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China is trying to catch up with the US aircraft carrier and stealth fighters

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China is trying to catch up with the US aircraft carrier and stealth fightersThe Carnegie Foundation Research Center (USA) 3 in May released a report entitled “2030. China’s military power and the US-Japan alliance, which says that in the next 15-20 years, the technological gap between China and the US in the construction of aircraft carriers and stealth fighters will be reduced.


With the increasing power of China’s manufacturing industry, this country could more sharply oppose Washington’s policies in the Asia-Pacific region, but the Carnegie Foundation is confident that China will not repeat the mistakes of the Soviet Union and become America’s global enemy.

The report states that China and the United States are very interdependent economically, so Beijing is unlikely to resort to military force, but the US hegemony will gradually decrease and a “balanced state” will be established in the future. Both countries will pursue policies that will not slide into the Cold War.

The status and role of Japan in the Asia-Pacific region deserve attention and discussion, the report says. After defeat in the Second World War, Japan became dependent on a military alliance with the United States. The growing power of China can even more closely unite the US-Japan military alliance. New Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has taken a tough stance against China, but the financial crisis and political paralysis may prevent Tokyo from pursuing such a policy. Some American politicians want Japan to invest more in the defense budget. The greatest danger in this region will be a possible transition to the military phase of the territorial dispute between Beijing and Tokyo. The Carnegie Foundation believes that China will try to avoid armed conflict.

Former US Ambassador to China John Huntsman said the Asian century has come and forecasts regarding the prospects for world politics should be based on the growth of China’s military power. Former commander of the pacific fleet US Admiral Blair said he did not completely agree with the conclusions of the report and noted that the interaction between China, Japan and the United States would determine the future of the Asia-Pacific region and the role of each of them.

photo - a prototype of the Chinese fighter J-20 (“Japanese professional media” write that this fighter does not fully meet the requirements of the fifth generation)
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  1. Scythian 35
    Scythian 35 6 May 2013 11: 14 New
    +7
    A parody of the plane, correctly said "will be reduced" but no more. If at a given moment they could not create a fourth generation, then let them dream of a fifth.
    1. Russian
      Russian 6 May 2013 11: 58 New
      +3
      And in America, you might think that everything is perfect with the 5th generation? In the parallel branch, F-22 is just being discussed, he did not take part in any clashes, and I am generally silent about the F-35! Cut the century. So they will catch up sooner or later with such motivation, do not hesitate!
      1. Refund_SSSR
        Refund_SSSR 6 May 2013 14: 43 New
        +1
        At least in the USA, everything is awesome with the 4th generation.
        With engines and with elemental base more than on the level.
        China in this regard, both to the moon on foot and back .. no matter how the economy grows, but China's lag is still very far .. So far ..
        1. elmi
          elmi 6 May 2013 15: 10 New
          +2
          China to catch up with the United States in terms of the number of combat aircraft without our engines will be so easy. And their engines have a small resource, so the Chinese will probably continue to practice copying and buy our engines.
    2. Zerstorer
      Zerstorer 6 May 2013 12: 55 New
      0
      And J-10 to which generation do you attribute?
      1. Refund_SSSR
        Refund_SSSR 6 May 2013 14: 45 New
        0
        a copy of the Israeli fighter brought to mind by MiG specialists and Saturns? Is that a joke? laughing
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    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 6 May 2013 14: 59 New
      +2
      About Chinese military spending and modernization ..

      to enlarge click on the picture


      I sometimes get the impression that we often do not quite correctly understand the history and development of the PLA and the military-industrial complex of China, often comparing them with the development of the Soviet army and military-industrial complex of the USSR, etc. However, such comparisons are fundamentally wrong. After a century of military defeats, revolts, revolutions, unrest, civil wars, etc. The CCP took power in an extremely poor and torn country with a weak backward industry, etc. Even despite the very great Soviet assistance in the 1950s, the PRC still possessed a very modest military-industrial and scientific potential, in comparison with the USSR and other leading countries. The military doctrine adopted by the PLA at that time, with emphasis on a massive semi-guerrilla war, also actually reflected the country's military-technical base.
      Subsequent development was also extremely difficult, and the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution took place very painfully in the scientific, technical and industrial potential of the PRC, and then economic reforms began, which required a sharp reduction in government spending. This is often forgotten, but the costs of the PLA, defense industry, military development, etc. were in China in the 1980s and 90s greatly curtailed, which had a very negative effect on many military projects launched in those years. In fact, only in recent years, the PLA began to receive enough funds for the development of a modern army of this size, many enterprises of the military-industrial complex were modernized, etc. The renewal of the military equipment fleet is now proceeding rapidly, but the PLA is still armed with a lot of very outdated equipment and its replacement will require even greater growth in military spending and many years of work.

