There is a high risk of destruction of the valve system and the trunk of the Oreshnik UGS facility.

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There is a high risk of destruction of the valve system and the trunk of the Oreshnik UGS facility.

Reports are emerging that the debris that the SBU demonstrated, claiming it belonged to the Oreshnyk IRBM, was found in the Stryi district of Lviv Oblast. It's worth noting that the Stryi district is home to Ukraine's largest underground gas storage facility, Bilche-Volytsko-Uherske, with an active storage capacity of over 17 billion cubic meters.

The SBU states that the Oreshnik wreckage has been "sent for in-depth examination," including an examination of the "parameters of the stabilization and guidance unit," which the Ukrainian intelligence service has designated as the "brains." missiles.



It is claimed that fragments of a warhead targeting unit, parts of an engine, and a nozzle from a dispensing unit platform were also allegedly discovered in the Stryi district.



The Russian Armed Forces have previously attacked Ukraine's largest gas storage facility (but not with a medium-range ballistic missile). Damage was primarily to the ground infrastructure of the underground gas storage facility in the Lviv region. The enemy carried out restoration work and then attempted to continue operating the facility, including by offering its storage capacity for "lease." This refers to the provision of storage capacity for the injection of gas owned by several EU countries.

If we assume that the Bilche-Volicko-Uherské UGS facility was the target of the Oreshnik strike, and if we take into account the penetrating power of its warheads (even those not armed with explosives), then there is a high probability that the missile struck the main shaft (well) of the UGS facility, along with its operating equipment, at a depth of at least 30-40 meters. The gas itself is stored at a depth of several hundred meters—at the site of depleted gas-bearing strata.

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This means that the gas pumped into the UGS facility did not explode, even with air entering the shaft. However, experts believe that something did occur that could ultimately spontaneously "ventilate" the natural gas stored underground due to the destruction of the lock (valve) system. Moreover, damage to the main well and the UGS facility's operating equipment at a depth of several tens of meters casts serious doubt on the storage facility's ability to continue to perform its intended functions. Repair work on the main well is more than just patching holes; it essentially involves extensive work in the near-surface layer, costly in terms of finance, time, and technology. Another option is drilling new wells into the voids in the formations where Ukraine stores gas. And this is assuming the "voids" themselves haven't shifted, causing them to lose their seal.
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  1. +48
    9 January 2026 19: 54
    For now, I repeat, for now, this is just guessing. Maybe they destroyed it, maybe they didn't, maybe they found parts of the missile, maybe they didn't. Only a specialist can identify the fragments shown, so let's wait and see, at least, the fate of this storage facility.
    1. +14
      9 January 2026 19: 58
      They write that residents of the surrounding area describe it as if there was an earthquake.
      It is possible that cracks have formed that indicate a gas leak.
      1. +7
        9 January 2026 20: 00
        Blacksmith55 hi We'll find out soon, but we need to be careful about believing these people, they'll make up even worse things for the sake of disinformation.
        1. +3
          9 January 2026 20: 21
          Whether the system was disabled or not, we'll find out later. The Crested Ones love to twist reality one way or another.
          .....is capable of eventually spontaneously "weathering" natural gas stored underground

          Well, there is a lot of room for manipulation here.
          1. +1
            9 January 2026 20: 24
            frruc, if you believe the statements from that side, they found too much stuff and preserved it, which was taken away for research, so you can't believe it here either.
            1. +11
              9 January 2026 20: 35
              But can’t you repeat it in the same place a couple more times?
              1. +7
                9 January 2026 20: 47
                I think we could try something cheaper now: if there are gas leaks, it might probably catch fire. Although... I'm no expert, so I don't know if it will go off or not.
                1. +3
                  9 January 2026 21: 02
                  Quote: Poplar
                  I think we could try something cheaper now: if there are gas leaks, it might probably catch fire. Although... I'm no expert, so I don't know if it will go off or not.

                  It definitely won't explode. Considering the underground gas storage facility contains methane (CH4). This gas is lighter than air, and an explosion can occur with an active gas-air mixture of 5 to 15% in a closed space. But if the barrel was damaged, which is most likely the case, everything would be trapped.
                2. +2
                  10 January 2026 05: 25
                  Initially, a Geranium or Iskander was supposed to be sent there to the hazel tree for ignition, with a pre-arranged approach time. So, the hazel tree leaks, and here, the fuse is ready. I think we had enough brains to figure this out without me. Perhaps not everything went according to plan, or we're missing something.
                  1. 0
                    10 January 2026 13: 31
                    The temperature of the hazelnut warheads is 4000+ degrees Celsius. Enough for the gas. I think the salvo didn't reach the gas or the storage facility.
                    1. 0
                      16 January 2026 05: 37
                      In fact, the Russian Ministry of Defense has already stated that the storage facility wasn't the target. So, let's go our separate ways. wink
                3. 0
                  10 January 2026 12: 45
                  Quote: Poplar
                  I think we could try something cheaper now: if there are gas leaks, it might probably catch fire. Although... I'm no expert, so I don't know if it will go off or not.

                  I agree. Ukraine is overcrowded with hazelnut trees. There are Geraniums, Iskanders, Kh-101 missiles, and Kinzhals...
              2. 0
                9 January 2026 20: 49
                Quote: Terenin
                But can’t you repeat it in the same place a couple more times?

                And preferably equipped with explosives.
                1. +3
                  10 January 2026 01: 19
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  Quote: Terenin
                  But can’t you repeat it in the same place a couple more times?
                  And preferably equipped with explosives.
                  So, in a gentle mode? The energy of a warhead consisting simply of a cast-iron blank, at the speeds specified for the Oreshnik, upon impact with a target, would be far greater than that of the explosives currently used in missile and shell warheads, as has already been discussed here on VO a hundred times.
                  1. +1
                    10 January 2026 03: 59
                    Quote: Bad_gr
                    It will release much more than the explosives currently used in the warheads of missiles and shells, which has already been discussed here on VO 100 times.

