Basij forces have been deployed to the streets of Iranian cities.

Reports are emerging that Iranian security forces and IRGC special forces have begun to disperse the protests, which have become increasingly widespread. The main driving force behind the protests are ethnic minorities, who initially claimed to be protesting rising prices but then began tearing down and burning flags, toppling monuments, and calling on foreign countries to "intervene and help with democracy." The son of the deposed Shah of Iran, Pahlavi, is advocating for the overthrow of the government and the radicalization of the protests.

For quite a long time, Iranian law enforcement took no special measures against the protesters, but they carried out increasingly harsh and violent actions, including attacks on retail outlets and police cars. Many protesters began carrying firearms. weapon.

The day before, Iran's Supreme National Security Council warned that the judiciary and security forces will not tolerate vandals and saboteurs participating in unrest across the country, according to Iranian media reports.

From the statement of the Supreme National Security Council of Iran:

Since the 12-Day War in June, the Zionist regime has waged hybrid wars against Iran and has only adjusted its tactics since then. Recent incidents following protests against market instability were provoked by the Zionist enemy.

The statement also said that Israel and the United States had colluded against Iran and that Trump was now threatening Iran with further bombings.

Statement by Ayatollah Khamenei:

Our nation must remain united, because our enemies are only waiting for internal division and disunity. Let us leave them no hope.

Meanwhile, reports of gunshots are coming from Tehran.

Iran's FARS News agency reports that Basij forces have taken to the streets of major cities across the country. This force, subordinate to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, bills itself as a volunteer force.

FARS News:

The Basij are on the job. They've brought peace to the streets. Following the violent actions of rioters and terrorists last night, Basij forces tightened their grip today.

There were earlier reports that protesters fired at Basij vehicles, which was followed by retaliatory measures.

The Basij patrol the streets, including on motorcycles.

Trump previously threatened Iran with more bombing if it "doesn't allow protesters in the streets to express their opinions and uses force." Tehran suggested Trump bomb US cities, where the National Guard has recently been increasingly used to forcefully resolve issues, including against undocumented immigrants who "peacefully protest and express their democratic opinions."

Comments

[Normann]

Tehran has suggested that Trump bomb US cities, where the National Guard has recently been increasingly used to resolve issues by force, including against illegal immigrants who are "peacefully protesting and expressing their democratic opinion."

You just don't understand—it's a completely different matter. We just need oil, and our religion won't let us refuse Israel. Everyone at the UN doesn't understand, and they don't care.

[ZovSailor]

The Anglo-Saxons and Zionists, as well as their proxies, foreign agents, and NGOs, must be given a tough, preventative response, otherwise they will face the loss of national identity, independence, and sovereignty of the state, as seen in numerous examples of Bandera, Georgia, and other states.

[Zoldat_A]

!

Quote: ZovSailor

To Anglo-Saxons and Zionists

Why does this happen?
As soon as the protesters begin

calling on foreign countries to "intervene and help with democracy"

, it immediately becomes clear who needs this and why. And also whose money is funding it all.
Moreover, this clarity did not come today or yesterday, but decades ago.

Much has been written here about how things aren't so monolithic inside Iran, that the people are dissatisfied with the ayatollah regime, and that the economy is in bad shape...
May be...
But as soon as such calls appear, why is it immediately obvious that all this is not about "democracy," but about oil? All these "callers" are needed for only one thing: to overthrow the current government to please You Know Who, and then, amid the ruins of the country, to serve the interests of You Know Who.

They're so boring, after all... I'm so tired of their song about "democracy"! Is there really no creativity?
Well, at least they could have spoken out in defense of some desert lizards, or something... Otherwise, whenever there's talk about "not enough democracy," it's like a "black mark" - they want oil or to palm off a hedgehog on Russia...

[ZovSailor]

Zoldat_A
Today, 09: 00
Why does this happen?
As soon as the protests begin, it immediately becomes clear who needs it and why. And also whose money is funding it all.

This is already close to the mark, as the famous automaker of the last century, Henry Ford, uttered the golden words
-If you take the money from the 50 richest Jewish families, wars and revolutions will stop.

They're so boring, after all... I'm so tired of their song about "democracy"! Is there really no creativity?
Well, at least they could have spoken out in defense of some desert lizards, or something... Otherwise, whenever there's talk about "not enough democracy," it's like a "black mark" - they want oil or to palm off a hedgehog on Russia...

And with the promotion of new slogans of democracy, I think there will be no problems, as with green agendas and the fight for the environment.
It's always possible to bring out another Greta Thunberg to fill the globalists' wallets.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: ZovSailor

And with the promotion of new slogans of democracy, I think there will be no problems, as with green agendas and the fight for the environment.

Specifically, they have already flown past the green agenda and ecology...

But I don't think there's any need to worry about them—there are probably entire departments at Langley already working on coming up with new slogans. Otherwise, the "defense of democracy" is giving me heartburn.

However, as recent events show, Trump can get by just fine without slogans – simply "I want oil!" and no demagoguery. Europe hasn't "reconstructed" itself yet, and is still stuck with the same old playbooks. But to bomb alone, without America, he lacks the guts.

[ZovSailor]

Zoldat_A
Today, 09: 34
However, as recent events show, Trump can get by just fine without slogans – simply "I want oil!" and no demagoguery. Europe hasn't "reconstructed" itself yet, and is still stuck with the same old playbooks. But to bomb alone, without America, he lacks the guts.

