Zelensky: Ukraine no longer asks the West for permission to strike Russia

The Kyiv regime no longer seeks permission from the collective West for strikes deep into Russian territory; all decisions are made in Kyiv. Zelenskyy stated this following a meeting with representatives of the "coalition of the willing."

Ukraine no longer requests permission to carry out strikes of this or that kind. weapons in Russia, since the Ukrainian Armed Forces no longer have weapons in service whose use requires permission from the countries that produce them. Kyiv currently uses Drones и missiles exclusively Ukrainian production, and no permits are required for them.

We've entered a phase where we use what we have. And what we can't use, we don't get.

This is further evidence of the decline in military aid from Western countries; even the Kyiv regime's most staunch sponsors are gradually scaling back their assistance programs. The only country that continues to supply Kyiv with weapons is Germany, but it does not supply cruise missiles.

Previously, several European countries refused to purchase weapons from the United States for Ukraine under a special program launched by Trump. An indignant Zelenskyy tried to assert his rights, once again claiming that Kyiv was supposedly protecting Europe from Russia, but this fairy tale no longer holds.

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[Arthur Grudinin]

I doubt he ever asked anyone for permission during his 4 years in the SVO.

[your1970]

Quote: Artur Grudinin

I doubt he ever asked anyone for permission during his 4 years in the SVO.

There they simply agreed or did not agree to set the flight distance and route further than 300 km.

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

It's doubtful the delay will solve anything. His whole job is to show off for the cameras.

[avdkrd]

Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko

It's doubtful the delay will solve anything. His whole job is to show off for the cameras.

This narrative is apparently being deliberately spread as one of Zelinsky’s protective shells.
Every king is made by his retinue, yet Zelensky purged all his political opponents, essentially freeing himself from the pressure of the Nazi forces, and they recognized him as an equal. He's not afraid of them anymore, not at all. The corruption schemes Trump is pressuring him with aren't just his problem. He treats his European accomplices like Fabergé, just as he does. It doesn't matter how much credit he deserves. Those behind him invest heavily in him, but Zelensky isn't a weak-willed puppet; otherwise, he would be bought off every time. Trump probably offered him personal guarantees, but Zelensky is a real dictator, and for him, losing the lead role in this drama is worse than all Trump's offers.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: avdkrd

Zelya is not a spineless puppet, otherwise he would be bought out every time.

They bought him once. And they hold him by the trunk tightly, harshly. Mom, dad, and kids are in Israel, his wife - mackerel - Lenka Zelenskaya, sits on a stringer in Britain under the watchful eye of MI6, his money is counted and watched over by vigilant people from the US and British special services, he is guarded by MI6 sirs. Not a puppet, you say? But he can't eat without permission from the sirs and cowboys.

[avdkrd]

Quote: 30 vis

Yes, he can't eat without permission from the sirs and cowboys.

That may be true, but Trump couldn't buy it. Doesn't he have the resources to attract London or Europe, which he's been treading water on?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: avdkrd

That may be true, but Trump couldn't buy it.

What's the point of buying what's already been bought? Zelya owes Trump money.

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

Quote: avdkrd

Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko

It's doubtful the delay will solve anything. His whole job is to show off for the cameras.

This narrative is apparently being deliberately spread as one of Zelinsky’s protective shells.

He signed on from the moment he declared he wouldn't comply with Minsk II, and he might do so sooner. He made a deal, and then a series of events unfolded that don't relieve him of responsibility for his initial agreement.

[RUSICH]

Quote: Artur Grudinin

I doubt he ever asked anyone for permission during his 4 years in the SVO.

And what about intelligence? How can we do without it? If they share it, then they allow it.

[novel66]

And ours, apparently, are asking

[Terenin]

Zelensky: Ukraine no longer asks the West for permission to strike Russia

So, they had previously requested and received approval. Which was what needed to be proven... in court.

[Lako]

Sincere repentance is, of course, a mitigating circumstance, but I don't think it will help him anymore. The only surprising thing is that this clown hasn't yet been added to the terrorist list to be eliminated.

