We write F-15 in Hebrew, F-35 in our minds

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We write F-15 in Hebrew, F-35 in our minds

Interestingly, with 39 F-35I fighters in their inventory and an order for 75 more, Air Force commanders aren't resting on their laurels. They've also ordered 25 fighters in addition to the 66 F-15s in various configurations, with the option to add another 25. A bonus is the upgrade program for the existing F-15Is to the F-15IA, or F-15EX, standard.

Boeing, which currently produces these planes, is, of course, delighted with the $8,5 billion that suddenly appeared out of nowhere. But the real question is, "Why this sudden windfall?" because the situation seems peculiar.



Yes, the maneuver itself is strange for several reasons:

- Israel does not wage wars with high-tech countries, of which the only one in the region is Türkiye, with which, although there are no diplomatic relations, there is nothing to fight about;

- Israel's traditional enemies, Libya, Syria, and Iraq, are in a state in which a war with the Israeli army looks like suicide;

- Iran... Iran is a very difficult matter, but airstrikes in the "exchange of pleasantries" between Iran and Israel are a complicated and expensive matter, the countries are, after all, separated by one and a half thousand kilometers, and therefore it is much easier to throw rockets, than to organize dogfights over the Syrian desert.

More precisely, it's easier for Iran. It'll take a while for Russian aircraft to fill the Iranian Air Force, and for pilots to learn and master the new technology... In short, this won't take a couple of years, and given the level of training of Israeli military pilots, the Iranians will have to invest a lot to even approach the Israelis' level.

And then the question of the century arises: "Why?" It's clear that the Israeli Air Force won't have nearly a hundred F-35s at its disposal anytime soon, but even what it has is already a force that's not so easy to deal with. And considering who Israel has been fighting recently, it's even more so: Hezbollah, Palestinian terrorists, the undefeated Syrians, and so on. It's clear that the F-35I is clearly overkill, but when the ground forces are in a systemic crisis...


There are people here who are knowledgeable in the matters aviation They came up with two versions of what was happening, one of which was worthy of both REN TV and TV3. The daring experts linked it... to Denmark and the Greenland crisis!

On the one hand, it seems absurd, because the culprit was one of the statements by the Danish military department that the Danish Air Force F-35s would under no circumstances take part in operations in Greenland, if any were to take place at all.

Some interpreted this in their own way, claiming that the Americans had indeed remotely shut down the Danish F-35s, as reports of such incidents have long been rattling the minds of writers around the world. And, as was quite objectively noted, Denmark simply has no other aircraft: the old F-16AM/BMs, condemned to decommissioning back in 2014, now form the backbone of Ukraine's "air shield."

In fact, it's all so far-fetched... Even if the F-35 does have some kind of "switch," and it very well could, a modern aircraft is a very complex machine. It's easy to just plug in a small antenna unit that, upon receiving a certain signal, would block certain circuits and turn the plane into a pile of junk. They do this with smartphones—why not do the same with more complex technology? The principles are the same.

And so some rushed to declare to the world that Israel doesn't trust its benefactor-allies, and is therefore ordering aircraft that lack an "off switch." It seems controversial and ridiculous: Israel is ordering NEW aircraft that can be outfitted with anything, including a self-destruct device, during assembly. And the aircraft's complexity may prevent the engineers installing Israeli-made components in place of American ones from detecting the "replica," especially since it can simply be smeared across any control board, say, the engine control board. In short, it's a very conspiracy theory.


This is especially true given how many of the F-35I's avionics and other systems are Israeli-designed and manufactured. Official statements regarding the contract already stated that the F-15IA aircraft would be equipped with Israeli-made avionics, communications, weapons control, and electronic warfare systems.

In general, the “switch” version doesn’t look right at all.

It probably makes sense to move away from the economic version and look at the situation calmly.

As mentioned above, today Israel's enemies have, to put it mildly, become smaller. Palestinian militants, Hezbollah... Well, maybe some other dives from the former Libya and Syria. But fighting them doesn't require such high-tech capabilities. weapon, like the F-35I. I hope no one will argue with that.


Iran... Yes, high-tech weapons are necessary with that country, but a war with Iran can only proceed in one scenario: missiles fly from Iran to Israel, and Israel fights back. And, as recent events show, it will become increasingly difficult for Israel to fight back with each successive attack.

Missiles won't be launched from Israel to Iran. Israel simply doesn't have the staggering numbers Iran can fire. So, yes, planes. In theory, missiles should also be launched from Iran. And they will, I'm sure; Iran has drawn all the necessary conclusions from what happened in the latest skirmish. The only question is effectiveness, but the fact of the matter is that Iran has plenty of effective missiles.