                    A small detail: kinetic energy is released as the warhead slows down in the rock.
                    And explosives can release energy after they stop.
                    If we talk about mass, then instead of 7 separating blocks, you can send just one...
                    The ratio of the mass of the blank and light explosives allows for a good approach to the maximum load-bearing capacity due to a small saving in the weight of cast iron and its replacement with explosives.
                    In general, crowbars are used as anti-tank projectiles and they make good holes, but the damage is not so great.
                    1. +2
                      10 January 2026 12: 36
                      Quote from tsvetahaki
                      And explosives can release energy after they stop.
                      But it's not a given that explosives will even work under these conditions. What is an explosion? A chemical reaction occurring at supersonic speed (as I understand it). And if a warhead collides with an obstacle at 5-7 times the speed of sound? It won't have time to explode before it turns into plasma. A bar of soap of the same weight and arriving at the same speed would release the same amount of energy.
                      Where am I mistaken?
                      1. -1
                        11 January 2026 00: 29
                        Before it can explode, it will turn into plasma.

                        Plasma, alas, doesn't make deep holes... As in spacecraft, the insides are thermally insulated from the surface (unless they're solid cast iron, of course).
                        Quote: Bad_gr
                        What if the warhead collides with an obstacle at a speed of 5-7 times the speed of sound?

                        It's not speed that matters, but acceleration. Penetrating projectiles (the serious ones) use nuclear warheads, which are MUCH more delicate. They are triggered by explosives.
                        The real issue is that there's just not enough energy to do everything. There aren't any specialized drone systems developed here—they're just hanging on to whatever's available, let alone developing something serious in parallel...
                      2. 0
                        11 January 2026 16: 00
                        The detonation speed of the explosive is 7-8 km/s, which is certainly greater than that of a kinetic block in the atmosphere!
                      3. 0
                        11 January 2026 17: 35
                        Quote: Scalpel
                        The detonation speed of the explosive is 7-8 km/s, which is certainly greater than that of a kinetic block in the atmosphere!
                        Thanks for the correction. The internet reveals the following on this topic:
                        Typical values ​​for detonation velocity: 
                        Gas mixtures: 1000 - 3500 m/s (for example, \(2H_{2}+O_{2}\) - 2820 m/s, \(CH_{4}+2O_{2}\) - 2320 m/s).
                        Liquid explosives: Can reach 7000-8000 m/s (for example, nitroglycerin 7750 m/s).
                        Solid industrial explosives: 2500 - 6500 m/s.
                        Powerful chemical explosives: 7000 - 9000 m/s (for example, for C-4 it can be up to 8000 m/s or higher, depending on the density). 
                        The Oreshnik warhead's Mach 10 speed is 12,380 km/h, or 3,439 m/s. In other words, depending on the mission, the use of explosives in the Oreshnik warhead may be necessary.
                  2. +3
                    10 January 2026 08: 42
                    when hitting a target, it will release much more explosives than the explosives currently used in missile and shell warheads


                    It's important to understand where the epicenter of destruction from the use of a blank will occur. You saw the smooth holes in the roofs of the Yuzhmash workshops, about 3-4 meters in diameter, while the workshops themselves are located above ground... And then they explained to us that all the destruction was deep underground, where underground facilities had been built.
                    I looked at the data for this UGS facility in Stryi. Its depth from the surface is 800 meters, beyond the reach of even a nuclear bomb. This means that our best hope lies in ground shifts at the surface, damaging the gas injection and extraction pipes into the storage facility—the wells. But there may be several such wells at the facility, and the larger the UGS facility, the more of them there are. I haven't yet found any information on how many wells this UGS facility has.
                    Found:
                    It's possible they were referring to the Bilche-Volytsko-Uherske underground gas storage facility (UGS), located in the Stryi district of the Lviv region. According to one source, this UGS facility includes 341 production wells.
                    1. +1
                      10 January 2026 12: 54
                      Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
                      According to information from one source, this UGS facility includes 341 production wells.
                      It would be interesting to know why they decided to hit this object with the Oreshnik missile and not the Kinzhal missile or something similar?
                      1. +5
                        10 January 2026 13: 04
                        Vladimir, skim through this comment thread or pick out what I wrote earlier... This underground gas storage facility has already been hit twice before, with both Kinzhal and Kalibr missiles... I even provided the exact dates of these strikes by year and what our media wrote at the time about the "complete and final" destruction of this facility.
                        But it's now clear that even a nuclear bomb wouldn't be enough to reach the storage facility itself, located at a depth of 800 meters, and damage 341 gas extraction and injection wells. All hope lies in causing severe damage with long-term restoration. But exactly a year has passed since the last strike with Kinzhal and Kalibr missiles, and a third strike with Oreshnik missiles has been necessary.
                        Perhaps we have a completely wrong idea about the destructive power of such strikes, and the fault lies with our journalistic scribblers who write like this.
                      2. +1
                        10 January 2026 14: 01
                        Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
                        Vladimir, skim through this comment thread or pick out what I wrote earlier...
                        I'll do that now (at the moment, I haven't read the entire thread)
                      3. 0
                        10 January 2026 14: 12
                        Vladimir, I'll clarify that the biggest discussion on this matter was under a different article.

                        https://topwar.ru/276153-udar-pustoj-bolvankoj-oreshnika-stoit-li-perezhivat-o-tom-chto-bez-vzryvchatki.html#findcomment15740022
                      4. +1
                        10 January 2026 17: 35
                        Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
                        https://topwar.ru/276153-udar-pustoj-bolvankoj-oreshnika-stoit-li-perezhivat-o-tom-chto-bez-vzryvchatki.html#findcomment15740022
                        Thanks for the reference
          2. +5
            9 January 2026 20: 35
            Quote: frruc
            there is a wide field for manipulation here

            And even more broadly, to conceal the theft of gas, which, by the way, belonged to “European partners.”
            1. +17
              9 January 2026 21: 39
              Can a Ukrainian steal?! That can't happen!! lol lol
              1. +1
                10 January 2026 09: 48
                Of course not! These are Katsap spies out to frame honest Central Europeans.
      2. +7
        9 January 2026 20: 36
        Quote: Blacksmith 55
        Residents of the surrounding area describe... that there is a gas leak.

        Are you sure it's already odorized? If not, then "residents of the area" won't be able to detect the leak without specialized equipment.
        1. +11
          9 January 2026 20: 41
          Are you sure it's already odorized there?
          Odorants aren't added to the main gas pipeline system. It's pure gas. So residents of the surrounding villages won't notice anything.
          1. +3
            9 January 2026 20: 42
            I assumed so too, but I didn't know for sure.
        2. +7
          9 January 2026 23: 47
          Quote: Asper_Daffy
          "Residents of the surrounding area" cannot detect the leak without special equipment.

