The revolutionary career of Mikhail Frunze

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The revolutionary career of Mikhail Frunze

In this article, we will begin the story of Mikhail Vasilyevich Frunze (Frunzee), who, without having a military education, became the best Soviet commander of the civil war, but, unfortunately, died at the age of 40 on October 31, 1925.

Revolutions, as we know, do not occur in justly organized and prosperous countries. N. Berdyaev also wrote about this, stating:



Revolution is a punishment sent from above for the sins of the past, a fatal consequence of an old evil... Revolution always indicates that those in power have not fulfilled their purpose.

By destroying rather than rebuilding the existing state system, old traditions, and the old way of life, revolutions invariably entail great sacrifices. However, by destroying a long-established, degenerate, and ineffective elite, they pave the way for talented individuals who had no chance of self-realization under the old regime. Therefore, revolutions lead not to a halt in the development of the state and society, but, on the contrary, to a leap forward, when a country, in a few years, traverses a path that took other states decades to follow.

One of these "new men" was Mikhail Frunze, born in the remote backwaters of the Russian Empire, the son of a military paramedic who died early and a peasant woman. It was thanks to the October Revolution that he became one of the most outstanding Soviet commanders and rose to the post of Chairman of the Revolutionary Military Council of the USSR and People's Commissar for Military and Naval Affairs.

Let's start our story in order.

The origin and youth of the hero of the article


Mikhail Vasilyevich Frunze was born on January 21 (February 2) in the then still very small town of Pishpek (Bishkek), which later became the capital of the Kyrgyz Republic (and for several decades bore the name of the article’s hero).


Frunze Memorial House, Bishkek

The subject's father was a native of the village of Zakharovka in the Kherson province. He managed to secure a place at the paramedic school at the Imperial Moscow Orphanage, after which he was sent to Turkestan, where he met his future wife, Mavra Efimovna Bochkareva. The daughter of Voronezh peasants, she was born in the Turkestan city of Tokmak, where her parents had moved. The family had eight children, but three died young. The family was never particularly prosperous, and after the death of its head, Vasily Frunze, they found themselves in near-destitution. They were forced to sell their house, but the money soon ran out, forcing the widow to ask the city authorities for an allowance to pay for her children's education. She wrote:

The eldest (Konstantin) is doing well in his studies, and the youngest (Mikhail, the subject of this article) is doing very well. Educating two sons in high school and two girls, Klavdia and Lyudmila, in girls' colleges requires considerable expense. My heart sinks at the thought that as a result of this (lack of funds), they may be left without the education so essential to every person's livelihood today.

The authorities came to their aid, funds were allocated, and Konstantin and Mikhail began studying at the gymnasium in the city of Verny (now Almaty).


High school student Mikhail Frunze

The allowance, however, was quite meager, so the brothers had to earn extra money as tutors, especially since they were doing well academically – both graduated from high school with gold medals. Konstantin continued his studies at the Faculty of Medicine at Kazan University. He subsequently received the titles of Honored Doctor of the Tajik SSR and Hero of Labor of the Tajik SSR. It's worth noting that the subject of this article's sister, Lyudmila, a veteran of the Great Patriotic War and a colonel in the medical service, also chose medical education. After the war, she worked at the Central Military Hospital.

Mikhail Frunze began studying at the St. Petersburg Polytechnic Institute in 1904, where he became fascinated with revolutionary ideas. He took part in student protests, and on November 28, 1904, he was detained by police and jailed for 15 days. Cossacks had injured his knee, and he was unable to receive qualified medical care. There was no way to spare his leg or rest. The injury had consequences: Frunze suffered several recurrent knee dislocations during heavy loads and awkward movements.

On January 9, 1905, he took part in the march to the Winter Palace. After the shooting of this peaceful demonstration, the fall of the tsarist regime was only a matter of time.

Maximilian Voloshin wrote:

The bloody week in St. Petersburg was neither a revolution nor a day of revolution. What happened was far more important. The Russian government's motto, "Autocracy, Orthodoxy, and Nationality," was laid to waste. The government rejected Orthodoxy because it gave the order to fire on icons and a religious procession. The government declared itself hostile to the people because it gave the order to fire on those who sought the protection of the Tsar. These days were merely a mystical prologue to a great national tragedy that had not yet begun.

Here is an entry in O. Mandelstam’s diary:

A child's cap, a mitten, a woman's scarf, abandoned on this day in the snow of St. Petersburg, remained a reminder that the Tsar must die, that the Tsar will die.


V. Kossak. "Bloody Sunday", 1905

Savva Morozov told Gorky about the events of January 9:

Now the revolution is assured... Years of propaganda would not have achieved what His Majesty himself achieved on this day.

Leo Tolstoy wrote on May 18, 1905:

The Tsar is considered a sacred person, but you have to be a fool, or an evil person, or a madman to do what Nicholas does.

Alexander Blok recalled how the last emperor’s favorite, Admiral Nilov, said a few steps away from him in a circle of courtiers:

There will be a revolution, we will all be hanged, but on what poles - what difference does it make?

M. Frunze was wounded in the right arm. It was then that he finally decided on his fate and wrote to his mother:

Dear Mom, you have a son, Kostya, and daughters. I hope they won't abandon you, but I think you should give up on me... The rivers of blood spilled on January 9th demand retribution. The die has been cast, the Rubicon has been crossed, the path has been determined. I give myself entirely to the revolution. Don't be surprised by any news about me.

He later said that it was the events of Bloody Sunday that made him a "general of the revolution."

Having ended up on the list of “unreliable” people, Mikhail Frunze was expelled from the capital and settled in Moscow.

Mikhail Frunze in Ivanovo-Voznesensk


At the beginning of May 1905, the hero of the article was sent to Ivanovo-Voznesensk (Ivanovo), which was then part of the Vladimir province.


M. Frunze in 1905

Here he took an active part in organizing a large-scale strike of workers in textile factories (he was known as “Comrade Arseny”).

This Ivanovo weavers' strike lasted 72 days—from May 12 to July 23, 1905. The strikes spread throughout the entire "chintz region"—the textile industrial region of Ivanovo-Voznesensk. In Shuya, for example, 20 people went on strike. Strikes were also organized in Kokhma, Kineshma, Vichuga, and Rodniki. The total number of protesters reached 70.


A fragment of E. Deshalyt's diorama "The General Strike of Ivanovo-Voznesensk Workers in May 1905"

These events were witnessed by 13-year-old Dmitry Furmanov, who later described them in his story “Talka”.

At first, purely economic demands were put forward, such as an eight-hour workday (instead of 15), higher wages, and the abolition of fines. Then political slogans emerged, demanding freedom of speech and the press, the right to form trade unions and organize strikes, and the convening of an all-Russian Constituent Assembly. Ivanovo factory owner D. Burylin wrote to an acquaintance:

An unprecedented scene, the workers are like animals. The management is at a loss. I'm without a coachman, I'm boiling the tea myself, the last watchman has been fired from the factory, I'm guarding the factory myself... I have it on good authority that the strike leaders are out-of-towners, educated. They're leading with a vengeance. A dual power structure is palpable in the city. The workers refuse to negotiate within their own factories; they're putting forward general demands.

It was then, on May 15, 1905, that the first citywide Council of Workers' Deputies in the Russian Empire was created, which acted precisely as an organ of revolutionary power.


Deputies of the Ivanovo-Voznesensk Council on the banks of the Talka River

A fighting squad was also created, headed by the 20-year-old Bolshevik I. Utkin (the same age as Frunze). Part weapons for the vigilantes was captured at the police station of the Vichura station, the hero of the article led this action.

It should be noted that this strike divided the factory workers: some were willing to admit that their exploitative methods had gone too far and that the situation should therefore be defused, negotiations with the strikers should be negotiated, and some of their demands should be met. But the majority, supported by the governor, demanded that the government brutally suppress the strike.

