The peak of Mikhail Frunze's career and unexpected death

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The peak of Mikhail Frunze's career and unexpected death
People's Commissar M. V. Frunze


Of previous article We recall that in 1921–1922, a group of Soviet military leaders, including our hero, provided significant assistance to the Turkish army in defeating Greek forces and liberating the western part of the country. From Turkey, Frunze returned to his previous post as commander of the troops in Ukraine and Crimea. On April 5, 1923, our hero's second child, Timur, was born in Kharkov.




M. Frunze with his daughter Tatyana and son Timur, 1925.

The peak of Mikhail Frunze's career


The Red Army commander had ambitious plans for reorganizing the troops, whose numbers had been significantly reduced following large-scale demobilization. Meanwhile, in Moscow, many were dissatisfied with the performance of the Chairman of the Revolutionary Military Council, Leon Trotsky. On February 3, 1924, at a plenum of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks), the Secretary of the Central Control Commission, a member of the Board of the People's Commissariat of the Workers' and Peasants' Inspection, and simultaneously the head of the Central Control Commission's Inspectorate for the Army and the fleet S. Gusev (Y. Drabkin) accused him of unwillingness

gradually replace the old specialists and install new workers who grew up here during the Civil War, who are now capable of occupying higher positions.

A ruling was issued on the presence of "serious shortcomings that threaten the army's collapse"In order to "improve the health of the army," a decision was made in March 1924 to reshuffle personnel, and M. Frunze became deputy chairman of the Revolutionary Military Council and People's Commissar for Military and Naval Affairs. In April of the same year, he became head of the General Staff and the Military Academy of the Red Army. Less than a year later, on January 17, 1925, Frunze himself took the post of chairman of the Revolutionary Military Council and People's Commissar for Military and Naval Affairs – and became the youngest (39 years old) head of a military department in the new and modern stories Our country. Along with Trotsky, Antonov-Ovseenko and Sklyansky lost their positions. It's worth noting that it was under Frunze that the Red Army introduced unity of command and territorial division of troops.


Frunze, Voroshilov, Stalin and Ordzhonikidze at the XIV Conference of the RCP (B), April 1925.

The ill-fated stomach operation and Frunze's death


As we recall, from his youth, M. Frunze suffered from severe abdominal pain due to recurring stomach ulcers, which were often complicated by bleeding. Effective medications to suppress gastric acid production did not yet exist, and no one knew about Helicobacter pylori and their role in the development of gastritis and peptic ulcers. Traditionally, a strict diet was prescribed, which often further weakened and asthenized patients. A solution of baking soda was used as a symptomatic treatment. Resection—removal of the ulcer along with part of the stomach—was considered a radical treatment.

During the perestroika years, a version began to be promoted that Frunze was literally forced to undergo stomach surgery, and that he supposedly went under the operating table in obedience to party discipline. This version was based primarily on the unsubstantiated claims of Stalin's secretary, Boris Bazhanov, who had fled abroad. But traitors to Russia abroad have never been (and still are) given free food: a bowl of soup must be earned through lies and slander. This is precisely what the Kurbskys, Bazhanovs, Solzhenitsyns, and Rezuns of all sorts did. Bazhanov claimed that Stalin feared Frunze's Bonapartist aspirations. This was absolute nonsense, since everyone knew that the new People's Commissar categorically avoided participation in intra-party struggles and had no political ambitions. V. Molotov asserts:

Frunze wasn't entirely one of the Bolsheviks. Possessing a unique sense of responsibility, he was more of a talented executor of orders from above than a leader.

And Frunze’s character was such that N. N. Bukharin wrote about him:

This iron commander, before whom his enemies trembled, possessed an exceptionally gentle soul and a truly astonishing softness. His character was noble, open, and straightforward.

It should be noted that in the USSR after Frunze’s death there were also rumors along the same lines:

Oh, cucumbers, tomatoes,
Stalin killed Kirov in the corridor.

(And equally “reasonable”).

Boris Pilnyak even decided, as they would say today, to "catch the hype" – in 1926, he wrote "The Tale of the Unquenched Moon," which recounted the death of the fictional army commander Gavrilov after an operation. Pilnyak himself, by his own admission, “I hardly knew Frunze, I was barely acquainted with him, I saw him twice.”. And I didn't know. "the actual details of his death"The magazine containing Pilnyak's story was withdrawn from sale, but no one laid a finger on him: the country's leaders regarded this, so to speak, work as obvious and completely harmless nonsense. Molotov merely suggested Pilnyak "Don't publish in the top three journals for a year, but publish in others.".

And Stalin wrote:

Pilnyak is cheating and deceiving us.

Pilnyak subsequently became one of the most published Soviet writers. In 1929, he headed the All-Russian Union of Writers. He owned a personal car (a luxury unaffordable even for many high-ranking officials), and his monthly income was 10 times that of a skilled worker. In short, no one took Pilnyak's story seriously.

And what really happened?

There is every reason to believe that Frunze himself insisted on surgical treatment, fearing that constant pain would prevent him from performing effectively in his new position. This is reported, for example, by I. I. Grekov, professor, head of the Department of Hospital Surgery at the Psychoneurological Institute (which became the 2nd Leningrad Medical Institute) and editor-in-chief of the journal "Bulletin of Surgery and Border Regions." The doctors were hesitant and doubtful. Researchers have access to a letter Frunze wrote to his wife 11 days before his death (October 20, 1925), which includes the following words:

I'm still in the hospital. There will be a new consultation on Saturday. I'm completely healthy now. I'm afraid they might refuse the operation..

It should be noted that 17 doctors took part in the consultation that Frunze writes about.

The operation was long overdue, as the responsibility was extremely high and the outcome uncertain. When the high-ranking patient insisted, he was told bluntly that the operation would be difficult and would not guarantee a cure.

The doctors were absolutely right, as gastric resection surgeries were highly traumatic, and the technique was not fully refined: in the relatively prosperous year of 1913, only 297 such operations were performed in the entire Russian Empire (in 1928, the figure was 942). Mortality after gastric resections in the 1920s was 7-8%, with postoperative disability for those engaged in physical labor ranging from 5 to 6 months. Quality of life after gastric resection was sometimes worse than before the surgery, with disability rates reaching up to 30%.

Anesthesiology wasn't very developed either, and complications during anesthesia induction were not uncommon. The main drug of the time was ether, characterized by a slow onset and recovery. Even worse was chloroform, one of its breakdown products being... phosgene. Chloroform weakens the heart and often causes dangerous arrhythmias.

In any case, after three consultations, the decision to perform a gastric resection was made. The operation was scheduled for October 29, 1925, at Soldatenkovskaya (now Botkin) Hospital. The resection was performed by the experienced and respected surgeon Vladimir Rozanov, who had operated on Stalin in 1921 (removing his appendix) and on Lenin in 1922 (removing bullets from the assassination attempt on Lenin on August 30, 1918). In 1910, he founded and headed the surgical department of Soldatenkovskaya Hospital. In 1929, Rozanov became chief physician of the Kremlin Hospital, and in 1932, he received the title Hero of Labor. Building 10 of Moscow's Botkin Hospital and Pushkin Hospital (Moscow Region) bear his name.


V. Rozanov

The aforementioned I. Grekov, who at that time was the head of the surgical department of the Obukhov hospital and headed the N. I. Pirogov surgical society, came from Leningrad to help him.


I. Grekov in the operating room

Another of Rozanov's assistants was Professor A. Martynov, head of the surgical department of the Moscow University Medical Faculty Clinic and dean of that faculty (which would become the First Moscow Medical University named after Sechenov). He authored numerous works on the surgical treatment of diseases of the biliary tract, thyroid gland, and pancreas. In 1927, he and Grekov removed a stone from Academician I. Pavlov's bile duct, and in 1932, Pavlov dedicated a monograph to Martynov, "An Attempt at a Physiological Understanding of the Symptomatology of Hysteria." Martynov also operated on the seriously wounded Grigory Kotovsky. It is also worth noting that Martynov was called "a man with golden hands," "a reformer of medical education," and "the conscience of Russian surgery."


A. Martynov

The responsibility for administering anesthesia was entrusted to Alexei Ochkin, who had previously served as the head of the First Cavalry Army Hospital. In 1928, he became head of the surgical service at the Kremlin Hospital, served as chief oncologist of the 4th Directorate, and headed the surgery department at the Central Institute for Advanced Medical Studies. A bust of Professor Ochkin can be seen in front of the surgical department of Moscow's Botkin Hospital.


In addition to the experienced nurses, there were eight highly respected doctors with impeccable reputations in the operating room. It's hard to imagine that they were all in cahoots, and not one of them, suspecting something was wrong, asked, "Colleagues, what are you actually doing?" Or wrote a report later about the errors made during the operation—as Lidiya Timashuk did, claiming that the Kremlin doctors missed Zhdanov had a myocardial infarction. Incidentally, she was absolutely right: they say that on the surviving electrocardiogram, the line draws a typical "cat's back" pattern, and, furthermore, the diagnosis "infarction in the area of ​​the anterior wall of the left ventricle and the interventricular septum of the myocardium" was confirmed at the autopsy.

Problems with the high-ranking patient began even before the operation began: Frunze was resistant to anesthesia, requiring an increased dose of ether, then chloroform, which, as we recall, is cardiotoxic. As a result, his blood pressure and heart rate began to drop, and Frunze was given adrenaline—an effective but very dangerous drug. Frunze emerged from anesthesia and remained conscious, but developed severe arrhythmia, complicated by heart failure.

Incidentally, after the operation, Rozanov did not allow Stalin and Mikoyan, who had come to visit him, into Frunze's room, and Joseph Vissarionovich had to limit himself to a note with the following content:

I was at Comrade Rozanov's today at 5 pm (Mikoyan and I). We wanted to come see you, but he wouldn't let us, the nasty thing. We were forced to submit to force.

This is about the extent to which this doctor obeyed the orders of the highest leaders of the state.

Despite all the doctors' efforts, Frunze's heart stopped beating on October 31 at 5:40 a.m. Despite all his victories and enormous service to Soviet Russia, he had by that time been awarded only two Orders of the Red Banner and the Honorary Revolutionary Order. weapons.

M. Frunze's autopsy was performed by the renowned Soviet pathologist, Professor A. Abrikosov. His report stated:

Mikhail Vasilyevich Frunze's illness, as revealed by the autopsy, consisted, on the one hand, of a round ulcer of the duodenum that had scarred and led to the development of cicatricial growths around the duodenum, the opening of the stomach, and the gallbladder. On the other hand, a previous inflammatory process in the abdominal cavity was present as a consequence of the 1916 operation to remove the appendix. The operation, undertaken on October 29, 1925, for the duodenal ulcer exacerbated the existing chronic inflammation, leading to a sharp decline in cardiac function and death. Underdevelopment of the aorta and arteries, as well as a preserved thymus gland, discovered during the autopsy, suggest the body's vulnerability to anesthesia and its poor resistance to infection.

The recent gastrointestinal bleeding observed is explained by superficial ulcerations (erosions) found in the stomach and duodenum and resulting from the above-mentioned cicatricial growths.

