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Money from Stalin. Soviet system of monetary reward for military success

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Money from Stalin. Soviet system of monetary reward for military success

One of the lesser-known pages of the Great Patriotic War is the theme of material encouragement of Soviet soldiers. There is a persistent myth that a Russian (Soviet) soldier always fought for the idea, unlike the Western, American warriors. However, in reality, under Joseph Stalin, a very complex and effective system of monetary remuneration of the military for military successes was created. Destruction of the enemy's military equipment, import and repair of his own - everything had its price.


It is clear that this does not detract from the patriotism of the Soviet soldiers and their feat in this Great War. Patriotism and the willingness to give life for their homeland can not be bought. And, nevertheless, one should not turn a blind eye to the fact that the Soviet leadership did not forget, not only to educate "Stalin's falcons", the true patriots of the Fatherland, but along with moral encouragement, to materially support the soldiers.

This question was not disclosed in detail in the works devoted to the Great Patriotic War. In Soviet historiography, only individual reports of monetary rewards to the Soviet military could be found, both in memoirs and in works on military stories. But the whole picture was not. Partly explained by the fact that this topic might seem out of place in relation to veterans. This was partly true. This topic was not popular in the 1990 and the beginning of the 2000, when some researchers were fascinated by “revealing” the mistakes of the Soviet leadership and commanders, embedding alternative pictures of reality, on the topic “if” Stalin or Zhukov did differently than in reality.

In the Red Army, a system of material incentives for military successes has been introduced since the summer of 1941. This process began with the Air Force. Apparently, this was due to the fact that the battle in the air at the beginning of the war was especially difficult. Soviet success aviation paid a huge price. It is clear that the Soviet leadership was unlikely to thus turn the tide of the war in the air, but they did not begin to neglect the factor of material incentives. In addition, the pilots in the pre-war period were people's favorites, the pride of the Soviet Union. In addition, it is difficult to overestimate the positive psychological impact of Soviet air raids on enemy territory when the Red Army retreated. Following the pilots, land forces — infantrymen, artillerymen, and tankers — began to be encouraged with monetary awards. But if in aviation they paid in various types of activities, including the work of ground technical personnel, then in the ground forces they paid for the fact of the destruction of enemy equipment.

Aviation

The first regulatory act that addressed the issue of monetary remuneration for military successes was the order to encourage participants in the bombing of Berlin, which was signed by Stalin on August 8 of the year 1941. On the night of 7 on 8 in August, a group of long-range Baltic Fleet bombers made a raid on the German capital, 5 planes dropped bombs in the city center, the rest in the suburbs. The staff of the aircraft were thanked and each member of the crews participating in the operation was to receive 2 thousand rubles. It was also established that each member of the plane’s crew dropping bombs on Berlin received 2 thousand rubles.

Subsequently, “leveling”, when each crew member received the same amount, was canceled. According to the order of the Commissar of Defense of 23 in March 1943, the ship’s commander, navigator and on-board technician received a cash bonus in the amount of 2 thousand rubles for each successful operation against the capital of the enemy, and the rest of the crew - 1 thousand rubles. Also, other enemy capitals, Helsinki, Bucharest and Budapest, were equated to Berlin in monetary terms.

Increased attention to material incentives for those who, according to Stalin, was most needed in an important matter, the Soviet leader showed even before World War II. In the money issue, Stalin was well versed. Since the Chief Air Marshal Alexander Golovanov, he was at that time the chief pilot of Aeroflot, after the Soviet-Finnish war proposed to form a compound of 100-150 aircraft capable of performing particularly important tasks in the deep rear of the enemy under any weather conditions. Stalin liked the idea, and he decided to start creating an air regiment capable of solving such problems. Golovanov offered to lead him. At the same time, the leader made sure that the new appointment did not cause material damage to the pilot. He asked how much he gets. Golovanov replied that 4 thousand rubles per month. And the commander of the air regiment, according to Marshal Timoshenko, received 1,6 thousand rubles per month. Stalin ordered the pilot to keep the salary he received in the civil service. Golovanov noted in his memoirs that "it was customary for Stalin not only to ask people, but also to take care of them."

After long-range aviation, Stalin extended this successful experience to the entire Air Force. 19 August 1941, the Supreme Commander signed an order “On the procedure for rewarding the flight personnel of the Air Force of the Red Army and measures to combat latent desertion among individual pilots”. The document established the remuneration procedure for pilots of all types of aviation. Thus, fighter pilots for 3 downed enemy aircraft were presented for awarding the Order, for the next 3 - to the second order. Over the ten enemy aircraft shot down, fighter aviation pilots presented themselves to the highest award — the title of Hero of the Soviet Union (in the second half of the war, in order to receive the Golden Star of the hero, it was necessary to shoot down 15 enemy aircraft). The order of awarding pilots, navigators and shooters in other types of aviation was also determined. In addition to government awards, a monetary reward was provided to the pilots.

For one downed enemy plane, fighter pilots received a bonus of 1 thousand rubles, the same amount was received by any crew member of a reconnaissance aircraft or bomber who personally destroyed the enemy's car. For 5 combat missions for the destruction of enemy troops, the fighter pilot received an award in 1,5 thousand rubles. For 15 sorties - presented to the government award and received a material reward in 2 thousand rubles. For 25 combat missions, a fighter aircraft pilot - presented himself to the second government award and received 3 thousand rubles. For 40 sorties - presented to the highest government award, received an award in 5 thousand rubles. However, from the provision of the highest award - Hero Stars for 40 sorties, then had to be abandoned, too many pilots crossed this line.