The first bloodshed occurred on June 3rd near the Talka River, where participants in a rally were shot at the traditional site of workers' meetings. The strike continued, the authorities made concessions, and the governor recognized the workers' right to hold meetings. Then, factory owner Gryaznov "wavered," announcing his agreement to a ten-hour workday and a wage increase of approximately 20-25%. Kashintsev and Shchapov were next to make concessions, followed by others. As a result, the average workday was to be reduced to 10,5 hours, the average wage was to increase by 10%, and certain benefits were promised to pregnant and nursing mothers. However, many factory owners soon "adjusted" these concessions to their own advantage.

Mikhail Frunze's further revolutionary career



Frunze's gendarme card with a description of his features, 1907, photograph from the M. Frunze Museum in Samara provided by S. Petrov

The next significant episode in the article's hero's revolutionary activities was the fighting at the Krasnaya Presnya barricades during the Moscow December Uprising. Here, he led a detachment of Shuya weavers who, in order to reach Moscow, seized a locomotive and two carriages. Near the Bolshoy Presnensky Bridge, they built the largest barricade in Moscow (up to 8 arshins high), which they held for several days. They then managed to return home.

In the spring of 1906, he was the youngest delegate to the Fourth Congress of the RSDLP in Stockholm. He met Lenin, Voroshilov, and Kalinin. He returned to Ivanovo-Voznesensk and in January 1907 organized a high-profile operation: leading a group of 17 armed revolutionaries, he seized Limonov's private printing house during the day, forcing its employees to print leaflets. He was elected a delegate to the Fifth Congress, but was arrested on the night of March 24, 1907. A Mauser, a Browning, and two carbines were found in his apartment. He apparently resisted arrest, as he was struck hard in the face with a rifle butt.


M. Frunze in 1907

Let's digress a bit to say that M. Bulgakov, in the libretto he wrote for the Bolshoi Theater for the opera "Black Sea" (about the liberation of Crimea occupied by Wrangel), which was never staged, portrays Frunze as the Red Army commander Mikhailov - and the play's hero has a dream-memory in which he is beaten with rifle butts in the Vladimir Central Prison.

Frunze was initially sentenced to four years of hard labor, but was later sentenced to death for his involvement in the assassination attempt on police officer Perlov. On death row, he spent two months studying Italian, comparing Russian and Italian Bible texts.


M. Frunze in Vladimir Central in January 1909 after being sentenced to death

However, thanks to the efforts of attorney A. Ern, State Duma deputy M. Chelnokov from the Constitutional Democrats, and professors from the Polytechnic Institute, his death sentence was commuted to six years of hard labor (taking into account the previous sentence of 10 years). Until 1914, he was held in the Vladimir, Aleksandrovskaya, and Nikolaevskaya penal prisons, then, due to health reasons (a stomach ulcer and suspected tuberculosis), he was sent to permanent settlement in the village of Manzurka in the Irkutsk region.

It should be noted that Frunze's stomach ulcers were accompanied by severe pain and were complicated several times by serious bleeding.

In August 1915, Frunze was arrested again, this time for founding an organization of exiles. However, he managed to escape to Chita and, using documents in the name of V. G. Vasilenko, found work in the statistics department of the resettlement administration. He wrote articles for the weekly newspaper "Zabaikalskoye Obozreniye."


M. Frunze in Chita

It was here that he married Sofya Alexandrovna Popova, the daughter of an exiled Narodnaya Volya member.


Frunze with his wife

In 1916, facing arrest, Frunze and his wife moved to Moscow, where a friend, the Mikhailov family, gave him the passport of their son, who had gone missing in the war. The Frunzes then moved to Minsk, where the subject of this article worked as a statistician for the All-Russian Zemstvo Union.


M. Frunze in 1916 in Minsk

On official business he often traveled to the front, creating regimental committees in various parts of the Western Front.

Mikhail Frunze after the February Revolution


On March 4, 1917, the hero of the article was appointed chief of the Minsk police by the leadership of the Zemsky Union – this day is currently a professional holiday for the republican police in Belarus.


Gomel, a monument dedicated to the centenary of the Belarusian police

On the night of March 4–5, 1917, with the support of garrison soldiers, he disarmed the imperial police and took control of the city with militia units. He soon received documents in his real name. In the summer of 1917, M.V. Frunze also became chairman of the executive committee of the Council of Peasants' Deputies of the Minsk and Vilnius Provinces, editor of two newspapers—Krestyanskaya and Zvyazda—a member of the Minsk City Committee of the RSDLP, the Soldiers' Committee of the Western Front, and the executive committee of the Minsk Council of Workers' and Soldiers' Deputies. But in September 1917, he was ordered to Shuya, where he was elected chairman of the Council of Workers', Peasants', and Soldiers' Deputies, the district zemstvo council, and the city duma.

But already in October, we find Frunze in Moscow, where the detachment he led (around two thousand men) fought against the opponents of the Bolsheviks. In March 1918, he was elected chairman of the Ivanovo-Voznesensk Provincial Executive Committee and the Provincial Economic Council. Interestingly, when the private museum of manufacturer Dmitry Burylin was nationalized, Frunze appointed the former owner as its director and left part of the house at his disposal. Today, it is the Ivanovo State Museum of History and Local Lore named after D. Burylin. The Burylin family home now houses the Ivanovo Chintz Museum.

In the next article, we will continue the story and discuss the beginning of Mikhail Frunze's military career.
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  1. + 12
    16 January 2026 04: 55
    Revolution always shows that those in power have not fulfilled their purpose.
    Serious warning....
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  2. + 11
    16 January 2026 05: 24
    Special thanks for the article about Frunze!
    For a long time he worked and lived on the streets of Frunze (in different cities).
    I think there are no fewer of them than those named after Lenin, and definitely more - Chapaev, Budyonny or Shchors.
    Have a nice day, everyone.
    1. +8
      16 January 2026 06: 23
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      I think there are no fewer of them than those named after Lenin, and definitely more - Chapaev, Budyonny or Shchors.


      In addition to streets, districts and even cities were named after Frunze, and even one region was named Frunzenskaya, as well as:
      • JSC “Mine named after M.V. Frunze” (Yasenovskiy urban-type settlement, Luhansk region, Ukraine)
      • Kharkiv plant for the production of perforated metal sheets named after M.V. Frunze
      • Book Factory named after M. V. Frunze (Kharkiv)
      Military Academy named after M.V. Frunze
      Sumy Higher Artillery Command School, Twice Red Banner, named after M. V. Frunze
      Odessa Higher Artillery Command School named after M. V. Frunze (merged into the Odessa Institute of Ground Forces and then disbanded in 2007)
      2nd Ulyanovsk Tank School named after M.V. Frunze (disbanded in 1960)
      Kiev Higher Combined Arms Command Twice Red Banner School named after M. V. Frunze (reformed in 1992)
      Omsk Higher Combined Arms Command Twice Red Banner School named after M. V. Frunze (in 1999, it was transformed into the Omsk Cadet Corps)
      The Higher Naval Order of Lenin, Red Banner, and Order of Ushakov School named after M. V. Frunze (formerly the Cadet Corps)
      Leningrad Higher Military Command School of Railway Troops and Military Communications named after M.V. Frunze
      • Simferopol State University named after M.V. Frunze
      • Chisinau Agricultural Institute named after M. V. Frunze
      • Central Aerodrome named after M.V. Frunze is the first Moscow airfield
      • Central House of Aviation and Cosmonautics named after M.V. Frunze
      • Nizhny Novgorod Plant named after M.V. Frunze - a plant for the production of electronic devices
      • Penza Bicycle Plant named after M.V. Frunze ("ZIF")
      • Sumy Machine-Building Scientific and Production Association named after M.V. Frunze is one of the leading machine-building complexes in Europe for the production of equipment for the oil, gas and chemical industries
      • Ivanovo Textile Institute named after M. V. Frunze (1930-1994)
      • Production Association "Arsenal" named after M.V. Frunze (St. Petersburg);
      • Central House of the Red Army named after M.V. Frunze (Moscow) (later it was renamed the Central House of the Soviet Army named after M.V. Frunze, and then the Central House of the Russian Army named after M.V. Frunze)
      • In Tiraspol there is a state farm-technical school named after M. V. Frunze
      • Frunze collective farm, Aleksandrovka settlement (Donetsk region, Ukraine)
      • Sanatorium named after M. V. Frunze (Sochi)[32]
      • Central Republican Stadium named after Frunze in Dushanbe, Tajikistan (until the early 1990s).
      • Four-deck passenger river ship “Mikhail Frunze” project 92-016, built in 1980 in Czechoslovakia.
      Frunze (former Bystry) is a Schastlivy-class destroyer.
      Mikhail Frunze (formerly Poltava) is a Sevastopol-class battleship.
      Frunze (currently Admiral Lazarev) is a Project 1144 heavy nuclear-powered missile cruiser.
      "Frunze" is a Project 68-K cruiser.
      • Mine named after M. V. Frunze, PJSC Sukha Balka, Krivoy Rog
      • School No. 2 named after M. V. Frunze in Krasnoperekopsk, Republic of Crimea.
      • "Frunzevets" is the newspaper of the Turkestan Military District (TurkVO) in the USSR.
      • Frunze is a chain of hypermarkets in Kyrgyzstan.