Here is the opinion of V.D. Topolyansky, a candidate of medical sciences and associate professor at the I.M. Sechenov Moscow Medical Academy, who examined the autopsy reports of Tsyurupa, Semashko, and Yezhov, and the medical records of Krupskaya and Frunze:

V. N. Rozanov was assisted by Professors I. I. Grekov and A. V. Martynov, and A. D. Ochkin administered anesthesia. P. N. Obrosov, A. M. Kasatkin, A. Yu. Kanel, and L. G. Levin, employees of the Kremlin Medical and Sanitary Department, were present at the operation. Anesthesia was administered for 65 minutes. The patient had difficulty falling asleep before the operation and tolerated the anesthesia poorly. Ether was initially used for general anesthesia, but due to severe and prolonged agitation, chloroform was then used. The operation was only possible after half an hour. The operation lasted 35 minutes. Judging by the surviving documents, the surgical intervention was limited to an examination of Frunze's abdominal organs and the dissection of some adhesions. No ulcers were found. It is impossible to speak of an inept or negligently performed operation. Due to the falling pulse, injections were administered to stimulate cardiac activity. After the operation, cardiac failure was treated, with the participation of B. I. Neiman, a surgeon from Rozanov's department, and Professor D. D. Pletnev. However, the treatments were unsuccessful. Frunze died 39 hours later. The autopsy surgeon recorded: the underdevelopment of the aorta and arteries, as well as the preserved thymus gland, discovered during the autopsy, suggest the patient's instability in the body's response to anesthesia.

Thus, there is simply no basis for speculation about the causes of Frunze's death.

The hero of the article was replaced by Kliment Voroshilov in the posts of Chairman of the Revolutionary Military Council and People's Commissar for Military and Naval Affairs.

The name (or rather, surname) of the article's subject was given to the Military Academy and several military schools in the country, the Central House of the Red Army, as well as higher education institutions, industrial enterprises, stadiums, ships, and other objects. Frunze Peak (Northern Pamir) and Mount Frunze (Irkutsk Oblast) appeared on maps. The city of Pishpek, Frunze's birthplace, was renamed—but in 1991, the capital of Kyrgyzstan changed its name, becoming Bishkek. Kyrgyzstan's Frunze Oblast became Chui Oblast back in 1959. In 2023, the Kyrgyz hypermarket chain "Frunze" changed its name to "Asia." The Frunzensky District disappeared from the map of Moscow, but districts in St. Petersburg, Saratov, Yaroslavl, Vladimir, Ivanovo, Vladivostok, Minsk, and Dushanbe retained their names. There are Frunzenskaya metro stations in Moscow, St. Petersburg, and Minsk. A small town in Moldova still bears Frunze's name. There are Frunze museums in Bishkek (a memorial house-museum) and in Samara—one opened on February 23, 1934, in the house where the subject of this article lived in 1919-1920.

Photographs from the Samara M. Frunze Museum, provided by S. Petrov:


Museum building


Reconstructed Frunze's office

And in this photograph you can see Frunze's grave near the Kremlin wall:


The fate of Mikhail Frunze's wife and children


Frunze's wife, Sofia Alekseyevna, had not enjoyed robust health since her youth. Her condition was exacerbated by severe depression. Even on the eve of the operation (October 26, 1925), Frunze wrote to her:

What's this, you're really being overwhelmed by all these illnesses! There are so many of them that it's hard to believe you can ever recover... You have to pull yourself together first. Otherwise, everything's just getting worse and worse for us... I once heard someone say something about us: "The Frunze family is so tragic... Everyone's sick, and all the misfortunes are raining down on us!" And truly, we feel like we're one big, continuous hospital.

Sofia Alekseyevna's depression worsened sharply after her husband's death. In September 1926, she committed suicide, leaving two children orphaned: six-year-old Tatyana and three-year-old Timur. They were initially taken in by Frunze's mother, 70-year-old Mavra Efimovna, but in 1931 she too died. The decision regarding the fate of the Frunze children was made at the highest level. Ultimately, they were given to the Voroshilov family, who had no children of his own—only an adopted son, Pyotr (this boy, brought from Tsaritsyn, besieged by the Whites, became a renowned military designer and rose to the rank of lieutenant general). From 1920 to 1928, the Voroshilov family also raised Leonid Nesterenko, the son of a mechanic at the Lugansk Locomotive Plant and a future professor at the Kharkov Polytechnic Institute.


K. E. Voroshilov with M. Frunze's children

In addition, the secretary of the Presidium of the Central Executive Committee, A. Yenukidze, and the deputy chairman of the Moscow City Council, I. Lyubimov, a close friend of Frunze who worked with him in Ivano-Voznesensk and Turkestan (he was a member of the Revolutionary Military Council of the Turkestan Front), were appointed guardians of Tatyana and Timur.

After finishing school, Tatyana Frunze entered the Higher Military Academy of Chemical Defense of the Red Army.


Tatyana Frunze

After the war began, she worked on tank plant, then returned to study, but this time at the Moscow Chemical-Technical Institute, which she graduated from in 1947. Her place of work became the N. D. Zelinsky Institute of Organic Chemistry, and in the late 1960s she defended her doctoral dissertation.

Timur Frunze, having completed 7 grades of a regular school, transferred to a special (semi-barracks) school artillery profile. But I still chose AviationIn 1940, he entered the Kachin Higher Aviation School, which has produced 352 Heroes of the Soviet Union, 17 Heroes of the Russian Federation, 12 air marshals, and over 200 generals. This educational institution (now the Kachin Higher Military Aviation School of Pilots) was disbanded on November 6, 1997, by order of Yeltsin's Defense Minister I. Sergeyev.

But let's return to 1940 and see that Timur Frunze's classmate was Stepan Mikoyan, the son of the famous People's Commissar, who after the war would become a test pilot, Hero of the Soviet Union, and lieutenant general of the Air Force. He would also play the role of his father in the films "Battle for Moscow" and "Stalingrad."

The head of the course, Nemykin, wrote about Timur Frunze:

I've never met a young man who so eagerly absorbed new knowledge. His interests extend far beyond the curriculum.

During the war, Timur was assigned to the 161st Air Regiment, and his aircraft was the Yak-1.


Mikhail Frunze's only son in a 1942 photograph.

Timur Mikhailovich Frunze managed to fly nine combat sorties, shooting down three aircraft—two personally and one in a tandem. He died on January 19, 1942, and in March of that year, he was posthumously awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union.
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  1. +20
    2 February 2026 06: 22
    It's impossible to even imagine now that the children of such high-ranking officials would fight at the front... Yeah, right. Different times, different people.
    1. +13
      2 February 2026 09: 26
      During the Chechen campaigns, the sons of generals fought and died, so you can’t just lump everyone together.
      1. -1
        2 February 2026 10: 00
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        sons of generals

        And higher?
        1. +9
          2 February 2026 12: 19
          I won't say anything about the above, but there was a deputy's son in our company, we only found out about it when he was wounded and already evacuated
        2. +3
          2 February 2026 23: 36
          Quote: Stas157
          And higher?

          Gerasimov's son fought. Kadyrov's relatives. Where higher?
          1. 0
            3 February 2026 07: 12
            Quote: gsev
            Gerasimov's son fought. Kadyrov's relatives. Where higher?

            Do we no longer have oligarchs? Or are they lower on the consumption pyramid?
            1. -1
              3 February 2026 18: 50
              You're demonstrating remarkable tenacity, despite being told that children from the highest echelons of power in today's Russian Federation also took part in military operations. Reality is different, you're not imagining it. But you don't give up if reality doesn't meet your expectations. To hell with that reality.
              1. -1
                4 February 2026 10: 10
                Quote: Skobaristan
                You demonstrate a lot of persistence.

                And you're demonstrating stupidity. Who were Gerasimov and Kadyrov during the Chechen campaign? Certainly not the country's highest echelon of power! You're trying to project their current high positions onto earlier historical events. Their current influence can't be extrapolated to the events of the 1990s and early 2000s.
                1. +2
                  4 February 2026 11: 32
                  Then we come to what we've already pointed out in the comments: you're trying to superimpose the Great Patriotic War (the mobilization of the entire country) onto local conflicts in modern Russia. (And you don't even have any information about which of the children of those in power are actually in the army. Incidentally, if you were actively promoting this, I think you'd say it's all a lie and a PR stunt.) Essentially, you're deliberately substituting the original data. And when specific individuals are pointed out, you start expressing dissatisfaction that you don't like the examples. And we return to my original point: don't like reality? To hell with it! Reality is what you see.
                  1. +1
                    4 February 2026 12: 14
                    Quote: Skobaristan
                    Then we move on to that As has already been pointed out in the comments, you are trying to superimpose the time of the Great Patriotic War (the mobilization of the entire country) on local conflicts in modern Russia.

                    Then we're simply moving on to demagoguery. You call a war of attrition with the highest casualties since the Great Patriotic War local? Really? Right now, the entire world is involved in your so-called "local conflict" in Ukraine. All the powers that be are discussing and interfering in this conflict. What could be more local? And the country doesn't know where to get the money (budget deficit and tax hikes) or where to find the necessary number of new contract soldiers. You're grossly understating what's happening.
                    1. 0
                      4 February 2026 12: 15
                      You've moved on to the next step in confirming your vision of reality. Well, I'm not interested in arguing for the sake of arguing. I've said everything I wanted to say.
                      1. +1
                        4 February 2026 12: 16
                        Quote: Skobaristan
                        I said everything I wanted.

                        Actually, you didn't say anything.
                      2. +1
                        4 February 2026 12: 20
                        By the way, with your last reply, you confirmed what I was saying. You ignore reality. Anything that doesn't fit into your vision is simply discarded and ignored. So, for you, it seems like "I said nothing," even though I did say it in sufficient detail. But my comment was already unnecessary. Although, for me, it's more like closing the door on the topic entirely.
      2. +6
        2 February 2026 10: 41
        Frunze and Mikoyan weren't just generals; they were members of the country's top leadership. Can you name me even one serviceman in the SVO zone who is among the sons of the top twenty current leaders? That's right, there simply aren't any.
        1. 0
          2 February 2026 11: 31
          Quote from: FoBoss_VM
          Frunze and Mikoyan weren't just generals; they were members of the country's top leadership. Can you name me even one serviceman in the SVO zone who is among the sons of the top twenty current leaders? That's right, there simply aren't any.

          We don't have 100% mobilization. The people fighting are either soldiers, volunteers, or mobilized soldiers. Athletes could practically form an army.
          1. +8
            2 February 2026 11: 38
            You could even form an army out of athletes.

            No way. They'll immediately take up another citizenship and go compete for Mongolia or Pakistan.
            1. +2
              2 February 2026 12: 14
              Quote: vet
              You could even form an army out of athletes.

              No way. They'll immediately take up another citizenship and go compete for Mongolia or Pakistan.

              Who will let them out if they receive summonses?
            2. BAI
              +7
              2 February 2026 18: 41
              No, they won't. They'll immediately take on another citizenship and

              Isinbayeva refused the rank of major, although she was not threatened with mobilization.
              1. +5
                2 February 2026 20: 02
                Quote: BAI
                No, they won't. They'll immediately take on another citizenship and

                Isinbayeva refused the rank of major, although she was not threatened with mobilization.