          They can. laughing Using matches or a lighter.
          1. +3
            10 January 2026 09: 48
            And these are already "special devices"!
      3. 0
        10 January 2026 00: 17
        There's even a video showing the gas pressure dropping drastically, even the stoves are barely lit, and the boilers shut down immediately. So, what's the deal?
        It can't burn inside, there's no oxygen, but the gas is leaking out, and very quickly. A Geranium with "lighters" should have been sent in after a while, when more of the gas had dispersed into the surrounding area. am
        1. +2
          10 January 2026 02: 47
          Quote: Evgeny64
          There's even a video showing the gas pressure dropping drastically, even the stoves are barely lit, and the boilers shut down immediately. So, what's the deal?

          The drop in main gas pressure will not affect the stoves.
    2. +3
      9 January 2026 20: 57
      Quote: Murmur 55
      Let's wait and see, at least the fate of this storage facility
      Or maybe we'll never find out. The owners of the gas storage facility will pretend that everything is working, but right now they're carrying out scheduled maintenance on [think of something suitable], naturally with a temporary (well, very temporary) shutdown of gas supplies to consumers.
      1. +7
        9 January 2026 21: 29
        Or maybe we'll never find out. The owners of the gas storage facility will pretend that everything is working, but right now they're carrying out scheduled maintenance on [think of something suitable], naturally with a temporary (well, very temporary) shutdown of gas supplies to consumers.
        ........
        I read in "KP" that there are about 200 companies holding gas there. Pretending everything is fine won't work then. Someone will start screaming.
    3. +4
      9 January 2026 21: 51
      The consequences of the hazelnut fire in Dnepropetrovsk were never shown, and that's a city, but here somewhere on the outskirts, we definitely won't know unless those who stored the gas start screaming.
    4. 0
      9 January 2026 23: 43
      Quote: Murmur 55
      FOR NOW this is just fortune telling on coffee grounds

      Are you expecting a multi-volume analysis of the results signed by the Ministry of Defense's leaders on the second day? The cries from Europe are worth listening to. Their refusal to lease the facilities will speak volumes.
    5. +2
      10 January 2026 08: 51
      I looked at the data for this underground gas storage facility. Here's what Alice said:
      It's possible they were referring to the Bilche-Volytsko-Uherske underground gas storage facility (UGS), located in the Stryi district of the Lviv region. According to one source, this UGS facility includes 341 production wells.
      The underground gas storage facility itself is located at a depth of 800 meters, and it's now clear that its complete destruction can only be achieved by wiping out everything on the surface. The 341 wells are likely scattered kilometers apart, but the compressors and pumps are clustered together. But they were already hit twice, in April 2024 and January 2025, by Kinzhal and Kalibr missiles. So it turns out they weren't finished off then...
  2. -8
    9 January 2026 19: 59
    Announce the date of the freezing of the xoxls, why all these boring details?
    1. +2
      10 January 2026 00: 22
      Klitschko called on everyone to leave Kyiv now. They're shutting off the water supply and draining the heating systems. This is happening on both banks now. The restoration timeline is unknown.
      Arranges? belay
    2. +4
      10 January 2026 03: 31
      Pedalik said that to avoid freezing, you need to sit in the corner of the room, where it's 90 degrees. 😁
  3. +3
    9 January 2026 20: 00
    The SBU... designated the Oreshnik debris... as the "brains" of the missile.
    You'd think the brainless pigs from the SBU would understand this.
    1. +6
      9 January 2026 20: 03
      Earl hi If the information is true, then I think Western specialists are already lined up in order of rank.
    2. +4
      9 January 2026 20: 17
      They only voiced it, but there are people who can figure it out, like the engineers from Yuzhmash.
  4. +1
    9 January 2026 20: 07
    That's right. If there's propane in the storage facility, it will leak out of the tank and flow down, filling ravines, lowlands, and basements... Let it leak out. In a couple of days, we'll send a lighter of some sort after Oreshnik.
    1. +8
      9 January 2026 20: 34
      If there are volumes of propane in the storage

      Natural gas is almost 100% methane.
      1. +4
        9 January 2026 23: 29
        Natural gas in Ukrainian storage facilities mainly consists of methane (about 70-90%), with admixtures of heavier hydrocarbons (ethane, propane, butane) and a small amount of non-hydrocarbon impurities,
    2. 0
      10 January 2026 12: 56
      Quote: Umptek
      If there are volumes of propane in storage...

      Natural gas contains 1-2% propane. It is mainly methane.
  5. +8
    9 January 2026 20: 07
    Meanwhile, CBS reports that American teenager Nikita Kasap killed his parents (stepfather and mother) to obtain money to assassinate Donald Trump. He took $14,000 and a firearm. He was 17 years old.



    Donya, you'll get what you deserve. Your ears won't be enough anytime soon...
    1. +1
      9 January 2026 20: 14
      Meanwhile, CBS reports that American teenager Nikita Kasap killed his parents to get money to kill Donald Trump. He took $14,000 and a shooting spree. He was 17 years old.
      What kind of things did Donald even drive teenagers to? His name sounds more Slavic.
      1. +10
        9 January 2026 20: 17
        So he's from the "conscious" group... his mother is from there. His stepfather is American. He fell for the Ukrainian woman. She and her son received American citizenship. The boy went crazy because of everything... apparently he was very "conscious".
        1. +7
          9 January 2026 21: 43
          Svidomost and ukromoyva destroy a person’s brain. sad
          1. +4
            9 January 2026 22: 00
            That's true: my wife's uncle is a purebred Tatar. He married a Ukrainian woman and became a true Ukrainian.
    2. +4
      9 January 2026 20: 14
      Nexcom hi Such a "killer" is doomed, such characters are removed by other shooters and completely different people are involved, not mentally unstable 17-year-olds, although version 2.0 of Lee Harvey would be ideal for the role, but only as a "screen."
      1. +2
        9 January 2026 20: 18
        Yes, it’s clear that he wouldn’t even have reached the corner, Ropot 55 hi
        It's just a trend, though. Even the "conscious" ones want to kill Donya already...

