Military supplies from Russia and China are arriving in Iran.

According to several sources, amid US-fueled tensions around Iran, military supplies from China and Russia are actively arriving in the Islamic Republic. Chinese military supplies are being delivered both by air on military transport aircraft and by land via Pakistan. At the same time, at least four Russian transport aircraft have arrived in Iran in recent days: three An-124-100s and a special Il-76TD aircraft. Emergency logistics of this scale indicate the transfer of critical technologies or heavy weaponry.

At the same time, it is clear that Beijing and Moscow have no interest in the US succeeding in regime change in Tehran, since the loss of Iran would not only be a serious blow to the entire BRICS structure, but would also have an extremely negative impact on China's Belt and Road Initiative.

Thus, it can be noted that, theoretically, Russia and China are capable of exerting a very significant influence on the situation around Iran, cooling the belligerent ardor of the United States and Israel. Through joint efforts, Russia and China, using relatively modest resources, could establish a first- and second-tier air defense "dome" over Iran, effectively establishing a no-fly zone in the region.

At the same time, Chinese satellite imagery shows an increase in the number of Patriot and NASAMS launchers at the US-operated Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar. A large number of American transport and refueling aircraft are currently arriving in the region.

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[Arkady007]

What is important here is not even the weapons themselves, but the fact of support for Iran in opposition to the United States.
It seems that Donya is having days when he has to think first and only then speak.

[TermNachTer]

The author also forgot to mention the railway from China to Iran, via Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. Railroads can transport many times more goods than planes or trucks.

[hagen]

Quote: TermNachTER

The author also forgot to mention the railway from China to Iran, through Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan.

The Americans would crush both the Uzbeks and the Kazakhs in the blink of an eye, and they would block all the roads to Iran, which is under their jurisdiction. So I wouldn't count on that railway. But a sea route across the Caspian to Bandar Abbas, and then an internal railway to Tehran—that's a different matter. But they used air power, so time is of the essence... I wonder if our people don't want to test Bastion against real targets?

[Grits]

Quote: Hagen

I wonder if our Bastion doesn't want to be tested on real targets?

That would be very nice. Bastion is exactly what the Persians need right now. As is air defense. But that's more complicated – we desperately need it ourselves right now.

[Luenkov]

Are the bastions gone? I don't think so. And it's more necessary to hit them there, loudly. So loud that it bubbles.

[TermNachTer]

This didn't happen during the Jewish-Persian War—trains ran and carried everything they needed. I think they still do. A train transports an average of 3600 tons of cargo. Three to four trains a day—the main thing was that the Persians had the capacity to quickly unload and distribute the goods.

[Luenkov]

They wouldn't have torn up the road. Accepting the cargo is also a whole other matter.

[Askold65]

Quote: Hagen

The Americans would crush both the Uzbeks and the Kazakhs in the blink of an eye, and they would block all the roads to Iran, which is under their jurisdiction. So I wouldn't bet on that railway.

These countries are landlocked and practically surrounded by Russia, Iran, and China. For such a stunt, these countries will cut off EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING.

[TermNachTer]

And if you consider China's capital investments in the economies of Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, the figure is even greater. During the last war, the railway line functioned smoothly.

[Said]

They'll definitely bend it. You're absolutely spot on about Bastion. The hyenas won't let up until the aircraft carrier sinks. It's too big a pittance to just leave it like that. Now the main thing is for neither China nor Russia to back down.

[Zoer]

Quote: Hagen

I wonder if our Bastion doesn't want to be tested on real targets?

How will Bastions help the Persians if the maximum range of the Onyx anti-ship missiles is 800 km, which is less than the combat radius of the deck-based Super Hornets and Lightnings?

[futurohunter]

They'll "suppose they shut it down." Hot-blooded southern officials will promise to "shut everything down," immediately run to the Chinese, get a bribe from them, and continue to transport as before. No one cares, and everyone's happy.

[solar]

Through Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. Railroads can transport many times more.

This is if Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan allow it, which is not at all obvious.

[FoBoss_VM]

Exactly... Tokayev is afraid of angering his respected Western partners, to whom he bows low.

[Askold65]

Quote from solar

This is if Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan allow it, which is not at all obvious.

What if China, Russia and Iran cut off the oxygen supply to these landlocked countries?

[Willy-V]

You forgot about the Turkmens. The Uzbeks don't have a border with Iran! So what's the big deal?

[Pravodel]

You can transport many times more by rail than by plane or truck.

It would be possible to transport an entire military armada across the Caspian Sea...

[TermNachTer]

It's possible, but Russia can't give up much right now—it needs to do so itself. China, on the other hand, isn't at war with anyone yet.

[Said]

Russia currently has the most important thing: experience in UAVs, plus a ton of modified plants powered by jets. If they swarm, they won't shoot them all down. But whether there are enough geraniums for an aircraft carrier is a question...

[Pravodel]

Russia can't give much away now - we have to do it ourselves

That's understandable. But we can certainly toss a couple of zircons and daggers to Iran, and we won't go broke!

[TermNachTer]

Well, right now, there's no point in worsening relations with the mattress owners until the SVO is over. Then we can start playing our game.

[Pravodel]

Now, don't worsen your relationship with the mattress owners until the SVO is over. Then you can start playing your game.

This is a moot point. If we don't help Iran, and the Anglo-Saxons bomb Iran and send it "nowhere," Russia will immediately have so many questions that even our victory in the war with the 404th state won't resolve them... We'll immediately get another huge war in our south, in Central Asia and the Caucasus.
Example from the story:
After the civil war in Central Asia, the USSR fought against the Basmachi until the early 40s.
Do we want another war like this after our victory in Ukraine!?

[TermNachTer]

They won't crush us; we're woefully short of resources. And China is just around the corner with an axe.

[Pravodel]

They won't crush us; we're woefully short of resources. And China is just around the corner with an axe.

I hope so. Your words, yes, to God's ears!

[shikin]

And from what launch vehicles will they launch these zircons with daggers? And besides, they'll need to be prepared for launch. Are you suggesting we participate directly?

[Pravodel]

You invite us to participate directly

The Anglo-Saxons are participating in the war in Ukraine: all long-range missiles are launched with their participation... And a couple of launched Zircon missiles doesn't mean we're participating in Iran's war. It's just a small contribution from our retirees to friendly Iran...

[Sergey Tkach]

Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan don't border Iran. There's also Turkmenistan, a rather closed country.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Arkady007

What is important here is not even the weapons themselves, but the fact of support for Iran in opposition to the United States.

Iran (Korea 2) - USA. If arms supplies are indeed ongoing, will the US, with Trump at the helm, be left in the dust?

[Victor19]

There, as is typical, they'll strike. A huge group. Going back would be a loss of face, and a serious one at that. It happened in Iraq, Libya, Venezuela, and everywhere else they destroyed countries.

[solar]

In Venezuela, they made do with a small special task force.

[Cool90]

In Korea they left, although they threatened very strongly, and now it’s 2026 and everyone has forgotten

[Victor19]

There's one thing that sets North Korea apart from others: a nuclear bomb. And a leader with balls.

[DO]

Victor19, yes, they will most likely strike. But the Americans will likely do even less convincingly than in the 12-day war.
Let's give free rein to our imagination. Sequential operations are possible:
- the resumption of unrest in the western border regions of Iran, undoubtedly organized by the United States and Israel;
- strikes on Tehran and surrounding areas;
- strikes on the regions of Iran: central, northeastern, adjacent to the Gulf of Hormuz, and the Persian Gulf;
- the US Army is winding down military operations, the US Navy is leaving the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Hormuz.
Since the US and Israeli attacks are predictable and Iran was preparing for them, losses of Israeli and US aircraft are highly likely, and losses of the US Navy are also possible.
The conflict is unlikely to last longer than the previous 12-day war.
The government in Iran will remain in power.
The parties to the conflict, as after the 12-day war, will use the media to claim victory or the achievement of their goals.

[rotfuks]

Since the US and Israeli attacks are predictable and Iran was preparing for them, losses of Israeli and US aircraft are highly likely, and losses of the US Navy are also possible.
The conflict is unlikely to continue much longer.

US and Israeli attacks are predictable because they share the same military doctrine of rapid strikes. They avoid protracted conflicts and conserve resources. They strike and immediately retreat to drum up media buzz about their invincibility. It's the Golden Horde's strategy: strike, retreat, and then impose sanctions on whoever they strike. The US and Israel aren't warriors, they're attackers.

[Al manah]

Israeli and US air force losses are highly likely

And what were Israel's losses in the last conflict?

[DO]

Al Manakh, the 12-day war began unexpectedly for Iran, including with the destruction of its air defense systems – both internally and externally. And the Iranian government, industry, and military are purposefully preparing for the impending conflict. Hence my prediction.

[DO]

PS
It is possible that the US could reach an agreement with Turkmenistan (given its very advantageous location for this operation) on the use of Turkmen airfields and airspace for the “jump-off.”

[TermNachTer]

Not that big. It was bigger during the Jewish-Persian War. I suppose the Persians learned their lesson from the first war.

[Machito]

Quote: Starover_Z

Quote: Arkady007

What is important here is not even the weapons themselves, but the fact of support for Iran in opposition to the United States.

Iran (Korea 2) - USA. If arms supplies are indeed ongoing, will the US, with Trump at the helm, be left in the dust?

Let's find out together.
But I really want the US aircraft carrier to sink along with its entire crew.
I hope that Russia has managed to supply Iran with the latest anti-ship missiles to destroy the US carrier strike group.

