What deuce for? Will ministers get reprimanded by the president and what is the point

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Regardless of exactly what form President Vladimir Putin will assess the work of the three ministers of the social bloc at the meeting with government members scheduled for Tuesday, whether in the form of a severe reprimand, as predicted by the media, or in the form of “exchange of opinions”, as the press Secretary of the Head of State Dmitry Peskov - in any case, this assessment will obviously not be positive. And it’s not at all the slow pace of fulfilling presidential instructions, which were formulated for the implementation of a series of social policy decrees signed exactly a year ago. Although it is this question that is stated as the main topic of the Tuesday meeting. Most likely, we can talk about the general dissatisfaction of the country's top leadership with what education, social policy, and health care reforms look like in a few years after launch.

Moreover, the Ministry of Health, the Ministry of Education and the Ministry of Labor have no any problems with fulfilling the instructions of the president. In the certificate of the fulfillment of presidential instructions, published on April 10 on the website of the government, no debts of any of the relevant departments are listed. All of them reported on the implementation of instructions strictly within the prescribed period, and only a small part of the reports submitted is still under consideration by the Presidential Administration. True, the Ministry of Labor has such “hung up” 29 reports, while the Ministry of Health and the Ministry of Education and Science have one at a time. But the Labor Ministry also says that all the reports have also been submitted on time, and the delay in reviewing the documents falls within the competence of the Presidential Administration.

Obviously, the problem is not in the accountability of the ministries, but in the urgent dissatisfaction with the social sphere in society and numerous purely image punctures of recent times. First of all, it concerns education and health care, as their work is monitored on a daily basis by the whole country, and not only by the authorities. People judge the ministers and the president by hospitals, schools, and salaries in these institutions. And the improvement in individual nosology indices, by and large, is indifferent.

However, these indicators were identified, for example, in the Presidential Decree on improving public health policy from 7 in May last year, the execution of which was entrusted to the Ministry of Health. A significant reduction in the incidence of tuberculosis, a decrease in cardiovascular pathologies and deaths from them, a reduction in the number of people killed in road accidents - all this happens almost ahead of schedule established by presidential decree, according to statistics from the Ministry of Health. As promised, since January 1 standards of medical care have been introduced / true, they are not backed up by staff of appropriate qualifications or drug accompaniment, but this is another matter /. Even the law restricting smoking in public places was adopted on time, despite numerous improvements. And the impression of the work of the department as a whole is still a burden.

The rallies of the disappointed doctors in the 23 regions, whose salaries did not grow this year, as officials promised / after all, 40 billion rubles were allocated from the federal budget for this purpose, but, on the contrary, they dropped after the new year, they easily erased the statistical idyll of the department .

The doctors cut the money, of course, not at the Ministry of Health, but somewhere at the level of governors, but doctors and nurses do not know the names of local administrators of budgets and the government curse with feeling. In fact, Russian healthcare is now falling into two unequal, parallel, existing parts - federal and regional subordination. The federal government allocates money, the regional one distributes it at its own discretion and without further comment. But the salary 90 percent of the country's medical workers depends on those who distribute funds in the field.

There is a feeling that the moment has come when the reforms initiated by 3-4 a year ago by the previous government should be adjusted to reflect interim results. Or their absence. A sober assessment should be given of what can be done on time, taking into account all the specifics of our country, and on what measures it is better to impose a moratorium for the time being. And the three Minister Losers here, in fact, nothing to do with it.
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  1. +7
    7 May 2013 06: 01
    Will announce a severe reprimand in connection with the transfer to another job wassat
    1. +8
      7 May 2013 08: 42
      "Effective managers" are not reprimanded. To another job - yes! Into the presidential administration, like their predecessors.
    2. yak69
      +4
      7 May 2013 10: 56
      Quote: Ruslan67
      Will announce a severe reprimand in connection with the transfer to another job

