as to tear the cover. In the North, it’s just ideal — you know, seeing photos from the Federation Council sent to me by schoolmates .... including the latest boats. Maybe it's not about submariners, but in coverage?
                And don’t boast about Sevmash; I haven’t crawled out of Zvezda for 5 years. True, not in laboratory areas, but all on special works. And in the CPL, with which I constantly worked, like normal people are sitting. Ah, yes - your experience is the same. Well, there are always especially saints.

                It’s terribly not like working on a smartphone, the computer will not replace. On vacation, eight years was not. But this is lyrics, I apologize for the typos. Would you like the coating to serve its entire service life without buildup and overcooking? That would be cool, but unrealistic. Now tell me, is our coating flaking? or does it swell? And then what is mother in law is normal. Imagine, a new product has come to you, and during its operation, there’s no way out even in half of a garayanyka, it was about from the case to the metal. I haven’t seen this before. Also, I did not meet the separation of the pie into layers. And the fact that I’m not arbiting at Zvezdochka is a little different. But, I think, Kazakov is not particularly offended :-)
                And we have such a job, approvingly give everything that goes to the construction site. Up to screws, electrodes and cutting wheels.
                1. Kavtorang
                  Kavtorang 8 May 2013 20: 51 New
                  +3
                  So you would have begun with “approval” and explained that it was like that. The coating is stratified or it is swollen - what difference does it make to me? It is important for me that it is not something that does not fulfill its functions - it also falls in layers, when fingering. The boat came on a foreign visit to France, rubber blocks flew off, as after an air raid.
                  And again, I'm sorry, I am the last KDD K-116, look at its launch / commissioning / disposal dates. Our ancient coating was not in the worst condition than the coating of the now surviving diesel boats and nuclear powered ships that were in the factory.
                  So all the same, it’s not about submariners who don’t know how to moor.
                  1. rolik
                    rolik 8 May 2013 22: 47 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Kavtorang
                    flew off

                    The question is, what was the life of the boat when they visited the Gauls? I had nothing to do with diesels, this is more a question for Petrograd. Another question, when did the boat cover prophylaxis take, what year of visit is on a visit.
            2. Misantrop
              Misantrop 8 May 2013 20: 05 New
              +1
              Quote: rolik
              moor carefully so that the coating does not hit the wall

              By the way, along the sides we just had a normal coating. But in the upper third of the case, the sheets flew off. And it's not about mooring, but in single ice floats
              1. rolik
                rolik 8 May 2013 22: 59 New
                +1
                Quote: Misantrop
                Quote: rolik
                moor carefully so that the coating does not hit the wall

                By the way, along the sides we just had a normal coating. But in the upper third of the case, the sheets flew off. And it's not about mooring, but in single ice floats

                Quote: Misantrop
                Quote: rolik
                moor carefully so that the coating does not hit the wall

                By the way, along the sides we just had a normal coating. But in the upper third of the case, the sheets flew off. And it's not about mooring, but in single ice floats

                As for mooring, this is a bike. The Kavtorang understood this, but what about the ice floes ... I had to cook at the club with a hook so that he would push them away. And in warm waters, be sure to ensure that the water under the screws does not boil :-). But seriously, given all the factors affecting the aging and wear of materials. The boat, on top, would have to be poured with concrete.
        2. patsantre
          patsantre 8 May 2013 18: 26 New
          0
          The next batch of hat-making delirium by rolik. Where does the information about the detection systems and stealth come from? What are they expressed in? There are no such figures in the public domain and can not be. On the same Virginia a bunch of innovations are used, like an "electronic" mast and a reactor that does not need recharge. Ashes there is simply no data.

          Quote: rolik
          Soundproof coating, after about 2-3 years, begins to exfoliate and loses its properties. At the moment, this problem is still not completely resolved, boats go like a patchwork quilt :-).

          Don’t share a link to the source? Here our Ash-tree has been built for 20 years, and now it will not pass the test, for example.

          Quote: rolik
          It is not known whether the 11th boat, the keel of which was laid in the 12th year, will most likely not be completed.


          Only if you have a dream. If they reduced the air force’s flights, they said so. About the nuclear submarines there is no information, their budget has been cut from 600 to 500 roughly speaking, you think because of this they will suddenly stop building their main nuclear submarines , which in fact is one of their highest priority military programs?
          1. rolik
            rolik 8 May 2013 18: 44 New
            +1
            Quote: patsantre
            The next batch of hat-making delirium by rolik. Where does the information about the detection systems and stealth come from? What are they expressed in? There are no such figures in the public domain and can not be. On the same Virginia a bunch of innovations are used, like an "electronic" mast and a reactor that does not need recharge. Ashes there is simply no data.

