What did the "500 Days" program for transition to a market economy promise to citizens of the USSR?

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What did the "500 Days" program for transition to a market economy promise to citizens of the USSR?

In the late 80s, the Soviet Union was increasingly plunged into political and economic crisis. The country's leadership openly discussed the ineffectiveness of the socialist model of national development compared to the capitalist model. The need for radical reforms to transition to a market economy became urgent.

To overcome the 1990 economic crisis and realize the "rights of citizens to a better, more dignified life," a program for the transition from the Soviet Union's planned economy to a market economy was developed. The working group responsible for creating the program was formed at the initiative and joint decision of Mikhail Gorbachev and Boris Yeltsin. However, among the public and expert community, it became known as the "Shatalin-Yavlinsky program," after the names of its main developers and leaders.



The second common name for this program is the "500-day program" (the first working title was "400 days of trust"). Its developers envisioned achieving, within this timeframe, as rapid and effective a transition from the planned Soviet economy to a market economy as possible.

Although the program was never actually implemented, it's important to recall what exactly it offered Soviet citizens. After all, the essence of the reforms was an evolutionary transition to capitalism while preserving all the positive aspects of the planned economy and, as its developers stated, "moving toward the market primarily at the expense of the state, not at the expense of ordinary people."

In general, the 500 Days program contained the following proposals:

privatization of state property;
decentralization of economic management;
transition to free pricing;
providing favorable conditions for the development of private entrepreneurship.

Here's what Grigory Yavlinsky said about the program 11 years ago:

This was the country's first market-oriented program. Anyone who read it knows that the program didn't envision the country becoming like Switzerland or another, even more developed, market economy in 500 days. It envisioned a year and a half of consistent and clear steps aimed at creating a market economy in Russia.

According to Yavlinsky, the program's key objective was to prevent hyperinflation, and to privatize state property using funds accumulated by the population. The program was "addressed to the entire Soviet Union." It envisioned preserving a unified economic space for all Soviet republics, with a single currency, a common banking union, a free trade zone, and so on.

By September 1, 1990, the "500 Days" program and 20 draft laws for it had been prepared, approved by the Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR, and submitted to the Supreme Soviet of the USSR. Simultaneously, at the direction of Nikolai Ryzhkov, Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR, an alternative draft—"Main Directions of Development"—was being developed. Ryzhkov declared that if it was not adopted, he would resign. As a compromise, Mikhail Gorbachev proposed merging the two programs into a single presidential program for the USSR.

Yavlinsky later recalled that he and the other developers of the "500 Days" program were barred from implementing their plan. He then joined the opposition and created the Yavlinsky-Boldyrev-Lukin electoral bloc, which later became the Russian Democratic Party "Yabloko."



Ultimately, everything ended with the collapse of the Soviet Union, the beginning of the "wild nineties," and the construction of capitalism in the newly formed Russian Federation followed a completely different scenario, created and implemented by Yegor Gaidar's team under Yeltsin's complete carte blanche. In theory, the plan was to quickly restructure the system based on the principles of an extremely liberal monetary policy. In reality, the transformation processes took on a chaotic character with a profoundly criminal slant. But that's a topic for another review.

Some experts still believe that if the "500 Days" program had been fully implemented, the USSR would not have collapsed, and the country could well have achieved a Swiss-like economy. Or, alternatively, it would have been entirely painless for citizens to build a capitalism modeled on China, likely preserving shared economic ties across the post-Soviet space. Is this true?

For example, Belarus clearly benefits from economic synergy with Russia within the Union State. The Baltic republics, by contrast, rank last among EU countries in all indicators. Moldova, and especially the former Ukrainian SSR, are not even worth mentioning.