Are F-35Is needed for a war with Iran? More likely than not. No matter how you look at it, they have a better chance of approaching and striking. But then, we need to look at certain parameters, not just those of the F-35I and F-15IA, but also the F-16C/I, of which the Israeli Air Force has over 150.

The parameters are simple.
The first is the cost per flight hour.
F-35I - $42,000.
F-15IA - $33,000.
F-16C/I - $27,000.

Cost of one aircraft:
F-35A – $104 million
F-15EX – $94 million
F-16C/D – $77 million.

The cost of Israeli electronics conversions is a great mystery; no one has precise data. However, it's not particularly interesting in this case.

The combat load:
F-35A – 8,160 kg
F-15EX – 13,400 kg
F-16C/D – 10,000 kg

And I'll allow myself one more parameter: moral damage from loss.

F-35 – a worldwide sensation in the style of “All is lost, the best aircraft in the world has been shot down!”
F-15 – yes, something went wrong, we need to find the culprits
F-16 – oh, here we go again…

Overall, it's clear: the most expensive and sophisticated aircraft carries the lightest combat load, and the damage from its loss will be the greatest. It's certainly only a matter of time before the Iranians eventually bury the Penguin.

But the use of the F-35I in a hypothetical conflict against Iran is justified. A stealthy aircraft has every chance of getting within missile launch range and firing on radars, air defense systems, and other defensive targets.

Then the F-15s come into play, each capable of pulling the weight of two F-35Is, and continue to plough through Iran's military infrastructure at a significantly lower cost. It's all logical, everything's fine.


But the question remains: will this war actually happen? It's not a given that Iran and Israel will engage in such a clash. At the very least, Israel's enthusiasm is waning, but that's understandable: Iran's underground cities will provide as many missiles as needed, but whether Israel can stockpile enough anti-missiles is a question.

However, here is the problem: all this speculation is a good thing, the question of whether Iran and Israel will come together is a long-term one, but if all this happens, it will not happen tomorrow.

Today, Israel is fighting exclusively against lightly armed militant groups of various stripes. And using the F-35 for this purpose is about as logical as rolling a McLaren Senna into Izmailovsky Market on Saturday. Sure, it's possible, but it wouldn't work very well.

You don't have to be an expert to understand that an F-16 is sufficient for dropping bombs on militants who don't even have MANPADS and using missiles to demolish buildings in Gaza. It's cheap and effective, while more powerful aircraft are useful for more serious tasks.


The F-15 is a compromise between the F-35I and the F-16. It's a very reasonable one. So, $18,82 billion for the purchase of 50 F-15IA fighters, as well as for upgrading existing F-15Is as part of a comprehensive package, is a completely feasible program.

The Israeli Defense Ministry said F-15IA deliveries would begin in 2031 and would be delivered at a rate of four to six aircraft per year.

The new F-15IA will be equipped with advanced weapons systems, including the latest Israeli technology, the Israeli Ministry of Defense stated. The upgraded aircraft will have an increased range, increased payload capacity, and improved performance in various operational scenarios.


It is clear that the "new" F-15IA that Israel will eventually receive is based on the F-15EX used by the US Air Force, so it will be a truly advanced aircraft, comparable in performance to the F-35I.


And the F-15EX is well-positioned to play a significant role in modern warfare, providing significant additional long-range firepower, sensors, and electronic warfare capabilities in combat zones, complementing fifth-generation fighters or even replacing them as possible or necessary.

In the past, both Boeing and the US Air Force emphasized the aircraft's range and weapons payload. In the US context, these characteristics are now considered particularly important for operations in the vast Pacific Ocean. Meanwhile, Israel has long valued the F-15 for its ability to strike targets at long range and carry a large payload.

The latest versions of the F-15 also possess the useful ability to carry heavy weapons, including hypersonic missiles, as well as a larger number of conventional weapons. Again, this feature of the aircraft will be of particular interest to Israel. Recent Israeli Air Force operations against Iran have demonstrated the growing importance of air-launched ballistic missiles for striking ground targets, which are also well-suited for the F-15IA.

It's unclear whether the entire F-15I fleet will be upgraded, as previously proposed, but it's reasonable to assume the F-15IA will replace the older F-15A/Ds still in service. If the F-15I fleet is upgraded, it would be in line with Saudi Arabia's approach, which has purchased new F-15SAs and upgraded existing F-15Ss to the same standard. It's worth noting that the Saudis, of all people, know how to spend money on defense.