            Quote: rolik
            Soundproof coating, after about 2-3 years, begins to exfoliate and loses its properties. At the moment, this problem is still not completely resolved, boats go like a patchwork quilt :-).

            Don’t share a link to the source? Here our Ash-tree has been built for 20 years, and now it will not pass the test, for example.

            Quote: rolik
            It is not known whether the 11th boat, the keel of which was laid in the 12th year, will most likely not be completed.


            Only if you have a dream. If they reduced the air force’s flights, they said so. About the nuclear submarines there is no information, their budget has been cut from 600 to 500 roughly speaking, you think because of this they will suddenly stop building their main nuclear submarines , which in fact is one of their highest priority military programs?

            I remember somehow proving to you your complete incompetence in the matter of our air missiles. But again, a person taking information on Wikipedia and advertising booklets begins to carry nonsense. The fleet of mattresses is also sequestered according to the budget, this information is available from available sources. TTX, of course, no one will personally give you and other visitors to the site, because you don’t have permission, and there won’t be. And if I give an info about the composition and thickness of the noise cover, and how to gum it. I’ll meet guys in strict gray suits very soon. About the other systems, I know a little less but also enough. And if you are tempted to visit Sevmash, come of course. That's just they will not let me pass further, and even I can’t make a pass for you. But walk along the fence, it is long (several km) and beautiful red.
            And once again I repeat study, study. And then you give the characteristics of Virginia declared in advertising with such words of thought, a new generation of advanced solutions. What new generation, what advanced solution ??? You are very similar to the meneger stepping vacuum cleaners to gullible people.
            But especially "the reactor does not need recharging." Dude reactor reboot
            1. patsantre
              patsantre 8 May 2013 20: 13 New
              -3
              All that you proved there is that your head stubbornly refuses to digest facts and perceive any information that is not compatible with your opinion. Does the Navy sequestrate, did I argue with this? Somewhere it was written that this project was sequestered? And that the series is completely falls under a knife? No? So your next stupid bike.
              Of course, I doubt that you really work at Sevmash, but even so, you still have accurate data on Amer submarines, what can you compare them with ours?
              Quote: rolik
              And once again I repeat study, study. And then you give the characteristics of Virginia declared in advertising with such words of thought, a new generation of advanced solutions. What new generation, what advanced solution ???


              First show where I said about generations and characteristics?

              Once again, is there a link to a site that says about problems with Virginia soundproofing?
              Like last time, there are no facts or clever thoughts on your part, only stupid vysers about advertising and Wikipedia, which by the way have been gone for six months. In general, for general development, the site is not bad at all, it will be just right for you right now .
              1. rolik
                rolik 8 May 2013 22: 39 New
                0
                I work, I work. Unlike you, I do not sell vacuum cleaners. As I wrote above, now I am writing on smart. When I get to a normal computer, I can cite as an example Old about the "reliability" of Virginia coverage. Only unfortunately for you it will again be wasted. Since, even with the above characteristics and schemes, you will persistently bleat about your own. We have already passed this, I recall, a memorable polemic about missiles, where there were technical characteristics and drawings. But all this turned out to be bullshit for you, in comparison with the brochures of mattresses.
                1. patsantre
                  patsantre 8 May 2013 23: 14 New
                  -2
                  Well, yes, only you, like last time, until you brought a single significant fact, figures or something else, your patriotic vysers are no better than the advertising bleating of amers. And by the way, in what place did I bleat about my place? he just noticed that your stupid vyser was nothing more than a stupid vyser, and suggested that he argue, though he hasn’t received anything besides the next portion of stupid vysers.
    4. krokodil25
      krokodil25 8 May 2013 14: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: il grand casino
      Need more Boreev ... need ...

      It is necessary Boreev and Yasekney the more the better
      1. Waterfall
        Waterfall 8 May 2013 16: 50 New
        -10
        Ash - piece fuderwafle, a little sense from them. Especially considering their secondary GAP and RPC firing ranges.
        1. rolik
          rolik 8 May 2013 17: 46 New
          +5
          Quote: Wasserfall
          Ash - piece fuderwafle, a little sense from them. Especially considering their secondary GAP and RPC firing ranges.