        No, it's definitely not Oswald 2.0...
        What's needed here is something Russian, with a medallion of Putin's patriotic image, who would be shot on the spot. It would be nice if there were tattoos—"I love Russia!" and "Death to all Americans!" lol something like this...
        1. +1
          9 January 2026 20: 28
          Nexcom, well, these scabies have been really disliking Mr. "Perfection" since he came to power, so there's no need to be surprised. And we should send "the child of Belarus," Jordani Jovanovich, to Donald. laughing How I cried with laughter when he said this line in the film.
    3. -8
      9 January 2026 20: 49
      Yesterday in Moscow, today in Vladivostok, tomorrow in Rostov, and today in St. Petersburg. What for?
    4. +1
      9 January 2026 20: 53
      Meanwhile, CBS reports that American teenager Nikita Kasap killed his parents (stepfather and mother) to obtain money to assassinate Donald Trump. He took $14,000 and a firearm. He was 17 years old.
      If I'm not mistaken, what CBS described was news about six months ago. Does this CBS reporter, by any chance, have hot Estonian guys on their staff?
      1. 0
        9 January 2026 20: 55
        Well, they just published it in KP today.
        Another option is that the investigation was ongoing at that time and the killer only just cracked. request

        or they dig up old stuff in the command post...
        I provided the link above - it's from a couple of hours ago
        1. +2
          9 January 2026 20: 57
          Another option: hot Estonian guys in KP :-)
          1. 0
            9 January 2026 20: 58
            Yes That could also be... laughing

            yes, short, short, damn
            1. 0
              9 January 2026 21: 02
              I just did some digging around on the internet. The news was in mid-April last year, and now the news is that he admitted his guilt. That's how it goes.
              1. 0
                9 January 2026 21: 03
                Well, there you go. So he confessed to everything. Or at least they asked him to confess. So it turns out they asked him for almost a year...
              2. -1
                9 January 2026 23: 37
                Quote: Poplar
                The news was in mid-April last year

                Maybe April 1st? "Nikita Katz Up" is really confusing.
                1. 0
                  10 January 2026 02: 11
                  Seek and ye shall find. If you're too lazy to search the internet yourself, I have nothing more to say.
    5. 0
      10 January 2026 00: 32
      So it happened almost a year ago. February 11, 2025.
  6. -13
    9 January 2026 20: 11
    I wonder why the strike was again carried out with blocks of blanks instead of warheads. It seems the main goal wasn't to inflict maximum damage, but to deliver a retaliatory strike.
    1. +1
      9 January 2026 20: 54
      Loading it with regular explosives is pointless. The kinetic energy of a dummy charge is sufficient. But what about the SBC? The VPR won't do that.
    2. bar
      +1
      9 January 2026 21: 54
      Quote from lako
      It’s interesting why the attack was again carried out with blocks of blanks, instead of a warhead.

      After all, the kinetic energy of a "blank" at hypersonic speed is many times greater than the energy of an explosive of the same mass. Furthermore, placing explosives inside the "blank" will greatly weaken its structure and reduce its explosive effect. Or were you hinting at a nuclear warhead? But the time hasn't come yet; they'll still be useful.
    3. +3
      9 January 2026 23: 00
      Quote from lako
      It’s interesting why the attack was again carried out with blocks of blanks, instead of a warhead.

      It seems like people who ask such questions never went to physics class at school.
      1. 0
        10 January 2026 10: 54
        What's the point of using this multi-million dollar dummy launcher? Perhaps only to destroy buried bunkers. Zeli, for example. But yeah, it looks great on video.
    4. 0
      10 January 2026 09: 28
      A bit of an analogy: subcaliber projectiles have a tungsten or depleted uranium core.
  7. +5
    9 January 2026 20: 12
    The Oreshnik wreckage was "sent for in-depth examination," including an examination of the "parameters of the stabilization and guidance unit," which the Ukrainian intelligence service described as the "brains" of the missile.

    What the hell is this? Yeah, there was also a chip from my toaster. I admit it.
    1. +4
      9 January 2026 20: 24
      ...that's it. The SBU is guaranteed to hunt you down. Yes
      1. +9
        9 January 2026 20: 27
        Come on, don't give me up. My grandchildren gave me a new sofa and I'll still fight.
        1. +5
          9 January 2026 20: 28
          What does this have to do with me? I'm not from Tsipso. There are plenty of them here.

          Is the sofa self-propelled and self-guided? laughing Ah, what a dream!
          1. +3
            9 January 2026 20: 30
            A fully-equipped sofa. Including troll-proofing.
  8. +6
    9 January 2026 20: 19
    Quote: Umptek
    That's right. If there's propane in the storage facility, it will leak out of the tank and flow down, filling ravines, lowlands, and basements... Let it leak out. In a couple of days, we'll send a lighter of some sort after Oreshnik.

    This is a storage facility for natural gas CH4, which has a density of 0,73 kg/m3. What does your propane have to do with it?
    1. +1
      9 January 2026 20: 23
      Methane is methane, but under certain conditions it can explode - the same disaster near Ufa
      1. +2
        9 January 2026 20: 33
        Most likely, there won't be enough pressure. Near Ufa, they pumped pressure through a hole in the pipe into the lowland where the trains met. The underground gas storage facility likely doesn't have that kind of pressure.
        1. +1
          9 January 2026 20: 49
          It's not just pressure, it's also a question of volume... but in my opinion, when gas facilities are hit, there should be a fire. It's one thing when something there depressurizes itself, and another thing is an external impact, this isn't SP-2 underwater.
  9. 0
    9 January 2026 20: 29
    Let's hope that Russia does not allow further use of this gas storage facility!
    Then the West will be much more accommodating ))))))
  10. +4
    9 January 2026 20: 29
    If they destroyed it, that’s very good; if they damaged it badly, that’s also not bad.
  11. +1
    9 January 2026 20: 40
    This means that the explosion of the volume of gas pumped into the underground gas storage facility did not occur even if air entered the shaft, however, as experts believe,
    What, could it have happened?
  12. +8
    9 January 2026 20: 51
    that there was no explosion of the entire volume of gas pumped into the underground gas storage facility
    ..,
    It will never explode. It's gas, not an explosive mixture with oxygen (air).

