Australian Defense Ministry confirms intention to purchase F-100 Fighter X-NUMX Fighter X-NUMX from the USA

The Australian Department of Defense announced its intention to acquire all 100 units previously planned for the purchase of fifth-generation F-35 fighter Lightning-2 from Lockheed Martin.

According to Reuters, citing a statement by Secretary of Defense Stephen Smith, the Australian Air Force will soon order a second batch of F-35 Lightning 2, in addition to the acquisition of 2011 aircraft approved in 14.

In addition, according to him, in the near future the conversion of the 12 from the F / A-24 Super Hornet 18 fighters acquired earlier to the EW version of the EA-18G will be completed.

According to the schedule, the first two of the Australian F-14 35 must be manufactured and tested in the US in the 2014-2015.

In just a few batches, 75 aircraft will be ordered (three squadrons), the first of which will be introduced into the Australian Air Force in 2020 year.

The mixed fleet of F / A-18 / EA-18G and F-35 will be operated for at least the 2030 year.

After this date, the X-NUMX F-25 will be purchased to replace the Super Hornet aircraft that have developed a service life. As a result, the total number of F-35 fighters purchased will be 35 units.

Comments

[dmitreach]

OmeriGunSSy have found a way to convince and guarantee a voluntary-compulsory service?

[Russian]

Everyone refuses, but they increase purchases) Well, we will only be better off, fewer vultures will reach the next country, in which they will impose democracy!

[dmitreach]

fewer vultures will fly

Judging by the constant reports over the past couple of years, I would say: if they rise into the sky ...

[Pimply]

In vain irony. Such projects usually give a huge leap in technology to the developing country.

[Alexei]

Quote: Pimply

In vain irony. Such projects usually give a huge leap in technology to the developing country.

The main thing is that this leap was very expensive and not very effective.

[Misha]

Quote: Alexej

The main thing is that this leap was very expensive and not very effective.

Yes Yes! Especially expensive (!!!!!), and very effective (!!!!) preparing for the Sochi Winter Olympics !!!!!!!!!

[SSR]

Quote: Pimply

In vain irony. Such projects usually give a huge leap in technology to the developing country.

That's why you are "pretty". Most of your posts have a grain.

[dmitreach]

Pimply, sure, not a problem. But here the ball is ruled by specialists from a different school. Unit cost / efficiency / operation is not about this aircraft. another question Hornet / Navy / Air Force, there is still something to admit. But Pingiven .... Fire it. At the moment, the only thing he really proved is the miscalculations in costs. Into the flesh to the brake hook. If we say that negative experience is the path "through the thorns to the stars", then we are not like a bae not at the dawn of the era of aviation ... We could have made a glider. And dviglo to debug, BEFORE the series. I understand if the only question for "windows" was ... (joke, I'm talking about the brains of the plane) In fact, so far he is aiming to acquire the laurels of the F-117Nighthawk ... (the same Night will become, to justify stealth )

[Misha]

Quote: dmitreach

Judging by the constant reports over the past couple of years, I would say: if they rise into the sky ...

respected! over the past couple of years, even less than a year and a half, 38 F-35s have risen into the sky! And how many did the notorious PAK FA rise into the sky?

[dmitreach]

respected! And why is this a stupid comparison? Recall years of work on NIKOR of both machines, or didn’t Google ban you? Or, in your reality, Texas fought for independence from Omerigi in the early 90's?

[Geisenberg]

Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й

Everyone refuses, but they increase purchases) Well, we will only be better off, fewer vultures will reach the next country, in which they will impose democracy!

Well, do not buy them the Su35, in fact. What Uncle Sam said, they’ll buy it.

[Explore]

The most interesting thing - most of all the crap on the F-35 is poured precisely from the pages of the Australian press, and their military analysts broadcast about the wretched American coffin, completely losing to the Russian Su-35S. And nevertheless bought. Why then raised the hype?

[RUSSIA 2013]

Quote: Geisenberg

Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й

Everyone refuses, but they increase purchases) Well, we will only be better off, fewer vultures will reach the next country, in which they will impose democracy!

Well, do not buy them the Su35, in fact. What Uncle Sam said, they’ll buy it.

our drying, this is a terrible dream for the United States, and our new 5th generation fighter is an ASIN PIT FOR VOMPIRE.

[RUSSIA 2013]

mind you, the United States specifically wrote in small print.

[Misha]

Quote: Geisenberg

Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й

Everyone refuses, but they increase purchases) Well, we will only be better off, fewer vultures will reach the next country, in which they will impose democracy!

Well, do not buy them the Su35, in fact. What Uncle Sam said, they’ll buy it.

Respected! With what such a fright Australia will start buying your "drying" and "Migi"? Uncle Sam's word has nothing to do with it! For centuries Australia has been buying weapons from the United States, from its mother Britain, from France ...

[Pimply]

Yes, no one really refuses. Everyone is waiting for the outcome. And he will be. The plane is made within the limits of modern technologies. For this reason, this jump is taking place with tests and deadlines.

[Nitup]

Quote: Pimply

The plane is made within the limits of modern technologies.

More advanced technology than the F-22?

[Misha]

Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й

Everyone refuses, but they increase purchases)

Who refuses? List of refuseniks in the studio!

[avt]

Quote: dmitreach

OmeriGunSSy have found a way to convince and guarantee a voluntary-compulsory service?

In a sense, yes. They are not just buying a plane, they are buying a system with all its components, including maintenance. In general, they are tightly attached to amers.

[Pimply]

If you do not know Australia - one of the developers

[sir.jonn]

Quote: Pimply

If you do not know Australia - one of the developers

Probably the Australian share in the development is aimed at adapting to its own air force

[dmitreach]

avt,

In a sense, yes.

oh. I would like to quote:

[Heccrbq]

In Australia, they also know how to roll and saw, whose not only kangaroos are bred but also their own citizens

[opkozak]

[gregor6549]

And where will Australia go if it, along with other countries, has contracted to finance the creation of F35 from the very beginning ?. Here you don’t want it, but keep the style, otherwise you can ask harder for such expenses without any visible result than they asked from Serdyukov and Co.

[Vashestambid]

The fighter is wonderful, so the Australians have something to be proud of !!

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... Russia wouldn’t hurt to develop such an aircraft or directly purchase this one, supporting the F-35 program !!

[GreatRussia]

Quote: VashEstambid

Wonderful fighter

From the words NOTICE and KILL, which threatens this golden coffin.

[cth; fyn]

Yeah, you can only fly it only in clear warm weather and that’s all.