          Of course, I understand that it’s very hot someone's say. But sometimes it’s better to keep silent than to carry complete shit.
    5. APASUS
      APASUS 8 May 2013 18: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: il grand casino
      Need more Boreev ... need ...

      Not just Boreev, but a set of Boreas + Mace!
      They were able to take the missile into service, but it still has not passed all the tests. In the USSR, missiles of this type were received only after 30..40 launches of which the last 100% salvo should have been successful, but so far how many were there? and were there salvo launches? But what if in the fall the Bulava fails again?
    6. Botanologist
      Botanologist 8 May 2013 22: 47 New
      0
      Quote: il grand casino
      Need more boreev


      Rather, Ash. Borea only carries the “Mace", and Ash is just the rival of this thing. Well, diesel-electric submarines are also very useful in our territorial waters.
    7. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 9 May 2013 03: 54 New
      0
      LAUNCH DEEPER-ON THE BOTTOM-TRUE COURSE OF THE LORD.
  2. elmir15
    elmir15 8 May 2013 13: 26 New
    +9
    Amer with his printing press can afford to rivet any quantities of boats and other weapons, everything will not calm down
    1. patsantre
      patsantre 8 May 2013 15: 11 New
      -3
      They can’t. Otherwise there would be no debt, no sequestration, and how can high-tech equipment be obtained from simple pieces of paper?
      1. Mizhgan
        Mizhgan 8 May 2013 15: 24 New
        0
        Elementary ... Search in the search engine "how the dollar has become a world currency" ...
      2. elmir15
        elmir15 8 May 2013 23: 40 New
        +4
        Quote: patsantre
        and how from simple pieces of paper can high-tech equipment be obtained?

        And do you think high-tech equipment is created without money, without these pieces of paper? Engineers, workers and other hard workers for free build high-tech equipment? Without these pieces of paper, no one now works and does not create technology for nothing.
    2. timurpl
      timurpl 8 May 2013 15: 48 New
      -2
      The transfer of the boat to the US Navy is expected at the end of this month, ...
      - We wish the comrades 7 pounds of TNT under the keel!
      1. vadson
        vadson 8 May 2013 18: 35 New
        -2
        7lbs is not enough, here are the pounds
  3. krokodil25
    krokodil25 8 May 2013 13: 30 New
    +4
    The newest nuclear submarine with missile-torpedo weapons of the US Navy "Minnesota" SSN-783 successfully completed the first sea trials
    Where are our ash trees? URGENTLY NEED ASHERS !!!! laughing
    1. vadson
      vadson 8 May 2013 18: 36 New
      +1
      at least continued the cat series
  4. Trailer
    Trailer 8 May 2013 13: 30 New
    0
    Here it is - nuclear parity.
    1. Aristarch
      Aristarch 8 May 2013 14: 33 New
      -12
      It is not strategic in this regard, as well as any of our PLC-watchdogs will do it in two parts without straining.
      1. buga1979
        buga1979 8 May 2013 16: 12 New
        +1
        here Toko is not necessary so here not stupid people are going and 9 minuses to that is a simple example, we know that it’s not so accidentally not one of these? ps: wrong clicked plus put ok then minuson
        1. Aristarch
          Aristarch 8 May 2013 21: 55 New
          0
          not one of these, maybe you yourself will find a definition of what is strategic? multi-purpose yes, I am also worried that they are building up their potential.
  5. Vtel
    Vtel 8 May 2013 13: 39 New
    +5
    I wish Zero feet under the keel!
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 8 May 2013 13: 44 New
      +6
      Quote: Vtel
      I wish Zero feet under the keel!

      Better 10000 feet above the wheelhouse. wink
      1. Drednout
        Drednout 8 May 2013 14: 32 New
        +7
        Quote: Vtel
        I wish Zero feet under the keel!

        Quote: Vladimirets
        Quote: Vtel
        I wish Zero feet under the keel!