[Brother]

Hmm ...

the latest anti-ship missiles

That's not bad. But it only makes sense if the "service personnel" are VERY thoroughly trained! Otherwise, they're just targets. And... the same goes for, say, air defense personnel! Which Iran desperately needs.
And another detail: Iran is a solvent country! And we need supplies "abroad."

[Podvodnik]

But I really want the US aircraft carrier to sink along with its entire crew.

No, you can't. There are several reactors at the bottom. It's an environmental disaster. There will be dirt...
But if it burns down to the holds, that's an option. Well, at least it burns a little, not down to the holds.
They'll tow it to the base. And then let them dig around there.
Well, everything else goes to the bottom.

[Zoer]

Quote: Podvodnik

No, you can't. There are several reactors at the bottom. It's an environmental disaster. There will be dirt...

No way! Reactors have safety systems and a pressure hull. Look at our Komsomolets nuclear submarine, still lying on the seabed with its reactor, and it's okay.

[Podvodnik]

Reactors have protection systems and a pressure hull. Our nuclear submarine, the Komsomolets, is still lying on the seabed with its reactor still in place, and it's okay.

They have protection. Judging by the facts, everything worked. The aircraft shut down the reactors, the battery-free cooldown system worked. The damage wasn't combat-related. But no one knows what would happen during a missile strike.
The hulls are strong. The ones at Fukushima were strong too. So what? They were there and then they floated away. They contaminated everything around with radiation. Even though everything worked as planned. The batteries simply ran out, and there was no cooling. And then there was a radiation accident.
So there is no point in sinking the aircraft carrier.
It needs to be severely damaged. Repairs will take several years and cost a fortune.

[Zoer]

Quote: Podvodnik

They have protection. Judging by the facts, everything worked. The aircraft shut down the reactors, the battery-free cooldown system worked. The damage wasn't combat-related. But no one knows what would happen during a missile strike.

An external strike on an aircraft carrier would be much safer than a torpedo explosion inside the Kursk nuclear submarine. The reactors there were also intact and there was no contamination. Don't look for a black cat in a dark room; it simply isn't there.

Quote: Podvodnik

There were strong ones at Fukushima too. So what?

The reactors at Fukushima weren't protected like those on warships. Comparisons are completely inaccurate. But the fact is that the staff there did everything they could to melt the reactor vessel. They could have simply adjusted the pumps and cooled the reactors with fire hoses. But no one did anything.

Quote: Podvodnik

So there is no point in sinking the aircraft carrier.
It needs to be severely damaged. Repairs will take several years and cost a fortune.

Yes, it certainly makes sense! From moral and political to purely economic and military. Repairing is much cheaper than building a new one. And next time, they'll think twice about daring to take their weapons around the world.

[Zoer]

Quote: Podvodnik

So there is no point in sinking the aircraft carrier.

Ehh, and if they sink the Halibut project 877 with the help of our diesel-electric submarines, it will be a real SONG!

[TermNachTer]

It's highly unlikely—the Abram is stationed about 800 miles from shore, beyond the Hornet's range, and the F-35C is also questionable. It's possible it will head inland before impact.

[Zoer]

Quote: TermNachTER

It's highly unlikely—the Abram is stationed about 800 miles from shore, beyond the Hornet's range, and the F-35C is also questionable. It's possible it will head inland before impact.

No way! 800 km is the maximum range of the Bastion cruise missiles. The Super Hornet has a combat radius of 725 km, BUT it also has cruise missiles and anti-aircraft bombs with unguided missiles under its wings, which can fly for hundreds of kilometers. Destroying these Bastion cruise missiles first isn't particularly difficult, and it's also quite possible to hit Iran itself. The Yankees won't send their carrier strike groups closer than 800 km to the Iranian coast. There aren't any fools there, like ours, who betrayed Moscow with the missile cruisers.

[TermNachTer]

Operating at the extreme end of the range isn't an option either. The aircraft's combat load will be minimal, and fuel consumption will be maximum. And the Abram only has one universal supply vehicle. There are no others nearby.

[Zoer]

Quote: TermNachTER

Operating at the limit of range is also not an option. The aircraft's combat load will be minimal, and fuel consumption will be maximum.

Why is the US sending air tankers in droves to the Middle East?

[TermNachTer]

Tankers will be used to refuel ground forces—they'll be a real pain to fly there, too. Last time, even French and German ones participated because there weren't enough Jewish or "mattress" ones. Overall, watching the West push heavy transports around makes me smile, hoping for the real deal. There won't be anyone left to fly.

[Zoer]

Quote: TermNachTER

Tankers will refuel ground aircraft.

And land-based ones too, of course.

Quote: TermNachTER

Last time, even French and German people participated, because there weren't enough Jewish and mattress people.

Is this some kind of problem for mattresses? They'll be chasing them this time too.

Quote: TermNachTER

In general, I watch the West rush heavy transport aircraft and smile quietly, thinking that when the going really gets tough, there won't be anyone left to fly.

When the need really arises, they will form convoys of sea vessels and drive them to the desired point in the world. Military transport aviation is strictly for small-scale special operations.

[Zoer]

Quote: Bearded

But I really want the US aircraft carrier to sink along with its entire crew.

Yes, for RKR Moscow is just what we need!

[napalm]

Quote: Starover_Z

Quote: Arkady007

What is important here is not even the weapons themselves, but the fact of support for Iran in opposition to the United States.

Iran (Korea 2) - USA. If arms supplies are indeed ongoing, will the US, with Trump at the helm, be left in the dust?

Something is doubtful. It's unlikely they'll fail.

[Sergey Tkach]

They wrote the same thing about Venezuela. We'll see...

[private person]

What is important here is not even the weapons themselves, but the fact of support for Iran in opposition to the United States.

Support without weapons is no support, just words. You can express support verbally, but when the missiles start flying, weapons are more important.

[Vladimir M]

It's not enough to just acquire weapons; they also need to be integrated into the defense system, learned how to use them, and coordinated in combat. But Iran doesn't have time for that.

[ZnachWest]

Maybe Russian and Chinese specialists have it

[Vladimir M]

I doubt we'd have the courage, under today's circumstances, to send our "experts" to Iran. And it's doubtful they'd be able to influence the final outcome. We'd have to "harness ourselves like adults," like in Korea under the USSR.
China could theoretically send its own "specialists", but this is also doubtful.

[ZnachWest]

Why not? There are some in Syria, and they even went to Armenia for some reason. Africa... We'll see...

[Vladimir M]

So how did it all end in Syria?
This is precisely the question that arises: why were you in Armenia?
Well, I agree, time will tell. I just expressed my opinion.

[Revolver]

Quote from ZnachWest

Why not? There are some in Syria, and they even went to Armenia for some reason. Africa... We'll see...

They were in Venezuela too. However, Maduro is now registered at this address:
Metropolitan Detention Center,
80 29th Street,
Brooklyn, NY 11232

[Commissar77]

Who's been to Venezuela? What kind of experts?

[Essex62]

Cuban, who were poisoned by the locals beforehand. Rumors about our air defense crews are nothing more than rumors.

[private person]

I doubt that under today's conditions we will "pluck up the courage" to send our "specialists" to Iran.

Without specialists, it's just a pile of junk. And it's possible that Iranian crews had already been trained in Russia and China, but it was simply not publicized. Especially after the Americans had already attacked with impunity.

[Vladimir M]

Even if Iranian crews have completed training, they still need to integrate the acquired weapons into the defense system and conduct combat coordination. This is time Iran simply doesn't have.

[Grits]

Quote: Vladimir M

Even if Iranian crews have completed training, they still need to integrate the acquired weapons into the defense system and conduct combat coordination. This is time Iran simply doesn't have.

Or maybe the Persians have all the launchers ready, training and coordination completed, and the planes simply loaded up with extra anti-ship missiles and air defense missiles? I'd really like to believe it.

[UA3QHP]

We would have to "harness ourselves like adults", just like in Korea during the USSR.

There's doubt the US is ready to step up to the plate like it did in Korea. They're unlikely to afford to lose hundreds of planes now.

[Vladimir M]

The US can simply bomb Iran until the Iranian state collapses.
And then we'll see where the curve leads.
This is where China needs to “get involved” for Iran, and not “sit on a tree.”

[newtc7]

Unfortunately, they're unlikely to lose any aircraft now. At the time of the Korean War, the USSR and the US were roughly on par in technology, but that's no longer the case...
The US could be stopped by the transfer of some large number of air force personnel, including our pilots, but that's hard to believe—and Iran is unlikely to agree to it, and we don't really understand why. However, the reason is clear: to avoid losing another, or at least semi-ally. There's no faith in the sunken aircraft carriers, primarily because there's no resolve. The Americans will bomb Iran in a couple of weeks, and that's it. Unfortunately, I'd be happy to be wrong.

[Plate]

Quote from: newtc7

However, the reason is clear - not to lose another, at least semi-ally.

If the Kremlin were truly gangsters in international diplomacy, they could take advantage of this to turn a semi-ally into a satellite. So-and-so, let's station our troops right in your capital, buy your Caspian port and the railway from there to the capital, so Russian Railways can run trains along it. MiG-31s ​​and Kinzhals will be based at our base. They'll take off from there and pound Ukraine. And maybe even somewhere else. Don't want to sell out your country? Well... fine... we just offered you protection...

[Al manah]

If there were real bandits from international diplomacy in the Kremlin,

The real bandits overseas – they control the children, money, and real estate of the Kremlinites...

[Plate]

P.S. If Iran agreed to provide a land trade corridor with India, including for Russian (not its own) oil, I would be in favor of sending any number of troops there. This would allow them to sell a huge portion of their oil without using long-suffering tankers.
The only problem here is that Iran has banned itself from hosting foreign troops. But I think a tough enough negotiator could show it its place in the global food chain.
Ah, well, in such a wonderful scenario, Russia would have the opportunity to shut down Iran's military nuclear program and transfer Iran itself to Rosatom stations.