    If a hazelnut punctures a hole (breaks the valves) and the gas ignites at the outlet, it will burn until it burns out.
  13. +6
    9 January 2026 20: 51
    How did the guidance unit, having crashed into the target at a speed of 13 km/sec, not turn into dust?
    1. +1
      9 January 2026 21: 00
      The guidance unit is not on the warhead, but on the targeting platform. The warhead is a simple cone.
      1. +9
        9 January 2026 21: 18
        Quote: iomoe
        How did the guidance unit, having crashed into the target at a speed of 13 km/sec, not turn into dust?

        Quote: voyaka uh
        The guidance unit is not on the warhead, but on the targeting platform. The warhead is a simple cone.

        The platform, or warhead—they fly at the same speed. Essentially, they're one unit until they separate.
        Accordingly, upon impact (instantaneous deceleration, to zero), the kinetic energy is converted into heat. Exactly the same principle as these cone-shaped warheads.
        Well, at least that's how it should be, according to the laws of physics.
        So, yes, I have the same question: how could any element of Oreshnik have survived?
        1. +2
          10 January 2026 00: 23
          Definitely. But you won't be able to prove it to him. It's pointless.
          sdivt
          (Vyacheslav)
          +3
          Yesterday, 21: 18
          The platform, or warhead—they fly at the same speed. Essentially, they're one unit until they separate.
          .
      2. +1
        9 January 2026 23: 04
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The guidance unit is not on the warhead, but on the targeting platform

        So the "bus," or booster stage, fires on the ascending leg of the trajectory and then goes off to the side. Then the thrusters on the rocket heads merely refine the direction. So, this unit should have burned up in the atmosphere.
    2. +2
      9 January 2026 21: 05
      Don't expose the office. Let them believe they found the targeting unit. wink
    3. +1
      10 January 2026 00: 16
      not 13 km/sec but 5-6 M
      it's no more than 2 km per second
  14. -1
    9 January 2026 21: 02
    In the previous article, we discussed it, people said that at such speeds there would be melted metal and plastic, and Putin said there would be a pile of gravel.
    Regarding restoration work: does the 404 have the repair expertise? If they did, IMHO, they're probably buried in a field.
  15. +1
    9 January 2026 21: 08
    Quote: Murmur 55
    Earl, if the information is true, then I think Western specialists are already lined up in order of rank.

    I think if there were fragments left, they wouldn't be talking and posting photos. feel
  16. -9
    9 January 2026 21: 12
    Where are the Russian Ministry of Defense's satellite images with georeferenced coordinates???? After every crime committed by Kyiv on Russian territory, such images appear in their media the next day. And where are ours? Do we even have photo reconnaissance satellites??!!!
    1. +1
      9 January 2026 23: 05
      Quote: Yuri L
      Where are the satellite images from the Russian Ministry of Defense with coordinates?

      And for what purpose are you interested in?
  17. +4
    9 January 2026 21: 17
    If an attempt fails, you can always try again. In fact, even this level of accuracy is epic for a ballistic missile. In any case, the use of the UGH is impossible.
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  19. +3
    9 January 2026 22: 19
    There are MARS satellites that detect methane leaks. If large emissions occur or have already occurred, they will be recorded by the satellites.
  20. +5
    9 January 2026 22: 35
    What brains, microchips, debris? Correct me, but at that impact speed, the kinetic energy would have converted all of this into plasma or something close to it. Key figures, please comment.
    1. +2
      10 January 2026 06: 59
      Yes, you're right, collecting "spare parts" from "Oreshnik" there is a bluff, at most, shapeless melted metal scraps, nothing more...

      In this case, a photo of some pipe lying in the snow, not a dent under it, not a thawed patch, is the ravings of a gray mare and an attempt to "excite" panic-mongers who will run around the ceiling with a scalded butt and scream "everything is lost." fool

      Think about it: at hypersonic speed, simple metal crashes into the earth's surface with enormous kinetic energy, similar to a BOPS or a bullet (they also don't contain explosives, they're also inert, but due to their speed and kinetics, they cause hellish destruction), while also being destroyed (bullets melt, BOPSs crumble)...
      And here, the supposedly found spare parts are lying covered in snow, without any damage or other consequences of a collision at hypersonic speed. laughing
      1. 0
        10 January 2026 12: 51
        Quote: megafair
        And here, the supposedly found spare parts are lying covered in snow, without any damage or other consequences of a collision at hypersonic speed.

        And since Russia needs to be shown some kind of failure to its population, then for the mere idea of ​​passing off parts of gas equipment as hazelnuts one can receive gratitude from the authorities, or even a medal with a bonus laughing
  21. +3
    9 January 2026 22: 52
    The hardware looks like servos. I don't think such hardware would be used to control a combat unit at 13000 km/h; it would likely be used as a steering servo in a drone or an anti-aircraft missile.
    1. +1
      10 January 2026 06: 55
      Yes, you're right. In this case, a photo of some pipe lying in the snow, not a dent underneath, not a thawed patch, is pure nonsense and an attempt to "wake up" panic-mongers who will run around the ceiling with scalded butts and scream, "Everything's lost." fool

      Think about it: at hypersonic speed, simple metal crashes into the earth's surface with enormous kinetic energy, similar to a BOPS or a bullet (they also don't contain explosives, they're also inert, but due to their speed and kinetics, they cause hellish destruction), while also being destroyed (bullets melt, BOPSs crumble)...
      And here, the supposedly found spare parts are lying covered in snow, without any damage or other consequences of a collision at hypersonic speed. laughing
  22. +3
    9 January 2026 23: 06
    The Oreshnik strike was carried out in the area of ​​Lviv Airport and the Lviv State Aircraft Repair Plant.
    1. +2
      10 January 2026 11: 01
      Quote: Sergey3
      The Oreshnik strike was carried out in the area of ​​Lviv airport and the Lviv State Aircraft Repair Plant.

      Apparently, yes, information came from Ukraine that Oreshnik was hit not by the underground gas storage facility, where it was, it was not announced, this is the first time I hear about it from you.
  23. +5
    9 January 2026 23: 30
    Do you think that with such volumes of gas, there is only one shaft at this UGS facility?
    1. +4
      10 January 2026 03: 51
      Do you think that with such volumes of gas, there is only one shaft at this UGS facility?

      Of course not. Dozens or even hundreds of shafts. The author of the article has no idea how underground gas storage facilities actually work. Well fires are put out by using explosions.
      1. +2
        10 January 2026 10: 56
        Quote from Andy_nsk
        Dozens or even hundreds of barrels. The author of this article has no idea about the actual structure of underground gas storage facilities.