        Better 10000 feet above the wheelhouse. wink

        Kind you! lol
        C'mon, they are people too!
        Good luck to the sailors themselves, but for now ....
        1. vadson
          vadson 8 May 2013 18: 39 New
          -1
          if they hadn’t bombed banana republics with tomahawks then let them go, but they’re just killers of defenseless people who cannot answer
  6. Misantrop
    Misantrop 8 May 2013 13: 51 New
    +3
    Pay attention to the construction time. 5 years. And this despite the fact that they did not have perestroika with the collapse of the economy, as well as problems with financing ... what
    Now it remains only to wait for her performance characteristics. I’m all waiting for when its underwater speed will exceed 100 knots (with the power of a power plant in a pair of flashlights), and the working depth will exceed the depth of the Mariana Trench. Apparently, if not this, then the next one is for sure. And the HAC is probably capable of listening to the entire world ocean directly from the assembly shop. It’s not in vain that they have been building so many years laughing
    1. Mizhgan
      Mizhgan 8 May 2013 14: 34 New
      10
      Well, after three months, the TTX will be announced, very impressive, according to Discovery, there are no analogues, it easily overtakes its own torpedoes both above and below the water, and if you bring it to maximum power, and bring the horizontal steering wheels of the submarine slightly above the horizon, then The submarine is capable of moving like an ekranoplan, but such tests are planned for the end of 2013: D
      1. Retx
        Retx 8 May 2013 14: 44 New
        +5
        CSO belay Is it capable of docking with the ISS?
        1. Aristarch
          Aristarch 8 May 2013 14: 52 New
          -2
          these tests are planned by the end of the year, when a rocket engine is fastened to it for flight to Mars.
        2. APOCALIPTIC
          APOCALIPTIC 8 May 2013 21: 13 New
          -3
          Quote: RETX
          CSO belay Is it capable of docking with the ISS?

          Of course, the Pacific Ocean there is someone a whole group of satellites lying around laughing
          1. Aristarch
            Aristarch 8 May 2013 21: 57 New
            +1
            and this in no way affects the parity in nuclear weapons and our capabilities)) lol
      2. NOBODY EXCEPT US
        NOBODY EXCEPT US 8 May 2013 19: 07 New
        +1
        They study with us .... didn’t they notice? .... Or can you see the logs in your eye?
    2. patsantre
      patsantre 8 May 2013 15: 12 New
      0
      Now pay attention to how many of them are being built at the same time.
  7. Stiletto
    Stiletto 8 May 2013 13: 52 New
    14
    Here, by the way, what good news should be from the point of view of presentation, about the rearmament of our armed forces. Not "by 2000 and some year there they will" receive "," go into service "," will appear "," will begin to enter the army "and other blah blah blah with the subsequent lengthening of terms and a decrease in the number of units of the promised equipment , and so, everyday, and moreover, ahead of schedule by almost a year.
    We have the same promised Ashen and Boreev waiting for as long as I can remember. Do not forget to feed us with promises for our enthusiastic "Hurray."
  8. vitas
    vitas 8 May 2013 13: 59 New
    -2
    3 Borea has already been built, 2 laid, it seems they are going to release 8-12 pieces.
    1. Stiletto
      Stiletto 8 May 2013 14: 11 New
      +5
      It is necessary to let out, but not to gather.
      1. viktorR
        viktorR 8 May 2013 17: 43 New
        0
        Of course, of course, I’ll go hurry them, and then the ishs there relaxed in Severodvinsk !!! Stiletto is indignant! And they understand there they are building boats not as fast as he wants!

        But seriously. most recently, these same factories did not do anything except titanium shovels and shocks from stainless steel. And you know this no worse than me. Breaking does not build.
      2. rolik
        rolik 8 May 2013 17: 58 New
        +2
        Quote: Stiletto
        It is necessary to let out, but not to gather.