[Terenin]

Quote from lako

The only surprising thing is that this clown has not yet been added to the list of terrorists to be destroyed.

Truly a saint that is, the regime he leads is terrorist, and its leader is a saint.

[private person]

I doubt he ever asked anyone for permission during his 4 years in the SVO.

They didn't ask, they just shot and launched at pre-designated targets here in Russia.

[Lisa Kerner-Timoshenko]

He received orders from London!!!

[pexotinec]

So what's stopping him? Foreign weapons and ammunition factories are operating smoothly on the outskirts, and according to intelligence, there are over 30 drones. The first ballistic missile systems have appeared. Maybe I'm missing something in the actions of our military leadership? But why has this been going on for four years without any clarity?

[kapitan92]

Quote: pexotinec

So what's stopping him? Foreign weapons and ammunition factories are operating smoothly on the outskirts, and according to intelligence, there are over 30 drones. The first ballistic missile systems have appeared. Maybe I'm missing something in the actions of our military leadership? But why has this been going on for four years without any clarity?

Why are you asking stupid questions? What does the military leadership have to do with this? Write to Putin, the Kremlin! And ask your question. They'll tell you. There's a lot of nonsense brewed there.

[pexotinec]

I feel like they'll charge me with discrimination in the army after asking questions like these.

[Sergey Kondratyev]

You won't even get a warning on this site.

[Nikolay A. Shadov]

So that Messire can continue to ask rhetorical questions from the comfort of his couch in the comments section, rather than sitting in the cold trenches. Because the key resource here is humankind.

[pexotinec]

That's why you need to ask questions even from the comfort of your couch (I served my time in two southern companies), in order to preserve your human resources, and not feel sorry for the enemy.

[Nikolay A. Shadov]

Then I don't understand you even more. If you've been a participant in two military campaigns, then you should know far better than I that the duration and outcome of any operation are determined by the specific capabilities of the parties. You might as well ask why Stalin hesitated for four years before taking Berlin in 45.

[alexoff]

Stalin didn't have missiles that could fly thousands of kilometers without problems. And we see them flying. And they hit barrels of sunflower oil and post office warehouses.

[Nikolay A. Shadov]

1. We have such missiles. And so do the enemy. And in both cases, the wrong thing often burns. And often for purely "technical" reasons, since air defense and missile defense systems are effective on both our and their sides.
2. Question: Why do you ignore the huge number of military, industrial and logistics facilities that we have successfully hit?

[alexoff]

The destruction of a huge number of targets has, surprisingly, not resulted in a shortage of anything for the enemy for a long time. In the summer of 2022, oil refineries were hit, and gasoline suddenly disappeared in Ukraine. Now gasoline is coming from who knows where, and trucks are driving in neat rows through cities and villages. T-64s are rolling around, and all sorts of Cossacks and Bohdans are gathering somewhere. And enemy targets are hit, as always.
By the way, they attacked the bridge last year and disabled it. And it seems they've decided not to attack it anymore, because it's very important to the enemy, it establishes crossings, and there aren't many of them. Let them use it, in good health, otherwise what if there are mothers with strollers there?

[Nikolay A. Shadov]

Is it difficult for Messire to calculate how many countries and in what volumes support Ukraine with everything necessary for waging war - from weapons to fuel and lubricants?
As for infrastructure... Some things we can destroy, some we can't. Regarding some of them, there are obviously agreements. Does your lord know what exactly and what the conditions are? Let him share; I, for one, don't know (for some reason, the Foreign Ministry and the Defense Ministry aren't reporting them to me). But I suspect that without these agreements, your lord and I would now be preoccupied with far more serious problems than yet another internet squabble.
And most importantly, aren't you satisfied with the current results of the Central Military District? Then the question is: what is your lord doing here? Let's go to the front (the manpower shortage is one of the main reasons for the current state of affairs). Let's go to the factories to help increase military production. Let's go to schools and universities to help raise that very patriotic generation. And finally, let's go deliver humanitarian aid. And whining from anonymous accounts about mismanagement and its inappropriate actions—in my deep conviction, that's the lot of either weaklings or provocateurs.

