Watches and the watch industry of Russia

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Watches and the watch industry of Russia

In the material Watches and watch industry of the USSR We've examined the formation and flourishing of the domestic watch industry. Today, we'll discuss the post-Soviet, post-Perestroika period, which continues to this day.

Restructuring


After the collapse of the USSR, a flood of foreign-brand watches of all price ranges entered the country. As a result, the production volume of the entire watch industry in the country simultaneously collapsed. Naturally, this happened not only in Russia, but also in Belarus.




In the early 90s, almost every schoolchild dreamed of a Montana USA watch. Of course, they weren't made in America – first in South Korea (the quality was still quite good back then), and then in China.

During the first years, and perhaps even decades, in the countries of the former USSR, Soviet/Russian watches enjoyed very limited demand – people had not yet had their fill of imports.


Talking watches – in the early 90s, they seemed like a miracle and were every boy's dream, although they were just watches for the visually impaired...

Gradually, in addition to Chinese counterfeits of dubious quality, watches from famous brands began to be imported into Russia. Casio, Citizen, Romanson, Q&Q, and others became popular in the entry-level price range. Naturally, the rapidly emerging class of wealthy and very wealthy individuals led to the emergence of a market for luxury watches – Omega, Breitling, Rolex, and others.


In high school, it seems, in 1994, the author really liked the Casio Pro Trek watch in a magazine he found on the street, which seemed like alien technology (a clipping from that magazine has survived to this day), and a few years later, already during his studies at university, in 1997, the author liked the Vacheron Constantin Overseas watch in some magazine - the price was not indicated, and at that time it was impossible to even imagine that watches of such a cost could exist.

By the time the author could afford the Casio Pro Trek ATC-1000, they had already been discontinued. However, in their place, the somewhat similar Casio G-SHOCK G-9200-1D were purchased, which have seen a lot of use and still function perfectly to this day.



However, we have strayed a bit from the topic.

Oddly enough, the survival of the Soviet/Russian watch industry was largely helped by foreign influences – just as the USSR coveted everything foreign, many in the West and East were interested in products “Made in USSR.”

Perhaps this is why one of Russia's largest watch brands, Vostok, survived. However, Vostok-Komandirskie and Vostok-Amphibia were quite popular not only abroad but also in Russia—people gradually became satiated with foreign goods, and many were drawn to domestic brands.


Modern Vostok watches – "Komandirskie" (Commander's watches). Image courtesy of vostokinc.ru

However, most Soviet brands gradually began to disappear from the market. Apparently, the main problem was maintaining the production of watch movements—what makes a watch truly "domestic." Producing its own watch movement, including the most complex components such as the hairspring and balance, is far from every watchmaker's capability. Even today, there are only a few countries with such manufacturers, and Russia is one of them.

Revival


After the collapse of the USSR and a relatively brief period of fervent worship of all things Western, collectors emerged who collect Soviet watches of various brands. While this trend is primarily focused on watches produced during the Soviet era, the very emergence of such a community generates interest in domestic watches. Thanks to them, modern watchmakers are releasing retro versions inspired by them, creating a kind of "chain reaction" of growing interest.


Restored father's Vostok-Amphibian watch, which was re-luminized (luminescent material on the hands was replaced), the glass was replaced with a new one (the original plexiglass was too badly scratched), and a custom steel bezel was installed.

For a time, sales of many Soviet/Russian watch brands were still supported by stockpiles of movements in warehouses. New watch brands and models, quite interesting in design, even appeared, equipped with Russian, Swiss, or Japanese movements. However, many of these eventually disappeared from the market.


The Aviator watch from Volmax with the Flight 31681 movement

Around the same time, the "Aviator" watch from the company "Volmax" was released, the first information about the Russian fifth-generation fighter Su-57 appeared, and the author even developed a concept for a modified "Aviator" watch in the style of this aircraft.



Watch manufactures have also emerged, creating high-end watches with complex and unique mechanisms.


The "Joker Iron Mask" and "Joker Golden Mask" watches from the Konstantin Chaykin watch manufacturer. Image: chaykin.ru

Gradually the market began to stabilize, and now it is even possible to identify the leaders (according to the author), producing watches entirely (or almost completely) Russian production - now these are the brands "Rocket", "Lightning" and "East".

Brand "Rocket" positions itself as a guaranteed all-Russian watch manufacture, where all components are produced in-house, including the hairspring and balance.


Raketa brand watches. Image: raketa.com

These are not cheap watches, and they are not affordable for everyone, but quality does not come cheap – the Russian watch industry needs to develop into the upper price segments, as status watches enhance the prestige of the entire national watch industry and pull the market along with them.

Another Russian brand that is starting to compete on price with inexpensive entry-level Swiss watches is Molniya brand watchesThis manufacturer's watches are equipped with both domestic hand-wound movements and imported Miyota and Ronda movements.


Molniya brand watch. Image: molnija.shop

Well and of course Vostok brand watches – for the most part, these are fairly simple and unpretentious watches, often not distinguished by high accuracy “out of the box”.

But they have a minimal cost, and their design is simple and repairable, like a UAZ car - most watchmakers in almost any city in Russia can repair and adjust the Vostok watch, and you can even learn how to service and adjust it yourself using videos on the Internet. (if there is such a desire).

As a first watch for a child, a Vostok watch is quite suitable, of course, if children are currently interested in any kind of watches – many do not even know how to use analog dials.

For some, Vostok watches are a hobby and a collector's item. Special editions are produced, and there are craftsmen who can customize these watches to suit the owner's needs.


A Vostok brand watch. Image courtesy of meranom.com

By the way, the Vostok brand watch is included in the Ratnik equipment kit under the index 6E4-1.


Finally, I can also remember Belarusian watches of the "Luch" brand - Of course, formally these are not Russian watches, but still, this is the legacy of the former USSR, our common story.

The Luch company produces watches with their own movements, as well as a wide selection of movements from foreign manufacturers. Their watches are inexpensive, but, according to some acquaintances, they are quite interesting and of fairly high quality. Among the most interesting are the single-hand models.


Luch brand watch. Image: luch.by

Conclusions


Well, the patient is still more alive than dead – the Soviet/Russian watch industry managed to survive the crisis of perestroika and the collapse of the USSR and is ready to move into the future.

Left out of the equation are numerous other Russian brands and watch manufacturers producing watches based on foreign movements. There's nothing wrong with that; there are a huge number of watchmakers worldwide, including those in the high-end segment, that use foreign movements, albeit often with modifications.

There are several stages that can be identified for watch manufacturers:
- complete production of watches abroad according to your technical specifications;
- the use of a foreign basic mechanism in watches produced in one’s own factory;
- use of someone else’s mechanism with modifications or complications;
- production of our own mechanism using a spiral and balance from third-party manufacturers;
- production of our own full-cycle watch mechanism.

Theoretically, any company can take this path—if only they want to. Sometimes, clever marketing and a well-placed vision can yield more than a brand's centuries-old history.
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  1. +5
    24 January 2026 05: 15
    This morning, two publications: the auto and watch industries in Russia.
    In this case, not in detail, but without "and before they couldn't do it, and now it's just a waste of money (at AvtoVAZ).
    Is there mass production of wristwatches in countries that can be considered manufacturers of their own cars?
    USA, Italy, Germany, France...
    1. +6
      24 January 2026 05: 50
      In the USA there are some of the best and top manufacturers, Bulova, Omega - the first things that come to mind.
      China is already raising its head, but prices for high-quality mechanics are not much lower than in Switzerland.
      1. +5
        24 January 2026 11: 15
        "Omega" is supposedly Swiss. I have a Swiss Army Wenger, as well as a knife.
        1. +1
          24 January 2026 15: 57
          Yes, I'm guilty. For some reason, I thought it was an American brand.
      2. 0
        4 February 2026 14: 15
        Soviet mechanical wristwatches (produced by virtually all factories in the RSFSR and BSSR) were extremely reliable, while being quite affordable for the average consumer. They were in no way inferior in reliability to Swiss mechanical watches...

        I still have a wristwatch with an automatic winding mechanism (it wound itself with the movement of your wrist, so you didn't have to wind the winding mechanism on the case). And it had a calendar window built into the dial... Outside of Russia, I think they don't accept this type of watch for repair or restoration. What about in Russia?
        1. 0
          4 May 2026 12: 51
          I had my father's Poljot watch restored. It's automatic, has a date display, 23 jewels, and the inscription "Made in USSR." I'll also try to restore mine. My parents gave me a mechanical watch with an alarm for my 18th birthday; I don't remember the brand. I also have my grandfather's Zenit from the 40s, but they can't get it to start.
      3. 0
        April 21 2026 09: 12
        In the USA, there are some of the best and top manufacturers, Bulova

        It's so-so, because Bulova is owned by Citizen and they no longer manufacture their own calibers; they use Miyota. So, the title of top manufacturer is somewhat undeserved.
    2. +8
      24 January 2026 10: 08
      Quote from Fangaro
      Is there mass production of wristwatches in countries that can be considered manufacturers of their own cars?
      USA, Italy, Germany, France...

      Of course there is.

      The Americans make Rolex and Bulova (these are more or less expensive watches), Timex and Fossil in the affordable segment

      Italians make Panerai, Bulgari, U-Boat, Anonimo, Giuliano Mazzuoli, Locman, D1 Milano, Unimatic, Venezianico and brands like Fendi, Emporio Armani, Breil and five or ten more... they're all in their repertoire.

