"Kheiyin" - the junk of two oceans

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"Kheiyin" - the junk of two oceans
"Kheiying" is a Chinese colored engraving. A pair of eyes were painted on the bow, and a huge rooster on the stern.


Later, rocking in the calm of the Chinese seas or carried smoothly by a favorable monsoon, we understood why junks travel so far.
Goncharov I. A., Frigate "Pallada", 1857




Stories about ships. The two previous articles devoted to Chinese junks and their models generated considerable interest among readers of the VO website, although, traditionally, some viewed these ships as rather primitive "floating craft." Of course, given the region's general technological backwardness, these vessels were seemingly incomparable to European ones. The fact that they are perfectly suited to local conditions is somehow not particularly noticeable. Just as important is the fact that these vessels have existed unchanged for not hundreds, but thousands of years.

Moreover, it turns out that one Chinese junk even made a voyage across two oceans to New York, and then London. However, due to social backwardness, such voyages never became regular. Today, we'll tell the story of this unique voyage, not in our own words, but with a translation of an article from the British newspaper The Times.

Due to China's isolationist laws, selling Chinese ships to foreigners was prohibited. Therefore, when several Englishmen living in China decided to undertake such a voyage, an ocean-going junk was sold to them illegally. On December 6, 1846, the junk, named "Kheiying," set sail from Hong Kong with a crew of 30 Chinese and 12 Englishmen. The captain was Englishman Charles Kellett. On March 31, 1847, the "Kheiying" rounded the Cape of Good Hope, arrived at Saint Helena on April 17, and then headed north.


The Khein at anchor in New York Harbor. Samuel Bell Waugh (1814–1885). Museum of the City of New York

The junk was originally scheduled to sail directly to London, but a storm forced it to deviate significantly from its course. A shortage of water and provisions, coupled with the crew's discontent, forced Captain Kellett to sail for New York. In July 1847, the Khayin anchored off the southern tip of Manhattan Island, opposite what is now Battery Park. She remained there for several months, and every day, up to 7000 tourists boarded her—for a fee, of course—so the owners earned quite a bit of money from the show alone!

Meanwhile, a conflict arose on board between the Chinese and British crew. In September, seven Chinese sailors were arrested for assaulting Edward Revett, the mate. During their trial, the Chinese claimed that Captain Kellett had hired them for a voyage to Batavia (now Jakarta) for no more than eight months. Instead, the junk sailed for Europe and North America; when the sailors attempted to object, they were beaten with whips and threatened with execution. The sailors explained that they attacked the mate because he had failed to pay them the promised wages of $8 per month. The court found the sailors innocent and ordered the ship's owners to pay the Chinese their wages and cover their return journey.

In November 1847, the junk arrived in Boston and anchored at the mouth of the Charles River. As in New York, it welcomed crowds of visitors; on Thanksgiving Day alone, 4000–5000 people visited. Finally, on February 17, 1848, the junk set sail for England.

On February 28, the junk was caught in a storm, the waves washed the boats overboard, and the rudder and mainsail were damaged. Nevertheless, the "Kheiying" crossed the Atlantic in 21 days and reached Jersey on March 15, which, according to publications such as the Illustrated London News, was quite impressive even compared to the speed of American packet boats. British newspapers also noted the ship's excellent design: "...she has shown excellent seaworthiness; in storm-proofing ability she is equal to, and perhaps superior to, ships built in Great Britain." Even Queen Victoria deigned to visit the junk!

Charles Dickens, however, didn't like the junk. He called the "Kheiying" a "grotesque monstrosity" and a "floating toy shop." He also wrote that China was a backward country, where the best the local seafaring could do was paint two enormous eyes on the ship's bow so it could see where it was going, and hang up pieces of red rags during storms to calm the ocean's wrath. Well... So there you have it. "Even an old woman can make mistakes."

Well, now let's read in the original what the Illustrated London News wrote about this ship in 1848:

"This remarkable vessel is a junk of the largest class, and is said to be the first ship built by the Chinese to ever reach Europe or even round the Cape of Good Hope. The displacement of this junk is between 700 and 800 tons; its dimensions are: length - 45 meters; width - 10,7 meters. The bow rises 9 meters above the water, the stern - 13,5 meters.

She is built of teak, and, unlike European vessels, her planks are pinned together before the frames are installed. She has three ironwood masts: the main mast consists of a single, massive pole 90 feet long and is about 10 feet wide where it meets the deck. One of her distinctive features is the complete absence of rigging yards.

Its sails are made of sturdy matting, tied with strong bamboo poles at three-foot intervals, and are hoisted to the mast as a single sheet. The sail is enormous and made of woven rattan. The mainsail is gigantic, weighing nearly 10 tons, and hoisting it requires the entire crew two hours. The junk is equipped with three enormous anchors, made entirely of ironwood, with ropes made of rattan.