      The following chart with data from www.globalsecurity.org illustrates the increase in the official size of the PRC military budget from 1989 to 2012. Even taking into account the presence of hidden costs, this diagram shows well that a sharp increase in military spending began around the mid-2000s. In 2013, the defense budget increased by another 10,7% and amounted to 720,2 billion yuan, that is, approximately $ 116 billion.

      Source: http://imp-navigator.livejournal.com/
  2. NAV-STAR
    NAV-STAR 6 May 2013 11: 14 New
    +5
    The next public lasky-masyaski, and true intentions are hidden behind 7 seals.
  3. domovoi
    domovoi 6 May 2013 11: 17 New
    -1
    one thing is clear - Russia is not in business. from a world empire turned into a rag. even Israel can not scare ... but well done China. but still stupid - p.p.dosy print money, and while this continues, trying to catch up with them is useless and stupid
    1. UFO
      UFO 6 May 2013 11: 33 New
      +3
      Even somehow it’s not funny at all. what And about printing "dead presidents" - China is "playing its own game", it can bring down the Fed in one minute, as the largest creditor of the States, arming itself - that means it’s getting ready for it (the States are not repaying debts!), Then there WILL BE WAR! And for Russia, of course, it’s a shame, but there’s still time, if only we had time to recover! soldier
      1. domovoi
        domovoi 6 May 2013 12: 13 New
        +4
        and who said it would be funny? China may collapse, but does not, because there is no alternative. about the restoration of Russia-will not have time. and, apparently, no one is particularly interested in this ... after all, the United States chose the right tactics - what they want to do, and who the hell will tell them across the word. and about Russia already who only has not wiped his feet, but she expresses all her concern ..
        1. bootlegger
          bootlegger 6 May 2013 15: 04 New
          -2
          What did I not notice the real opposition of the USA to Russia when they wiped their feet on them and their ally of Georgia? In the USA they thought and decided not to risk it. And most likely they didn’t even think, but pretended only. It’s clear that no ally is worth its own security. And they won’t climb into Syria;
    2. Suhov
      Suhov 6 May 2013 12: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: domovoi
      one thing is clear - Russia is not in business

      Hello to you! Arrived!
      If Russia now does not crawl into every hole as a stopper, this is more of a plus rather than a minus.
      And even more so reasonable behavior cannot be interpreted as - not in deeds.
      laughing
      1. domovoi
        domovoi 6 May 2013 13: 03 New
        0
        is a friendly state’s driban with a navy base a hole? because of such thinking as yours, when enemy planes fly over Moscow, Russia will express concern ... why, we are not a plug in every hole, right? if you want to be a powerful player in the world’s arena, you have to be ready to lean out of your house
        1. Suhov
          Suhov 6 May 2013 13: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: domovoi
          is a friendly state’s driban with a navy base a hole?

          No, not a hole. And the answer is necessary, but smart! And it’s definitely not necessary to bomb. hi
          Quote: domovoi
          because of such thinking as yours, when enemy planes fly over Moscow, Russia will express concern ...

          Outside May, sun, spring laughing
          and you have such a depressed mood, such a negative outlook for the future ...wassat
          Personally, I can’t imagine what would be like this without consequences, you live so well, the planes of the “partners” flew in the sky over Moscow. It is unlikely that they will succeed. no
          Russia already expresses concern and as follows: builds plants for the production of new S-500 systems hi
          1. domovoi
            domovoi 6 May 2013 15: 06 New
            +1
            May, spring..that yes :) I am not in a depressive mood, I am simply outraged by these raids of Israel ... where was the Syrian air defense? or are the Syrians crooked or EW complexes cut off so good ...
            1. Suhov
              Suhov 6 May 2013 16: 22 New
              0
              Quote: domovoi
              May, spring .. this is yes :) I have not a depressive mood, just outraged by these raids of israel.