[Kaa]

Quote: cth; fyn

it’s only possible to fly on it in clear warm weather

Well, this is so for Australia, it is hot and dry there, and during the rains, planes - for preventive maintenance, pilots - on vacation. The only thing, in my opinion, the Australian version should have a shortened take-off like "kangaroo jump" - such an F-35KENGOO

[Curculum]

Quote: Kaa

The only thing, in my opinion, the Australian version should have a shortened take-off like "kangaroo jump" - such an F-35KENGOO

Or, as another Australian version, it should have a sharp climb like "penguin exit to the feeder", such as the F-35Penguin. I watched this spectacle on the island of Phillip - impressive.

[Reasonable, 2,3]

The fighter is wonderful, so the Australians have something to be proud of !! You are an American .... (read your comments) what are you doing on this site ?.

[Andrey57]

Dear, you just didn’t understand "The fighter is great, so Australians have a lot to be proud of !!" - this is just humorous banter, so you shouldn't have pounced on a person

[Reasonable, 2,3]

And you read his comments.

[Old skeptic]

Quote: VashEstambid

A wonderful fighter,

Right And not yet knocked down.

Born to crawl, cannot fall.

[Gemar]

Quote: VashEstambid

.rosia would not hurt to develop such an aircraft or directly purchase this, supporting the F-35 program !!

Oh, leave it! We’d better wait until Senegal starts selling 6th generation ++ planes and buy them!
Although no, not so ... We will buy 3 F-35s to "assess" their combat capabilities and impossibilities. Then we'll sell it to China - we'll kill two eggs with one shot ... uh ... HARE! Zaitsev, of course, I'm sorry! We support the United States with their F-35 Pinguin-II and set China on the false path of development of their combat aircraft!
Quiz question:
Who has betrayed the greatest stupidity now, you or the Ministry of Defense of Australia, who was going to buy a 5th generation Penguin without super-maneuverability, cruising super-sound ... and without everything that is prefixed with a super-price?

[zennon]

Yes, the characteristics are not brilliant. But how amers can sell expensive bullshit! It's just parasitic.

[fokino1980]

Yes, no one is against !!! Let them be proud of the "flying ax" all the same not a boomerang. The descendants of convicts bought a "cat in a poke" from other descendants of experts on the genocide of indigenous peoples. Come in handy

[luka095]

And why should Russia support the US military-industrial complex?
In Russia, you need to bring to mind your developments, for example, the T-50.

[Phantom Revolution]

Quote: VashEstambid

The fighter is wonderful, so the Australians have something to be proud of !! drinks

Indeed, it was not for nothing that he was nicknamed "Hangar Dominator" and "Thunderstorm of Highways"!

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: gregor6549

And where will Australia go if it, along with other countries, has contracted to finance the creation of F35 from the very beginning ?. Here you don’t want it, but keep the style, otherwise you can ask harder for such expenses without any visible result than they asked from Serdyukov and Co.

Lockheed Martin and its partners hold a huge PR company to promote the F-35 and Americans are able to promote their goods in all available ways.
Somewhere like that
The smile on the face of the test pilot as he completed a successful vertical landing of Britain's newest generation of fighter jets said it all. “This is simply a phenomenal flying machine.”

[Vladimirets]

The banter of the unsubscribes, of course, is ridiculous, and the F-35, obviously, is not worth the money for which it is sold. Kosyakov has it, too, in order, but: this aircraft, undoubtedly, is up-to-date, with a bunch of innovations, maybe not as revolutionary as it is positioned, but still. Another thing is worrying, zadripilnaya Australia orders 100 pieces of these aircraft, and we are our newest? Now compare the points of tension between ours and the Australians ... Sadly.

[Odysseus]

Quote: Vladimirets

Another thing is worrying, the shattered Australia orders 100 of these planes,

Why is Australia crippled? This is a very rich country.

[Phantom Revolution]

Quote: Odyssey

Why is Australia crippled? This is a very rich country.

Graters with China, apparently they were told, you want to be "protected", pay the loot.

[crocodile25]

Good news; let potential opponents buy buckets

[ttttt]

Axes, axes! Who are the axes? We buy great axes! We fly in, snapping up! Rub a little thing, two a bunch!

[Strezhevchanin]

Vtyuhali !!!

[zennon]

How Merkel is dancing, beauty!

[maxon106]

This is not Merkel, but Clinton is hysterical

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

- Kirkorov I do not like - all the sugary, powdered like a woman, in a word - Romanian.

“So he is a Bulgarian!”

- Yes?! Who cares?

[WIN969]

USA: A cat in a poke?
Australia: I have to!

[vlad767]

89 "flying boots"? Hmm ... Not frail, they planned not targeted spending ... And where are the screams of the "democratic" media about the squandering of funds?

[andrei332809]

Well, well. Do they have "Serdyukov" driving there? Or do they think that they will somehow cope with the Chinese-made SU? about the same quality of machines?

[mihal74]

.... let them suddenly finalize ....

[Day 11]

Yes, really ... That's what the damned amers are afraid of ------- http: //www.youtube.com/watch? Feature = player_embedded & v = cb0ZyGOi
2ME Let them be afraid !!! Caution, nervous, please do not look!

[Day 11]

Comrade, moderator, remove this post (pzhlst)! All I wanted to say is below

[V. Ushakov]

Australia will arm itself - they are afraid of Indonesia. The largest of the Islamic countries and claims to Australia, - about 2/3 of the territory. You’ll buy anything here, and the States will most likely carry out after-sales service. Pressure on Indonesia, only indirectly, on China.

[Petrospek]

and why did you get that claim?

[V. Ushakov]

I was in Australia, talked with the military, looked at maps of the Indonesian issue for 2003. From this and took it.

[gregor6549]

Indonesia is not the Australian Armed Forces' biggest headache. Although China is far away, it causes more concern. in the event of a conflict with the United States, he, China, may well cut the sea routes from Singapore to Australia, and Singapore is currently the main supplier of bezin and diesel fuel to Australia. And to the United States, Australia is fastened firmly by relevant treaties in the military sphere. So if China and the United States do not understand, Australia will have to fight on the side of the United States. And for such a war, crocodiles with kangaroos will not be enough, even taking into account the high fighting qualities of kangaroos. But Indonesia is unlikely to want to shove a horn on such allies. Because the horns can break off. Moreover, New Zealand will immediately set its natives with war paint and kiwi birds against Indonesia. This bird is terribly dangerous. Small, but strongly gonoshasty. Will bite nafig.
And the last thing about. Rumors about "impotence" F35 are greatly exaggerated. Yes, there are problems there, especially with the vertical take-off and landing option, But this option is basically demanded by the US Navy, so let them suffer with it. and most other buyers of F35, including Australia, are quite satisfied with the normal version of this aircraft. Of course, the terms of its commissioning have already been disrupted, but this has not yet led to the collapse of the Air Force of any of the countries. They are bypassed by other types, For example, the modernized F18, F16 and F15. And there the F35 will mature to a standard. So far, time suffers and a couple of three years does not solve anything.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: gregor6549

Rumors about "impotence" F35 are greatly exaggerated.