      Germans - A. Lange & Söhne (Putin's favorite brand), Glashütte Original, as well as brands from the city of Glashütte, such as Nomos Glashütte, Mühle-Glashütte, Union Glashütte; popular mid-price brands include Junghans, Sinn, Laco, Tutima, Archimede, Damasko, Zeppelins, Iron Annie, Braun and Montblanc, as well as sports brands Adidas

      The French make mainly Cartier and cheap mass-market brands.

      The Japanese make unique watches, but they are not the subject of discussion...

      In general, the real premium brands are Switzerland and the Germans, next to the Americans and Rolex (? in my opinion - an expensive trinket, expensive for the poor)
      And all the rest - the Chinese (including the tourbillon for little money, from 500 dollars for this complication) and other French make mass-market products.
      1. 0
        24 January 2026 15: 29
        French YEMA makes watches priced over $2000.
        1. +4
          24 January 2026 16: 04
          This is not true. There is no point in misleading people.
          https://yema.com/it/collections/orologi
          Prices for many watches from this manufacturer start at €249 on the official website. The top-of-the-line tourbillon model, the most expensive, is €12900, one model is €3900, and the others are no more than €2490.
          So it's quite a French mass market.
          1. -2
            24 January 2026 16: 19
            What do you mean it's not true?
            You yourself wrote that there are models for $2000?
            1. +2
              24 January 2026 16: 23
              Quote: Maxim G
              What do you mean it's not true?

              The context of your message is clear - over 2k, not "there are some for 2k."
              They also have some for 12k, but that's no reason to say that they make watches starting from 12k... )))
              Just clarifying
              1. +1
                24 January 2026 16: 25
                Orient doesn't have one. For example.
                This is definitely mass market.
                1. +2
                  24 January 2026 16: 29
                  Orient also makes several models priced at 2k...
                  Examples even in Russia
                  1. +1
                    24 January 2026 16: 36
                    Orient Star is a mass market for 2k.
                    And YEMA for 2k is not mass market.
                    Just look at the design.
                    1. +3
                      24 January 2026 16: 59
                      In general, watches are divided into categories that determine their value and investment appeal, as well as their collectibility:

                      At the top of this pyramid - unique models, priced from half a million rubles, impossible to buy in a store, editions of 2-5 pieces, a waiting list of 2-5 years, and only for very famous collectors... there is no price ceiling there, I read about 12 million greenbacks...

                      Ultra-luxury, the finest watchmaking art Patek Philippe, Vacheron Constantin, Audemars Piguet... That's all. Even Breguet's inclusion on this list is still debated among watch professionals...

                      Simply luxury, it is also called premium - Rolex, Cartier, Omega, IWC, Zenith, Cuervo y Sobrinos and about 20 other brands...

                      Elite (elite is not luxury, ha-ha-ha), high-end (a very controversial name, this is certainly not elite, but ordinary premium) - Tudor, Breitling, TAG Heuer, Longines and about 30 other brands...

                      Fashion - all brands of famous fashion designers... there are already a lot of them...

                      And mass - there is no end to this...Tissot, Seiko, Casio and hundreds of others...

                      So Yema is a typical mass market, but its upper level...
                      Nothing personal, the classification is already outdated...
                      1. +1
                        25 January 2026 07: 01
                        Quote: Vasily_Ostrovsky


                        So Yema is a typical mass market, but its upper level...
                        Nothing personal, the classification is already outdated...

                        Or affordable premium?)
                      2. +2
                        25 January 2026 10: 51
                        Maxim, Yema doesn't treat premium in any way...
                        As much as I'd love to see the Zaporozhets added to the premium car market, I can't fit this watch brand in there either...
                        TAG-Heuer, for example, has watches starting at 1850 euros and is considered elite...
                        There can't be any "premium" for 260-270 euros in principle; a brand starting at prices under 1000 euros is off-limits... Longines starts at 950 euros, and about five years ago, elite experts almost threw it into the mainstream...
                        We always want our watches to be wow...
                        But a personal connection (memories-reminders) is not included in the category of coolness, unfortunately...
                      3. +1
                        25 January 2026 12: 00
                        I have never had YEMA.
                        Casio, Orient, Seiko.
                      4. +2
                        25 January 2026 12: 04
                        Well, I've never heard of this brand, I've never seen it in reviews in 20 years... You've given me new information, thanks for putting a new brand in my head )))
                        I had to study the literature on it)
                      5. +1
                        25 January 2026 12: 11
                        There is also a French brand called Lip.
                      6. +2
                        25 January 2026 12: 12
                        Yeah, I've heard of these funny guys.
                        They're funny, they definitely have an audience.
                      7. +1
                        28 January 2026 18: 36
                        Oh my God...


                        Something about a comment
      2. +2
        25 January 2026 08: 18
        Rolex has never been American. Although an American initially showed up there.
        Yes, and in general, you shouldn’t have written to him about that.
        1. +2
          25 January 2026 11: 04
          Rolex was founded by Germans, and the watch company was registered in London in 1905. It moved to Geneva in 1920 and opened production there. This brand's main clientele is in America and China, which is a medical fact, hence their entire business model, which is geared toward American buyers. and gave them an "American residence permit" among the watchmaking world.

          Some time ago (about 10-15 years) Rolex almost went bankrupt, but China took it out, and now China is confidently on the rise in purchases; in a couple of years it will be a purely Chinese Rolex market with small sales in other regions, that's where everything is heading.
          1. +2
            25 January 2026 11: 13
            Your competence, judging by the comments, surpasses everything. Even reality.
            1. +2
              25 January 2026 11: 15
              Count it however you like, but facts are stubborn things:
              "The company was founded in 1905 by German Hans Wilsdorf and his son-in-law Alfred Davis as Wilsdorf and Davis, which would later become Rolex SA, in London, England.[1] In 1908, Wilsdorf registered the Rolex trademark and opened an office in La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland.[1] Rolex was incorporated on November 15, 1915."
              This is Wikipedia, in this case quite a source

              Ibid:
              Rolex moves to Geneva, the recognized watchmaking capital of the world. Montres Rolex SA is incorporated in Geneva in 1920.
            2. +2
              25 January 2026 12: 06
              Your competence, judging by the comments, surpasses everything. Even reality.
              Let an expert cover the topic of "How Patek Philippe bought movements in Russia"...
              When the specialist gets a little tired of copying Wikipedia, you can ask for a photo, like "For the most formal events I wear my father's "Commander's" boots, although Cuervo y Sobrinos and Patek Philippe are not contraindicated..." Especially insist on a photo of the Patek against the background of a monitor with VO (front, front and back) - it will be a spectacle...
              laughing lol
      3. +1
        25 January 2026 11: 22
        Rolex is in Biel, Switzerland, in the canton of Bern. The old factory on the Bern hill, a white building, and the new, modern one along the road to Solothurn. Bernese, starting with Biel, starts with Rolex, then Langenau, then Rado, then Grenchen, Breitling. Rolexes are the best in the quality-price category.
        1. +1
          25 January 2026 11: 46
          Of course, today this is true.
          Many companies in Switzerland have rebuilt their factories, sometimes keeping the old ones and sometimes completely changing their location.
      4. 0
        April 21 2026 09: 31
        The Americans make Rolex and Bulova (these are more or less expensive watches), Timex and Fossil in the affordable segment

        Watch manufacturers are most often understood as manufactures, i.e., manufacturers that produce watches with their own caliber (movement), developed and manufactured by the same company. Almost all of the companies you mentioned aren't watch manufacturers, but brands; they don't have their own movement production. We also have plenty of brands that buy cheap Miyota and package them in Chinese cases, but this has little to do with watchmaking. Rolex has no connection to the US; it's a Swiss manufacturer. Bulova is owned by Citizen and uses Miyota in watches, well, except for special editions, which may have their original calibers, but again, they're made by other companies in Japan and Switzerland.
  2. +4
    24 January 2026 05: 40
    Well, the patient is still more alive than dead.
    Watchmaking isn't just a mass-market industry. It's also precision engineering, the technology of which can be applied to other fields.
    1. +6
      24 January 2026 10: 24
      Quote: Schneeberg
      Watchmaking isn't just a mass-market industry. It's also precision engineering, the technology of which can be applied to other fields.

      Unfortunately, this opinion is erroneous. The watch industry doesn't buy modern machines; they're extremely expensive, and they're not produced or developed in Russia at all.
      Our machine tool inventory is very old in this regard. Only large defense and aviation manufacturers will buy such machines, and they won't be included in the watch...

      We're not evolving from precision mechanics to watches, but watches are evolving from precision mechanics after the machines are worn out in the production of something else. That's why precision, quality, and all the rest are roughly the same as they were 60 years ago. As for the rest, as we all know, we'll sell the oil and buy...
      So, precision mechanics is not being developed by the watch industry, this industry lives on what it can grab cheaply... and it has no effect on the rest of the industry
      1. +4
        24 January 2026 10: 38
        The watch industry does not buy modern machines
        It's not just about the machines. I don't know if you're familiar with toolmaking, but there are a lot of stamped parts, and it takes a good specialist to make a stamp. The dimensions are tenths of a millimeter.
        1. +4
          24 January 2026 10: 41
          Quote: Schneeberg
          I don't know if you're familiar with tool making,

          To be honest, no, I'm not familiar with it. After the early 90s, my friends at the tool factory were laid off due to the closure of production, and it hasn't resumed to this day...
          In the middle segment, everything was made in China, the rest was brought from Japan, Germany...
          Due to the lack of scale, watchmakers simply do not have the necessary machinery reserves, and what they have is old...
        2. 0
          24 January 2026 17: 25
          Quote: Schneeberg
          but there are a lot of stamped parts here

          It seems convenient to make dies on electrical discharge machines. In today's Russia, there are manufacturers of inexpensive CNC systems for electrical discharge machining. Making a frame and installing guides and drives on it is not a problem.
      2. 0
        24 January 2026 17: 21
        Quote: Vasily_Ostrovsky
        Therefore, the accuracy is about the same as 60 years ago, and the quality, and other things.