The Israeli Air Force is deservedly considered the best in the region. The only question is effectiveness, and effectiveness can be not only combat-related but also economic. As discussed, the F-35I, despite all its capabilities, cannot be considered an efficient aircraft from an economic standpoint. It costs more to the budget than to its adversaries, so acquiring the equally combat-effective F-15EX, which is significantly more cost-effective, is a very good move.

Here again, it's just numbers: for $1 million, a squadron of F-35Is will make 12 two-hour flights and transfer almost 100,000 kg of combat payload to the enemy.

For the same money, a squadron of F-15EX will make 15 similar flights and deliver 201,000 kg of ammunition.

That's basically it, down to the last shekel. The F-35I is a great way to scare the enemy and even carry out precision strikes. But when it comes to mass destruction, the F-35I is clearly inferior to the old F-15EX "Igloo."

So, the Jewish gentlemen are managing their budget quite wisely in this regard. And, I suppose, there's no "off switch" in the F-15...
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  1. 14+
    22 January 2026 02: 54
    The F15 is a heavy fighter-bomber, and that says it all and defines it all. It delivers twice the amount of weapons. Period. Everything else is irrelevant.
    1. -4
      22 January 2026 08: 02
      Quote: pudelartemon
      It delivers twice as many weapons
      Until it gets under air defense radar...
      1. 10+
        22 January 2026 12: 08
        The air defense radar simply explodes before the F-15s even arrive, having been destroyed by the F-35s flying ahead. These aircraft don't operate autonomously; they're part of a system. First, you deal with the air defenses using your super-powerful and expensive stealth aircraft, and then you can send in your heavy fighter-bombers to cheaply bomb everything around. A perfectly logical tactic.
        1. -2
          22 January 2026 18: 00
          Quote: overland
          First you deal with the air defenses using your super powerful and expensive stealth aircraft, and then you can send in your heavy fighter-bombers
          This could only happen in a computer game...
          1. +3
            23 January 2026 10: 55
            Quote: Luminman
            This could only happen in a computer game...

            This "game" was demonstrated in practice in 1991, when stealth aircraft destroyed key components of the air defense system, after which its effectiveness dropped by an order of magnitude, allowing conventional IBA to operate relatively undisturbed.
        2. 0
          23 January 2026 19: 15
          Quote: overland
          The air defense radar simply explodes before the F-15s even arrive, because it was destroyed by the F-35s flying ahead.

          Evil tongues say that Hollywood is very contagious.
      2. Eug
        +3
        22 January 2026 16: 35
        They have a really nasty thing – towed decoy targets. Their combat value hasn't been proven yet, but who knows...
    2. -4
      22 January 2026 08: 22
      It's surprising that Israel doesn't have any pure bombers... although, considering the almost complete lack of serious air defense systems in Lebanon, Syria, Palestine, Iraq, and, more recently, Iran, it would be possible to "ship" much more and cheaper with simple bombers... than the same F-15 I (A)
      1. +4
        22 January 2026 10: 57
        simple bombers

        And there aren't any of them anywhere in the world. The front-line bomber class has sunk into oblivion, just like the attack aircraft.
      2. 0
        22 January 2026 15: 47
        Under S. Hussein, Iraq had Tu-16 and Tu-22.
        1. +2
          22 January 2026 17: 22
          So how did these Tu-16 and Tu-22, as well as the huge number of tanks and all the weapons help S. Hussein?
          1. 0
            23 January 2026 12: 48
            When the runway is damaged and littered with mines, no aircraft will take off there.
    3. -4
      22 January 2026 09: 35
      Quote: pudelartemon
      Period. Everything else is unimportant.

      It's very significant. This is a system that has been tested for years and doesn't have the Fu-35's teething problems. It's better than the Fu-35 in many ways and only differs in its stealth system.
      1. +1
        23 January 2026 20: 56
        Judging by the fact that the F-35 in Israel is used to the fullest extent as a taxi driver would use his work vehicle, they don’t have any particular problems.
    4. -5
      22 January 2026 11: 40
      It delivers twice as many weapons. Period. Everything else is irrelevant.


      Last year's war with Iran demonstrated that air power is no match for the massive use of missiles; missiles deliver at least three times as many resources. Period. Everything else is irrelevant.
  2. +9
    22 January 2026 04: 24
    The F-35I, despite all its capabilities, cannot be considered an efficient aircraft from an economic standpoint. It's more of a drain on the budget than it is on its opponents.