I fully agree with you here.

Quote: gregor6549

Yes, there are problems there, especially with the option of vertical take-off and landing, But this option is mainly requested by the US Navy, so let them suffer from it.

Well, here the British are still decently interested in vertical lines. There are still problems with the helmet display, but there is a spare simpler, but these are all problems to be solved, all the same, the F-35 will be armed with NATO from about 2020 to 2040.

[Aleks21]

I completely agree! (Sory on staging + I have not earned yet)

[sanych your division]

Indonesia has long been under the sha tune. another candidate for a regional scarecrow. old amerovskaya scheme. but the main thing is working. look and be afraid. run to us and we will protect everyone. really like reethers in the 90s

[V. Ushakov]

Indonesia is the largest ISLAMIC country in terms of both population and area. And if Ayatollah comes to power? - Will become the second Iran and the pipe is the end. Indonesia's armament is not bad. Australia has someone to fear.

[albert]

The whole f-35 epic resembles the story of the F-105 starfighter. There’s a lot of screaming, advertising, saying the most powerful aircraft in the world, but in fact the Americans bought it themselves in a limited batch, and the rest vparival their allies. It was not a plane but a flying coffin . Judging by what they write about the f-35, he may have the same fate.

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: albert

the f-35 epic recalls the story of the f-105 starfighter. There’s a lot of screaming, advertising, they say the most powerful aircraft in the world

A perfectly accurate analogy.

[fzr1000]

Starfighter is F 104, F 105 is Thunderchief.

[cth; fyn]

Australia buys the most expensive fighter in the world that is not suitable even for training flights

[Day 11]

We look, we envy !!! Let the enemy tremble! We are UNBEATABLE! (approximately such a translation)

[Scythian 35]

Interestingly, the DPRK has not fought for sixty years, the iconostasis from the award planks in four rows has been abandoned !!!

[Day 11]

Yes, what else I wanted to add ------- Over the sea, the raging sea
Soviet helicopter flies.
Walks himself in the open
Happy Korean people!

The screw rotates quieter and quieter -
Valuable gasoline is running out.
And in every moment is heard
Their exclamation "Manse Kim Jong-un!" (This is, by the way) - inspired

[dld35057]

I am happy for our North Korean comradeships. We, and they, will destroy the world imperialistic nits from the face of the earth - as long as there is North Korea on earth, there is hope for justice in this world.

[avkeys]

Syria sold

[piotr534]

The lack of logic in the actions of the Australians is surprising. They criticized the F-35 to the nines, saying that the SU-35 could easily lose although the older generation announced a refusal to purchase and now consent. Interesting girls are dancing, the amers should specifically put pressure on them. And this ax will never fly as it was intended during its development. Years have been spent on correcting design errors, and things are still there, the person wants to squeeze la at any cost, but the price has already risen. Well, the more they sell this junk the better we are.

[Day 11]

As for the trash, you probably got excited after all! A very good device is heavier than air. But the question of price is, indeed, it is sky-high!

[Pimply]

Not really. Given that, in fact, they are developing not one, but three aircraft.

[olegff68]

Quote: Pimply

Not really. Given that, in fact, they are developing not one, but three aircraft.

As well as the development of advanced, innovative methods of production and assembly.

[Pimply]

That's it. Therefore, all these joyful flag-waving "f35 sucks and drank" is both funny and sad to watch at the same time.

[Pimply]

Can you imagine who criticized and for what reasons, and for what?

[Day 11]

Yes, here, once again, everything is clear, beat the loot

[Day 11]

Eugene, here YOU seem to be an adequate person. Honestly, I don’t love your nation (and who loves it?). Nevertheless, say: Why are you destroying Assad? After all, he (in my opinion) wants to preserve a secular state. Why are you helping any trash from all over the world? Or is it revenge on Russian people? Try to answer without ideological husk. I try to understand the essence of this problem. You know, we will keep back and we will not hand over our friends! For some reason, Iran and your Hasidim are quite peaceful gets along (that's nonsense!) Isn’t it?

[Scythian 35]

I apologize that it’s not my business that I am wet, but the monarchy is not a secular state.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Scythian 35

the monarchy is not a secular state.

Those. Are you trying to argue that neither Holland, nor Britain, nor Sweden, nor Denmark are secular states ??? All enumerate bukaff a lot turns out.

[Scythian 35]

you did not name more than one absolute monarchy !!!

[Pimply]

It happens. Like numerous forms of dictatorship.

[SSR]

Quote: Den 11

Eugene, here you are kind of an adequate person. Honestly, I don’t love your nation (and who loves it?). Nevertheless, say: Why are you destroying Assad?

I guess.
The "elite" of Jewish .... (no words, they don't care about ordinary Jews, for them they are also a victim to their goals ... in general .. if you think about it .. it turns out .. that these people are not in vain persecuted for centuries .. ........... I do not want to continue .. because the edges are thin .. and there are Jewish friends .. I do not want to "slander" them for nothing.
PS.
Ever since the time of alozych, there have been statements by the rabbis that not every Jew they need, and if necessary, for their own purposes.

[Rioter]

Quote: Den 11

Eugene, here YOU seem to be an adequate person. Honestly, I don’t love your nation (and who loves it?). Nevertheless, say: Why are you destroying Assad? After all, he (in my opinion) wants to preserve a secular state. Why are you helping any trash from all over the world? Or is it revenge on Russian people? Try to answer without ideological husk. I try to understand the essence of this problem. You know, we will keep back and we will not hand over our friends! For some reason, Iran and your Hasidim are quite peaceful gets along (that's nonsense!) Isn’t it?