        Approximately 60 years ago, several electrical discharge machines for cutting precision dies at a watch factory were manufactured in the USSR. After their installation, several dozen Swiss milling and copying machines were destroyed. The low cost and mass production of dies in the USSR was ensured by the domestic machine tool industry. Under Stalin, when many of its own machines were unavailable, the Soviet watch industry struggled to meet the country's needs and was unable to dump prices on foreign markets.
        1. +3
          24 January 2026 17: 23
          Quote: gsev
          After their installation, several dozen Swiss milling and copying machines were destroyed.

          This is - well, how did you give the taxi driver money and not go... what nonsense...
          1. +1
            24 January 2026 17: 29
            Quote: Vasily_Ostrovsky
            This is - well, how did you give the taxi driver money and not go... what nonsense...

            If one machine produces the same number of parts with higher precision as 20 other machines, why keep them? Just to pay 50 more workers, burn 10 times more electricity, and heat an extra workshop?
            1. 0
              24 January 2026 17: 32
              And were Swiss machines of any use to anyone? Probably, no one cared.
            2. 0
              24 January 2026 21: 22
              Electrical discharge machining does not work on insulating material, unlike a precision milling machine.
              However, in modern mechanics, precision parts made of non-metals, polymers, metals, ceramics, artificial and natural minerals and stones can and should be used.
              Decorative details are also often non-metallic.
              In addition, they produce by-products, for example, for instrument making or individual orders.
              1. 0
                25 January 2026 00: 27
                Quote: ycuce234-san
                Electrical discharge machining does not work on insulating material, unlike a precision milling machine.

                The stamp is usually made of metal. I haven't encountered hard plastic ones.
                1. 0
                  25 January 2026 08: 52
                  Engineering plastics like Torlon can be hard. And wood can be very hard, as we see in watches.
                  And there are plenty of such materials in decor. For example, a watch dial or case can be designed from a slice of a semi-precious natural mineral. The stone only needs to be milled and polished.
                  For unique projects, such as the restoration of the town hall tower clock or a unique instrument, parts will also be made without stamps.
                  1. +1
                    25 January 2026 13: 55
                    Quote: ycuce234-san
                    For unique projects, such as the restoration of the town hall tower clock or a unique instrument, parts will also be made without stamps.

                    I was talking about events some 60 years ago at a Moscow watch factory. There were no millionaires in the USSR; even the elite lived very modestly. Swiss milling and copying machines were purchased so that collective farmers could save up a month or two's earnings to buy a precise and reliable watch. Soviet watches were inferior to Swiss ones in precision and reliability after this, but not by much. Incidentally, you're talking about one-off production. A CNC machine is required for that. Incidentally, some types of knives that require precision cutting are made on electrical discharge machines. Another application is crown manufacturing. In the 1990s, media outlets in elite Russian dental clinics would ask patients, "Do you want domestic implants or overpriced imported ones?" The patient would be treated with the highest level of care, and the implant would be transferred from its original packaging to a used imported one, so that the packaging could be opened before the patient's eyes and all doubts would be dispelled.
                    1. 0
                      25 January 2026 14: 31
                      Old machines are converted into automatic and semiautomatic machines by adding sensors and control systems. CNC machines aren't always built from scratch.
                      1. 0
                        25 January 2026 14: 41
                        Quote: ycuce234-san
                        Old machines are converted into automatic and semi-automatic machines by attaching sensors and control systems to them.

                        The mechanics of modern CNC machines are fundamentally different from those of manually controlled machines. If servo drives are used, they must have ball guides and a helical screw. Milling and boring machines require a tool magazine. Stepper motors can be used instead of servo drives, but productivity will be reduced by a third or a quarter. The cost of a CNC machine, when spread over its lifespan, is very small compared to the wages and space required to house the machine. This was possible in the 1990s, when machine tool manufacturing had the lowest wages and thousands of machine tool designers were thrown into the labor market. In reality, it's easier to design and build a new machine than to convert a general-purpose machine into a CNC machine.
                      2. 0
                        26 January 2026 08: 36
                        Why bother with such nonsense? Replacing an old control system with a new one is one thing. But this...
                        In general, if a machine has been in use and its CNC system is obsolete, it's time to replace the mechanics as well. That's not much of a catch, either. Most of the time.
                      3. 0
                        27 January 2026 03: 25
                        Sometimes machines are custom-made and unique for a specific task. Consequently, their functions are difficult to replace with standard CNC machines. And refurbishing an old machine is cheaper than developing a new, unique CNC machine from scratch.
                      4. 0
                        27 January 2026 15: 03
                        This machine must be initially equipped with electric movement drives.
                      5. 0
                        27 January 2026 23: 38
                        Just look on the internet
                        Modernization of old machines.
                      6. +1
                        28 January 2026 02: 59
                        Yes, what do I need this internet for...
                        You can't even count these machines if you walk 100 meters. This kind of upgrade costs about half the machine itself. And it still causes problems. It only makes sense if you have really good equipment, like high-precision boring machines. You have a really good German, Swiss, or American one. It's still a gem, but I'd like it to be more convenient. And it's hard to find the same ones these days. And throwing them away would be a crime. As for regular milling machines... It's possible, but why bother? In any case, these upgrades are extremely niche. It's one thing to throw out the old CNC machine, maybe replace the drives and servo system, and install a new one. Although, usually, only the CNC is replaced. If the machine was working, it's worn out. Miracles don't happen. By upgrading, we prolong its replacement and create problems for ourselves. It's justified, for example, if the machine performs basic operations that don't require precision—laser, plasma cutting, etc.
                        And usually, it's a three-axis milling machine. Upgrading it? It'll be a dinosaur. No proper tool cooling, no tool change.
  3. +1
    24 January 2026 06: 06
    Quote from Arisaka
    In the USA there are some of the best and top manufacturers, Bulova, Omega - the first things that come to mind.
    China is already raising its head, but prices for high-quality mechanics are not much lower than in Switzerland.


    Thank you!
    I sincerely believed that Omega originated in Switzerland. I don't remember where this belief came from.
    1. +1
      24 January 2026 09: 56
      Quote from Fangaro
      In the USA, there are some of the best and top producers, Bulova,

      Bulova is a bit of a bummer, and they have never been in the top watchmaking class...
      and Omega is actually a Swiss brand... The company was founded in 1848 in the Swiss city of La Chaux-de-Fonds
      Pure Americana—the notorious Rolex. In my opinion, it's rubbish, a rags-to-riches scheme. They slap them on the shelves in the millions, but with such a high production run, it's impossible to make truly elite watches; they're just expensive mass-produced goods.
      1. 0
        24 January 2026 12: 51
        Quote: Vasily_Ostrovsky
        Bulova is a bit of a bummer, and they have never been in the top watchmaking class...

        Well, they weren't exactly top-notch, but I'll argue with the term "crap" when applied to my favorite brand, which I'm still wearing. What's crap? Is it that the brand isn't as well-known? I wouldn't say it's downright crap in terms of materials or quality compared to, say, Omega... but in terms of design, Omega is worse, in my opinion.
        1. +2
          24 January 2026 13: 34
          Perhaps the term "crap" is a bit blunt and intolerant. I'm even willing to take that assessment back; nothing personal was intended. As an excuse, if "high society" is listed, and in watches that's a must, there's no such thing—it's just a watch and that's it...
          There are elite watches (and even those are divided into classes—classics, modern, technologically advanced, electronic, premium materials, and one-off luxury pieces), expensive mass-market watches (like Rolex), and mass-market watches. A brand's age isn't an argument here—many older brands operate in the mid- and mass-market segments, while still producing one or two luxury watch models.
          A watch is, of course, a personal item, and it's obviously stupid to demand that everyone buy only Patek Philippe - it's very expensive, and the editions are small, and they refuse to expand the editions...
          I wear old "Komandirskie" cigarettes with pleasure, but I also enjoy some Cuervo and Sobrinas, it's just that each road has its own way.
          1. +3
            24 January 2026 13: 56
            I agree, it's a matter of taste, but as for quality, I think after a certain price point, everyone's quality is comparable; you can't just measure differences in milliseconds over time. I've thought about the reason for such high prices on some brands myself, and I've come to the conclusion that most of the difference is "for the brand." As for those I enjoy wearing, whether it's for the outdoors or on vacation, I take my G-SHOCK, the one with the "dancing man" that's been around for 28 years, the one I bought with my first contract salary at college. I wasn't planning on it, but I couldn't pass it up. It costs 322 rubles—I remember it back in 1998, before the jump.
            Quote: Vasily_Ostrovsky
            each road is different)
            uniquely hi
            1. +2
              24 January 2026 14: 32
              Quote: Level 2 Advisor
              As for quality, I think after a certain price level, everyone's quality is comparable; you can't just measure the difference in milliseconds over a period of time. I myself thought about the reason for such high prices for some brands and came to the conclusion that most of the difference is still "for the brand."