    A strange conclusion. The F-35I kills a well-defended enemy that is taking every measure to avoid being killed, but the opposite. To launch KABs from friendly territory while under the cover of its own air defenses, the F-4 is sufficient; to penetrate deep into enemy territory, bypassing their air defenses, and destroy all elements of their organized air defenses, the F-35I is required. The aircraft is worth its task.
    1. +6
      22 January 2026 04: 40
      Why does the author believe Israel is incapable of producing enough missiles to strike Iran? I believe both sides drew their own conclusions after the 12-day war.
      1. 11+
        22 January 2026 05: 03
        In practice, a typical ballistic missile's warhead has a significant deviation. Long-range ballistic missiles are also very expensive and disposable. It's more cost-effective to deploy the same F15 and F16 missiles with the air-launched Lora ballistic missile (which also hit a bridge in Karabakh) against high-value/hardened targets, and then use KABs to destroy conventional targets. The Jeydam and its Israeli counterparts are priced at approximately $20, the bomb itself at $10, or $30 in total—"cheaper only for free." The Lora ballistic missile, according to various sources, costs between $1 and $5 million.
        Ballistic missiles don't have any particular advantages over airstrikes. Of course, for that, we need to build and train an air force, not resort to air darts...
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        1. +1
          22 January 2026 05: 36
          Quote: Wildcat
          BR has no particular advantage over air strikes.

          Well, if the aviation is weak and unable to complete the task, then there are no other options except ballistic missiles.
          Quote: Wildcat
          Well, of course, for this we need to create and train an Air Force, and not engage in air darts...

          Heh... Training means investing huge amounts of money into creating a target environment at a training ground, studying the enemy's air defense systems, stealing/buying their samples, creating air groups like "Aggressor" and using (oh, the horror!) an expensive missile or bomb for training purposes!
          What if it turns out a strike aircraft can't even jam its own air defense system or disrupt its targeting radar? That means the crew is unprepared, and they'll get a bad grade for failing the training mission! And what if the missile's performance doesn't match the developer's claims? A show-off, "airdarts," is better...
        2. -1
          25 January 2026 08: 41
          BR has no particular advantage over air strikes.

          Uncontrolled technical systems are always much cheaper
          manned, how do drones/unmanned systems avoid human losses...
      2. +5
        22 January 2026 08: 41
        Quote: ASSAD1
        Why does the author believe Israel is incapable of producing enough missiles to strike Iran? I believe both sides drew their own conclusions after the 12-day war.

        And why is the author convinced that the Jewish Armed Forces are “in a systemic crisis”?
      3. -4
        22 January 2026 10: 01
        Because he doesn't produce them at all.
        To produce missiles, there must be a sufficient resource base. Israel has no resource bases; they buy 90% of their weapons from the United States. They don't even produce their own ammunition.
        1. +5
          22 January 2026 11: 02
          Ammunition is produced, as are missiles for small Spike missiles of various modifications, missiles for multiple rocket launchers of various types, the Lora medium-range tactical missile system, and even various modifications of the Jericho ICBM. So, don't write if you don't know.
          1. -2
            22 January 2026 11: 09
            You forgot to mention that Israel also produces drones.
            And what’s more, he is one of the pioneers of their use.
            But they produce all this in quantities that are INSUFFICIENT for Israel's defense capability.
            Because 90% of weapons, as I already indicated, they buy in the USA, including ammunition.
            Even such a limited war with the Hamas bandits critically required supplies of ammunition, bombs, missiles, and even armored vehicles from the United States.
            So, comrade, you get a bad grade for your legal practice.
            1. 0
              22 January 2026 19: 03
              Give yourself a two. Your initial "Because they don't produce them at all" turned into "Well, they produce all of this in quantities THAT INSUFFICIENT for Israel's defense capability." Apparently you Googled it, but okay, you can get a three. laughing
              1. -2
                22 January 2026 19: 09
                Thank you for such a high assessment of my insufficient knowledge.
                In that case, I will change your grade from a two to a three minus for your sufficient knowledge with a formal attitude towards it.
                That is, with the attitude of a crammer to the material being studied
    2. -4
      22 January 2026 05: 45
      Quote: Puncher
      Bypassing its air defenses and destroying all elements of organized air defense, the F-35I is already needed. The aircraft is worth its task.
      No aircraft can bypass a well-organized air defense system, no matter how invisible it is. I repeat, well organized Air defense! The F-35 is undoubtedly a good fighter, but it's simply a fusion of the latest technology. From the air defense system I'm monitoring from my couch, it's very clear that neither our nor Ukrainian aircraft have ever entered the enemy's air defense zone. Neither will the F-35!
      1. 10+
        22 January 2026 05: 58
        Quote: Schneeberg
        Even the F-35 won't go there!