Can I try to answer, instead of Eugene, especially since he left Israel and personally does not destroy Assad. However, you must understand that the world is a complex thing. For Russia, Assad is a friend and comrade (albeit a disgusting one) For Israel, he is a clear evil. For many years he supported Hezbollah and supplied it with rockets - a weapon of terror. The north of Israel was constantly bombarded and terrorized. And thanks to Assad for that. Now about the adequacy. Israel is vitally interested in the fall of Assad for a number of reasons. The first and obvious one: it is better to meet an evil hare in the forest than a good wolf. Deranged gangs are not a problem for the army. Borders locked. Minor skirmishes are possible, but this cannot be compared to the dormant threat posed by the regular Syrian army armed with missiles and weapons of mass destruction capable of reaching Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Ao second. Zombie Salafis are a creature of the Saudis, and are ruled by the hand of the monarchy. The next target has already been declared - Hezbollah (not Israel) And you know why? Because the Saudis are forced to act in the interests of Israel (Not out of great love, of course). Because only Israel can solve the problem of Iran, which the Arabian monarchies hate and fear much more than Israel. In this situation, Israel is the only hope for the Arabians. Don't worry about Syria. It looks like we agreed with Russia. Russia was tough and bargained for whatever it wanted. Turn on the news. Such a powerful blow to Syria, and the silence. Neither Lavrov's formidable statements (later he will make mild condemnation) nor hysteria, which was the last time. In short, Syria is no longer Russia's vital interest. It was sold, and apparently the offered price was satisfied this time. It is right. For Russia has only one priority - national interests. For a long time Israel did not intervene in the situation in Syria, proceeding from the position - "A plague on both your houses." And since he fit in on the side of the Arabs in this conflict, it means the Arabs (Arabians) offered an acceptable price. Precisely - WORLD. Moving towards a real WORLD, with trade relations, technology export and political dialogue. peace with the Arabs is the most coveted reward and prize for Israel which is not higher. (Do not forget in this Persian-Arab confrontation, Syria opposes the entire consolidated Arab world in the person of the League of Arab States. This is a sober and correct step of Israel. It is worth intervening. And how funny. The League even condemned the Israeli aggression (although the condemnation sounds feigned tenderly.) But you are a big boy. The Arab League nevertheless put forward for the first time real demands for peace, and declared its readiness to go for rapprochement. Peace with the entire Arab world and the fall of the vile sworn enemy - the ruling house of Assads. Moreover, it is possible to destroy Hezbollah by hand jihadists So what's not clear?

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Rioter

So what is not clear?

Quote: Rioter

Salafis are zombies - the creatures of the Saudis, and are ruled by the hand of the monarchy. The next target has already been declared - Hezbollah (not Israel)

From your extremely frank article yesterday, I’m assuming that having figured out Hezbollah, zombies will be torn to pieces in Iran. The question arises: where do the sheikhs of their wards go after they deal with Iran? Many people say that they will simply dissolve them in the Caucasus and in Middle Asia. home? Question without sublets, really want to understand.

[Rioter]

Everything is simple and commonplace. if you take a sober look, you will find that Russia is not the enemy of America. And America has no interest in blaming Russia. Russia is developing smoothly, but not explosively. Fulfills all obligations undertaken. Exports oil and does not threaten American hegimony. In reality, the Russia-USA confrontation is a game. What is not a game and what threatens US hegemony is China. And the answer to where the Salafis will be sent is simple and banal. They will direct to tear to pieces the closest ally and fortress of China, the window of China to the Middle East - Pakistan. But dealing with packs is difficult. They will need to be torn so as to gently grab the nuclear weapon falling out of the hands. This is a difficult task. I don’t know how the intelligence community will decide it. But apparently they have considerations. This can also be gently understood from the turn that the United States made from Pakistan to India. (Or rather they just mix it up, because now Afghanistan is still relevant and the packs are needed, but they are more naughty, more and more subject to the influence of China, and very soon this friendship between the USA and Pakistan will come to a final end. And think about the fact that it’s not terrorists, and sucked from the Caucasus to other regions.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Rioter

Russia is not the enemy of America. And America has no interest in blaming Russia.

Will there be a conflict of interests between the United States and the Russian Federation in the expanses of the former USSR? Can we trace Russia's position to maintain its influence in the countries of Central Asia and not lose it in the Caucasus. And Hillary's loud statement: “There is a movement towards re-Sovietization of the region,” leads Clinton's words to the Financial Times - It will not be called that way. It will be called a customs union, it will be called a Eurasian Union and everything like that. Let's not be mistaken about that. We know what the goal is, and we try develop effective ways to slow it down or prevent it, "said the head of the US Foreign Office. ************************** Somehow reassuring your statements look.

[Rioter]

Do not look at the words. Look at business. The United States is not averse to strangling somewhere too fast a tentacle of Moscow’s Moscow, if it’s not very expensive and does not draw a lot of resources. But the American elite is a very cynical and cold people. And look at business. The United States is clearly relocating to the Asia-Pacific region. And so that they do not chat to avert their eyes or out of love for sophistry, but the main goal is CHINA. If I want to slam you into a pogdy, I’ll say that I’m swinging to fight with your neighbor, and not with you. Even if everything is obvious to you. You, too, will pretend that you believed (even knowing that I won’t believe what you believed) and begin to prepare accordingly. China is doing this. All the signs of his hidden mobilization and urgent modernization of the armed forces are evident.

[Thunderbolt]

Does this mean that talks about a strategic partnership between China and the Russian Federation are also a screen? Agree, this partnership has great prospects. We have something to do, starting from the wealth of Siberia and the Far East, joint development of the Arctic, and in the field of high technology, there is a wide field for cooperation.

Quote: Rioter

. And look at business. The United States is clearly relocating to the Asia-Pacific region.

I do not know where they will be redeployed, but the fact that the Caliphate is "pecking", as they say, in the soft underbelly of Russia, all the signs are on the face. + Not strangled radicals inside the country and the possible risks of a federal structure within Russia, Yes, one uncertain status of the Caspian Sea is worth it ... I think that the Russian Federation rests against Syria, not only because of the economic profit.

[Pimply]

Strategic partnership between shark and tuna? Funny

[Thunderbolt]

For "you" yes. Have put a cliché and you can be happy. But American strategists are not so categorical in the use of labels.

[Rioter]

I do not think that the Partnership between Russia and China is a screen. But the United States will drive a wedge. Not out of malice to Russia, but to deprive China of cheap resources. But Russia is not the first goal. Amer very concentrated on the goal of the people. Now the forces are limited and they will focus on China. Therefore, for the time being, They will not hit the customs union. (If China does not request there. And if it is requested now, then it cannot be allowed in yet, because it is too large economically and will gobble up the alliance within the alliance. Forks. But in the future, if the Customs Union with Russia at the head grows stronger and begins to pose a threat, then and aim. Although there is a threat to Russia. But not the Caliphate in the Middle East, but the Talibanization of Central Asia. And when the boulevard begins in Central Asia, here we will need to stand back to back with Kazakhstan and hold the iron defense. But these are my thoughts. In fact, I don’t have such a clear balance of power, groupings and players in Central Asia, so I don’t have confidence in the correctness of the above.

[Day 11]

Everything is clear. Not only one thing is clear, how to be with my Christian friends (Orthodox) from Damascus. How to deal with them? Give this trash collected from around the world to hell? Fuck you !!! They will fight !!!!! And in Russia, believe me, there are many people who are ready to go there to protect friends, relatives, co-religionists ...