      What reprimand, what are you talking about ?!
      They are already drilling holes in pinjacks for orders! You were told: "They reported on time, no complaints." And a painful impression on the people, so you can’t always please him (the people)! I didn’t like the Soviet government, give me freedom! Please, here's EBN-freedom.
      EBN do not like? Please GDP. Not that again ?! Here is a nano-DAM. Not that! GDP in the ass, come on! And again not that. Now the ministers are not the same.
      Well, you will not please our people!
      Or maybe it’s not the ministers and presidents? And in ourselves?
      Maybe it’s time for us (the people) to decide for ourselves what we want and make (finally!) The right choice? ......
      1. Dmitry_2013
        -3
        7 May 2013 15: 57
        Do not tell me who to choose?
        1. yak69
          0
          7 May 2013 16: 54
          Quote: Dmitry_2013
          Do not tell me who to choose?

          You do not need hints; you have already chosen your own hosts.
          1. Dmitry_2013
            0
            7 May 2013 17: 05
            Ha, did your analysis show this? Facts do not provide?
            PS The owner is the dog, but not the man.
            1. yak69
              +2
              7 May 2013 19: 27
              Quote: Dmitry_2013
              this analysis showed? Facts do not provide?

              Facts?? - the spirit and logic of your comments.
              Quote: Dmitry_2013
              The dog has the owner, but not the person.

              "People" who cannot objectively think independently must have masters. They can't do without owners!
              1. Dmitry_2013
                -2
                8 May 2013 08: 04
                "People" who cannot objectively think independently must have masters. They can't do without owners!

                Well, you correctly wrote about it to yourself. I put a plus. wink
                Facts?? - the spirit and logic of your comments.

                In your comments, there are always conclusions that, without concrete evidence, are highly doubtful. And when you are asked to explain or prove something, you carefully taxied. Or do you all believe the word?
  2. fenix57
    +13
    7 May 2013 06: 13
    Hello! .. Yes, what are the .... n "twos-threes", here is the "school" found- and "LABORATORY WORKS" in the face of the PEOPLE OF RUSSIA. It may be easier - to resign, without the right to hold a position in the civil service. With personal responsibility for the damage caused ... A .... hi
    1. bask
      +5
      7 May 2013 07: 05
      Quote: fenix57
      Hello! .. Yes, what kind of "two-three" on .... n "two-three", here is the "school" and "LABORATORY WORKS" represented by

      THERE ARE PARTS NEEDED !!! It's time for PHYSICAL COMMENTS. Physical punishment was called, flogging with rods.
      Then gut will work ....
      1. +6
        7 May 2013 11: 57
        THERE ARE PARTS NEEDED !!! It's time for PHYSICAL COMMENTS. Physical punishment was called, flogging with rods.
        Then gut will work

        Replace simple thieves with sadomaso thieves? Nooo, caused damage - work out a penny at a construction site specifically for such created or uranium mines.
        1. +6
          7 May 2013 14: 13
          Quote: Ivan.
          Replace simple thieves with sadomaso thieves? Nooo, caused damage - work out a penny at a construction site specifically for such created or uranium mines.

          And before construction, confiscation of property
      2. Kaa
        +3
        7 May 2013 13: 13
        Quote: bask
        Physical punishment, called, flogging with rods,
        What are you, what are you, this is a violation of rights people official, democracy ... Maybe the new is the well-forgotten old?
        1. bask
          +3
          7 May 2013 16: 30
          Quote: Kaa
          oh you, this is a violation of the human rights of an official, democracy ..

          And by doing nothing, they violate my and your rights. Pulling Russia to the economic crisis.
          You are right, gave an example of L.P. Beria. Radically: he couldn’t do it, he was stolen, the train was Moscow-Magadan. Confiscation of property. Or green forehead, grease.
    2. +7
      7 May 2013 07: 48
      Quote: fenix57
      It may be easier to resign, without the right to hold a position in the public service. With personal responsibility for the damage .. And ....
      And also GORGE, GREW and GORE again, in the most conspicuous place, with a mass gathering of people, it seems like nothing else "these chiefs" can make to work ...
    3. +8
      7 May 2013 10: 04
      fenix57
      Quote: fenix57
      they found the "school" and "LABORATORY WORKS" represented by PEOPLE OF RUSSIA

      good Greetings. For this one, clearly expressed thought, you are a plus. drinks

      According to the article.
      "In fact, Russian healthcare breaks up now two unequal parallel existing parts - federal subordination and regional... The federal government allocates money, the regional one allocates at its own discretion and without unnecessary comments. "