              Brand, of course, has a significant impact on price. Material does too, although not as significantly.
              For example, some brands cast gold cases - less waste, faster, more technologically advanced.
              Very expensive brands - Patek, for example, doesn't do this.
              Patek forges a gold bar on a machine before cutting the case. This is because melting gold leaves microscopic and fine pores and bubbles, while for luxury watches, the raw material must be completely solid. Forging eliminates all the pores and increases the bar's strength. It's a long, tedious process, but it pays off. And customers appreciate this commitment to quality—I know this firsthand.
              Watches are subject to a lot of stress, especially thin cases, and the lugs can break off...
              That's why people love steel cases, titanium, and carbon...
              White gold is stronger than rose and yellow gold, platinum is even stronger...
              1. 0
                24 January 2026 14: 34
                Quote: Vasily_Ostrovsky
                Patek forges a gold bar on a machine before cutting the case. This is because melting gold leaves microscopic and fine pores and bubbles, while for luxury watches, the raw material must be completely solid. Forging eliminates all the pores and increases the bar's strength. It's a long, tedious process, but it pays off. And customers appreciate this commitment to quality—I know this firsthand.
                Watches are subject to a lot of stress, especially thin cases, and the lugs can break off...
                That's why people love steel cases, titanium, and carbon...
                White gold is stronger than rose and yellow gold, platinum is even stronger...

                I learned some new information, thank you Vasily hi
                1. +1
                  24 January 2026 14: 38
                  Oops... thanks )
                  But this was definitely the case five to seven years ago with Patek, I hope that it continues to be the same, judging by the price ))))
      2. 0
        25 January 2026 08: 23
        The SWISS Rolex is one of the finest engineered watches. And nothing can stop them. They're durable, easy to repair, and extremely accurate.
        1. 0
          25 January 2026 11: 12
          Watches, whose main buyers were increasingly wealthy Americans, were informally called "propiska"—American watches. Their sales in Europe were, as they still are, very small. About 15 years ago, the Chinese began buying them, and for about 10 years, China has been the foundation of Rolex's business model.
          Otherwise, Rolex would have gone bankrupt, China took it out - Rolex is now thriving.
          The company is in Switzerland (Geneva), founded by Germans in 1905 in London and moved to Geneva in 1920, bought a factory and is still located there.
          The term "American watch" has become a fixture among watch experts in the case of Rolex due to its core market, which has sustained Rolex for virtually its entire history. Sales in Europe have historically been modest, and are even lower now, despite rampant advertising.
          1. +1
            25 January 2026 11: 15
            Ndaaa...
            I won't buy a Rolex. Didn't you read that in Fomenko's book, by any chance? Give me some of that stuff. Maybe I'll learn something else, too.
            1. 0
              25 January 2026 11: 22
              You're right, my personal attitude toward this brand is evident in the comments. I don't appreciate this brand, I confess...
              The approximate demand for Rolex watches, according to marketers, is about 2-2,5 million per year, and these are Chinese (approximately 1,5-1,8 million) and about 0,5 million - Americans.
              Rolex sells 0,8-1 million watches per year, again according to market estimates. Officially, Rolex doesn't disclose sales figures, which experts don't like. There are also illegal sales, which add another 1 million, so demand is still higher. That's why Rolex closed its statistics a long time ago, to avoid becoming a mass market for expensive watches.
              1. +1
                25 January 2026 12: 11
                Rolex sells 0,8-1 million watches a year, again according to market estimates. Officially, Rolex doesn't disclose sales figures, which experts don't like... There are also gray market sales, which account for about another 1 million.

                laughing laughing laughing laughing
                There are still about 1 million Rolexes in grey sales there. .... this is probably one of those movements that Patek Philippe did not buy in Russia....
                lol lol
                1. +1
                  25 January 2026 12: 18
                  Quote: Wildcat
                  This is probably one of those movements that Patek Philippe didn't buy in Russia...

                  I don’t even know what mechanisms are there...
                  I've seen Turkish "complete copies" - they clearly don't have the original mechanism, they're obviously crap... I've seen expensive copies - 2-3 thousand dollars, they had both original mechanisms (? ha-ha), and complete crap, basically, different...
                  I've never seen Soviet mechanisms at Rolex, only at Breguet about 10 years ago in the workshop, the master showed it in Zurich... but it's well-finished, with the Soviet hallmark preserved and the Breguet inscription next to it.

                  The craftsmen said that Raketa mechanisms are found in high-end watches from the 90s, they praised them highly and were amazed - they thought that the USSR couldn't make something like this... but they could.
                  1. +1
                    25 January 2026 12: 22
                    Soviet mechanisms I haven't seen it in Rolex, only in Brega about 10 years ago in the workshop, the master showed in Zurich...but it is well finished, with the Soviet hallmark and Breguet's inscription next to it preserved

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                    Come on! wassat
                    I can't laugh anymore!
                    laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
                    Okay, a little gilty pleasure...
                    Will there be a photo of Patek Philippe on the monitor background? Digit, ZG, reverse... That very one, "For the most formal occasions, I wear my father's Commander's watch, although Cuervo y Sobrinos and Patek Philippe are also suitable..."
                    1. 0
                      25 January 2026 12: 27
                      It's true that there's no sin in laughing, so laugh to your heart's content.
                      Poljot 3133 Chronograph Caliber: One of the most famous examples. In the 1990s and early 2000s, the Swiss company Franck Muller purchased approximately 20,000 Poljot 3133 chronograph movements (based on the Swiss Valjoux 7734 caliber, but modified in the USSR). These movements, after final modifications in Switzerland, were installed in luxury models, which later led to a public scandal.

                      another example
                      Poljot 2612 (Signal): An alarm movement, similar to the Swiss A. Schild. Since production of such movements in Switzerland was limited and expensive at the time, Swiss and European brands (such as Revue Thommen) used Russian caliber 2612 for their alarm watch lines.
                      1. 0
                        25 January 2026 12: 31
                        Let's stick with Pateks and the Raketa movement... waiting for details... and photos...
                        wassat laughing lol
                      2. 0
                        26 January 2026 08: 44
                        Did you know that we stole that Poljot caliber, along with all the factory equipment, from Germany after the war? Rightly so, by the way. For a long time, Poljot watches were very good because of the original parts. And then the quality steadily declined. And these were the calibers that Frank Müller used. And he simply (for some of his watches!) bought them from Poljot. Well, simply because it was the caliber he always used. He disassembled it, replaced some components, reassembled and lubricated it. Polished and finished it. It was more profitable for them, considering the price. All that was left of ours was a stamp and that's it. But it was a source of pride, yes. But essentially, it was buying a cheap, semi-finished product for next to nothing and selling a luxury product at a premium.
                      3. 0
                        26 January 2026 14: 13
                        Well, that's true. Capitalism has always worked and will continue to work as a means of maximizing profits; watches are just one example, nothing more... if you can make money, why refuse?
                        They took them apart, engraved the bridges and even changed some of the elements that carried the markings...
                        Whatever comes out comes out...
                        I don't remember which of our factories made unmarked mechanisms specifically for Western customers, but that doesn't change the fact: if the opportunity arose, they did...
                        And by the way, the British company Sekonda was buying up Polets, Raketa, Vostok, and Slava at full tilt... and selling them under its own brands... and the Italians are involved in this... there are so many stories here, a dime a dozen...
                    2. 0
                      25 January 2026 12: 29
                      Quote: Wildcat
                      Will there be a photo of Patek Philippe on the monitor background? Digit, ZG, reverse... That very one,

                      Why do you think I owe you anything?
                      This is so funny, I can't stand it ))))
                      1. +1
                        25 January 2026 12: 35
                        Bravo!

                        You can immediately see the real humble owner of Patek Philippe, who saw Soviet mechanisms in Breguet!
                        Yes, the master in Zurich would not have approved of such photos of Patek. lol

                        P.S. When you're not using Google, Wikipedia, or AI, you write funny stories, even about watches!
                        good
                      2. 0
                        25 January 2026 12: 40
                        Somehow all these jokes don't bother me, they just make me laugh a little bit.
                        You should often communicate not with advertising managers, but with ordinary watchmakers - they will tell you, show you, and sometimes even disassemble your watch for you just for fun )))
                        The Swiss are not like the Germans in this regard, and there's a lot to see and learn in Lugano and Zurich, if you're interested.
                      3. 0
                        25 January 2026 12: 46
                        Well, of course, I whistled about Rolex, I whistled about Patek, I whistled about Breguet in general..., I started wagging about "were purchased by second-tier brands and private labels to create budget mechanical collections".
                        Oh well, it's not scary, it happens to everyone.
                        request
                        Your articles are excellent; even your contemporaries confirm the details! They're extremely interesting for the "living history" genre (though I admit, they're not my cup of tea), but the literary aspect could use some improvement.
                        good
                      4. 0
                        25 January 2026 15: 07
                        It's all funny)
                        But it's not always appropriate to be sarcastic... although I even enjoy watching it )))
                        About the hourly matters...
                        Anything that involves attacking the honor of brands is always based on rumors, and brands always stand firm and deny it even when caught red-handed...
                        When, in the 90s, huge quantities of watch movements were smuggled into the West using customs codes, no one raised a peep. It was only after internal disputes within Western watch companies that the installation of Soviet movements and Swiss watches came to light. Frank Müller was the one who suffered the most; the others escaped with only minor injuries.

                        And among watch lovers, already in the late 90s and early 2000s, colorful stories about this were circulating, and from participants in these sales )))

                        So what I told you isn't such a fairy tale, I'm just too lazy to bother now double-checking what every average person knew 20 years ago...
                      5. -1
                        25 January 2026 12: 43
                        Quote: Wildcat
                        You write funny stories, even about watches!


                        As they say in Russian fairy tales:
                        A fairy tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it, a lesson for good fellows )))
                        Here's an idea to write about watches - thanks, there's something interesting to say, you've stumped me. Maybe I'll take a chance )))
                      6. 0
                        25 January 2026 15: 38
                        Quote: Wildcat
                        P.S. When you're not using Google, Wikipedia, or AI, you write funny stories, even about watches!