[Rioter]

It’s a pity for people. Ordinary people. And Christians and ordinary Sunites and ordinary Alawites, doctors, tset merchants. But put yourself in Israel's place? How can we help ordinary people? Maybe this was a small point in trade with Syria. (I don't know, but I want to think so) That Russia has received guarantees of a presence in Syria without Assad and participation in new infrastructure and business projects that will serve to restore the country and prosperity. and as soon as Assad falls and the alien Salafis disappear, they will be urgently moved to a new goal. time is gone, full time notes. Assad will not be, and everything will be over the next day. This will be the first peaceful morning. And what Russia bargained for is not obvious to me. We will see it. One thing is clear, this time the bargaining was serious, and Russia refused to sacrifice its interests just like that, declaring an ironclad position. And apparently out of despair, "they" had to agree to all the conditions of the Russian Federation.

[Day 11]

Are you so naive? Yes, the day after the fall of the Assad government --- Damascus will wash himself with blood !!! Hitler will seem like a little naughty kid! What have you achieved in Libya? --- only the blood of ordinary people!

[Rioter]

I ask you not to ask me the question "What have you achieved?" I have not achieved anything, I am an outside observer, the same as you, out of simple interest, sorting out this puzzle solitaire. In Libya, it's a pipe. But Libya was torn apart at the same time. She was neither the first target nor the last. And she did not participate in the geopolitical situation (although there is some interest in robbing the country and pumping Libyan oil, but this is not the goal at all) Gaddafi fell under the distribution, because he was the personal and blood enemy of the Emir of Qatar, Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani. Gaddafi, in his usual laid-back and witty manner, had the imprudence to joke and humiliate the Emir in public at the LAS meetings. The Emir gritted his teeth and spent a long time preparing his revenge. Besides, if you remember, we started from Tunisia, not from Libya. he is also on the outskirts. But it was necessary to roll back and test the revolutionary technology. Then Libya. This is personal revenge, plus a convenient foothold for crushing Mubarak in Egypt and pushing the Muslim brothers under the control, led by Mursi, to power. But Gaddafi could have survived, if at one time he had not so "lowered" (by the way, very witty) the powerful emir of a tiny but influential country.

[Day 11]

Wow, how savvy you are in this matter (I really didn’t know these subtleties). But that doesn’t mean that you need to break the civilizational (secular) life of ordinary people in Syria into Sharia power? Do you agree with me here?

[Rioter]

When the jihadists burst into Damascus, they will make fun of it. But they won't be given much time to relax. It simply does not exist, this time. We urgently need to end with Hezbollah. Syria is not Libya. There, of course, they will bustle after all the Majahideen leave, but they calm down pretty quickly. The culture of the country is higher, and although there are many contradictions, they are not as brutal as between the tribes in Libya. There is no way to establish a severe Shori'a in Syria. Look at Egypt, it doesn't work. For example, today the secular population in Egypt lynched the unbelted son of a high-ranking Islamist in Egypt. And I said, I don't know, but I really want to believe that Russia has designated its place in Syria after Assad. And the question "why break?" sometimes when the forest is cut down - the chips fly. And this forest disturbed many people. He could not help but be cut down. The fact that the woodcutters would come to Syria was clear even when Tunisia was burning. But Assad was not prepared. Why? I dont know. did not have time, did not have enough resources, or missed.

[Day 11]

I don’t know why you decided that Assad’s war was lost? In my opinion, not everything is lost yet !!! This scum "he" lays down in packs a day. Let's see who else will take it !!! It is clear that you will buy this meat for a hundred more a bunch, but the truth is behind us. And what is the strength, brother? Right, in the truth!

[Pimply]

Because it is supported by an extremely limited number of countries, because there are not so many people who can be trained. Because there is a civil war in the country and Assad is gradually losing ground.

[Day 11]

No, Zhenya, let's see who else has a stronger Faberge. We have nowhere to retreat, behind ...

[Rioter]

Quote: Den 11

you still buy meat a hundred per bunch

- My megalomania will happen if you do not stop making me such compliments. I am not a senior analyst at the CIA or Massada. I just analyze what is happening from the outside, if possible without unnecessary emotions. Assad's war will be lost when we get other confirmation that Israel and the Arabs have made an alliance against Syria. If so ("If", note this is still an assumption) Then Syria is a kerdyk, because it can do nothing to oppose Israel's military might. (especially in the Air Force component. Neither the Scuds nor the Iskanders (if any) will help. But even if Israel joins the sabotage war and does not begin to deliver further air strikes, the war is still lost. Because special forces groups will go there (rather all of the selected Bedouins, Druze and Circassians (all of them serve in the IDF)) with modern ATGM systems, and even with the support or coordination of actions with groups of Qatar special forces. Remember how Tripoli fell. (Not the regime, but the capital of Libya. The capital fell before The opposition and the jihadists were already in complete despair, they almost started shooting each other in hopelessness in Benghazi, and suddenly, literally overnight, a message comes: “The opposition has taken Tripoli.” It was the work of the Qataris. not finally decided. Gaddafi and the loyalists were still strong, and the Qataris did not want to fight for the zombies. It's one thing to help with a separate assault on the capital, it's another to lose elite soldiers in the training and education of which millions of and each, in constant battles for many days. Qatar took a different path. I asked Sarko to return part of the money invested in it, so to speak, as a military-political service. And Sarkozy did not refuse the emir. France took the lead in the operation. With Syria, the stakes are higher. If Qatar gets Israel's help, then Assad is doomed. Such losses will begin in armored vehicles (there will still be expendable jihodists on the front line) that the army will not be able to continue the offensive. We must face the truth. If the jihadists are reinforced by elite special forces armed with modern anti-tank systems that receive satellite (and maybe from UAVs) intelligence and operational information from AMAN (Israel's military intelligence) and the Mossad, then Assad will not be able to withstand such pressure. In addition, “on the other side” have already realized that the monkeys cannot cope. The most capable monkeys were selected and trained (amerovskie instructors) for many months at special bases in Jordan. (in open sources you can find a figure of 2000 thousand. There is no evidence of this figure) This group of trained jihadists is waiting for the go-ahead in Jordan. There is no information yet that they began to be thrown into Syria. Apparently they are preparing for a consolidated strike. You can drink a glass of beer and emotionally clench your fists for Assad. But if we discard emotions, sympathies and soberly assess the balance of power, then everything becomes very sad for Bashar Hafezovich Assad. You need to think about where to evacuate your family.

[Odysseus]

Quote: Den 11

I don’t know why you decided that Assad’s war was lost? In my opinion, not everything is lost yet !!! This scum "he" lays down in packs a day. Let's see who else will take it !!! It is clear that you will buy this meat for a hundred more a bunch, but the truth is behind us. And what is the strength, brother? Right, in the truth!