      Some names have survived to this day.
      1. +6
        16 January 2026 06: 36
        kromer
        0
        Today

        In Samara, the former name was the M.V. Frunze Motor-Building Plant (now PJSC UEC-Kuznetsov). feel
        1. +6
          16 January 2026 06: 40
          Quote: bubalik
          kromer
          0
          Today

          Samara previously housed the M.V. Frunze Engine Plant (now PJSC UEC-Kuznetsov). feel


          Frunzenskaya metro stations still exist in Moscow, St. Petersburg, and Minsk.
          1. +8
            16 January 2026 07: 01
            St. Petersburg
            Well, in fact, we still have the Lenin Square village.
        2. +5
          16 January 2026 07: 54
          Hello, Sergey!
          I was wondering, did you photograph the document specifically for Valery or did it just happen?
          1. +4
            16 January 2026 08: 31
            Anton, hello hi !
            Valery once wrote that he was planning an article about Frunze, and I've been wanting to visit this museum for a long time, so I thought I'd write to him, maybe it will be useful.
            1. VLR
              +2
              19 January 2026 08: 14
              Photos taken by Sergey will also be in the last article.
              1. +2
                19 January 2026 09: 15

                +1
                Today, 09
                ,,yes, okay hi
      2. 0
        16 January 2026 14: 26
        Quote from kromer
        In addition to streets, districts and even cities were named after Frunze.
        Here, first of all, we must recall the city of Frunze in the USSR, now Bishkek (the capital of Kyrgyzstan).
        Subjunctive moods, but what would have happened if Frunze had lived on, if his life hadn't ended so dramatically and strangely...
      3. ANB
        +1
        16 January 2026 22: 54
        The Frunze Naval School, located on Vasilievsky Island in Leningrad, was considered one of the primary training facilities for the NK.
      4. +2
        18 January 2026 03: 32
        Bandera's decommunizers must have been sweating profusely, fighting with the name of Comrade Frunze.
    2. +5
      16 January 2026 06: 26
      This is exactly hi
      Lenin Avenue, Kuibyshev Square, Frunze St., Chapaev St., Chapaev Square, Shchors Park, many streets: Korostelev brothers, Artsybushevskaya, Ventsek, Nikolai Panov, Blyukhera, Antonov-Ovseenko, Vilonovskaya, Maria Aveida, Gaya, Sokolov, Maslennikov Avenue, Sergei Lazo St., etc./Samara. Yes
      In my small homeland I grew up on Voroshilova Street, at the intersection with Chapaevskaya Yes
      1. +9
        16 January 2026 09: 15
        M.V. Frunze played an invaluable role in the development of the Ivanovo region as chairman of the Ivanovo-Voznesensk Provincial Executive Committee in 1918.
        On May 2, 1918, he secured the opening of a higher technical school in the city by transferring the evacuated Riga Polytechnic to Ivanovo-Voznesensk. An entire student city with a complete infrastructure—faculty buildings, dormitories for students and faculty, a regional scientific library, student cafeterias, and the first factory kitchen in the USSR—was built for the Ivanovo-Voznesensk Polytechnic, which, according to Frunze's plan, included faculties of chemistry, agriculture, social economics, civil engineering, textiles, forestry, and factory mechanics.
        On May 17, 1930, five independent institutes were created on the basis of the IVPI faculties:
        Ivanovo Institute of Chemical Technology (IKhTI, now IKHTU) - based on the Faculty of Chemistry
        Ivanovo Textile Institute named after M. V. Frunze (IvTI, now the Textile Institute of IVGPU) - based on the textile faculty.
        Ivanovo Power Engineering Institute (IPE, now ISEU) - based on the Faculty of Engineering and Mechanics
        Ivanovo Agricultural Institute (ISHI, now IGSKhA) - based on the agricultural (agronomic) faculty.
        Civil Engineering Institute IASI - based on the Faculty of Architecture and Civil Engineering.

        On December 21, 1918, on the initiative of Frunze, the Ivanovo-Voznesensk Institute of Public Education was established - now Ivanovo State University (IvSU). Under Frunze, Ivanovo was transformed from a provincial town in the Shuya province into a major scientific and industrial center and textile industry center of the RSFSR, and the administrative center of the Ivanovo region.
        photo 1-2 Monument to M.V. Frunze in the center of Ivanovo.
        1. +9
          16 January 2026 09: 22
          photo 1-3 Monument to M.V. Frunze in the center of Ivanovo.
          1. +7
            16 January 2026 09: 40
            Interesting: In the first photo of the previous post, a large marble building can be seen in the right corner of the monument. This is the former 16th-century Trinity-Pokrovsky Monastery, rebuilt in the 1930s into the Ivanovo Bolshoi Drama Theater. Before the construction of the gigantic Novosibirsk Academic Theater in 1945, this building was the largest theater in the country. In the 1980s, due to the lack of demand for so many seats, the Ivanovo Drama Theater was reconstructed and converted into the Palace of Arts, which includes five different theaters, each with its own stage and auditorium.
            1 - This is what it was like in the 30s
            2 - Became this way since the 1980s.
      2. +9
        16 January 2026 11: 26
        In my small homeland I grew up on Voroshilova Street, at the intersection with Chapaevskaya

        Before leaving for my great-grandmother's village in 1974, I grew up for 12 years in the Ivanovo "Tashkent" garrison - on the territory of the Frunzensky district of the city of Ivanovo.
        1. +3
          16 January 2026 14: 10
          Quote: Richard
          in the Frunzensky district

          So do I.

          Frunzensky district, in my opinion, existed in every city, if not
          1. +3
            16 January 2026 14: 46
            Frunzensky district, in my opinion, existed in every city, if not
            ,,,or like this winked
      3. +3
        16 January 2026 14: 07
        Quote: bubalik
        Lenin Avenue, Kuibyshev Square, Frunze St., Chapaev St., Chapaev Square, Shchors Park

        it was everywhere....
        Here, Ostapivska Street intersected with Benderskaya Street—wow...
        1. +2
          16 January 2026 18: 19
          Here, Ostapovskaya Street intersected with Benderskaya Street - wow!