[alexoff]

Is it difficult for Messire to calculate how many countries and in what volumes support Ukraine with everything necessary for waging war - from weapons to fuel and lubricants?

But how do they deliver it? Maybe armored trains go there in echelons on new railways? No, the tracks are the same, the cars are Soviet-era. But the support of other countries apparently makes it difficult to calculate the coordinates of the wheel exchange stations.

Let's go to schools and universities to help raise that very patriotic generation.

That's what I'm doing, so now I don't have a say anyway? Is management above criticism anyway, with its lies, swindles, grain deals, and Anchorage spirits? Maybe management will pay for its mistakes, which is why there are no Armatas or KAZs at the front, but people are driving around in armored loaves and T-62s—after all, they still produce and repair those somehow?

And whining from anonymous accounts about bad leadership and its wrong actions is, in my deep conviction, the lot of either weaklings or provocateurs.

Defending incompetent people who can't do anything is the preserve of those who like to suck up to their superiors. Such beliefs are usually not widely accepted in society.

[topol717]

Quote from alexoff

But Stalin didn't have rockets that could fly thousands of kilometers without problems.

Well, how could it not be? The IL-2 Sturmovik, 650 km and a 300 kg bomb load. Why not the Iskander? Or 600 kg, in which case the range is slightly shorter.

[alexoff]

The likelihood of an attack aircraft being shot down during an air defense penetration is enormous. It couldn't carry a single warhead—600 km one way. It's a dead ringer for an Iskander.

[topol717]

On the night of August 8, 1941, Soviet long-range bombers (DB-3) took off from airfields in the Baltics and dropped bombs on Berlin for the first time, creating a huge psychological effect.

They even made a movie about this operation.

[alexoff]

Their bombing accuracy was plus or minus 10 kilometers; they hit the city and that was good enough. If they had the Iskander's accuracy, the bombing wouldn't have been curtailed, but rather intensified.

[novel66]

Yes, they were shot down more often than the Iskanders, and there was both a pilot and a gunner.

[alexoff]

Yes, I suspect that if you were sent on a similar mission to the rear with a full load, the probability of being shot down would be close to 98%. Whereas the Iskanders' kill rate was about a couple of percent, according to American estimates.

[Sergey Kondratyev]

It lasts 4 years because you didn’t join the army.

[RUSICH]

Quote: Sergey Kondratiev

It lasts 4 years because you didn’t join the army.

Exactly. If only all the experts and smart people could join them, everyone would live in peace and harmony in one country long ago.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Foreign factories producing weapons and ammunition, and more than 30 drones, according to intelligence, operate without problems on the outskirts of the country.

Do you have access to intelligence data? Provide a complete list of factories. Addresses.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: pexotinec

Foreign factories producing weapons and ammunition, and drones, according to intelligence data, operate without problems on the outskirts of the country.

Could you please provide more details: whose factories are they, where are they located, and what exactly do they produce?

[novel66]

Off the top of my head: "Bogdans", "Flamingos", "Neptunes", armored vehicles...

[nik-mazur]

Quote: novel xnumx

"Bogdans" "Flamings" with "Neptunes" Armored vehicles

Are these foreign factories? OK. And where are they located?

[novel66]

Who said they were foreign?

[nik-mazur]

Quote: novel xnumx

Who said they were foreign?

The comrade above, in the comment that started this thread:

Quote: pexotinec

Foreign factories operate without any problems in the outskirts

Simply saying "foreign plant" sounds a bit awkward, as "foreign" implies a location outside the country. Therefore, the correct term is "foreign."

[pexotinec]

Sapsan. Possibly as a PR stunt. Alternatively, they're passing off the British missiles as their own.