Don’t worry. Assad’s position is strong enough. Without direct large-scale aggression by NATO and / or Israel, the Sunni rebels will not win the war.
Assad is now important not to respond to the provocation and not get involved in a war with Israel.
We need to focus on knocking out militants and blocking borders.

[Rioter]

And why I still have some optimism about Syria, despite the fact that Russia has obviously sold it, is that Russia has bargained for a significant presence in "Syria after Assad." otherwise I simply do not understand why and for the sake of two years they held the Stalingrad position on Syria and suddenly retreated. If this is not the case, I will be very puzzled.

[olegff68]

Quote: piotr534

The lack of logic in the actions of Australians is surprising.

The logic is the simplest - criticizing to the nines, playing on the nerves of LOKhkid, they tried to bring down the price, review contracts, etc., etc.

[Scythian 35]

Plus, the Indians, as they negotiate when buying weapons in Russia, make such mimes with the style of "Say thank you that I came to this swamp."

[Odysseus]

Quote: piotr534

The lack of logic in the actions of the Australians is surprising. They criticized the F-35 to the nines, saying that the SU-35 can easily lose even though the older generation, announced the rejection of the purchase and now the consent.

There is no lack of logic. Australia is one of the "junior allies" of the United States, that is, it has the right at least to its own opinion. Some Australian analysts and the military believe that if you buy a 5-generation aircraft, then the best is the F-22. .But Amer's F-22s don't sell.
In this regard, there was informational noise. Some comrades in Australia wanted to promote the United States on the F-22.

[sandrmur76]

It seems that the plane has nothing to do with it. Here politics and finances (huge). Let it fly only in a dream, it doesn’t matter! The main thing is behind business tycoons. They lobby in the government what they need and it imposes on the whole world. Selyavi. Such is life. Limits there is no imagination and greed! So such projects will still be the sea.

[Sirs]

Well done, you can say they burn bridges for this aircraft so that the program is not curtailed.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Sirs

Well done, you can say they burn bridges for this aircraft so that the program is not curtailed.

Nobody will curtail the program, everything is already set at the factory for a huge series, they will finish the tests and start riveting very, very quickly.

[saturn.mmm]

I will add. The Americans announced that they will collect 20 aircraft in month 240 per year

[gregor6549]

And a couple of cents about the plane. It should be remembered that Lockheed won a contract for this aircraft from Boeing in the fiercest competition. And the technical solutions incorporated in the design of the F35 are really promising. At the same time, the tie to the financing of the project of many countries played a cruel joke with the plane, because pressure from politicians forced the developers to start flight tests of a "raw" aircraft that was not yet ready for such tests. Those. there is premature birth. And premature birth often comes at a price with the health of the baby. But on the other hand, these same politicians will not let the baby die quietly and will try to keep up with the condition no matter what the cost. And they will hold out. By the way, similar tricks occurred with many samples of weapons and military equipment of the USSR. Remember at least MIG23. After all, it got to the point that serial MIGs were delivered to the military unit disassembled, and the mechanics of the military unit, together with the brigades of factory workers, had to assemble and debug these aircraft in conditions completely unsuitable for this. And all because these planes "made very fast" and did so that they could not fly after factory assembly in principle. Therefore, the exploiter had no choice but to take on the refinement of the aircraft at home. And they brought nothing. Where to go. And then the factories were put in order. This "litak" will also be delivered. The States have enough potential for this. And the grandmother? Why should we count their grandmothers? They should learn and count and use their own.

[APASUS]

This is called multi-echelon marketing!
The fact that you can’t SELL on your performance characteristics - you can SELL for purchase!
Australia most likely bought the plane under US pressure. We rescued an ally in a critical situation to save the program!

[Day 11]

Guys, all happy holidays --- Christ is Risen! Let's not swear and "shit" throw each other! Still, let's leave this site as a place of discussion, not a place of showdown! No matter what religions we all have, views on life and Something like this. Happy Holidays to everyone! PS Why did they minus the (DPRK Air Force)? I just wanted to set the mood!

[Gemar]

Quote: Den 11

Guys, all a happy holiday --- Christ is Risen!

The truth is Risen!

Quote: Den 11

Let's not swear and throw shit

And after all .. sure - not what is included, but what comes out! I hope you understand the whole "philosophical" essence of the statement!

Quote: Den 11

No matter what religions we all

Very important! Just the difference in religion is not a reason to do evil.

[b_e_l_y_s_h]

Well done, let them buy trash, and we are the only ones who will really fly on fighters of the 5th generation. What they want, they think about their F-22 and F35

[Day 11]

In fact, guys, we’re trying to conjecture something - Sergey-VAF will come --- put everything in order. So that he doesn’t leave this site (there is such information), let's announce a competition for the name of our PACK- 50 (there is such an offer)! Let's do it! Maybe the respected by all of us (without any irony is really a very competent and enlightened person) will stay with us? VAF-stay on this site !!! Without YOU, dear, Sergey (VAF) the site will be uninteresting!

[ATATA]

Quote: Den 11

VAF-stay on this site !!! Without YOU, dear, Sergey (VAF) the site will be uninteresting!

I understand Sergey very well!
It is impossible to express one’s opinion even literate, when 90% of the site is illiterate shkolota who is infected with URY by patriotism and hatred.
Which, due to complete illiteracy and the lack of desire to be objective, is only capable of obscuring the advanced developments of albeit hostile countries, BUT ADVANCED!
I myself am writing less and less here.
Shkolota wants to read, only what she likes.
Yes, all adequate people will run away from here.

F35 traveling samol.
Without a hitch, everything is fine and it turns out right away, only for those who don’t do anything.
ps
And once again I will say do not consider a strong adversary a moron, this is a direct path to our defeat!

[Rus2012]

and meanwhile -
Vesti: Israeli plane shot down over Syria, pilots were taken prisoner.
http://player.rutv.ru/index/iframe/video_cid/82844/sid/vesti/?acc_video_id=50514
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[Ezhaak]

Quote: Rus2012

Israeli plane over Syria shot down

I just dreamed about such news. Where is atalef, what will he say now? More such news.
By the way, the Jews here are also trying to trick, shelling from adjacent territory. Ushlapki.

[Day 11]

And also (including the name of our hawk-5), consult with friends, wives, girlfriends, etc.--- with everyone! Nobody will give you money for the name, but ... We Russians have something another that sets us apart from the Yankees. WE are PATRIOTS of our country!

[SEM]

Quote: VashEstambid

The fighter is wonderful, so the Australians have something to be proud of !!

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... Russia wouldn’t hurt to develop such an aircraft or directly purchase this one, supporting the F-35 program !!