The Washington red-headed narcissist missed two real opportunities, despite good intentions, to reach an agreement in the Yalta 2.0 format for the three of them: a meeting in Moscow on the 80th anniversary of the Soviet Union's victory in the Great Patriotic War and the ASEAN summit.
But he has ambitions on a universal scale, which speaks of his lack of independence and senile populism, generously seasoned with cognitive dissonance.

[Reptiloid]

Good afternoon, Igor! The article claims that someone from the Pahlavi dynasty, generally pro-American, wants to join the Iranian pie. After all, during WWII, the Germans, under the guise of tradition and religion, wanted to install the heir to the Romanovs, Masha Hohenzollern's father, on the Russian throne they had revived. In short, they're all the same manuals.

[Grits]

Quote: Reptiloid

Someone from the Pahlavi dynasty, generally pro-American, wants to join the division of the Iranian pie.

I wonder if the Iranian secret services have the means to convince this Pahlavi of the need to eat polonium or hang himself with a scarf?

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: Reptiloid

Someone from the Pahlavi dynasty, generally pro-American, wants to join the division of the Iranian pie.

I wonder if the Iranian secret services have the means to convince this Pahlavi of the need to eat polonium or hang himself with a scarf?

Good afternoon, dear Alexander!
This Pahlavi probably relies on his CIA security and support, his lobby—after all, he's their puppet, a valuable asset! It brings to mind the trial of the aging Pinochet, where the Yankees hushed up the case. Or how they organized the transfer of Nazi criminals under the warm wing of the CIA. Or Cuban Alejo Capenter's novel "The Remedy for the Method," and other LA novels.
Although I have hopes for the Iranian intelligence services and Eastern wisdom

[hector]

As soon as the protesters begin
calling on foreign countries to "intervene and help with democracy"
, it immediately becomes clear who needs this and why. And also whose money is funding it all.

So we must immediately open fire to kill.

[Grits]

Quote: ettore

So we must immediately open fire to kill.

That's it. We need to instill in these protesters the idea that as soon as you shout the slogan "Omeriga is with us," a bullet will fly into your forehead, and no one will be punished for this act. Only a bonus.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Gritsa

We need to instill in these protesters the idea that as soon as you shout the slogan "Omeriga is with us," a bullet will fly into your forehead, and no one will be punished for this act. Only a bonus.

Bullet or no bullet, building roads in Siberia with brute labor won't be a problem. And in five or seven years, maybe they'll learn how to practice "democracy" with a shovel in hand.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Zoldat_A

They're so boring, after all... I'm so tired of their song about "democracy"! Is there really no creativity?
Well, at least they could have spoken out in defense of some desert lizards, or something...

I agree, it's boring, but it works, so why would they change anything in a scenario that's been proven in dozens of countries? Another question is, why, despite the fact that the victory of "democracy" is usually followed by chaos and devastation, and living standards plummet, are there always those willing to serve the interests of the mattresses at the expense of their own countries and their people?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Another question is why, despite the fact that after the victory of "democracy" chaos and devastation usually reign, and the standard of living falls through the floor, there are always those who are ready to serve the interests of the mattresses to the detriment of their countries and their people?

The whole point of these "revolutions" is to buy off the "elite." And the people aren't up for protests—they're just trying to survive. And what can the "electorate" really do, if we understand perfectly well who, how, and why they're elected?
Another thing is that a real revolution, where the people, not a bunch of loudmouths on the Maidan, take up arms and overthrow the government—no State Department can finance that. It's a matter of pushing and pulling. Revolutions take different paths...

What the hell am I even talking about? Remember the 90s? How many people rose up in 93? And the "victorious democracy" declared them rebels, and then magnanimously forgave them...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Zoldat_A

After all, the whole point of these “revolutions” is that the “top brass” is bought.

A controversial thesis, Alexey. If the elite can be bought, then what's the point of overthrowing them? They'll hand over everything they need to the enemy. It turns out that revolutions are made precisely to overthrow the elite.
The 1917 revolution is probably the only revolution on the European continent that benefited Russia and its people; everything else is from the evil one and is a struggle of the elites.
The technology of color revolutions is meticulously crafted, and, as a rule, the people are exploited illicitly. By playing on their emotions and desire for justice, the undesirable government is removed by their hands, while others reap the fruits of the revolution. It's not for nothing that they say that revolution ultimately devours its own children, and this is precisely what's happening in Ukraine. The masterminds of the bloodshed, Yatsenyuk and Turchynov, have snatched their billion and have already fled the country, while those who leaped on the Maidan are now fertilizing the soil by the tens of thousands.

Quote: Zoldat_A

To take up arms and overthrow the government—no State Department can pay for that. It's a matter of pushing and pulling.

The State Department, through Victoria Nuland, gave a "confession" to the effect that the State Department spent 5 billion US rubles on the entire Maidan, the removal of Yanukovych, and the transition of Ukraine to manual control by the mattresses.

Quote: Zoldat_A

What the hell am I even talking about? Remember the 90s? How many people rose up in 93? And the "victorious democracy" declared them rebels, and then magnanimously forgave them...