        That's right:
        This UGS facility has 341 wells over an area of ​​75 square kilometers, none of which were damaged by the impact. The compressors, which are located in one place, are destroyed, after which the UGS facility cannot operate, the wells are automatically shut off, and the gas in the pipes burns out.
      2. 0
        14 January 2026 07: 55
        About the author - spot on! Those who "have no idea," but who speak correctly, are numerous - not even one - the majority, with rare exceptions.
  24. -1
    10 January 2026 00: 23
    There's no harm in dreaming. There's no multi-day fire. The target isn't hit.
    1. 0
      10 January 2026 08: 41
      Even simple statistics on movement and gas flow will eventually show whether the underground gas storage facility is working or...
  25. -2
    10 January 2026 01: 38
    This is complete nonsense, our generals will never strike with certainty, so there is no way we can just chew on this for a few more years.
  26. +1
    10 January 2026 02: 09
    In 1971, Soviet geologists were drilling a well in the Karakum Desert of Tajikistan when enormous pressure in the formation ruptured and pushed the drilling rig aside, causing gas to gush for a couple of years. For a couple of years, metals in the surrounding area oxidized and rusted, causing many unpleasant consequences. They had to drill a slanted well, lowering several train cars of explosives into the well and blunting the gas gusher. But gas still leaks in small amounts, and this gas was ignited. This flare, called the "GATES OF HELL," is still active, meaning it has been burning for 55 years and is a tourist attraction. This is in response to speculation about whether the gas in the Ukrainian storage facility will burn and the consequences of a leak.
    1. 0
      10 January 2026 03: 13
      Quote: rotfuks
      And this torch is still active and is called the GATES OF HELL,

      You have confused different things into one - the Karakum Desert, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, the Gates of Hell and the oil rig fire.
      1. 0
        10 January 2026 12: 08
        You have confused different things into one - Karakum, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan
        Sorry, I always confuse Tajikistan with Turkmenistan. They look the same to me.
        1. +1
          10 January 2026 12: 38
          Quote: rotfuks
          You have confused different things into one - Karakum, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan
          Sorry, I always confuse Tajikistan with Turkmenistan. They look the same to me.

          Hmm, confusing them is like confusing a black person with a Finn.
          1. 0
            10 January 2026 20: 03
            confusing them is like confusing a black person with a Finn
            It's not hard to confuse a black person with a Finn. I once went fishing in Finland, and the Finns have a lot of dark-skinned children, and Finnish women clearly interact very closely with black people. I don't know if these are the same black people who sailed to Europe in rubber boats or if Finland has its own black region, but when a group of children from a Finnish kindergarten walks through town, more than half of them are very dark-skinned.
    2. 0
      10 January 2026 12: 45
      You will not believe but
      At the Uherské oil and gas field, which is currently equipped as
      underground gas storage, after opening the horizon at a drilling depth of 1053 m
      the release of clay solution and drilling equipment, resulting in the start of an open pit
      gas flow from the well, which continued for a year. As a result of this
      The accident created a circular depression with a diameter of approximately 50 m on the earth's surface.
      and a depth of 8 m.


      Also, probably in the 70s. Maybe in the 80s...
    3. +1
      10 January 2026 20: 37
      The Urtabulak gas field in Uzbekistan. During drilling, a gas reservoir was encountered under pressure of 30-35 MPa (approximately 300-350 atm). The drill string was forced out of the well, and the escaping gas ignited. A 120-meter-high flare burned for nearly three years, and during this time, unsuccessful attempts were made to extinguish the fire, but the well was sealed by detonating an underground thermonuclear device.
      charge.
      see, for example https://xn--b1ae4ad.xn--p1ai/calendar/1963-12-1_kak-sovetskie-fiziki-likvidirovali-ognennyy-gazovyy-smerch-bushevavshiy-1034-dnya
  27. +2
    10 January 2026 02: 16
    Or is it all just a farce?
  28. +2
    10 January 2026 03: 01
    Somehow I think there is more than just one barrel there...
    1. -2
      10 January 2026 06: 51
      There's no point in constructing more than one production well—read up on how UGS systems work. There may be several injection wells, but they're not suitable for extraction, as they're used only for technical purposes, ensuring uniform gas distribution within the reservoir.
      1. +1
        10 January 2026 10: 50
        Quote: megafair
        There is no point in developing more than one production well.

        There are 341 wells at the UGS facility covering an area of ​​75 square kilometers.
      2. +1
        10 January 2026 12: 22
        Quote: megafair
        There may be several injection ones, but they are not suitable for selection,

        Suitable, under certain conditions.
  29. 0
    10 January 2026 03: 23
    Apparently, just like after the first strike, no one will even show satellite images. Either there's no effect at all, or there are no satellites left.
    1. 0
      10 January 2026 06: 46
      If there was no effect, then the enemy himself would have shown the photos, and since they prohibit filming, cordon off the area, etc., then there is an effect there and it is quite impressive. laughing
      1. -2
        10 January 2026 11: 56
        So, we don’t have any satellites left?
      2. 0
        11 January 2026 12: 51
        From the taiga to the British seas, the Red Army is the strongest of all!!!
        So goes a famous song... Hmm, but still, the most famous memorials to those killed in wars are the largest in Russia. Maybe we don't know how to fight? Our neighboring partners are far too quick to forget past events and the inconveniences wars bring. I think it's time to create conditions for our adversaries to build memorials to MEMORY. Or maybe we don't see them (our adversaries), that we're attacking the tops, not the roots.
  30. +1
    10 January 2026 06: 44
    laughing In this case, a photo of some pipe lying in the snow, not a dent under it, not a thawed patch, is the ravings of a gray mare and an attempt to "excite" panic-mongers who will run around the ceiling with a scalded butt and scream "everything is lost." fool

    Think about it: at hypersonic speed, simple metal crashes into the earth's surface with enormous kinetic energy, similar to a BOPS or a bullet (they also don't contain explosives, they're also inert, but due to their speed and kinetics, they cause hellish destruction), while also being destroyed (bullets melt, BOPSs crumble)...
    And here, the supposedly found spare parts are lying covered in snow, without any damage or other consequences of a collision at hypersonic speed. laughing

    In short, we'll see what information about the valve and well damage comes out in the coming days. We'll be able to tell based on whether gas shortages in Ukraine become (or don't become) severe...
    And then we can draw conclusions, but collecting "spare parts" from the "Nut" there is a bluff, at most shapeless melted metal scraps, nothing more...
    1. +1
      10 January 2026 14: 33
      But collecting "spare parts" from "Oreshnik" there is a bluff, at most some shapeless melted metal scraps, nothing more...

