Radius issues: IAEA announces consultations with Kyiv and Moscow on Zaporizhzhia NPP

The International Atomic Energy Agency announced that it has begun consultations with Kyiv and Moscow regarding the situation at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant.

The essence of the consultations, as the agency itself claims, boils down to the subsequent announcement of a ceasefire in the area of ​​the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant "to repair the backup line, which previously suffered significant damage."

Raphael Grossi:

We want to reach an agreement with Ukraine and Russia on a ceasefire in the Zaporizhzhya NPP area. The last backup 330 kV power line there was damaged earlier, causing a power outage. The outage was recorded on January 2.

Currently, according to the IAEA, the Zaporizhzhia NPP's power supply depends on the only remaining functional 750 kV line. If this line is damaged, the nuclear safety situation will significantly deteriorate.

One of the questions is whether this means that a ceasefire can only be declared for the duration of the power line repairs?

The main issue revolves around the definition of the "ZNPP area." The Ukrainian side insists that this area is the 50-kilometer zone around the plant. Consequently, this zone also includes the city of Zaporizhzhia, which Russian troops are approaching from the south. If a ceasefire is declared within this radius, then hostilities south of Zaporizhzhia will also have to be curtailed. Therefore, it is crucial to determine to what extent our negotiating team can reduce this radius.

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[K_4]

What the hell kind of negotiations are we talking about? This will be a rest area, a place for the Ukrainians to accumulate forces and weapons. There's no point in even agreeing.

[Michael]

Quote: K_4

What the hell kind of negotiations are we talking about? This will be a recreational area, a stockpile of forces and weapons for the Ukrainians.

And yet they're not afraid of radiation. Reptilians, definitely.

[marchcat]

So who damaged the 330 kV power line? They're trying to reach some kind of "truce" by hook or by crook. No way.

[Arkady007]

The entire "ZNPP area" should be handed over to Russian control, and there won't be any need to guard anything.

[Denis_999]

When their eyes and monitoring are needed, they're either not there, or they're looking the other way. When the Ukrainians need a break on the front lines, they're right there. A second OSCE.

No "truces" there, don't be suckers again at the expense of your soldiers!

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

❝ Raphael Grossi: We want to reach an agreement with Ukraine and Russia on a ceasefire in the area where the Zaporizhzhya NPP is located. The last backup power line there had been damaged earlier. ❞ —

— "And who did it?" © ...

[Eugene 62]

Banderovites have already damaged both the 750 and 330 power lines on numerous occasions. Everyone knows they're doing it on purpose. Except for that idiot Grossi. When he officially announces who's damaging the power lines, then things will get moving. So what's the difference? They'll repair them and then destroy them again. "This music will last forever if I change the batteries." - (c)

[alexputnik17]

The Ukrainian side insists that such an area is the 50-km zone around the station.

Why so? Will it be limited to the Zaporizhzhya NPP territory? + what is included in the complex that supports its operation? Just logical.
It's not the brothers who want to sneak through the crack again...
Grossi has appeared again. Out of nowhere. A lousy peacemaker.

[Valery Mamai]

At the moment, as reported by the IAEA, the power supply to the Zaporizhzhia NPP depends on the only 750 kV line that remains functional.
Experts, please enlighten me!!! A nuclear power plant is built not for consumption, but for generating electricity for external use. What other electrical power supply does a nuclear power plant require if it generates its own electricity? Any thermal power plant (TPP) has the concept of "auxiliary needs."
A nuclear submarine is also a nuclear power plant. It includes a nuclear reactor, a steam turbine, an electric generator, and so on.
How does the submarine operate without any external power supply via the 300 and 700 power lines???

[JuhanJuhan]

I'm not an expert, but I'll write this. When the reactor is shut down, it continues to heat up, and nuclear reactions of uranium, uranium fission products, and transuranic fusion products occur in the fuel assemblies. If forced cooling with water and an external power source isn't provided, overheating, hydrogen accumulation, and, ultimately, an explosion are possible.
Submarines on the shore are powered from the mains, and in case of network failures, from diesel power plants.

[Valery Mamai]

A nuclear power plant typically has more than one power unit. While one is shut down, the others are still running.
Why an external power source???

[alexputnik17]

Quote: Eugen 62

Everyone understands that they're doing this on purpose. Except for that idiot Grossi.

He understands everything. You shouldn't engage in diplomatic speeches with him, but rather speak through your teeth, always providing printouts of where and what he doesn't see and when he arrives. So what? Grossi come and go, but nuclear power plants stand and will stand. Is the world a wedge, or something?

[nikvp]

Banderovites know how to invent all sorts of conditions.