Ah, dreams of a Russian colonial empire I wonder if there are such dreamers in the Kremlin?

[Grits]

Quote: Plate

Ah, the dreams of a Russian colonial empire. I wonder if there are such dreamers in the Kremlin?

The Kremlin only has dreamers in the spirit of Jesus. Or at least Leopold the Cat.

[newtc7]

No, the Kremlin dreams of being anyone's colony, even if the Tajik metropolitan administration constantly calls them on the carpet and reprimands them. They're ready to give everything – just so they don't get sent packing. I don't think Russia has ever had such a government; even in the worst times, some self-respect remained, even a lot. Now they're simply hogging everyone who wants it, giving everything to everyone, and being bullied for it. It's an amazing time, though.
Iran could not only be put in its place, it could be put into a truly subservient position. They have no cards to play – the country is in ruins, the currency is completely lost, inflation is sky-high, there are constant protests, and at the same time, they could be completely bombed and hanged somewhere in Tehran. It would seem – you can twist them as you please, but no, genius chess players are above that. If they sacrifice their own people, then there's no question about it; to beat someone else up – neither we nor they are like that.

[Plate]

I, too, am amazed by the psychology of the modern Kremlin. Even colonial administrations everywhere and at all times dreamed of stopping sending a portion of taxes to the metropolis, so they could keep everything for themselves. But the modern Russian authorities don't even seem to prioritize their own profits.

[newtc7]

There's some kind of psychopathic deviation there, masquerading as friendship and hospitality. For some reason, they think that if they're good to everyone, everyone will love them, so they fawn and fawn. But they openly walk all over them. It's as if they've never lived in real life at all...

[Grits]

Quote from: newtc7

Unfortunately, they're unlikely to lose any aircraft now. At the time of the Korean War, the USSR and the US were roughly on par in technology, but that's no longer the case...
The US could be stopped by the transfer of some large number of air force personnel, including our pilots, but that's hard to believe—and Iran is unlikely to agree to it, and we don't really understand why. However, the reason is clear: to avoid losing another, or at least semi-ally. There's no faith in the sunken aircraft carriers, primarily because there's no resolve. The Americans will bomb Iran in a couple of weeks, and that's it. Unfortunately, I'd be happy to be wrong.

Moreover, there's already experience with this—Yugoslavia. No ground operations, aircraft from aircraft carriers and adjacent bases, Tomahawks from ships and submarines. And then—a total collapse of the entire command and control system (unlike us, the Americans aren't shy about this), a collapse of power supplies, communications, and transportation (and, unlike us, they aren't shy about bringing down bridges), and that's it—the Yugoslav leadership threw up its hands.

[bukhach]

If memory serves, Serbia's leadership capitulated after Western "democrats" threatened to carpet bomb the country's territory, following the example of Vietnam. I don't think I need to explain what that meant. If it weren't for our nuclear weapons, Russia would have been subjected to such a punishment at the very beginning of the Second World War, no doubt.

[Essex62]

That wouldn't work with Russia. Not hundreds, of course, but the aggressors would have lost an unacceptably large number of planes. And the retaliation would have been looming large, if they hadn't realized they were in trouble and stopped. In a situation like that, you can't leopold them; they'd kill you in a heartbeat.

[Zoer]

Quote: Essex62

This couldn't work with Russia.

Of course not! Therefore, without nuclear weapons, we would have been destroyed much more vigorously and on a larger scale than, say, Vietnam. Moreover, it's quite possible that nuclear weapons would have been used to limit their losses. We're an incredibly lucrative target for them. By bombing us and seizing all our resources, the Westerners would have solved all their problems for 100 years. The collapse of the USSR alone was enough for them to last 30 years. So, there's no point in harboring any illusions. The Soviet Military District clearly demonstrated what our army, optimized by the chess player and his cronies, is "capable" of in a conventional war.

[Essex62]

If these optimizers can't do it, others will come. It's no different in Russia. They'll never beat us.

[Zoer]

Quote: Essex62

If these optimizers can't do it, others will come. It's no different in Russia. They'll never beat us.

Well, the Mongol-Tatars won. The Japanese won. In WWI, we lost to the losers... And all because of incompetent optimizers. We won WWII, but at great cost, first in the civil war, and then in WWII. Everything was at great cost. Things have never been any different for us in this regard.

[Essex62]

And big wars are never won with little bloodshed. It all depends on how many participants are involved. But percentage-wise, the losses are always considerable. That is, of course, if they're actually fighting, and not just throwing around a golden donkey.

[Zoer]

Quote: Essex62

But big wars are never won with little bloodshed anywhere.

Americans will categorically disagree with you.

[Essex62]

You're not paying attention, I wrote. They earned all their recent victories with a golden donkey. But in real-life battles, they've spilled their fair share of blood. But that was a long time ago.

[Zoer]

Quote: Essex62

You weren't paying attention, I wrote. They earned all their recent victories with a golden donkey.

I read everything carefully. Everything they won with the golden donkey wasn't a major victory. It was just small stuff. Their only major victory was in WW2, and they shed very little blood there, but they got the biggest payout.

Quote: Essex62

But in real-life databases, they've spilled their fair share of blood. But that was a long time ago.

During the entirety of WW2, the Americans didn't even lose half a million killed. And these were strictly military personnel; they lost no civilians at all. The USSR lost 20 million. Do you see the difference? So, it's you who aren't paying attention to the numbers.

[Essex62]

Half a million is nothing when you're fighting on foreign soil. And we were subjected to genocide. What's the point of arguing? The American losses, in proportion to those involved, are not small.

[Zoer]

Quote: Essex62

Half a million is nothing when you're fighting on foreign soil. And we were subjected to genocide. What's the point of arguing? The American losses, in proportion to those involved, are not small.

What difference does it make whose territory it was? What matters is the ratio of losses to the size of the country's population. The USSR's population was comparable to that of the US at the time, yet its losses were 40 (FORTY) times greater. Moreover, the Americans reaped more profit from that war than anyone else combined. We're not discussing the tactical qualities of US troops in World War II. We're counting the human losses of nations and the results of that war.

[Essex62]

What difference does it make? Genocide of civilians on our territory. The war was fought on Soviet territory. If American cities had been bombed and villages burned, they would have suffered the same losses, including the extermination of their inhabitants. This isn't about
Geshefte. I don't understand at all, what are you proposing? How about Americans setting fires all over the planet and making a profit? Well, that won't work for us. They're behind the puddle and have a gangster mentality.

[Zoer]

Quote: Essex62

What difference does it make?

Yes, usually. The reasons for population decline have no bearing on the damage to the country. Only the raw numbers do. Our figures are 40 times higher.

Quote: Essex62

What are you suggesting? How about setting fires all over the planet and profiting from it? Well, that won't work for us. They're beyond the puddle and have a gangster mentality.

I suggest we at least do things like they did in the USSR: have those bastards never even think about coming near our borders, and have our troops stationed in Berlin, at the Berlin Wall. But our profiteers stole and sold everything. It's a good thing their instinct for self-preservation kicked in, and they didn't waste their nuclear weapons, otherwise we'd have been battered for three years now, following the example of Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
And so, "only" in the neighboring country, the SVO is flying, and quite a lot of it is flying through our territory, and it was under occupation. I don't even want to talk about our losses.

[Essex62]

How come they don't influence us? They definitely do. It's hard to reach the US, but we, with our untold wealth, are all in the same pile.

They surrendered the USSR themselves, for the opportunity to profiteer, eat hamburgers, and drive foreign cars. With this approach, it's impossible for anything to be like the USSR. The interests of the bourgeoisie are money, not statehood.

[Zoer]

Quote: Essex62

They have a real impact. It's hard to reach the US, but we, with our untold wealth, are in the general pile.

This affects the number of victims. Let's spell it out. It doesn't matter what the sauce is, what matters is HOW MANY!

Quote: Essex62

They gave up the USSR themselves for the opportunity to profiteer, eat hamburgers and drive foreign cars.

The USSR was betrayed by those who now gobble up lobsters in London and Paris, while cruising around on private jets and superyachts. Ordinary people voted to preserve the USSR. And the majority of these people now live on no more than 50 rubles a month.

[Essex62]

It doesn't matter. It's pure arithmetic. The more you fight, the more you lose. We and Gayrope, which fought against us, have equal combat losses. The rest are from the genocide of civilians. I just can't get it. What are you trying to prove, that the Pindos are better fighters than us?

He spoke out and did nothing to insist on his own way. And then everyone rushed off to Turkey to become shuttle traders and open cooperatives. And he loudly shouted, first, "Down with the CPSU and Soviet power," and then, "Yeltsin is our president." And in 93, when we tried to restore it, he didn't come out en masse to support it. They themselves squandered the country and the power of the workers. There's no point in shifting the blame.

[Zoer]

Quote: Essex62

It doesn't matter. It's pure arithmetic. The more you fight, the more you lose.

Firstly, these are all indirect causes and don't really mean anything. The Americans lost far fewer lives in Vietnam over 10 years than Japan did in four days, from August 6, 1945, to August 9, 1945.
Secondly, I repeat, none of this matters at all in the matter at hand—neither the reasons nor the timing. Only the output figures—the costs and acquisitions—are important.

Quote: Essex62

What do you want to prove, that the Pindos are better at fighting than us?