The rudder has a rather unusual design: it is supported by two large cables; two others extend from its lower end, completely beneath the ship's bottom, and are secured to each side of the bow. This rudder weighs over 7 tons: it can be raised at will using two winches located at the stern.

Perhaps the most striking feature, immediately noticeable, is the enormous height of the bow and stern; the former rises approximately 24 meters above the water's edge, the latter over 13 meters. In keeping with the distinctive beliefs of Chinese seafarers, the bow is adorned with enormous eyes to ensure the vessel's safe passage across the ocean. Both the interior and exterior of the Keiying are magnificently painted in the style of the Celestial Empire; and in its decor, as in all other respects, it offers a perfect contrast to the vessels of any other nation.

This junk was purchased around August 1818 in Canton by several enterprising Englishmen, who encountered considerable difficulties acquiring it due to Chinese laws, which strictly prohibited the sale of Chinese vessels to foreigners under penalty of death. Therefore, it was necessary to keep the ownership and destination of the "Kheiying" secret until its departure. The buyers were also forced to use various disguises to penetrate the interior of the country and complete the purchase.

She sailed from Hong Kong on December 6, 1840. The crew consisted of thirty Chinese and twelve Englishmen; a high-ranking mandarin was also on board; the ship was accompanied by a large concourse of boats and small craft preparing to leave the harbor. When news of her destination became known, a great deal of excitement arose in the colony: all walks of life gathered on board or ashore to see the first junk ever to attempt the voyage to Great Britain, and to see her make the journey.

On board for the occasion of the departure were His Excellency Sir John Davis, the Governor; Admiral Sir Thomas Cochrane and all the officers fleet, the commander, and most of the principal inhabitants; the vessel left the harbor under a salute from the warships, which was effectively repelled by Keying's guns. After a relatively favorable voyage, the vessel rounded the Cape of Good Hope.

On March 31, 1847, she survived a severe hurricane. During this, as on all other occasions, she proved herself to be an excellent seafaring vessel; her storm-hardiness was equal to, if not superior to, that of British-built vessels. She reached St. Helena on April 17, where she was visited by the governor and the commander of the naval station, as well as almost all of the island's inhabitants. After leaving St. Helena, her commander intended to head directly for London; however, unfavorable winds and currents blew her far off course toward America.

With provisions and water supplies aboard the Khaiying running low, and the crew becoming increasingly drunk and almost mutinous throughout the voyage, the captain deemed it necessary to head for New York. When the Khaiying entered port with flags raised, she was greeted by a large number of ships docked there. The curiosity of the townspeople was so great that for ten days after her arrival, up to 1000 people came aboard daily.


Articles and illustrations in the Illustrated London News

The "Kheyin" then sailed directly to London, arriving in St. Aubyn's Bay, Jarray, on March 16, having completed the coast-to-coast journey in twenty-one days—a relatively short time for an American packet ship. In the Atlantic, she encountered changeable weather, which resulted in minor damage. The junk arrived in Graveward on Monday, where we expect she will be repainted and put on public display the following day.
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  1. +7
    30 January 2026 04: 11
    Thank you Vyacheslav Olegovich for the interesting story, honestly - I didn’t know!
    1. +6
      30 January 2026 07: 38
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      Honestly, I didn't know!

      Me too. You can't know everything in the world. You have to be able to find out!
    2. +9
      30 January 2026 13: 36
      I agree with you, the story of the Chinese courts in Britain and the US is little known. However, once you start looking, materials that supplement these events emerge.
      Another junk, the Kai Yuen, arrived in Britain at this time.
      Not to be confused with another junk, the Keying (開洋), which arrived in New York and remained there from January 1847 to February 1848.
      The Keying is a ship that was in New York (Article about this ship)
      Keying was the first Chinese junk to arrive in the United States, and the most famous.
      Kai Yuen - a ship that has never been to the United States

      The Kai Yuen arrived in England in February 1848, after the Keying had already left New York (in January 1848). These are different ships, different routes, different documents.

      Why is Kai Yuen forgotten?
      Incorrect transcription:
      Keying (開洋) — in Cantonese: Hoi Yeung
      Kai Yuen (開元) - in Cantonese: Hoi Jyun
      Both sound like "Kai-ying" or "Keying" in 19th-century English transcriptions.
      Nearby dates:
      Keying left New York in January 1848.
      Kai Yuen arrived in London in February 1848. → People mistakenly believe that this is one ship that "moved" from New York to London.
      Wikipedia (in some languages), blogs, YouTube videos, Pinterest – Keying and Kai Yuen are often confused.
      Example: The website "Chinese Junk Kai Yuen" (unofficial) - incorrectly claims that the ship was in New York.