                        What's unclear here is: using all this—improves what? It's interesting...
                        So far, the AI ​​hasn't written anything for me, unfortunately or fortunately - time will tell )))

                        If you participate in global luxury goods exhibitions, and not as a spectator, then you learn a lot from the lips of first- and second-hand people... and it never comes out into the public domain, only as rumors... or by agreement with the author of the information )))
                        So some rumors can be taken very seriously, including in watchmaking.
                  2. 0
                    25 January 2026 12: 35
                    And another example
                    The Raketa 2609 and other "workhorses": Movements from the Petrodvorets Watch Factory (PChZ) were purchased by second-tier brands and private labels to create budget mechanical collections. The Fortis brand made similar purchases.
                    These stories are well-known; some were even investigated in Switzerland in the 2000s; there were even scandals in 2018.

                    So, everyone wants to make money.
    2. +2
      24 January 2026 09: 59
      Quote from Fangaro
      I honestly thought Omega came from Switzerland.

      And you're right: it was founded in Switzerland, and in 1894, the 19-ligne caliber was created, which was named OMEGA after the last letter of the Greek alphabet. Subsequently, the Brandt brothers decided to rename the company, which was originally called "Louis Brandt & Fills." (Wiki)
    3. 0
      25 January 2026 11: 26
      Quote from Fangaro
      I sincerely believed that Omega originated in Switzerland. I don't remember where this belief came from.

      You were right: Omega is in Biel, Canton of Bern, Switzerland. Not far from the Rolex factory. Rado and Breitling are also nearby.
    4. 0
      27 January 2026 15: 04
      Don't thank me. This alone proves you know far more about Swiss watches than our educator.
  4. 0
    24 January 2026 06: 12
    Quote: Schneeberg
    Well, the patient is still more alive than dead.
    Watchmaking isn't just a mass-market industry. It's also precision engineering, the technology of which can be applied to other fields.


    Do you think there will be dozens of new commentators who will write that now there is AI, all the technologies are already known, and all we need to do is quickly and easily become leaders?
    Or will the majority continue to believe that the brain, hands, conscience and curiosity of each of us are more important?
  5. +1
    24 January 2026 06: 12
    The Soviet/Russian watch industry managed to survive the crisis of perestroika and the collapse of the USSR and is ready to move into the future.

    I wouldn't be so optimistic. People will start buying expensive Russian-made watches when our leadership stops buying $60,000 watches, and our privately owned watch industry doesn't know how to make cheap ones with a seal of quality.
    stop The Montana watch I bought in 1990 kept perfect time until I left it on the beach in 1998...
    Do many citizens today use watches or hold smartphones in their hands to look like everyone else who is “advanced”?
    1. +3
      24 January 2026 09: 48
      *Our watch industry, handed over to private hands, doesn't know how to make cheap watches with a quality mark.*

      Exactly. Chistopol, which used to produce reliable "commander" rifles, is now producing substandard quality.
      I bought a pair of *Komandirskie* in Yaroslavl in 2012. Three repairs, and the mechanic said the mechanism wasn't Chinese. On the fourth try, he unwound them and threw them out of the stern.
      I bought an amphibious toy from the same manufacturer as a gift. Of course, it broke.
      I ended up buying a Q&Q and forgot about the problems. And as a gift, I bought Skmei instead of the amphibious one, and they work fine.
      1. +3
        24 January 2026 09: 56
        Quote from seamen2
        I ended up buying Q&Q and forgot about my problems.

        And for my anniversary they gave me a certificate, and I bought myself a Casio.
        1. +6
          24 January 2026 09: 57
          Yes, Casio is reliable and laconic.
          1. Alf
            +2
            24 January 2026 19: 49
            Quote from seamen2
            Yes, Casio is reliable and laconic.

            I wear a Casio, albeit an electronic one. I bought the DB-36 model in 2003, proudly boasting a 10-year battery life. I immediately turned off the beeping sound (because I don't need it at home, and I can't hear it at work) and don't use the backlight. As a result, I still haven't changed the battery.
      2. PC
        +2
        24 January 2026 14: 47
        In 2018 I bought "Komandirskie" and to this day I have had no problems.
        1. +2
          24 January 2026 14: 51
          *I bought "Komandirskie" in 2018, and have had no problems to date.*

          I was lucky. I bought *command* ones, I bought amphibious ones, I bought *navy* ones -- they all broke.
          What can I say when the store immediately pays attention to the warranty? I was surprised—it was a new watch.
          and only then did I understand why.
          *This experience is the son of difficult mistakes*. I have no desire to play the lottery with this plant anymore.
    2. +4
      24 January 2026 09: 49
      Quote: ROSS 42
      When will our management stop buying $60,000 watches?

      Russians are already buying them for that price... Some examples were even more expensive...
      1. +9
        24 January 2026 18: 13
        During my military service, it was considered a badge of honor among my fellow soldiers to have heavy, multicolored, automatic Orient "bricks" with a perpetual calendar. However, our company commander made us take them off during "outings": "There's no point in carrying extra weight on your wrist, and they're terribly reflective—you'll expose yourself and everyone else. Put them away until you're discharged." I'm still grateful to him for the fact that when I had the opportunity to buy a decent watch, he took the trouble to personally walk me through a bunch of watch shops, advising me on what to choose. Ultimately, we settled on a discreet, lightweight, and thin, mechanical, purely Japanese "ORIENT" with an automatic winding movement in a titanium case. Although expensive, the choice was a great one—I wore it constantly, without any repairs, until 2010. I used it on duty, at home, and in the bathhouse. And even though 45 years have passed since I bought it, and due to my age and health, I'm now forced to use a HUAWEI smartwatch every day, that same ORIENT is still alive, not a single scratch on the bracelet or case, and it's still running perfectly. I periodically dust it, change the date, and shake the pendulum to wind it.
        1. +6
          24 January 2026 18: 18
          Many people brought Orient from Afghanistan, and also bought Seiko...
          1. +2
            24 January 2026 18: 27
            The price of a Seiko automatic wasn't affordable for everyone there. It was a more "officer's" option, while the Orient was more "affordable."
            Good afternoon, Vasily.
            1. +7
              24 January 2026 18: 37
              Good afternoon, Dmitry.
              I'm talking about officers... We had one "eternal captain" Nikolai, he came back from Afghanistan all put together like spare parts, his head sometimes ached terribly, so he drank like crazy, but they forgave him... He always carried a wind-up Seiko, he said - that's all he earned...
              He was holding out until retirement age, with the last of his strength, I really hope that he is alive...
  6. +5
    24 January 2026 09: 38
    Everyone buys a watch to suit themselves. It's a matter of personal preference. If you have the money for an Omega, buy it and wear it to your heart's content. Personally, I remember my first Ray fondly. A simple, beautiful watch, a gift from my grandfather. My current watch is a Record Classic, a gift from my wife for my graduation. I've been wearing it for almost 30 years and am very happy with it. A watch isn't just a mechanism, it's also a memory... No smartwatch can replace a classic one... Thanks to the author for the article.
  7. +7
    24 January 2026 09: 44
    In 85, my father bought me a commander's Vostok watch at a military store in Moscow and gave it to me as a gift!
    1. +6
      24 January 2026 11: 21
      Quote: mc1aren
      In 85, my father was in a military store in Moscow.

      And then I bought the same ones at the military store - they served for a long time, then I gave them to my son...

      I've been wearing Orient at the car factory for 25 years now - at sea, in the pool - no problems...
      1. +1
        24 January 2026 11: 59
        The guidelines were as follows, but 7 years ago the plant died...
        1. +1
          24 January 2026 16: 01
          And did you take it for re-passage every 2 years?
      2. +2
        24 January 2026 16: 36
        I also have an Orient at home, bought in Finland in the 90s...
        They're still ticking ))) They even survived auto repairs, but the glass is only mineral, it got dull and scratched
        1. +2
          24 January 2026 21: 58
          the glass is only mineral, it has become dull and scratched

          The main thing is there are no cracks. Otherwise, use GOI #2 coat cloth, two to three hours of patience, and the result is guaranteed. It's not sapphire crystal, which, despite all its advantages—more transparent and harder—is also more fragile under strong impacts.
          1. +2
            24 January 2026 22: 02
            Thank you, but for now let it be as it is - an artifact, a memento... history)
          2. +1
            28 January 2026 19: 28
            I smashed the sapphire crystal on my Casio watches against the corner of a safe with all my might, and my hand slipped while stripping the cable. I thought my wrist was broken and forgot about the watch. But it all worked out. There's a bruise on my hand, a diagonal groove in the watch case, and the crystal is like new. I used to throw them on the rocks at the beach on a bet: if they broke, I'd finally replace them. They're still working, 15 years on, I just change the batteries occasionally.
  8. +9
    24 January 2026 09: 47
    Damn you, Andrey Mitrofanov... The morning started out so nice and lazy - and suddenly a publication about watches... Thanks for the gift!
    Well, the patient is still more alive than dead – the Soviet/Russian watch industry managed to survive the crisis of perestroika and the collapse of the USSR and is ready to move into the future.

    Left out of the equation are numerous other Russian brands and watch manufacturers producing watches based on foreign movements. There's nothing wrong with that; there are a huge number of watchmakers worldwide, including those in the high-end segment, that use foreign movements, albeit often with modifications.


    The patient is definitely alive! With creaking, toil, and quirks, the watch industry survives, despite the glut of inexpensive imported watches and the notorious Chinese, even with their $500 tourbillon (the watches themselves are worth about 1000 green faces on paper).

