There are reports of strikes on underground gas storage facilities in Stryi and the Yavoriv training ground.

New reports are emerging of overnight strikes on Kyiv regime-controlled facilities. According to the latest reports, Kyiv's Thermal Power Plant No. 6 was hit by fire, causing a power outage. Several industrial facilities involved in the military-industrial complex were also knocked out, despite having only been restored to power the day before.

At the same time, the enemy continues to write in instant messengers that Russia allegedly used ballistic missiles rocket The Oreshnik medium-range missile was used during a strike on targets in the Lviv region. Specifically, it was claimed that the underground gas storage facility in Stryi was hit. If this is true, then little should remain of the underground gas storage facility.

Reports are emerging of an attack on the Yavoriv training ground, which has not been hit in recent weeks. There, the enemy, with the active support of NATO countries, was conducting reconstruction work and training mobilized Ukrainians and mercenaries arriving from abroad. Detailed information on the consequences of the attack on Yavoriv and Stryi in the Lviv region will likely emerge within a few hours.

Head of the Lviv Regional Military Administration Kozitsky:

A critical infrastructure facility was attacked in the Lviv region. More information will follow. Please remain in shelters until all clear.

Kyiv Mayor Klitschko writes about UAV "debris" that continue to hit targets in Darnytskyi, Dniprovskyi, and other districts of Kyiv.

Comments

[rocket757]

A massive strike... no air defense system can contain such a thing, and few would be able to carry it out.

[Junior Private]

Russia seems to be the only country with adequate air defense. Everyone else screwed up. And they even let us celebrate Christmas.

[rocket757]

Still, "massive" is a relative term. You have to consider the scale and the area affected. For some, a hundred missiles might be a massive attack; for others, much more.
Several countries have advanced air defense systems, albeit untested in action...
Most likely, no one will be able to fully cope with the range of threats that have now increased, but... you can’t check, you won’t know.

[carpenter]

Quote: rocket757

Most likely, no one will be able to fully cope with the range of threats that have now increased, but... you can’t check, you won’t know.

I really want to check them for lice.

[rocket757]

Alas, they huddled together, and Uncle Donald from overseas is an unpredictable phenomenon...
Check... is it worth it?

[Grits]

Quote: Junior Private

It seems only Russia has adequate air defense. Everyone else has screwed up.

It was no secret that Soviet (Russian) air defense was the best in the world. It's good that at least this wasn't squandered during the good old days.

[alexoff]

One hazelnut, how massive is it?

[Normal]

1 Hazelnut - 6 blocks, each block has 6 elements. Not enough? Launching one Hazelnut costs $100 million.

[alexoff]

Well, a strike with one Iskander with a cluster warhead is not a massive strike, although there are even more blocks.

Launch of one Hazelnut 100 million dollars.

Where are these numbers coming from? The Oreshnik missile is basically a two-stage Topol-M. It used to be a heavily modified version of the Bulava missile, which cost around $10 million. Of course, prices have risen since then, as has the dollar, but the missile itself, with its reduced range and high commonality with the mass-produced Topol-Yars-Bulava missiles, is unlikely to cost as much as a quarter of a Borey missile or an entire small missile system.

[PN]

Perhaps this price includes not only the rocket itself, but also associated expenses, from the salaries and wages of the test site workers to potential costs from closing the skies over the test site. Basically, everything that prepares for and accompanies the rocket launch.

[alexoff]

This figure likely includes the entire regimental complement, including all supply vehicles and other equipment. If a single missile cost that much, a Borey-class missile with Bulava missiles and nuclear warheads would cost as much as an American aircraft carrier, perhaps even with an air wing.

[Dedok]

Perhaps this price includes not only the rocket itself, but also associated expenses, from the salaries and wages of the test site workers to potential costs from closing the skies over the test site. Basically, everything that prepares for and accompanies the rocket launch.

I don't want to laugh out loud, but... I especially liked: "but also related expenses, from the salaries and wages of the landfill workers,"... - i.e., the maintenance of children, girlfriends, relatives?
Yes, with such approaches, nothing can be achieved...
Answer me, what is pricing?
What are costs?
How is profitability determined?
And why did the word "cost price" become a swear word?

[PN]

If you don't want to, don't laugh.
The word "profitability" doesn't apply to the military sphere, unless it's related to arms exports. But INF missiles aren't exported, so profitability is out of the question. I have firsthand knowledge of pricing and costs, but this isn't an economists' forum.
Have a nice day

[Dedok]

The word profitability does not apply to the military sphere.