I remember the events of October 1993 very well, as I was working in the secret police at the time and was receiving secretive reports from both sides. The problem with that protest was the poor organization of work with the periphery and the regions, as they believed that everything was decided only in the capital and that whoever had the key to the front door was the boss. They couldn't take the key away, and the periphery was informed after the fact. Essentially, there was no preparation, either overt or covert, nor was there a full understanding that "those at the top can't, and those at the bottom won't."

Quote: Zoldat_A

Revolutions have different paths...

It is indisputable.

[Zoldat_A]

Dmitry, I probably expressed myself somewhat confusingly. You expressed what I wanted more clearly and concisely.

Quote: Nyrobsky

If the top brass can be bought, then what's the point of overthrowing them? They'll hand over everything they need to the enemy.

The one who is overthrown after overeating cookies is the one who doesn't want to follow orders. And so they install an obedient one.
And when the people, who require a lot of effort to stir up, take up arms, then those who are the puppets of other people's uncles are overthrown.

And yes, about 1993. They, as you rightly said, believed that everything was decided in Moscow.
What else were they supposed to consider? They showed a hungover State Emergency Committee on TV—congratulatory telegrams poured in from all over the country (for which they were later dismissed from their posts like leaves from an ash tree). "Democracy won"—well, screw it, let it be democracy. And who established it, that democracy? A drunkard "in an armored car"? A half-drunk crowd on the barricades—are those the delegates of all 270 million people?

You're right that the 93rd was poorly prepared. But the 91st was well prepared – they'd been preparing since 1986.
I will never forget the words of M. Thatcher: “We are only just thinking about how to ask him for something, and he is already proposing it himself...”

And one more thing about revolutions. I wonder when, on what date, the residents of Bordeaux or Toulouse learned that God knows where—in Paris—something had been done to the Bastille. About two weeks later, at best? And I wonder how they reacted to it?
In 91-93, we had a telephone, but it only conveyed the will of the Moscow authorities to the local authorities. For me, for example, who was then 1000 kilometers from Moscow, the only differences between August 15th and 30th were the different news on TV from the 19th and 21st. That's the revolution THERE, but here...

[Or me]

A sensible "proposal".

Tehran has suggested that Trump bomb US cities, where the National Guard has recently been increasingly used to resolve issues by force, including against illegal immigrants who are "peacefully protesting and expressing their democratic opinion."

[gribanov.c]

The common people of North America also need social democracy and social justice; there, more than anywhere else in the world, they need a transfer of power from the ruling elites to the common people, the nationalization of large property and big business, and a fair distribution of national income, equally across the population.

[Technician_Harlan]

In the US, the ruling elites generously provide for the majority of their citizens by plundering (directly or indirectly) other countries. And in most cases, they simply provide for free, supporting their populism. So I wouldn't expect any serious changes from below in the US. The small-scale revolts of blacks and trans people have a different nature and purpose.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Elijah

A sensible "proposal".

Tehran suggested Trump bomb US cities.

I remembered a joke from the Shoigu era.

- Then maybe we'll hit Voronezh?
- Why Voronezh?
- There are no our people there...

For Trump, it's the exact opposite. Everyone else in the world is a stranger, and they can bomb anyone they want. In America itself—even if they were turning the protesters into soup in the streets—everything is fine, there are no problems.
So Seattle won't be bombed...

I don’t even know why I suddenly remembered the “Navalnyites”, and, again, from a joke,

And these people forbid us to pick a finger in the nose?

[bondov]

If Iran falls, which I doubt, but theoretically the West would then gain access to Central Asia – the very soft underbelly of Russia and China… and goodbye stability, to put it mildly…

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: bondov

and goodbye stability, to put it mildly...

And now, to put it mildly, things aren’t quite as stable... “Here’s democracy, here’s no democracy, here they wrapped up the fish.”
And if they succeed in Iran...

Yes, you are right - goodbye to even the last hint of stability and predictability.

The Yankees made a mistake with Afghanistan – in 20 years, they couldn't buy with ANY money what they could buy cheaply in Ukraine, for example. They didn't get a loyal, tame government. Well, they were unlucky with the country. They never realized what they were getting themselves into.
The Middle East isn't Afghanistan. You can do a lot there for money...They won't refuse money in Afghanistan either. But as for what to do... They'll do whatever's swirling in their heads, not what they were paid for.)
Now they're counting on "if it didn't work out there, it will work out here."

[gsev]

Quote: Zoldat_A

The Yankees made a mistake with Afghanistan - in 20 years, they couldn't buy with ANY money what they could buy, for example, cheaply in Ukraine.

Have you estimated the amount of money needed to invest in Afghanistan to buy it? During the Soviet occupation, a state employee could provide a comfortable living for about 15 members of their clan. Under the Americans, it often happened that all 15 people worked, but the family still had less money than under Babrak Karmal's government. In Ukraine, the hooligans there were lured by the idea of ​​managing Russian slaves, not the actual money given for food, clothing, and shelter during the pogroms. Similarly, in Iran, the hooligans from ethnic minorities were convinced they could enslave the Iranian intelligentsia with impunity, while they themselves would become overseers for the Americans and Arabs.

[Technician_Harlan]

Things are complicated in Iran. On top of sanctions and other pressures, an even more serious problem has emerged: a shortage of drinking water. Recent years have seen extremely little rainfall (in some places, none at all), depleting the underground aquifers. This will be more serious than anything else. It's causing problems for agriculture, industry, and even everyday life. And no one knows what to do about it.