        Is this from the series "if I couldn't do it, then no one can"?
      2. +4
        22 January 2026 06: 24
        Quote: Schneeberg
        I repeat, well-organized air defense!

        Who do you think Israel is arming itself against? The United States? belay
        And the Israeli F-35s will take out the air defenses of their opponents more than once.
        1. -2
          22 January 2026 10: 42
          Quote from tsvetahaki
          And the Israeli F-35s will be able to take out the air defenses of their opponents more than once.
          When did Israeli F-35s ever take out someone's air defenses? Remind me.
          1. 0
            22 January 2026 10: 57
            When Iran's air defense was taken out, for example
          2. -1
            22 January 2026 12: 45
            Quote: Schneeberg
            Quote from tsvetahaki
            And the Israeli F-35s will be able to take out the air defenses of their opponents more than once.
            When did Israeli F-35s ever take out someone's air defenses? Remind me.

            But it's not necessary to destroy all air defenses. It's important to carry out the operation unexpectedly. Like the strikes on the reactors in Iraq, Syria, and Iran.
            1. +1
              22 January 2026 16: 57
              It's important to carry out the operation unexpectedly. As with the strikes on the reactors in Iraq, Syria, and Iran.
              What kind of air defense is this if it can’t repel a surprise attack? wink
      3. +1
        22 January 2026 20: 51
        Quote: Schneeberg
        No aircraft can bypass a well-organized air defense system, no matter how invisible it is.

        A good statement, and most importantly, it is fundamentally irrefutable. laughing After all, if stealth aircraft ever penetrate another air defense system, you can always say that it was simply not well organized, and that's all, and then try to prove that no, it was well organized - there are no criteria for "good organization," you can say whatever you want, even demand a shell for every hectare of territory.
  3. +8
    22 January 2026 04: 47
    Hmm, the price for departure is written and that’s good.
    Now let's take a look at other performance characteristics (max speed, ceiling, number of weapons) and we realize that the F15 as an interceptor/air superiority aircraft has some advantages over the F35, especially against 4th generation aircraft.
    Let's recall which aircraft the F-35 was intended to replace. We understand that its primary function is ground strikes against targets protected by air defenses and fighters.
    So, having the F35, F15, and F16 in the same Air Force is a matter of finding a balance of characteristics for different missions. Especially if they are joined by attack drones, helicopters, and, potentially, cheap "propeller-driven aircraft."
    winked
    It would be especially wonderful if the author found out how Israel's F35 and F15 programs are financed and where the money from the contracts is then invested.
    laughing
    Here again, it's just numbers: for $1 million, a squadron of F-35Is will make 12 two-hour flights and transfer almost 100,000 kg of combat payload to the enemy.
    For the same money, a squadron of F-15EX will make 15 similar flights and deliver 201,000 kg of ammunition.
    That's basically it, down to the last shekel. The F-35I is a great way to scare the enemy and even carry out precision strikes. But when it comes to mass destruction, the F-35I is clearly inferior to the old F-15EX "Igloo."
    To understand "just numbers," we're looking (I'm too lazy) for the legendary drawing the US Air Force dragged to Congress, explaining to "check signers" why the B2 stealth aircraft program was needed.
    Summary: One B2 (2 people) performs the mission of a pair of F117s with tankers, which could be accomplished by several dozen "regular aircraft" - strike aircraft covered by fighters, Wild Weasels, Prowlers, E3s and tankers.
    Summary: Stealth missions against hardened targets are on the rise cheaper and with less risk.
    soldier

    Missiles won't be launched from Israel to Iran. Israel simply doesn't have the staggering numbers Iran can fire. So, yes, planes. In theory, missiles should also be launched from Iran. And they will, I'm sure; Iran has drawn all the necessary conclusions from what happened in the latest skirmish. The only question is effectiveness, but the fact of the matter is that Iran has plenty of effective missiles.
    Ballistic missiles do not fly from Israel to Iran due to the fact that cheaper rather than hit ballistic missiles with a CEP of hundreds of meters, send strike aircraft that more precisely will hit the targets. This simple idea doesn't reach everyone.
    And there is a very serious risk that this time it will not be the top generals who will change several times a week, but the top political leadership of Iran - this is now the main "brake" in the "irreconcilable struggle" with Israel.
    More precisely, it's easier for Iran. It'll take a while for Russian aircraft to fill the Iranian Air Force, and for pilots to learn and master the new technology... In short, this won't take a couple of years, and given the level of training of Israeli military pilots, the Iranians will have to invest a lot to even approach the Israelis' level.
    They have already saturated and mastered it, just like the Venezuelans.
    And to get closer to the level of the Israelis, they need to do it again, as they did under the Shah: buy weapons from the US and get training.
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    P.S. There are already several reviews online on the author's favorite topic—the F35—with conclusions that, in addition to the F35, an air superiority aircraft is needed, as the F35 isn't always effective. A couple of good ideas for a proper F35 criticism can be "borrowed" from there.
    The Poles have been particularly preoccupied with this issue, having (in addition to the F16 and F35) urgently purchased the F50 "counterinsurgency" fighter and are now frantically trying to adapt the Sayd and Amraam to it, killing the "cheap aircraft" concept. As a result, the Poles have finally begun to choose between the F15, Eurofighter, and Rafale. The Rafale is booked for years in advance; the Eurofighter can be ordered and even started, like the Turks with used aircraft; but the Poles have apparently been promised the F15 "brand new and very quickly," and, IMHO, that's what they'll take.
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    1. +1
      22 January 2026 05: 41
      Quote: Wildcat
      IMHO, the Poles will take him.