      Ha ha ha ha .... Is this news ???
      Medvedev and Putin, mind you, for a long time (well, a year or two) and persistently, have been trying to throw off the STATE functions, on the local "kings" - like, you yourself, drive as you want. Thus, removing, from myself, In South a responsibility. Well, the "people" chose, "... In short ..." - so live. What are the claims to the president and the federal government? ... The "people" are in a stupor, but really, the guilty ones, like, locals ... Very convenient ... "Divide and rule". Voooooot ...
      That is, by saying. from the "zomboyaschik" about rallying and unity, what really happens is the division into principalities, the translation of discontent into "tsars" (or "Tsapkov"? laughing ). After all, the words about providing "bоgreater "powers, to governors, measures, kh.ram and other CHUSHI - this is shifting, first of all, responsibilities, to the" uncle "...
      What we write about so often on this site, NO -
      O T V E T S T V E N N O S T I .
      И NO ONE, including the president, does not want to take it upon himself ...
      Yes, and no one wants to punish either ... "We don't hand over our own ..." Well, well ...
      All this is sad ...
    4. +3
      7 May 2013 11: 27
      They will not send anyone to resign, they will scold him, threaten with a finger, and that’s all. Even when Putin made promises, experts concluded that they were not feasible. The state does not have money to fulfill all obligations, so they were then called populist. To promise is easy, but to fulfill is always difficult. Already in the state there is a shortage of money. A lot of money went to the Universiade, then the Olympics, and now on the nose (in 2018) the World Cup, which allocated 542 billion. rubles, and according to recent estimates, 1,2 trillion is needed. rubles. And where to get them?
  3. +3
    7 May 2013 06: 21
    Or maybe put half of the part on the "quarter", put a part against the wall? The rest will then think about it.
    By the way, the central government, it seems, is really not in the heat of what is happening in the regions. Either they are not aware, or they just do not care.
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    2. +5
      7 May 2013 09: 44
      Quote: Temer
      the central government, it seems, is really not in the heat of what is happening in the regions. Either they are not aware, or they just do not care.

      Regional authorities are far from holy, but to translate arrows on them is not a gut. In the 90s, a vicious system of wage formation was created, when the base rate did not increase significantly, and all possible surcharges grew. Now, cunning officials, with an increase in base rates, are adopting many interdepartmental acts that sharply reduce the payment of previously accrued allowances (often regional). And so it turns out, the salary of a teacher, a doctor is growing, and the salary of Ivan Ivanich, who works as a doctor, is almost absent.
      1. +6
        7 May 2013 10: 54
        here, by the way, about salary:
        1. +2
          7 May 2013 13: 44
          And I mean this: investors and employers easily justify this by competition, while economists easily "overturn" the planned economy by the efficiency of competition. And at whose expense they prefer not to remember such a "good" - the "good" people will be constantly busy looking for work and food and will have no time to think. Slave-owner-employer, slave-worker. We'll live to see the afterlife and live, ehhhh.
  4. waisson
    +5
    7 May 2013 06: 28
    Alexander Grigorich for a month seconded ba in an instant figured out. and ............ chews snot and feeds with promises
  5. vladsolo56
    +8
    7 May 2013 07: 51
    Yes, I read, Putin reprimanded three ministers, a kindergarten, if the minister, and the minister is the same worker as everyone else, if he does not follow the orders of the boss, he just needs to be driven without severance pay. To whom to figure out why it is not fulfilled, but maybe it's sabotage. In this case, the minister already falls under the article of the criminal code. But this is if by law, and if by concept, he will be reprimanded several times, and then they will be relieved of his post and will say that in general there are no complaints against him.
  6. +4
    7 May 2013 07: 59
    Warning, reprimand, execution. Confiscation by itself
  7. +2
    7 May 2013 08: 02
    Quote: fenix57
    Hello! .. Yes, what are the .... n "twos-threes", here is the "school" found- and "LABORATORY WORKS" in the face of the PEOPLE OF RUSSIA. It may be easier - to resign, without the right to hold a position in the civil service. With personal responsibility for the damage caused ... A .... hi