I've already said this, but you still can't get it. We don't consider the tactical capabilities of individual soldiers/squads/companies/battalions/brigade/armies. We consider the socio-economic and political aspects and consequences of war for a given country. And in this regard, yes, Ping DOS is much, much better than us. Yes, the ocean. Yes, an aggressive foreign policy, but it's quite reasonable and has a very positive impact on its people. But excuse me, we also have our advantages, which can and should be used. But... we are constantly lacking something.

[Essex62]

We don't have such advantages, so in this regard, they look better. War is always fought on our territory, and Russia simply doesn't have hothouse conditions. In the 40s, we had to drag production thousands of miles away, into the middle of nowhere. What kind of efficiency can you expect? That's the main factor. Although sloppiness is also a factor. But there's nothing you can do about it, no matter how much pressure you put on it. It's just mentality.

[Zoer]

Quote: Essex62

He spoke out and did nothing to insist on his own way.

What should have been done? A military coup? Hmm... The State Emergency Committee didn't succeed; they lacked the courage. And the people would have supported them. But...

Quote: Essex62

And everyone rushed to work as a shuttle trader across Turkey and open cooperatives.

Not all, just a small portion. Everyone wanted to eat back then, but many died out. They couldn't fit into the market. And it wasn't their fault.

Quote: Essex62

And he loudly shouted first, “Down with the CPSU and Soviet power,” and then, “Yeltsin is our president.”

A direct consequence of the refrigerator's war with TV. WHO organized this? Don't tell me it was the working people!

Quote: Essex62

And in '93, when we tried to restore it, there was no mass support. We ourselves squandered the country and the workers' power. There's no point in shifting the blame.

Well, there weren't many people willing to take pitchforks to tanks, that's true. But the fact that military generals were bought off—that's not the people's business again.

[Essex62]

It's all self-justification. The majority betrayed socialism and their Soviet power. That's a fact. They felt the slightest discomfort and were immediately gone. But what if people didn't even think about rebelling during WWII?

If mass demonstrations had started, Bespaly would never have dared to crush them with armor. And the army wouldn't have done that either. It sat neutrally in its barracks. What kind of tanks are there on the bridge?
then the left crews.
And yes, that's a factor. You can't fight for long with a Kalashnikov. I learned it the hard way. It quickly ceased to be a combat unit. But there was a chance, the people didn't want it. They trusted the counter-revolutionaries, betrayed their ideals.

[neland36]

We are fighting against the Yankees in Ukraine, and we will fight against them in Iran too!

[Cool90]

It's not us who are fighting the Yankees in Ukraine and Iran, it's them who are fighting us, and we can't think of anything against them.

[Essex62]

We just don't fight like we should. Until now, "we haven't started yet."

[Zoer]

Quote: Essex62

We just don't fight like we should. Until now, "we haven't started yet."

Yeah, but what about the strength to "start"? The Ukrainian invasion of the Kursk region somehow suggests that it's not really.

[Essex62]

And we're not just those who slept through everything. There are actually 146 million of us. Surely we're not all slackers and indifferent people?

[Zoer]

Quote: Essex62

And we're not just those who slept through everything. There are actually 146 million of us. Surely we're not all slackers and indifferent people?

Already 143,5 million and every year it gets 1 million less!
Not everyone, of course, but almost everyone is trying to survive in this country. And there aren't many of those who are supposed to "start" after Serdyukov and Shayga's optimization. And there aren't as many modern, high-tech weapons in stockpiles as we'd like. So...

[Essex62]

So, the conclusions are clear: we need to break the current situation before it's too late.

[Zoer]

Quote: Essex62

So, the conclusions are clear: we need to break the current situation before it's too late.

So, if 87% of the population is FOR... And they could even draw 147%. In the current situation, Russia has no evolutionary path for development.

[Essex62]

Russia always has a way. Stop spreading defeatist sentiments here.

[Zoer]

Quote: Essex62

Russia always has ways.

Well, who's arguing? But not everyone is destined to endure these paths.

[Essex62]

Who said it would be easy? Russians never look for easy ways.

[Zoer]

Quote: Essex62

Who said it would be easy? Russians never look for easy ways.

Is it religion that's holding you back? Or is it laziness and indifference that's getting in the way? Why is everything so tacky here?

[Essex62]

There are many reasons. Religion has nothing to do with it. And who knows why it always comes down to it. Mentality, the syndrome of enormity.

[Gavrilo Princip]

And how many Banderites have you personally killed from your couch?

[Zoer]

Quote: neland36

We are fighting against the Yankees in Ukraine, and we will fight against them in Iran too!

How I laughed at the Ukrobanderites screaming from 2014 to 2022 that they were fighting Russia in Donbas. Wow, we have plenty of such smart guys, too.
We're fighting the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the Ukrainian government. The US and NATO support them in every way possible. Both with weapons and intelligence, that's undeniable. Just like we did in Vietnam, but for some reason no one could bring themselves to say that the US was fighting the USSR there.

[Essex62]

This was constantly discussed in both Congress and the White House. And in addition to supplying weapons, a significant number of our specialists fought there. Just as today, NATO forces are fighting on the outskirts.

[neland36]

If the US hires a Ukrainian killer to eliminate Russia, then who is the US to us?

[Zoer]

Quote: neland36

If the US hires a Ukrainian killer to eliminate Russia, then who is the US to us?

The enemy and the client, of course. But that doesn't mean you're in physical contact with this enemy in a back alley, fighting for survival here and now. Even if that America trained the killer and gave him a weapon. There's no need to confuse concepts, as those topknotted non-brothers constantly do.

[Podvodnik]

. and learn how to use it, conduct combat coordination

Given the appalling situation in the "Red Banner and Order-Bearing Missile Division Number+++," the personnel are to be discharged into the reserve along with the command. Entirely. Removed from the lists, so to speak. Retired from all of them, these radishes. So they'll understand, you see. And send them off on a cruise to where they belong, to look at spires, or minarets, or whatever "they" have there. Let them learn about the history of an ancient civilization.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: private person

What is important here is not even the weapons themselves, but the fact of support for Iran in opposition to the United States.
Support without weapons is not support, but only words.

Joint Iranian-Russian-Chinese naval exercises begin tomorrow in the Persian Gulf. They're probably there for a reason.

Quote: private person

You can express support in words, but when the missiles start flying, weapons are more important.

The Chinese flotilla includes several destroyers with a strong air defense system.
more details here -
https://rusvesna.su/news/1769875514

[sub307]

Quote: Nyrobsky

They probably didn't end up there by chance.

Well, it's most likely not a "coincidence".

[Essex62]

Just two is nothing against an armada of mattresses. It's unknown which Russian ships arrived in the area.
Nothing more than a demonstration, an attempt to sober up. Only if the redhead bites the bit...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Essex62

Just two is nothing against an armada of mattresses. It's unknown which Russian ships arrived in the area.
Nothing more than a demonstration, an attempt to sober up. Only if the redhead bites the bit...

Tehran has its own ships, too. Three dozen submarines alone. It's clear that Iran wouldn't survive a full-blown showdown, but it could cause serious damage.

[Essex62]

That's undeniable. But China needs to be more proactive in deploying its armada. The situation demands it. They built an ocean-going fleet for a reason, after all. What better time than today to test their combat readiness and show off their steel Fabergé.

[Zoer]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Tehran also has its own ships. Three dozen submarines alone.

Of these, only three are Halibut 877s; the rest are ultra-small Ghadir-class diesel-electric submarines, with a displacement of 115/150 tons. This isn't even a serious matter; they'd barely make it from the Iranian coast to the AUG, with a range of 1000 km.
Surface ships: 3 frigates and 4 destroyers with YJ-8 anti-ship missiles with a maximum range of 50 km. The rest are either missile boats or ancient junk. The Americans would dismantle this fleet without any difficulty.

[ZnachWest]

Trump calls these days critical. Feel sorry for the guy.

[Mikhail Drabkin]

at least four Russian transport aircraft: three An-124-100 and a special flight of Il-76TD.

- Does anyone really think that what was sent will help repel the US and Israel... as was the case during the last Iranian-Israeli-American operation to destroy bunkers with uranium enrichment operations... Yes, "the very fact of support" really helps Iran know that their allies are their Army and Navy.

This is a good deal for Russia and China, nothing more. Trump decides to launch a military operation – and both Russia and China… will disappear from the chronology of events – “we cannot be more Syrian than the Syrians themselves… more Venezuelans… more Iranians…”

Russia cannot ensure freedom of maritime trade; what else needs to be discussed and explained here?

"Trump's knees trembled at the knowledge of aid from Russia and China..." Oh, really!!! This is pathetic nonsense from old men fueled by hopes that Iran will pull chestnuts out of the fire for Russia and China...

[Montezuma]

[quote=Mikhail Drabkin]at least four Russian transport aircraft: three An-124-100 and a special flight of Il-76TD.
"Trump's knees trembled at the knowledge of aid from Russia and China..." Oh, really!!! Pretentious nonsense.
[Quote]
Are you sure that since the June war, these are the only planes that have delivered cargo to Iran? And only now have the Chinese started sending things there too?
[quote=Mikhail Drabkin]Does anyone really think that what was sent will help repel the US and Israel?[/quote]
I suspect they're thinking, and they're thinking people no worse than you. "Greater Israel" already got punched in the face by Iran in June, despite its "impenetrable Iron Dome" and American aid, so it has the potential to get a hefty hit on top of that. America won't suffer much; it's far away, but Tel Aviv is much closer.

[Commissar77]

Iran will give everyone a hard time. We believe in Iran. With the help of Russia and China, Iran will beat the US. It's so big, and you still believe in fairy tales.

[rotfuks]

The pretentious nonsense of old men fueled by the hope that Iran will pull chestnuts out of the fire for Russia and China...