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  1. +9
    24 December 2025 19: 36
    Comedians... How can you remake people's consciousness, or rather, the population, in 500 days? I understand they skimped on hypno-generators.
    1. +20
      24 December 2025 20: 01
      Quote: Not the fighter
      I understand they saved money on hypnogenerators :(

      Well why.
      Chumak and Kashpirovsky tried their best on the central TV screens, not to mention the newly-minted "democrats" and "liberals" taken together. wink
      Just look at Zhirinovsky in the 90s, with his fights in the Supreme Council, like the "Verkhovna Rada" of the 2000s.
      Scum, they sold the country for beads and Bush's legs.
      1. +1
        25 December 2025 15: 04
        1. First of all, please clarify who sold the country and what is the connection between this and Yabloko?
        2. Yavlinsky asked for 500 days, but they didn’t give him even half, with the explanation that he “couldn’t handle it.”
        3. Name someone in our country who has achieved something in the 500 days since Yavlinsky.
        4. Yavlinsky was the first to expose widespread corruption at the highest levels of government, for which the LDPR, led by Zhirinovsky, was booed in the Duma, after which his project was shut down. The Chubais brothers came to power.
        1. 0
          25 December 2025 23: 26
          Well, they're all young and energetic. As the red-haired one said back in the 80s, at underground meetings near St. Petersburg, they were already discussing the collapse of the Union and privatization. Yavlinsky will be there a little later. But his privatization ideas are being pushed by the red-haired Chubais.
          1. 0
            26 December 2025 09: 22
            Still didn't understand who came where.
          2. 0
            26 December 2025 09: 42
            You'll agree that retail, hairdressers, all manner of household goods, and small local businesses should definitely not be state-owned. And even larger enterprises, with the exception of defense, railways, and the giants, should be publicly owned. Yavlinsky's ambitions were generally sound, but the implementation was lacking. And then privatization finally happened... but how?
    2. +5
      24 December 2025 21: 17
      It's certainly laughable. But those five hundred days were squeezed into a month. Matches jumped from one kopeck to a ruble in a week. A hundredfold. And off it went.
  2. +18
    24 December 2025 19: 50
    Russia had a chance to pursue an alternative path of market reform. But someone had to concentrate former socialist property in the hands of a handful of oligarchs, not the people.
    1. +11
      24 December 2025 20: 04
      What did you expect from a bunch of corrupt "businessmen" of that time? They were ready to sell everything and everyone for personal enrichment.
      1. +11
        24 December 2025 20: 14
        Quote: marchcat
        What did you expect from a bunch of corrupt "businessmen"?

        It all started not with businessmen, but with party officials who were unable to manage the country's income or bequeath enterprises to their families...
    2. +5
      24 December 2025 23: 32
      Quote: Glock-17
      Russia had a chance to pursue an alternative path of market reform. But someone had to concentrate former socialist property in the hands of a handful of oligarchs, not the people.

      There was no such chance - in the end, everything would have ended up in the hands of the oligarchs anyway
      1. 0
        25 December 2025 00: 11
        There are always chances, but not everyone can take advantage of them, especially fatalists.
        1. +3
          25 December 2025 00: 33
          Quote: Glock-17
          There are always chances, but not everyone can take advantage of them, especially fatalists.

          I just saw in the villages how people were being ripped off by people like the communist candidate. In the end, they got everything—the process just dragged on for 20 years, unlike in industry, where they divided things up in 3-5 years.
          1. +3
            25 December 2025 05: 00
            Only the naive can think that calling oneself a communist means one is crystal clear. I personally witnessed the destruction of former collective farms.
            1. +1
              25 December 2025 06: 02
              Quote: Glock-17
              I personally witnessed how former collective farms were destroyed.

              So you do agree after all?
              Quote: your1970
              There was no such chance - in the end, everything would have ended up in the hands of the oligarchs anyway
              ??
              1. 0
                25 December 2025 07: 05
                I don't have all the information to answer your question. What's important is to know whether the predatory privatization was a deliberate policy or a foolish miscalculation. In the latter case, there might have been a chance if they had followed Yavlinsky's proposed path.
                1. +3
                  25 December 2025 12: 12
                  Quote: Glock-17
                  In the second case, there might have been a chance if they had followed the path proposed by Yavlinsky.

                  There's always someone quick to respond to any stupid mistake—so as soon as the smell of money hits, everything will be exactly the same. Correcting a mistake during the division is practically impossible.
            2. +1
              27 December 2025 01: 02
              It's naive to think that being a party member means being crystal clear. All party members came from the people, who are all "crystal clear"? But there are different people everywhere, with different consciences and senses of duty—among the common people, in the administrative apparatus, and among party members. I, too, have seen how some communists created such collective farms and other organizations, while others later destroyed them, and the former were simply left with nothing.
              And to separate the "people" from that party is wrong, as if the people are all angels, and the party members are all sh...t.
  3. +16
    24 December 2025 19: 50
    These 500 days have been going on for 35 years now...
    1. +3
      24 December 2025 23: 56
      That's exactly it, everything that's written in the 500-day plans:
      privatization of state property;
      decentralization of economic management;
      transition to free pricing;
      providing favorable conditions for the development of private entrepreneurship.
      It actually happened. What's wrong?
      1. +4
        25 December 2025 06: 57
        Quote: Umptek
        It actually happened. What's wrong?