                She just got out of there just in time. Patriots are like that. Better to be a former Olympic champion somewhere in Spain than a major banned from traveling abroad.
      3. BAI
        +5
        2 February 2026 18: 38
        The son of the Airborne Forces commander, G.I. Shpak, died in 1995 in Chechnya.
        1. 0
          4 February 2026 10: 39
          Like the deputy battalion commander - the son of Lieutenant General K.B. Pulikovsky.
    2. +1
      2 February 2026 13: 03
      *It's impossible to even imagine now that the children of such high-ranking officials would fight at the front... Yeah, right. Different times, different people*

      The son of the Kremlin spokesman spoke about his service in PMC "Wagner"
      https://topwar.ru/215494-syn-press-sekretarja-kremlja-rasskazal-o-svoej-sluzhbe-v-chvk-vagner.html
      Prigozhin's comment on this situation:
      "How can the elites have to screw up in front of their own people? Even when your son actually goes to war, the people don't want to believe it, because it's easier for the people to perceive the elites as scoundrels and scum than to give them the opportunity to do something kind and good," Prigozhin commented on this story.
  2. 0
    2 February 2026 07: 02
    The usual anesthetic dose is often insufficient in patients suffering from alcoholism or drug addiction. I would suggest that M. Frunze may have been using cocaine. Based on the autopsy findings, it is clear that he did not have an exacerbation of his duodenal ulcer; he did have frequent bleeding associated with gastric erosions. The presence of multiple scars in the duodenum, antrum, and even around the gallbladder is consistent with previous episodes of gastrointestinal mucosal ischemia, resulting in necrosis and scarring. This may also be related to cocaine addiction, as well as heart failure and arrhythmia that occur with chronic cocaine intoxication. Increasing the narcotic dose contributes to cardiovascular decompensation and cardiac arrest. Cocaine addicts have a high risk of death from injuries and infectious complications.
    1. 0
      2 February 2026 08: 32
      Quote: Andre-2128
      As well as heart failure and arrhythmia arising against the background of chronic cocaine intoxication.

      Oh, how... Unexpected. Intravenously or something?
    2. -2
      3 February 2026 11: 26
      It seems that you are also a cocaine addict...
  3. +4
    2 February 2026 07: 06
    In this case, epidural anesthesia would be safer. It began to be used in the USSR in 1933.
    1. +5
      2 February 2026 11: 38
      Quote: Andre-2128
      In this case, epidural anesthesia would be safer. It began to be used in the USSR in 1933.

      Epidurals are used during childbirth and lower body surgeries. Again, what medications were available then and what are available now? In the 70s, mask anesthesia was still used. In general, both doctors and patients say that anesthesia has plenty of side effects even now. People die at the dentist's.
      1. +2
        4 February 2026 06: 51
        Until the 50s, it was used for gastrectomy surgery. I read an old book about gastrectomy from the 50s, published by the Chita Publishing House—I don't remember the author, but it was based on clinical observations. According to it, general anesthesia wasn't used in Transbaikalia until the 50s; epidural anesthesia was used. Perhaps the equipment for general anesthesia wasn't available, or the technique hadn't been mastered—I don't know.
      2. +2
        4 February 2026 07: 11
        Judging by the number of specialists assembled for the operation, Frunze's surgery posed a very high risk. This indirectly indicates the presence of underlying medical conditions.
  4. +5
    2 February 2026 07: 22
    Valery, thank you, as always interesting. hi
  5. +5
    2 February 2026 07: 43
    The author mentioned the writer Boris Pilnyak, with his "Tale of the Unquenched Moon." The author, as he put it, didn't need any hype; he wrote a story about Frunze's death based on rumors that were already circulating at the time.
    And this was the writer's mistake. He was a rising star of Soviet literature, published abroad, and for this reason he wasn't immediately repressed. But no one forgot anything.
    In 1938, Pilnyak was shot on the standard charges of being a Japanese spy and Trotskyist.
    1. +2
      2 February 2026 09: 14
      Yeah, the archaeologist died 20 years after opening the tomb—the "pharaoh's curse"—and the writer was arrested 13 years after writing the "wrong story"—Stalin's revenge. It's funny, isn't it? In fact, such a mild reaction to Pilnyak's story can only be explained by the fact that no one in the upper echelons considered it dangerous. And it was written by a young author, already popular, precisely to "get hype," as the article says. He wanted to gain even more fame from the "hot" party. It was very careless of him; he was lucky the story was considered merely stupid, not sabotage.
      1. +5
        2 February 2026 11: 42
        Quote: vet
        Yeah, the archaeologist died 20 years after opening the tomb—the "pharaoh's curse"—and the writer was arrested 13 years after writing the "wrong story"—Stalin's revenge. It's funny, isn't it? In fact, such a mild reaction to Pilnyak's story can only be explained by the fact that no one in the upper echelons considered it dangerous. And it was written by a young author, already popular, precisely to "get hype," as the article says. He wanted to gain even more fame from the "hot" party. It was very careless of him; he was lucky the story was considered merely stupid, not sabotage.

        Then tell us why a famous writer could be shot.
        1. -1
          2 February 2026 11: 51
          Because someone filed a denunciation against him that had nothing to do with a long-forgotten story. Just like a schoolteacher can now be jailed based on a baseless denunciation from a young man or woman.
          1. VLR
            +2
            2 February 2026 13: 32
            Pilnyak's story wasn't forgotten, but rather remained unnoticed and unknown. All copies of the magazine in which it was published were confiscated and destroyed. No one wanted to distribute it in samizdat during those harsh times, especially since it wasn't a masterpiece. During perestroika, the story was practically rescued from oblivion, a place it had slipped back into in our time—now known only by title. Few read it, and no one was thrilled.
  6. -5
    2 February 2026 08: 09
    The entire adult Frunze family died virtually at the same time. Coincidence? Of course it is.
    1. +7
      2 February 2026 09: 42
      My wife died a year later, my mother six years later. "At the same time," of course. What's six years, much less a year, in the grand scheme of things?
    2. -3
      2 February 2026 16: 26
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      The entire adult Frunze family died virtually at the same time. Coincidence? Of course it is.

      The suicide of Yesenin, Mayakovsky, the death of Maxim Gorky, the death of Kirov... People in the prime of life and intellect
      1. -2
        3 February 2026 09: 40
        The suicides of Yesenin and Mayakovsky, the death of Maxim Gorky, the death of Kirov

        And also the death at a young age of Pushkin, Lermontov, Griboyedov, Belinsky, Dobrolyubov, Pisarev, Hauff, Shelley, V. Tsoi, V. Kharlamov, J. Friske, Grace Kelly, Kurt Cobain, Zhenya Belousov, etc., etc.
        1. -1
          3 February 2026 09: 55
          Quote: vet
          And also the death at a young age of Pushkin, Lermontov, Griboyedov,

          What are you comparing this to? The destruction of Gorky and Yesenin by Stalin's regime with the death of Griboyedov?
          1. -3
            3 February 2026 09: 58
            Yesenin was in a state of profound depression and wrote his final farewell poem in blood. What elimination? Enough of living in an alternate reality.
            By the way, in the alternative reality, the "tsarist regime" also eliminated the characters you listed - Pushkin was provoked into a duel, Lermontov was sent to die from a highlander's bullet in the Caucasus, and when that didn't work out, they put Martynov, whom he considered a friend, in the line of fire, and Griboyedov was sent to his death, since the demands on Persia were very harsh and practically unacceptable for them, especially in terms of the return of Christians.
            1. -2
              3 February 2026 10: 01
              Quote: vet
              Yesenin was in a state of profound depression and wrote his final farewell poem in blood. What elimination? Enough of living in an alternate reality.

              Question: Who drove Yesenin and Mayakovsky to suicide? Just don't bring women and alcohol into the mix. They got rid of people who were no longer useful. That's how it was and will be. Epstein is a prime example of our time. Or Yevgeny Prigozhin. Did they also commit suicide?
              1. -1
                3 February 2026 10: 04
                Yeah, they did it. Mayakovsky was forced to "get tangled up in women."
                Don't blame anyone for my death, and please don't gossip. The deceased really didn't like that.

                And they forced moonshine into Yesenin’s mouth until he began to see the “black man.”
                My friend, my friend,
                I am very, very sick.
                I don’t know where this pain came from.
                Is it the wind whistling?
                Over an empty and uninhabited field
                Just like a grove in September,
                Alcohol showers the brain.
                ...
                Black man
                He sits down on my bed,
                Black man
                It keeps me awake all night.
        2. -3
          3 February 2026 19: 32
          Fyodor Razzakov describes it all in his unique book, "From the Deep Security Guard to the Deep KGB." Read it. It will clarify much of our history...
    3. BAI
      +1
      2 February 2026 18: 43
      Coincidence? Of course it is.

      There are a lot of such coincidences with car accidents these days.
  7. -7
    2 February 2026 09: 03
    Thus, there is simply no basis for speculation about the causes of Frunze's death.

    Nevertheless, his accidental death from a medical error was so convenient and logical for that growing political system and nascent personality cult. What can one say: it happened very "at the right time." Because Frunze's figure was completely out of place in the events that shook the entire country in the subsequent 1930s.
    He was the only one who could stand up to Stalin. He had an unblemished reputation and enormous authority in the army. This intelligent man would have become a magnet for all those dissatisfied with Stalin's brutal methods.
    But, unfortunately, he died at such an inopportune time for the country, which lost a possible alternative.
    1. +7
      2 February 2026 09: 16
      Quote: Stas157
      He was the only one who could stand up to Stalin.

      Frunze had no intention of opposing Stalin, and in general he was very far from the internal party squabbles,
      By the way, the Trotskyists were dissatisfied with Stalin's crude methods.
      1. -4
        2 February 2026 09: 34
        Quote: bober1982
        Frunze had no intention of opposing Stalin.

        I didn't plan to. But their methods were different. Are you sure Frunze (if the operation had been successful) would have survived 37? I'm not at all sure of that.

        Frunze allowed pluralism of opinions in the party and spared prisoners (as in Crimea in 1920, despite a reprimand from Lenin), which contradicted Stalin's repressive methods.

        His independence and authority among the military could have become a barrier to purges and the strengthening of the personality cult.
        As a result, under his influence, the 1930s could have passed without mass repressions in the army and with a more gentle industrialization.
        1. +6
          2 February 2026 09: 37
          Quote: Stas157
          Would I have survived '37? I'm not at all sure about that.

          I'm not sure either.
          1. -4
            2 February 2026 09: 44
            Would I have survived '37? I'm not at all sure about that.
            I'm not sure either.

            There is such a proverb"
            When it seems like you need to cross yourself"
        2. BAI
          +2
          2 February 2026 18: 45
          Would I have survived '37? I'm not at all sure about that.

          I am inclined to think:
          1. I would have survived.
          2. There wouldn't have been such purges in the army.
    2. +3
      2 February 2026 09: 27
      What is your opinion based on that Frunze could have become a center of attraction for Stalin's opponents?
      1. +1
        2 February 2026 09: 51
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        become a center of attraction opponents of Stalin

        Don't twist my words. You invented the "opponents" thing and attributed it to me. I wasn't writing about ideological opponents, but about those who disagreed with the methods used to achieve the desired result. Frunze was never Stalin's opponent. He was a comrade.
    3. +4
      2 February 2026 10: 32
      accidental death due to medical error

      It's hardly a mistake here. A mistake is when a person makes the wrong decision despite having data that would have allowed them to make the right one. But there was no such data here. Endoscopy, which could have shown that there was no ulcer, didn't yet exist. It's impossible to predict an individual's reaction to anesthesia (just as it's impossible to predict, for example, an allergy to a medication). There were no technical errors during the operation. It was an unfortunate coincidence.
    4. +2
      3 February 2026 08: 56
      Quote: Stas157
      He was the only one who could stand up to Stalin.