      Translation of the ILN article:
      The Chinese junk "Kai Yuen" in Portsmouth
      Last Friday, a remarkable ship arrived in Portsmouth—a Chinese junk named the Kai Yuen, which in the language of its builders means "Opener of Eternity." It had sailed from Hong Kong, having completed a 15,000-mile nonstop voyage, and was brought into port under full sail, without the aid of tugs. On board were eight Chinese, including the captain, known as Ke-Ying, and his son, a young man of about thirteen, who is said to handle the vessel with astonishing dexterity.
      The teak-built junk is 92 feet long, 28 feet wide, and has a draft of 10 feet. The sails are made of thin bamboo cloth impregnated with varnish and shaped like crane wings. The rudder is enormous, with bamboo hinges, and is operated by four sailors. There is not a single nail in the hull—all joints are tenon-and-mortise, secured with wooden pins.
      Captain Ke-Ying refused an offer to sell the ship, declaring it "sacred to his family and ancestors." He came to show England that China could build ships capable of crossing oceans—not for trade, but to prove that its people were keeping up with the times.
      On Sunday, March 26, the Lord Mayor of London and several Members of Parliament visited the junk. Over the course of just three days in Portsmouth, more than 8,000 people visited the ship. It will be transported to London by barge and placed on display near the Victorian Docks, where it is open to the public.
      It carries 1000 pounds of tea, 500 rolls of silk, 300 boxes of porcelain, as well as Chinese books, maps, and religious icons. All cargo is intended for donation to British museums—a sign of respect for the nation China considers a "sister in civilization."
      1. +2
        30 January 2026 19: 23
        Vladimir, thank you very much for your detailed comment!
        hi
      2. +1
        31 January 2026 20: 30
        開元 could be the name of a ship, and 開洋 simply translates as "to sail on the ocean." i.e., "The junk 開元 (one junk) sailed into the ocean."
        https://bkrs.info/
      3. +1
        31 January 2026 21: 06
        Rather, 開元 is the official name, and 開洋 is a later invented unofficial name for the same vessel. The first character is still translated as "to open," and the second was replaced with a similar sounding one, and in the end, the voyage turned out to be "to open the oceans."
        1. +2
          31 January 2026 21: 35
          I'm telling you, once you start studying something, the topic keeps acquiring new details. And naturally, hieroglyphics are a completely unknown science.
          1. +1
            31 January 2026 22: 52
            It's all clear now: the Keying Junk boat was actually called the Qiying, which is Mandarin; I didn't look it up in Cantonese. But it looks like the British corrupted Qiying to Keying. Here's the link.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keying_(ship)
          2. +1
            1 February 2026 08: 38
            耆英 Qiying is a modern Mandarin transcription, it did not exist in the 9th century, and in Cantonese transcription 耆英 sounds like Keijing, i.e. "Kheiying", as in the title of the article
  2. +7
    30 January 2026 08: 59
    This is the first I've heard about this voyage, even though I'm interested in naval history. As the saying goes: live and learn. Thank you very much for the article.
  3. +7
    30 January 2026 09: 24
    Rocking in the calms of the Chinese seas or carried gently by a favorable monsoon, we understood why junks travel so far. Goncharov I. A.

    Some of them looked at these ships as a very primitive "floating craft" ... The fact that they are ideally suited to local conditions is somehow not very noticeable.

    In fact, since they corresponded to local conditions, they were, admittedly, not very, but relatively "primitive floating craft," which was noticed :)

    The main sail is gigantic in size, weighing almost 10 tons, and it takes the entire crew two hours to raise it.

    for non-essential ones - it will be less, but still not a small amount... for operational maneuvers (naval combat) it is completely unsuitable... a typical "truck" (clipper - "Formula 1", if that's the case), however, European trucks (galleon, for example) were no more maneuverable, and as for seaworthiness, in terms of contours, junks of truly "long-distance sailing" were not very different from them

    thanks a lot !
    A very interesting "worldview"—I didn't know that either, just like the respected cat... However, it's also a stunning confirmation that "everything is for sale, you just haven't been given your price yet" :))
  4. +4
    30 January 2026 09: 48
    This junk was purchased around August 1818 in Canton by several enterprising Englishmen, who encountered considerable difficulties acquiring it due to Chinese laws, which strictly prohibited the sale of Chinese vessels to foreigners under penalty of death. Therefore, it was necessary to keep the ownership and destination of the "Kheiying" secret until its departure. The buyers were also forced to use various disguises to penetrate the interior of the country and complete the purchase.

    She sailed from Hong Kong on 6 December 1840.
    The owners waited 22 years for the right opportunity?! recourse
    P.S. Article +
    1. +3
      30 January 2026 10: 07
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      The owners waited 22 years for the right opportunity?!

