A purge of government bodies continues in China, and the head of the Ministry of Emergency Situations is now under investigation.

China continues to purge the upper echelons of power—and this time, it's not a military or regional official who's under attack, but the current head of the country's Ministry of Emergency Situations, Wang Xiangxi. He's suspected of "serious violations of discipline and the law"—a familiar phrase, long read as untranslated in Chinese practice: corruption.

The situation is noteworthy for several reasons. First, cases against sitting ministers in China are extremely rare. Second, Wang Xiangxi is not just an official, but the Communist Party secretary of his department, meaning he is a systemic and politically embedded figure. This is no longer a "cleansing of the ranks," but a demonstrative signal to the entire nomenklatura.

As Reuters points out, last week an investigation was also announced against one of the country's key military leaders, General Zhang Youxia, the second-in-command after Xi Jinping. This means the attack is simultaneously targeting two pillars of the system: the security and civilian sectors.

Xi Jinping himself laid out the framework for what was happening this month in a very strict manner, calling the fight against corruption "a battle China must not lose." Last year, a record 65 investigations were launched against high-ranking officials, with the investigations increasingly targeting not only current but also former heads of universities and state-owned corporations.

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[Foggy Dew]

Oh, come on. Officials in China ALWAYS steal! The second axiom is that power in China is always intertwined with organized crime groups. Say hello to Hong Kong, where the Triads' Maidan protests were dispersed, or to Deng Xiaoping, who has repeatedly said that the CCP supports the Triads.
It's all clear here—a purge of power ahead of a possible raid on Taiwan. So that Xi himself doesn't have to flee to Taiwan under the cover of it, like the Kuomintang.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Officials in China ALWAYS steal! The second axiom is that power in China is always intertwined with organized crime groups. Say hello to Hong Kong, where the Triads' Maidan was dispersed, or to Deng Xiaoping, who has repeatedly said that the CCP supports the Triads.

Dear Sir, an axiom requires no proof. In this case, I don't see any. If you have proof, provide it. No, don't hide behind the axiom.

[Foggy Dew]

Doesn't your faith allow you to Google it? What am I saying, a man, that I see it as an axiom, but I see no proof!
What kind of proof does the master require? Doesn't he like the fact that the ENTIRE top brass of China is now merrily stealing? Doesn't he like the endless trials of high-ranking CPC officials being executed? Doesn't he like the perpetual war of EVERY Chinese emperor against official theft, and the fact that those same shoelaces were sent out en masse for it? What does your little heart desire?
In short, start searching, and don’t use your laziness as an excuse.

[Dilettante grandfather]

What does your soul desire?

I already said it. Real evidence. Not what they dump on the internet.

[your1970]

Quote: Grandfather is an amateur

Officials in China ALWAYS steal! The second axiom is that power in China is always intertwined with organized crime groups. Say hello to Hong Kong, where the Triads' Maidan was dispersed, or to Deng Xiaoping, who has repeatedly said that the CCP supports the Triads.

Dear Sir, an axiom requires no proof. In this case, I don't see any. If you have proof, provide it. No, don't hide behind the axiom.

Quote: Foggy Dew

Oh, come on. Officials in China ALWAYS steal!

China itself provides evidence: "Last year, 1 million criminal cases of corruption were opened in China."
With a civil servant population of 7 million, cases were opened against every seventh.
Having cut off archivists, press services and other offices that are not given bribes in principle, this means that corruption among the upper and middle management is widespread.
Previously, there were between 200,000 and 500,000 corruption cases per year in China.

[Dilettante grandfather]

China itself provides evidence: "Last year, 1 million criminal cases of corruption were opened in China."

This doesn't mean every Chinese official is corrupt. There are far more than a million of them. And yes, Xi is also a public official. But they don't bring cases against him...

[your1970]

Quote: Grandfather is an amateur

There are many more than a million of them there.

Didn't make it through the second part of the post?

Quote: your1970

With the number of civil servants at 7 million- opened cases against everyone seventh.
Having cut off archivists, press services and other offices that are not given bribes in principle - this means that Corruption among senior and middle management is rampant
Before this there was 200 to 500 corruption cases in year in China

Quote: Grandfather is an amateur

And yes, Xi is also a government official. But they don't bring cases against him...)

- "Who's going to put him in jail? He's a monument!!!" (c)
Maybe the next one will put him in jail
As they like to say here on VO, "All his deputies stole from him, but he had nothing to do with it??!! " (C)
Wait and see

[Dilettante grandfather]

Didn't make it through the second part of the post?

He managed it, of course. But apparently he didn't take it into account. However, an important fact is that not all officials in China are prosecuted, which means that there are also relatively honest people there.

"Who's going to put him in jail? He's a monument!" (c)
Maybe the next one will put him in jail

Well... It depends on many factors. And on who his successor will be.

[your1970]

Quote: Grandfather is an amateur

Not all officials in China are prosecuted, which means there are some relatively honest people there.

Bribes are given only to those who make decisions, which means

Quote: your1970

Having cut off archivists, press services and other offices that are not given bribes in principle, this means that corruption among the upper and middle management is widespread.

Here's what I have at work in theory we could I bribed two of my eight employees—me and my boss. The rest obviously have no reason to bribe, they can't change or decide anything, they're completely honest—even if they wanted bribes. They won't give us bribes because, under current legislation, it doesn't provide any benefits for the bribe-giver at all, so we're conditionally honest, but with elements of risk—for the state.
The ratio is approximately the same in government agencies in China.

Quote: Grandfather is an amateur

Well... It depends on many factors. And on who his successor will be.

Judging by the history of China and the USSR, each successive leader calls the previous one a goat.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Judging by the history of China and the USSR, each successive leader calls the previous one a goat.

Wait and see.