      As of 1925, Stalin didn't wield any special power within the state. The Party hadn't yet become a state or a power. That's why the note was written, "They didn't let me in..."—to the professors, he was still a nobody, just an ordinary bureaucrat.

      Quote: Stas157
      He had an unblemished reputation and enormous authority in the army.
      There was authority in many - Frunze was an equal among equals, and Trotsky's authority was many times greater at that time.

      Quote: Stas157
      But, unfortunately, he died at such an inopportune time for the country, which lost a possible alternative.

      He was not an alternative to politicians by design.
      1. -3
        3 February 2026 10: 14
        Quote: your1970
        He was not an alternative to politicians. knowingly

        But he would have.
        1. +3
          3 February 2026 10: 25
          Quote: Stas157
          Quote: your1970
          He was not an alternative to politicians. knowingly

          But he would have.

          No, there were no preconditions for this. He wasn't hungry for power like Zhukov or Tukhachevsky—and without a lust for power, no one strives for the top in politics.
  8. 0
    2 February 2026 09: 16
    On the preserved electrocardiogram, the line draws a typical “cat’s back”

    Look at what this looks like on an ECG:

    The academics really screwed up – in our time, senior students were required to diagnose a heart attack based on an ECG like that. Or did they? And the fact that the "Doctors' Plot" was immediately closed after Stalin's death suggests that some of the "leaders" were seriously guilty of something – someone was very afraid of the investigation's results.
    1. +2
      2 February 2026 09: 24
      What a blunder the academics made - in our time, senior students were required to diagnose a heart attack based on an ECG like this.

      Nowadays, many young doctors, even cardiologists, don't know how to read an ECG. Even in vascular centers, they often don't look at the "Western fashion" of ECGs, but instead run enzymes called troponins: positive results indicate a heart attack; negative results rule out a heart attack. And we've been "burned" several times, whether the reagents were stale or something else, but the results were negative, and we sent the patients back. A few hours later, we'd have them back again—this time on a stretcher and with oxygen.
      1. +3
        3 February 2026 09: 18
        Quote: vet
        , either the reagents were stale, or something else

        My military ID says Rh factor group 3 is negative (1988), but my passport (1990) says Rh factor 4 is positive.
        So think about it - in what year did the rams get the test done, and in what year did normal doctors get it done.
        I need to go and donate blood sometime. lol
    2. +2
      2 February 2026 13: 25
      On the question of Tymoshchuk.
      Without going into the museum, I'll say that the first electrocardiograph was a roaring cabinet, and it was the first electronic device at the patient's bedside. And at the output, just like now, was a paper strip with scribbles, from which a specially trained person (Comrade Timoshchuk), a young doctor, would make a diagnosis that differed from that of the distinguished academicians. So, in this case, Timoshchuk was right. And the pathologist confirmed her correctness.
    3. BAI
      +1
      2 February 2026 18: 50
      Look at what this looks like on an ECG:

      Cardiologists in Moscow and St. Petersburg make different diagnoses based on the same ECG. They're different schools, so to speak. Incidentally, I've personally experienced this: a cardiac condition that went undetected for years in Moscow was instantly diagnosed by a professor at Abrikosov Hospital in St. Petersburg.
      1. 0
        3 February 2026 08: 46
        You're mistaken about your ECG interpretation. Electrocardiography is a precise science; intervals and shifts are assessed using this exact scale—there are other options (experienced functionalists already have this one "in their heads"). There's only one interpretation method, and the results are inconsistent, no matter where they're done. If there's a discrepancy in two hospitals, it means the interpretation was done incorrectly. As for schools, they existed in the USSR. Now, medical science in Russia has been destroyed; whether in Moscow, St. Petersburg, or Kazan, they're regurgitating Western data—European and American.
    4. -1
      2 February 2026 23: 45
      Quote: vet
      What a blunder the academics made - in our time, senior students were obliged to diagnose a heart attack based on an ECG like this.

      You underestimate the number of outstanding individuals in any field of human endeavor. Their share is small. After the murderous doctors' case, the MGB was forced to ask those under investigation to recommend a competent forensic pathologist for Stalin's autopsy, as the professionalism of those who remained at liberty was not trusted.
  9. +1
    2 February 2026 09: 22
    our hero, provided great assistance to the Turkish army in defeating the Greek troops and release .
    The Turks were occupiers in Asia Minor for hundreds of years
    ,
    A: The Russo-Turkish wars cover a period of 351 year (1568-1918). During this period, Russia and Türkiye were in a state ofand war for 69 years. On average, one Russo-Turkish war was separated from another total 25 years
    These are the "allies"

    ,
    and M. Frunze became deputy chairman of the Revolutionary Military Council and People's Commissar for Military and Naval Affairs
    he replaced Trotsky- German agent since 1918.
    In April of the same year, he headed the General Staff and the Military Academy of the Red Army.

    The man had no idea about military education at all.

    Just like Voroshilov, after whom the General Staff Academy is named...

    Stalin killed Kirov in the corridor.

    (And equally "reasonable")
    No one really knows who killed Kirov to this day: everyone involved in the investigation was killed, and then those who killed the first ones, and so on.

    Kirov, yes, a nickname in honor of the Persian king Cyrus.

    We must remember that Frunze and his comrades fought for to tear Russian Odessa and Petropavlovsk away from Russia , destroy everything Russian there and turn them into nationalist abscesses
    1. +3
      2 February 2026 09: 45
      Olgovich, I'd like to argue with you. But I'll put it off until another time. God willing, we'll meet again.
    2. 0
      2 February 2026 10: 10
      These are the "allies"

      And now they're allies of Iran and North Korea, which were written about quite negatively before the SVO. So what? In politics, there are no permanent friends or permanent enemies.
      Who killed Kirov?

      But not Stalin - Kirov was his closest friend and comrade, his death was a huge shock for Stalin, simply a shock.
      The man had no idea about military education at all.

      Just like Napoleon's Marshals Masséna, Augereau, Marmont, Murat, Lannes, Soult, Bessières, Ney, and Mortier. They proved themselves on the battlefield far better than many educated aristocrats. Education means little without passion and talent. And so the Tsarist generals and officers lost on their own—to the Japanese, the Germans, the Austrians, the Reds. And they won when a passionate and talented Red commander without an education emerged to lead them.
      1. -1
        2 February 2026 10: 33
        Quote: vet
        In politics there are no permanent friends and permanent enemies.
        400 years of hostility - doesn't mean anything?
        Quote: vet
        Just not Stalin - Kirov was his closest friend and comrade, his death was a huge shock for Stalin, just a shock

        Ennukidze was a closer and longer-standing friend, is his death also a shock?
        Stalin to Bukharin's father:
        How did you make such a genius?
        Quote: vet
        Massena, Augereau, Marmont, Murat, Lannes, Soult, Bessières, Ney

        The 19th century is far from the 20th
        Quote: vet
        played when appeared above them a passionate and talented red commander without education

        with a Mauser to his head
        1. -1
          2 February 2026 10: 41
          400 years of hostility - doesn't mean anything?

          Nothing. Big politics doesn't tolerate sentimentality. Russia has been at constant war with Persia since 1651; Iran is now an ally.
          they won when a passionate and talented red commander without education appeared above them
          with a Mauser to his head

          Even with a knife to his throat. Or a friendly relationship, like Frunze and Novitsky. What's the difference? The main thing is the result. A Red commander plus a former Tsarist officer as chief of staff equals success.
          A white commander plus a white chief of staff equals defeat.
          1. +1
            2 February 2026 10: 59
            Quote: vet
            A Red commander plus a former Tsarist officer as chief of staff equals success.

            With Poland too?
            Or maybe there are still variables in this equation.
            1. -1
              2 February 2026 23: 51
              Quote: Senior Sailor
              With Poland too?

              Before that, there was a civil war and an intervention by 14 powers. In 1939, Poland was defeated. You can consider the Red Army's liberation campaign in 1940 the final blitzkrieg of the war that began in 1919.
              1. +2
                3 February 2026 11: 43
                Quote: gsev
                Before this there was a civil war and an intervention by 14 powers

                And across Poland the front line wandered back and forth...
                Quote: gsev
                You can count

                I think my opponent is talking nonsense. That's all.
                1. 0
                  3 February 2026 12: 09
                  Quote: Senior Sailor
                  I think my opponent is talking nonsense. That's all.

                  During the communist era, the Soviet army successfully confronted Western forces. Compared to the many wars against Napoleon, the Swedes, and the Poles, the Soviet-Polish War was not such a failure. Compare the loss of Sakhalin to the Tsar and its return to the USSR. The wars with Finland, Poland, and Afghanistan were indeed unsuccessful, but the Soviet army was usually more combat-ready than its opponents compared to the Tsar's.
                  1. +1
                    3 February 2026 12: 28
                    Quote: gsev
                    During the communist era

                    I don't remember communism coming to us...
                    Quote: gsev
                    Compare the loss of Sakhalin to the Tsar and its return to the USSR.

                    Why compare things that are obviously incomparable?
                    Roughly speaking, if the Americans had destroyed the Japanese fleet and the most combat-ready units of the ground forces in 1904, Kuropatkin would have driven Kuroki all the way to Tokyo.
                    Quote: gsev
                    but the Soviet army

                    If you haven't noticed, we're not talking about the SA, but about the Red Army during the Civil War, in which, according to Veta always It won because it was led not by incompetent General Staff officers, but by talented self-taught people.
                    I asked in response
                    Quote: Senior Sailor
                    Or maybe there are still variables in this equation.

                    He didn't answer. But you butted in...
                    So answer me. Perhaps the balance of power, material support, and motivation do matter? Or would it have been enough to put Frunze and Budyonny at the head of the armies invading East Prussia in 1914, and everything would have gone swimmingly?
                    1. 0
                      3 February 2026 15: 24
                      Quote: Senior Sailor
                      In my opinion, Veta has always won because it is led not by incompetent General Staff officers, but by talented self-taught people.

                      Do you know those who consistently defeated the Reds? The Poles also fled from Kyiv and Minsk. And all the White generals either died, surrendered, or fled—some to neighboring countries, some to the other side of the world, to Paraguay and Argentina. Among the most prominent victors over Kolchak, Wrangel, Denikin, Dutov, Semyonov, and Ungern, more came from the lower ranks than from the General Staff Academy.
                      1. +1
                        3 February 2026 19: 23
                        Quote: gsev
                        Do you know those who constantly beat the Reds?

                        I know that the "Reds" won, in part, because they invited professionals.
                        And all the white generals either died, surrendered, or fled.

                        As I understand it, you decided to ignore the question regarding the numbers and equipment of the warring parties?
                        Well, okay.
                      2. -1
                        4 February 2026 14: 22
                        Quote: Senior Sailor
                        Have you decided to ignore the number and equipment of the warring parties?

                        Why? It was necessary to be able to mobilize people into the army and requisition grain and horses for it. Economists and historians have calculated that Lenin and Trotsky expended three times less effort to achieve this than Denikin and Kolchak. By imposing taxes on peasants, Denikin demanded half of what the peasants gave to the landowner. Therefore, the White armies were small in number, and the harsh policy of supplying the armies with local resources led to guerrilla warfare, as in Siberia and Ukraine.
        2. BAI
          +2
          2 February 2026 18: 59
          400 years of hostility - doesn't mean anything?