    That's right, let them experiment on rabbits and mice there. If I were Putin, I would send the whole cabinet to hell with the dog! Haili we B. Yeltsin, but there was one good feature in him. When he woke up, he often took and dismissed the entire government from a hangover. You can try to give a chance to Comrade Zyuganov to become Prime Minister. It is painfully sweet speech he leads. And you can Kudrin. We are discussing the candidates. Maybe Shoigu?
    1. ole
      ole
      +4
      7 May 2013 08: 59
      VohaAhov In place of Putin? But if we will not accept all the modernizations and innovations that have been started and are being implemented, again the boyars are bad, maybe. But he would have been able to pick up a normal team long ago in power. And so of course everything falls apart like a rotten rag and it’s too late to darn, it’s too late to cut it in a new way.
    2. AdAAkRuSS
      +2
      7 May 2013 20: 37
      Kudrin? Let Vekselberg be a "good" financier right away! stop Isn’t it enough for us to experiment, we are not rabbits, but people! [There is a feeling that the time has come when the reforms begun 3-4 years ago by the previous government should be adjusted taking into account the intermediate results.] Twenty years of reform and pursuing reforms, or is it my subjective FEELING?
  8. +2
    7 May 2013 08: 16
    Quote: fenix57
    It may be easier to resign, without the right to hold a position in the public service. With personal responsibility for the damage .. And ....

    Well this is from the realm of fiction.
  9. N.I.K. 163
    +7
    7 May 2013 08: 36
    All of them are in one hole .... The Soviet system of education has been ruined the best in the world, it’s better not to recall health care in general. Now, how to raise science in 10 years if the youth are now all sick and make 2 mistakes in the word world. To the army for health reasons one third is not in compliance with standards. Now it’s easier to get a higher education than a turnip, there would be money and all kinds of universities in each city, a dozen.
  10. Vtel
    +4
    7 May 2013 08: 57
    The GDP will scold them, and pat them over the head, and they will tell us what you want - they only harm you for a year, and you already run over. In general, a liberal swamp with a marginal quagmire.
  11. +9
    7 May 2013 09: 03
    in addition to the topic
  12. optimist
    +10
    7 May 2013 09: 37
    I wonder if there are still “clever guys” who believe in this “show for lo hohs”? And they don't understand that until the social system is replaced in the country, something will change for the better? However, there has never been a shortage of fools in Russia ...
    1. +2
      7 May 2013 10: 28
      Quote: optimist
      Interesting really still there were "clever men"

      wink You are - optimist ШЮtk ...
      Remained, remained ...
      Themselves and answer -
      Quote: optimist
      there has never been a shortage of fools in Russia ...


      A -
      Quote: optimist
      social order
      , this is SOCIALISM ... who knows.
      1. optimist
        +3
        7 May 2013 10: 36
        I would still like to remain an Optimist. And wait for that bright day when the majority of "dArAghih Rasiyans" finally understand the simple formula: humpbacked = EBN = Chubais = GDP = stools, etc., etc.
        1. +1
          7 May 2013 12: 05
          Quote: optimist
          I would still like to remain an Optimist

          At heart, we, all optimists ...
          Quote: optimist
          . And wait for that bright day when most "DARAGIKH RASIYAN" finally will understand a simple formula: humpback = EBN = chubais = GDP = stools, etc, etc ....
          All "dARAGIE"- "not expensive", "black", are almost here ... bully
          Oh, others, true, WE, apparently ... Well, you yourself know ... "Maxim is dead - well, x .. with him."
  13. +3
    7 May 2013 10: 33
    "There is a feeling that the moment has come when the reforms started 3-4 years ago by the previous government, should be adjusted taking into account the intermediate results."