For example, in Ukraine there are no pompous old men; the government and leadership of the country are filled with very young figures, and yet Ukraine has lost a quarter of its territory and half its population.

[Essex62]

There is no Ukraine. There is an illegal criminal entity called a state. And it's not they who are losing territory, but we who are liberating ours.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Mikhail Drabkin

- Does anyone really think that what was sent will help repel the US and Israel...

Some suggest that Israel can be "pacified" without leaving the hallway... The coordinates of the airfields are known...

[Panin (midshipman)]

Quote: Mikhail Drabkin

Russia cannot ensure freedom of maritime trade; what else needs to be discussed and explained here?

But China could. At least escort tankers to its ports.

[cytadell]

What is important here is not even the weapons themselves, but the fact of support for Iran in opposition to the United States.
It seems that Donya is having days when he has to think first and only then speak.

And here I quote the source:
https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/26296643

Russia's Permanent Representative to the UN, Vasily Nebenzya, commenting on possible US aggression against Iran, advised Americans to "measure seven times and cut not once."
Iran is now better prepared for possible aggression against the country than it was in the summer of 2025, he noted.

Why is Nebenzya doing this???
Let the US and Israel get involved in Iran and get stuck there like we are in the Northeast Asian region.
Who needs this D'Artagnan passage? Where's our cunning? We should have played along with the striped ones, pretending they didn't notice the increased US activity around Iran, and instead prepared all the necessary cargo ourselves and delivered it discreetly and quickly nearby. Has the Soviet school of military cunning really disappeared!?

It seems that Donya is having days when he has to think first and only then speak.

This concerns us too.

[Vladimir M]

Purely theoretically, it would be advantageous for us if the US got bogged down in Iran. But the problem is that there's no one to actually help Iran...
But if Iran "falls", then all the bogeymen from the Middle East, and even from Central Asia, will be sent against us.

[cytadell]

But the problem is that there is no one who can really help Iran...

I never meant to abandon Iran. On the contrary, I would have taken every measure to provide accelerated and maximum assistance, together with China. But I would have done so covertly.
I've always been amazed by the secrecy and cunning of Soviet military specialists during WWII. May their memory, honor, and praise be theirs. We wish we could be here from the times of our grandfathers and great-grandfathers.

[Vladimir M]

It's doubtful that under these circumstances we'll have the "courage and determination" to truly help Iran. And there are reasons for that.
I didn’t write that you suggested “abandoning Iran.”

[cytadell]

I didn’t write that you said “abandon Iran.”

You're right, the phrase "nobody" just didn't sit well with me. Russia and China are nobody. I disagree. These two countries are the core of Eurasia.
We can help Iran, but we need to coordinate with China.
Our specialists and our air defense are no small feat. Chinese weapons and their specialists are an even greater advantage.
Of course, if Xi decides to sit it out, it's at the cost of his reputation. If Xi isn't stupid, then allowing the US to repeat Venezuela would be tantamount to China admitting its own immaturity.
I often see black cadets at the S... artillery school, but I've never seen Iranian cadets. Why? Our help here could be significant, too.

[Vladimir M]

If Xi has decided to simply "sit it out," that's a foolish idea. He must understand that China is currently the US's main problem, and the US will try to solve it.
Could the "purges" in the Chinese army be connected to this?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Vladimir M

Could the "purges" in the Chinese army be connected to this?

By the way, in Russia, it's also time to take a closer look at those who throw their caps in the air at the mention of "Trump" or "USA"... And also to assess their financial situation and the sources of their income.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote from cytadell

Russia and China are nothing. I disagree. These two countries are the core of Eurasia.

Here, the DPRK became a stumbling block for the US, while China and Russia could force (especially since both countries are from the same region) not only Israel, but also the US to change their minds...
At least for the fact that the Semites continue to strike civilians in the Gaza Strip...

[Montezuma]

Quote from cytadell

On the contrary, I would take all measures to provide accelerated and maximum assistance, together with China. But I would do it secretly.

Covertly, given the current capabilities of modern intelligence, and at a great distance? A highly dubious option.

[cytadell]

A very dubious option.

You're partly right. If Iran's actual situation is bad and the US is moving fast, then it's possible.
Okay, our generals know better. Things always seem simpler from the outside, but improvisation is a powerful thing in reality. It creates the element of surprise and success.

[rotfuks]

Purely theoretically, it would be beneficial for us if the US got bogged down in Iran. But the problem is,

Just recently, the US got bogged down in Afghanistan and fled like crazy. So what? Who remembers that, and how did it affect the US? Doni came along and started the whole thing all over again.

[hagen]

Quote from cytadell

Has the Soviet school of military cunning really disappeared!?

Quote from cytadell

Let the US and Israel get involved in Iran and get stuck there like we are in the Northeast Asian region.

The US's entanglement in Iran is a war. People are dying, mostly civilians. Having the power and not trying to stop it is a Christian sin. You're reasoning bloodthirstily, much like the US senators (Truman, for example) did in 1941 during World War II.

[cytadell]

You reason bloodthirstily.

One must make a choice between evil and even greater evil.
When does a person realize that life is worth something? When their loved ones die before their eyes. Why are Europe and the US fanning the flames of war? Because they haven't washed their faces in blood. Their help is a great evil.
To make them bear their own losses and pay for their selfishness is not Christian - but it is a lesser evil.
In the face of these losses, a reassessment of one's position will come.

[hagen]

Quote from cytadell

One must make a choice between evil and even greater evil.

I think Nebenzya knows better what's acceptable and what's not. And if you're not fully aware of the situation, there's no point in offering advice to a competent Foreign Ministry specialist.

[cytadell]

And if you're not fully aware of the situation, there's no point in offering advice to a competent Foreign Ministry specialist.

Every ordinary citizen of this country isn't fully aware of the current situation. And the way the news is presented isn't their fault. Moreover, on this website, citizens share their opinions and engage in discussions with one another (go back and look carefully at my comment and who it was addressed to), rather than offering advice. And I didn't invite you to this discussion.

[hagen]

Quote from cytadell

And I didn’t invite you to this discussion.

So what? This is a public conversation. You've expressed your opinion, I've expressed mine. Yes, I don't agree with yours. What's the problem? Have I offended you in some way? What kind of childish complaint is this?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Hagen

I think Nebenzya knows better what can be said and what shouldn't.

I assume that Nebenzya (and even Lavrov) say what the Kremlin allows them to say...

[hagen]

Quote: ROSS 42

I assume that Nebenzya (and even Lavrov) say what the Kremlin allows them to say...

Of course, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs follows the President's line on international relations, as he is directly responsible for it. But if Nebenzya had to dictate every word from the Kremlin, he would be easier to replace. A good employee is one who doesn't need to be herded every minute like a heifer in a pasture.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Hagen

A good employee is one who doesn't need to be herded every minute like a heifer in a pasture.

Today, a good employee is considered to be one who acts strictly within the bounds of his status.

"With your intelligence, with your talent, you could have advanced in your career." "With intelligence, and suddenly – advanced? Are you joking, Your Excellency?" Servile mediocrity is what achieves everything!

[hagen]

Quote: ROSS 42

Today, a good employee is considered to be one who acts strictly within the bounds of his status.

Well, this is your vision “today”, and you are not an expert in the management system.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Hagen

Well, this is your vision “today”, and you are not an expert in the management system.

You don't need to be a management expert to judge a manager's suitability based on their end results. But overall, you're right:

I would have a saber and a horse -
Yes to the line of fire!
And palace intrigues -
This is not all about me!

[hagen]

Quote: ROSS 42

I would have a saber and a horse -
Yes to the line of fire!

What horse, what saber?! You should be sitting peacefully on the sofa... It would be more peaceful for those around you...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Hagen

But if Nebenzya had to dictate every word from the Kremlin, it would be easier to replace him.

Well, well. Is this the president's line?
He prompted Manturov with every word and finally taught him to read from a piece of paper... How much good did this official, brought out of oblivion, bring?
Which governors have shown initiative in developing their region's economy (other than Kadyrov)?
Which minister has learned from the work of his predecessor and raised the industry to international standards?
So he brought Tsivilev closer, appointed him minister, and a debt of hundreds of billions accumulated in Kuzbass, and the miners are receiving their wages late...
A quarter of a century has passed!!! Should we be ahead of the curve in anything other than icebreakers?

[hagen]

Quote: ROSS 42

He prompted Manturov with every word and finally taught him to read from a piece of paper.

Did any of them share with you the ins and outs of ministerial training? Or were they present? It seems to me, sir, that you've plucked newspaper headlines and are trying to manipulate them to suit your own vision of the country and the world in general.

Quote: ROSS 42

A quarter of a century has passed!!! Should we be ahead of the curve in anything other than icebreakers?

And besides icebreakers, the country at least began to produce its own products, something that no General Secretary who succeeded Khrushchev had achieved since Khrushchev.

Quote: ROSS 42

So he brought Tsivilev closer, appointed him minister, and a debt of hundreds of billions accumulated in Kuzbass, and the miners are receiving their wages late...

In Kuzbass, the problem isn't so much Tsivilev's relocation as the distance and busy nature of the Prosecutor General's Office. Half the mine owners should have been jailed, the rest sent down the drain. Because the preferential loans were misused (they were taken out for coal chemistry, but instead were used for mining, to cash in on the export market, while on-site processing was neglected). Volumes could be written about the problems in Kemerovo (mostly criminal cases). I think they will someday. Including the local government that was elected there. I won't go into too much detail; the format of this resource doesn't allow for that. But the coal industry is a global problem, and a man-made one at that... I've never been a proponent of the idea that humanity is capable of living righteously and without problems anywhere. Creating difficulties for ourselves is our favorite hobby. And that's how it has been under all types of government. The current one is no exception. But overall, we're the only ones capable of resisting the hegemon. China is bending over backwards. And we stand our ground, with nowhere to go. But, as our enemy, Karl G. Mannerheim, said, internal strife is more frightening than external expansion. We love to indulge in "productive" introspection.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Hagen

We love to engage in "productive" introspection...