          What's this? We have a whole Shpakovsky district in our region. tongue
          So, I'll help all the Caliber fans on the site organize an exciting, budget-friendly bike trip. laughing
          1. +3
            17 January 2026 10: 42
            If I remember correctly, the Shpakovsky district was named after the hero of the Great Patriotic War, Foma Shpak.
            As is Shpakovskaya Street in Stavropol itself.
            1. +3
              17 January 2026 11: 25
              It's too early for the bike ride participants to know about this. Why ruin the Caliber fans' holiday? We'll announce it at the finish line. laughing
            2. +1
              18 January 2026 13: 07
              Quote: Senior Sailor
              Foma Shpak

              There was a revolutionary movement activist named Shpakovsky in St. Petersburg. I asked ShVO if he was a relative.
              He says no.
    3. +2
      16 January 2026 12: 00
      If the author touches upon Algemba (the Alexandrov Gai-Emba railway), which was built by soldiers of Frunze's Labor Army, it would be interesting.
    4. +1
      16 January 2026 13: 50
      Vladislav, the first three - Vladimir Lenin, Felix Dzerzhinsky, Mikhail Frunze.
      Valery, I'll add that there was even a Frunzensky district in Kharkov.
      1. +1
        16 January 2026 14: 16
        Quote: knn54
        Vladislav, the first three - Vladimir Lenin, Felix Dzerzhinsky, Mikhail Frunze.
        Valery, I'll add that there was even a Frunzensky district in Kharkov.

        Thanks did not know.
  3. +9
    16 January 2026 05: 47
    Thank you, Valery!

    In the descriptions of many people, especially before the revolution, there is an almost standard expression “I had to work part-time as a tutor.”

    But it wasn’t the worst kind of part-time work: both then and now.
    1. +6
      16 January 2026 11: 43
      a fighting squad led by the 20-year-old Bolshevik I. Utkin (the same age as Frunze)

      Utkin's party nickname was Stanko. In the 70s, Ivanovo had a street of the same name, which became a byword among Ivanovo residents due to the regional leather dispensary located there.
  4. +5
    16 January 2026 06: 03
    a fighting squad led by the 20-year-old Bolshevik I. Utkin (the same age as Frunze)
    ).
    Valery, hi

    Looking at age, the saying comes to mind: "He who was not a liberal or a revolutionary in his youth, and he who did not become a conservative in old age, is doubly so."
    1. +5
      16 January 2026 06: 41
      Quote from kromer
      a fighting squad led by the 20-year-old Bolshevik I. Utkin (the same age as Frunze)
      ).
      Valery, hi

      Looking at age, the saying comes to mind: "He who was not a liberal or a revolutionary in his youth, and he who did not become a conservative in old age, is doubly so."


      The site removed the word: fool from the proverb. laughing
      1. +7
        16 January 2026 06: 51
        The site removed the word: fool from the proverb.
        Write the first letter in Latin and luck will smile on you.
        1. +4
          16 January 2026 06: 56
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          The site removed the word: fool from the proverb.
          Write the first letter in Latin and luck will smile on you.


          Right Thanks.
  5. +3
    16 January 2026 07: 06
    This man was an extremely interesting figure among the Bolsheviks. He was one of the most successful commanders of the Civil War. A Leninist in spirit. He distanced himself from Trotsky and maintained his independence from Stalin. And he had no bloodstains.
  6. -6
    16 January 2026 07: 27
    The article is ridiculous.
    The discussions about the revolution are childish, and by the way, quoting Berdyaev is also absurd; he should have been on Solovki, but he was successfully evacuated on a philosophical steamship.
    Regarding the author's reasoning about the self-realization of the proletariat after revolutionary unrest, one can completely agree.
    There are many examples.
    Here is one such example - Nikolai Ivanovich Yezhov was a proletarian during the bloody tsarist regime, with a height of 1 meter 50 cm (with a cap), but he became a famous bloody dwarf.
    Here is a second example of self-realization: Pavel Efimovich Dybenko was a dockworker and a sailor in the Baltic Fleet, but rose to the rank of People's Commissar for Naval Affairs.
    And there are countless examples like this, that is, during any revolution (bloody chaos), all sorts of rabble crawl out of every crack.
    1. +4
      16 January 2026 07: 58
      Quote: bober1982
      During any revolution (bloody chaos), all sorts of rabble comes out of every crack.


      Well, why not? Remember the February Revolution; quite respectable people made the revolution there.
      I'm not even talking about 1825. The cream of Russia was climbing to power there.
      1. -2
        16 January 2026 08: 10
        Quote from kromer
        The cream of Russia was climbing into power there.

        The concept of "cream of society" is very vague, by the way. For example, current representatives of show business, millionaire athletes, high-ranking officials, wealthy businessmen, etc. - in today's times, they are the cream of society.
        And the February Revolution was made by respected people, as you called them - millionaires, liberals of all stripes (Berdyaev also contributed), the generals, the Masons, the Tsar's relatives, writers, etc.
        The Decembrist revolt was absurd, staged by corrupt nobles and aristocrats.
        1. +4
          16 January 2026 08: 57
          Quote: bober1982
          The concept of "cream of society" is very vague,


          But not before the revolution. Back then, these elites represented the most noble families, quite wealthy. Some slut from the Palais Royal couldn't lay claim to that. But now, they can easily.
          1. +2
            16 January 2026 09: 16
            Some slut from the Palais Royal couldn't lay claim to this.
            - Yes? lol
            A whole brood of ballerinas as mistresses for the Romanov family doesn't bother you?
            1. +4
              16 January 2026 09: 18
              Quote: faiver
              A whole brood of ballerinas as mistresses for the Romanov family doesn't bother you?


              Well, don't confuse two different professions. Some are ballerinas, and some are prostitutes.
              1. +2
                16 January 2026 09: 29
                Well, as far as I understand, Nikolai was the first to see no difference... bully
                1. 0
                  16 January 2026 09: 44
                  Quote: faiver
                  Well, as far as I understand, Nikolai was the first to see no difference... bully


                  You know, I don't see the difference either. I use it and forget about it. )))))))))
            2. +2
              16 January 2026 09: 20
              Quote: faiver
              A whole brood of ballerinas as mistresses for the Romanov family doesn't bother you?


              And the ballerinas weren’t high society, not even Kshesinskaya.
              1. 0
                16 January 2026 09: 26
                Eliza Balletta would disagree with you..... bully
                1. +4
                  16 January 2026 09: 38
                  Quote: faiver
                  Eliza Balletta


                  And I'm with her. Eliza Baletta was a Frenchwoman who married Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovich. She was not from the Muravyov-Apostol, Trubetskoy, Ryleyev, and other families.
                  Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovich was from the cream of society, because he was a Romanov. And what groans beneath him is irrelevant.
            3. +8
              16 January 2026 12: 10
              Quote: faiver
              a brood of ballerinas as mistresses for the Romanov family

              And even wives. But only morganatic ones. In principle, they and their offspring were granted nobility. But they weren't exactly high society. More like "demi-monde."
              1. 0
                16 January 2026 12: 15
                My respects to you, yes, there was that Santa Barbara...
              2. +2
                16 January 2026 16: 16
                Quote: Senior Sailor
                But they weren't exactly high society. More like "demi-monde."


                Wow, I spent a long time trying to remember their names. Ladies of the demi-monde.
                1. +6
                  16 January 2026 16: 37
                  Quote from kromer
                  Quote: Senior Sailor
                  But they weren't exactly high society. More like "demi-monde."


                  Wow, I spent a long time trying to remember their names. Ladies of the demi-monde.

                  In St. Petersburg, such people were called "étoiles".
                  Remember the ataman from "Bumbarash" -
                  "Well, what kind of bandit am I! I'm an etoile, my dear, a St. Petersburg etoile!"
          2. +1
            16 January 2026 09: 25
            Quote from kromer
            But not before the revolution. Back then, these cream of the crop were representatives of the most noble families.

            I wouldn't say so, since these representatives had degenerated by February 1917, the list of the cream of society had expanded, and one could probably even include the bohemians of the so-called Silver Age, that is, the rabble had increased significantly.
        2. +3
          16 January 2026 11: 10
          The concept of "cream of society" is very vague, by the way. For example, current representatives of show business, millionaire athletes, deputies, high-ranking officials, wealthy businessmen, etc. - in today's times, they are the cream of society.