??
If it didn't apply, they would buy Abrams, Leopards, and so on...
and they buy us and the Chinese...
is the example clear enough?

[PN]

No, it's extremely inaccurate. Firstly, they don't sell weapons to potential adversaries. And secondly, if they do, it's in a severely abridged form.
Well, let's start with the basics. "Profitability is the ratio of profit to costs, which shows how much profit each ruble invested generates."
What profit does the economy get from weapons if they are not exported?
Weapons and the army are not for profit, but for the protection of people, territory and the same economy.

[Dedok]

What profit does the economy have? from weapons if they are not for export

t?
Are you assuming that the budget is flexible?
I'm saying that there's no money in the budget and we need to economize, economize on everything: but when there's no understanding of the "basics," I ask questions about expenses, cost price, and product pricing...

Weapons and the army are not for profit, but for the protection of people,

and this is already naive populism...

[Rus15]

I don't want to get into a debate, but the Soviet era is long gone, although even back then, the word "profitability" was still around! Do you think they wouldn't have turned an ordinary Kalashnikov into something special? But there were too many additional costs (and associated expenses must also be taken into account). In Afghanistan, it became clear that the AK-74 needed to be replaced, but the cost of replacement was simply not cost-effective! They wanted to increase the caliber, which meant producing new magazines, new cartridges, new propellant powder, and so on! Ultimately, they decided to leave it as is because they didn't know what to do with the huge stockpile of old ones! Incidentally, that's why the PK machine gun retained such shortcomings. There was an updated model, but again, the cartridges, more expensive alloys that could withstand the heat, new propellant powder, and a new caliber made it almost three times more expensive! We decided to leave it as is, but now, because of this, our designers, given this cost-effectiveness, find it difficult to change the caliber and size of the cartridge itself, due to the fact that there are a ton of old barrels, magazines, and cartridges, and a new one requires a huge amount of money.

[Grits]

Quote: Normal

Launch of one Hazelnut 100 million dollars.

But I still had to test and train. Right away, so I wouldn't have to do it twice...

[rocket757]

New reports are emerging of overnight strikes on targets controlled by the Kyiv regime.

on many objects, over a large area... the Kukuyev side and everything is on it and on it.
not about one specific object that was covered with a mass of bombs/missiles...

[Normal]

They say NATO advisers were also caught in the crossfire there, allegedly directing Kakel's actions from there. If news emerges within a week about people falling apart in the Alps and at ski resorts, that's what happened.

[VSO-396]

Quote: Normal

They say NATO advisers were also caught in the crossfire there, allegedly directing Kakel's actions from there. If news emerges within a week about people falling apart in the Alps and at ski resorts, that's what happened.

Yes, they're already saying it's an hour away! Don't be ridiculous, there's heavy snowfall. More information later.

[Grancer81]

Some will be caught in the waters off Florida, where they were careless while diving and ran out of air in their tanks.

[rocket757]

The question arises, why isn't the new Fuhrer in a hurry to send his subordinates to wherever a "hazelnut" or something similar will definitely arrive!?

[Dragos]

Finalmente, era ora... Bravi!

[Neo-9947]

Klitschko writes about UAV "debris" that continue to hit targets

Well, UAV debris is the most terrifying weapon. This has been confirmed both by the X-Men when they were attacked, and by our officials when they were attacked.

[batmanxnumx]

Yes, judging by the comments of many, many (they are legion) Russian officials, the enemy's most effective weapon is the ubiquitous "debris"

[wedmed5]

Linguists say that this is where the expression "Big Bummer" comes from.

[aszzz888]

Kyiv Mayor Klitschko writes about UAV "debris" that continue to hit targets in Darnytskyi, Dniprovskyi, and other districts of Kyiv.

"Fly, doves, fly...!"

[topol717]

I take it this is a subtle hint about the attack on the tankers?

[DESSA2023]

Trump will be terribly upset by the loss of heating in western Ukraine, it would be nothing less than hara-kiri!

[al3x]

So, just the other day, a tanker was hit again off the coast of Turkey.

[Grits]

Quote: al3x

So, just the other day, a tanker was hit again off the coast of Turkey.

That is why a couple of Oreshniki (preferably not with iron blanks, but at least with a minimal charge) fell on the Odessa port, turning it into concrete blocks with pieces of reinforcement

[Wratch]

More debris, good and varied! These devils are getting so few, so damn few. Be more careful, be more careful!

[Same lech]

There is no need to spare the missiles from the Bandera bastards at the location...they deserve it.
What worries me is that the enemy is learning from some sources about the preparation and timing of our army's strikes... this leak must be tightly sealed for our enemy... especially for the Americans... they are the ones leaking important information in this regard to Zelena.