A reward procedure was introduced for the destruction of enemy aircraft on the runways. For the successful conduct of four sorties in operations to destroy enemy vehicles on its airfields, the fighter pilot received a cash bonus of 1,5 thousand rubles. For success in 10 day sorties or 5 sorties at night, the pilot was presented with a government award, and he received a cash reward of 2 thousand rubles. For 20 successful sorties during the day or 10 sorties at night, the fighter pilot presented himself to the second government award and received 3 thousand rubles. For the successful conduct of 35 combat missions during the day or 20 departures at night, they were introduced as the Hero of the USSR and received an award of 5 thousand rubles.

In the short-bomber and long-range reconnaissance aviation for completing 40 missions during the day or 15 at night, each crew member presented himself to the title of Hero and received 3 thousand rubles. In the near-bomber and assault aviation the pilot, navigator and gunner-radio operator who personally shot down the enemy's aircraft received a cash award of 1 thousand rubles; 2 aircraft - government award and 1,5 thousand rubles; 5 aircraft - the second government award and 2 thousand rubles; 8 aircraft - was presented to the title of Hero of the Soviet Union and received a cash award in 5 thousand rubles. There were also quotations for successful fulfillment of reconnaissance missions: for 10 combat missions during the day and 5 at night, each crew member received 1 thousand rubles.

Pilots were awarded and for the preservation of the material part and flights without accidents and breakdowns. Pilots for every 100 flight, without incident, received an award in 5 thousand rubles. Not been forgotten and ground staff. For fast and high-quality repairs, the personnel of the aircraft repair shops received an award in 500 rubles for each restored aircraft. Technical personnel servicing the aircraft received a cash reward of 3 thousand rubles, subject to the failure-free operation of the materiel for every 100 of sorties.

The rates for downed enemy aircraft for fighters were then adjusted in the "Order of fighter actions to destroy enemy bombers." Order No. 0489 of 17 on June 1942 of the year noted that fighter pilots were attacking first of all enemy fighters, and only then its bombers. And the main task of the Soviet fighters is to destroy the enemy bombers first. Therefore, fighter pilots began to receive for each downed enemy aircraft 2 thousand rubles, for each transport aircraft - 1,5 thousand rubles, enemy fighters - 1 thousand rubles. The title of Hero of the Soviet Union was represented by those fighter pilots who shot down enemy aircraft or 10 bombers in air battles of 5. Thus, the enemy's bomber began to be assessed twice as expensive as the fighter.

On the same day, June 17, 1942, Order No. 0490 was approved. The Order established a material reward for assault aviation pilots in the amount of 1 thousand rubles for every 4 sorties with a full bomb load when completing a combat mission for bombing and assault operations tanks, motorized convoys or enemy manpower.

At the same time, control over combat missions was organized. The Order to establish the concept of combat sortie for fighters No. 0685 of 9 September 1942 was instructed to consider only a sortie for fighter aircraft to be such that Soviet bombers and attack aircraft had no casualties from attacks by enemy aircraft. Only those enemy aircraft that were confirmed by a photograph or report of a ground post were considered destroyed. Fighter pilots who evaded battle were prosecuted and transferred to fines.

In the Soviet army, control over the downed enemy aircraft was tougher than the Germans. The Germans had enough of the words of the slave and the photo control to confirm the victory (getting into the plane did not mean its destruction). The fall of the enemy aircraft, especially towards the end of the war, did not interest them. In the USSR, every year, control only tightened. From the second half of 1943, the downed began to be credited only if the fall was confirmed by ground posts, photo monitoring, undercover, and other sources.

The next adjustments were made on September 30 1943 of the year in the "Regulations on awards and awards for personnel ...", he was signed by the commander of the Red Army Air Force Marshal of Aviation Novikov. Crew members for each downed bomber, reconnaissance or transport worker received 1,5 thousand rubles, for each aircraft of other types - 1 thousand rubles. Provision was made for payment and for the enemy locomotives struck. For each destroyed locomotive or train wreck, the pilot and the navigator were supposed to pay 750 rubles, and other crew members pay 500 rubles.

Sea targets were the highest paid: the pilot and the navigator were supposed to sink the destroyer or submarine of the enemy - 10 thousand rubles, the rest of the crew - according to 2,5 thousand rubles; for sinking of transport - 3 thousand pilot and navigator, on 1 thousand other crew members; for a patrol ship or minesweeper - 2 thousand and 500 rubles; barges, tugboats and armed schooners - 1 thousand and 300 rubles.

In addition to the remuneration of pilots at the front, the same practice existed for test pilots. In addition, test pilots received a salary. 19 April 1943, Marshal Novikov approved the "Regulations on test pilots ...". The test pilot of the 1 class in the rank of lieutenant colonel, colonel received money in 2,2 thousand rubles per month. Test pilot 2-th rank with the rank of lieutenant colonel, major - 1,8 thousand rubles per month. Test pilot 3-th rank with the rank of major, captain - 1,6 thousand rubles per month. Test pilot of the 4 class with the rank of captain, senior lieutenant - 1,4 thousand rubles.

Test pilots were rewarded for particularly dangerous tasks, and very generously. Tester V. Matskevich wrote that for the test the pilot was given a bonus of 100 thousand rubles, the engineer - 60 thousand rubles, equipment - 30 thousand rubles (Matskevich V.V. Soldier of the Empire. M., 2006). This money was given to the families of the deceased testers. Test pilots and their families were one of the most wealthy categories of the population of the USSR in those years. However, they paid for their high income with their lives. The same Mackiewicz told how during one of their test flights he badly injured his leg. He was freed from flying, and his place was taken by the leading engineer Osipov. The testers did not return from this flight.