    Perhaps the only thing that's lacking is the design, especially in the mid-price segment... It's a bit "wooden," but this is more likely a limitation of the machinery and the specific school of case and dial design.
    And the sore point is that the work on tuning the mechanisms, bringing them to the highest levels, is going very hard... They are rather crude, in my opinion, and are far behind the world level.
    But this can be overcome, you just need money, money and more money!

    I couldn't keep the "Victory" watch, so I wear my father's "Commander's" watch for the most special occasions, although Cuervo y Sobrinos and Patek Philippe are also suitable...
    I was very impressed by the watches from the Uglich Watch Factory (UWF), especially the design and quality of the cases and the finishing of the movements, although they don't make their own movements, but use Miyota and Ronda, and even Chinese ones.
    I bought a UZCH watch before it was officially released, it's just amazing...
    1. 0
      28 January 2026 19: 32
      It's somewhat reminiscent of the dashboard design on the Rover 75))
      1. 0
        28 January 2026 20: 01
        Quote: Jager
        It's somewhat reminiscent of the dashboard design on the Rover 75))

        I thought the same at first, the Rover and Jaguar have similar dashboards )))
        But this is a model of the stadium! With stands, cool!
        And the most important thing is that the wood used inside is from the field, real wood )))
        It looks great both on the hand and from the side, very unique, and eye-catching.
  9. +1
    24 January 2026 10: 54
    I gave up on wristwatches a long time ago. If you carry a cell phone or smartphone in your pocket, what's the point of a wristwatch? It's an acquired taste.
    1. +3
      24 January 2026 10: 59
      *This product is not for everyone.*

      Exactly. I thought so too at first:
      *If you carry a mobile phone or smartphone in your pocket, what's the point of a wristwatch?*
      Then I finally returned to the wristwatch. It's more convenient than taking a smartphone out of my pocket.
      Inexpensive, practical, reliable.
      1. 0
        24 January 2026 11: 31
        The next stage of technological progress saw a return to pocket watches, albeit in a different form.
        1. +2
          24 January 2026 13: 02
          but, unlike the classic pocket watch, this new shape is quite inconvenient.
          although everyone chooses what suits them personally.
          and as it turns out, wristwatches have a right to exist again.
    2. +4
      24 January 2026 12: 54
      Quote: hermit
      I gave up on wristwatches a long time ago. If you carry a cell phone or smartphone in your pocket, what's the point of a wristwatch? It's an acquired taste.

      Well, then you don't need a flashlight or a calculator in life, and you can even swim in the sea with a phone... not to mention the completely unnecessary gold jewelry if the phone has a gold case, right? laughing
    3. 0
      28 January 2026 19: 32
      I never check the time on my smartphone. Especially when I'm on business trips. I once almost missed my train, but my smartphone automatically reset the time, even though the departure time was Moscow time.
  10. +2
    24 January 2026 12: 13
    Quote: hermit
    If you carry a mobile phone or smartphone in your pocket, what's the point of a wristwatch?

    In the pool or steam room, in which pocket do you carry your mobile phone or smartphone?
    1. 0
      24 January 2026 22: 32
      I don't go to the pool or the steam room. In the summer, I swim in open water, but I don't wear a watch.
    2. +2
      25 January 2026 16: 09
      Quote: LuZappa
      Quote: hermit
      If you carry a mobile phone or smartphone in your pocket, what's the point of a wristwatch?

      In the pool or steam room, in which pocket do you carry your mobile phone or smartphone?

      Why wear it to the steam room?
    3. +1
      28 January 2026 09: 39
      In fact, I wouldn’t even take a watch to the steam room, the pool, or the sea.
      The same sea salt really likes to eat rubber moisture protection gaskets.
      And high humidity and temperature fluctuations in the sauna are clearly not beneficial for the mechanism.
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    0
    24 January 2026 12: 30
    As a child, I had a ton of catalogs lying around the house, from the 70s to the late 80s: Otto, Neckerman, and, of course, the British Argos (a marketplace from the past). So, in Britain, they sold watches under the Seconda brand, and I think they still exist. So, they were carbon copies of our Poljot models, which were available in every department store back then. And I always wondered: was this our export, or their import, or was someone simply copying someone else?
    1. +1
      25 January 2026 08: 27
      Second-hand watches are our export watches. They were.
  12. -1
    24 January 2026 15: 23
    The attitude towards Switzerland...
    1. 0
      24 January 2026 15: 32
      I've worn dozens of fakes on my hand...
      1. +2
        24 January 2026 16: 14
        You shouldn't buy fakes at all, it's like stealing and lying...

        A friend showed me a Rolex he bought in Turkey—an exact replica, $300. He's absolutely thrilled.

        I ask him, "Are you happy that it's a fake?" No. Why? That others think it's the real deal for 10. So, happy because of the deception and lies? He kind of moaned and took it off his hand...

        I had to show him the difference between a fake "like the original" and the genuine...
        Well, and simple: where would even a top manager of a small Western company get it? extra 10 thousand euros?
        That's why people who buy originals, seeing the same goods from someone who earns significantly less, laugh at such "bearers of eternal values"...
        1. 0
          24 January 2026 16: 20
          Well, after opening the lid, it’s not clear?
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        2. +1
          25 January 2026 11: 35
          A standard Rolex costs around $5000. What's interesting is that limited edition Rolexes start at around $15000. Even more interesting is that to get one at the starting price, you have to sign up for a waiting list, and you're unlikely to get more than one. This is because demand exceeds supply, and such watches are usually not worn but kept in a safe as an investment.
          1. +1
            25 January 2026 11: 41
            Quote: karabas-barabas
            What's even more interesting is that in order for Rolex to sell them to you at the starting price, you have to sign up for a waiting list, and you're unlikely to get more than one copy.

            An excellent marketing strategy for increasing demand, don't you agree?
            But such marketing ploys are used specifically in the mass market, so Rolex balances on the edge of decency in the watch world, which is why it gets the brunt of the criticism from experts (I'm not an expert, just in case).

            Never in the last 30 years have I seen advertising for Patek, Vacheron Constantin, or Breguet on street banners or on TV abroad... this is the watch elite, and it is kept within the limits that truly elite watches cannot be mass-produced...
            1. +2
              25 January 2026 11: 46
              But they built a new, fairly large factory on the outskirts of Biel, so it's working. I know someone who buys limited-edition Rolexes by any means necessary, putting his friends, godfather, matchmaker, son-in-law, aunt, and so on on the waiting list. Then he puts it on eBay and immediately finds a buyer in Germany for a couple thousand more. Then, at the border, you're sitting on your ass with 50-70 thousand rubles, wondering how they'll ask you to get out of the car.
              1. 0
                25 January 2026 12: 01
                This is a real detective story )))
                That's right... I once imported my watch from abroad, the watch was on my wrist, the box went another time six months later in a suitcase...
                As a business, I heard and saw it, it was very funny - the guys get caught, get nervous, blush, push here and there)))
                You have to have nerves here... or not.
          2. 0
            26 January 2026 08: 48
            That's how much a Rolex cost 25 years ago. Now, Oysters from 10 and up... A ton.
  13. -1
    24 January 2026 15: 36
    expensive and lower quality than the same Chinese
    1. +2
      24 January 2026 16: 21
      Quote: Graz
      expensive and lower quality than the same Chinese

      It's somehow not serious...
      What's expensive and what's of lower quality, what's "Chinese"... that is, it doesn't mean anything... it doesn't look good on a watch...
      China makes good watches, but there are no historical brands left there...
      They even make watches with a tourbillon, with prices starting at $900, which is basically impossible in Europe (a tourbillon immediately increases the price by 5-10 thousand, depending on the manufacturer). And no one in Europe just installs a tourbillon—only in very premium watches. And they're right to do so; this complication is pointless for modern timekeeping; such precision is achieved for next to nothing. The mechanism itself, open to public view, is of interest only to collectors.
      And in China there are millions of consumers who want this in millions of copies, and can pay for it - hence the cheap tourbillon...
  14. 0
    24 January 2026 17: 10
    A very strange and superficial article. It's about an industry without a single figure for volume, dynamics, or anything. Not a single characteristic that watchmakers and mechanics strive for. The global industry is developing, albeit slowly, with very interesting developments. The unique, fascinating history of the Petrodvorets Watch Factory, now the Raketa Factory, is fully reflected in it. It reflects the history of the domestic industry in its entirety. There are a ton of materials, and everything is so drab as it is.
    1. +3
      24 January 2026 17: 18
      Patek bought Raketa movements en masse in the 90s, modified them, and installed them in its watches. I don't remember the caliber, but it was especially popular.
      Other great Swiss did the same.
      There was a good review of Raketa; they're great, of course, but the government doesn't allow them to develop on a large scale; they don't need them at all...
      1. +4
        24 January 2026 17: 36
        Regarding Raketa, British watchmaker David Henderson-Stewart has long lived in Russia. Together with a group of Western investors, he has undertaken the revival of the Raketa watch factory in Peterhof. The strategy is "we're not changing anything. The factory is 300 years old, having survived wars, revolutions, perestroika, the 1990s, and COVID." There are just over 100 employees and fewer than 10,000 watches produced annually. The focus is on very expensive watches with the highest specifications (among mechanical watches). In short, everything here is very interesting: technology, characteristics, development paths, marketing and markets, people, and history.
        There are no domestic watchmakers. All that's left are case designers. Incidentally, this is the case everywhere else in the world. There remains a small number of super companies and teams that don't just design—they create exceptionally unique movements. The intricacies of their work deserve a separate article.
        I just couldn't resist - the article in question is on par with Murzilka.
        1. +1
          25 January 2026 16: 14
          Quote: balabol
          Regarding Raketa, British watchmaker David Henderson-Stewart has long lived in Russia. Together with a group of Western investors, he has undertaken the revival of the Raketa watch factory in Peterhof. The strategy is "we're not changing anything. The factory is 300 years old, having survived wars, revolutions, perestroika, the 1990s, and COVID." There are just over 100 employees and fewer than 10,000 watches produced annually. The focus is on very expensive watches with the highest specifications (among mechanical watches). In short, everything here is very interesting: technology, characteristics, development paths, marketing and markets, people, and history.
          There are no domestic watchmakers. All that's left are case designers. Incidentally, this is the case everywhere else in the world. There remains a small number of super companies and teams that don't just design—they create exceptionally unique movements. The intricacies of their work deserve a separate article.
          I just couldn't resist - the article in question is on par with Murzilka.