        These are the signs of a normal capitalist economy, and we have only fully implemented the first point.
  4. +11
    24 December 2025 19: 59
    What did the "500 Days" program for transition to a market economy promise to citizens of the USSR?
    The site rules prohibit answering this question, you will be immediately banned
  5. +21
    24 December 2025 19: 59
    This is what Jeffrey Sachs said about our "reformers"
    The main thing that let us down was the colossal gap between the reformers’ rhetoric and their actual actions… And, it seems to me, the Russian leadership surpassed the most fantastic ideas of Marxists about capitalism: they considered that the business of the state is serve a small circle of capitalists, pumping as much money into their pockets as quickly as possible. This isn't shock therapy. It's a malicious, deliberate, well-thought-out operation aimed at a large-scale redistribution of wealth in the interests of a small group of people.
    1. +2
      24 December 2025 20: 11
      Quote: Konnick
      Here's what Jeffrey Sachs said

      In hindsight, telling the truth doesn't cost much. What is he doing in our media sphere?
      1. +3
        24 December 2025 20: 27
        What is he doing in our media sphere?
        He still speaks and teaches us how to live! wink
  6. +8
    24 December 2025 20: 03
    What's there to guess about? If there was a chance for a "softer" outcome, it was squandered.
    Remember: both the authorities and the "bloggers, experts, and change leaders" hired by them unanimously criticized the program and declared it to be rubbish.
    These people have been in power for 35 years, there is no turning back, they hold on to power with an iron fist, they playfully outplay both the population and the opposition, if something goes wrong... the example of Lebed, Fedorov, Navalny, Strelkov, Prigozhin, Grudinin, and others is right before our eyes.

    Nothing can be changed.
    Remember - Moses led the way through the sands for 40 years until all the previous ones died - there were still 5 years left
    1. +6
      24 December 2025 20: 10
      Quote: Max1995
      Remember: both the authorities and the “bloggers, experts, leaders” hired by them

      +++ The "Vzglyad" program alone was worth it. It showed garbage so skillfully that every Soviet person had to criticize the government!
    2. +4
      24 December 2025 20: 28
      Remember - Moses led the way through the sands for 40 years until all the previous ones died - there were still 5 years left
      I think we are being led in the wrong direction.
      1. +11
        24 December 2025 20: 38
        Quote: Schneeberg
        Remember - Moses led the way through the sands for 40 years until all the previous ones died - there were still 5 years left
        I think we are being led in the wrong direction.

        So Moses did not have the goal of leading somewhere specific
        The goal was - until the last one who remembers dies
        So, we are definitely heading in that direction.
        Very much
        1. +4
          24 December 2025 21: 24
          Quote from sdivt
          So, we are definitely heading in that direction.

          Who are we? Moscow, St. Petersburg, and Yekaterinburg are marching. In the first two, the liberals, who finally came to power, and the fifth column, which had become the first, donned the tricolor robes and are leading the residents of these cities; in the third, they didn't even change their clothes; they opened a branch of the Judas Center in Moscow just as they were. But Russia isn't going anywhere; Russia is fighting and surviving. But still, in the end, it will turn out like 91: about twenty thousand Moscow and Leningrad Jewish intellectuals and marginalized artists jumped around in Moscow and ended up drowning the entire Union. They'll bring Russia along, too.
        2. +7
          25 December 2025 01: 30
          Quote from sdivt
          So Moses did not have the goal of leading somewhere specific
          You haven't read the Bible carefully. Moses led them to a specific location, and he got them there in just two years. But when he sent spies to scout out the Palestinian cities, they reported that other peoples were already living there. Moreover, these peoples were strong, their cities were well fortified, and the god Yahweh hadn't driven them out, contrary to his promises (that is, the promises of Moses).
          Moses pretended to be terribly angry. Not at Yahweh for lying, and not even at the Palestinians for not willingly abandoning their land. He blamed everything on his own spies, who had truthfully reported what they had seen. The enraged prophet led his sect back into the desert, where he built a massive concentration camp (there's no other name for it), and kept them there in complete slavery for 38 years.
          Whether this was true or not, the Torah and the Bible describe the events precisely this way. However, elsewhere in the same book it is written that the Jews did attack the people living in Palestine, but they were dealt a severe blow, and ultimately fled into the desert.