This isn't called self-reflection, but a statement of facts. Regarding:

Quote: Hagen

And besides icebreakers, the country at least began to produce its own products, something that no General Secretary who succeeded Khrushchev had achieved since Khrushchev.

At least in the USSR the products were natural, not harmful to health, and did not cost an exorbitant amount of money.
I'm not going to argue with people who don't accept the facts.
All to you! Until!

[hagen]

Quote: ROSS 42

At least in the USSR the food was natural.

But not everyone had enough. That's a fact, and only Muscovites won't admit it. Are you from Moscow by any chance?

I'm not going to argue with people who don't accept the facts.

Where did you provide the facts?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Hagen

Are you by any chance from Moscow?

"42" is the region number...

[hagen]

Quote: ROSS 42

"42" is the region number...

Well, the cards are in your hands. If you're over 60, you might remember the joke that circulated in the 80s about a sausage roll containing nothing but toilet paper. I was living in Chelyabinsk at that time, already quite old, and I can talk for hours about the "quality" of products, like the "bluebird" that cost five rubles. It's just that the unpleasant details in memories fade over time, leaving mostly pleasant memories of youth and childhood.

[Zoer]

Quote: Hagen

But not everyone had enough of them.

Before Gorbachev's perestroika, everyone had enough of everything. No need for rants. And the population of the USSR was growing by 1 million a year, including in the RSFSR. But under today's conditions, we're already losing 1 million a year, even taking into account the helicopter-style distribution of passports to Central Asians. So think about who lacked what, and when.

[hagen]

Quote: Zoer

Before Gorbachev's perestroika, everyone had enough of everything.

Are you sure you lived in the USSR at that time? If you want to know what life was like in the USSR, at least read history books. I take it you have no personal experience of living in the non-Moscow USSR in the 1980s. I don't need to hear your fantasies. I lived back then and I remember what it was like.

[Zoer]

Quote: Hagen

As I understand it, you have no personal experience of living in the 1980s in the non-Moscow USSR.

Yes. I remember it too. No need to make up stories. And I remember it not only from my small homeland, the Leningrad suburbs, but also from various regions of the USSR, from my parents' small homelands, where we traveled every year.

[Zoer]

Quote: ROSS 42

Which governors have shown initiative in developing their region's economy (other than Kadyrov)?

Furgal. Kadyrov isn't one of those. He's simply channeling the money from Moscow to Grozny. There's zero initiative there.

[WIS]

Quote from cytadell

Let the US and Israel get involved in Iran and get stuck there like we are in the Northeast Asian region.

To make them bear their own losses and pay for their selfishness is not Christian - but it is a lesser evil.

It’s strange, but I want to ask: Who benefits from what the Jews did to Palestine?

[Revolver]

Quote from WIS

It’s strange, but I want to ask: Who benefits from what the Jews did to Palestine?

It’s strange, but I want to ask: did it create problems for anyone?

[Commissar77]

I'd like to ask, how is Brighton Beach doing?

[Revolver]

Quote: Military Commissar77

I'd like to ask, how is Brighton Beach doing?

I don't know. I haven't been there since before COVID.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Nagan

It’s strange, but I want to ask: did it create problems for anyone?

It indirectly showed that nine million Jews, half of whom were from the USSR (Russia), disregarded all the recommendations and advice of the once-great nuclear power, its interests, and all its might. This is a blow to our country's prestige...
Although, what am I talking about...

[cytadell]

Who benefits from what the Jews did to Palestine?

First of all, to those who stood behind them (the Jews).
But now he decided to get into it himself, and that’s a completely different matter.
Of course, if the US overcomes Iran, just as Israel overcame Palestine, then your insinuation will be correct. The answer to the question of "who benefits" will depend on who stands up for Iran and whether they have the resolve and courage.

[isv000]

Quote: Arkady007

It seems that Donya is having days when he has to think first and only then speak.

Donya is approaching his critical period, when it's time to consider the eternal question: whether to chatter or finally leave gracefully after his second term. After all, he was "interfered" with the first, and now, with the second, the coca dancer is being interfered with again...

[bondov]

Aid from Russia and China, the refusal of key countries to participate in the adventure against Iran, the cooling of relations with Europe, major unrest and instability in the United States - circumstances extremely unfavorable for Judeo-Protestants... Unrest and destabilization in the United States will only increase as the setbacks in the war mount... Tucker Carlson is already openly talking about the collapse of the United States....

[Proxima]

Quote: bondov

Tucker Carlson is already openly talking about the collapse of the United States....

Not bad of course it would be, but something tells me that the value of these forecasts is equal to the value of forecasts about the rapid devaluation of the dollar.

[bondov]

This is exactly what is happening right now - the devaluation of the dollar:
https://www.tradingkey.com/analysis/forex/usd/261532251-usd-dollar-fed-2026-index-forecast-tradingkey

The US Dollar Index fell below 97.0 in January 2026, reaching a four-year low. This decline was driven by a Federal Reserve policy pivot

any negative event, and there will be plenty of them, will have a dramatic impact on
dollar...

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: bondov

This is exactly what is happening right now - the devaluation of the dollar.

It's worth noting here that this is happening with the active support of Trump, who is interested in devaluing the dollar. After all, he's decided to bring manufacturing back to the US and make goods "Made in the USA," but the dollar is expensive, and selling goods abroad is unprofitable; they won't be able to compete with China and other manufacturers... so they're pushing the dollar down.

And if the Trump administration were against weakening the dollar, we would see such tariffs against Europe/Great Britain, etc., that everyone would suddenly change their minds about selling the dollar, i.e., the US has plenty of tools for coercion... and here the Americans are clearly dumping their currency.

[Kalmykov Eduard]

Then Red Donnie is putting the cart before the horse. First, we need to restore production, and then devalue the currency, not the other way around.

[Kalmykov Eduard]

And then, devaluation is beneficial when domestic transactions are conducted in the national currency and foreign trade in dollars. But if the dollar is used in both, what's the benefit?

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Eduard Kalmykov

And then, devaluation is beneficial when domestic transactions are conducted in the national currency and foreign trade in dollars. But if the dollar is used in both, what's the benefit?

Well, firstly, the Americans have a trade deficit; selling their goods will remedy the situation. Secondly, they'll tie their satellites and allies even more tightly to the dollar. If you want to buy American goods, then buy dollars.

And what's the situation now? Why has China risen so sharply, and why is Trump so furious about the Chinese? Because of the weakening of the yuan and the undervaluation of the exchange rate... to support their own manufacturers, meaning the Chinese are getting huge advantages through currency manipulation, while the US has long wanted the yuan to be fairly valued (meaning it should be more valuable), but the Chinese are being cunning.

Why now, I have no idea... Maybe the Americans have already built production facilities and are ready for a new phase, but if it weren't for the Trump administration's desire, the dollar wouldn't have fallen so much... They have a lot of tools to support the dollar, but the dollar is falling... That means it's beneficial to Trump and his team; otherwise, we would have seen completely different measures.

[Kalmykov Eduard]

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Russia and China are devaluing their national currencies against the dollar, but how do you devalue the dollar against the dollar?

[Kalmykov Eduard]

The dollar is falling because of the wild discrepancy between the money supply and the real gross national product (provided by real material production, not inflated by stock market bubbles)

[bondov]

forgot to add to the fantasy that the US has never been
The US is an export-oriented country, it has a fairly capacious and fairly wealthy domestic market... The US is not Germany or Japan... etc. When they talk about American isolationism - if you've heard of it - it's simply impossible with active foreign trade.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: bondov

The US has never been
export-oriented country

Everything flows, everything changes... Trump is not just destroying the global Western system, but he wants to replace it with his own version, where Make America Great Again, and in his understanding, we need to return production home to the USA, and the Americans already have the technology... try producing chips without American permission, all the necessary patents are there.

Europe is starting to get out of hand, and the Chinese are actively exploring the market. How can they be displaced when China is the world's leading producer of everything imaginable? An alternative needs to be offered, which is what Trump seems determined to do.

[Aleksandr21]

And the stories with Venezuela, Greenland, and Iran fit right into this picture... why do the Americans need Venezuelan oil? Why do the Americans need Greenland's resources? What do the Americans want from the Iranians?

Trump envisions a transformation of America where the US will replace China in terms of production... plus, the division into blocs is already underway, and a final break requires an alternative to China's role, but so far no one can replace them. And Trump doesn't want to hand over Western markets (the EU, Canada, the UK, etc.) to the Chinese, as this would lead to a loss of US influence, with negative consequences for America.

[bondov]

make America Great Again, and in his understanding, production needs to be brought back home to the US, and the Americans already have the technology

...you yourself write that they have everything and want to bring industry back home—that is, they don't really need anyone, and their main problem is their colossal debt. If they deliberately devalue the dollar, then to service the interest payments they will have to print colossal sums with a cheap dollar.
This will cause inflation, to the point where production is unable to plan its own development... a recession will begin... no one in the US wants that...

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: bondov

their main problem is a colossal debt,

That's not really a problem. Japan, China, and so on have colossal debts. Can the US service that debt? Yes. And no one plans to repay the entire amount...

The problem for the US now is the loss of influence in foreign markets... China is literally nipping at its heels, and the Americans intend to completely turn the situation around.