P.S. Do not suggest reversing Siberian rivers!

[guga]

An even more threatening problem has emerged: a lack of drinking water

And no one knows what to do with this.

No need to reinvent the wheel.
All solutions have long been known and work:
* smart use of natural resources
* development and maintenance of infrastructure
* desalination
* secondary use of wastewater in agriculture
But when the Rahbar decides to spend all resources on nuclear weapons, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, etc., then there is no money left for water management.
But it is easiest to find the culprits among the Freemasons and Reptilians.

[Technician_Harlan]

You're using general statements that are basically correct, but don't answer the specific question. How often do members of parliament utter such bombastic statements at tributes or on TV shows? However, they don't know how to resolve the issue technically or organizationally. And they have to spend money on nuclear weapons and Hezbollah, otherwise Zionist Israel will devour them. Surely you won't dispute that Russia has to spend a lot of resources on maintaining the Nuclear Shield or strategic submarines. How is Iran any worse? If you think it's not that kind of player, then look no further than North Korea or Pakistan.

[guga]

My point of view is fundamentally different from yours.
Almost all of Iran's oil and gas neighbors (Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, Oman, Kuwait) have built desalination plants and proper water supply systems. Even though just 70 years ago, they were desert. They probably know.

How to solve the problem technically or organizationally

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/desalination-by-country

Iran, with its thousand-year history, is on the contrary sliding into the Middle Ages.
Although construction began in 2020, but... priorities and ambitions... and there were not enough funds for everything.

otherwise Zionist Israel will devour them

Come on already...
Is it Israel that hung a countdown clock in the square?
Or has Israel declared the destruction of Iran as its official goal?
He just fits the role of an external enemy perfectly now, although in recent history they were friends.
Propaganda is like that...
As I wrote above

It is easiest to find the culprits among the Masons and reptilians

Take North Korea or Pakistan as an example.

So they preach their ideas of Juche or Islam mainly at home and do not export them throughout the region in such volumes.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: bondov

very soft underbelly

I could never figure out what this soft underbelly was. Because anatomically, just below the belly/abdomen is the pubis, which is actually a bone.
By the way, Churchill, from whom this expression comes, used the word “underbelly”, which translates as “lower abdomen” or even simply “belly” or “tummy”.

[bondov]

You might understand it literally, like First Gump, but it should be: Underbelly is the side of something that is not normally seen. Figuratively, it means a vulnerable or weak part, similar to the term Achilles' heel.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: bondov

you understand it literally

Yeah, in my opinion, an analogy should at least somehow correspond to reality, otherwise it turns out to be nonsense.
Incidentally, there are no questions about the English original—the lower abdomen can indeed be soft and vulnerable, but the underbelly is unclear. Even dictionaries provide definitions but no usage examples. In other words, this word exists solely as part of a set idiom.

[bondov]

This is not an analogy, but a metaphor - the English text above explains everything clearly

[nik-mazur]

Quote: bondov

This is not an analogy, but a metaphor

In general, it doesn't change anything:

Metaphor is a word or expression used in a figurative sense, which is based on the comparison of an object or phenomenon with another on the basis of their common feature.

What are the common characteristics of Central Asia (which is not part of Russia) and the underbelly?

[bondov]

In general, it doesn't change anything:

changes - look up the definition of analogy that you don't seem to know and compare

[nik-mazur]

Quote: bondov

look up the definition of analogy, which you don't seem to know,

Really? It seems you know it less than I do:

Analogy:
1. Similarity, correspondence in any respect between objects, phenomena, concepts.
2. An inference in which, based on the similarity in some respect of objects, phenomena, concepts, a conclusion is made about their similarity in other respects

So what? Do you think anything has changed fundamentally?

[bondov]

2. An inference in which, based on the similarity in some respect of objects, phenomena, or concepts, a conclusion is made

A metaphor is something you don't know, not a conclusion... but you have conceit... not supported by anything, however...

[nik-mazur]

Quote: bondov

You do have a certain conceit... which is not supported by anything, however.

Oh-oh-oh, here we go. Did I accidentally step on your toe or something?

[bondov]

no, of course not... I am patient, but you wrote with, like, knowledge: //It seems you know it worse than me:// but it turns out that you still know it worse..

[nik-mazur]

Quote: bondov

However, you wrote with, like, knowledge: //It seems like you know it worse than me

Well, that's true, because I know the definitions of both terms, but you haven't given either one.
At the same time, I don’t understand at all what you want to prove or disprove.

[bondov]

They brought up what is not difficult to do USING THE INTERNET, but you DON'T UNDERSTAND the meaning - the Internet won't give you this, ONCE AGAIN a metaphor is not...
CONCLUSION

[nik-mazur]

Quote: bondov

ONCE AGAIN, a metaphor is not... CONCLUSION

Inference is the second meaning of the word analogy. What does metaphor have to do with it? Are you absolutely sure you understand what you're arguing about?

[bondov]

here is the first meaning that you gave:

similarity, correspondence in some respect between objects, phenomena, concepts.

So similarity isn't a conclusion either. Not only do you lack logic, but you also don't understand the Russian language, since you don't understand what you copied from the internet.
Of the foreigners, you will undoubtedly be...