That's when it becomes clear what the praise of this F-35 airplane is in a real battle then it will be possible to draw conclusions, but for now all this is talk and show-offs)))

[avant-garde]

What did Australia do to them that they want to undermine its economy ??? Or they sell them to know soooo-we sold planes to Australia to Australia, so the kangaroos live there, not in Austria, so what)))))

[Saraev]

Australians invest in technology, not offshore and UVZ.

[shtirlits]

It is always a pleasure to read such news.

[Ak 12]

Australian Defense Ministry confirms intention to purchase F-100 Fighter X-NUMX Fighter X-NUMX from the USA

all their budget shit

[Alikovo]

Australia impoverishes 1 pc. 110 lemons.

[Epiphans]

It looks like this:

F-35 aircraft is excellent. Yes, it is still problematic, and VTOL finally killed him with LTX - now they are not circus, which is not necessary. BUT the very fact of an attempt to create, and successful whoever clucks whatever, a SINGLE multi-purpose platform with wide capabilities is expensive. The Americans created a really modern aircraft, with the best avionics in the world, excellent radar (AFAR in Russia has not even been mastered on serial numbers yet), stealth. They demanded to combine the incompatible - and so they made the F-35. It’s naive stupidity to beat yourself in the chest and assure that supposedly Sukhoi Design Bureau would do better because it is impossible to do something cooler than Lightning with such conflicting JSF requirements. The United States today is a full-fledged leader in the aerospace industry, as if the haters would not yell. It is a fact.

Yes, F-35 has childhood diseases, there are also congenital disadvantages in LTH (it’s not trained in circus cobras, but it doesn’t need anywhere except an air show, and those who quote it should pay attention to the Su-35 and F-22) . Nevertheless, this is quite the fifth generation, which no country in the world has not yet mastered. Combine in one platform what was combined in the F-35 was not able to any country in the world. Well, except for Sweden, which initially washed down some kind of JSF program - JAS-Gripen.

[Gagarin]

I wrote some nonsense!

[zennon]

Absolutely agree!

[SPACE]

Quote: Epiphanes

The United States today is a full-fledged leader in the aerospace industry, as if the haters would not yell. It is a fact.

A leader who cannot send people to the ISS alone and the Russian-made rocket engines of 50 developed a long time ago, uses the roots of f-35 from Yakovlev Design Bureau and Yak-Xnumx.

Quote: Epiphanes

To combine in one platform what was combined in F-35 was not able to any country in the world. Well besides Sweden

And what did they combine that others did not combine? and swedes Please enlighten separately about the payload, taking into account the range and speed. Amuse us, I will give you a plus sign.

[Epiphans]

Well, at least let's start with the fact that they have been flying F-22s for almost 20 years. They combined primarily stealth with everything else. And he imposes severe restrictions, and of single-engine.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Epiphanes

It looks like this:

This large glass building is the Boeing Design Bureau in Moscow.
Tales about the fact that supposedly in the LM sit entirely Russian people - this is for a younger school come down.
One thing is for sure about LM, they worked closely with the Yakovlev Design Bureau in the 90s

[DPN]

They didn’t understand who they were going to fight with, there were only cap-countries, green papers weren’t enough.?

[Epiphans]

Quote: Gagarin

I wrote some nonsense!

In the case, what do you say?

[Curculum]

Quote: Epiphanes

In the case, what do you say?

Quote: Epiphanes

The USA today is a full-fledged leader in the aerospace industry

And where is the matter?

[Des10]

Why Australia needs 100 5 generation aircraft?

[Ezhaak]

Just in case. While the latter will be received, the first will have to be written off.

[RBXize]

If the Australians have nowhere to go, then let them buy at least 10,000 F-35s. This will only make us better. We will know which country flies on the coffin of the 5th generation with wings

[Gagarin]

How will this "fact of an attempt to create, and no matter how successful, whoever clucks, a SINGLE multipurpose platform with broad capabilities is expensive. The Americans have created a really modern aircraft, with the world's best avionics, an excellent radar (AFAR in Russia has not even been mastered on serials) They demanded to combine the incompatible - that's what the F-35 was made. "
At least it’s possible to fly on business without a hitch. But cackling in the chicken coop is not here! A little to the west.

“Beating yourself in the chest and assuring that the Sukhoi Design Bureau would have done better is naive stupidity, because it’s better not to do something cooler than Lightning with such conflicting JSF requirements.” It looks like you are knocking on your chest ?!

At the end of 90 or at the beginning of 2000 Americans flew in with their stealth, etc., impossible planes. It happened in August on the Day of Aviation R.F. The rain sputtered and they refused to take off on a demonstration flight! Only the French lieutenant colonel took off on a mirage. Honor to him. And the aircraft’s ability to perform incredible somersaults is called maneuverability, not a circus!

[Epiphans]

Quote: Gagarin

You seem to be knocking on your chest yourself ?!

At the end of 90 or at the beginning of 2000 Americans flew in with their stealth, etc., impossible planes. It happened in August on the Day of Aviation R.F. The rain sputtered and they refused to take off on a demonstration flight! Only the French lieutenant colonel took off on a mirage. Honor to him. And the aircraft’s ability to perform incredible somersaults is called maneuverability, not a circus!

Clear. Clear. So is there anything in the case? Only specifically. It just looks like you experienced it. PAIN from the fact that the truth hurts my eyes and the F-35 is a great car?

By its "super maneuverability" - it is impossible to organize it on an airplane with such a weight and thrust. I call circus somersaults at an air show.

[Komodo]

Quote: Epiphanes

It just looks from the side as if you experienced PAIN from the fact that the truth hurts your eyes and the F-35 is a great car

Why confuse people? If he (F-35) is better in something, then soon it will be "better" with the help of several people "in raincoats and with daggers" on our planes. Not the first time. And when the T-50 goes into production, the United States will stop building its F-35s, as happened with the F-117, which is too expensive for a target. And they will come to grips with the aircraft of the sixth generation. Do you know how many of our engineers, aviation scientists, after the collapse of the alliance in the American Research Institute and Design Bureau, are sitting? They do not let him take off. They will send us their developments, paid for by the Americans, via Skype. Why do you think our nuclear bomb took off just three years after the American one? Mustache under control.

[Epiphans]

The USA already has 2 fifth-generation fighters and the patriots do not like it. Tales about the fact that supposedly in the LM sit entirely Russian people - this is for a younger school come down.

[Komodo]

Quote: Epiphanes

Tales about the fact that supposedly in the LM sit entirely Russian people - this is for a younger school come down.