[bondov]

The United States has never even exported its own cars. The United States has traditionally exported weapons, civilian aircraft, processors... and more recently, oil and gas...
The rest isn't so much... that's why Trump is boldly introducing tariffs, because the US market is one of the most attractive for manufacturers, including, of course, domestic manufacturers...

[Cool90]

The value of other forecasts that Russia's economy is in tatters is also zero.

[Mitka]

If only the ship with the litaks would sink to the bottom!!!

[Cool90]

That wouldn't be bad, but I think the Persians are screwed and are unlikely to be able to pull it off.

[Grits]

Quote: Mitka

If only the ship with the litaks would sink to the bottom!!!

Or at least seriously damaged. Incidentally, an aircraft carrier doesn't have to be sunk for it to cease functioning. It's enough to damage the flight deck or tilt it slightly. And that's it—planes can't take off or land. And the carrier turns into a huge, useless trough amid the waves, which still needs to be guarded. And if the aviation fuel catches fire, it's a real beauty—a charred iron trough looks much more impressive.

[Mikhail Drabkin]

bondov:

Aid from Russia... major unrest and instability in the United States - circumstances extremely unfavorable for Judeo-Protestants... Tucker Carlson is already openly talking about the collapse of the United States...

- Are you by any chance from the FBI or the CIA? Such quality of analysis and quantity of arguments, especially about “help from Russia and China,” will certainly cool the head of the cowardly Donnie.

Thank God that at least Naryshkin showed his steel gear on February 22, 2022!

[Cool90]

Keep your cool and don't worry about the pervert Trump.

[bondov]

Donnie has already openly stated several times that he is a dictator... Dictatorships arise during times of crisis and/or turning points in a country's history, i.e., Trump is already preparing for, to put it mildly, trouble—for the aforementioned circumstances and a possible failure with Iran... P.S. Actually, it's very interesting to debate with a deaf-blind person...

[Revolver]

Generations of Russians are born, live, and die in the expectation that the dollar and America are about to collapse.

[Cyril76]

Oh. It's too late, I think.

[Santa Fe]

The Americans won't be able to capture the Ayatollah like they captured Maduro, because the Ayatollah could blow himself up right on the plane.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Santa Fe

because the ayatollah could blow himself up right on the plane

Usually, all these ayatollahs, caliphs, fathers of nations and others are in no hurry to get to heaven.

[populist]

I wonder if China is supplying the equipment with or without personnel. We're unlikely to be able to supply it with personnel, but China is quite capable. Moreover, Iran was promised comprehensive assistance from China. Without personnel, this equipment will most likely be dead weight.

[Chetelodicoafare1]

The Chinese have certainly already deployed their own experienced personnel to operate the technological systems they sent, since they did not have time to train Iranian staff. For China, this is a real proving ground.

[WIS]

Quote: Chetelodicoafare1

For China, this is a real proving ground.

If so, then the outcome is calculated and we can "go home", there will be no movie... (winners are not judged)
Otherwise, you will have to answer for mistakes (interference)

[Cool90]

The PRC, with its personnel, was already supporting Venezuela, and in the end, both the Chinese and the Venezuelans never left their deployment points and did not take any action against the Americans. And although on the LostAmour website (a site I personally respect), a character is tearing his ass up for America, it is clear that everything was bought.

[dnestr74]

If only we could get it deployed in time, I think they would have brought in specialists too.

[taiga2018]

Any weapon other than nuclear is useless. I think everyone will agree that Trump will never have any complaints about North Korea, even if the entire country were awash in oil and flooding the US with drugs.

[Dmitry Mikhailovich Seregin]

I agree. And most importantly, North Korea has political will. Even one warhead costs 10,000.

[easy]

If Iran gets wrecked, too, then Russia and China's prestige will plummet. Then the rest of the world will simply turn its back on us. But a good neighbor is worth cherishing and helping in times of need. They've been a great supporter, haven't they?

[Shumi2010]

Well... everyone can see that keeping money in the West is a pretty bad idea. That's already a significant contingent.
We should also send a few more regiments to Cuba (like with Yazov)

[Cool90]

Well, for the prestige of China and Russia to fall, Iran needs to be destroyed, but at the moment Iran has not been destroyed and its prestige has not fallen.

[Grits]

Quote: forester

If Iran is also destroyed, then the prestige of Russia and China will plummet. Then the rest of the world will simply turn its back on us.

After this, the entire Caucasus and Central Asia won't just stop shaking hands with us, but will immediately run to Trump to beg for a new anti-Russian and anti-Chinese alliance. We'll have a bunch of countries on our borders with such anti-Russian hysteria that Ukraine's will seem like a piece of cake. These countries will happily invite American bases, and the borders will be practically open. This will be such a headache it's scary to even imagine. But either Putin and Xi don't understand this or they're completely paralyzed by fear of Trump.

[501 Legion]

More flights
It's time to help the Persians

[gsev]

Quote: 501Legion

More flights
It's time to help the Persians

If China doesn't contribute with its air force, Iran is unlikely to survive. China and Iran should have deployed Chinese troops to Iran in advance.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: gsev

China and Iran should have deployed Chinese troops to Iran in advance.

When the Syrian conflict began, our forces discussed with the Persians the use of Iranian airfields for our aircraft, but Tehran refused, citing the Constitution, which prohibits the deployment of foreign troops on their territory. I don't think they've changed anything since then.

[gsev]

Quote: Nyrobsky

I don't think they've changed anything there during this time.

That's exactly what I meant. You can't be more Syrian or Iranian than they are.

[Cool90]

At the moment, we don't know whether Iran will survive, so there's no need for boasting.

[Incvizitor]

God willing, there will be profit from the special warheads, hazelnuts for the Zionist bunkers.

[Doctor]

It seems that the turmoil in China was not connected with Taiwan, but with Iran...

[rocket757]

If you think about it, they sent a lot of things to Venezuela too, and... a donkey with a sack of gold turned out to be more effective.
Of course, Iran is not Venezuela, but still....

[g_ae]

The main thing is that it doesn't turn out like in Venezuela. There, too, it seemed like planes arrived, but the locals simply blew it all away. But here in the East, everything is bought and sold.

[Fisher]

You can bet whatever you want and as much as you want, the question is how to manage it all.

[opuonmed]

Something flew into that same place, oh yeah, Venezuela! We'll see what happens, keep watching.

Emergency logistics on this scale indicate the transfer of critical technologies or heavy weaponry.

Or export of something

[Russian Patriot]

Yeah. Did our special flights also fly to Venezuela before Maduro's epic kidnapping?
And what's the use?
In my opinion, these are planes for the evacuation of their citizens.
There is no help left for religious Iranian fanatics

[Owl]

It is also necessary to save Cuba, escort tankers, and deliver oil.

[d.zacharith]

I believe that Iran can be saved from Trump, but Cuba is 100% lost.

[Cool90]

It turns out that the boasting about the US isn't working.

[Gavrilo Princip]

What's stopping you from saving Cuba?

[isv000]

The loss of Iran would not only be a blow to BRICS but also a US access to the Caspian Sea and, consequently, practically Russia's borders. China would also be hurt, as it has advantages in Central Asia. The Persians, meanwhile, would fall back into vassalage for decades to come. So, reality itself suggests a military alliance between North Korea, China, Iran, Russia, and other sympathizers, reformatted into a BRICS military bloc, is needed—otherwise, they'll be crushed one by one.

[eugen_caro]

Yeah, especially China... Starmer was in Beijing the other day, and half an hour later the Chinese Foreign Minister declared that Russians in Ukraine should refrain from further escalation, human rights violations, and other such things... those are our "brothers and partners."

[solar]

The Persians will once again fall into a vassal pit for many decades.

Iran under the Shah was a perfectly normal country. Not without its flaws, of course, but perfectly normal.

[isv000]

Quote from solar

Iran under the Shah was a perfectly normal country. Not without its flaws, of course, but perfectly normal.

Even today, you can find plenty of such images. As for a normal country, when the Shah took over, all the lucrative oil fields in Iran automatically fell to the arrogant Yankees. What a state of sovereignty...

[Fan-fan]

The Americans will fearlessly fire Tomahawks at Iran from afar. First, they'll knock out the radar and air defense systems, and then, calmly, like at a shooting gallery, they'll begin destroying military bases and critical industrial facilities. They have over 5 Tomahawks, and if they spare their missiles, they'll call in the air force.

[Cool90]

And if they can't knock out radar and air defense systems with their caps, will they be able to calmly destroy military bases and key industrial facilities like in a shooting gallery? They only have about 3 rusty Tomahawks (some of which have nuclear warheads, which are not applicable against Iran). If they spare their missiles, they could end up with hundreds of their own planes shot down.

[ximkim]

Looks like these shipments are late.
A series of car bombings involving people has occurred in Iran.

[WIS]

Quote: ximkim

A series of explosions rocked Iran

household gas
air conditioners

[Revolver]

Quote from WIS

Quote: ximkim

A series of explosions rocked Iran

household gas
air conditioners

pagers

[Pavel Patrashov]

Iran needs good torpedoes to sink a couple of aircraft carriers, and our countries could practice this too.

[WIS]

Quote: Pavel Patrashov

I need some good torpedoes to practice with.

Even a first-class airplane track can look like a dummy.
With torpedoes it’s more complicated, especially with warheads.
But overall the ideas are good!
Then apologize.

[GEV67]

Before the overthrow of the monarchy and the rise of religious fundamentalists to power, Iran maintained relatively close and multifaceted relations with both Tsarist Russia and the Soviet Union. However, following the radical transformation of the political system, characterized by the growing influence of religious extremist forces that view all non-Muslims as potential enemies, the prospects for a strategic partnership between Iran and Russia appear extremely uncertain.