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  1. Egoza
    Egoza 8 May 2013 08: 47 New
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    Thank you for the article! Another confirmation of the wisdom of the leadership of I.V. Stalin and him real caring for people!
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    2. svp67
      svp67 8 May 2013 10: 27 New
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      Quote: Egoza
      Another confirmation of the wisdom of the leadership of I.V. Stalin and his real concern for people!
      Yes, and people were somewhat different ... You read the memories of veterans, and there they rarely remember these "premium" ones, it didn’t make sense to fight, but when they remember, they mostly remember that this money was "put together" in a "common boiler" "or sent to families with whom they were ...
      1. neri73-r
        neri73-r 8 May 2013 12: 41 New
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        But Comrade Khrushchev and subsequent leaders abolished this system and created equalization, which, in part, led to the decay of the elite and the collapse of the state !!! Perhaps at the request of Western "friends" or from their submission!
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 8 May 2013 17: 22 New
          +5
          People who worked with Khrushchev would not have received such bonuses for anything in the world. Risk your life ?! Neither Khrushchev nor his neighbors could accomplish anything of the sort in principle. And this money, which, in contrast to blood and heart, was given to people with a rupture (money that was so insignificant for people sitting at the mouth of death), cut the souls of the Khrushchevites intolerably. The general hectare was just killing them ... No, here Western "friends" are not needed. Our domestic infamy was quite enough ...
        2. StolzSS
          StolzSS 9 May 2013 18: 18 New
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          YES not from the part, but was a hidden driving force for discontent ...
    3. yurta2013
      yurta2013 8 May 2013 17: 03 New
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      In this case, the concern was not about people, but about increasing the number of disabled enemy equipment.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 8 May 2013 17: 23 New
        10
        And wouldn’t they pay that money — would not Messers bring down? For ramming a lot of people in the box office built? You have no conscience, try to strain even the gyrus ...
        1. yurta2013
          yurta2013 9 May 2013 05: 02 New
          -2
          Do not be silly. Material incentives always increase labor productivity, even at the front. For this, it was introduced both in the army and in the rear.
      2. Mugs
        Mugs 8 May 2013 19: 01 New
        +5
        And one is in no way connected with the other, in your opinion? If even one of the fighters was more motivated by the concern for relatives in the rear than the abstract concern for the motherland, what is bad for the motherland? He did what the Motherland needed most, and motivation is no longer so important.
        A very wise initiative, IMHO.
        1. yurta2013
          yurta2013 9 May 2013 05: 05 New
          -1
          The fact that it was a useful initiative to increase the combat effectiveness of the army, I did not deny. But what does concern for people have to do with it?
    4. Corsair
      Corsair 8 May 2013 19: 31 New
      +5
      Article, a hand reaches out to ply and plyusovat. Similar materials debunk the established myths imposed on us by the West and their minions, neo-liberals with an incomprehensible (and often fake) political color.
      Thanks to the author, I will wait with interest to continue the article!
      With the upcoming nationwide Great Victory Day! ! !
    5. starshina78
      starshina78 8 May 2013 20: 27 New
      0
      In addition to the pilots, anti-tank gunners were also encouraged. For each wrecked tank they were paid premium. A relative told me about this. He went through the whole war, fighting the anti-tanker.
    6. Corsair
      Corsair 8 May 2013 22: 07 New
      +4
      Quote: Egoza
      Thank you for the article! Another confirmation of the wisdom of the leadership of I.V. Stalin and his real concern for people!

      On May 1 in the Hero City of Kiev in the Walk of Fame, a bust was solemnly opened to the Hero of the USSR, test pilot Amet Khan-Sultan. A rather funny and at the same time instructive story is connected with the personality of this heroic person:
      Being (albeit already in the post-war years) a tester of the first anti-ship missiles being created in the USSR, he repeatedly exposed his life to danger (essentially being a suicide bomber) and received substantial rewards. The tests were delayed, the number of payments grew, and some bureaucrat (or just a dependent)
      decided to cut the amount of payments. Amet Khan Sultan with the directness characteristic of him in a financial document, which was supposed to lie on the table to I.V. Stalin, wrote:I do not agree with the reduction of payments. My WIDOW will object ...
      With this note, the document entered the Kremlin. After studying the text, Stalin imposed a resolution:I completely agree with the opinion of the widow ...
      Payments to the tester were kept at the same level and the tests continued.
  2. 123tank
    123tank 8 May 2013 08: 51 New
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    There was a normal system. We must not forget that the soldiers remained behind their families. They had to live not only in the holy spirit. I know this in my own skin.
    1. Gari
      Gari 8 May 2013 10: 48 New
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      Quote: 123tank
      There was a normal system. We must not forget that the soldiers remained behind their families. They had to live not only in the holy spirit. I know this in my own skin.


      Golovanov noted in his memoirs that "it was customary for Stalin not only to ask people, but also to take care of them."