[bayard]

"Sapsan" - OTRK with "Grom-2" missiles. An analogue of our Iskander (maybe not in terms of flight profile, but in terms of technical documentation from the time when the Russian Ministry of Defense ordered the Yuzhny Design Bureau to develop a technology for winding the TTD casing. The Americans banned cooperation, but some technical documentation remained and several attempts were made to make their own OTRK "like the Iskander but better" on used ones, but they did it only after the Maidan and with Saudi money. They launched serial production of the Grom-2 for the Sapsan several times and each time they hit their production sites and very seriously. First at Yuzhmash, then at others, including the Pavlograd Chemical Plant. And yes - that very Oreshnik strike on Yuzhmash was also carried out to destroy the underground workshops of Yuzhmash with very strong concrete floors 6 m thick. + made of grade-1000 concrete. . From which missile silos were built for ICBMs.
All known production sites for such equipment and ammunition have long been destroyed and cannot be restored. Now they're using non-core buildings, dispersing production, and moving underground (fortunately, there are plenty of underground ones, multi-level and quite durable ones, in used equipment). As new ones are discovered, they are damaged. It's a continuous process. Like the school problem about the pool and two pipes—"flows in/flows out."

[pexotinec]

You were born. German Rheinmetall, English Bayesystem, Polish. They're scattered in areas far from combat. They're churning out ammunition, spare parts, equipment, and drones. Official representatives even boast online about how they operate without any problems under very good protection. Our resource, TK Zvezda, even aired a program about it. As for their location, I'm not an intelligence officer. But I think our guys can ride around in more than just Helicopters.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: pexotinec

You were born. German Rheinmetall, English Bayesystem, Polish

And where do they work? Well, since your intelligence reports it. Because there were publicly available reports that they were planning to build a factory in Ukraine to produce something—Leopards, Bayraktars, shells... But all that remained just news.

Quote: pexotinec

Regarding their location, I am not an intelligence officer.

So do you know or don't you know?

[Tagan]

Foreign factories producing weapons and ammunition operate without any problems on the outskirts

It depends on what you're elevating to the level of "factory." If it's Mykola's garage, then sure.

[pexotinec]

Mykola's garage, as you put it, can churn out more than 1000 drones a day!!!

[Tagan]

Mykola's garage, as you put it, can churn out more than 1000 drones a day!!!

However, it never became a full-fledged factory. Screwdriver assembly and small-scale production can be organized anywhere.
Of course, you can draw up any numbers you want and talk about entire factories operating smoothly, but for some reason, reality turns out a little differently. Take, for example, massive attacks on the rear. The quantitative indicators differ dramatically. And this applies not only to drones but to a number of other weapons as well. So what if the Ukrainians are in good shape in this regard?

[nik-mazur]

Quote: pexotinec

Mykola's garage, as you put it, can churn out more than 1000 drones a day.

One garage, no, but a thousand garages, easily. It's a simple idea, isn't it?

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

Are you absolutely sure it's problem-free? Are you sure about that? Do you have any examples of Western weapons factories thriving in the ruins?

[pexotinec]

I beg of you Have you heard about the problems with the supply of ammunition, weapons, and intelligence? They even trade in it. The problem is with people.

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

Don't beg me, I'm not God. Better yet, tell our SVR, GRU, and FSB the well-known coordinates of the Rheinmetall factories and others...
It's easy to just blather on about a hot topic. Backing it up with anything, even the slightest bit, is difficult.
There is no point in philosophically posting what has been posted many times and looking condescendingly at the information furor that has been created - there is none.
Those who are supposed to do what they are supposed to do are doing what they are supposed to do. There's no point in getting worked up about it.

[jovanni]

We've entered a phase where we use what we have. And what we can't use, we don't get.


This is further evidence of the decline in military aid from Western countries.

What other witness testimony?! To believe this is to disrespect oneself...

[Mouse]

We have entered a phase,

The phase has been zero for a long time...

[novel66]

Neutral or ground?
Hello!

[Mouse]

We are not satisfied with the neutral... And it is high time to ground...

[dementor873]

Quote: pexotinec

So what's stopping him? Foreign weapons and ammunition factories are operating smoothly on the outskirts, and according to intelligence, there are over 30 drones. The first ballistic missile systems have appeared. Maybe I'm missing something in the actions of our military leadership? But why has this been going on for four years without any clarity?