          That's right, Vladimir Alekseevich, they are the cream of the crop. And they're not the elite of society, but the cream of society. We've simply forgotten the very definition of the term "cream of the crop":
          Cream is a product obtained from whole milk by separating the fat fraction, when, due to the subsidence and depletion of the remaining fractions of whole cow's milk, the fractions containing the highest percentage of fat accumulate in the upper layers of whole cow's milk (c)

          IMHO, you can’t describe millionaires better than those from business, show business, sports, parliament, and government.
          1. +4
            16 January 2026 14: 27
            IMHO, you can’t describe millionaires better than those from business, show business, sports, parliament, and government.

            I'll make you smile, Dima!
            Personally, I had different associations - ... shit doesn't sink in an ice hole.
            laughing
      2. +5
        16 January 2026 08: 19
        1825 year.
        This is not a revolution, but the last baronial rebellion in history.
        1. +2
          16 January 2026 08: 28
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          1825 year.
          This is not a revolution, but the last baronial rebellion in history.


          1905 was also a rebellion, if you look at it that way, but it was still a revolution. If only soldiers had marched in 1825, they'd be calling it a revolution now. But as it was, the elite were at the forefront.
          1. +1
            16 January 2026 08: 40
            1905 was also a riot if you look at it that way,
            Essentially, yes.
            "Mutiny cannot end in luck,
            Otherwise, his name is different."
            1. +4
              16 January 2026 08: 53
              As they say in one film: "A putsch is a failed revolution, and a revolution is a successful putsch" (c) ))))
        2. +2
          16 January 2026 08: 40
          "Well, when was that..." Glukhov said. "Barons, you know, get old..."
          “Barons also fight,” Vecherovsky said.
    2. +3
      16 January 2026 09: 22
      The article is, in fact, very informative—to the point, without fluff, written very clearly, in good language, and without much emotion. Your comment, however, with its attempt to "cleanse the black dog of autocracy" and the odd translation from Frunze to Yezhov and Dybenko, comes across as helpless and absurd.
      1. -3
        16 January 2026 09: 29
        Quote: vet
        and a strange translation from Frunze to Yezhov and Dybenko

        Nothing strange, I simply developed the author’s thesis about the successful self-realization of individuals during and after the bloody riots.
  7. 0
    16 January 2026 07: 48
    Away from the hero of the article!
    Yet, no matter how much they say there are no double standards in our country, this simply isn't true. Let's consider the following situation theoretically. Take that same idiotic Navalny as an example. He wouldn't have been drinking with women in pubs and bathhouses; instead, having studied the experience of our "revolutionary" ancestors, he would have followed their path. He would have formed cells, attacked police officers, spread illegal goods, armed groups... Basically, he would have done everything the hero of this article did. How would today's authorities and society have reacted to this? Okay, society is mixed... There were those who supported him. Would our children and grandchildren view him as a fiery revolutionary fighting for the people's happiness, or as a common criminal?
    All this speaks to the weakness of the government and its laws. The liberality of the government under Nicholas was even greater than ours in the 90s.
    Frunze truly was an extraordinary figure in the entire Bolshevik cabal. He ultimately paid for it. And no matter how much they tried to paint him as a proletarian, he was not. His mother, despite all her financial difficulties, managed to provide her children with an education. And a good one at that. This inevitably influenced his own worldview, which differed from that of Lenin, for example. But more on that later.
    1. +7
      16 January 2026 08: 31
      All this speaks to the weakness of the government and its laws. The liberality of the government under Nicholas was even greater than ours in the 90s.

      Such assessments are a modernization of the historical process. Because they are a view from today, not from that period.
      Back then, life for most prisoners, in terms of food, amenities, and even heating, was worse than it is now for those in correctional labor camps. Six years of hard labor were often enough to get you going.
      The use of violence by law enforcement agencies is now extremely strictly limited, more likely to be a no-no than a yes. Beating someone with fists, rifle butts, and whatever else is available is encouraged and normal. Or, well, rape, like Maria Spiridonova.
      Well, the use of lethal force by army units against unarmed demonstrations was, of course, the height of liberalism, but we are not only talking about Russia of this period.
      1. 0
        16 January 2026 08: 51
        Violence against women in places of detention existed during Soviet times, and I think it still exists today.
        I retired as the head of a maximum-security penal colony. I know what I'm talking about. And about correctional labor camps, too.
        1. +6
          16 January 2026 09: 38
          I agree with you on this matter.
          There's a first time for everything; Spiridonova's case rocked Russian educated society.

          But the regime of Nicholas II was not liberal, and he was not a liberal, a gentle family man - yes, but not liberal, these are not synonyms.
          And he was just “strangling, strangling”, “strangling, strangling” the liberals.
          But you can’t argue with the development of productive forces...The system of feudal governance (monarchy) had become obsolete by 1914.
          1. -2
            16 January 2026 11: 34
            Everything is relative. It's enough to compare the number of death sentences handed down to political prisoners during Nicholas's reign and during the same Soviet period.
      2. -7
        16 January 2026 14: 58
        Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
        Then beating someone with fists, rifle butts, and whatever else is at hand is encouraged and normal. Or raping them, like Maria Spiridonova.

        This was in the USSR in the 30s-50s, and in Russia, where corporal punishment is prohibited, Zasulich shot Trepov for knocking off a prisoner's hat.
        M. Spiridonova was not raped - she herself has denied it more than once.
        Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
        In six years of hard labor, it was often possible to "get your skates going."

        You're confusing it with the USSR again, where you have to cut down 8-10 m3 for 500 grams of bread, if you don't do it, you get 300 grams of bread, it's a prison cell, sabotage, the end.

        Women prisoners in the USSR were raped everywhere—investigations, prisons, camps—see Kolyma Tram, Glinka E. S. The Hold, or the Big "Kolyma Tram"-I don't know who will be able to read it to the end...
        Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
        Heating conditions were worse than those in correctional labor camps now. During six years of hard labor, it was often possible to "get your skates going."

        Yes, yes, the same KILLER and terrorist Spiridonova is an example:
        She was assigned to the Nerchinsk mines, the Akatuy penal prison (approximately 600 kilometers from Chita). Along the route to their prison, the convicted Socialist Revolutionaries were greeted by the local community as celebrities. Here is a ceremonial welcome for Maria Spiridonova, Maria Shkolnik, Anastasia Bitsenko, Alexandra Izmailovich, Revekka Fialka, and Lidiya Yezerskaya at the Omsk railway station on June 30, 1906, during their transfer to their prison.

        The happy soldiers and officers of the convoy took photos with them “as a souvenir”:

        The life of political prisoners there was free: they were kept together, separately from criminal prisoners, the regime was lenient – Regular walks in the forest and multi-day visits with relatives outside the prison, with accommodation in apartments, were allowed

        HOW they tormented and shot her in the USSR - that's something, and she didn't kill anyone and didn't call for anything...
        1. mz
          +2
          16 January 2026 19: 09
          Quote: Olgovich

          This was in the USSR in the 30s-50s, and in Russia, where corporal punishment is prohibited, Zasulich shot Trepov for knocking off a prisoner's hat.

          However, in the Russian Empire, extrajudicial killings and terrorizing people (including those who simply caught their eye) were not prohibited, including men, women, and children, as, for example, during the punitive expeditions of the Semenovsky Regiment (under the command of Colonel Riman) or Rennenkampf and Meller-Zakomelsky. In these expeditions, people were shot, beaten with rifle butts, and stabbed with bayonets. And Bloody Sunday also falls into this category. Corporal punishment, however, was supposedly prohibited...
          1. -6
            17 January 2026 12: 19
            Quote: mz
            However, in the Russian Empire, extrajudicial killings and terror of people were not prohibited.

            and there is no shame in comparing... THOUSANDS of anti-Soviet uprisings were drenched in the blood of women and children - from 1917 to 1933 - Antonov, Sapozhkov, tens of thousands in 1930-with artillery, etc.
    2. +6
      16 January 2026 08: 41
      Double standards exist almost everywhere.

      In the exact sciences it is rather difficult with them.
  8. +5
    16 January 2026 08: 43
    open the way for talented people who had no chance of self-realization under the old regime.