        And we would have already released a hundred units long ago, if bl .... all sorts of reformers didn’t climb under the blades. We just started to accelerate recently, we hope that the next "bright head with an inquiring" mind will not want to carry out any next modernization. Even with these Indians and their Vicaromidia flew in, bookkeepers are shaggy. They talked about decent money, so I wanted to grab this contract that already enchanted. And when they did almost, they looked, and there were accumulated debts. Now, again, hope for GDP may help in solving this crap. Here is a dowry from our previous leadership.
  9. DPN
    DPN 8 May 2013 14: 04 New
    +4
    Well done states work according to plan. that is, they took the best from the USSR. Only he could prematurely produce such products. There you have the market economy. 11 months ahead of schedule. It seems that they do not give stealing state money.
    Of course, for us, there is nothing good in this boat in Russia, the Moremans will have to keep their ears sharp so as not to fall under the ram. Russia just needs a naval base near the states, we cannot catch them in the number of boats. On the other hand, we have almost caught up with the number of billionaires.
    1. Misantrop
      Misantrop 8 May 2013 14: 25 New
      +6
      Quote: DPN
      Russia simply needs a naval base in the vicinity of the states, we cannot catch them in the number of boats. On the other hand, we have almost caught up with the number of billionaires.
      Now it remains only to show political will. So that these billionaires will either buy a pair of bases for the Navy for the United States, or set up nuclear submarines for their own. In case of refusal - to give them the opportunity to provide the entire Navy with mittens hand-sewn laughing
    2. vitas
      vitas 8 May 2013 15: 26 New
      0
      You think that the states do not steal state money ahahahah, but they steal more than ours, because the grandmothers are spinning a lot, they just learned how to do everything with a minimal fawn over their long history.
      1. Mizhgan
        Mizhgan 8 May 2013 15: 35 New
        0
        There they steal in such volumes that even we never dreamed of ... Democracy ...
        1. knn54
          knn54 8 May 2013 23: 41 New
          +1
          Mijgan: They steal there in such volumes that even we never dreamed of ... Democracy ...
          I repeat. They first carry out orders, and then divide. We immediately get torn, and the rest, what happens.
          Aristarchus: I wonder who will serve on it, already half of the states have approved gay marriage.
          There will be a family contract ...
  10. Aristarch
    Aristarch 8 May 2013 14: 22 New
    -1
    I wonder who will serve on it, already half of the states approved same sex marriages)) Although they have a way out, hire the Chinese)))
    1. Mizhgan
      Mizhgan 8 May 2013 14: 39 New
      +2
      The Chinese will only be in favor. They will serve not only “honorable”, but also “mutually beneficial”, they will not even need to serve on this type of nuclear submarines ... True, a couple of boats may get lost in the vast oceans. ; D
      1. Aristarch
        Aristarch 8 May 2013 14: 42 New
        0
        That's great, it remains to find out whether the Americans agree.
    2. Serov
      Serov 8 May 2013 14: 41 New
      0
      it will be a blue submarine)))
      1. Aristarch
        Aristarch 8 May 2013 14: 44 New
        0
        and pink, but imagine such moored ones.
    3. eretik
      eretik 8 May 2013 14: 43 New
      +1
      Like anyone, same-sex couples, they will have two-room cabins with ruffles on the windows.
  11. mnbv199
    mnbv199 8 May 2013 14: 42 New
    +3
    MOSCOW, May 8 - RIA Novosti. The U.S. Air Force command removed 17 officers responsible for launching intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) from service due to unsatisfactory results of the combat readiness test, the Associated Press reported on Wednesday.

    A check conducted in April of this year by officers of 91 missile wings deployed at the Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota showed that the military was completely unprepared to prepare and launch Miniteman-3 intercontinental ballistic missiles in combat conditions.

    “We, and this is a fact, are in a critical situation,” the unit’s commander Lt. Col. Jay Folds said in an email for internal use, a copy of which was available to the Associated Press. The letter, in particular, indicates that an atmosphere of indifference and mutual responsibility reigns in the unit, and that at least one case of gross violation of safety rules when dealing with missile weapons was recorded.

    For the US Air Force, the case of the removal from service of 17 officers at once is unprecedented in mass. However, according to the Associated Press, the US Air Force command officially stated that the results of the audit were "successful", as it ultimately managed to increase the combat effectiveness of the unit.

    Officers of the 91st rocket wing take up combat duty in special underground bunkers and are in pairs for XNUMX hours in readiness, by order of the US president, to strike anywhere in the world. The possibility of using the most dangerous ground-based ballistic missiles for the enemy directly depends on the coherence and organization of their actions.
    http://m.ria.ru/world/20130508/936467224.html
    1. Aristarch
      Aristarch 8 May 2013 14: 48 New
      +1
      The good news, degradation in person, it remains only to withdraw their nuclear weapons from circulation, so that, God forbid, nothing happens, they themselves apparently will not cope.
    2. Mizhgan
      Mizhgan 8 May 2013 14: 52 New
      +2
      I think that the next “duck” is not the matter of the officers, but of the Minuteman-3 missiles, but the dismissal of an officer who acts according to the instructions, despite the fact that the armament does not require practical - uh, how can I say this? physical guidance on the target - the question arises, what do the officers have to do with it ?.
  12. kobussubok
    kobussubok 8 May 2013 14: 42 New
    0
    I wonder where they were in such a hurry that they built a whole year ahead of schedule? For another war? Or is it the beginning of financing difficulties ... and decided to understaff and not tighten any nuts ... and put it into the water faster?
  13. WIN969
    WIN969 8 May 2013 14: 46 New
    -6
    Amer never knew how to make a nuclear submarine, history is an example.
    1. Waterfall
      Waterfall 8 May 2013 16: 52 New
      -8
      And who was able? The Soviet submarine with unparalleled two-shell cripples is not necessary.
    2. patsantre
      patsantre 8 May 2013 18: 29 New
      +3
      What is an example from history, and what is wrong with their nuclear submarines? Just to leave a silly vyser.
  14. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 8 May 2013 14: 49 New
    +1
    Quote: Misantrop