              Totally agree with you.
              yes
            2. Aljavad
              Aljavad 6 May 2013 21: 29 New
              +1
              in the situation of Syria, it’s quite logical not to “shine” the positions of their air defense and not to react to the Israeli Air Force. This was clearly spoken about yesterday by repatriates on the site - Israel for Syria - now the most peaceful border.
    3. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 6 May 2013 12: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: domovoi
      one thing is clear - Russia is not in business. from a world empire turned into a rag. even Israel can not scare ... but well done China. but still stupid - p.p.dosy print money, and while this continues, trying to catch up with them is useless and stupid

      Do we officially declare war because Israel bombed Syria?) Are you joking, are you either stupid or naive. Warnings of this nature, if they occur, are only at the level of secrecy. And the second, if we do this, then the entire Jewish Kodla will conquer the Holocaust No. 2 for all media, we must first lower Israel below the baseboard in the eyes of the international community, and then make official warnings or provide assistance.
      1. domovoi
        domovoi 6 May 2013 13: 00 New
        -5
        how are you going to "lower"? and no one spoke about the beginning of the war, sabotage - that’s what you need
        1. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel 6 May 2013 14: 32 New
          +2
          My friend, you’re a maniac, however. Are you talking about any such sabotage?
          1. domovoi
            domovoi 6 May 2013 15: 10 New
            0
            maniac? when friendly states bomb, and Russia and China click and moo eyes ... condemned, called unacceptable ... do you have to smile? and if tomorrow these Alahakabrovskys come to Chechnya? will you talk peacefully with them?
            1. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 6 May 2013 15: 28 New
              +3
              It seems that people from Ukraine have also come to Chechnya, too, to fight for the "liberators", and they helped in Georgia. It seems that Russia has dealt with them. But why don’t you go to the rescue yourself, only provoke, urge?
            2. Aljavad
              Aljavad 6 May 2013 21: 32 New
              +1
              how we will talk with them - they have been aware for almost 20 years. but about sabotage is a provocation.
    4. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 6 May 2013 15: 35 New
      0
      Quote: domovoi
      from a world empire turned into a rag.


      the "rag" is even washed, you look, and it will turn into a "thing" .....,


      But what has Krajina turned into?
  4. Vadivak
    Vadivak 6 May 2013 11: 18 New
    +7
    Quote: Scythian 35
    If at a given moment they could not create a fourth generation,


    However, they made a frameless lamp, the engines are clearly Saturn, and the rest is not the first to be stolen




    1. bootlegger
      bootlegger 6 May 2013 15: 12 New
      +2
      A frameless lantern doesn’t mean anything yet. Maximum airplane speeds are not clear.
      It depends on what kind of load the torch will have and if the maximum speed is not large, the strength of the frameless lamp in the Chinese version will be enough.
      1. evil hamster
        evil hamster 6 May 2013 15: 30 New
        +1
        I ask for food, accidentally you slammed the minus, I missed the plus plus I wanted. I completely agree with your comment.
        1. Suhov
          Suhov 6 May 2013 17: 33 New
          0
          Quote: evil hamster
          I ask for the vilification accidentally slammed you minus, missed plus plus wanted. I completely agree with your comment.

          Name (Nick) still influences actions ...
          laughing
          Your minus - compensated: plus consciously.
          yes
          Because I also agree with the comment
          hi
  5. Epiphans
    Epiphans 6 May 2013 11: 19 New
    +5
    The Chinese are slowly but surely gaining skills. Perhaps someday they will master the fourth generation themselves. The fact that the Zh-20 is simply weight and size and the horse is clear.