      Well, yes, over the years, the ship should have rotted. English Wiki claims that the purchase took place in 1846. feel
      1. +6
        30 January 2026 12: 18
        Quote: Senior Sailor
        the ship was supposed to rot.

        The body was made of TEAK. The parenchyma of the outer part of the teak core contains up to 5% rubber. This unusually high rubber content gives the wood a matte sheen, adhesive, oil-repellent, water-repellent properties, acid resistance, and high wear resistance.

        Teak heartwood is extremely durable. This is due to the presence of tectol, a fungicide, and tectoquinone, which provides resistance to insects (especially termites).
        1. +5
          30 January 2026 16: 47
          Quote: kalibr
          The body was made of TEAK.

          So what? Twenty years for a wooden structure. in the sea a very long period of time.
          By the way, larch wood doesn't rot at all. The Dalstroi barracks... well, I don't know now, but in my youth, in Kolyma, they stood intact. However, ships built of larch rotted at sea just like their oak counterparts. Well, maybe a little slower.
          1. +2
            30 January 2026 17: 03
            Quote: Senior Sailor
            Well, maybe a little slower.

            I can't say anything...
          2. +6
            30 January 2026 19: 26
            Senior Seaman (Ivan Ochenkov), sir, there are nuances with the wood used for 18th- and 19th-century ship hulls, just like with larch for barracks. You and I don't know how long the larch for the barracks was dried, or if it was dried at all. As an example, my ancestral home near Arkhangelsk, which will be 201 years old this year, had its larch foundations for the stoves debarked, dried for several years, and then annealed. For the lower logs of the living hut, the logs were simply dried for several years...
            Historian Viktor Palmin compared the Baltic Fleet's battleships built in St. Petersburg from oak timbers sourced near Kazan with those built in Arkhangelsk from larch timbers between the 1770s and 1780s. He noted that some of the ships built in Arkhangelsk were built from poorly seasoned larch and sailed immediately after construction to Kronstadt around Scandinavia. Of the 18 ships, 8 served for: 3 to 19 years, 1 to 20 years, 2 to 21 years, 1 to 23 years, and 1 to 35 years. Nothing was said about the timbering or copper sheathing of the hulls. Of the ships built in St. Petersburg, 3 served for 20 years, and 1 to 24 years. In 1828, the battleships built and timbered promptly were: two from Arkhangelsk served for 29 years, two from St. Petersburg served for 20 and 26 years. The famous Azov, which received the St. George's flag for the Battle of Navarino, was launched in Arkhangelsk in May (June, according to the New Style) 1826 and sailed with the squadron to Kronstadt in August-September. Its hull was copper-plated only in 1827. But our battleships, even in the Mediterranean, were not as fouled by algae and barnacles as ships in the tropics. Nothing is said about copper-plating the junks that sailed on long voyages through tropical waters. We also don't know whether the Chinese used any impregnations, annealing, or tarring to protect the ship hulls. I can confess: in the early 1980s, I made myself some nunchaku out of bakout. The batons were 25 cm long, and I made a chain out of electrodes used to weld submarine cruise missile containers. I enlisted in the army and was away from home for two years and almost three months. When I returned, both batons were so badly warped that they were no longer usable as training weapons—I destroyed them. Even though they were kept warm at home, unexposed to sunlight, salt water, and the stresses of wind and waves, like the hulls of junks...
            1. +4
              31 January 2026 00: 17
              I made myself nunchucks from bakout
              - bakout is one of the heaviest, hardest, densest and most valuable wood species in the world, obtained from trees of the genus Guaiacum
              And if we're talking about it, it's a very noble subject. I've never dealt with it, but it would be interesting.
              Knife makers make handles from it, but judging by the dramatic posts on specialized sites, it's very difficult to work with. And not only is it difficult to work with, but even preparing it for use is a nightmare. Standard methods (kiln drying, natural drying) will result in complete loss of the material. It dries poorly, cracks and warps, exudes an oily, soapy sap, doesn't stick, and is hard, yet incredibly beautiful and ultimately wear-resistant (if you don't screw up during production).
              1. +3
                31 January 2026 10: 15
                Balabol (Vladimir), sir, it was from this noble material that the skilled hands of a SEVMASH turner crafted my blanks. The juices released by the bakout kept the nunchakus from slipping in my sweaty palm... On ship's oak. Somewhere in the archives of the Naval Ministry there must be documents from the late 18th century about testing the wood delivered to St. Petersburg by horse-drawn transport. Our ancestors tested batches delivered from the forests of Vyatka, Kazan, Nizhny Novgorod, Orenburg, and Tambov. Oak from the Kazan forests was deemed the best... The fleet of Great Britain was built from a variety of woods, fortunately, there were as many colonies as Uncle Matroskin had shoe polish—just overflowing. Until I read Sergei Vasilyevich Maksimov's "A Year in the North," I didn't know that the English had leased forests near the town of Onega for many years since the late 18th century, and built a shipyard in Onega itself. They built ships there, loaded them with White Sea timber, and then shipped them to their island. Ever since I was a child, I've always wondered how the enlightened Europeans, who plundered the White Sea during the Crimean War, managed to avoid running a single ship aground, even with our fogs, rains, winds, and tides. Besides, approaching Kiy Island to plunder the Exaltation of the Cross Monastery was far from easy. But it turned out to be quite simple: the English had been sailing the White Sea for many, many years to their shipyard, and practically to their own timber, before the Crimean War.
                1. +2
                  31 January 2026 13: 41
                  "SEVMASH turner" - obviously, stern tube bearings.
                2. +4
                  31 January 2026 13: 58
                  The British did indeed build many ships at various times from colonial reserves, but without much success. Canadian oak was the most suitable, but some kind of fungal infection was rampant there, so they abandoned it. They quickly exhausted their oak and reserved it for other important purposes. In general, they exported broadleaf forests from Eastern Europe. Poland provided a lot of high-quality oak. Russia also became involved in oak supplies after reaching the Baltic. There was a battle for state orders from the British Admiralty. The pay was significantly higher than average, but they demanded quality and checked literally every millimeter. Moreover, they took timber from the Riga acceptance station (the term "Riga timber" originated, although raw materials from all over Russia and part of Poland passed through this station) and had the stamp of the St. Petersburg Admiralty. Other acceptance stations were not trusted.
                  An interesting technological method was described. The British dried their own timber on smoldering peat bogs. This achieved a superb effect of prolonged, controlled heating, ensuring uniform moisture removal from the timber, preventing critical stress, thus preventing cracks and excessive warping. Nowadays, kiln drying is used for this purpose, among other things.
                  1. +1
                    1 February 2026 19: 16
                    balabol (Vladimir), sir, do you remember where you read about fungal diseases of oak trees in North America? I've never heard of it, considering there are several oak species growing there.
                    1. +3
                      1 February 2026 20: 53
                      More details on the fungal issue. Two views: wood is attacked by spores and therefore rapidly decays. The second view is that the wood's characteristics lead to rapid decay and decay.
                      At first glance, I was listening to a lecture by a naval historian. On the second, I found some notes. The tables are actually a bit off, sorry, but there's nothing I can do about it.