    I'm afraid Mikhail Vasilyevich isn't the best example here. Because the "old regime" did give him the opportunity to get an education for the purpose of subsequent "self-realization"... But his self-realization turned out to be a peculiar one.
    It is curious that when the private museum of the manufacturer Dmitry Burylin was nationalized, Frunze appointed the former owner as its director and left part of the house at his disposal.

    In 1923, while Frunze was still alive, Burylin was falsely accused of concealing museum valuables, subjected to a search, and removed from his position as museum curator. He died in 1924.
    This is so, by the way ...
    1. +1
      16 January 2026 09: 25
      In 1923, that is, while Frunze was still alive, Burylin was falsely accused of concealing museum valuables.

      Are you 100% sure it's false? He could very well have hidden something of particular interest. And was merely removed from office. While Frunze was alive—but did Frunze himself know about it? Was he that concerned?
      1. +2
        16 January 2026 12: 06
        Quote: vet
        Are you 100% sure it's false? He could very well have hidden something of particular interest.

        All his property was confiscated.
        https://ivarh.ru/virtualnye-vystavki/-velikiy-sobiratel-drevnostey-k-170-letiyu-so-dnya-rojdeniya-dmitriya-gennadevicha-burylina-1106
        Quote: vet
        And he was merely removed from office.

        What humanism! They could have...
        Quote: vet
        But did Frunze himself know about this?

        And if he didn’t know, then are local authorities allowed to do all sorts of crazy things?
    2. +5
      16 January 2026 12: 06
      In 1923, that is, while Frunze was still alive, Burylin was falsely accused of concealing museum valuables, subjected to a search and removed from his position as museum curator.

      There's no smoke without fire, Ivan. Burylin, if I'm not mistaken, built his house and the local history museum building opposite his mansion simultaneously. The two buildings were connected by an underground passage. It was the discovery of this passage that led to Burylin's dismissal and the charges brought against him.
      1. +7
        16 January 2026 12: 16
        So, he was apparently evicted from the house and not allowed to move in, despite the fact that the house itself was unoccupied. No?
        1. +3
          16 January 2026 12: 29
          Unfortunately, I don't know this.
      2. +5
        16 January 2026 12: 17
        Ivan, could you please tell me something? I've almost forgotten. Was the Burylin Museum free for schoolchildren in the 70s? We were often taken there in elementary school. I really enjoyed it.
        1. +7
          16 January 2026 12: 25
          Quote: Richard
          Ivan, please

          I would be happy to help, but, alas, I have never been to the homeland of my ancestors. request
          I was born and raised in the Magadan region, studied in Ossetia, served in Sevastopol, and live in Kuban, but I've never had the chance to connect with my roots. However, God willing, I might yet...
          1. +8
            16 January 2026 12: 44
            I left Ivanovo in 1974, my wife in 1986. When we went there a few years ago for my mother-in-law's birthday, we were both unpleasantly surprised. The old, cozy city of our childhood, where everything was familiar, had lost its charm and identity, turning into endless blocks of uniform high-rise buildings.
  9. +3
    16 January 2026 08: 53
    A Mauser, a Browning, and two carbines were found in his apartment. He apparently resisted arrest.

    Initially, Frunze was sentenced to four years of hard labor, but then, for his participation in the assassination attempt on police officer Perlov, he was sentenced to death.
    However, thanks to the efforts of attorney A. Ern, State Duma deputy from the Constitutional Democrats party M. Chelnokov, and professors from the Polytechnic Institute, the death penalty was commuted to 6 years of hard labor.

    The bloody tsarist regime...
    I wonder how many sentences they'd get in court in these "liberal" times for such a list of charges (possession of weapons, resistance, possibly terrorism)?
    It feels like Nicholas himself wanted to be taken down; all the various revolutionaries and rockers of the boat were patted on the head for a long time, and this in the absence of a moratorium on the death penalty...
    1. +5
      16 January 2026 10: 56
      Nikolai himself wanted to be overthrown, along with all the various revolutionaries and rockers

      Dear Anatoly, you have some confusion here.
      In 1917, it wasn't Nicholas II who was overthrown personally, but the feudal system of government—the monarchy—that was completely dismantled. This would have happened under Nicholas II, or, for example, under someone like his father, though perhaps more bloodily, one might think... but they would certainly have been overthrown, like his uncle, Wilhelm, or Charles I, or the Sultan of Turkey at the time...
      As for weapons, they could simply be purchased in a store or even secondhand, following the established tradition in the Russian Empire: nobility and weapons were inseparable. There were some legal restrictions, and they became somewhat more stringent in the early 20th century, but they certainly weren't punishable by years in prison or fines. Roughly the same as in the US. Plus, the price of weapons wasn't affordable for commoners.
    2. +5
      16 January 2026 11: 32
      Quote: Gvardeetz77
      It feels like Nicholas himself wanted to be taken down; all the various revolutionaries and rockers of the boat were patted on the head for a long time, and this in the absence of a moratorium on the death penalty...

      But in the end, he was overthrown by completely different people - respectable gentlemen in expensive suits and polished officers who were not dragged through the courts or sent to hard labor, but on the contrary were considered the elite and support of the throne. smile
  10. +1
    16 January 2026 10: 01
    Author! The best commander at the head of a team of military experts—generals and colonels of the General Staff of the Tsarist army, who, in Frunze's absence, could also command the fronts?
  11. -12
    16 January 2026 10: 01
    Frunze (Frunzee)
    No, the surname came from a Moldovan/Romanian word. frunză "leaf" -Frunze
    ,
    Revolutions are invariably accompanied by great sacrifices, they open the way for talented people who did not have the opportunity under the old regime no chance for self-realization

    lol The author doesn't read herself: it was Frunze who gave ALL poor children the path to excellent general and higher education and brilliant prospects. Russia (see article).

    But the fact that she destroyed and threw out many talents is true - the world's first experimental television broadcast was carried out in 1911 Boris Rosing, destroyed by the "advanced" formation, we read the Secretary of the USSR Academy of Sciences Oldenburg about the imprisoned and executed scientists, A. Sikosky, Zvorykin, etc.
    And even the REMNANTS of the destroyed science were enough to train Soviet scientists and engineers. And what potential!

    not to the stop development of the state and society, but, on the contrary, to a leap forward,

    Yeah, let's read WHAT happened in "backward Russia" in relation to the bandit and terrorist (countless armed attacks on the authorities) Frunze:
    Thanks to the efforts of attorney A. Ern, State Duma deputy from the Constitutional Democrats party M. Chelnokov, and professors from the Polytechnic Institute, the death penalty was commuted to 6 years of hard labor.
    In "developed" societies, people were shot for crimes against livestock.
    Development of the state and society

    what is the deepest development of society:
    Pionerska Pravda, 38:
    Thanks to Nikolai Ivanovich Yezhov
    ASYA LINSKAYA, VALYA MYZINA. Moscow, School No. 272, 5th grade "A".
    Dear Nikolai Ivanovich! Yesterday we read in the newspapers the verdict against a gang of right-wing Trotskyist spies and murderers. We would like to express our sincere thanks to you and all the vigilant members of the People's Commissariat of Internal Affairs.
    Thank you, Comrade Yezhov, for catching the gang of lurking fascists who wanted to rob us of our happy childhoods. Thank you for smashing and destroying these viper's nests.
    We kindly ask you to take care of yourself. After all, the Berry snake tried to sting VaYour life and health are needed by our country and by us, Soviet guys.
    We strive to be as brave, vigilant, and implacable towards all enemies of the workers as you, dear comrade Yezhov!