      Great leader!
      1. yurta2013
        yurta2013 8 May 2013 17: 38 New
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        It is not necessary to attribute to this idea that which was not in it (concern for people). Stalin was only interested in an increase in the quality of combat work of the troops and nothing more.
        1. luka095
          luka095 9 May 2013 20: 36 New
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          Did Stalin consult with you when making a decision? Why do you so categorically assert that Stalin was interested and what was not?
          1. yurta2013
            yurta2013 11 May 2013 13: 28 New
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            Did he whisper to you personally about this in his ear? His "concern" for people is well known: Millions of peasants who were sent to special settlements in places unsuitable for agriculture. About a million people shot. Millions were sent to camps on the slightest suspicion of political disloyalty to the authorities or for several spikelets taken during public famine. More than 2 million dead from starvation, actually organized by the Stalinist regime during collectivization. It was your adored and caring Joseph Joseph Dzhugashvili who arranged the mass destruction of his own people. Although why own? He is not Russian, but Georgian. Georgia won Abkhazia and South Ossetia from his hands. And now, on this basis, he is shaking his rights to these republics.
    2. yurta2013
      yurta2013 8 May 2013 17: 08 New
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      The article deals with rewards for specific military successes. No need to generalize this to all warriors.
  3. igordok
    igordok 8 May 2013 08: 56 New
    +3
    Question.
    How was the plane counted as a downed gunner in the carriage? To the whole crew or to the shooter personally? Indeed, a part of each crew member and pilot, and navigator is invested in the victory. On the other hand, it was the shooter who shot down the plane.

    For example, in the Navy everyone knows Marinesko A.I. but no one knows the name of the sailor (foreman) who executed the “Pli” command.
    1. carbofo
      carbofo 8 May 2013 17: 48 New
      +6
      Strelka, // In short-range bomber and attack aircraft, a pilot, navigator and radio operator, who personally shot down an enemy aircraft received a cash award of 1 thousand rubles //
      Everything is clear without fuss, knocked down, confirmed, received an award.
      In war there is no place to spend money; most were sent or handed over to relatives.
      On the boat, the commander is responsible for everything, he is credited with victory, but the reward goes to everyone who was on the campaign. So it is established in the Navy, where the individualism of the team is minimal, unlike aviation or infantry.
    2. lelikas
      lelikas 8 May 2013 19: 40 New
      +2
      Most likely Mr. Pospelov V.I. or Art. Kurochkin V.A.
      Com БЧ-3 Ст, л-т. Vasilenko K.E.
  4. Kolovrat77
    Kolovrat77 8 May 2013 08: 57 New
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    We were also paid for the jumps. We were proud of it, that means the Motherland appreciates us, appreciates its elite. But believe me, we did not jump for lave, but for the idea.
    1. Goodmen
      Goodmen 8 May 2013 10: 29 New
      +3
      And sometimes they bought a hopping TV / video player for a company ... but for some reason they didn’t end up in the company. wink
      But at the expense of IDEAS I agree.
    2. stroporez
      stroporez 8 May 2013 10: 33 New
      +5
      "... to whom a piece of paper in three rubles." --- it’s familiar. we started such a barge ......... we ourselves were ready to pay Schaub to jump once again .........
    3. waisson
      waisson 8 May 2013 10: 46 New
      +1
      then there was a war and for jumping and now they’re paying. money for slaughtering enemies was usually sent to families, and you probably spent on cigarettes these days
    4. Gari
      Gari 8 May 2013 10: 55 New
      +8
      It is clear that this does not detract from the patriotism of the Soviet soldiers and their feat in this Great War. Patriotism and the willingness to give life for their homeland can not be bought. And, nevertheless, one should not turn a blind eye to the fact that the Soviet leadership did not forget, not only to educate "Stalin's falcons", the true patriots of the Fatherland, but along with moral encouragement, to materially support the soldiers.
      Yes, all the same there was a war, famine of devastation in the rear of the family, it’s clear that you won’t spend money on the front, and there is rations, and where to sleep (in the trenches), but for the family of parents, relatives and children just right
      And all the same, they fought for the idea, I don’t remember a single front-line soldier, like my grandfather, so that anyone talking about money, everyone just said that, “they went to beat the fascist,”
      1. Cheloveck
        Cheloveck 8 May 2013 22: 13 New
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        Quote: Gari
        And all the same, they fought for the idea, I don’t remember a single front-line soldier, like my grandfather, so that anyone talking about money, everyone just said that, “they went to beat the fascist,”
        That's right!
        Money was thought, perhaps, only a few units.
        None of the veterans stood at the forefront.
        I can only remember the surprise of one of them (the tankman) when he told me that for the improvement of the air filter he was already awarded 4 rubles, which he did not expect.
    5. taseka
      taseka 8 May 2013 13: 11 New
      +4
      Quote: Kolovrat77
      means the Motherland appreciates us, appreciates