    Yes, and aircraft carriers will someday build.
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    2. Suhov
      Suhov 6 May 2013 17: 48 New
      0
      Quote: Epiphanes
      China slowly but surely stuff skills. Perhaps someday they will master the fourth generation themselves. The fact that the Zh-20 is simply weight and size and the horse is clear.

      stuff skills - unstable combination of words.
      what
      Skills - shape,
      And stuffed - face.
      yes
      And further. Tricolor, apparently, is not your color.
      hi
  6. yanus
    yanus 6 May 2013 11: 19 New
    +6
    The US military-industrial complex begins to breed its government "on the headstock." The military budget will creep up again))
    1. domovoi
      domovoi 6 May 2013 11: 27 New
      +1
      not scary - they will print more money for themselves.
      1. El13
        El13 6 May 2013 12: 06 New
        +1
        In fact - it’s already scary, look at the lower chart on the website of the US Federal Reserve:
        http://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/bst_recenttrends.htm
        Dollar cash:
        1. domovoi
          domovoi 6 May 2013 12: 16 New
          0
          that is yes. but the dullness of China and Russia, which accept this paper, is striking. the gut is thin to change something. and will swallow dust after the United States and twitch only with permission
          1. Suhov
            Suhov 6 May 2013 18: 09 New
            +2
            Quote: domovoi
            that is yes. but striking stupidity of China and Russiathat take this paper.
            intestine change something.
            will be so swallow dust after the usa and
            twitch only by permission

            What was that?
            what
            And such is characteristic for Ukraine rozumnіst - rainє:
            Quiet Ukrainian Nich, Ale Salo Treba Rehovat.
            The axis is so self, and the hryvnia needs to be changed, curly-to-be in dolar.
            laughing
            (And the cleverness so characteristic of Ukraine - pleases:
            Quiet Ukrainian night, but fat must be hidden.
            Just like that and the hryvnia must be hidden somewhere in the dollar.)
            yes
  7. Renat
    Renat 6 May 2013 11: 24 New
    +1
    China will catch up with the United States on aircraft carriers and throw their hats.
  8. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 6 May 2013 11: 30 New
    +9
    Never underestimate an adversary. Remember the beginning of the 20th century. Russia could not even think that some kind of Japan would be able to "subdue" huge Russia like that. However, overlooked. We also need to be very careful now. Here we are comparing the United States and China, and the Chinese will take and attack Russia. And to us, in addition to nuclear fungi throughout China, and in response to several hundred similar in our territory, there is nothing to oppose.
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 6 May 2013 12: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: VohaAhov
      and the Chinese will take and attack Russia.

      before the attack they will “twist” our hands until we become “useless”, so I think we should not sell them military and dual-use technologies. In general, we need to restrain ourselves not by strength but not by letting us get ahead of ourselves.
      Although the growth in the number of Russians I can only welcome.
    2. El13
      El13 6 May 2013 12: 10 New
      +2
      To put aside anti-Chinese sentiments is a big great nation, you think that you need to arm yourself and upgrade - do it, but do not breed anti-Chinese, it only benefits the states.
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 6 May 2013 12: 19 New
        0
        China is the enemy, who poses the greatest threat to the Russian Federation, the United States or China is a big question. In the forties they almost kissed each other, and then they were ready to break each other's throats.
        1. Suhov
          Suhov 6 May 2013 13: 25 New
          +4
          Quote: Krasnoyarets
          China enemy

          China is the enemy .................................... - Invalid statement.
          Russia has no friends except ... - A true statement.
          laughing
      2. ed65b
        ed65b 6 May 2013 12: 47 New
        +2
        True say comrade EI13 !!!
        And we, as in the proverb "And Vaska listens and eats," do our thing slowly.
  9. Withoutdream
    Withoutdream 6 May 2013 11: 31 New
    0
    What kind of "reduction" are we talking about? The policy of the defense industry of China, since the beginning of the 20th century, was aimed at unprincipled copying of the equipment they purchased, bypassing any patents, agreements and contract terms. They have neither a scientific nor an economic base to create their own technology. The scenario is simple: they will buy fifth-generation fighters from us, approximately copy them, give their nomenclature designation, and here they have "narrowed the technological gap."
    1. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 6 May 2013 15: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: Withoutdream
      will buy fifth-generation fighters from us, approximately copy,

      Yes! and like we are armed and even like Well, under our arms it can become 30-100 million well, try to check us for "lice"!
      Bluffing or what?

      Well done!