      From the operational maintenance point of view, it is easier to work with machines using the same type of engine, even if in different quantities.
    2. +2
      22 January 2026 06: 30
      Your comment is very complete without any "hurray-hurray" and all the fools are outside of Russia.
      However, a small addition to
      Ballistic missiles are not flying from Israel to Iran because it is cheaper to send strike aircraft, which will hit targets more accurately, than to hit ballistic missiles with a CEP of hundreds of meters.

      A missile (especially a ballistic one, and even more so a hypersonic one) laughing ) flying over enemy territory cannot (at least for now) detect a change in the situation, retarget, make a decision, or work on a backup target.
      That's why the States love aviation so much...
    3. -4
      22 January 2026 10: 15
      Very impressive quote.
      Ballistic missiles aren't flying from Israel to Iran because it's cheaper to send strike aircraft, which can hit targets more accurately, than to fire ballistic missiles with a CEP of hundreds of meters. This simple idea isn't readily apparent to everyone.

      Of course, such a simple thought could only reach you and a handful of initiates.
      So, under no circumstances and never will a ballistic missile with a CEP of hundreds of meters be able to hit a target the way high-precision American missiles do?
      So it’s impossible to even imagine such ballistic missiles, unlike air-to-air missiles?
      But there are other figures, even if the KVO is "hundreds of meters." Quantity sooner or later beats quality, as happened in the last 12-day war between Israel and Iran.
      And if the CEP is not hundreds of meters, such a quantity will completely undermine the focus on manned aviation.
  4. 0
    22 January 2026 05: 17
    Yes, we're writing about Iran, but what's going on in your mind? I'm thinking of a long-term target here (and not Israel's) for the period after 2030. For example, Turkey, NATO's best ally, will decide to liberate Iran's supposedly formerly occupied territory from occupation by a northern aggressor (just like Iraq and Kuwait were part of the same colonial empire, until one decided to "restore fraternal unity"). And its northern neighbor will be completely scared and won't throw a ton of fire at that country. (Or maybe he'll even sell all the territory beginning with the letter D, like he sold the territory around the Semur River in 2011. And then, of course, diplomatic relations between Israel and Turkey will be restored, because it's better to snatch up poorly maintained property while being friendly. That's when the F-15IAs will be fully needed. And the Patriots will go straight from Israel to Turkey, and not just to country U., as they are now. Our friends overseas are looking far and wide, the golf club our leadership is eager to join...
    1. +3
      22 January 2026 05: 47
      A country starting with the letter A would rather liberate the Iranian-occupied territory known as Iranian Iran, populated by people of the same blood and language, who, judging by recent events, aren't particularly fond of the rule of the ayatollahs, especially in a country where oil is also found. And if the ayatollahs remain in power in Iran, Mr. A., the son of a Politburo member and a KGB general, might well agree to this, and he'll be supported in this by Turkey, Israel, and Uncle Sam. But if the Pahlavi dynasty returns to Iran, Mr. A. won't risk antagonizing the Shah's overseas friends. And in Iran, there's nothing but a high-strung mountain population and a cognac factory, which Mr. A. could easily set up at home, given the favorable climate. Mr. A. has no particular reason to quarrel with his northern neighbor, and he's not exactly a foolproof man.
      1. 0
        22 January 2026 08: 00
        Quote: Nagan
        But what if the Pahlavi dynasty returns to Iran?
        Pahlavi is just Israel's inflated bubble, who supposedly has some authority in Iran. A man who claimed that the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks were Iran's doing and called on the US to bomb Iran is in no position to lead Iran. His only support comes from Iranian émigrés, who, like the crown prince himself, have long since left their homeland and have little idea what's going on there. Even Trump doesn't support him...
        1. +2
          22 January 2026 08: 56
          Quote: Luminman
          Only the Iranian emigration supports him.
          Why then would protesters in Tehran be raising Shah-era flags and shouting "Pahlavi is back!"?
          1. +1
            22 January 2026 17: 59
            Quote: Nagan
            Why then would protesters in Tehran be raising Shah-era flags and shouting "Pahlavi is back!"?
            It all depends on who is filming and what they are paying attention to...
      2. 0
        22 January 2026 16: 20
        Yes, the first will be Iranian A, but the second will be that very same D. Read the constant wild cries of Sardar Jalaloglu (leader of the pro-presidential Democratic Party of country A.) on the topic of "Freedom for D.", and everything will become clear. But some Medvedev should have simply sold all of D. in 2011, why limit himself to 500 square kilometers and 2000 Russian citizens in Samur? That would have been a gee-whiz deal, almost like giving away 175000 (!) square kilometers of Russian territory to "friendly" Norway (remember the name Stoltenberg?) in the same 2011. And then everything would have been simpler: our friends from A., with the help of Israeli F-15 IAs, would have already liberated Rostov-on-Don from the Russian presence. By about 2035.
  5. -5
    22 January 2026 05: 41
    Quote: pudelartemon
    Period. Everything else is unimportant.