[Cool90]

Before its radical transformation, Iran was the United States' most loyal ally. Look at their weapons in the 70s and 80s.

[Roman 11]

I think everything will be fine with Iran. Trump might fire a couple of shots, but they didn't just send in the naval group for no reason...

But there's no point in trying to crack nuts with Iran. A ground operation is needed to solve serious problems, with a change in leadership. This requires a force of 100 to 150, in short, like the first war with Saddam. But Iran isn't Iraq in terms of power, and it's not completely isolated—Russia and China will support it.

and another point, even if a ground attack happens, it could drag on, and he is interested in intimidation, lightning-fast operations, and small losses in his army

[Cool90]

The US Central Command report states that as of April 30, 2003, 466,985 US troops plus US allies were involved in the invasion of Iraq, and this was against Iraq, which did not resist. At least a million are needed against Iran, and if the Iranians, unlike the Iraqis, resist, then even this will not be enough.

[Roman 11]

Quote: Kull90

466,985 military personnel were involved

It's possible, but it's unknown how many are in the first line.

But I remembered the Gulf War for a different reason, and not in 2003, but in 1991, when it was in a complete blockade, largely "thanks" to our top brass led by the hunchback, for the sake of truth, Saddam was the aggressor, then only the Germans did not go into Iraq, they were not ready yet, they had just united

In any case, a major war is unlikely - we need to provide huge forces, and that costs money, and then we'll have to abandon the Svidomites to their fate

[Revolver]

It would be enough to bomb the IRGC's leadership and forces, but the people there are far from happy with the regime. During the last uprising, they waved Shah-era flags and shouted, "Pahlavi is back!"

[WIS]

Military supplies from Russia and China are arriving in Iran.

In short, don't pass it by!

[north 2]

Iran needs to be supplied with weapons now, along with specialists who can integrate, operate, and maintain them. There's no time for the Iranians to learn this. Perhaps that's true. Of course, it would be very important if, in countries like Iran and Venezuela, which are positioned as friendly to Russia, Russian foreign intelligence agents had long been embedded in the highest echelons of power in both Iran and Venezuela. Perhaps then, Russia would have long since realized that, for example, Venezuela's military leadership has no intention of using Russian-supplied weapons against the US in the event of US aggression. It's easier for them to surrender even their own president without a fight.
Cuban intelligence was probably productive and successful in Venezuela and insisted to Madura that Cubans were better off guarding him than Venezuelans. Russia should have had its own intelligence officers like that in Iran, too. But the days of Russian foreign intelligence chiefs like Fitin's are probably long gone.

[UA3QHP]

Trump likes to start on weekends, while the stock exchanges are closed. We'll see.

[igorra]

Weapons are important, of course, but the hands that wield them are even more important. Venezuela is a case in point.

[oleg_627]

We and China have hypersonic missiles; we need to deliver a powerful strike against the entire American naval group at least once, and then destroy all the bases in the Persian Gulf. If Iran takes out Trump, then it'll get to us. He doesn't care that he posted a photo with Putin; he'll take it down later and go.

[Cool90]

The fact that Trump, the pedophile who sucks Clinton's dick, will get to Iran (someone's fantasy for now) doesn't mean he can do anything against Russia. Let me remind you that Russia is the only country capable of destroying the United States.

[Vovavvs]

It's time for Russia to pay its dues. In particular, for the fact that it was the Iranian "Shaheds" who prevented the disgrace of the Karabakh War in the Northeast Asian region.

[Cool90]

The S-300, Tor, and Buka air defense systems prevented a Karabakh war, and Russia currently holds 20% of Nazi-occupied Ukraine.

[Vertuhai 2003]

They also came to Venezuela and it didn't help...

[PavelKosse]

It looks like the Americans will be roasted somewhere around here. Hopefully, the Anchorage-style "chats" will gradually fade away. Dmitriev himself might end up bringing Trump "direct investment" packages, and end up staying there. For complicity or something else.

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: Hagen

Quote: TermNachTER

The author also forgot to mention the railway from China to Iran, through Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan.

The Americans would crush both the Uzbeks and the Kazakhs in the blink of an eye, and they would block all the roads to Iran, which is under their jurisdiction. So I wouldn't count on that railway. But a sea route across the Caspian to Bandar Abbas, and then an internal railway to Tehran—that's a different matter. But they used air power, so time is of the essence... I wonder if our people don't want to test Bastion against real targets?

Right.
Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, and what can I say, the entire former Turkestan Military District, have become the West's lackeys, welcomingly spreading their buttocks.
Nazarbay's son/grandson hangs out in London, getting completely drunk every night. It's no coincidence that Tony Blair worked there as an advisor.
The United States will cut off all supplies to Iran without any effort; the third secretary of the embassy will simply call Tokay and give the order.
Only sea and air remain for deliveries.

[Vasyan1971]

Emergency logistics on this scale indicate the transfer of critical technologies or heavy weaponry.

As long as it's beneficial. And not like in Venezuela.

[aszzz888]

Emergency logistics on this scale indicate the transfer of critical technologies or heavy weaponry.

I really hope that this will help if there is an attack by the Merikatos and the Jews.

[snow mountain]

Quote from ZnachWest

Trump calls these days critical. Feel sorry for the guy.

Is he a trans?

[Zefr]

If the US is going to attack Iran anyway, what is Iran waiting for? Full readiness to attack?

[Got it]

In Venezuela too, planes with secret cargo also arrived, but the result is known to everyone.

[Vovavvs]

Too often, the names of the leaders of our important military missions coincide with those of generals who performed disastrously in the Northern Military District. They're accustomed to participating in shameful "deals" at the expense of the Motherland's interests. These aren't the Rokhlins, Prigozhins, or Zakharchenkos of blessed memory.

[savage3000]

Through the joint efforts of Russia and China, using rather modest resources, they can establish a first- and second-tier anti-aircraft "dome" over Iran and effectively establish a no-fly zone in the region.
+ + + + + + + + +

Svetlyshev, did you come up with this nonsense yourself or did someone suggest it? Explain why?

[AdAstra]

Something was also arriving in Venezuela, and then suddenly Maduro was awakened by American "elephant seals."

[Vovavvs]

Winning the first battle doesn't mean winning the war. Afghanistan and Vietnam will confirm this.

[Igorash]

We already sent it...and the same thing happened again.
What's happening in Syria, Venezuela... If Iran is destroyed, then some people will simply have to shoot themselves, because their place and role in what's happening will be completely lost... China has drawn conclusions and learned from Stalin...

[Igorash]

One eagle and a couple of nuclear submarines are enough. In 1976, the USSR thus prevented US intervention in the war between India and Pakistan over the future of Bangladesh. The Indians then smashed Pakistan to smithereens, and Bangladesh was formed.

[Lisa Kerner-Timoshenko]

And no one will help Cuba...these mullahs are closer to them than the Cubans.

[Pravodel]

Military supplies from Russia and China are arriving in Iran.

Russia, too, could wage a proxy war against the Anglo-Saxons using Iranian forces, and, through 10-100 hands, for example, supply several "Tsirkons" or "Daggers", "teaching" the Iranian military to fire these things at Anglo-Saxon irons.
One tablet of "zircon" is enough to turn a US floating iron (aircraft carrier) into a leaky trough, and some destroyer, the Arleigh Burke, into shark food... Something similar happened to the small British destroyer Sheffield during the war with Argentina... So, the Iranians, too, can successfully fire at some American trough...
We have nothing to be embarrassed about. Iran provides an excellent opportunity to test our weapons against the Anglo-Saxon irons and their mongrels...
Last year, our military-industrial complex earned $16 watermelons from weapons sales, and if we damage an iron or, even better, sink some trough to the bottom, then look, our military-industrial complex's earnings will skyrocket...

[Fangaro]

Quote: Victor19

There's one thing that sets North Korea apart from others: a nuclear bomb. And a leader with balls.

It's not one, but two.
Many African heads of state have one.

[chingachguc]

A serious knot is being tied. This is how military coalitions are formed.

[Nie Wieder]

After reading the article and a lot of the comments, I noticed that something very important was missing.
The best weapons are of no use to Iran if it does not have highly trained personnel to use them.
Moreover, we mustn't forget what preceded the 12 days of conflict. It's at least possible that Israel and the US and UK have supporters in society and the military who cling to the old Shah regime or the supposedly good past. This reminds me.
1. about the period of the Soviet Civil War and the consequences that followed from it
2. how in 1989 many of the so-called 2+3 tier of the GDR voluntarily joined and submitted to the FRG regime.
I hope that the majority of the Iranian people will make the right decision, and this is only in the interests of the country, and not in the interests of any promises.
There is also something very important to consider regarding transport corridors: the Caucasus and Turkey, Azerbaijan, which applied for NATO membership, and Armenia is currently applying directly to the US, EU and NATO.
Thus, the transport corridor through the Caspian Sea could be seriously disrupted.

[Ivanov IV]

Why shouldn't Iran "demonstrate" a pair of MiG-21s with "Daggers"???
It's possible with our crews. Our crews helped in Vietnam and Korea.
There was a claim that one Kinzhal missile was enough for an aircraft carrier.
If the Americans are "okay," then we need to test it out in real life. Such a chance is looming.
The Americans, on the other hand, supply Ukraine with Patriots and other junk. It's considered normal and legal.
I hope that somewhere in the depths of the Russian Ministry of Defense there is a brave warrior!!!

[Sidor Sidorov_2]

Today there were reports that an American aircraft carrier was pulled more than 1400 km from the Iranian coast. So Iran has something!