      I remember that after Chernobyl, and there, too, the Motherland appreciated us, and then slowly took away almost everything, replaced it with vile monetization, and now it says completely, “so that you die quickly!”
    6. carbofo
      carbofo 8 May 2013 17: 59 New
      +3
      Apparently it is in the blood of Russians to be ideological, with little emphasis on the award in one form or another, unless the award becomes a symbol of labor.
      While my father was in a military hospital, the doctor asked me to donate blood.
      They drank tea, poured 400 ml., Led them to feed, gave tea, buckwheat with a cutlet, didn’t want to eat, but they had to go home, they paid 250 rubles, it seems, they gave a certificate for 2 days off from work.
      It would seem a trifle? and I drag this certificate with me as Sharapov in the film “The meeting place cannot be changed” // You put money for me on a savings book and put a book for me, it will warm my heart when I climb into the basement with you //
      And so I carry with me :) And the money, hmm, what is now 250 rubles, but still nice.
      I still have a 3-rank running badge from the army, the most expensive one, I know that it didn’t work, they gave me an advance for the third place in the standings, but this is still a reward for work, no matter what it is.
  5. omsbon
    omsbon 8 May 2013 09: 07 New
    +5
    Man is not alive in one spirit.
    Behind the rear of the family are children and the elderly, who are not able to feed themselves, as well as help. Although, I think that most of the money was spent on loans!
  6. Renat
    Renat 8 May 2013 09: 22 New
    +5
    Just today I watched a program on this topic. I don’t remember what the channel was. The fact is really little known. Very interesting and interesting program. The veterans themselves performed. Firsthand so to speak.
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    2. carbofo
      carbofo 8 May 2013 18: 02 New
      0
      transfer name or link please.
  7. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 8 May 2013 09: 29 New
    +8
    Then this issue was approached from the side of common sense, and with concern for the country and people, and not as it is now, from the side of personal gain. Your trough and pocket are more important.
    1. yurta2013
      yurta2013 8 May 2013 17: 15 New
      +3
      You think about what you write. Is paying for skydiving in the army now a concern for personal gain? This is just common sense and concern for the country and people.
  8. Kushadasov
    Kushadasov 8 May 2013 09: 55 New
    +3
    Thanks for the informative article. The idea is an idea, but no one has canceled material wealth))
    1. Orik
      Orik 8 May 2013 11: 00 New
      +4
      Reasonable balance is important, any extreme is harmful.
  9. avt
    avt 8 May 2013 10: 11 New
    +9
    So, drop by drop, on separate examples, a simple but chattered fact is proved that in the USSR there was material encouragement and in industry real competition plus planning. But how the manual put it into practice is another matter and it concerns specific characters.
    1. yurta2013
      yurta2013 8 May 2013 17: 18 New
      -5
      Where is this under Stalin, there was real competition in industry (except for the desire of directors of large enterprises to curry favor with Stalin)?
      1. Cheloveck
        Cheloveck 8 May 2013 22: 21 New
        +2
        Quote: yurta2013
        Where is this under Stalin, there was real competition in industry (except for the desire of directors of large enterprises to curry favor with Stalin)?

        There was competition, some more ...
        It is a little-known fact that under Stalin, private (artel) enterprises were quite healthy and prosperous.
        During the war, by the way, they produced a large share of ammunition, PPSh and PPS assault rifles, and much more.
        And state-owned enterprises competed with each other in full.
        Take at least the production history of ASh-82 and LA-5.
        1. yurta2013
          yurta2013 9 May 2013 05: 11 New
          -1
          You still say that there was also a market in Soviet industry. What kind of competition can there be if plans are lowered from above and the difference between enterprises is only in the degree of its fulfillment or overfulfillment.
          1. Canep
            Canep 9 May 2013 05: 30 New
            +1
            Oddly enough, the competition was very fierce, and the loser in the competition didn’t answer with money, but went to the logging site or to the front. Stalin had 2 independent reconnaissance structures through the NKVD (KGB) and army intelligence. Among the designers, too, there was always competition for testing rarely provided only one model of weapons. And after Stalin there was always a choice of a Zhiguli or a Moskvich to buy.
            1. yurta2013
              yurta2013 9 May 2013 10: 57 New
              -1
              Such competition is in any imperious bureaucratic vertical. I agree that with Stalin she was fed not only with additional material wealth, but also with fear of brutal repression.
    2. carbofo
      carbofo 8 May 2013 18: 05 New
      +2
      Everything was normal, an experienced locksmith or turner, received more than the director of the plant.
      Yes, and it was beneficial for the director that he had people who would carve out any detail by eye and it would go through the Quality Control Department, this is a guarantee that the plant will be in demand, the quality will be up to par, and accordingly funding will be normal and there will be less complaints.
  10. SHOCK.
    SHOCK. 8 May 2013 10: 12 New
    +6
    Useful article. Unforgettable Joseph Vissarionovich knew what he was doing.
  11. Goodmen
    Goodmen 8 May 2013 10: 25 New
    +6
    The system is necessary and useful! We would have the same to introduce. Maybe not only for military operations, but for indicators in peacetime activities. The difference between units (companies, platoons, etc.) in exercises, etc. Moreover, to introduce material rewards up to the rank and file.
    But in order to increase the efficiency of accrued money payments, carry out explanatory work with nachfins (or who is responsible for finances in parts now). Someone to plant, someone to shoot, if we are to be completely consistent. Under I.V. Stalin, I think there was no such mess in army finances.
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 8 May 2013 18: 03 New
      +2
      So the Stakhanovites were millionaires, and quite sickly sums could donate anywhere.

      In the first post-war year, Minister of Finance A. Zverev, worried about the high fees of a number of major writers, prepared an appropriate memorandum and presented it to Stalin. He asked to invite Zverev to him.
      When the minister entered, Stalin, not offering to sit down, said: “So, it turns out that we have millionaire writers? It sounds terrible, Comrade Zverev? Millionaire writers!”
      “Terrible, Comrade Stalin, terrible,” the minister confirmed.
      Stalin handed the financier a folder with a note prepared by him: “It is terrible, comrade Zverev, that we have so few writers-millionaires! Writers are the memory of the nation. And what will they write if they are starving?”
      1. yurta2013
        yurta2013 9 May 2013 05: 57 New
        -1
        What's the use? All the same, they could not spend these millions. Private property was banned, and even large authorities were afraid to buy too much luxury. So all that was left was to donate this money to some useful things for the country.
        1. Avenger711
          Avenger711 9 May 2013 13: 44 New
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          Well, where would you spend millions? To a new yacht? Yes, this is truly a holy right to have a personal yacht. And in general, there is private property and is personal, it is not the same thing. However, then a significant part of consumer goods was produced by non-governmental organizations.
          1. yurta2013
            yurta2013 9 May 2013 17: 58 New
            -1
            Buying something at that time was possible only in personal ownership. Only she was seriously limited. This is what I had in mind when referring to luxury. As for non-governmental organizations (cooperatives, artels), they were also under the full control of the state.
  12. hohryakov066
    hohryakov066 8 May 2013 10: 37 New
    +7
    Once again I was convinced that I.V. Stalin was much smarter and more progmatic than he was presented to us. Despite the fact that at that time ideology stood at an unattainable height today, the material part of the question was also worked out!
    1. yurta2013
      yurta2013 8 May 2013 17: 21 New
      +1
      The fact that Stalin was smart (in a certain respect) and progmatic no one ever doubted.
  13. individual
    individual 8 May 2013 10: 55 New
    +7
    Stalin personified honesty and integrity, personal unpretentiousness, but he knew that a simple soldier needed to organize and interest the people in fulfilling tasks of repelling fascist aggression and the work of the rear to ensure the Great Victory. soldier soldier soldier