    The S-500 or S400 missile will put an end to it. what
    1. -1
      22 January 2026 08: 48
      Unfortunately, the S-500 and S-400 missiles in Ukraine haven't completely eliminated the air threat to Russia. This is something we must fight and resolve by any means necessary. They could wipe out 90 percent of Kyiv, turning it into a regional center, and completely obliterate Lviv, planting an oak grove. soldier
      1. +2
        22 January 2026 11: 39
        Unfortunately, in Ukraine, the S-500 and S-400 did not completely close the air threat to Russia.

        Yes, there is an understanding that "air targets" come in different forms: using the S-300, 400, or 500 to destroy UAVs is a complete disaster... i.e., they cannot completely cover the "sky"
        I hope that very soon "lightweight" air defense missile models will be introduced, lightened not only in size and weight, but also in cost—which is taken from a limited budget...
        The days when people from Rosoboronexport boasted at exhibitions are fading, if they haven't already...
        we need to create something new...
        and "resting on one's laurels" is for bloggers...
  6. -1
    22 January 2026 10: 31
    Yes, everything is much simpler.
    Israel is betting on what works well in THEIR conditions, I emphasize.
    And that they are best off relying on manned aviation, a component that has never let them down in the military theaters of their region.
    They have a first-class piloting school, they can buy planes, but the training of the Israeli ground army cannot be bought in the USA under any circumstances.
    Again, churning out ballistic and cruise missiles like hotcakes requires a resource base, which is very meager in Israel. Meager, including for the mass production of drones. And not only meager, but also very vulnerable, as everything is vulnerable in a small country.
    Therefore, they are placing their bets on manned aviation, which, by all indications, will give way to unmanned aviation in the very near future.
    But they don't think about this in Israel, and in vain.
    The number of missiles, even the least accurate ones Iran had in the last war, proved that they could penetrate even the highest quality air defenses, and the quality of Israeli manned aircraft was not enough to neutralize these attacks.
    The Israeli ground forces are facing enormous problems. It's fortunate for the IDF that it's only facing opponents that are comparable in equipment to bandit groups.
  7. +4
    22 January 2026 11: 12
    Well, maybe some other eateries from the territories of the former Libya and Syria.

    It seems the author is confusing Libya and Lebanon. Getting from Libya to Israel is quite problematic.
    1. +1
      22 January 2026 20: 21
      It seems that the author is confusing Libya and Lebanon.

      Lately he has been confusing a lot of things, being disingenuous, and fantasizing.
  8. -1
    22 January 2026 11: 38
    This is precisely the point about the Air Force's "two-generation" fleet. Instead of a heavy/light pairing, we now need a five-generation/four-generation division. And Russia should have long ago launched the Su-57, without waiting for a non-afterburning supersonic engine.
  9. +3
    22 January 2026 11: 46
    The F-15 is a decent, proven platform. If the enemy's air defenses are weak or nonexistent, there's no point in carrying a few stealth fighters; it'll be more expensive.
  10. +1
    22 January 2026 12: 02
    So many versions...
    Israel uses the F-15 as a bomber. It has a large bomb capacity. That's all.
    When to dump
    many cruise missiles and/or bombs in one flight - F-15
    When the mission is delicate and precise, the F-35 is a stealth fighter-bomber.
    Take out the air defense, drop a bomb from above right into the "hole", kill an important person.
    1. -1
      23 January 2026 19: 22
      Quote: voyaka uh
      When a delicate precision mission - F-35