          This year marks the 70th anniversary of the Raketa factory, a renowned St. Petersburg watch manufacturer. These watches were exported to 33 countries during the Soviet era. The company is currently recovering from the COVID-19 pandemic, albeit with difficulty, as the brand was supported by Chinese businesses and tourists, who temporarily stopped coming to Peterhof. What is happening in this anniversary year, or will happen?

          Competed with the "Swiss"
          The Petrodvorets Watch Factory "Raketa" is one of the oldest in our country, not only in terms of watches, founded in 1721. At that time, it belonged to the Peterhof Lapidary Factory. This refers to the cutting of stones. Specifically, the factory began producing watches called "Raketa," "Zvezda," and "Pobeda" in 1955, 70 years ago. A few years later, nine more factories were created in the USSR under this brand. The first was the TTK-1 Petrodvorets Watch Factory. What primarily distinguished its products? Wristwatches bearing the "Raketa" name were made not only for civilians, but also for the military, submariners, cosmonauts, and polar explorers. This isn't the story of the old Soviet joke about watches: "How many stones do you have? - 16! - Are two missing? - Why? - Put one on top, and slap the other one on!" No, Raketa watches were a sign of quality, which is why they were sold to intelligence agencies. They were also highly regarded abroad, and not just in "friendly countries." In the 1970s, they were quite competitive with Swiss watches, and that's saying something. They weren't exactly churned out in those days—around five million pieces were produced annually, which isn't much, but it boosted the brand's market capitalization and value due to its exclusivity. But then came the 1990s. The factory survived largely thanks to its enthusiastic director, Oleg Tychkin, who had taken over back in the 1960s. He was genuinely passionate about watchmaking and pulled the factory through those turbulent times by the skin of his teeth. Yes, he rented out many of the premises, but what else could he do? He died in 2000. Wikipedia, for some reason, claims that the Raketa watch factory closed after that, but that's not true at all. It downsized. I moved to the building's basement and reduced staff as much as possible. But I retained what was most important—the unique technology.

          The brand is supported by the Chinese
          And now, let's get back to the present. There's the Raketa shopping center on Sankt-Peterburgskoe Shosse, a historic factory building between Peterhof and Lomonosov. Yes, the space there is rented out for all sorts of clothes, but in the basement, there's a watch factory. There are also two showrooms where various Raketa watch models are displayed and sold, including retro versions. Stylish ones. A Nasha Versiya correspondent, who lives nearby, learned how our Chinese comrades are helping Raketa. It's important to understand that the Chinese are quite expansive and adore brands, especially Soviet ones. Raketa watches are on their shortlist. Moreover, Peterhof, before COVID-19, was a must-see for Chinese tourists, as the famous Peter the Great fountains are an absolute must-see. As the saleswomen at the Raketa store secretly told the world, several Chinese entrepreneurs invested in the production, luring their fellow Chinese tourists into the showrooms. The prices, it must be said, weren't steep, starting at 60,000 rubles, but it was a Soviet brand! Besides, you have to understand the Chinese mentality—they're willing to pay not just for the brand name, but for their own people, so that the money doesn't disappear from their national circulation. This is part of their patriotic upbringing. That's why they practically view Raketa as their own fiefdom. I heard that, as communist adherents, they're somewhat uneasy that Rostislav Romanov, a descendant of the royal dynasty, sits on the board of directors, but COVID-19 has proven far more terrifying for guests from China.

          "We preserved the Soviet technological process"
          Before the coronavirus, Peterhof was packed with Chinese tourists. Their somewhat peculiar behavior made locals feel a certain discomfort. But then came the quarantine. Three Chinese restaurants closed (and haven't reopened yet), but Raketa survived. And yet, it survived. Of course, sales were practically nonexistent; they were busy repairing existing watches, not just their own branded ones, but regular ones as well. But now, things are returning to normal. Financially secure Chinese tourists have also returned, not yet at pre-COVID levels, but they're sure to be. Especially since Raketa is celebrating an anniversary. Management is keeping it under wraps, but inside information has leaked that they're working on special anniversary models of the branded watches, priced from approximately 120 rubles. The saleswomen call the Chinese tourists who buy the branded watches "rocket bearers" in military fashion. It's a joke.

          Few people know, but British funds were also invested in the Raketa plant. Media outlets at the time reported:

          "There was an expat with Russian roots, David Henderson-Stewart (his genealogy goes back to the Counts Pahlen, one of whom attempted to assassinate Paul I). Together with his partner, Jacques von Polier (who is descended from the Counts Shuvalov), he was inspired by the idea of ​​reviving a watchmaking company: "I came to Russia in 1997 as a lawyer, but I liked the idea of ​​relaunching a Soviet brand, of which there were many here. I had no idea about the watchmaking business until friends suggested that I revive a watchmaking company near St. Petersburg. Producing mechanical watches is very complex, painstaking, high-precision work, like launching a rocket into space. I had to figure out how all these machines work, how watches are built in general. We bought the Raketa factory in Peterhof in 2010 and inherited professional craftsmen and an excellent technical base. At first, we thought producing watches the old-fashioned way wasn't viable—we tried introducing expensive CNC technology and inviting foreign specialists. But then we abandoned all that and completely preserved the Soviet technological process. Only this way, by hand, can we create an emotional, high-quality product. All the shareholders are my circle of friends, family, and acquaintances, not large foundations or banks. For me, this isn't a business, but rather a conversation about history, beauty, and craftsmanship. I'll never get rich with Raketa, although the business is growing successfully. In 10-12 years, we've relaunched the brand: previously, it was souvenir watches for a couple of thousand rubles, which foreigners bought in shops on Nevsky Prospekt, and now we have manufactured watches for 85-90 thousand rubles. In Switzerland, you won't find a watch with a manufactured caliber for that kind of money. Raketa is sold in 60 countries worldwide, including France, Switzerland, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and India. The demand is very high, and our production capacity cannot yet cope with it.”

          Stewart has now stepped back somewhat, leaving the Chinese to take over. They will be celebrating Raketa's anniversary; the main ceremonial, presentation, and sales events are planned for May and throughout the summer, through September of this year. There is also unverified information that the Raketa factory may rebrand the Komandirskie (Vostok) watches, which are also recognizable in China, but this is not yet certain.

          Source: https://versia.ru/kak-zavod-raketa-spassya-za-schet-anglijskix-yekspatov-a-sejchas-zavisit-ot-kitajskix-turistov
        2. 0
          28 January 2026 19: 38
          Good article. I'm not really into all this watch stuff, so I liked it.
      2. 0
        25 January 2026 11: 22
        Is the government preventing Raketa from developing?
        Putin has a Raketa. Following the president's example, many dignitaries have bought themselves Raketas. And the ones that don't cost 100 rubles. I don't see any such support from AvtoVAZ.
        1. 0
          25 January 2026 11: 31
          Quote: MCmaximus
          Is the government preventing Raketa from developing?
          Putin has a Raketa. Following the president's example, many noblemen have bought themselves Raketas. And the ones that don't cost 100 rubles.

          Look at the timeline—when our president started wearing the Raketa. The president's watch collection included German and Swiss watches. As the administration explained, the state purchases watches for the head of state, and they remain on the administration's books. There's no official information about which watches belong to him personally, other than a reference to his father's watch.
          The only money the watch factory in Russia makes is through mass sales, and unfortunately, they're not very high. Raketa's owners have even said this at watch conferences...
          There are custom watches made in this country, and Chaykin and other watchmakers make good ones, but they're one-offs and very expensive. You can't build any industry with that approach, you know.
          It's simply amazing that Raketa, Vostok, and the others are holding on, and that's only on government contracts...
          If only we could have a fashion for our own products – then watchmakers would have money, their machine tools would be updated, and quality and design would improve...
          1. 0
            25 January 2026 17: 52
            You've rightly started talking about production, volumes, market segmentation, pricing, and revenue. These are precisely the issues that should have been covered in an article with such a title.
            Production in units and prices, past and present. Production prospects and specifics. Market shares of various manufacturers and their development strategies. Device parameters and specifications that engineers are competing for.
            To do this, you need to be in the subject, and not just write on topics you understand.
            And finally, I believe that mechanical watches are purely a fashion statement these days. A respectable man should have a mechanical watch appropriate for the occasion. But personally, I prefer plastic smartwatches.
            1. 0
              25 January 2026 18: 28
              That's exactly what I'm talking about, I agree...
              I'm thinking about writing about the global watch market, maybe I'll get around to it... but I'm not an expert, just an ordinary amateur with my own preferences and tastes, and I need to publish cold material.

              Quote: balabol
              To do this, you need to be in the subject, and not just write on topics you understand.

              yeah... love watches even more )))

              Quote: balabol
              I believe that in the modern era, mechanics is purely an image issue.