      Don't confuse the warhead, where the rods penetrate the atmosphere and the ground at hypersonic speeds, with the missile itself, with all its control and propulsion units, which slows down and disintegrates in the air.
  31. +3
    10 January 2026 08: 02
    Telegram is already reporting that the strike hit a certain facility where drones were assembled. Who should we believe now? We're waiting for more accurate information and satellite imagery.
  32. 0
    10 January 2026 08: 59
    Quote: voyaka uh
    The guidance unit is not on the warhead, but on the targeting platform. The warhead is a simple cone.

    Absolutely right, and if the block's cone is made of uranium, following the US example, then in addition to the kinetics, there will also be an incendiary effect and a slightly increased radiation level. Yugoslavia and Iraq suffered, and Ukraine will suffer too.
    1. 0
      10 January 2026 09: 50
      Quote from: mad-max78
      keen

      Well, that cone will either be torn or damaged.
      This is not "a little bit elevated", these are really bad dust particles.
      This is actually why they criticized American shells; they pollute quite a lot.
  33. +1
    10 January 2026 09: 23
    It is possible that size of explosive warhead and terminal speed exclude eachother.
    Put in another way: the absence of explosive warhead was needed to achieve the high speed necessary to avoid interception.
    Also, a high speed means heating up to high temperatures.
    Explosive materials may already burn/detonate underway.
    A nuclear warhead doesn't pose this risk since it's based on bringing fission material together to form the required critical mass.

    So, it's likely that the Oreshnik concept, which emphasizes speed, is the same as the antitank long rod penetration concept, that is, slamming through everything, but in a case with no armor, it just goes through without leaving much damage - an entry hole, and in the case of an enclosure, an exit hole.
    The satellite images of the first Oreshnik usage showed precisely that: some holes in a roof, and that was it.
    So, in order to inflict alot damage, it needs burnable material or explosives at the target, that then inflict the by far biggest deal of the damage, much like the ammunition compartment in a tank turret.

    Which is the same case as with drones: these carry relatively small amounts of explosives, in order to inflict serious damage, they need to hit and ignite burnable or explosive stuff from the target itself.

    This same requirement serves as another explanation: without burnables, explosives, even an air defense hit on an Oreshnik submunition does little to it, because the kinetic energy of the interceptor is just a little fraction of the one of the Oreshniks submunition so it will not alter its course and speed much.
    At best it could break / scatter the submunition, but the parts will just continue their course, since they are dense / heavy.

    In short: the Oreshnik is a weapon relying on targets that possess their own destruction means.
    It guarantees a hit / a hole / a penetration, and that's all that is guaranteed.
  34. -2
    10 January 2026 09: 48
    This means that the explosion of the volume of gas pumped into the UGS did not occur even with air access to the shaft,

    There was a flaw, apparently there was not enough energy, they did not reach the cavity.
    And so it is an ideal weapon for the destruction of oil and gas fields.
    1. 0
      10 January 2026 10: 11
      Anything that has onboard its own means of destruction that is conventionally ignitable.
      An Oreshnik delivers over a very long range a barrage of penetrators heated up by air friction to some thousands of degrees.
      If one would hit Zelensky on his head he would become a tube but still recognizable.
    2. +2
      10 January 2026 12: 35
      Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
      There was a flaw, apparently there was not enough energy, they did not reach the cavity.

      there is no cavity as such.

      Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
      And so it is an ideal weapon for the destruction of oil and gas fields.

      No. Oil and gas fields can technically only be destroyed by a system of explosive devices, preferably nuclear ones, installed in wells. And even that is a slow process, to say the least.
      Ah, there is another way... in theory - you need to pump the deposit, again through wells, with oxygen and supply a spark laughing
      1. -2
        10 January 2026 16: 55
        Quote: bot.su
        No. Oil and gas fields can technically only be destroyed by a system of explosive devices, preferably nuclear ones, installed in wells. And even that is a slow process, to say the least.


        Well, the Americans allegedly pierced hundreds of meters of granite with bombs in Iran.
        Why wouldn't Oreshnik break through the simple soil and ignite the deposit?
        1. +2
          10 January 2026 17: 29
          Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
          Well, the Americans allegedly pierced hundreds of meters of granite with bombs in Iran.

          The key word is "supposedly".
          Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
          Why wouldn't Oreshnik break through the simple soil and ignite the deposit?

          Even if the soil is broken through, the deposit cannot be ignited; there will not be enough oxygen.

          In general, destroying a deposit is an expensive, time-consuming and pointless pleasure.
          In the case of UGS, it is enough to thoroughly scratch the ground infrastructure.
  35. 0
    10 January 2026 09: 51
    Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
    Quote from: mad-max78
    keen

    Well, that cone will either be torn or damaged.
    This is not "a little bit elevated", these are really bad dust particles.
    This is actually why they criticized American shells; they pollute quite a lot.

    exactly like this and no other way))
  36. 0
    10 January 2026 09: 54
    Quote: Pleiades
    It is possible that size of explosive warhead and terminal speed exclude eachother.
    Put in another way: the absence of explosive warhead was needed to achieve the high speed necessary to avoid interception.
    Also, a high speed means heating up to high temperatures.
    Explosive materials may already burn/detonate underway.
    A nuclear warhead doesn't pose this risk since it's based on bringing fission material together to form the required critical mass.

    So, it's likely that the Oreshnik concept, which emphasizes speed, is the same as the antitank long rod penetration concept, that is, slamming through everything, but in a case with no armor, it just goes through without leaving much damage - an entry hole, and in the case of an enclosure, an exit hole.
    The satellite images of the first Oreshnik usage showed precisely that: some holes in a roof, and that was it.
    So, in order to inflict alot damage, it needs burnable material or explosives at the target, that then inflict the by far biggest deal of the damage, much like the ammunition compartment in a tank turret.