When the secret of a vigorous bomb was stolen, ours were not there at all.
And it’s easier to take away and put on a solid skeleton easier, cheaper, and faster than inventing it ourselves. Here we are waiting for them to bring this little thing to mind. And we already have a skeleton that is much cooler. It’s faster , more maneuverable, longer range. Other things being equal, this will play a decisive role.

[saturn.mmm]

Here is a link I think will be interesting at your leisure.
http://www.bendbulletin.com/article/20130505/NEWS0107/130509993/
And the F-35 is quite a good plane. There is a photo of the simulator.

[Curculum]

Quote: Epiphanes

Is the F-35 a great car?

Of course! (different from others).

[Gagarin]

This is a fact! Referred to weather conditions and did not take off!

[Epiphans]

I already understood. Cool. By the way, not everyone flew at the 100th anniversary of the Air Force. Then there was almost no rain.

[Curculum]

Quote: Epiphanes

Cool. By the way, not everyone flew at the 100th anniversary of the Air Force. Then there was almost no rain.

And who did not fly out of the claimed?

[Epiphans]

Due to non-flying weather, reduced performances. The same Swifts worked on a limited program for WWI.

[Curculum]

Quote: Epiphanes

Due to non-flying weather, reduced performances. The same Swifts worked on a limited program for WWI.

Why troll so thickly? There is a photo report of the Cavalier of the Order of the Red Star, captain of the Air Force reserve Kontorin I.S. http://nacekomie.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=5908&start=20
There is the following:
"Then they waited a long time for the arrival of Himself ... And they waited."
"Since the president's time was very limited, they decided to show him the most interesting, and this is the T-50 and" Russian Knights "with" Swifts "."
And the thunderstorm was after the departure of GDP ...
I recommend reading and watching, very entertaining.

[Epiphans]

Well then read then: http://photo-ilius.livejournal.com/17932.html

[Curculum]

Quote: Epiphanes

Well then read then

Bagels wildebeest. Do you even remember what they write to you and what you write?
I remind you:

Quote: Gagarin

This is a fact! Referred to weather conditions and didn’t take off!

Quote: Epiphanes

By the way, on the 100th anniversary of the Air Force not everyone was flying either. Then there was almost no rain.

Quote: Epiphanes

The same Swifts worked according to the limited program on PMV

Are you lost

[Epiphans]

Wildebeests

You have something on the forehead.

It was raining - flights were canceled: http://djlapsky.ru/page/2/

[Curculum]

Quote: Epiphanes

You have something on the forehead.

Sure you can? Keep something with you, as the freedom to wave something ends at the borders of another body.

Quote: Epiphanes

It was raining - the flights were canceled:

I quote from your own link:
"Part of the flights at the air show in Zhukovsky were canceled due to rain and hail"
"However, the organizers had to cancel some of the planned flights."
"The program at the air show in Zhukovsky in honor of the 100th anniversary of the Russian Air Force was interrupted by a heavy shower of hail."
So the organizers canceled or the participants refused?
And how does the above compare with yours:

Quote: Epiphanes

By the way, not everyone flew at the 100th anniversary of the Air Force. Then there was almost no rain.

?

[Gagarin]

If he were the best, I could have gritted my teeth. And so what r ... to admire?

[Epiphans]

So, now you’ll call me a Russian plane with an AFAR, stealth, internal compartments (tested, not mock-ups), and one-engine. About weapons, I will remain silent tactfully. There is no such plane. Well, then why call the F-35 g.m.?

[Curculum]

Quote: Epiphanes

So, now you’ll call me a Russian plane with an AFAR, stealth, internal compartments (tested, not mock-ups), and one-engine. About weapons, I will remain silent tactfully. There is no such plane.

These technologies and equipment are necessary and must operate in the air, and not on the ground. As you can see, some fly, and some are limited in flight.

[Gagarin]

It’s full of articles with comparisons about this f 35. Find and read! Everything is there on the case, as you want. Only pride for this plane you won’t add. It hurts you that there are Migi and Drying! Beautiful, amazing planes! And the whole world, on all air shows lift their heads to see these birds!

[Epiphans]

You didn’t say anything specifically. All clear. But in war, not beauty wins, but fighting efficiency.

[Gagarin]

Beauty will save the world! Maybe I heard? And can't beauty be friends with fighting efficiency!

[Curculum]

Quote: Epiphanes

But in war, not beauty wins, but fighting efficiency.

And where are the examples of any victories (not even military ones) that are "combat-ready"?

[avkeys]

Let all the trolls choke http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=gWt1Qf5JirM

[avkeys]

don’t piss, men, we won’t give up our country without blood

[Epiphans]

Throw the corpses. In Russian.

[Lopatov]

And even so. We will win anyway. This is also in Russian.

[Curculum]

Quote: Epiphanes

Throw the corpses.

Definitely, but add: the corpses of enemies! But whose territory is the third question, therefore I recommend: in order not to become the first, do not become the second. The choice is yours.

[avkeys]

And I have in general big doubts that you are a man. If you were near now, you could print something

[Gagarin]

The corpses of their enemies and throw them!

[Mr. Truth]

And there will be more planes in Australia than tanks ...

[avkeys]

We still have soldiers and officers in Russia. And when you get yours, then we'll see. What I doubt very much. My letter is addressed to all the bastards, you will understand

[Epiphans]

"Scum" through O is written, sodomite.

[Curculum]

Quote: avkeys

My letter is addressed to all the bastards, you will understand

Quote: Epiphanes

"Scum" through O is written, sodomite.

One decided ...

[Curculum]

Quote: Epiphanes

Come on, crawl under the key, Manya.

Here are you scribbling from ... Are you not a troll, but an advanced one in kind?

[Epiphans]

Why are you still here?

[Curculum]

Quote: Epiphanes

Why are you still here?

Did you have a "why" deficit as a child and now decided to catch up? Or do you now have a lack of communication among the girls?
Relax and have fun, the questions above are rhetorical.
Types like you "spinning spinning ball blue" are of no interest to me.

[avkeys]

Actually, I deliberately made a mistake, milking that .... robot. But sometimes ..... you need to insert a word

[avkeys]

To all trolls who want to prove what my number is 89050364719. I will answer everyone

[Marconi41]

Whatever it was, but F35 5th generation aircraft with appropriate avionics - that's why they take it. If something goes wrong, the service company will answer, i.e. USA. Plus, what else can Australia buy? Our drying with considerable investments in Ф35 - this is nonsense. So I think no one put "cancer" on anyone. F22 is not given to them, so they buy what they have. And in the event of conflicts, the United States will be with them and the integration of joint technology is always beneficial.
Yes, and what do we think of Australia? !!! We need to think about ourselves, about our T50 and its future, maybe about future developments of such a smaller aircraft.

[avkeys]

You hell
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