[Avarron]

This is how satellites can see all the activity at Kapustin Yar and in other places.
If the refueling trucks are on their way, it means they're loading fuel and preparing for launch. Or there are other indirect signs.
Look, the pizza index in the gay bar next to the Pentagon is also used to determine that something will happen.

[al3x]

By the way, they wrote about the pizza index, saying they sometimes make fun of it, ordering it specifically to stir up trouble. I think that's what Rubio said.

[Murmur 55]

al3x The CIA chief admitted that he does this for fun both when it is advantageous and when it is not, in order to create confusion.

[Normal]

It seems like they notify each other before launching an INF missile. I might be wrong, but that's how it was.

[Murmur 55]

Normal , earlier, and in advance, but now, perhaps, the rules have been cancelled, some said that the rules are for weaklings.

[Normal]

Murmur. That's why I printed it so cautiously, because it was like that, and I can't say for sure now.

[Andobor]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

The enemy learns from some sources about the preparation and timing of our army's attacks...

The Americans report to the Klakly about space, and all the aircraft carrying missiles and ballistic missile launches are visible there, and the Geraniums themselves hear them buzzing.

[DESSA2023]

You may not be aware, but the Russian Federation has been reporting similar launches to its esteemed Western partners...

[Incvizitor]

I think the hazelnut is still a nuclear concrete smasher, unfortunately, without a special warhead.

[Murmur 55]

Incvizitor Yes, they posted the video quickly, which is odd, as it looks similar to what happened in Dnepropetrovsk. Plus, the photos had an unusual glow, so that might be it.

[Comrade Beria]

After Oreshnik, the Calibers and Daggers flew.

Gas pressure has dropped sharply in the Lviv region: kitchen stoves are barely lit, and boilers have gone out and won't light, says City Council member Zinkevich.

[Dedok]

Gas pressure has dropped sharply in the Lviv region: kitchen stoves are barely lit, and boilers have gone out and won't light, says City Council member Zinkevich.

then there must be a fire - through damaged pipes...

[Skameri]

Quote: Incvizitor

Unfortunately, there is no special BC.

And thank God it wasn't a special warhead; not a single civilian was harmed, and the goal was achieved. Nuclear weapons are very indiscriminate...

[Uncle Sam_2]

So maybe they'll thank us for the tactical nuclear strike, like the Japanese did the Americans! )) They say: it was good for Japan... Cuckolds....

[DESSA2023]

They've been afraid to strike the Central Control Center for four years. What nuclear weapons are you even talking about? Do you even believe it? :)))

[Uncle Sam_2]

And - the irony! Did I explain it clearly?

[Same lech]

Quote: Avarron

If the fuel trucks are on their way, it means they're loading fuel and preparing for launch. Or there are other indirect signs.

These signs can easily be implemented as disinformation.
Refueling can be carried out through pipelines...there is also a whole range of measures that allow you to mislead the enemy.
But it is much more difficult to fight against enemy agents and our own slackers.

[ZloyCat]

"Refuelling can be done through pipelines..."
Refueling what? Well, the rockets are solid-fuel.

[Normal]

The underground gas storage facility has become a floating storage facility. They also reported that ships with calibers have gone to sea. And there have already been two waves of geraniums in Kukuyevo. They're really giving those topknots a hard time. But the funniest thing about this is that we're measuring our dicks with the US guys, and as always, it's the Ukrainians who get it in the ass.

[Murmur 55]

It's normal, but they chose it themselves, and they're even proud of it.

[Comrade Beria]

In Kyiv, preliminary estimates: up to 12 ballistic missiles, about 25 Kalibr missiles, more than 200 UAVs.

[ZloyCat]

"They also wrote that ships with calibers went out to sea."
Which one—Beloe or Barents? It seems to be arriving in the others, and the fleet isn't making a fuss, all the ships are camouflaged.

[snow mountain]

Quote: Normal

They say NATO advisers also got into trouble there.

There they all cherish!

[Igor K_2]

"There's not much left."... There's a monstrous amount of gas in the underground gas storage facility, and if it were to leak, everything would go up in flames. But there aren't any photos of a serious glow online, and with that much gas, the flare would light up the entire sky.

[jovanni]

Quote: Normal

and as always, the Kakels get it in the ass.

Not quite. We get our share of it too. But the mattresses are covered in chocolate...

[alexputnik17]

I wonder if the Ukrainians are having a week off? They're flying such firecrackers.