    Which is the same case as with drones: these carry relatively small amounts of explosives, in order to inflict serious damage, they need to hit and ignite burnable or explosive stuff from the target itself.

    This same requirement serves as another explanation: without burnables, explosives, even an air defense hit on an Oreshnik submunition does little to it, because the kinetic energy of the interceptor is just a little fraction of the one of the Oreshniks submunition so it will not alter its course and speed much.
    At best it could break / scatter the submunition, but the parts will just continue their course, since they are dense / heavy.

    In short: the Oreshnik is a weapon relying on targets that possess their own destruction means.
    It guarantees a hit / a hole / a penetration, and that's all that is guaranteed.

    The blocks need to be made from uranium
  37. +2
    10 January 2026 09: 55
    They're already saying they hit not the underground gas storage facility, but some drone manufacturing facility. The Oreshnik only lands gracefully, but what happens on the ground (or underground) afterward is unclear, both the first and second time. I hope those who need to know at least this much is known.
  38. 0
    10 January 2026 10: 23
    Quote from: mad-max78
    The blocks need to be made from uranium

    Tungsten is a common material for the purpose:
    8. Uranium 18.95 g/cm^3
    7. Gold 19.32 g/cm^3
    6. Tungsten 19.35 g/cm^3

    A very rare metal the is mined naturally in the Earth often found with many other elements and chemical compounds rather than isolated.

    Tungsten is well known for its robustness, and the high density makes it the perfect metal to use in counterweights, ballast keels for yachts, and tail ballasts in commercial aircraft. Depleted uranium can also fulfill many of these uses, but the optimal element is tungsten.
  39. 0
    10 January 2026 10: 29
    Another interception problem is of course: money. Intercepting every tungsten fragment with million dollar missiles...
  40. +1
    10 January 2026 11: 11
    Fig. 7: The shape of the crater range
    Shows the diagram of the projectile's penetration into the ground.
    The following are indicated: angle θ, depth h, radius R₀, zones A, B, C, stresses σᵣ, σθ, σz.
    Used to model the shape of the crater.
    Fig. 8: The relationship of the crater angle with the projectile speed
    The graph shows how cot θ changes with increasing Mach number Mₐ (for Mₐ ≥ 2.0).
    The higher the speed, the smaller the angle of the crater → the shape becomes more “sharp”, approaching the shape of an explosion.
    Fig. 9: The diagram of craters induced by tungsten rod penetration into the Gobi desert
    Experimental data: crater depth 3.0 m, width 4.6 m, diameter 9.1 m.
    The projectile parameters are as follows: weight 140 kg, speed 4650 m/s, density 19.35×10³ kg/m³, strength 2.4 GPa, diameter 0.11 m, length 0.84 m.
    Medium: sand and gravel, average density 1.8×10³ kg/m³, strength 863 MPa.
    Estimated depth: 3.2 m, radius: 4.7 m - in good agreement with the experiment.

    "Based on an experiment with a prototype ultra-high-speed kinetic energy projectile at a testing ground in the Gobi Desert: a tungsten rod weighing 140 kg struck the surface of the Gobi Desert at a speed of 4650 m/s, forming a parabolic crater 3.0 m deep and 4.6 m in diameter (see Figure 9)."
    1. 0
      10 January 2026 11: 18
      And a little more. This isn't a short message, it's quite long.
  41. +1
    10 January 2026 11: 15
    The SBU states that the Oreshnik debris has been "sent for in-depth examination," including an examination of the "parameters of the stabilization and guidance unit," which the Ukrainian intelligence service has designated as the missile's "brains."

    It seems that it was not the "Oreshnik" missile that hit the underground gas storage facility, but the heads of the SBU officers.
  42. 0
    10 January 2026 14: 26
    There's too much hope for Oreshnik without a warhead, only with "crowbars." But if it had been with a nuclear warhead and a deep-earth explosion, a hole would have been blown. Furthermore, due to the deformation of the earth, the shear would have damaged the wells.
  43. 0
    10 January 2026 15: 48
    There is a high risk of destruction of the valve system and the trunk of the Oreshnik UGS facility.

    Probability is a flaw. It needs to be repeated urgently so that the fairy tale becomes reality. We're constantly talking about "high probability of destruction," yet ports, factories, and ships continue to pollute the atmosphere...
  44. +2
    10 January 2026 18: 35
    The entire article is on par with the popular "highly likely" article in England. Not a single fact.

    In imitation of the author:
    If we assume that Yeti exists, then the most likely place where he could live would certainly be the Himalayas. So...and so on and so forth.
  45. 0
    10 January 2026 20: 27
    The whole article is at the level of the popular "highly likely" in England.

    Despite all the shortcomings noted in this article, it is currently the only report attempting to clarify the possible consequences of the Oreshnik strike on the underground gas storage facility. Also, there was a glimmer of information that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Outskirts complained to the UN Security Council about the strike—apparently, the strike's impact was significant.
    Moreover, the damage was caused mainly to the ground infrastructure of the underground gas storage facility in the Lviv region.

    Footage of the ground infrastructure of this alleged underground gas storage facility has appeared on TV news channels. This technological infrastructure appears to be quite complex and quite large. This means it could easily be damaged to the point of rendering the underground gas storage facility inoperable, even without attempting deep strikes.
  46. -1
    10 January 2026 20: 38
    Where are the satellite images of the destroyed underground gas storage system? Does Russia have no satellites at all? How much longer can they scream about incredible weapons without providing a single shred of evidence? And if the photos from Yuzhmash are to be believed, then yes, the weapons are powerful, but no more than 5 kilograms of TNT equivalent. These aren't the kind of numbers that would knock the enemy right down to the marrow.
  47. 0
    11 January 2026 09: 19
    I will ask a question to the EXPERTS..
    Why doesn't the Oreshnik warhead use the "Depleted Uranium Core" sub-caliber projectile principle? Similar to the American tank shell.
    "Depleted uranium is used because of its exceptionally high density and pyrophoric properties (ability to spontaneously ignite on impact), which gives the projectile enormous kinetic energy, allowing it to penetrate the thickest armor and cause a powerful secondary damage due to explosion and fire."
    ????????
    I want to hear a competent answer.
  48. +1
    12 January 2026 17: 03
    We also read "Probability Theory" in our second year. The author clearly uses the principle that the probability of almost any event is > 0.