      And, mind you, not one "bent-legged duck does not quack",
      how are we Aaaaaa! our army was dispersed, disarmed! We have nothing to defend!
    2. Aljavad
      Aljavad 6 May 2013 21: 42 New
      +1
      at a certain stage, they did everything the same way, they lagged behind, but this is only according to OUR concepts. Han people measure time for centuries. And they believe that eternity is ahead.
  10. Roll
    Roll 6 May 2013 11: 32 New
    +2
    am Ji 20 is a wonderful 5th generation aircraft. Firstly, it is impossible to show requirements for a Su 30 aircraft as a Su 27. These are different types. Neither cruising supersonic nor super maneuverability are necessary for delivering covert attacks on Amer’s bases and ships. Ji 20 is not mass-size, but a full-fledged prototype. As a glider of a bomber fighter, he is excellent. Flies not bad. And when it comes to the series, they’ll put the afar and the 117 engines and a lot of other things. The 31 and su 27 are also promising in the stealth version (based on f 15 stealth). The fact that China will follow in the footsteps of the USSR is understandable, it cannot be otherwise. Amers should have a balanced policy if they do not want a new Cold War and it is not a fact that China will repeat the fate of the USSR, amers are not in the same situation as in Soviet times, too much shit lately.
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 6 May 2013 12: 22 New
      -6
      American air-to-air missiles are some of the best in the world, and Chinese missiles are poor copies of the export options of the 70s.
      1. Guun
        Guun 6 May 2013 13: 40 New
        0
        Yes, I thought air-to-air missiles can only be done in the Russian Federation, even the USA themselves recognize this. And China-China air-to-air missiles are completely Rossiskaya with a different name.
        1. Windbreak
          Windbreak 6 May 2013 15: 58 New
          0
          Quote: Guun
          And China’s air-to-air missiles are completely Rossiskaya with a different name.
          But what about Python 3, Aspide Mk.1 and Matra R550 Magic became Russian missiles?
      2. Suhov
        Suhov 6 May 2013 14: 02 New
        0
        Quote: Krasnoyarets
        American air-to-air missiles one of the best in the world

        stop

        But not the best! laughing

        And soon the Chinese will catch them ... wassat
  11. FREGATENKAPITAN
    FREGATENKAPITAN 6 May 2013 11: 40 New
    +7
    ........... To build in the near future about 20 aircraft carriers (this is without taking into account the reserve) is beyond the power of even China ........ so, I'm sorry it's an empty ring
  12. Simple
    Simple 6 May 2013 11: 45 New
    0
    2049 Project Institute has released an analytical report on programs
    UAV China:
    http://project2049.net/documents/uav_easton_hsiao.pdf

    Another link to this topic:

    http://www.defensenews.com/article/20130311/DEFREG03/303110014/Study-Examines-Ch
    ina-8217-s-Expansive-UAV-Fleet
  13. Roll
    Roll 6 May 2013 11: 49 New
    +1
    am But what’s the mystery is the Chinese vigorous weapon, for some reason the numbers are funny 50-75 missiles and about 200 warheads. India has even more. Or are the Chinese so peaceful or ???
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 6 May 2013 12: 29 New
      -1
      Chinese nuclear weapons based on technology 30 years ago
      1. Guun
        Guun 6 May 2013 14: 04 New
        +2
        And the plum of technology after the collapse of the USSR was ignored? Little is known about the nuclear weapons of the PRC.
      2. Suhov
        Suhov 6 May 2013 16: 39 New
        0
        Quote: Krasnoyarets
        Chinese nuclear weapons based on technology 30 years ago