[nik-mazur]

Quote: bondov

Not only do you not have a command of logic, but you also don't speak Russian... you will undoubtedly be one of the foreigners

First of all, do you remember how it all started? Why did you even pick up this analogy?
Secondly, learn the ropes, native, before you attack people:

Analogy

Great Dictionary of Russian language
ANALOGY, -i; f. [from the Greek analogía - correspondence, similarity].
1. (with whom-what, between whom-what). Similarity in some respect between objects, phenomena, concepts, etc. To look for analogies, analogies with something. Something has no analogies, knows no analogies. To draw analogies between someone, something (to compare, to contrast).
2. Log. Form of inference, in which the similarity of relationships between the properties of some objects or phenomena is equated with the similarity of relationships between other objects or phenomena.

Explanatory Dictionary of the Living Great Russian Language by V. I. Dahl
ANALOGY n. Greek similarity, resemblance, closeness; the relationship between two similar objects; conclusions from comparative findings. Similar, analogical method of inference, by similarity.

Great Encyclopedic Dictionary
ANALOGY (Greek analogia - correspondence - similarity), similarity of objects (phenomena, processes) in some properties. Inference by analogy - knowledge gained from examining one object is transferred to a less-studied object similar in its essential properties and qualities; such inferences are one of the sources of scientific hypotheses. The analogy of existence, the analogy of being (Latin: analogia entis), is one of the fundamental principles of Catholic scholasticism; it substantiates the possibility of understanding the existence of God from the existence of the world He created.

Great Soviet Encyclopedia
Analogy (Greek: anālōgía — correspondence, similarity)
similarity of objects (phenomena, processes, etc.) in some properties. In conclusion according to A. Knowledge obtained from examining one object ("model") is transferred to another, less studied (less accessible for research, less visual, etc.) in some sense, object. With respect to specific objects, conclusions obtained by A. are, generally speaking, only probabilistic in nature; they are one of the sources of scientific hypotheses (See Induction), inductive reasoning (See Induction) and play an important role in scientific discoveries. If conclusions by A. relate to abstract objects, then under certain conditions (in particular, when establishing relations of isomorphism or homomorphism between them), they can yield reliable conclusions.

Philosophical Encyclopedia
ANALOGY
(from the Greek analogia - correspondence) - similarity between objects, phenomena, etc. Inference according to A. (or simply A.) — inductive reasoning, whereby the similarity of two objects in some parameters leads to a conclusion about their similarity in other parameters. For example, the planets Mars and Earth are similar in many ways: they are located next to each other in the solar system, both have an atmosphere, etc.; there is life on Earth; since Mars is similar to Earth in terms of the conditions necessary for the existence of life, one can conclude that there is life on Mars as well. This conclusion is, obviously, only plausible.

[bondov]

Of course I remember, unlike you.

Yeah, in my opinion, the analogy should at least somehow correspond to reality,

- This is your first mention of ANALOGY, not mine, and I didn't write it, right? You've seized on it yourself... now you're making some strange claims against me for some reason.

and again, for the third or fourth time: ANALOGY IS AN INFERENCE - this is true in all the definitions you copied, but metaphor is not an INFERENCE... the English text I cited clearly says that underbelly similar to the term Achilles' heel - in short, it is Achilles' heel

SUCH CONSTRUCTIONS ARE CALLED METAPHOR, NOT ANALOGY... I PROPOSE TO END HERE

[nik-mazur]

Quote: bondov

ANALOGY IS AN INFERENCE

Yes, but not only, because the word has multiple meanings:

ANALOGY
1. (with whom-what, between whom-what). Similarity in some respect between objects, phenomena, concepts, etc.

Quote: bondov

SUCH CONSTRUCTIONS ARE CALLED METAPHOR, NOT ANALOGY

Yes, I didn't object to the metaphor, because what does it change? Do you even remember how it all started?

Quote: bondov

underbelly similar to the term Achilles' heel

Again, I've never argued with the English expression. But in Russian, "underbelly" doesn't have that meaning.
And Central Asia cannot in any way be Russia’s underbelly, since it does not belong to Russia.
Yes, and the word itself is kind of stupid.
And why you started arguing is completely unclear.

[bondov]

..

And Central Asia cannot in any way be Russia’s underbelly, since it does not belong to Russia.

And in the EMPIRE, the USSR also did not belong, and as part of the CIS too, and then, you all literally try, but this is a metaphor - an Achilles heel, such discussions are not for you, this is your Achilles heel,

[nik-mazur]

Quote: bondov

such discussions are not for you

Your arguments, my dear sir, are as senseless as they are tiresome.
So, don't let me keep you any longer.

[bondov]

Well, I said the same thing before, but you're having a hard time getting it.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: bondov

...

How slowly you float past. You could be more active.

[bondov]

So you're all answering me, answering my post... look at the very top... but it's hard for you to get it all

[Zoldat_A]

Quote from: nik-mazur

I could never figure out what this soft underbelly was. Because anatomically, just below the belly/abdomen is the pubis, which is actually a bone.

I've always visualized this concept not on a person, but on a cow. To me, the "underbelly" is the flank and the butt. Maybe also the flank, but I'm not sure. Basically, it's where there are no ribs, and the layer of meat is very thin.
That's a soft, sensitive part of the animal. Try kicking a horse where there are no ribs! He definitely won't like it. It's unprotected, with intestines right behind the abdominal wall.
And wolves aren't tigers—they don't tear at your sides or cling to your neck, but they try to grab your groin. Just like in politics—the West is always trying to stir up Central Asia, which was ours. Take Kazakhstan, for example—the distances are vast, and there's little protection.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Zoldat_A

I always visualized this concept for myself not on a person, but on a cow.