    HAPPY GREAT VICTORY !!!
    1. yurta2013
      yurta2013 8 May 2013 17: 23 New
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      And he knew and knew everything in the world.
      1. Mugs
        Mugs 8 May 2013 19: 06 New
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        Why do not you love him? Do you like the following "secretaries" and presidents?
        1. yurta2013
          yurta2013 9 May 2013 05: 31 New
          -1
          It was in the Stalin era that the Russian peasantry was actually destroyed, which was driven into northern special settlements, collective farms and city barracks to serve industrial enterprises. Considering that the peasantry then accounted for about 70 percent of the Russian population, its rapid degradation that began led to the subsequent significant degradation of the entire Russian people. We have lost almost all the useful folk traditions, while preserving and multiplying the negative ones (drunkenness, theft, dishonesty, contempt for the law, etc.). It was Stalin who, with his repressions, destroyed a significant part of the most thinking population of Russia, further exacerbating the decline of the Russian nation. By the way, the repressions in the Red Army also seriously worsened the quality of its command staff at the beginning of the Second World War, which affected the course of hostilities at the beginning of the war.
          1. Evgeniy-111
            Evgeniy-111 9 May 2013 08: 27 New
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            And now, in the era of the general flourishing of democracy, all those who can think are destroyed or survive ... And the degradation is no less. And about theft and dishonesty, and contempt for ANY law (at least state, at least moral) and nothing to say. The speeches of many "figures" on Victory Day are an example.
            1. yurta2013
              yurta2013 9 May 2013 10: 59 New
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              These are just the natural long-term consequences of the Stalinist “fracture”.
          2. DMB87
            DMB87 10 May 2013 16: 40 New
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            May be enough? Your brains have been washed superbly.
            1. yurta2013
              yurta2013 10 May 2013 17: 10 New
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              And in my opinion, you were brainwashed back in school. The lack of historical knowledge needs to be filled now, when there are all the possibilities for this: books, the Internet.
      2. dmi32167
        dmi32167 8 May 2013 20: 03 New
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        yes her, he knew only one thing: to find people who can cope with the task. if you know how to interrogate and torture - in the NKVD, you know how to command infantry with light weapons and defeat a larger enemy - create an Airborne Forces. know how to make racquets - launch a person into space. Stalin was no good. would be a peasant - would die of hunger.
        1. yurta2013
          yurta2013 9 May 2013 05: 35 New
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          And why are you so sure that without Stalin our country would not have been able to create airborne forces and launch rockets into space. It is a pity that the great history of our great country begins for you only from the time of Stalin or, at best, from 1917.
          1. Lukich
            Lukich 9 May 2013 10: 10 New
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            We also had Peter the Great, who built a new country and made the whole world respect it (then this formation was called the Russian Empire, in the days of Stalin it was the USSR)
            By the way, the strongest Army and Navy of its time was built by Peter the Great, the Great.
            In the Great Patriotic War, the Soviet people defeated, led by Stalin.
            And we also had Nicholas II — who, to put it mildly, lost this Empire.
            And we also had Gorbachev m. ???
            And thank God that Russia can put forward at critical moments in the history of the Great Leaders.
            1. yurta2013
              yurta2013 9 May 2013 11: 08 New
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              One can argue a lot about the role of Peter the Great. The collapse of the empire in 1 is largely a logical result of the development of the contradictions laid down in the system of the Russian state by Peter the 1917st, and then deepened by Catherine the 1nd (this can be read in the books of the great Russian historian V. Klyuchevsky).
        2. Evgeniy-111
          Evgeniy-111 9 May 2013 08: 31 New
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          Finding the right person for a particular job is the MAIN work of the leader. And you can give a positive example of the current leaders of the country (except for the appointment of Shoigu as Minister of Defense?). By the way, not rackets, but rockets - you are not on the tennis court.
          1. yurta2013
            yurta2013 9 May 2013 11: 12 New
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            Public administration is a rather complicated matter, and if you manage today by the methods of Stalin, then nothing will remain of the Russian people.
            1. kirill110
              kirill110 9 May 2013 16: 40 New
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              You have liberal ideas, my old men until the end of their days respected Stalin IV, although the great-grandmother survived until 2001 and could no longer be afraid of "repression." Think about why the people called Stalin the Master, and what does the people call Gorbachev and Yeltsin? By the way, the birth statistics under Stalin, too, was by no means modern - liberal democratic.
              1. yurta2013
                yurta2013 10 May 2013 17: 16 New
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                It’s time to stop living only with the old man’s mind. Do you have your own head on your shoulders? Read more books. Get interested in the internet. And the birth rate statistics for Russians began to decline even under Stalin. And it continued to decline throughout the rest of the USSR.
  14. Avenger711
    Avenger711 8 May 2013 12: 02 New
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    The most important point here is that a soldier, even if he didn’t need to see the front line loot, could send money to the rear of his family, taking into account prices on the free market (state prices for the war didn’t go a penny), very good help. We also take into account the difficulties of accounting for destroyed weapons and manpower, so that any small things in the reports were written from the bulldozer, but serious frags for which money is paid were carefully taken into account.
    1. igordok
      igordok 8 May 2013 19: 29 New
      +3
      Quote: Avenger711
      could send money to the rear of the family