[Junior Private]

Why do we even listen to the IAEA and pay its dues? It's a shady organization, just like the IMF, the UN, and all those other pigs. We need to create our own Greenpeace. We'll find Greta Thumbergs. The country is rich in such talent.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Junior Private

Why do we even listen to the IAEA and pay our dues?

Unfortunately, without them, it's impossible to build a nuclear power plant. And Rosatom, according to various sources, is building between 22 and 34 power units abroad.

[Maikcg]

Grossi needs to be taped to the support of that power line and let him learn the hard way what, who and how.

[alexputnik17]

Quote: MaikCG

Grossi needs to be taped to the support of that power line and let him learn the hard way what, who and how.

We're not like that... Just leave it as part of the commission at Zaporizhzhya NPP during the SVO period.
He should set up a tent with a stove near this reserve line.

[Saturn VII]

He should set up a tent with a stove near this backup line wink

Not a tent, but a cage. And not with a stove, but with a heater from this very line. And if the frost kills you, well, it means you didn't maintain the line properly, and that's your own fault.

[Strelok1976]

Can someone in the know explain to me why the hell it's so important to keep this three-quarters-megawatt line operational? Have they tried shutting down the reactors? Or will someone be in serious trouble after they're shut down? Or will it be impossible to restart the reactors?

[ANB]

Have you tried shutting down the reactors?

They have long been silenced.

[Strelok1976]

Are you telling me that this branch is exclusively for cooling reactors?

[SEVERIN]

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Are you telling me that this branch is exclusively for cooling reactors?

- It's not a fact, they recently wrote that Zelensky and his gang are actively mining crypto.

[ANB]

. branch exclusively for cooling reactors

Yes. And since this is the first category, there should be two of them from different sources.

[sir Garry]

Quote: Strelok1976

Are you telling me that this branch is exclusively for cooling reactors?

Yes! That's right. Not just reactors, but also spent fuel storage facilities. It's still very hot...

[Strelok1976]

Or does this branch supply someone? Or is there something so important that we can't talk about it?

[Saturn VII]

Or something really important that can’t be talked about?

It goes without saying. The right people on both sides are making a killing off of it.

[AK-1945]

The IAEA representatives should have been sent packing long ago, but now it's absolutely necessary. We will take care of the plant's safety ourselves, without anyone's advice, much less instructions.

[malyvalv]

We need to issue an ultimatum. If you cut the backup power lines at Zaporizhzhya NPP, then we'll cut all the power lines at your nuclear power plants. Ukraine will lose even five to six hours of electricity per day for its citizens.
If they don't care about the safety of the Zaporizhzhya NPP, then why do we still care about the safety of the rest of them? Well, they'll ruin their own country. They're apparently very keen to do so.

[snow mountain]

Quote: SEVERIN

let them be illuminated by a torch

And they jump to warm up!

[sir Garry]

Quote: Strelok1976

Or does this branch supply someone? Or is there something so important that we can't talk about it?

No need to fantasize! It's all simple and mundane. It's physics!

[alexputnik17]

Quote from: nik-mazur

Unfortunately, without them, it's impossible to build a nuclear power plant. And Rosatom, according to various sources, is building between 22 and 34 power units abroad.

Plus. They're building it now. And there's still a long-term plan. The safest systems are being modernized. Instead of the IAEA, we need to invent some kind of structure, like within BRICS, with Russians in it. So that fewer Grossis come here. I can imagine it's also espionage. Nuclear power plants, in addition to radiation safety, have highly complex physical systems.

[Broad flag]

The negotiation process may last for another 5 years.

[alexputnik17]

Quote: Shiry Prapor

The negotiation process may last for another 5 years.

For God's sake. At least 25. The main thing is that the trends are outlined, that in such areas a number of countries will experience "substitution." The BRICS bank was either created or announced. They even chose a former Brazilian President as its Chairperson, a woman; I don't remember her last name. They can spend decades tinkering with the currency, the exchange rates, and what the peg is supposed to be. The main thing is that it's clear there will be no going back. That's all.

[APASUS]

The International Atomic Energy Agency announced that it has begun consultations with Kyiv and Moscow regarding the situation at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant.

What can we even talk about with the IAEA? They haven't found anyone who could have fired on the nuclear power plant in three years.
It's high time to create our own IAEA with China and Asia as a whole.

[alexputnik17]

Quote: APASUS

What can we even talk about with the IAEA? They haven't found anyone who could have fired on the nuclear power plant in three years.

The same office as the OSCE, IOC and the like...
In general, as I get older, I'm amazed at how Stalin could create such a balanced structure—the UN—and how, generations later, it could all be so ineptly squandered and lost. Including in the offices subordinate to the UN.