    States: twos, threes, albums, Moscow trials, lyceum cases, the Kremlin, academies, etc. abomination...
    1. +5
      16 January 2026 10: 15
      surname, derived from the Moldovan/Romanian word frunză "leaf" -Frunze

      If you look at Wikipedia (the source is so-so, but still), it turns out that Frunze is written in Moldavian, but until 1919 he himself wrote his last name as Frunzee.
      As for Russia's (the USSR's) monumental leap forward, it's simply foolish to deny it. Even Churchill didn't deny it. Yes, there were casualties, but without this arduous and costly industrialization, Russia simply wouldn't exist today. And to this day, in all the former republics, and in Russia itself, the Soviet legacy is being squandered.
  12. -6
    16 January 2026 10: 46
    The enemies of the USSR are impenetrable in their mental malice and hatred, including the fact that they raged against the Bolsheviks in threads about the White Guards, and that in threads about the Bolsheviks, they rage against them. And their discussion of current events in the country and the world also instills malice and hatred.
    1. +5
      16 January 2026 16: 19
      Quote: tatra
      The enemies of the USSR are impenetrable in their mental malice and hatred, including the fact that they raged against the Bolsheviks in threads about the White Guards, and that in threads about the Bolsheviks, they rage against them. And their discussion of current events in the country and the world also instills malice and hatred.


      A thought flashed through my mind. Excuse me, but are you drunk?
      1. +4
        16 January 2026 16: 46
        Valery, don't pay any attention, she's the local crazy woman.
        1. +4
          16 January 2026 16: 49
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          Valery, don't pay any attention, she's the local crazy woman.


          Yes, Tatra is a well-known face, but I used to think she was crazy. But she doesn't quite look crazy. Although, maybe she's a mix (several in one).
  13. +1
    16 January 2026 11: 25
    The father of the article's hero was a native of the village of Zakharovka in the Kherson province.
    Father is Romanian, a native of Tiraspol district
    At first, Frunze was sentenced to four years of hard labor, but then, for his participation in the assassination attempt on police officer Perlov, he was sentenced to death.
    However, thanks to the efforts of attorney A. Ern, State Duma deputy from the Constitutional Democrats party M. Chelnokov, and professors from the Polytechnic Institute, the death penalty was commuted to 6 years of hard labor (taking into account the previously imposed sentence of 10 years).
    An example of the "bloody tsarist regime" is a criminal convicted of armed rebellion and committing a terrorist act against a government official (future Article 58-8), who jumps from the prison tower to ten years of imprisonment, of which he served less than eight.
    The Bolsheviks were not so humane.
  14. +7
    16 January 2026 11: 29
    The main point of the article: Frunze had no connection with the Army until the Civil War. He never even commanded a squad. wink
    1. +3
      16 January 2026 11: 37
      Quote: Arzt
      The main point of the article: Frunze had no connection with the Army until the Civil War. He never even commanded a squad. wink

      A talented person is talented in everything...
      1. -1
        16 January 2026 12: 06
        Quote: Konnick
        A talented person is talented in everything...

        A talented person in Russia cannot be clean.
        A. Chekhov
        1. +4
          16 January 2026 12: 14
          Quote: bober1982
          Quote: Konnick
          A talented person is talented in everything...

          A talented person in Russia cannot be clean.
          A. Chekhov

          ...let he who is without sin cast a stone...
          1. +3
            16 January 2026 12: 25
            Quote: Konnick
            ...let he who is without sin cast a stone...

            Think about it: how many interesting, talented and intelligent people we meet in life.
            A. Kuprin
            If you read the entire series of white-red articles by the authors, you will see that there are only talented people there.
            What always makes me laugh (nothing to do with the author) is when a pilot is called talented somewhere, it’s just a laughing matter.
      2. +2
        17 January 2026 10: 51
        Quote: Konnick
        A talented person is talented in everything...

        A common misconception. Generalists are rare. Much more common are situations where people with undeniable talent in one area are woefully incompetent in others.
        1. 0
          17 January 2026 11: 34
          Quote: Senior Sailor
          Quote: Konnick
          A talented person is talented in everything...

          A common misconception. Generalists are rare. Much more common are situations where people with undeniable talent in one area are woefully incompetent in others.

          You're confusing talent with competence. A talented person analyzes better, builds better logical chains, and compensates for competence with better learning ability.
          1. +2
            17 January 2026 11: 44
            You're now imitating the author of the post, who, with a straight face, claimed that Peter III was a good tsar because he could play the violin)))
            There are countless examples. Talented musicians and singers often have absolutely no idea about politics or business. Although, in their own little sandbox, they sometimes plot intrigues that rival Richelieu's.
            There have been cases when talented and even brilliant artists could not sell a single one of their paintings.
            A talented chess player, despite incredible analytical and logical abilities, can be a complete idiot off the chessboard.
            And so on.
            Quote: Konnick
            A talented person analyzes better and builds better logical chains.

            But it doesn't always succeed, because it often relies heavily on false premises. It then turns out that within its own framework, it's flawless, but those frameworks have no connection to reality.
            In any case, there are more than enough talented people who ended their days in complete poverty.
            1. +1
              17 January 2026 12: 14
              I don't consider people with disabilities talented, they are simply unique in their chosenness. Talent needs to be enhanced and developed.
            2. -2
              17 January 2026 12: 28
              Quote: Senior Sailor
              there are more than enough talented people who ended their days in utter poverty

              they were talented beggars Yes
  15. +3
    16 January 2026 11: 46
    By destroying rather than rebuilding the existing state system, old traditions, and the old way of life, revolutions invariably result in heavy casualties. However, by destroying a long-established, degenerate, and ineffective elite, they open the way for talented individuals who had no chance of self-realization under the old regime.
    Was it Mikhail Frunze who had no chance for self-realization?
    A child from a poor family, from the very bottom, graduates from high school, then enters the St. Petersburg Polytechnic Institute, and this is called "there was no chance for self-realization"?
    He might not have become smitten with revolutionary ideas, and perhaps would have later become a capable engineer and even a Stalin Prize laureate, if he had not been jailed for sabotage earlier. laughing
    1. 0
      17 January 2026 08: 14
      perhaps he would have later become a competent engineer

      An engineer in Tsarist Russia and a People's Commissar in the USSR—the difference is more than obvious. And even the Whites never said they became ministers undeservedly.
      1. +1
        17 January 2026 10: 48
        Quote: vet
        An engineer in Tsarist Russia and a People's Commissar in the USSR - the difference is more than obvious.

        You can't argue with that... The first ones weren't shot for no reason))
      2. +1
        17 January 2026 13: 35
        An engineer in Tsarist Russia and a People's Commissar in the USSR - the difference is more than obvious.

        I don't quite understand how your remark relates to my comment, but I completely agree with its content - it's more than obvious. drinks
        1. 0
          17 January 2026 13: 56
          Regarding his chances for self-realization, under the Tsar, Frunze had no chance of becoming Minister of Defense.
          1. +2
            17 January 2026 13: 58
            Would he need it?
            There seems to be no information anywhere that becoming a military man was his most cherished dream since childhood.
            The fact that it became a non-profit organization during the USSR was a coincidence.
            1. -1
              17 January 2026 14: 01
              Given his abilities and achievements, military service was Frunze's primary purpose in life. Like many of Napoleon's humble marshals.
              1. 0
                17 January 2026 14: 26
                This is a purely hypothetical assumption with a large degree of doubt.
                Frunze came to the position of NKO, having advanced not through the military, but through the party line, as Voroshilov did after him.
                It is unlikely that it will be possible to determine exactly how talented he was as a military leader.
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                  17 January 2026 14: 45
                  Precisely military! And not a single White general ever spoke disparagingly of Frunze—everyone recognized his talent. Commissars advanced along party lines. Voroshilov also had extensive military experience, and his first adversary was the Germans in Donbas. Then he commanded the 5th Army, the Tsaritsyn Group of Forces, was deputy commander and member of the Military Council of the Southern Front, then commanded the 10th and 14th Armies, and so on. Where is the party line here? A combat commander.
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                    17 January 2026 15: 24
                    And not one of the white generals ever spoke disparagingly of Frunze.
                    Maybe because they've never heard of it?
                    Or maybe you haven’t heard such comments from white generals?
                    Commissars advanced through the party.
                    So he started out as a commissar... Frunze is a typical example of advancement along the party line.
                    Before the October Revolution, he did not serve a single day in the army.
                    His military career began only after the October Revolution with the post of district military Commissioner Yaroslavl Military District. He was then appointed commander of an army group, and then of a front commander.
                    If he had not been a prominent Bolshevik with pre-war experience, he would never have made such a dizzying military career.
                    1. VLR
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                      17 January 2026 15: 36
                      Not a single one of the White generals ever spoke disparagingly of Frunze

                      Maybe because they've never heard of it?