        Let me curiosity what's the difference for those against whom nuclear weapons will be used, on the basis of what technology will the explosion of the above nuclear weapons be initiated?
        what
  14. Sirocco
    Sirocco 6 May 2013 12: 04 New
    -1
    I don’t know how about the aircraft carriers. But with fifth-generation fighters, China is clearly an ambush. It would be nice if it cooperated with Russia as India (Bramos). And so, this is from the realm of fiction. Assumptions that the new Chinese stealth fighter is equipped with Russian engines, confirmed the director general of MiG RSK Vladimir Barkovsky. Engines account for more than 90% of all Russian aerospace technology exports to China. "In the past two years, we have signed a major contract with China for several hundred additional engines AL-31F, AL-31FN and D-30KP2. Deliveries are ongoing," said Kornev. D-30KP2 are the engines of Il-76 transport aircraft, the AL-31 engine family is the Su-27/30/34 aircraft and Chinese derivatives J-11. In addition, Russia supplied engines with increased resource AL-31FN series 3, and then engines for Chinese J-10 fighters.So, China will not be able to act as an independent manufacturer of LA 5-6 generation.
    1. Roll
      Roll 6 May 2013 12: 17 New
      +2
      laughing Well, at least two prototypes are Chinese Sun 10s and work great, and they have 500 kg more thrust. The sun 10a engine has recently been launched into a series, which means they have achieved acceptable performance. Then, if we buy Indian on-board computers for Su 35, this does not mean that we cannot do Su 35 on our own. The same is with the engines. China is working on its engines, it has allocated 10 yards of bucks for this program, and if it is possible to purchase our engines for now, it does it and it’s smart, why force events. And how is the cooperation between India and Russia different from the China-Russia cooperation. We are his engines, and he does not need the rest. This is called cooperation with maximum localization.
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 6 May 2013 12: 50 New
        +2
        And then that the Indians didn’t steal a bolt from us, and China built the whole army on theft.
        1. Roll
          Roll 6 May 2013 13: 20 New
          +1
          am Are you sure that at least he was stealing from us, he legitimately bought licenses for a Kalashnikov assault rifle, su 27, btr 3 turret, gun for type 99 and much more. Another thing is that it’s cheap and giving bribes to our effective managers, well, that’s our problems. And then patent law is very complicated. Do we support our developments in the Chinese Patent Office? If there is an opportunity for a sucker to take something valuable, why not take it. Then Russia, to be honest, somehow impudently has appropriated all the developments of the USSR. And Ukraine, and Belarus and others can sell their share to China? And then we will lose the stigma ourselves, so that they could run into others. Here is an example of Amerov’s B-29, they made one-on-one, even a stand for Coca-Cola and nothing, normal
          1. ed65b
            ed65b 6 May 2013 16: 24 New
            0
            Well then, then, howls stand that they steal intellectual property and copy if everything is licensed ??? And the same deck probably released under license ??? so do not.
            1. Roll
              Roll 6 May 2013 16: 40 New
              0
              belay Here are the screams, and nothing more. And when they are sure of the failure they are suing. The Chinese bought a license for su 27 and the deck, in their opinion, is only a modification of su 27. And then they stole not from us but in Ukraine, if technology is so dear to us, then we did not buy Ukraine a prototype but at the same time and the Varyag’s case, and even that 160 is a shame when for Amer’s loot and under the knife.
              1. Suhov
                Suhov 6 May 2013 18: 40 New
                0
                Quote: Rolm
                if technology is so dear to us, why didn’t we buy Ukraine a prototype and at the same time the Varyag’s building

                I never cease to be surprised:
                If sweets are distributed, then everything is in line. Handles pull, like we were in the USSR too.
                If the cages are weighed, then everything is burrowing. AND for the whole USSR thrown out one Russia.
                Double standards, OdnakO.
                yes
          2. Suhov
            Suhov 6 May 2013 18: 28 New
            +1
            Quote: Rolm
            Potm Russia to be honest, like that impudently appropriated all development THE USSR. But Ukraine, and Belarus and others can sell their share to China?

            Don't forget that Russia also "impudently" appropriated the debts of the Soviet Union.
            hi
          3. Aljavad
            Aljavad 6 May 2013 21: 51 New
            0
            yes NO! the cannons were inserted into their turrets and the FED was hung instead of Kodak. Aesley seriously - Tu-4 - not a copy, but a "fantasy on the subject."
            1. Suhov
              Suhov 6 May 2013 22: 04 New
              0
              Quote: Aljavad
              and FED instead of Kodak hung