    Now it remains only to wait for her performance characteristics. laughing


    The Minnesota have the same performance characteristics as the Virginia. You can look on the Internet. And the Americans gained a good pace - they introduce one or two boats of this type each year. Groped a normal project and driven. We will build our 10 Ash-trees by 2025. The "Ash-tree" is a good thing - multi-purpose, unparalleled, the best in the world. There is only one drawback - it’s painfully expensive. The Americans also began to build omnipotent submarines - Sea Wolves. But when they considered what this building would pour into them, they burst into tears. They built only 3 units and switched (were not afraid) to a new type. We couldn’t do this, and instead of a cheap, but universal series of boats, we build expensive Ash-trees
    1. patsantre
      patsantre 8 May 2013 15: 18 New
      +1
      They are not very expensive, more than 2 times cheaper than sivulfa.
    2. Mizhgan
      Mizhgan 8 May 2013 15: 32 New
      0
      Try to compare with consumer goods .... Or three pairs of sneakers in two years, or one, but high-quality (and expensive) for four, and even five for repairs ... An example is very remarkable ...; D
    3. Misantrop
      Misantrop 8 May 2013 15: 56 New
      +4
      Quote: VohaAhov
      The Minnesota have the same performance characteristics as the Virginia. You can look on the Internet.

      Yeah, on the Internet. wassat On the fence, and more precisely, data can be found, even if EVERYTHING that is written there is considered to be true. The declared capacity of the installation is enough only to ensure the operation of the galley, the refrigeration machine and the turbogenerator. There is NOTHING left for running turbines. Despite the fact that the speed (according to their data) has already come close to the 705 project (compare the displacement, contours and power of the nuclear weapons of these projects). Do they have an efficiency of more than 400%? belay lol And the working depths of immersion are growing every year, even among the most ancient. This is despite the fact that in the sea I did not hear from anyone that someone would meet the American deeper than 100 m
      They built only 3 units and switched (were not afraid) to a new type. We couldn’t do this, and instead of a cheap, but universal series of boats, we build expensive Ash-trees
      Something reminds me of it ... what Is it just my glitch or ... F-22 Raptor and F-35 laughing
      1. Mizhgan
        Mizhgan 8 May 2013 16: 01 New
        +4
        Yes, you obviously do not watch "DISCOVERY"! There, nevertheless, it is painted on the shelves ... And how and what and why, are "ahead of the rest", but the Russian Federation is even behind ...
        1. Misantrop
          Misantrop 8 May 2013 16: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: Mijgan
          Yes, you obviously do not watch "DISCOVERY"!
          What to do, well, I do not like squeamish clowns request I look sometimes if Zadornov is no longer laughing lol
          1. Mizhgan
            Mizhgan 8 May 2013 16: 13 New
            0
            But I sometimes look ... To watch the clowning, neighing, and the son looks at this circus and draws the right conclusions !!!!!!!
    4. Retx
      Retx 8 May 2013 18: 05 New
      0
      Quote: VohaAhov
      it hurts so dear

      Expensive? With all the white and fluffy, it cost 47 billion rubles! Yes, I’m cheaper than the yuritan Astute, which cost the crown such a LITTLE ...
    5. rolik
      rolik 8 May 2013 18: 21 New
      -1
      Quote: VohaAhov
      Quote: Misantrop

      Now it remains only to wait for her performance characteristics. laughing


      The Minnesota have the same performance characteristics as the Virginia. You can look on the Internet. And the Americans gained a good pace - they introduce one or two boats of this type each year. Groped a normal project and driven. We will build our 10 Ash-trees by 2025. The "Ash-tree" is a good thing - multi-purpose, unparalleled, the best in the world. There is only one drawback - it’s painfully expensive. The Americans also began to build omnipotent submarines - Sea Wolves. But when they considered what this building would pour into them, they burst into tears. They built only 3 units and switched (were not afraid) to a new type. We couldn’t do this, and instead of a cheap, but universal series of boats, we build expensive Ash-trees