This has been going on since 2014, when Western interests took precedence over the lives of people in Donbas. It will continue as long as the economy can bear the burden of expenses.

The federal program for resettling residents from dilapidated housing has been temporarily suspended. According to State Duma deputy Andrei Gurulev, there is currently no funding for it—the funds were reallocated after the special operation began. It is not yet known when funding will be restored.

[alexoff]

The federal program for resettling residents from dilapidated housing has been temporarily suspended. According to State Duma deputy Andrei Gurulev, there is currently no funding for it—the funds were reallocated after the special operation began. It is not yet known when funding will be restored.

Five kilometers from the Moscow Ring Road, there are dilapidated Khrushchev-era buildings where my relatives live. They were slated for demolition about 15 years ago. But apparently, the SVO drained the money for the demolition long before it started.

[Krasnoyarsk]

You read these articles and you're amazed – they're not given weapons, everyone is deserting the Ukrainian Armed Forces, mobilization is forced and difficult, their electricity has been cut off everywhere, and yet we're taking some lousy village somewhere in Donbas or Kharkiv Oblast with sweat and blood. And how do you understand all this? We've been liberating Kupyansk for months.

[Volunteer Marek]

Really? A very brazen statement. So, they claim they made ANY weapon when they use it? From Abrams to Tomahawks? And, of course, the gentlemen take their word for it, and the rest of the global community nods in agreement... well, while the "non-global community" expresses concern. The question is: who, then, are we going to ask permission to use various types of weapons against specific targets? If anything, the question is rhetorical.

[Same lech]

Germany supplied the Ukrainian Armed Forces with two sets of Patriots...the bastards really messed things up.

[Sergey Kondratyev]

Of course, of course, it strikes with its missiles and UAVs, conducts reconnaissance of the target itself, and directs the strike itself. All by itself, by itself.

[Volunteer Marek]

Yes, in four years, the Banderites created the most advanced military industry in the world. And this was under war conditions. In other words, they were able to create in just a few years what took the most economically developed Western countries decades to achieve. Remarkable.

[Sergey Kondratyev]

They haven't created anything. Ukraine had advanced industry in 1991, but now it's completely nonexistent. All that exists in Ukraine is the mere assembly of certain types of weapons. Not just components, but entire assemblies are imported from the West. What kind of "airplanes and tanks" does this "advanced industry" produce? And what kind of "missiles"?

[Volunteer Marek]

Are you just pretending... or are you for real?

[Sergey Kondratyev]

Should I come up with your question myself or will you tell me what you wanted to ask?

[Goroches]

The person hinted that the comment was full of sarcasm and that what was written should not be taken literally.

[Sergey Kondratyev]

I didn't realize it was sarcasm. And then, instead of saying it was sarcasm, was it a hint? Why should I guess what someone meant instead of them directly saying what they meant?

[ximkim]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

You read these articles and you're amazed – they're not given weapons, everyone is deserting the Ukrainian Armed Forces, mobilization is forced and difficult, their electricity has been cut off everywhere, and yet we're taking some lousy village somewhere in Donbas or Kharkiv Oblast with sweat and blood. And how do you understand all this? We've been liberating Kupyansk for months.

Censorship - the media and how they can spin in order to avoid this destructive machine of the authorities.

[ximkim]

Quote: dementor873

Quote: pexotinec

So what's stopping him? Foreign weapons and ammunition factories are operating smoothly on the outskirts, and according to intelligence, there are over 30 drones. The first ballistic missile systems have appeared. Maybe I'm missing something in the actions of our military leadership? But why has this been going on for four years without any clarity?

This has been going on since 2014, when Western interests took precedence over the lives of people in Donbas. It will continue as long as the economy can bear the burden of expenses.

The federal program for resettling residents from dilapidated housing has been temporarily suspended. According to State Duma deputy Andrei Gurulev, there is currently no funding for it—the funds were reallocated after the special operation began. It is not yet known when funding will be restored.