              Agreed. One thing to add: we are all victims of our image, and we maintain that image based on the audience we hang out with.
              Not everyone cares about what's fashionable or unfashionable, because even electronic ones today are distinguished only by brand names; their functionality is practically identical. And yet, people change them every year or two, even though they can still work for another five to seven years...

              Quote: balabol
              A decent person should have a mechanic "on the go" that is appropriate for the occasion

              Well, you've said the main thing: "a decent person"... there's no need to go on...
              And where will we find so many “decent” ones if the very concept is discredited?
              1. 0
                25 January 2026 19: 19
                "a decent person" - It's a question of self-identification. Belonging to a social group and stratum.
                I like Confucius's term "Noble Man" and the characteristics of one who qualifies for this title.
                1. 0
                  25 January 2026 19: 26
                  Let's not go into that topic.
            2. 0
              25 January 2026 18: 36
              Quote: balabol
              Production in units and prices, past and present. Production prospects and specifics. Market shares of various manufacturers.

              At least for the Swiss in past years...
            3. 0
              25 January 2026 19: 23
              Quote: balabol
              You are right to start talking about production, output volumes, market segmentation, prices and income.

              and there too:
              Quote from Fangaro
              This morning, two publications: the auto and watch industries in Russia.


              There's a "Russian Wristwatch Market Analysis for 2021-2025, with a Forecast for 2026-2030" available from BusinessStat. It's inexpensive—just 123,900 rubles.
              I felt sorry for the money, but if anyone wants it, there are no restrictions; you can buy it on this company's website...
              1. 0
                25 January 2026 19: 27
                I'm not interested in this question for the money. I was once intrigued by the history of the creation of timekeeping mechanisms. I even posted an article here. I could make a series, but it takes too much time to create anything remotely original.
                1. 0
                  25 January 2026 19: 29
                  Good books on watch mechanisms used to come across in the early 2000s, with high-quality graphics, details, brands, and inventors.
                  There are no such things today, and what there are is all online and everything is shortened to the limit...
                  1. 0
                    25 January 2026 20: 11
                    You can also satisfy your curiosity about this topic now. There are some interesting YouTube channels with animations, because, for example, a three-axis tourbillon is difficult to understand in drawings. But overall, I agree, books are interesting to read. Especially foreign ones have a lot of detail about the process of finding technical solutions.
                    1. 0
                      25 January 2026 20: 16
                      Quote: balabol
                      There are interesting channels with animations on YouTube, because, for example, a 3-axis tourbillon is difficult to understand in drawings.

                      It's possible, but I'm too lazy )))
                      Quote: balabol
                      In general, I agree, books are interesting to read.

                      Exactly... the book teaches you to think, and not just receive information for 5 minutes...
                      And I agree 100% - in foreign literature they describe the process of engineering thought in great detail, very vividly and interestingly.
          2. 0
            26 January 2026 01: 51
            For starters: General Secretaries wore Swiss uniforms. It was their status.
            And the fact that the Raketa is being purchased by the management suggests indifference to the Raketa. Oh well. It's like the Aurus. If it needs it, then it needs it.
            1. 0
              26 January 2026 13: 04
              I agree with you – status should be demonstrated; it's the face of the state. Although the 43rd US President, George W. Bush, wore a $50 Timex Indiglo watch and was proud of it...
              And the administration of the President of the Russian Federation... I had contact with them back in the days of Borodin and around that time... they were amazing people, they were absolutely below the plinth... that was a long time ago...
        2. 0
          28 January 2026 19: 48
          There is no sign of such support from AvtoVAZ.

          With the billions spent on VAZ, they could have supplied all the Chinese with their own watches, in a gold case and with a cuckoo.
          Even Putin periodically advertises these four-wheeled contraptions.
  15. 0
    24 January 2026 22: 49
    My favorite watch, which has been repaired many times already.
    orient td0e co ca
    They're about 20 years old, so it's hard to remember. After the last major fall (how I escaped injury is unclear – my clothes and shoes were damaged, and the watch flew far away, I barely found it), I had to replace the mechanism. Luckily, I have a good repairman. I don't use a chronograph or alarm clock – I use cell phones.
    I keep wanting to retire them - not wear them, just change the battery, but I don't want to buy consumer goods, and I also don't want to spend a lot of money on anything serious.
    I wear a smartwatch on my right hand, I’m already used to it.
  16. 0
    24 January 2026 22: 58
    Quote: hermit
    I don't go to the swimming pool or the steam room.

    To be honest, metal clocks are also a problem in a steam room...
  17. 0
    25 January 2026 00: 30
    Quote: ycuce234-san
    Decorative details are also often non-metallic.

    They're churned out. Someone might be milling super-expensive watches in Switzerland, but there's no point in producing such products in Russia. Anyone with the extra cash will still buy European ones at inflated prices.
  18. +1
    25 January 2026 04: 01
    Well, if the article is as good as AI, then the comments are like napalm:
    "In the 90s, Patek bought Raketa movements en masse, modified them, and installed them in its watches."
    "Americans make Rolex"
    "The French make mostly Cartier."
    "Simply luxury, they also call it premium - ... Cuervo y Sobrinos"
    "Pure America—the notorious Rolex. In my opinion, it's rubbish, a rags-to-riches scheme. They slap them on the shelves in the millions, but with such volumes, it's impossible to make truly elite watches; they're just expensive mass-produced goods."
    laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
    1. +1
      25 January 2026 08: 29
      drinks drinks drinks drinks
      The article is fine. But some of the comments are just too much. As the people from Babruisk said, they're too much.
  19. 0
    25 January 2026 10: 54
    Am I the only one who thinks that the dial of the 6E4-1 watch in the photo is upside down.
    By and large, the modern watch industry has moved into the category of jewelry industry, sometimes jewelry, sometimes costume jewelry.
  20. +2
    25 January 2026 19: 05
    Somewhere in the 90s I bought myself a Luch, I still remember it - for 100000 (100 rubles) - simple, light, not overloaded with anything unnecessary, they ran amazingly accurately, I used them for 3-4 years and they never let me down.
    Then, for my birthday, I got a Casio, which I had to wear so as not to offend the gift-giver, though the nickel-plated case had peeled off down to the brass from sweat. Then, for my 50th birthday, I got a Seiko. It's modest-looking, nickel-plated, black dial, no frills, and it's perfectly fine: it doesn't peel, it doesn't wear fast, and it doesn't lag.
    Wearing an expensive watch is somehow... kitsch for me, why?
    Honestly, Luch was enough for me. It's a good watch.
  21. 0
    26 January 2026 08: 53
    I haven't felt this good in a long time. And where? On Military Review. Author, keep up the good work!
    Thank the gods and spirits, at least I wasn't banned for trolling. laughing laughing laughing
  22. 0
    28 January 2026 12: 26
    Quote: Russian_Ninja
    In fact, I wouldn’t even take a watch to the steam room, the pool, or the sea.

    Of course, visiting these places won't improve the devices. But you have to know the time somehow, right? So they need to be dust- and moisture-proof, shock-resistant, with sapphire crystal, and whatever else. I never take my watch off, although now I wear a fitness tracker instead.
    1. +2
      28 January 2026 17: 26
      Quote: LuZappa
      Therefore, they must be dust/moisture-proof, shock-resistant, with sapphire glass, and whatever else there is.

      There's a recipe: dust-proof, waterproof, and foolproof... Free (recipe) )))
      1. +2
        28 January 2026 19: 51
        "He drowned some, burned others in the steam room." laughing
        (analogous to the joke about bearings)
        While you can somehow protect yourself from the first two, there's no way to protect yourself from the last one.
    2. 0
      29 January 2026 10: 17
      I agree and disagree at the same time.
      I agree that if there is a real need, it is better to buy everything in a watch (even though this will make the price rise sharply).
      But maybe these places don't really need a clock? Your body will generally tell you when it's had enough.

      Or do some thorough care after bathing - rinse in running water and other similar procedures
  23. +1
    28 January 2026 17: 28
    Quote: Vasily_Ostrovsky
    foolproof

    Such things don't exist in nature. "One breaks it, another loses it."
    1. +1
      28 January 2026 20: 03
      Quote: LuZappa
      foolproof

      Such things do not exist in nature at all.

      Of course it happens!
      All shipboard equipment and artillery were designed specifically to be foolproof. Everything stood firm...
  24. 0
    31 January 2026 02: 19
    Quote: Russian_Ninja
    In fact, I wouldn’t even take a watch to the steam room, the pool, or the sea.
    The same sea salt really likes to eat rubber moisture protection gaskets.
    And high humidity and temperature fluctuations in the sauna are clearly not beneficial for the mechanism.

    It depends on the watch. As a poor person, I wear a Fossil watch when I'm out and about, but when I'm swimming in the sea, playing volleyball, or chopping wood, I wear a Casio G-SHOCK. I used to use the indestructible SWATCH watches, both electronic and quartz. They didn't care about the sea, saunas, or knocks (not on the glass, of course). And when I worked in a chemistry lab, I used pocket watches because it was very easy to catch something corrosive or irritating under the strap. And there are no watches that can withstand chemicals. By the way, remember the idea of ​​implanting a watch with LED indicators under the skin to detect them?
    1. 0
      April 10 2026 07: 18
      the idea of ​​implanting a watch flashed

      The idea has been realized for a long time; rings are made into tattoos.
  25. 0
    14 February 2026 19: 35
    Vostok has been operating since 1988, and my brother bought the first Montana in 82-83 at a flea market.
  26. 0
    April 10 2026 07: 14
    In the 90s, the Angstrom factory survived thanks to the production of microchips for mass-produced watches. Its primary customers were from abroad; according to one executive, about a third of LCD watches were produced with Angstrom displays.
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    11 July 2026 23: 39
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