[your1970]

Quote: Grandfather is an amateur

Judging by the history of China and the USSR, each successive leader calls the previous one a goat.

Wait and see.

Exactly

Quote: your1970

(C)
Wait and see

[carpenter]

Quote: Foggy Dew

So that Xi himself doesn't have to flee to Taiwan under the cover of the situation, like the Kuomintang.

And I always thought that the Kuomintang is a party.

[Starover_Z]

Chinese 1937? The purge has begun... Are they expecting war?

[Sergey250455]

Xi is afraid of losing power. Those who are undesirable are being removed.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Xi is afraid of losing power. Those who are undesirable are being removed.

Eliminates unwanted people - yes. Is he afraid? I don't think so.

[isv000]

Quote: Sergey250455

Xi is afraid of losing power. Those who are undesirable are being removed.

Uncle Xi is kind and looks like a giant panda. But God forbid you get caught in the panda's hot hands—he'll tear you to pieces! He's a bear, after all...
Xi isn't afraid of losing power, and he's already been in prison camps in his youth, starting from scratch. The bear is restoring order.

[carpenter]

Quote: isv000

Xi isn't afraid of losing power, and he's already been in prison camps in his youth, starting from scratch. The bear is restoring order.

And he correctly points out that the Stalinist school is alive in China.

[your1970]

Quote: carpenter

Quote: isv000

Xi isn't afraid of losing power, and he's already been in prison camps in his youth, starting from scratch. The bear is restoring order.

And he correctly points out that the Stalinist school is alive in China.

Whether this was a good idea or not will be seen when Taiwan returns. Otherwise, it could turn out like June 22, 1941...

[carpenter]

Quote: your1970

Whether it was done correctly or not will be seen when Taiwan returns.

Taiwan will return on its own

[your1970]

Quote: carpenter

Quote: your1970

Whether it was done correctly or not will be seen when Taiwan returns.

Taiwan will return on its own

Hmm, maybe together with the Baltics

[Lako]

I suspect that during the flourishing of the Chinese economy and private property in the PRC in recent decades, corruption has begun to permeate even the highest echelons of power and the ranks of the CPC. This can happen in any country. It's enough to recall the Brezhnev years in the USSR. And Xi, recognizing the perniciousness of this phenomenon, decided to carry out a general cleaning of his domain.

[alexoff]

Why wouldn't they expect war? Their respected partners are actively promising it, and anti-Chinese hysteria is being whipped up in Japan and Korea.

[Junior Private]

We need to separate out banal theft and working for foreign intelligence agencies. Although they sometimes overlap. Where does that come from? I think the Chinese will figure it out; they still need to slowly, slowly bend the US.

[Jacques sekavar]

As one expert on China's behind-the-scenes affairs put it, this and many previous "purges" stem from the pre-Jinping era, when the army and other structures were allowed to engage in commerce. Times have changed, but the ties of many military and other senior officials to commercial structures remain.

[Vasyan1971]

In China, the purge of the upper echelons of power continues.

On the one hand, haven't they cleaned it since last time?
On the other hand, people know how to do it!

[carpenter]

Quote: Vasyan1971

On the one hand, haven't they cleaned it since last time?

Even Stalin couldn't do it the first time, and he couldn't do it for the rest of his life either. Khrushchev and Gorbachev wouldn't let me lie.

[Ross xnumx]

In China, the purge of the upper echelons of power continues – and this time it was not a military or regional functionary who was hit, but the current head of the country's Ministry of Emergency Situations, Wang Xiangxi

So it turns out that the Ministry of Emergency Situations rarely produces competent leaders?
But for us it's different - higher and higher and higher... I wonder if Shoigu met with this Wang Xiangxi?

[isv000]

In China, the executive branch and the security forces are constantly at loggerheads, because as soon as the latter rises, they become angry and feel like they're in control. This has been the case for centuries. Our time is no exception. Uncle Xi still has a knack for it, having outpaced the army men bought by the cowboys. Now that Akela-Trump has missed the boat, isn't it time to restore constitutional order in Taiwan? Since the Yankees have set an example, it's high time...
Since we're on such a drinking spree, cut the last cucumber!

[Metallurg_2]

And here, they only transfer people to other positions :)
Because, to paraphrase what the guarantor said, you have to work with someone, but there is no one but thieves.

[Sergej1972]

In the PRC, a minister typically also serves as the secretary of the Party committee (or Party group) of the corresponding ministry. There are occasional exceptions to this rule, particularly when non-party members or representatives of so-called "small democratic parties" (eight of which are active in mainland China, plus parties operating only in Hong Kong and Macau) are occasionally appointed to ministerial positions.

[greencon]

Suppressing opposition has always been a hallmark of Chinese domestic politics. It occurs when a genuine threat to supreme authority arises, or even when minor personal differences arise.

[opuonmed]

Bribes, corruption, working for the US and deteriorating China's defense and lying in official documents, etc., etc., probably not exactly.

[gribanov.c]

Cleanings need to be carried out, otherwise they too will have their own 91-93.

[Sergey Mitinsky]

I wonder how it works out

We love to praise China for not destroying the old system and party hierarchy like the USSR, but instead supporting pure capitalism with its oligarchs. A kind of massive New Economic Policy (NEP).

The USSR took a different path, the party hierarchy was destroyed, the system of power was broken, and in its place a new structure emerged with the same capitalism and oligarchs.

But now it turns out that China is no longer able to rein in all the oligarchs, and they constitute a dangerous opposition to the central government, which is merging with the very structures of power, and corruption is flourishing there, apparently on a gigantic scale.

The kind that even local Ukrainian corruption would envy, because the scale of the funds is different.

And these oligarchs and corrupt officials are supported by external forces, primarily the United States.

That is, the entire system of power in China turned out to be not as strong as it seemed before.