Well, if that's the case. I'm not very familiar with cows – I only know where the loin is cut from.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote from: nik-mazur

Quote: Zoldat_A

I always visualized this concept for myself not on a person, but on a cow.

Well, if that's the case. I'm not very familiar with cows – I only know where the loin is cut from.

I didn't grow up in a village either. All I knew about rural life came from my childhood, spending holidays with my grandmother. We kept a cow, and my grandfather had a state farm horse at home.
And I'm not a professional butcher. Hunting, fishing, and life have taught me a little. Plus, I'm an amateur home cook when I have the time.

That's where the tenderloin is cut from—the bottom—and it's usually called the underbelly. The tenderloin and flank are on top, and the underbelly (the flank and groin) are on the bottom.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Zoldat_A

underbelly (rump and groin) - from below

With this understanding, some sense begins to emerge. In general. But with the exception that Central Asia is not part of Russia and therefore cannot be Russia's underbelly.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote from: nik-mazur

With this understanding, some sense begins to emerge. In general. But with the exception that Central Asia is not part of Russia and therefore cannot be Russia's underbelly.

Perhaps I am paying too much attention to this terminological issue, but two philologists in the family - a mother and a wife, a doctor and a candidate of sciences - somehow oblige...

It's not about the republics themselves, but rather that they're located near our vulnerable spot and are easy to strike from, given how we defend our "underbelly."
Why look far—not long ago, drones from the south, from Turkmenistan, were flying over Astrakhan. And it's much closer and more convenient to strike Saratov, Samara, Ulyanovsk, and Orenburg from Kazakhstan than from Ukraine. So they're looking for a "softer" location here.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Perhaps I am paying too much attention to this terminological issue, but two philologists in the family

I don't have any philologists in my family, but I love precision in words and really don't like carelessness when words are used haphazardly.

Quote: Zoldat_A

It's not about the republics themselves, but about the fact that they are located near our vulnerable spot and it's easy to strike from there.

Yes, the meaning is clear. The expression itself irritates me, especially its cliched use.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote from: nik-mazur

The expression itself irritates me, and especially its formulaic use.

Because of this, I can't watch the news on TV lately. Our young crop of journalists are churning out such incredible things on air!
Sometimes, after particularly remarkable incidents, I ask my wife, "What are you teaching your journalists? First, teach them how to express their thoughts properly in Russian." (Several years ago, my wife lectured journalism students.) And she says that if you're trying to teach them anything, you should start with "The Turnip" and "The Little Hen Ryaba"—they don't read a thing. They do read a summary of "War and Peace" (8 printed pages), and once, back in the early 2000s, during a test on Dante's "Divine Comedy," a boy showed off his erudition and cheerfully recounted the plot of a performance by the S. Obraztsov puppet theater...

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Our young generation of journalists is making up such things on air.

If only young people and if only journalists. Here, people with a Soviet education write "nobody" instead of "nobody." I won't even mention the commas. Well, what's clear anyway...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote from: nik-mazur

Here, people with a Soviet education write “nobody” instead of “nobody”.

Call me a "grammar nazi," but I'm so furious at the -tsya and -tsya that people seem to deliberately use in the exact opposite way to how they're supposed to.
I don't remember a single formalized Russian rule from school, except for "zhi-shi," but I write generally correctly. My wife says it's because as a child I read not just two books—a thick one and a green one—but also a couple of local libraries.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Zoldat_A

it's annoying and it's annoying

Well, after such grammatical masterpieces as “future”, “in general”, “literate”, “best”, “not who”, I don’t really react to tsya/tsya anymore.

Quote: Zoldat_A

As a child, I read not just two books—a thick one and a green one—but a couple of local libraries.

Similarly.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Dispersal is certainly possible, but the authorities should also draw the appropriate conclusions from the causes of the protests. Islam alone won't get you very far.

[Obstacle from the right]

The main driving force behind the protests were national minorities,

We need to be tougher with them...)))

[ASSAD1]

Well, of course, the exchange rate is excellent: 1 dollar and 1.5 million rials. What are the ungrateful ones complaining about?

[Technician_Harlan]

Minorities seem to be minorities everywhere.

[Sergej1972]

Collectively, they make up about half of Iran's population. Some claim even more. And they, especially Azerbaijanis, are very numerous in the army, the IRGC, and so on. Khamenei himself has Azerbaijani roots.

[megafair]

Iran needs to follow China's example and give the "protesters" who are dancing to the tune of the puppeteers from the US and Israel a Persian version of Tiananmen Square.

If, instead of strikes and peaceful protest, the dissatisfied organize riots, pogroms, arson, tear down monuments, and try to plunge the country into the abyss, all while calling on Western instigators to "come and help tear Iran apart," then there should be no mercy for such "protesters."

[Same lech]

National minorities became the main driving force behind the protests.

Take note, Kremlin guys...what could happen if millions of migrants were brought in with their own culture and worldview? You'll end up with a color revolution of ethnic minorities.

[ARIONkrsk]

Quote: The same Lech

National minorities became the main driving force behind the protests.

Take note, Kremlin guys...what could happen if millions of migrants were brought in with their own culture and worldview? You'll end up with a color revolution of ethnic minorities.