          For 250 years, Rus' was under Mongol-Tatar rule. However, Tatars live peacefully within Russia and are considered its citizens, while Mongolia remained a staunch ally of the USSR.
          1. 0
            3 February 2026 09: 23
            Quote: BAI
            However, the Tatars live peacefully on the territory of Russia and are its citizens,

            Having no relation to those Tatars.

            Quote: BAI
            Mongolia was a loyal ally of the USSR.
            and where would they go - if ALL controlled the USSR?
          2. 0
            3 February 2026 10: 24
            Quote: BAI
            For 250 years Rus' was under the Mongol-Tatar yoke.

            The Mongol-Tatar yoke in Rus' lasted approximately 240 years (from 1237-1242 to 1480), not exactly 250. The yoke began with the invasion of Batu Khan in 1237-1242 and ended with the Stand on the Ugra in 1480 under Ivan III.
      2. +2
        2 February 2026 10: 48
        Quote: vet
        Just like Napoleon's marshals Massena, Augereau, Marmont, Murat, Lannes, Soult, Bessières, Ney, Mortier.

        No, not so.
        All these gentlemen, well, except for Marmont, whose lieutenant's rank was purchased by his father, began their service as simple soldiers from the very bottom before becoming generals and marshals. It wasn't as if they were suddenly given the rank of general and entrusted with an army or appointed to head an academy.
        Quote: vet
        they lost to themselves - to the Japanese, the Germans, to the Austrians, in red.

        And when will the Austrians win? I don't recall them beating us one-on-one, without the Germans.
      3. -4
        2 February 2026 13: 27
        Quote: vet
        These are the "allies"

        And now they're allies of Iran and North Korea, which were written about quite negatively before the SVO. So what? In politics, there are no permanent friends or permanent enemies.
        Who killed Kirov?

        But not Stalin - Kirov was his closest friend and comrade, his death was a huge shock for Stalin, simply a shock.

        Don't make me laugh. How many of his friends and comrades did he send to the knife?
        1. VLR
          +3
          2 February 2026 13: 39
          How many of his friends and comrades did he send to the knife?
          .
          There is no need to portray Stalin as such a bloody maniac - it is no longer fashionable, it is not 1991 now.
          1. -4
            2 February 2026 16: 31
            Quote: VlR
            There is no need to portray Stalin as such a bloody maniac - it is no longer fashionable, it is not 1991 now.

            And who signed the execution lists back then? Molotov, Voroshilov, and Stalin were almost all in favor. Or were they repressed by someone else?
            1. VLR
              +3
              2 February 2026 16: 40
              You might be surprised, but dozens of names were crossed out in Stalin's own handwriting on each list. These documents have been preserved in the archives. Furthermore, until the late 30s, Stalin lacked supreme power: all decisions were made by vote of the Politburo, and Stalin often found himself in the minority. Therefore, it would be inappropriate to call the repressions of those years "Stalinist." The most fanatical and "bloodthirsty" member of the Politburo was... Who do you think? The now half-forgotten Kaganovich. And on the ground, Khrushchev was the most ruthless.
              1. -3
                2 February 2026 16: 42
                Quote: VlR
                but on each list, dozens of names were crossed out by Stalin's hand

                With the wording "Wait for now," like Yenukidze?
                Or a six-month deferment
              2. +1
                3 February 2026 10: 34
                Quote: VlR
                You'll be surprised, but dozens of names were crossed out in Stalin's handwriting on each list. These documents have been preserved in the archives.

                Regarding the archives. Signatures on the lists. Molotov signed the largest number of lists – 372, Stalin – 357 (almost all of them with a "yes" resolution), Voroshilov – 185, Kaganovich – 188-189 (tens of thousands were convicted under them). Kaganovich actively participated in the repressions, signing execution lists for over 19-36 people, but he wasn't the "leader" in terms of quantity – Molotov was ahead of him.
                Stalin did indeed cross out some names, but this does not negate his role in the process.
                1. -1
                  6 February 2026 13: 12
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Signatures on the lists. Molotov signed the largest number of lists – 372, Stalin – 357 (almost all with a "for" resolution), Voroshilov – 185, Kaganovich – 188-189 (tens of thousands were convicted under them).

                  These lists only contain full names and reasons why the person is being proposed for execution - not a word.

                  How can you write "FOR" without having any understanding of people? It's beyond comprehension....
  10. -1
    2 February 2026 09: 31
    This version was based mainly on the unsubstantiated claims of Stalin's secretary, Boris Bazhanov, who had fled abroad.

    Bazhanov made this statement because Stalin appointed Grigory Kanner, who had been responsible for "shady dealings" in Stalin's secretariat, to be responsible for Frunze's treatment. Bazhanov himself spoke very highly of Frunze.
  11. +3
    2 February 2026 09: 39
    Valery, thank you for your good and quality work.
    For old times' sake, let me add something.
    Surgeries are always serious, but surgery for a stomach ulcer or duodenal ulcer in 1970-1972 was like roulette.
  12. +1
    2 February 2026 10: 00
    "I'm Ochenkov." It's slippery here. Medicine is one big village.
    Among the old doctors, there was an opinion that Ochenkov was a blockhead.
    I knew Agapkin, I studied before the Great Patriotic War, his teachers translated many examples.
    I was interested in L. Timoshchuk, but opinions differ. Tomnmkov (professor) considered her shameless.
    1. 0
      2 February 2026 10: 17
      L. Timoshchuk, but the opinion differs. Tomnmkov (professor) considered her shameless.

      Corporate solidarity? "Airing your dirty laundry in public"?
      1. 0
        2 February 2026 10: 57
        It's entirely possible. Although there may be nuances: suspiciousness, personal scores. Life, it seems, is complicated.
    2. -1
      2 February 2026 10: 50
      Quote: vladcub
      I am Ochenkov

      I'm sorry, what? what
      1. +1
        2 February 2026 10: 58
        Sorry. It was a typo. 🥵
        1. -1
          2 February 2026 11: 00
          Quote: vladcub
          It was a typo.

          lol
  13. +1
    2 February 2026 10: 09
    Respect to the author for an excellent series of articles good
  14. +4
    2 February 2026 10: 55
    Less than a year later, on January 17, 1925, Frunze himself took the post of Chairman of the Revolutionary Military Council and People's Commissar for Military and Naval Affairs - and became the youngest (39 years old) head of a military department in the modern and contemporary history of our country.

    Actually, a most interesting point. The struggle against Trotsky and his supporters in the party and army.
    But not to the author...
    1. -3
      2 February 2026 11: 12
      Personally, it might be interesting to you. But I suspect most readers won't find this viper-in-a-jar squabble particularly interesting. I'm not interested at all—a couple of sentences explaining what happened and how it ended are quite sufficient.
      1. +2
        2 February 2026 12: 48
        Quote: vet
        snakes fighting in a jar

        Are you talking about the leadership of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks)?
        No, you are definitely anti-Soviet! wink
        Quote: vet
        I'm not interested at all

        You didn't have to tell us you weren't interested in the real story. We kind of know.
        1. -1
          2 February 2026 15: 35
          Be rude for no reason and miss another chance to be a normal conversationalist.
  15. -3
    2 February 2026 12: 13
    This version was based primarily on the unsubstantiated claims of Stalin's secretary, Boris Bazhanov, who had fled abroad. But traitors to Russia abroad have never been (and still are) given free food: a bowl of soup must be earned through lies and slander. This is precisely what the Kurbskys, Bazhanovs, Solzhenitsyns, and Rezuns of all sorts did.
    Horses mixed in a bunch of people laughing
    It is completely unclear on what basis the author listed Bazhanov as a traitor, and even included him in the list of people of whom only Rezun was a traitor.
    Bazhanov fled the USSR guided solely by ideological considerations and subsequently never made anti-Soviet statements in the press or was a member of any anti-Soviet organizations (with the exception of his activities during the Soviet-Finnish War, known only from his words).
    His version deserves attention, because it is justified and fits into the logic of the events taking place.
    It must be said that back in May 1924 there were
    Three candidates for membership in the Politburo were added: Frunze, Sokolnikov and Dzerzhinsky.
    An old revolutionary and a prominent commander in the civil war, Frunze was very
    a capable military man. A very reserved and cautious man, he impressed me
    the impression of a player who is playing some big game, but does not show his cards.
    At Politburo meetings he spoke very little and was entirely occupied with military matters.
    Already in 1924, as chairman of the Central Committee commission for the investigation of the state of the Red
    Army, he reported to the Politburo that the Red Army in its present form is completely
    incapable of combat, it looks more like a disbanded band of robbers than an army, and that it needs to be
    disband everything. This is what was done, and in utmost secrecy. The following were left
    only personnel - officers and non-commissioned officers. And the new army was created in the fall from
    conscripted peasant youth. For almost the entirety of 1924, the USSR had no
    armies; it seems the West did not know this.
    The second profound change that Frunze made was that he achieved the abolition of the institute
    political commissars in the army; they were replaced by assistant commanders for
    political part with the functions of political propaganda and without the right to interfere in
    command decisions. In 1925, Frunze supplemented all this with transfers and appointments,
    which led to the fact that military districts, corps and divisions were headed by good and
    capable military men, selected on the basis of their military qualifications, but not on the basis of
    their communist devotion.
    I was already a closet anti-communist at that time. Looking at the lists of the highest command
    composition that Frunze conducted, I asked myself the question: “If I were in his place, someone like me
    Yes, an anti-communist, what kind of personnel would I bring to the military top?” And I had to
    answer: "precisely these." These were the personnel who were quite suitable for the State
    coup in case of war.
    ...Why did Stalin organize Frunze's murder? Was it only to replace him?
    his own man – Voroshilov? I don’t think so: in a year or two, having come to sole control
    power, Stalin could have carried out this replacement without any difficulty. I think Stalin shared my feeling
    that Frunze saw himself in the future as a Russian Bonaparte. He got rid of him immediately, and the rest
    from this group of soldiers (Tukhachevsky and others) he shot at one time.
    And accordingly, the elimination of Frunze made it possible to place Voroshilov, who was absolutely loyal to Stalin, at the head of the NKO.
    Information contained in various sources must be assessed by considering them in the context of current events, rather than mindlessly including in an article the opinions of various publishers, which at best are based on someone's memoirs.
    Thus, there is simply no basis for speculation about the causes of Frunze's death.
    Reminds me of a saying from a movie:
    "You can put my word in the bank" laughing
    1. +1
      2 February 2026 12: 24
      Well, if a person who fled his country illegally is not a traitor for you, then what can we talk about?
      1. +1
        2 February 2026 12: 47
        You have some kind of television-like, everyday understanding of the meaning of a legal term. traitor.
        According to Soviet laws (in their literal interpretation), Bazhanov cannot even be recognized traitor, and even more so a traitor.
        According to the laws, it could only be recognized spy if he handed over any documents containing state secrets to representatives of foreign states.
        1. +1
          2 February 2026 13: 41
          I always consider these people traitors, and those who fled then, and those who rushed to Georgia on bicycles
          1. 0
            2 February 2026 14: 11
            I consider these people traitors in life.