      How are things with the crows? Have you resolved the issue?
  11. -2
    22 January 2026 12: 50
    Quote: stone
    When Iran's air defense was taken out, for example
    Are you sure this is the work of the F-35? wink
    1. -2
      22 January 2026 14: 40
      And was he actually taken out?
      It is unknown where Israel was in charge of Iran's skies, as if it were home, what the Zionist media were chattering about.
      But in the main place where he was supposed to be in charge, their aviation completely screwed up.
      From the area covered by Iranian air defense, from where Iran began to pound Israel and which the Israeli Air Force was never able to reach
      1. -3
        22 January 2026 16: 53
        And was he actually taken out?
        Where did Israel rule the skies of Iran as if it were its own?
        In the wet fantasies of Zionists and liberals
  12. -1
    22 January 2026 15: 38
    Here again, it's just numbers: for $1 million, a squadron of F-35Is will make 12 two-hour flights and transfer almost 100,000 kg of combat payload to the enemy.

    For the same money, a squadron of F-15EX will make 15 similar flights and deliver 201,000 kg of ammunition.

    Dry statistics.
    By the way, it's strange that the IDF doesn't have any bombers. Not the B-1B, not even the old B-52G.
    The Su-34 has a combat load of 12,000 kg with a combat radius of 1000 km (with a full fuel load - 4000 kg).
  13. 0
    22 January 2026 20: 17
    F-16C/D – 10,000 kg

    Come on, he's never carried so much.
  14. 0
    22 January 2026 20: 30
    In any modern military conflict, the economics and financial aspects of the issue, coupled with expediency, are at the forefront... That's where the F-15 came in...
  15. -1
    23 January 2026 14: 44
    Skomorokhov is lying again.
    Now about the cost.
    The cost of the F-35 for Israel is roughly the same as for the US—that is, $85-87 million.
    Because payment comes from special funds.


    Moving on.
    For almost 10 years now, I've been repeating the words of our military flight physician and physiologist, who has been involved with the Su-57 program from the very beginning and worked with all the test pilot candidates for this aircraft. They state the following: Only 20-30% of existing pilots are capable of flying a fifth-generation aircraft and performing the tasks of a fifth-generation pilot.
    There are many limiting factors, and these are mainly psychophysiological.
    Not health, but brains.
    It is impossible to become a highly qualified pilot-operator of a 5th generation aircraft through drilling and cramming.
    This requires a gamer's brain.
    There are few of them. And training such a pilot isn't quick. At least 10 years and 10 million dollars. Even if a suitable candidate does emerge.
    Young, healthy, physically fit, and even a gamer!
    YES, and he also decided to join the Air Force for 20 years of his most beloved, young life!
    There really are very few of them!

    What's a solution for the regular pilots? Those who are already on staff...
    Those who excel at their tasks and fourth-generation aircraft? Those with experience, including combat experience, and who still have a decade or so left before retirement?
    Their planes have already reached the end of their service life, so what should they do with them?
    So as not to lose pilots, not to lose the potential of the Air Force, not to deprive the country of its defense capability, they continue to make B-plus aircraft.

    This is also a reason and an important one!
    Why are the F-15, Su-30SM, Su-35, Rafale, Typhoon, and Grippen aircraft still in demand and still being produced?
  16. 0
    23 January 2026 19: 19
    But the real question arises: “Why all of a sudden?”, because the situation looks peculiar.
    Rockets are flying from Iran to Israel


    Yes, the crows there also don’t like the F-35, so it’s logical to need to replenish the losses.
  17. 0
    28 January 2026 05: 31
    You can easily find a place to stick one small block with an antenna, which, upon receiving a certain signal, will block certain circuits and turn the plane into a pile of iron

    It seems you haven't heard of network centricity...

    There's no need for a "box with an antenna" there. The plane is tied to American software, the source code for which they don't share with anyone (rumor has it only with Israel and the UK). Without this software, it's impossible to take off. Mission planning is done in it, electronic warfare is configured, target signatures are loaded for radars, and so on. And this software operates on the American network infrastructure. They don't need boxes to turn all of this off.

    Plus, there's the simple matter of consumables supplies. Parts for the F-35 program are manufactured in a dozen countries, and no single country can produce the full range; all supplies are supplied through the Americans. After being disconnected from the supply program, the aircraft might make two or three more sorties and then be grounded.