      It is normal for the price. It's all in the state, the main thing is that there should be no sharp wobbles. And then, God forbid, another Taburetkin will come, and the little fluffy beast will come to visit, the scribe is called. And for mattresses, the costs of these boats have not yet ended after they were built. Dumka must be changed regularly, it puffs and defends, with a propulsion system, there is also a certain hemorrhage. Our Ash, in this regard, is a finished product and more perfect, even for money.
  15. avant-garde
    avant-garde 8 May 2013 15: 03 New
    -1
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, this is my tantrum. And now common sense, and what ???? We now kill the wall ???
    1. Mizhgan
      Mizhgan 8 May 2013 15: 17 New
      +3
      Take your time, take with you first the maximum number of enemies of the Motherland ...; D.
      The descendants will be grateful to you.
    2. individual
      individual 8 May 2013 21: 23 New
      +1
      In such a situation, at first I was the commander, and then I told my subordinates: "learn the materiel"! It helps.
  16. Kavtorang
    Kavtorang 8 May 2013 16: 33 New
    +5
    Ugh, damn it! It's about most of the comments.
    And let’s We collectively go into an orgasm when entering the MRAK in the Caspian Sea and to the city ... we will disengage from the news about the construction or commissioning of some felucca not our Navy.
    Not many people could understand the meaning of the article, evaluate the performance characteristics of the project in relation to its tasks, the implementation of the construction program is even less. In general, the units know that having built natural Sea Cruis supercruisers, having estimated their cost and the presence of an opponent for them, the Americans scratched their turnips, spat on it and made a budget option - Virginia. Another nuance - this is the second series. Check out Arly Burkes and their series. You can without leaving the site.
    With us, with the stubbornness of a donkey, they yell about "Ash-tree" and we will build "Ash-tree" until muster, nevermind that the boats are TEN !!! years on the slipways.
    I am waiting for the "minuses" from the pack, sort of like patriots.
    1. Misantrop
      Misantrop 8 May 2013 17: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: Kavtorang
      evaluate the performance characteristics of the project
      Do not tell me HOW to evaluate them, if almost EVERYWHERE instead of TTX there is a frank LIE with insolent PR mixed up?
      1. Kavtorang
        Kavtorang 8 May 2013 17: 41 New
        +2
        Quote: Misantrop
        Do not tell me HOW to evaluate them, if almost EVERYWHERE instead of TTX there is a frank LIE with insolent PR mixed up?

        Try the method “on the contrary” - from the performance characteristics of the last 971-B and the last series of “Los Angeles”, adjusted for common sense. About “Ash”, so far, it makes no sense to speak.
        If you have already been a military officer for a long time or soon lose the relevance of information (as I am a newly-made military officer) - only your knowledge and common sense. IMHO, but samovarovo-steam locomotives during our life with you will not appear.
        1. Misantrop
          Misantrop 8 May 2013 19: 46 New
          +2
          Quote: Kavtorang
          Try the method “on the contrary” - from the performance characteristics of the last 971-B and the last series of “Los Angeles”, adjusted for common sense.
          I tried it. More than threefold in "Elk" the parameters are overestimated. Well, I understand there to ascribe 15-25% of real up, but SO? belay Or are they hoping to intimidate everyone with their prodigies in advance? I myself have already left quite a while, but I try to keep in touch with those who are in the ranks to this day. Or after leaving the fleet, he moved to the appropriate structures
    2. xtur
      xtur 8 May 2013 20: 07 New
      0
      Well, instead of such a long post, you would just give a concrete example for Ashen, why it is expensive and why it is nothing.