            your right.
            I can only write IMHO: after reading Bazhanov’s memoirs, I didn’t get the feeling that he was a malicious anti-Soviet.
            His book is of a philosophical nature, a kind of reflection of a thinking man in his declining years about the life of society and his own life in particular.
            I recommend reading it if you're not familiar with it yet.
            1. +2
              2 February 2026 14: 25
              I read his memoirs, but my opinion about such people does not change.
          2. -1
            2 February 2026 14: 42
            I even became curious: you probably think that the domestic and foreign policies that the leaders of our country have carried out since the time of Ivan the Terrible have always been and remain correct, and those people who did not disagree with this policy and decided to leave the country, automatically become traitors?
            1. 0
              2 February 2026 15: 05
              The most terrible punishment for a person, or at least one of the most terrible, is to deprive a person of their homeland. Homeland is not synonymous with power and politics. Most of those who left began to slander the country, the people, and the government. And don't even mention that only in our country were dissenting views treated in a special way. Perhaps I'm wrong, but for me, there are no half-enemies and half-traitors. An enemy is an enemy, and they must be destroyed, otherwise they will destroy us.
              1. -2
                2 February 2026 15: 20
                I didn't see a direct answer to my question in your post, but I seem to understand the gist: for you, all citizens who left the Russian Empire, the USSR, and the Russian Federation, regardless of the motives, are traitors and enemies, and therefore subject to destruction.
                1. -1
                  2 February 2026 15: 34
                  The Russian Empire interests me little, and as for those who left their homeland and moved there, they begin to slander and engage in subversive activities, whether direct or indirect, as enemies. People who left for economic reasons, in search of a "sweet life," are cowardly weaklings and, yes, traitors, but if they don't ruin their historical homeland, then God bless them; THEY will answer questions later. That's all... and if they're an enemy with weapons, they must be destroyed immediately.
                  1. -2
                    2 February 2026 16: 06
                    People who left for economic reasons, in search of a "sweet" life, are cowardly weaklings and even traitors,
                    But if a person left because of ideological differences, because he disagrees with the policies pursued by the ruling elite, but does not want to enter into open confrontation with those in power while in the country and go to prison, is he also a traitor?
                    1. 0
                      2 February 2026 16: 59
                      The best position is that the country is cowardly, I'll just leave and start barking from abroad. Although before this, everyone got what they deserved from the country and the government, and there are plenty of examples like that.
                      1. -1
                        2 February 2026 17: 26
                        I agree, but I would like to express the opinion that it is not entirely correct to call people who disagree with the policies of the ruling elite and believe that they are leading the country to ruin, who see no prospects for themselves and fear for their future, and for this reason leave the country, traitors.

                        Every person has the right to choose - this is called freedom.
                        And your world is somehow black and white, like the Bolsheviks - whoever is not with us is against us
                      2. 0
                        2 February 2026 21: 03
                        If we had been to war, we would have thought more clearly and without any liberal nastiness.
                      3. -2
                        2 February 2026 23: 05
                        I didn't have the chance, but I served my country.
                      4. 0
                        3 February 2026 06: 39
                        Well, today there is such an opportunity.
                2. 0
                  2 February 2026 15: 38
                  All traitors love to philosophize and tell you that they're actually the nicest people, practically patriots of their country, but that their country just needs a little "editing." Many foreign agents, and for some reason still not foreign agents, love to spout such nonsense.
                  1. -4
                    2 February 2026 16: 13
                    When I see the word "foreign agent" I lose the desire to engage in dialogue with the person who wrote it.
                    Count as your heart tells you - that will be the most correct. laughing
                    1. +2
                      2 February 2026 17: 00
                      What's wrong with that? If a journalist receives money from abroad and uses it to harass his country, what is he? Just a dissenter or a bastard?
                      1. -1
                        2 February 2026 18: 19
                        What's wrong with it?

                        those who disagree with the policies of the ruling elite and believe that they are leading the country to ruin,
                      2. +3
                        3 February 2026 09: 34
                        Quote: Andrey VOV
                        What's wrong with that? If a journalist receives money from abroad and uses it to harass his country, what is he? Just a dissenter or a bastard?

                        If the members of the Central Committee and the Politburo not received money from abroad and not They rinsed the country, but at the same time flushed it down the toilet - are they bastards or not?
                      3. 0
                        3 February 2026 09: 35
                        Bastards is putting it mildly.
                    2. +2
                      2 February 2026 17: 06
                      When I see the word "foreign agent" I lose my desire

                      Now this explains a lot. Someone who clearly sympathizes with Bykov, Chichvarkin, Khodorkovsky, Kasparov, Roizman, Makarevich, and the rest is like Andersen's character who gets hit in the eye by a shard of the troll's mirror—he can only see the worst in the history of our country, even if that worst is completely absurd.
                      1. -4
                        2 February 2026 18: 22
                        A person who clearly sympathizes with Bykov, Chichvarkin, Khodorkovsky, Kasparov, Roizman, Makarevich and others is like a character from Andersen
                        I don’t even want to try to grasp the meaning of your message and I don’t understand why this was addressed to me.
                        Let's end it here, I don't see the point in arguing with people who think like Channel 1 TV teaches
                      2. -1
                        2 February 2026 20: 10
                        Quote: vet
                        When I see the word "foreign agent" I lose my desire

                        Now this explains a lot. Someone who clearly sympathizes with Bykov, Chichvarkin, Khodorkovsky, Kasparov, Roizman, Makarevich, and the rest is like Andersen's character who gets hit in the eye by a shard of the troll's mirror—he can only see the worst in the history of our country, even if that worst is completely absurd.

                        So you think that yours is for the benefit of Russia?
          3. +1
            3 February 2026 09: 31
            Quote: Andrey VOV
            I always consider these people traitors, and those who fled then, and those who rushed to Georgia on bicycles

            Your opinion diverge with the opinion of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) about traitors - Slashchev fought He fought with the Red Army, fled the country, then returned and taught at the Academy. If not for the assassination, he could have lectured until at least 1934.
        2. +2
          3 February 2026 00: 02
          Quote: Marrr
          if he handed over any documents containing state secrets to representatives of foreign states.

          In his memoirs, Bazhanov recounts how he handed over a Soviet intelligence officer to the Persian authorities, passed on secret information about the policy of confiscating concession rights from foreign investors, and formed military units of traitors to fight against the Soviet state on the side of the Finns. He refused to do the same for Germany, however. However, he gave the Nazis advice that, had Hitler accepted it, could have led to the loss of Russian statehood. However, Bazhanov's opinion on Frunze's death deserves attention. In business and industry, partners often abandon mutually beneficial cooperation in order to crush someone who might become more successful in the future if they were supported at a critical stage. Why can't this happen in politics?
          1. -2
            3 February 2026 11: 09
            In his memoirs, Bazhanov cites information about his handing over a Soviet intelligence officer to the Persian authorities, who passed on secret information about the policy of confiscating concession rights from foreign investors.
            As far as I remember, not an intelligence officer, but an agent of influence. OK, let's say a traitor.
            But as far as I know, Bazhanov was not a malicious anti-Soviet and his memoirs do not reveal any bitterness against the Soviet government.
            He offers a rather philosophical understanding of the Soviet system and an interesting description of events from within the highest party nomenklatura.
            He gives an interesting description of the true mechanism of Soviet power and, in particular, the role of the Politburo of the Central Committee as, in fact, the main governing body of the country.
            But, of course, he made up a lot of things or remembered them incorrectly - this is a common occurrence in all memoirs.
            1. +2
              3 February 2026 11: 21
              Quote: Marrr
              But as far as I know, Bazhanov was not a malicious anti-Soviet

              Richard Sorge, while serving Soviet intelligence, remained a German patriot. He simply had different views on German patriotism from Hitler. Many Karklians and Finns served in Soviet intelligence. In this service, they considered themselves Finnish patriots. Incidentally, Bazhanov believed that many prominent Bolsheviks became disillusioned with the society they had built by 2022 and no longer acted according to Marx's vision in politics, but according to their own understanding.
              Quote: Marrr
              the role of the Politburo of the Central Committee as the de facto main governing body of the country

              During the Great Patriotic War, the Politburo never met in full force. Molotov wrote all Politburo decisions, often on his own. What is published as Politburo decisions is in fact the sole decision of Molotov and Stalin, along with the people they selected to discuss a particular issue.
              1. -2
                3 February 2026 11: 30
                Richard Sorge, while serving Soviet intelligence, remained a German patriot.
                Perhaps not quite so. He considered himself first and foremost an internationalist communist and served the Comintern, working for the victory of communism throughout the world and in Germany in particular. It was on this ideological basis that he was recruited by Soviet intelligence.
                During the Great Patriotic War, the Politburo never met in full force.
                Perhaps, but I don’t understand what this has to do with Bazhanov.
                1. +1
                  3 February 2026 12: 14
                  Quote: Marrr
                  It was on this ideological basis that he was recruited by Soviet intelligence.

                  Foreign citizens are more often recruited if their ideological foundations clash with those of the state. But it's foolish for a recruiter to convince a recruit that by serving a foreign state, they're no longer patriots of their own country.
                  1. -2
                    3 February 2026 13: 05
                    Cooperation between Soviet intelligence and a foreign citizen could be (and often was) not ideological, but on a financial basisPeople were simply selling their state's secrets for money, and there wasn't even a hint of patriotism in this case.

                    Specifically, Sorge was a member of the Comintern; for these people, patriotism for the countries where they were born and raised was not the most important motivating factor in their lives and activities.
                    They served not the Motherland, but Communism. And often, in the name of this service, they acted contrary to the interests of their countries, causing them harm.
                    1. 0
                      3 February 2026 15: 30
                      Quote: Marrr
                      Specifically, Sorge was a member of the Comintern; for these people, patriotism for the countries where they were born and raised was not the most important motivating factor in their lives and activities.

                      This isn't exactly about Sorge. He was Russian on his mother's side and believed that Germany's prosperity lay in its alliance and cooperation with Russia. Perhaps this explains the intelligence leadership's mistrust of him and the repression of his wife. Incidentally, the Japanese preserved Sorge's grave, but the whereabouts of his wife are unknown. Stalin and Beria killed her before the Japanese executed Richard Sorge.
                      1. -2
                        3 February 2026 16: 06
                        He was Russian on his mother's side and believed that Germany's well-being
                        I don't see the point in discussing speculation
      2. +2
        2 February 2026 12: 55
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        people fled his country illegally

        Hmm... more than half of the RSDLP leadership fits this definition. request
        1. +2
          2 February 2026 13: 34
          Quote: Senior Sailor
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          people fled his country illegally

          Hmm... more than half of the RSDLP leadership fits this definition. request

          And how many traitors now fit this definition?
          But generally speaking, yes, someone who has fled is not a traitor de jure. Traitor is a very vague definition. Lenin was also a traitor to the Russian Empire, as were all the Bolsheviks.
          1. +2
            2 February 2026 14: 56
            Quote: Panin (Michman)
            And how many traitors are there now...

            ...unfortunately, we never went anywhere! request
          2. 0
            3 February 2026 15: 37
            Quote: Panin (Michman)
            And how many traitors now fit this definition?

            Do I fit this definition if I worked three days in Tajikistan? Or Abramovich, who invested in Chelsea? Solovyov, who bought something like a dacha somewhere in Europe? Surely for temporary residence. Incidentally, Stalin's daughter also fled to the West, for which she had to sleep with an old Indian man until his death. But she was one of Stalin's legitimate children who died in peace. Should we condemn her for preferring the United States to the gilded cage of Khrushchev, Andropov, and Gorbachev?
            1. -2
              4 February 2026 13: 06
              Quote: gsev
              Quote: Panin (Michman)
              And how many traitors now fit this definition?