      And the mother (wife), buying something more expensive, could boast - that’s how my son (husband) beat the Fritz.
      1. Avenger711
        Avenger711 9 May 2013 13: 48 New
        +1
        Which is also not bad, automatic notification of the population in the rear about successes, so to speak.
  15. nemec55
    nemec55 8 May 2013 13: 51 New
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    Well, again, although indirectly, the topic of Joseph Stalin was touched upon: he is again good and on television we are again told about how bad he was yesterday just on the first channel we showed a woman a war veteran in the battles but did not serve in the hospital. The key phrase of her conversation was the Stalin regime and how difficult it was after the war. She then already felt the cult of personality, the totalitarian regime and all crap.
    1. yurta2013
      yurta2013 8 May 2013 17: 28 New
      -4
      The television is now full of programs and films where they represent Stalin almost a demigod. Sometimes there is even a suspicion that a turn of state policy is taking place to justify Stalin in the eyes of modern youth.
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 8 May 2013 21: 42 New
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        Quote: yurta2013
        there is a turn of state policy towards the justification of Stalin in the eyes of modern youth

        Speak smart words. But what would you personally do while you were in his place? Would you have bred Bolotnikov? Have you tried to breed freedom of speech and liberalism? So, some people (people?) Searched and took advantage of any occasion, just to be in a quiet area away from the front. Flesh to the point that in the winter in boots or boots they urinated to freeze their feet.
        1. yurta2013
          yurta2013 9 May 2013 05: 41 New
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          I am not going to deny that the system that was created by Stalin at the beginning of the Second World War, his own actions were fully consistent. The problem is that this system itself was fatal for the future of our country. She undermined the popular forces, thereby ultimately predetermining the collapse of the USSR and the current unenviable position of the country.
          1. Avenger711
            Avenger711 9 May 2013 13: 56 New
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            What did you smoke?
    2. Mugs
      Mugs 8 May 2013 19: 18 New
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      Rave. And I’m sure that then she didn’t feel anything. Then these stamps, in principle, were not. She was then inspired, enlightened, so to speak, that there was a "cult of personality", "totalitarian regime" and all other crap.
      I do not claim that Stalin was white and fluffy, he was tough and probably a gesture, but he wasn’t right to put him as a monster either, he wasn’t.
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  17. burikegorca
    burikegorca 8 May 2013 15: 07 New
    +1
    not bad! If money could be sent to your family to your relatives and friends and just needing those hard years!
  18. optimist
    optimist 8 May 2013 15: 09 New
    +4
    So let some people say now .. about equalization in the USSR. To each, as they say, according to work ...
    1. yurta2013
      yurta2013 8 May 2013 17: 33 New
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      Leveling under Stalin was forced to abandon in order to increase labor productivity. Although in the theory of socialism the transition was supposed to be precisely equalization with a view to the gradual introduction of the communist principles of labor.
  19. Odissey
    Odissey 8 May 2013 16: 05 New
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    Great article. One must not miss the sequel.
    It is pleasant to realize that the leadership of the country of that time perfectly understood that it was extremely necessary to encourage soldiers. Here, I think, it is also necessary to note the moment that for many this money was a very significant help since the beginning of civil life. After all, the country was not rich before the war, and the consequences of a difficult war were added to this. And there were many soldiers returning from the war to families with disabilities. So such incentives more played the role of lifting after the war.
  20. NKVD
    NKVD 8 May 2013 17: 28 New
    +1
    The current generation is scolding Stalin. The generation that lived with him did not hear that they scolded, except for those who themselves violated the law. A wise man was a guy, unlike our exhausted president. They steal billions and for this they let go
  21. mabuta
    mabuta 8 May 2013 18: 59 New
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    I don’t know how you would feel about this: - a lot of soldiers (who had families on occupied territory, orphanages and many others) transferred money to savings books, but this is a war - people die here. I don’t know if there was or was a deadline for deposits, but bureaucrats always knew where to snatch, and conscience (you ask) - and conscience is not material for them.
  22. dmi32167
    dmi32167 8 May 2013 19: 55 New
    +1
    The author wants to tell that in the summer of 41 Soviet soldiers wanted to "cut down the butterflies"? In this miserable little article they forgot a small trifle:
    many soldiers and officers did not spend this money on themselves.
    They gave them to help orphanages, hospitals, and for the purchase of military equipment. for some reason, many have heard about the help of all sorts of different hosiery factories that bought tanks and planes for the front. But the majority do not know about this downside, about money coming from the front.
  23. valiant
    valiant 8 May 2013 20: 07 New
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    Here is an episode in the memoirs of Chief Aviation Marshal Alexander Golovanov. He, at that time the chief pilot of Aeroflot, after the Finnish war, proposed the creation of a 100-150 aircraft connection, capable of performing particularly important tasks in the enemy's rear lines under any weather conditions. Stalin liked the idea, and he decided to start by creating a regiment capable of solving such problems. He offered to head the regiment, Golovanov, while not forgetting to make sure that the new appointment did not cause material damage to the pilot: “And now I have a question for you,” Stanin said as he approached. - How much salary do you get? “By the decision of the Council of People's Commissars four thousand rubles a month were determined to me, as the chief pilot of Aeroflot,” I answered somewhat puzzled. - And how much does the commander of the aviation ass get? - Stalin asked, referring to the drug defense of Marshal of the Soviet Union Tymoshenko. “We don’t get such a salary.” The ass commander gets one thousand six hundred rubles from us, ”said Marshal Tymoshenko. It became quiet. - And how much do you earn at all? Asked Stalin. The conversation took an unpleasant turn for me. - Comrade Stalin, I did not pursue money and do not pursue it. It is supposed to be one thousand six hundred rubles - I will receive such a salary. - But still, how much do you earn? “A lot,” I answered in a slightly raised tone, and fell silent. It was unpleasant and insulting to me that the conversation that had begun so well about the organization of the regiment suddenly switched to mercantile, secondary, as I thought, questions. I felt that my response was perceived undesirable by those present. Stalin walked silently, smoking a pipe. Having caught up with me, he stopped and calmly said: “Well, that you, as the regiment commander, will be at the government grub, you will be dressed and dressed for nothing, you will have a government apartment. With all this, apparently, it is advisable to leave you a salary. Why offend a person if he goes to a responsible, serious job? How are comrades? - He addressed those present. Voices were heard: "Right, right!" “Are you satisfied?” - He asked, turning to me. “Of course, quite satisfied, comrade, Stalin. - Well, that's good. It’s time for you to dress in your military uniform and get to work. Do you sew a uniform? “They'll probably sew it soon,” I replied.
    Therefore, there was no order about my appointment and assignment of a military rank to me, so there was no form, but I was shy about this to Stalin. Besides, I felt a natural feeling of awkwardness from such attention to me. Later I learned that it was not in me that Stalin was in the habit of not only asking people, but also taking care of them. For example, I had to witness such an incident. In 1942, industry was relocated to the east, but not everything went well in its organization. Things went bad with the program at one of the tank factories. The question was discussed: what to do? One of the comrades suggested that the director of the plant of one of the deputy commissars, a strong organizer, be able to sleep there, who will be able to rectify the situation. Stalin asked: - How much does the director of the plant get? They called him the amount. - And the deputy commissar? It turned out a lot more. - Does he have a family? - An affirmative answer followed. - How will you send him the director of the plant and reduce his salary, if he is good and a worker? - He is a communist and is obliged to implement decisions. “We are not all Social Revolutionaries,” said Stalin. “Does he manage his job here?” - Quite. - And you told him that you want to recommend him to the post of director of the plant? - No. There was a long pause ...
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 8 May 2013 20: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: valiant
      Here is an episode in the memoirs of Chief Aviation Marshal Alexander Golovanov.