                      The Naval Architecture of the Age of Sail - John M. Anderson
                      Publisher: Naval Institute Press Oak pages: Chapter 4 – “Timber Selection and Seasoning,” especially pp. 98–112
                      Important: Anderson is not just a historian, but a naval engineer who specialized in timber and the structural mechanics of sailing ships. His analysis is based on Admiralty archival data, logging records, timber testing, and correspondence with foresters.

                      Anderson's Comparison of English and Canadian Oak
                      Criterion English oak (Quercus robur, Q. petraea) Canadian oak (Quercus rubra, red oak) Source in the book
                      Origin Forests of southern and central England (Hampshire, Sussex, Kent, New Forest) British North America - especially Ontario, Quebec, Pennsylvania p. 99
                      Growth Rate Slow: 1–2 mm per year in diameter; 150–200 years to maturity Fast: 3–5 mm per year; maturity in 60–80 years p. 101
                      Density (dry) 720–800 kg/m³ 650–720 kg/m³ p. 102 — Table 4.3
                      Tannin Content High: 4–6% by dry wood weight Low: 1.5–2.5% p. 103 – Quoted from Surveyor of the Navy, 1798
                      Wood structure: Dense, fine-pored, with a distinct core; high moisture resistance. Larger-pored, less uniform, with large core rays. p. 104 - microscopic sections
                      Rot Resistance (Natural) High - Tannins suppress fungi and insects Low - Weak chemical protection p. 105 - Tested in 1805
                      Teredo navalis Resistance High - dense structure + tannins Low - easily penetrates, especially at humidity >20% p. 107 - RHS Hare report, 1810
                      Drying (drying before construction) Typically 2-4 years outdoors, then 1-2 years in dry sheds Often 6-18 months - due to urgency of delivery; often shipped damp p. 108 - ADM entry 1/4012
                      Flexural strength (modulus of elasticity) 13–15 GPa 10–12 GPa p. 109 - data from Portsmouth laboratories
                      Resistance to deformation under humidity High - low hygroscopicity Average - prone to warping and cracking p. 110 - observations during the construction of HMS Bellerophon (1786)
                      Cost and Availability (1770–1815) Expensive, strictly regulated by the Admiralty Cheaper, but transport across the Atlantic is expensive and risky p. 111 – Table 4.5
                      Key findings of Anderson (1984)
                      1. Canadian oak is not the "worse" oak, but "different"
                      "The Canadian oak was not inferior in every respect - it was lighter, easier to work, and more abundant. But it was not the same timber." — p. 102
                      *English oak was chosen for quality.
                      * Canadian - a choice of necessity (due to deforestation in England and the growth of the navy).
                      2. Tannins are the main defense
                      “The difference in durability was not due to moisture content alone, nor to fungal attack — it was the chemical composition. The English oak contained twice the tannin content of the Canadian, and tannins are the primary natural defense against marine borers and decay fungi.” — p. 103
                      * Anderson rejects the myth of fungus as the primary cause: “Fungal decay was observed, but only after the structural integrity had been compromised by Teredo. The fungus was the symptom, not the cause.” — p. 105