                      Believe me, we've heard! We'll cover this in future articles.
                    2. +1
                      17 January 2026 15: 39
                      If he had not been a prominent Bolshevik with pre-war experience, he would never have made such a dizzying military career.

                      He would never have had such a dizzying military career if he had not had the ability and talent.
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                        17 January 2026 15: 42
                        Well, of course, if he had been Sharikov, he would hardly have reached such high positions - there is no dispute about that.
                        But the crux of the matter is not his mental abilities, but the fact that the most important guarantee of the success of his military career was that he was a prominent Bolshevik with pre-revolutionary experience, and not a highly qualified military specialist.
                        Simply put, if he had not been an old Bolshevik, he would never have become a People's Commissar.
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                      18 January 2026 11: 40
                      Quote: Marrr
                      And not one of the white generals ever spoke disparagingly of Frunze.
                      Maybe because

                      Do you really think that your opponent did a great job studying the White Guards' reviews of Frunze and only then came to the conclusion he declared?
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                        18 January 2026 11: 45
                        Of course, I don't think so. My opponent is thinking in terms of Soviet historiography, and I think this will become even more obvious in the second part.
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            18 January 2026 11: 45
            Quote: vet
            Under the Tsar, Frunze did not have the slightest chance of becoming Minister of Defense.

            And for two reasons at once. 1) such a position simply didn't exist; there were separate War and Naval Ministries. 2) To become a high-ranking military officer, you had to (can you imagine the horror?) serve in the army.
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              18 January 2026 14: 20
              Yes, yes, we remember how Nicholas II's generals and ministers, who "served in the army," lost outright to everyone: the Japanese, the Germans, the Austrians, and the Red Army commanders, who lacked a military education. And we remember how Bonaparte's rootless, military-uneducated marshals crushed "educated" generals like Mack. And you, however, continue to be captivated by your illusions about the "Russia we lost," yearning for balls with the cadets and the crunch of a French roll.
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                18 January 2026 17: 05
                Quote: vet
                Yes, yes, we remember how the generals and ministers of Nicholas II, who "served in the army," lost outright to everyone in a row: to the Japanese, the Germans and Austrians, and to the Red commanders who had no military education.

                To the hyped-up red commanders or to the inconspicuous military experts?
                Quote: vet
                And we remember how Bonaparte's rootless marshals, who had no military education, completely crushed "educated" generals like Mack.

                A bad example, even for someone as ignorant as you. Firstly, they still lost those wars. Secondly, Bonaparte himself did have a military education.
                Quote: vet
                And you continue to be captivated by your illusions about the “Russia we lost,” yearning for balls with cadets and the crunch of French bread.

                Without labels, right?))
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                  19 January 2026 10: 48
                  Quote: Senior Sailor
                  To the hyped-up red commanders or to the inconspicuous military experts?

                  Both. Sometimes it seems as if for the Whites, this wasn't a war, but some kind of "reasoning for the arrogant mob," like in 1905. So they didn't take it seriously, regularly violating everything they'd learned during the three years of WWI. Most, judging by the defense of Crimea, had given up on the war altogether. And as the war progressed, the Reds became an increasingly inconvenient adversary.
  16. +1
    16 January 2026 13: 21
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    Revolution always shows that those in power have not fulfilled their purpose.
    Serious warning....

    Vain hopes... The Kremlin ones have dispersed everyone else and now hear only themselves.
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    16 January 2026 14: 59
    Interesting article, thanks Yes However, it's never mentioned, although it seems obvious, that much of what the article's subject accomplished would have been impossible without the Party's help. He was sent to various places, supplied with documents, and so on. Most likely, he became a professional revolutionary in that very year, 1905, when he wrote his farewell letter to his mother.
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      17 January 2026 08: 16
      Of course, not a single person—a party member. But how many party members were there, and how many of them became outstanding military leaders?
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        17 January 2026 12: 23
        Of course, personal qualities played a huge role here. Yes I think the party leadership of that time knew how to understand people, directing them to different areas of the struggle.
  18. 0
    17 January 2026 16: 34
    The picture of "Bloody Sunday" bears little resemblance to the truth, much like the storming of the Winter Palace in "Lenin in October."
    The shooting of the workers' march with their families took place not on Palace Square, with the Admiralty in the background, but at the Narva Gate (Narvskaya Zastava)—rather, against the backdrop of the triumphal arch. Workers from the Putilov factory had marched from their neighborhood and gathered near the Tashkent tavern, which now houses the Children's Art Center in the 9th of January Garden. They attended various handicraft and other clubs, one of which was led by Grigory Gapon, under police supervision.
    And they didn't go far, just two blocks along Peterhof Highway (now Stachek Avenue at this location), where a line of garrison soldiers opened fire on the procession. It would have been another four or five kilometers to the Palace Square from there. And, by the way, even if they had made it, the Tsar wasn't in the Winter Palace; he spent practically his entire reign living elsewhere—in Gatchina, Livadia, somewhere else entirely—but not at his "registered address."
    By the way, the Garden of January 9th on the Stachek side is now fenced with authentic wrought iron bars from the fence of the Winter Palace, only on almost all sections the double-headed eagles and monograms of Nicholas II have been broken out of the middle, although they are still present in a couple of spans.
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      17 January 2026 16: 42
      So, a painting is not a photograph, and the artist probably wasn't there. It's probably an "impression" of the impression made on the artist by stories about this tragedy.
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    18 January 2026 11: 49
    Quote: VlR
    Not a single one of the White generals ever spoke disparagingly of Frunze

    Maybe because they've never heard of it?

    Believe me, we've heard! We'll cover this in future articles.
    I seriously doubt that the second part of your article will be even slightly better than the first in terms of the level of elaboration and understanding of historical material.
    Military historian Vyacheslav Mosunov once made a curious statement: we are all, to one degree or another, under the shadow of Soviet historiography.
    And this depth has completely overwhelmed you – you think in terms of Soviet historical axioms, and it doesn’t even occur to you to doubt their truth.
    This is quite clear from your absurd statement, which provides the key to understanding your level of research:
    In this article we will begin the story of Mikhail Vasilyevich Frunze (Frunzee), who, without having a military education, became the best Soviet commander of the civil war...

    But there's also good news: the overwhelming majority of the site's current readership will welcome your work. Because it, too, is completely obscured by Soviet historiography.
    1. -1
      18 January 2026 14: 16
      White Guard and monarchist ideas had a chance to be revived under Yeltsin and even, until recently, under his successors, Putin and Medvedev. So what? The attempt at revenge, a "pole shift," failed miserably. People who received huge sums of money for anti-communist and anti-Soviet projects, and received awards for denigrating Soviet history, all turned out to be traitors, and it became clear to everyone that anti-communism, anti-Sovietism, and Russophobia are synonymous. If you want to be in the camp of the "eternal formers" and "forever losers," then continue to praise the defeated "Lieutenant Golitsyns" and the heroic Kolchaks without any alternatives. Adequate people will side with the people who defeated them, defeated them, and threw them out of the country as unnecessary—like Frunze, for example.
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        18 January 2026 14: 20
        If you want to be in the camp of the "eternal formers" and "forever losers," continue to praise the defeated "Lieutenant Golitsyns" without any options.
        You are not opposing me, but your impression that arose after reading the text I wrote.
        I don't want to be in any camp, I just understand history using a philosophical approach, trying to evaluate events objectively and don't fill your head with Soviet historical axioms.