      A. Golovanov "Long-range bomber". You can find in stores.
  24. pensioner
    pensioner 8 May 2013 20: 44 New
    +1
    Okay, even though our plane is in the photo (Pe-2), otherwise lately we’ve shied away from all sorts of photos ...
  25. Uzoliv
    Uzoliv 8 May 2013 22: 22 New
    +1
    For greater clarity, the article simply needs to indicate the prices of food (or goods) during the war. Moreover, prices must be indicated those that were on the market. For in a state store, in addition to money, you need to present cards. One of the books where fighter pilots are questioned by Drabkin, one of the veterans recalls that a bottle of vodka on the market cost 1000 rubles. Therefore, war veterans either transferred this money to relatives in order to somehow support their own, or simply transferred it to the defense fund.
    Here's something for the price:
    http://topwar.ru/7696-snabzhenie-naseleniya-produktami-pitaniya-vo-vremya-veliko
    y-otechestvennoy-voyny.html
  26. bublic82009
    bublic82009 9 May 2013 01: 32 New
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    the idea is good, but the money in the pocket didn’t interfere.
  27. Fitter65
    Fitter65 9 May 2013 01: 53 New
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    In the memoirs of many veterans, may God grant them health, both pilots and tankers, and artillerymen, mention is made of the moment of material payments for the shot-down-destroyed-destroyed. Moreover, many say that they either transferred them to the defense fund, or received after the war. And many argue that confirmation of the victory of the dates accruing this money was almost harder than the victory itself. ALL WITH HOLY HOLIDAY-VICTORY DAY !!!
  28. Lukich
    Lukich 9 May 2013 10: 13 New
    +1
    All War Veterans Congratulations on Victory Day !!!
  29. Evrepid
    Evrepid 9 May 2013 11: 14 New
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    Quote: Goodmen
    And sometimes they bought a hopping TV / video player for a company ... but for some reason they didn’t end up in the company. wink
    But at the expense of IDEAS I agree.


    I do not quite agree.
    We got a TV set after the jumps, of course we didn’t get paid, but there was a TV set.
    Then I stayed with the next guys, but I think the guys from my company are not sorry.

    Chocolate of course, accumulated, taken away. I remember on the train then the kids were treated. )))
    It was fun to watch them, in the famine (93 years), this chocolate burst.
  30. Takashi
    Takashi 10 May 2013 05: 18 New
    0
    I agree with Uzoliv.

    In the article it is necessary to compare the cash bonus with the average salary in the country, or at least (try with a grocery set), in extreme cases, with the cost of equipment (plane / tank). Indeed, during the war there were cases when ordinary people \ collective farms \ enterprises formed \ bought military equipment with their own money ..