So if there is no money or there won’t be enough, it ends up being spent for other purposes.

[navigator777]

Of course, the stupid generals have gotten to the point where they have full-scale production of drones now, why should they ask, they are destroying ships and oil refineries every day, good luck to the brainless snot-nosed ones.

[urik62]

Just a little more and then we'll definitely hit the decision-making centers. Medvedev promised Kyiv a judgment day several years ago, and now they're claiming we decided it ourselves, and that's where they are, the decision-making centers.

[navigator777]

Quote: urik62

Just a little more and then we'll definitely hit the decision-making centers. Medvedev promised Kyiv a judgment day several years ago, and now they're claiming we decided it ourselves, and that's where they are, the decision-making centers.

The decision-making centers must sign the peace treaty, and therefore they are immune. And Dima, the chatterbox who started this whole mess, is sitting in Moscow, completely safe, so they can spout all sorts of nonsense for as long as they want without risking anything.

[valera75]

The Kiev regime no longer asks the collective West for permission to strike deep into Russian territory; all decisions are made in Kyiv.

huh

This is further evidence of the decline in military aid from Western countries.

but it seems to me that this stoned bastard is shielding his owners from some kind of provocation that is just around the corner since he already said it.

[dementor873]

Quote from alexoff

The federal program for resettling residents from dilapidated housing has been temporarily suspended. According to State Duma deputy Andrei Gurulev, there is currently no funding for it—the funds were reallocated after the special operation began. It is not yet known when funding will be restored.

Five kilometers from the Moscow Ring Road, there are dilapidated Khrushchev-era buildings where my relatives live. They were slated for demolition about 15 years ago. But apparently, the SVO drained the money for the demolition long before it started.

In each region, local authorities independently determine the list of housing to be demolished and the compensation for its residents from local funds and budgets. I suspect that Moscow and the Moscow region have a larger population than a dozen other Russian regions combined.

[501 Legion]

It's time to eliminate absolutely the entire top brass and those who participated in the coup of 14.

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

Then don't scream about the answers! You did it yourself, so you answer for yourself.

[Enotovich]

Thank you, Mr. Putin, for your guarantees to Zelensky. The lives of thousands of Russian citizens dying on orders from Kyiv are entirely on your conscience.

[oleg_627]

It seems no one is even asking about attacks on Russia anymore. The main thing is not to blur the red lines. Anyone who was even slightly loyal to us will be quietly taken over. But we are liberal democrats, and everyone is deceiving us. It's a shame Stalin's leadership is gone.

[Godmother]

After the regime change in Venezuela every pretense is nonsense.
Zelensky does the right thing in his position - he takes the gloves off.

What does Russia do....silence...they are all shocked and stunned by what happened in Venezuela - is Russia all talk and no walk?
It looks like it.....

[Lisa Kerner-Timoshenko]

And how does Russia respond??????????????

...well, yes, there are brothers and sisters and also fighters of the Russian fascist Kapustin (by the way, the parents of this "vegetable" are Jews and live in Germany. And this guy became a fascist in Germany!!!

[Paragraph]

And God himself has given us permission not to explain anything to anyone.

[sgr291158]

I'm already tired of this talking head, when will they unscrew it.

[Kusja]

Then why are we trying to prove to the Americans that the Ukrainians were involved in the attacks on the residence?

[Umptek]

To fly something deep into Russia, you need precise reconnaissance of the intended route, the current location of air defense assets, and possibly make adjustments en route to the target based on the changing situation. How can this be done from the ground? Yes, it's possible in principle, but in practice, it's incredibly difficult. It's a different matter when you have "eyes, ears, and a brain" hovering above the enemy's operational range, high above, seeing far, far away. The Outskirts doesn't have such systems. Only if they're borrowed, and since they need not only hardware but also personnel, then they're not borrowed, but rather supported—long-term, well-established support. Attacking something 1000 kilometers deep into Russia simply with a pre-programmed mission, and without an alliance or subordination to the will of those same "eyes, ears, and brains," is, in a way, a Russian way of saying, "let's just hope."