They don't care, they're on duty here. I just read that the Ministry of Education is preparing decrees regarding prayer rooms in schools and halal food; it's completely sad.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

What could the import of millions of migrants lead to?

In fact, Arabs, Uzbeks and Tajiks have been living in Iran for a thousand years.

[Sergej1972]

First and foremost, of course, are the Azerbaijanis and Kurds. They outnumber the Arabs many times over. There are also Baloch, Talysh, Turkmen, Gilaki, and so on. There are Tajiks, but not many. As for the Uzbeks, there are very few of them, and they are most likely the descendants of recent migrants. A thousand years ago, there weren't any Uzbeks, actually.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Sergej1972

Azerbaijanis and Kurds. There are many times more of them than Arabs. There are also Baloch, Talysh, Turkmen, Gilaki, and other peoples. There are also Tajiks.

And these are not just newcomers, but rather native residents.

Quote: Sergej1972

A thousand years ago, there were no Uzbeks at all.

It didn't exist in its modern form, but our ancestors did. A thousand years ago, there weren't even any Russians.

[Sergej1972]

Yes, it is the common homeland of the peoples of Iran. Although, as for the Arabs, one could say that most of Iran is the descendants of those who "came here." But hundreds of years have passed since then. So for local Arabs, it is also their homeland. But there are practically no Uzbeks there.) You've probably confused it with Afghanistan.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Sergej1972

There are practically no Uzbeks there.) You probably confused it with Afghanistan.

Apparently so. Although it doesn't really matter.

[paul3390]

National minorities are often like that... Before you know it, they're already smashing something, burning something, and cutting up the majority...

[Fitter65]

Tehran has suggested that Trump bomb US cities, where the National Guard has recently been increasingly used to resolve issues by force, including against illegal immigrants who are "peacefully protesting and expressing their democratic opinion."

It's a nice proposal, but it's unlikely to be understood in the US.

[gsev]

Quote: Fitter65

It's a nice proposal, but it's unlikely to be understood in the US.

This happened in Libya. In Syria, Idlib was protected by Turkish troops. The Americans used their air force to cover the Kurds in northern Syria and ISIS fighters on the Jordanian border. The US invasion of Afghanistan followed exactly the same scenario. Current Western policy assumes that Albanians, Tatars, and Circassians oppress Slavs, and Uyghurs oppress Han Chinese. Surely, there are groups in Iran that claim power over the Iranian people.

[Yaro Polk]

The local "Navalny" scum probably wants LGBT pride events in this Muslim country to be held by the thrice-a-century and the EU Satanists?

[ASSAD1]

It turns out that Europe has Sodomites, but Russia and Ukraine have the highest HIV prevalence?

[Technician_Harlan]

Where did you get the "firewood" (statistics)? Or was it just written that way?

[ASSAD1]

Have you been banned by Google or Yandex for a long time?

[Technician_Harlan]

That's not an answer. Provide a link to the World Health Organization, for example...or the International Committee of the Red Cross. Don't cite any bloggers or idiots who write about things they often don't understand.

[ASSAD1]

Isn't it a hard question? Fifth place in the world, and first place in Europe. It's not very convenient to post links from a phone.

[Technician_Harlan]

Which country has the first in Europe?

[Yaro Polk]

These statistics are probably from the 90s... when a drunken liberal pig ruled the country.

[Dmitry Rigov]

Unfortunately, this won't change anything at all; even if the protests are successfully suppressed, it's simply postponing the inevitable. Currently, only China is buying Iranian oil at a steep discount, and this is clearly insufficient for economic development (90+ million). The consequences of these stories about "sanctions are only beneficial" and import substitution are clearly evident in the case of Iran, where the dollar has skyrocketed 30-fold since sanctions were imposed in 2018. For example, our automotive, aircraft, and space industries are stagnating, and our light industry is simply inundated with products from neighboring countries. As the saying goes, the USSR only had galoshes, and we'll have Chinese ones, too.

[Konnick]

The worst thing would be if a civil war starts in Iran.

[the same doctor]

A civil war waged by you, when you're full of energy, is a purification of society. It's much worse when foreign agents wage a civil war against your country.

If war cannot be avoided, strike first.

[Joker62]

The Basij are on the job. They've brought peace to the streets. Following the violent actions of rioters and terrorists last night, Basij forces tightened their grip today.

We need to give a few rioters a good beating right away, especially the instigators and leaders of the radical opposition. And don't look to the country of "democratic democracy" represented by Trump. Take China as an example – they gave their rioters a solid thrashing, and peace and calm were immediately restored.

[ASSAD1]

How worried are you about the regime of the senile? If you don't remember, they called the USSR a little Satan.

[AK-1945]

It was necessary to disperse all these "protesters" in a harsh manner from the very beginning, otherwise look at what happens with Yanukovych, a living example.

[VyacheSeymour]

It was necessary to disperse all these "protesters" in a harsh manner from the very beginning, otherwise look at what happens with Yanukovych, a living example.

Are you talking about Iran?... Then Pahlavi!

[the same doctor]

Protests don't need to be dispersed. All protesters should be herded into stadiums, where the leaders should be filtered and isolated. And, based on interrogations, any instigators hiding should be arrested at their homes.

[ASSAD1]

Maybe we should try to build a more or less prosperous state at home? Instead of harassing all our neighbors with our revolutionary exports?