              Do I fit this definition if I worked three days in Tajikistan? Or Abramovich, who invested in Chelsea? Solovyov, who bought something like a dacha somewhere in Europe? Surely for temporary residence. Incidentally, Stalin's daughter also fled to the West, for which she had to sleep with an old Indian man until his death. But she was one of Stalin's legitimate children who died in peace. Should we condemn her for preferring the United States to the gilded cage of Khrushchev, Andropov, and Gorbachev?

              That's my point. Calling someone a traitor if they hold different views is, at the very least, incorrect. This is precisely what distinguishes a democratic society from a totalitarian one.
  16. -2
    2 February 2026 13: 10
    The magazine containing Pilnyak's story was withdrawn from sale, but no one touched him.
    Then They didn’t touch him, but in 1937 Stalin remembered this article and did not spare him, although by that time Pilnyak was widely known as a writer not only in the USSR, but also abroad.
    But fame didn't save him from execution - he shouldn't have written about Frunze like that. In 1925, Pilnyak didn't yet understand that the situation in the country was changing and that he needed to be more careful with freedom of speech.
    1. VLR
      +1
      2 February 2026 13: 20
      Well, Stalin apparently had nothing better to do then than take revenge on some Pilnyak. He endured it with all his might for 12 years, but in 1937, his patience snapped.
      I suspect Stalin knew nothing about Pilnyak's arrest, as he did with many other such men of seemingly insignificant national importance. He was busy with strategic matters, focusing on high-level politics, industrialization, and preparations for the imminent war that was already "on the threshold."
      1. 0
        2 February 2026 14: 01
        Well, Stalin apparently had nothing better to do then than take revenge on some Pilnyak. He endured it with all his might for 12 years, but in 1937, his patience snapped.
        Do you want to claim that Pilnyak was arrested and executed because he really was a Japanese spy? feel
        I suspect that Stalin knew nothing about the arrest of Pilnyak, like many other such people who were, in general, insignificant for the country.
        A purely speculative judgment.
        I wouldn't call Pilnyak an insignificant figure, as he was a world-renowned writer, published both in the USSR and abroad, and traveled abroad 15 times, including to the United States. He also wrote to Stalin on numerous occasions, meaning he was well-known to him.
        That is, Pilnyak was an important "weapon" of Soviet propaganda; arrests of writers of such stature were usually sanctioned by the Politburo.
        He was solving strategic issues, dealing with big politics, industrialization, and preparations for the imminent war, which was already “on the threshold.”
        War on the doorstep in 1937?
        With such imagination, you will surely become a famous writer on this resource. laughing
        1. +1
          2 February 2026 14: 11
          Quote: Marrr
          War on the doorstep in 1937?
          With such imagination, you will surely become a famous writer on this resource.

          You will definitely become famous on this resource...
          The Soviet Union and Germany participated in the Spanish Civil War. The Soviet Union fought on the side of China against Japan. Italy had already fought in Ethiopia. A few months later, Germany occupied Czechoslovakia and annexed Austria. On November 25, 1936, Germany and Japan signed the Anti-Comintern Pact to jointly combat the Third International. Italy joined the pact on November 6, 1937.
          1. -3
            2 February 2026 14: 14
            You will definitely become famous on this resource...
            The participation of the Soviet Union and Germany in the Spanish Civil War. The Soviet Union's participation in the war on the side of China against Japan.
            And since when did Spain become the threshold of the USSR? laughing
            In my opinion, the USSR found itself on the brink of war in 1941.
            Although the debate about this is initially meaningless, since its subject is not the literary expression “on the threshold,” which everyone has the right to interpret at their own discretion.
          2. 0
            2 February 2026 15: 41
            And then there are the battles at Khasan and Khalkhin Gol. And this is already practically a war—not on the threshold. And Spain—yes, a "test run" of war on foreign soil. It's just strange that anyone is trying to deny all this.
        2. VLR
          -1
          2 February 2026 14: 13
          And you still haven't finished reading the perestroika-era Ogonyok, apparently? Or are you rereading it for the second or third time? Too bad, a lot has been written since then.
          As for Pilnyak: if he were the only one groundlessly arrested on charges of espionage, one could construct some half-fantastic theories about the reasons. But this, unfortunately, is not an isolated incident. And did all those convicted of false espionage somehow offend Stalin? In fact, both Stalin and others treated Pilnyak's story as a silly misunderstanding. They shook their fingers at it and forgot about it. And anyway, all those rumors about Frunze being forced to undergo surgery and the surgeons "deliberately stabbed him" are complete nonsense. Which is precisely what I wrote about in the article, literally "laying everything out in its proper place." It's shameful for reasonable people to believe such nonsense.
          1. 0
            2 February 2026 14: 32
            And you still haven't finished reading the entire issue of the perestroika "Ogonyok"?
            I don’t have such a file, I have a file of the magazine “Automotive Industry”, and I’m rereading it. laughing
            As for Pilnyak: if he were the only one to be groundlessly arrested on espionage charges, one could speculate on some half-fantastic theories about the reasons. But, unfortunately, this is not an isolated incident.
            The fact that this is not an isolated case does not prove it at all incorrectness of the assumptionthat the main reason for Pilnyak's arrest was his article about Frunze's death
            In fact, both Stalin and others treated Pilnyak’s story as a stupid misunderstanding.
            Here it would be a good idea for you to write the phrase I TESTIFY AS AN EYEWITNESS laughing
            And anyway, all these rumors about Frunze being forced to have surgery and the surgeons "deliberately stabbed" him are complete nonsense. Which is actually what I wrote about.
            You have every right - where there is doubt, hypotheses always abound. Yes
            So, regarding Frunze's death, every publisher has the right to put forward his own fantasy, but it is ridiculous to claim that this fantasy exactly corresponds to historical reality.

            Only the course of historical events is known.
            1. Stalin (and other members of his bloc) tried with all their might to weaken Trotsky’s political weight.
            2. To achieve this, it was necessary to remove him from the post of head of the military department.
            3. Stalin needed to appoint a loyal person, Voroshilov, as People's Commissar of Defense.
            4. He couldn’t do it - other members of the Politburo were against it.
            5. Trotsky is removed, and his first deputy, Sklyansky, is removed along with him, then appointed to a responsible post in the United States, where he suddenly dies under strange circumstances.
            6. Frunze is appointed People's Commissar of Defense, and Voroshilov is appointed his first deputy.
            7. Then Frunze suddenly dies by accident, and as a result Voroshilov becomes People's Commissar.

            Further, one can put forward hypotheses about who benefited from Frunze’s appointment and death.
            1. +2
              2 February 2026 15: 47
              Your theoretical speculations are shattered by medical reality. I wrote above (read it) that Frunze's case wasn't premeditated murder on the operating table (what kind of murder could there be with so many qualified witnesses), and not even a medical error, but a tragic confluence of circumstances that none of the doctors could have foreseen. And certainly not Stalin.
              Moreover, as a seasoned physician, I can tell you that relying on medicine to eliminate competitors is a poor strategy. In the 90s, when hospitals had no medicine at all, I saw people recover from strokes without treatment, while those treated with medications brought by relatives died or became hopelessly disabled. The human body is unpredictable, and it's not so easy to both "treat" and "cure."
              1. -2
                2 February 2026 16: 00
                Moreover, I can tell you as an experienced doctor

                Answer me as an experienced doctor or at least as an intelligent person: if you were not personally present during Frunze’s operation, did not see how it was carried out and what medications were used, and did not even read the original of his medical history, then how can you do anything? to assert with weight or refute?

                There is only a fact: Frunze, appointed People's Commissar of Defense with the aim of removing Trotsky, suddenly dies during an operation, and a man loyal to Stalin is appointed in his place.
                Further, we can put forward versions, but it is impossible to say anything for sure.
                1. +2
                  2 February 2026 16: 06
                  There was nothing mysterious, enigmatic, supernatural, or anything like that about Frunze's death. It was an accident, impossible to foresee given the state of medical advancement at that time. The man was exhausted by his illness and demanded an operation he physically could not and would not have been able to endure. He was doomed from the moment the decision was made to operate—but no one knew this. And Stalin, who understood nothing about medicine, was even less aware of the inevitable fatal outcome. There is no reason to suspect eight highly experienced doctors of colluding with Stalin or anyone else. Had there been a technical or deliberate error during the operation, it would not have been possible to conceal it.
                  1. -3
                    2 February 2026 16: 08
                    There was nothing mysterious, enigmatic, supernatural, or anything like that about Frunze's death. It was an accident.
                    Write the phrase I TESTIFY AS A PARTICIPANT IN THIS OPERATION and that will end our dispute, because you have:
                    There is a fence in the yard, and there is a bast on it
                    Our song is good - sing it first!
                    You don't even understand the essence of my argument.
                    1. VLR
                      +2
                      2 February 2026 16: 25
                      Stalin in 1925 is not Stalin in 1941. His position as Party Secretary is not particularly high, and many believe it to be purely technical—at the time, it was something like the head of the personnel department. Stalin in 1925 is not all-powerful; he is merely "one of them." When he wants to visit Frunze, the surgeon Rozanov (and Mikoyan along with him) easily throws him out of the hospital. And Stalin has many enemies who would gladly "devour" him—if there's a reason. For example, if Rozanov, Martynov, or Grekov were to claim that Stalin tried to force them to "slaughter Frunze."
                      1. -5
                        2 February 2026 16: 33
                        Stalin in 1925 is not Stalin in 1941.
                        And not Stalin in '37.
                        It is a historical fact that Stalin took an active part in ensuring that his enemies and political opponents were physically destroyed.
                        He even got Trotsky, who was hiding in Mexico and died at the hands of a hired killer.

                        It is impossible to rule out the possibility that Stalin was involved in Frunze's death, although in my opinion the probability of this is less than 50%, but it is pointless to speculate about what exactly.
                        It’s just that when you look at the development of the situation in dynamics, a certain sequence of events becomes apparent, from which Stalin benefited the most.
                        But perhaps this is a series of coincidences

                        Be that as it may, if Frunze had not died during the operation, he would have later gone to the military case in 37-38.
                        And there would have been no Frunze Academy or the city of Frunze in the USSR.
                      2. VLR
                        +1
                        2 February 2026 16: 44
                        If Frunze had survived, he would have later been charged with the military case in 37-38.

                        So categorical? This is some kind of "alternative history course."
                      3. -2
                        2 February 2026 17: 19
                        This is not an alternative history course, but a well-founded assumption, based on the known facts that of the first 5 Soviet marshals, only Stalin's loyal friends Voroshilov and Budyonny survived the repressions of 37-38, and of all the military leaders of 37 of lower rank not a single one survived.
                        Objectively speaking, it is unlikely that Frunze, who was not one of Stalin’s close friends and was an authoritative figure in the party and military circles, would have slipped through this hurdle.
                        But you can insist on your personal optimistic forecast.
                    2. BAI
                      +3
                      2 February 2026 19: 07
                      I TESTIFY AS A PARTICIPANT IN THIS OPERATION and this concludes our dispute,

                      What a brilliant way to pose the question. Let's, on this basis, cancel all history before 1900, since there are no living witnesses.
                      1. -3
                        2 February 2026 23: 01
                        History is reconstructed not only from the memories of living witnesses of events
                      2. -2
                        3 February 2026 09: 06
                        Marr, are you the one talking about history? You're a follower of the anti-Soviet sect, one of those who don't accept arguments, but fantasize, painting pictures of a virtual reality.
                      3. -4
                        3 February 2026 11: 21
                        You are an adherent of the anti-Soviet sect.
                        You imagined it.
                        I have no grounds to make claims against the Soviet system; I grew up in the USSR and received a higher education. Moreover, during my studies, I was even paid for studying – today this seems like a fantasy.
                        But this does not prevent me from noticing many negative phenomena occurring in the USSR, of which there were plenty.
              2. +3
                3 February 2026 09: 52
                Quote: vet
                In the 90s, when hospitals had no medicine at all, I saw people recover from strokes without treatment, while those treated with medications brought by relatives died or became hopelessly disabled. The human body is unpredictable, and it's not so easy to both "treat" and "cure."