      Threat. For some reason, it seems to me that building a turbine that is unattended during its lifetime, as at Yasen, is no easier than building a spaceship. This is the industry going to a whole new technological level.
  17. rudolff
    rudolff 8 May 2013 16: 55 New
    +3
    Misantrop, this is not a glitch! This analogy also occurred to me. At first they create something super-modern and super-stuffed, then comes the understanding that the output is something insanely expensive and with dubious substantial superiority! Then the program is quietly curtailed and launched into production which is simpler. So it was with Comanche, when it turned out that for the same money you can buy a couple of Apaches in the long-bow version and which are not much inferior in combat capabilities to the latest “Indian”. The program was closed without starting serial production. So it was with the F-22 Raptor, which was supposed to be a replacement for heavy fighters. Production was closed by releasing less than two hundred cars, including pre-production ones. The same story with Sivulf. Even for the Americans, this ship was too expensive. That's why Virginia appeared. By the way, it seems we are trying to step on the same rake! Everyone understands that the "circulation" of the T-50 will be very limited and it will never become massive, but no one bothered to develop a lighter and cheaper version of such a fighter. With Yasen (a direct analogue of Sivulf), the situation is generally not funny. God forbid, if they master several pieces. That the program will be covered under some plausible pretext is already obvious. We need a project like Virginia, or advanced Pike-B! It is a pity that no one thinks about it. Or maybe they don’t want to. The more expensive the project, the more "cut."
    1. Misantrop
      Misantrop 8 May 2013 17: 29 New
      +2
      Alas, I didn’t hear the best reviews about Ash. It is from those who are really tied to them. So the series is likely to be not great. But then there was information about the beginning of the development of a really new generation (and not the stupid distortion of dubious American "advantages")
      1. patsantre
        patsantre 8 May 2013 18: 32 New
        0
        And you can find out what exactly is wrong with him?
    2. Know-nothing
      Know-nothing 8 May 2013 20: 14 New
      0
      The Comanche is the same brainchild of the Cold War as the F-22. A specialized machine for reconnaissance and shooting of (Soviet) military air defense, but in modern conditions is not too necessary. By the way, a number of Comanche systems went to AH-64E.
  18. mabuta
    mabuta 8 May 2013 17: 06 New
    +1
    In my opinion, everything goes to a preventive war. Somewhere there was infa: for the complete collapse of the Russian economy, the destruction of 12 strategic facilities in our territory is enough - and most of them are located in the North of the country, but how is the North closed ...? Even a couple of Yusov’s submarines, according to 174 pieces of cruise missiles, will be enough (I exaggerate). Neither missile defense nor air defense can be pulled, but to use nuclear weapons - here "eggs" are needed.
    1. Kavtorang
      Kavtorang 8 May 2013 17: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: mabuta
      Even a pair of Yusov’s submarines, 174 each of cruise missiles, will be enough (I exaggerate)

      Unfortunately, do not exaggerate, but do not take into account the specifics of the consequences of such a volley. The number of SLCMs there can "float" - any mine can accept all the "shmurdyaki" of special forces, but this is not the point.
      Taking into account the ability to make critical decisions and the overall quality of the current political leadership of the state, IMHO, of course - you may be absolutely right.
      1. patsantre
        patsantre 8 May 2013 18: 34 New
        0
        It seems like there are 2 shmurdyakovs for the crewman, and KR 154. Even if all this is modulated, it’s clear to hell that for a preventive strike they will hammer the KPs to the eyeballs, is there special forces there?
        1. Kavtorang
          Kavtorang 8 May 2013 19: 39 New
          0
          Do you think this is important - how many will fly even from two boats? Yes, even a dozen. Further, our military doctrine should work out, but it actually is not. What is is notes of a madman. Well, read it yourself, tea is not a secret or rare information.
  19. mabuta
    mabuta 8 May 2013 18: 33 New
    +1
    Off topic (a little bit). My article killed about MIG-31, some people don’t count their money, others make excuses, others 41. remember (you can rivet the plate even faster), this is not an option + 300 pieces of aircraft for all of our km., Not an option.
  20. Oleg Rosskiyy
    Oleg Rosskiyy 8 May 2013 21: 29 New
    0
    The eternal minietes-saute pier and unbearable ballast.
  21. CAMS
    CAMS 9 May 2013 01: 52 New
    0
    By the way, the Germans asked to give back their gold, and the amers said that: we do not have your gold
  22. regsSSSR
    regsSSSR 9 May 2013 02: 44 New
    0
    NOTHING anything !! maybe ours will slowly improve everything with the boats, at least to this, it seems like everything while it moves would not jinx it)! and we will all the same hope that the farther the finances, the amers will get worse and worse and this will be their last boat. in general, of course, sharks would be inconceivably sorry for the shas to swim quietly and peacefully and scare the Americans, and new ones would slowly come up from the canveyer and everything on the planet would be decorous and calm! after all, there were no reptiles with III saws, let alone a hundred times to say all the same eh okay.