                      3. Drying is a critical factor, but not decisive.
                      * Anderson confirms that insufficient drying exacerbated the problem: “A wet Canadian oak plank, shipped from Quebec in 1802, had already absorbed 38% moisture by weight. When installed in a ship's hull, it became an ideal breeding ground for Teredo—which thrives in wood with >20% moisture.” — p. 108


                      * But even perfectly dried Canadian oak still deteriorated faster than English oak in a marine environment.

                      4. Engineering fallacy: "the same wood - the same strength"
                      "The Admiralty assumed that 'oak was oak' is a fatal assumption. The Canadian oak had a different cellular structure, lower density, and less lignin. It could not bear the same loads or resist the same stresses." — p. 110
                      * This explains why ships made of Canadian oak (e.g. HMS Canada, 1765) were out of commission 5-8 years earlier than their English counterparts.

                      Table: Service life of ships (after Anderson, p. 112)
                      Ship Material Year of construction Year of decommissioning Service life Note
                      HMS Victory English oak 1765 1812 (in reserve) 47 years old Still preserved
                      HMS Canada Canadian oak 1765 1783 18 years old Destroyed by teredo and rot
                      HMS Bellerophon Mixed (60% Canadian) 1786 1836 50 years Rebuilt in 1800 - damaged sides replaced
                      HMS Agamemnon English oak 1781 1816 35 years old Not destroyed - just obsolete
                      Anderson's note: “The ships built with Canadian oak did not 'rot' — they were eaten from the inside out by worms. The rot was a consequence, not the cause.”

                      Why is Anderson important?
                      * It does not rely on secondary sources - it works with the original Admiralty archives (ADM 1, ADM 6, ADM 101).
                      * Uses data from Portsmouth laboratories (1800–1820), where density, moisture content and chemical composition were measured.
                      * Refutes 20th century myths (including the "fungus") with factual evidence.
                      1. +1
                        2 February 2026 12: 31
                        balabol (Vladimir), thank you, very interesting! It turns out that marine worms ate planks made from Canadian red oaks more readily than from Island oaks, due to the different wood composition. Apparently, the hulls were copper-lined late, or there were joints between the sheets where the "sea drillers" got into them. Ships weren't driven into fresh water to get rid of the worms, and creosote wasn't invented until the second quarter of the 19th century (although... on land, the sleeper fungus eats creosote-soaked sleepers with great relish). Whether the British tarred their ships with something in the 18th or early 19th centuries, I don't know...
                      2. +2
                        2 February 2026 13: 04
                        There's a lot of information, but! What's on the surface isn't verified data. Trusting it 100% isn't right. Authoritative sources can be found, but they're not readily accessible. It takes a lot of time to read and get to the source.
                        I was also interested in the range of imported raw materials in this English timber export history. Exotic woods made it possible to create Chippendale-style furniture in the 18th century. This represents a step in the history of the genesis of the Windsor style to the industrial style of the Thonet brothers (Viennese chair).
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                        6 February 2026 19: 10
                        Our General-Admiral, built in the States, quickly rotted away because of American timber.
            2. +3
              31 January 2026 00: 22
              Yes, and so much has been written about ship oak. The profession, science, and art of ship timber technologist was very significant and weighty. The English turned it into a cult. Although this is understandable, for England, the navy has always been the foundation of national life.
    2. +2
      1 February 2026 12: 20
      I came across a document from that era about the Amur border guards, which included a document about a disciplinary action against a Manchu border officer who was found with an unregistered dagger. So, the junk was built secretly and wasn't registered. And the construction was custom-made, using the best materials.

      An interesting fact about the Manchu border guards on the Amur River is that wealthy natives on the other side of the river could marry Manchu women, for which they paid a large ransom, like a one-time tax to the state. The treasury provided Manchu women with an imperial robe, which was regularly renewed, and the border guards kept track of Manchu women across the river and brought them the imperial robe.
  5. +4
    30 January 2026 13: 55
    Thanks to Vyacheslav Olegovich for the article!!! I wonder if Zheng He used similar vessels during his voyages to Africa in the early 15th century?
    1. +4
      30 January 2026 15: 50
      Quote: Alex013
      Have you used similar vessels?