                A fellow soldier on active duty ran away from his base and spent the winter sleeping on a hill (Kushka, 1988) under a tarp. At -10 degrees on the parade ground, frostbite cases were quite common due to the high humidity.
                When I found him, The snow lay on his face and did not melt. "Died" - no options.
                And he blinked his eyes belay
                I didn't even get frostbite on my face from the snow...
                1. +1
                  3 February 2026 09: 57
                  Exactly. People are simply unpredictable in medical terms. They can recover from a stroke without any treatment and work physically after a myocardial infarction. Or they can die from a common cold or a scraped boil. Relying on medicine to eliminate political opponents is futile. Moreover, in my lifetime, recommendations have changed dramatically several times. When I was studying, they said that prescribing beta-blockers for a myocardial infarction should result in a doctor's diploma being revoked; now, they're the first-choice drugs.
          2. +1
            3 February 2026 10: 52
            Quote: VlR
            In fact, both Stalin and others treated Pilnyak’s story as a stupid misunderstanding.

            There'll be a very interesting article about why Pilnyak was actually executed. It seems he has nothing to blame for other than "The Tale of the Unquenched Moon."
            1. +1
              3 February 2026 11: 14
              It seems there is nothing to blame him for except for "The Tale of the Unquenched Moon".

              Well, no one knew her, or no one remembered her. And what was she accused of? What were others accused of? Durnovo, a philologist—for example, of organizing an "underground philological government."
              There was someone else
              "The homosexual activists, using the caste-like isolation of homosexual circles for directly counter-revolutionary purposes, politically corrupted various social strata of youth, in particular working youth, and also attempted to infiltrate the army and navy."

              Well, by the way, maybe there was some kind of "circle" of fans of this business, whose members tried to "pester" heterosexual Komsomol members and others.
              There was a conviction for making butter churn blades in the shape of a swastika.
              In general, there would be a desire.
              By the way, did you know that Pilnyak was removed from his post as chairman of the first Union of Writers in 1929 - andcontinued to publish and send on foreign business trips on personal orders "super-vindictive" Stalin? So it's all nonsense—Stalin's revenge and all that other nonsense. On October 28, 1936, at a meeting of the Presidium of the Union of Soviet Writers, Pilnyak was smeared, not by the Chekists, but by "his fellow writers," accused of Trotskyism and "failure to understand the fundamental themes of our reality," and demanded to be "confronted with a revolver." That's who "put him on trial"—without any "assignment from the Party." Bohemia is always a "tangle of vipers," where everyone hates each other, and playing dirty is the sweetest thing.
      2. +2
        3 February 2026 09: 46
        Quote: VlR
        I suspect that Stalin was talking about the arrest of Pilnyak, as well as many others like him, in general, insignificant for the country of people, and knew nothing.

        In the brochure “Meeting of the People’s Commissariat of Communications and the Prosecutor’s Office” of 1934, the following example is given( not verbatim)
        "A telegram signed by Kuibyshev arrived at the post office regarding the Chelyuskintsev case. It lacked the "State" stamp—required immediate dispatch. Judging by the telegram's contents and Kuibyshev's signature, it was obvious this was a mistake. Several employees read it, but despite its contents and signature, it lay undelivered for two days. When we investigated this, we were surprised to learn that some employees were unaware not only of Kuibyshev and his position, but also of many government leaders."
        Something like this....
    2. -1
      2 February 2026 15: 08
      Quote: Marrr
      Stalin reminded him of this article.

      However, Boris Andreevich’s creative legacy is not limited to this article.
      There was also "Mahogany" and so on... so if the reason is creativity, then it's more likely "in combination".
      1. -2
        2 February 2026 15: 15
        It is possible that in the aggregate, but in my opinion the article hinting at Frunze’s death was the predominant one in this aggregate.
        At the very least, she could not help but leave a furrow in Stalin’s strong and long-lasting memory.
        1. +3
          2 February 2026 18: 02
          Quote: Marrr
          At the very least, she could not help but leave a furrow in Stalin’s strong and long-lasting memory.

          Well, people who knew the temporary detention facility personally claimed that he never forgot anything. So yes, it's possible.
          1. -3
            2 February 2026 20: 18
            Quote: Senior Sailor
            Quote: Marrr
            At the very least, she could not help but leave a furrow in Stalin’s strong and long-lasting memory.

            Well, people who knew the temporary detention facility personally claimed that he never forgot anything. So yes, it's possible.

            When Yenukidze tried to defend Zinoviev, Stalin told him: "Remember, Abel, whoever is not with me is against me."
            1. -2
              3 February 2026 09: 04
              who is not with me is against me

              It's simply an axiom that applies both to big politics and to everyday life. And considering that it was Stalin's line that saved the country, while those of Trotsky or Zinoviev (or anyone else) destroyed it, one can only thank Stalin for his integrity.
              1. -3
                3 February 2026 17: 55
                It was Stalin's line that saved the country, while the lines of Trotsky or Zinoviev (or anyone else) destroyed it. One can only thank Stalin for his integrity.
                and also for consistency and completeness - he physically destroyed all his political opponents one after another.
                He even reached Trotsky, who was hiding in Mexico, and at the same time ordered the elimination of his son.
                Well, just in case, I destroyed it too potential opponents, including the first three Soviet marshals
                I see that many Stalinophiles have settled on VO, replacing the philosophers who left the site. laughing
                1. +1
                  4 February 2026 09: 58
                  replacing the philosophers who left the site

                  Yes, many "rotten" philosophers have left Russia now and are slinging mud from abroad. It's time for you to leave too. Or have you already left?
      2. +4
        2 February 2026 18: 33
        Quote: Senior Sailor
        However, Boris Andreevich’s creative legacy is not limited to this article.

        Quote: Senior Sailor
        then it’s more like “in totality”.

        Yes, that's right, in 1936 Pilnyak gave a report on his work at a meeting of the Presidium of the Writers' Union.
        They simply hounded him there... This type of writer must perish on our soil; the question is about physical destruction......, these were such friendly discussions addressed to Pilnyak
        B. Pilnyak himself was actually sentenced.
        1. 0
          3 February 2026 09: 02
          Exactly. Even without Stalin, there were those who wanted to send Pilnyak packing. Millions of denunciations were written not by Stalin or Beria, not even by Yezhov, but by colleagues, neighbors, even relatives.
          1. -1
            3 February 2026 11: 22
            Quote: vet
            Millions of denunciations were written not by Stalin or Beria, not even by Yezhov

            And who accepted the denunciations as grounds for... execution? That's a crime.
  17. +1
    2 February 2026 13: 39
    ,,,this is such an interesting order belay
  18. -2
    2 February 2026 14: 09
    Professor D. D. Pletnev

    - Doctor of Sciences, founder of Russian cardiology, professor, therapist, etc.

    He treated Lenin, Krupskaya, Stalin, etc.

    On June 8, 1937, an article about Pletnev was published in the newspaper Pravda "Professor-rapist, sadist": In 1934, out of sadistic motives, he bit his patient on the breast, which led to her developing a severe chronic illness, and then, without providing her with the necessary assistance, abandoned her to her fate.

    witnesses about the "victim": "virgin"the victim" of the lust of Professor P., "a rapist, a sadist!" Upon learning of this, I said that biting her was only allowed for self-defense, when other means of self-defense against it have been exhausted or are unavailable". .

    For FOUR years he was left to rot in prisons and tortured

    Pletnev to Beria:
    The entire indictment against me is a fabrication. I was coerced into "confessions" through violence and deception... Interrogations lasting 15-18 hours straight, forced sleeplessness... led to a mental breakdown where I was unaware of what I was doing... I was not involved in any terrorist organizations and am in no way guilty. Why am I dying now? I am ready to shout my innocence to the whole world. It is hard to die knowing your innocence.


    Dmitry Dmitrievich Pletnev was tortured, paralyzed on half his body, and confessed to involvement in the murder of Maxim Gorky.

    Shot in 41 near Orel.

    it's beyond reason...
    1. -1
      2 February 2026 21: 06
      Oh, the snake in the grass has crawled out again, he's beyond reason... And aren't zoos in Europe with Africans up to 60 heads beyond reason???? Yes, sadists and idiots are everywhere and under any government, unfortunately... And what did your favorite whites, bakers, and landowners do??? Don't you want to remember?
      1. 0
        3 February 2026 11: 25
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        underfed serpent

        hi
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        Yes, there are sadists and idiots everywhere and under any government.

        and only with yours they in authorities
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        And what did your favorite white people do?

        They tortured and shot Professor Pletnev, forcing him to confess to Gorky's death in peaceful 37?
        1. -1
          3 February 2026 11: 33
          Enough demagoguery, enemy.
  19. -3
    3 February 2026 07: 57
    Even worse was chloroform, one of the decay products of which is... phosgene.
    Half-knowledge is worse than ignorance... A couple percent of ethanol ALWAYS solved this problem. It was purified as needed. But for anesthesia, it was still used – with alcohol.
    1. +1
      3 February 2026 09: 00
      This is an unfair nitpick. Firstly, the fact that phosgene's effects can be neutralized with alcohol doesn't change the fact that it is produced by the breakdown of chloroform. Secondly, how can you expect the author of a historical article to also have an impeccable understanding of anesthesiology, genetics, programming, and so on? It's like being asked questions about the Battle of Grunwald at a certification committee meeting.
  20. -1
    3 February 2026 11: 52
    It's a shame he chose the wrong side.
  21. -1
    3 February 2026 15: 18
    Quote: vet
    This is an unfair nitpick. Firstly, the fact that phosgene's effects can be neutralized with alcohol doesn't change the fact that it is produced by the breakdown of chloroform. Secondly, how can you expect the author of a historical article to also have an impeccable understanding of anesthesiology, genetics, programming, and so on? It's like being asked questions about the Battle of Grunwald at a certification committee meeting.

    Chloroform, an anesthetic, doesn't contain phosgene. And it doesn't form. Alcohol doesn't "neutralize" it, but rather prevents its formation by interrupting the radical chain reaction. It "catches" the radicals.
    If you know something, you write it. If you don't know something, you don't write it. If you're not sure, look it up online. If you're writing about Frunze, write about Frunze and don't get into chemistry.
  22. +2
    4 February 2026 11: 34
    The Kachin Higher Aviation School, which produced 352 Heroes of the Soviet Union, 17 Heroes of the Russian Federation, 12 air marshals, and over 200 generals, was disbanded on November 6, 1997, by order of Yeltsin's Defense Minister I. Sergeyev.

    A lot of things were closed down and simply destroyed under Yeltsin, and now they are coming back to haunt them, but the "supreme" hasn't said a bad word about Yeltsin yet, and he even recently opened another Yeltsin Center in Moscow.