[nik-mazur]

Quote: ASSAD1

Maybe we should try to build a more or less prosperous state at home? Instead of interfering with all our neighbors.

What's interesting is that the United States, which has built a prosperous state in its own country, is the one that interferes the most with all its neighbors and non-neighbors.
Is there some connection here?

[ASSAD1]

Japan, South Korea, Taiwan are quite prosperous countries.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: ASSAD1

Japan, South Korea, Taiwan

After all, both Japan and South Korea are countries where America has long and firmly entrenched itself. Taiwan, too, but it's hard to call it a state.
By the way, I forgot to ask, where and with what is Iran getting involved?

[Rostislav_]

Convenient. Blaming external forces for domestic policy failures is always a familiar tactic, but it doesn't always work.

[opuonmed]

Iran was unable to defend itself and fight back, so why should such a government exist in Iran?

[Saturn VII]

This formation is subordinate to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and positions itself as a volunteer force.

If these Basij are volunteers, then let them also take to the streets for peaceful demonstrations and start shooting at the Zionist scum everywhere.

[Dmitry Rigov]

Judging by the videos, the odds are against them: the Basij are surrounded by a crowd and then left lying beaten, but they don't want to give them weapons, as the authorities don't need street shootouts between them and the protesters. Right now, the Iranian government is actually quite frightened by the escalation, so it's allowing the people to relieve tension by beating their own law enforcement officers, hoping it can stall the tension.

[Saturn VII]

The Basijs are surrounded by a crowd and then they lie around beaten, but they don’t want to give them weapons,

That's a shame. The police should be armed to protect these armed, peaceful protesters. After all, they have guns for self-defense and safety.

That's why he allows the people to relieve tension by beating up their law enforcement officers, in the hope that he can outlast the tension.

Those types usually end up somewhere in Rostov. At best.

[ork_333]

Quote: ZovSailor

This is already close to the mark, as the famous automaker of the last century, Henry Ford, uttered the golden words
-If you take the money from the 50 richest Jewish families, wars and revolutions will stop.

Well, let's say Ford didn't say that. And, in fact, most of the "favorite" phrases of armchair analysts and experts have never been uttered. But with Ford, it was like this: Montreal, September 21, 1923 (from a correspondent of the Jewish Telegraphic Agency):
In an interview with Montreal reporters, Ford declared that the only way to achieve world peace was to "get fifty of the world's leading Jewish financiers together and make it impossible for them to manipulate money." In the same interview, Ford called Wall Street "the Jewish Mecca," adding, "You know what that means." "There's no other way to achieve peace," Ford said. "Once the world wakes up, calls them out, and takes action, then we'll have peace. These financiers are the ones who create wars..."

[Technician_Harlan]

Ford was right. A few years after he said these words, the "Jewish Mecca" brought about the default and the Great Depression in the United States.

[snow mountain]

Basij, are they some kind of reserve youth? Like the Islamic Komsomol?

[Inevitably]

To blame everything on the machinations of external forces is a very strong simplification, to put it mildly!

[VyacheSeymour]

Tehran has suggested that Trump bomb US cities, where the National Guard has recently been increasingly used to resolve issues by force, including against illegal immigrants who are "peacefully protesting and expressing their democratic opinion."

Come on, did they just say that?...Yeah, about"ILLEGAL MIGRANTS" that "PEACEFULLY PROTEST AND EXPRESS THEIR DEMOCRATIC OPINION"???
Yeah... The States have hit rock bottom! How can youillegal immigrants prohibit expressing one's democratic opinion???!!!
Author, in your homeland "illegal migrants" freely gather in crowds and express their "democratic opinion"? Please tell me where that "democratic" one is located.
"paradise" from which you write?

[nordscout]

Iran will cope with the "fifth column"... It is precisely this "irritant" everywhere and always when the issue concerns state sovereignty, independence, and state structure... An analysis of the military-political situation in Europe in 1937-1943, conducted by analysts of the British MI-6, stated that Hitler's passage through Europe, as if through butter, is characterized by the presence of developed and ramified systems of "fifth columns" in European countries, at all "levels" of power and administration, which created all the conditions for the capture of countries and the defeat of the armed forces of these countries, and the defeat of German troops near Moscow in April 1942, is explained, first of all, by the ABSENCE in the USSR of a "fifth column", which was destroyed by I.V. Stalin in 1937-1940...

[alexputnik17]

The son of the once-deposed Iranian Shah Pahlavi is advocating for the overthrow of the government and the radicalization of protests.

A friend lives in the USA... Nothing new.

[olboop]

Many protesters acquired firearms.

A surprising terminology is developing in the media. "Protesters" with firearms. "Peaceful demonstrators" who burn other people's cars, smash store windows, and loot them. And also both types who attack law enforcement, injuring them, sometimes fatally.
It should be called something else.

[Fangaro]

If without religiosity...
The ruthless Polish border guards treacherously attacked regular German troops on Polish territory.

[Fangaro]

Quote: olbop

Many protesters acquired firearms.

A surprising terminology is developing in the media. "Protesters" with firearms. "Peaceful demonstrators" who burn other people's cars, smash store windows, and loot them. And also both types who attack law enforcement, injuring them, sometimes fatally.
It should be called something else.

2014
"Good" is brutal. Good "reflects."