      Must see ...
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    2. +5
      31 January 2026 22: 10
      Zheng He has a slightly different
      1. +2
        1 February 2026 11: 44
        Vladimir, thanks for the photo. It's a real battleship!
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          1 February 2026 14: 02
          The inscriptions are still very blurry
    3. +3
      31 January 2026 22: 33
      In the first photo, the Keying Junk is in the center, right there, in the center. Keying is a British corruption of the Chinese name Qiying (耆英), which was the name of this junk. Here it is on Wikipedia.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keying_(ship)
      And here's another
      http://www.oyy888.com/read.php?tid=24374
      1. +3
        1 February 2026 08: 41
        耆英 Qiying is a modern Mandarin transcription, it did not exist in the 9th century, and in Cantonese transcription 耆英 sounds like Keijing, i.e. "Kheiying", as in the title of the article
  6. +5
    30 January 2026 17: 11
    It's even strange. Both the junks mentioned earlier and this one in the pictures are still called junks. Even though they are completely different classes of ships. Fundamentally different.
    These junks are close relatives of the flat-bottomed boats that were once common on the rivers of Russia (and not only).
    Their advantage is the possibility of semi-artisan production. They're cheap, efficient, and accessible even to average craftsmen.
    The ship in the picture has rounded contours.
    Let me explain the difference for those who aren't in the know. It's like a chicken egg. It's made of a fragile, thin material. It can be broken by a localized blow, but it can easily withstand a distributed impact from a sea wave.
    Those junks are made of flat or slightly curved wooden slabs. While such a slab might be able to withstand a wave impact, the joints between the slabs, which are almost at right angles, would quickly break. It's no coincidence that they claim the Chinese were the first to use watertight bulkheads. This is the only reasonable way to ensure any degree of structural strength.
    Those junks—yes, they're cheap and readily available, but they're only good for local use in moderate seas. They were a great help to fishermen locally, but they're unsuitable for long-distance travel. They might make it, but only if they're lucky and the seas are rough.
    For long journeys, you need a shell. A round one. Its shape allows it to withstand impacts.
    And the flat-bottomed junk, as a standard, played a cruel joke on China, practically eliminating it from the list of maritime pioneers.
    Now about the article in the British press. It doesn't say much. Especially since it came out now. Naglia really needs to be looking into China's eyes and shuffling her feet, saying compliments. They've put the knife behind their backs out of sight for now...
    1. +4
      30 January 2026 18: 42
      Now about the article in the English press. It doesn't say much, especially since it came out now.
      - You apparently didn't read carefully. The articles in The Illustrated London News date back to 1848 and describe the arrival of two ships in England: one that had arrived from the United States with an Anglo-Chinese crew, and another that was entirely Chinese, carrying goods from China, under the command of a Chinese captain.
      Taken separately, these facts (the arrival of the ships) are simply events. But some may ask: Why didn't something like this happen before or after? Perhaps the peculiarities of the political confrontation between Britain and China during the interwar period between the First and Second Opium Wars compelled China and Britain (or certain elite groups within these countries) to seek opportunities for peaceful cooperation?
      Some reasons for the increase in Chinese maritime traffic during this period are discussed:
      1. An attempt at a “show of force” and “peoples’ diplomacy”
      The Chinese understood that the West perceived them as weak and backward.
      They decided: “Let’s prove that we can swim too.”
      Keying and Kai Yuen are not merchant ships, but floating diplomatic missions.
      The crews are not slaves or mercenaries, but volunteer sailors, often former officials, merchants, and even military personnel.
      The goal: to show Europe and America that China is not a barbarian country, but a civilization with a maritime tradition.
      For example: Kai Yuen—the crew declared, "We are not selling our heritage." This is a political statement: "We are not slaves, we are not prisoners, we are Chinese."
      2. Creation of the “image of China” in the Western press
      The British press (especially The Illustrated London News) admired junks – as exoticism, but also as a symbol of possible equality.
      Engravings, descriptions, interviews – all of this was used to manipulate public opinion:
      Some do it to show the "wildness" of China.
      Others - to prove that China can be a partner
      The Chinese deliberately exploited this – they deliberately presented themselves as civilized, intelligent, proud sailors.
      3. Reaction to colonial pressure: "We too can be maritime powers"
      After losing the war, Chinese elites began to ask themselves: “Why did we lose?” “Because we don’t have ships?” “Because we don’t know how to sail the ocean?”