              Where FED "fantasy" Kodak!
              good
  15. Jackyun
    Jackyun 6 May 2013 12: 12 New
    +2
    The opinion of the amateur. Of course, I can be mistaken (then correct), but why tear the ass into the footcloths in order to catch up and overtake the decaying imperialism, which is slowly rolling into the abyss. Why, nosebleeds, need to gallop to build a stealth plane? It may be better to create a good air defense system, for which this stealth light breakfast? At the current stage, this is entirely possible! And stealth becomes an expensive (very expensive) cannon fodder.
    Similarly with the enemy air defense system. The start of a supersonic (or hypersonic) rocket due to the radio horizon and the cuckoo arm. There is not enough flight time for a reaction.
    And then even in balloons wassat
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 6 May 2013 12: 31 New
      +1
      This is our national trait. Catch up and overtake. Although the example of SDI in the 80s did not serve as a lesson. Maybe now we will draw conclusions. It is no secret that the Stealth technology was slipped by our specialists, amers. With us, she was lying on a shelf, and was recognized as not effective.
      1. Jackyun
        Jackyun 6 May 2013 13: 12 New
        +2
        I read somewhere, the technology, now called stealth, was inadvertently invented by a Soviet engineer with a scientific mindset somewhere in the middle of the 20th century. It was not even technology, but a kind of reflection on the topic of the propagation of radio waves and their reflection, as a special case. Despite the fact that at all times we do not have a prophet in our own country, these thoughts were considered by learned men and military specialists in the most serious way. The conclusions were ambiguous: the idea is good, the direction is correct, but the effect is achieved only with a certain configuration and in a rather narrow spectral range. For the decimeter and meter ranges to create a technical sample, and even more so an airplane, is extremely difficult and even more costly. To cover all ranges of radar is not possible at all.
        The work of an engineer-scientist was released in a small brochure in a small print run. One copy accidentally came to the Americans (the pamphlet did not have a signature stamp), they did not philosophize crafty and got what was destroyed in Serbia by a complex as ancient as the world and costing several times cheaper than the F-117.
        Here is a story. Where is the truth here, and where is fiction everyone decides for himself!
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 6 May 2013 16: 27 New
          +1
          I remember this topic, they only said that the planned KGB action was to leak information, to pump money from the Pentagon budget to a deliberately deadlocked branch.
        2. Suhov
          Suhov 6 May 2013 22: 25 New
          0
          Quote: Jackyun
          Where is the truth here, and where is fiction everyone decides for himself!

          Enlightened optics are also “related” to Stealth technology.
          In short, the lenses cover a thin layer of metal whose task is to reflect light in antiphase. Result: the light reflected from the glass and the light reflected from the coating are in antiphase, in other words, the reflected light (signal) is absent. Under this requirement, the coating material and coating thickness are selected.
          Naturally, this is where the problem comes from. Any radiation: light, radio waves (of any range), etc. - these are all quanta, have a wave nature and differ only in frequency.
          The difficulty is to create such a coating that will ensure the return of reflected signals in antiphase for all (any) frequencies. There are still details, but they cannot be explained on the fingers. At least without a bottle it's hard.
          Joke.
          yes
    2. Suhov
      Suhov 6 May 2013 21: 48 New
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      Quote: Jackyun
      Why, nosebleeds, need to gallop to build a stealth plane? It may be better to create a good air defense system, for which this stealth light breakfast?

      Apparently:
      Only one can make a good Shield, who can make a good Sword.
      wassat
  16. Roll
    Roll 6 May 2013 12: 30 New
    +1
    love We will correct, with pleasure, the fact that there is a military budget and when it is torn, each branch of the army strives to snatch its own piece, and what is more competent and better is a tricky question.
  17. nemec55
    nemec55 6 May 2013 12: 46 New
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    China will not repeat the mistakes of the Soviet Union and become America's global enemy.

    They’re self-confident, they’ll have a bunch of vile, false, immoral, selfish measures to win, for any action. Unfortunately, we need to become such a dd -m-so that they could not be defeated yet.
  18. hermes
    hermes 6 May 2013 13: 05 New
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    It will take 10 years and China will be stronger 10 times than at the moment, and what copies something - vaabshe then copy it is not a weak thing
  19. engineer74
    engineer74 6 May 2013 13: 10 New
    +1
    “I’m sure that China will not repeat the mistakes of the Soviet Union and become America’s global enemy.”
    Everything is simple with them! Did Stalin make a Fulton speech? Did the USSR create NATO?