    How streamlined it is written - so as not to offend anyone!
    Why are they planning to adjust there? It is about RESTORING health care, education and not only them! Correct too late!
  14. aleks71
    +8
    7 May 2013 10: 42
    Hello everyone! I don’t understand one thing .. Is there at least one professional in the non-governmental government? After listening to economists, analysts, everything that is not done by the Medvedev team is only to the detriment of the country .. By the way, everything is very clearly argued (Glazyev, Khazin, Delyagin, etc. d.). As I understand it, friendship is friendship, and service is service. It is sad that RUSSIA is at stake because of its emotions. And in a fairy tale about a good tsar and bad boyars already .... I DO NOT TRUST .. I lost faith .. I have this decision it wasn’t easy for them to accept ... All of them are stupid in one world and all that they do is just to ruin .. Until what time will all this ... continue?
    1. AdAAkRuSS
      +2
      7 May 2013 20: 53
      Until then, when we harness! And there it hangs on: meaningless and merciless am
  15. +6
    7 May 2013 10: 48
    For an imitation of labor, give out salaries by photocopies of rubles / hryvnia!
    1. +3
      7 May 2013 13: 47
      Still expensive! Waste paper ..., print 30 pieces of silver on their backs!
  16. +3
    7 May 2013 11: 15
    The regions began to reduce social support to citizens. For example: preferential travel for pensioners, people with disabilities, and other socially supported citizens, ceased to be unlimited, and set a limit, which is not enough for a daily trip to work for a month. If a person wants an unlimited travel card, then you need to pay more money. And where does more money come from if the pension has not grown adequately for inflation? So these measures, such as reprimands of lawyers, for Comrade Putin can end very badly. Indeed, in this situation, the situation will worsen and social tension will increase before the explosion. Incidentally, an analysis of the discussions among the residents of the regions who felt a reduction in social support suggests that these citizens understand that it was cut off by local authorities. at the level of city hall and governors. A barrel is rolled on them, most, but not all. The rest blame the government and the president. So the latter need to more diligently think about these issues)
  17. +3
    7 May 2013 11: 55
    What is the point of all these suggestions. All manual control and the lack of a country's development program. Change places and only ... Nobody is kicked out. sitting on mediocrity. Relatives and furry all the time. And Putin knows that.
  18. +4
    7 May 2013 12: 00
    It's a shame for the power !!!! Really the law will not budge and transfer all these nouveau riche !!! They need 17 years? How zadolbal bureaucratic demon limit and do not care ....
    1. 0
      7 May 2013 13: 53
      How zadolbal bureaucratic demon limit and do not care ..
      Even as a zadolbal.

      Really the law will not budge and transfer all these nouveau riche !!!

      The law in the country is people and we endure and eat their verbal cooking. Hands itch, but you can’t make revolutions; you need to look for another way.
  19. +2
    7 May 2013 15: 54
    Municipalities on the periphery (especially rural) are poor as church rats. And they hung a social network. And from whether Livanov will get a reprimand, the roofs in rural schools will not leak, and there will be no more beds in district hospitals.
  20. Rrv
    Rrv
    0
    7 May 2013 18: 24
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  21. +2
    7 May 2013 19: 30
    One bowl and all of it peck.
    Usually even fined ministers are sent as ambassadors!
    Or to the Presidential Administration as "punishment" !!!
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  23. +1
    7 May 2013 19: 34
    Listened to the radio results. Putin noted postscripts in the payment reports; adoption of non-performing programs; irresponsibility in doing what you can and should do, etc. It was decided to create a system according to ......., well, as usual.
    Strong managers gathered at the meeting!
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  27. AdAAkRuSS
    +1
    7 May 2013 20: 59
    Quote: Zeus
    So the latter need to more diligently think about these issues)
    And the last do not care, the next election is still far away.
  28. 0
    7 May 2013 21: 07
    I watched this meeting with members of the government on TV. The President instructed all ministers, without exception, to draw up a plan of alleged personal accomplishments and achievements in the field of their responsibility
    with a personal report at the end of the year. So it seems that they will count chickens in the winter, and I think many will not be counted ...

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