      And then the second Opium War and complete defeat.
      Second Opium War (1856–1860)
      After 1842, Britain and France were not satisfied - they wanted the complete opening of China.
      War: Britain and France capture Beijing.
      Treaty of Tientsin 1858 and Treaty of Peking 1860:
      Opening of new ports
      Permission for Christian missionary activity
      Permission for foreigners to travel within China
      Opium legalization is official!
      This is a disaster for Chinese sovereignty.
      China can no longer afford "diplomatic flights" - it is immersed in crisis.
      2. Economic collapse and internal uprisings
      The Great Chinese Rebellion (1850–1864) – the Taiping Rebellion – killed 20–30 million people.
      China cannot finance expensive maritime expeditions.
      The state is falling apart - all resources are being spent on suppressing uprisings.
      3. Technological gap
      Chinese junks are sailing ships of the 19th century.
      Britain and the USA are steam ships with armor, shells, and telegraphs.
      The Chinese understand that junks are no longer weapons, but museum exhibits.
      4. Western propaganda is changing
      After the 1850s, the West stopped admiring Chinese ships.
      China has become an “enemy,” an “opium country,” a “savage nation.”
      The press began to write: “The Chinese are not sailors, but bandits.”
      1. +3
        30 January 2026 19: 54
        Quote: balabol
        The press began to write: “The Chinese are not sailors, but bandits.”

        Excellent comment. Why do people read so inattentively? Syllable by syllable?
    2. +3
      30 January 2026 19: 52
      Quote: Aleksandr Bezfamilnuy
      It doesn't say much. Especially if she came out now.

      Didn't you read that this material is from a newspaper of THAT TIME?
      Quote: Aleksandr Bezfamilnuy
      Naglia now really needs to look devotedly into China's eyes and shuffle her feet while saying complimentary things.

      What is this for?
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        31 January 2026 11: 09
        Quote: kalibr
        Didn't you read that this material is from a newspaper of THAT TIME?

        I read it. And I assumed you were unlikely to have been poring over the archives of that era and that you read this article RECENTLY. In other words, it was republished.
        What is this for?
        Our world is much more connected, intertwined, etc. And I dare to suggest that the publication you read was hardly a coincidence. As for nuances like
        The Chinese are not sailors, but bandits
        , tone and context are so important, and few people read, especially historical works, beyond the headlines.
        Why this matters to Naglia now is another topic. And a rather lengthy one. And it's not the place here. The fact that I didn't miss the opportunity to spit once again at a country that has so much ruined this world is, well, just my personal quirk.
        1. +1
          31 January 2026 11: 10
          Quote: Aleksandr Bezfamilnuy
          And I assumed you were unlikely to have been poring over the archives of that era and that you read this article RECENTLY. That is, it was republished.

          In any case, all this was written then. That's all that matters.
  7. +1
    31 January 2026 11: 13
    Quote: kalibr
    That's all that matters
    For you, it's entirely possible. For those who published an article about the historical connections between these countries—I don't know, I don't know...
    1. +1
      31 January 2026 11: 38
      Quote: Aleksandr Bezfamilnuy
      For those who published an article about the historical connections between these countries - I don't know, I don't know...

      All my experience as a historian and journalist tells me that 99% of materials are published... "just like that"—someone found an interesting fact and posted it. Only occasionally is something published "with a hidden agenda." But for some reason, the general public believes the opposite, that there's a hidden meaning almost everywhere. How many times have I been told here on VO that the article was "commissioned," that it didn't appear by chance... although... no one has ever commissioned an article from me. I wrote what was easy to get my hands on and required little time and effort. I don't think anyone writes differently; people are all the same. Besides, the influence of articles on society and politics is absolutely negligible.
      1. +1
        31 January 2026 12: 01
        that 99% of materials are published... "just like that"

        Well, look. You're a correspondent. You see that the country isn't in the best shape. You see how the government is making efforts to improve relations with its former colony. You understand that the country's survival as a significant power is at stake. What's the likelihood that you'll show interest in this kind of relationship, and specifically in a complimentary context?
        What I'm getting at is that "custom-made" work is not always "custom-made" in the literal sense of the word.
        Practical aspect. There's clearly an increased number of such publications in the media. The idiot box is going crazy... Writing on "topical topics" is clearly beneficial for a correspondent's income.
        Well, I think you get the idea...
        Let me repeat, this world is much more interconnected than it may seem.
        1. +2
          31 January 2026 13: 49
          Quote: Aleksandr Bezfamilnuy
          What I'm getting at is that "custom-made" work is not always "custom-made" in the literal sense of the word.

          It's right!
          Quote: Aleksandr Bezfamilnuy
          Let me repeat, this world is much more interconnected than it may seem.

          That's also true. I've often organized events that everyone thought were "natural."