    If the West does not want to get new global enemies, then it, first of all, needs to monitor its behavior in the world!
    PS Interestingly, the authors of such reports themselves believe in what they write?
  20. Alexey M
    Alexey M 6 May 2013 13: 26 New
    +1
    You don’t understand anything! Amer should give money to the Chinese, but they don’t want to give the muscles to China, and it is growing to demand the favor.
  21. Naval
    Naval 6 May 2013 14: 29 New
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    China is developing dynamically, especially in shipbuilding, the quality of ships is constantly improving and I think that in the near future it will not be much inferior to Amers.
  22. lecturer
    lecturer 6 May 2013 15: 00 New
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    Quote: domovoi
    one thing is clear - Russia is not in business. from a world empire turned into a rag. even Israel can not scare ... but well done China.


    Who are you, a BACK provocateur?
    Yes, I HAVE YOU RAG RIP !!! for such a blather. You are a mongrel! And remember, RUSSIA is written with a capital letter !!!
  23. 120352
    120352 6 May 2013 15: 07 New
    +1
    Trying, then catching up and overtaking. And we can become the first object of using his weapons. The border is bare, come and occupy Russia.
  24. gregor6549
    gregor6549 6 May 2013 15: 11 New
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    Catching up with him, China, is unlikely to catch up, but at least it will keep warm. But seriously, after a decade, America will have to reckon with the interests of China not only in Asia but throughout the world, including in those regions that America has long considered its patrimony, for example, in the Strait of Hormuz. And for this, China does not need dozens of aircraft carriers at all. He and a few will be enough to sink one of two American aircraft carriers. Those. cause America such damage because of which it is unlikely to get involved in a war with China, but it will tighten its tail and die of its fervor.
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 6 May 2013 16: 31 New
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      I don’t agree. If America begins, it doesn’t jump off and China does not intimidate it. It will fight until it is victorious. In the end, right up to vigorous strikes. The example of the Cold War is indicative. If the union failed to scare America, the Chinese would never do that. And even as the Chinese warriors did not show themselves even once. always under the heel.
      1. gregor6549
        gregor6549 6 May 2013 18: 02 New
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        America, unlike China, has the concept of an "acceptable level of damage" after which it is undesirable to continue the war. And the sinking of only one American aircraft carrier may well reach this level. Moreover, the Chinese could potentially sink the American aircraft carrier in the near future, and they would be able to do this without their own Navy. A sudden hit of a pair of three ballistic missiles with homing heads (and China is developing such missiles with might and main) will be enough for this. They, the Chinese, will later show nobility, saving the sailors from a sinking aircraft carrier, those rescued with tears in their eyes will thank their rescuers, and the Chinese will make a surprised face, wondering where these missiles came from. On the other hand, America, with all its militancy, understands perfectly well that there is no limited nuclear war, and such a war, once started, will end in disaster for everyone, including America. Therefore, the Americans make noise, make noise, and even die down. Taiwan will also give China so that China no longer "emerges." Think fantasize? Not at all. Such scenarios have long been discussed by military experts and experts come to the conclusion that these scenarios are quite real.
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 6 May 2013 23: 35 New
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          Quote: gregor6549
          Such scenarios have long been discussed by military experts and experts come to the conclusion that these scenarios are quite real.

          I suppose everything will be simpler, China will take over the economic blanket and the aircraft carriers themselves will be somewhere in Norfolk. And against this, until the Americans can come up with weapons.
  25. Aljavad
    Aljavad 6 May 2013 21: 17 New
    +1
    the article has an intriguing topic and to put it mildly "mean" its disclosure. The fact that China will expand its presence in ALL areas does not know only those who are absolutely not in the subject. The fact that he will do it VERY gradually is also a commonplace. China generally measures everything with VERY large numbers. And time too. So in due time he will catch up and overtake. In general, the article is not for a specialized site.
  26. hayabusa777
    hayabusa777 7 May 2013 10: 02 New
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    It will take 10 years and China will be a power
  27. darksoul
    darksoul 8 May 2013 18: 20 New
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    Quote: Scythian 35
    If at a given moment they could not create a fourth generation, then let them dream of a fifth.



    But the Turks here immediately decided the 5th generation to gasp. Turkish pilot ace conducted the first test flight on the future ruler of the sky