          Quote from sdivt
          The goal was - until the last one who remembers dies
          Nonsense! Most of Moses' followers were much younger than him! He simply ruled them like slaves, in a concentration camp they built, until he himself croaked. And only then did they dare set foot in Palestine again.
          1. +5
            25 December 2025 10: 20
            Quote: The Meaning of Life
            You haven't read the Bible carefully.

            You'll laugh, but I haven't read the Bible at all.
            But the point is that this story with Moses is known not by any real historical facts, but by the accepted interpretation (to lead for 40 years until the last one who remembers dies)
            And this is by no means the only example, and the Bible itself plays no role here at all.
            Here, for example, is my favorite story that is associated with the phrase "Potemkin villages"
            What comes to mind when we say or hear this?
            There is a historical fact: in the 1780s, Catherine II undertook a famous journey to Crimea, which had just been annexed to Russia.
            Now, from what we all remember (and what is most often told): according to legend, the Empress's favorite, Grigory Potemkin, in order to conceal the poverty and disrepair of the new lands and curry favor with her, ordered the construction of fake scenery of luxurious villages along her route. Supposedly, the same dressed-up peasants and herds of cattle were driven behind them, creating the illusion of prosperity. This myth has become a worldwide synonym for deception and fraud.
            And today, for the most part, we remember Potemkin not as an army reformer, or a person who played an exceptional role in the annexation of Crimea, not as the founder (or initiator of the development) of such cities as Nikolaev, Kherson, Sevastopol, not as a person who founded and built shipyards, ports, fortresses, created the Black Sea Fleet, attracted colonists, developed winemaking and sericulture, but exclusively as the creator of Potemkin villages
            But Potemkin's true role is of little interest to anyone today. And the fact that the arrival of a monarch, all over the world, was organized precisely like this—the streets along which the cortege would travel were landscaped, the facades were painted, and so on—is of little interest to anyone.
            The label has been hung on, Potemkin villages are synonymous with deception and window dressing.
            This is such a twist in history)

            ps
            I have every reason to suspect that there are many more such stories, stories that are widely known not because of the actual facts, but because of some anecdotal, distorted retellings.
            But that's life, and it's not for us to judge it.
            1. +2
              25 December 2025 15: 13
              I agree with you about the distortion of history, using the example of Potemkin and Catherine, who supposedly died under a horse (an outrageous lie, but still believed). But they keep quiet about how Russia's population increased by several million during her reign, and that the navy was built and the economy grew. But they write about everything bad and twisted for the sake of negativity. Propaganda has always been a weapon.
            2. -1
              26 December 2025 01: 28
              Quote from sdivt
              accepted interpretation (to drive for 40 years until the last one who remembers dies)
              I've always wondered what idiot came up with that interpretation? An 80-year-old man would lead a crowd of people of all ages, most likely the young and healthy, hoping they'd die before he did.
              These interpreters weren't even bothered by the fact that the period of ordeals ended immediately after Moses' death, even though there were likely still many people aged 50 and older who remembered Egypt well. Even though Moses, with his mass murders and cannibalistic laws, did everything he could to reduce the population of his followers.

              This story with Moses is not known for any real historical facts
              Well, some extra-biblical evidence has survived. But it's even more terrifying and disgusting. If you're interested, search for "Osarsiph."
        3. +1
          25 December 2025 03: 17
          Quote from sdivt
          So Moses did not have the goal of leading somewhere specific
    3. -8
      24 December 2025 20: 32
      Quote: Max1995
      the example of Lebed, Fedorov, Navalny

      About the sold-out swan and Alyoshka, God forgive me, Navalny is funny
      and the one about Grudinin is just hilarious
      1. +5
        24 December 2025 20: 35
        Democracy is here. You can laugh at them...
        They're all dead anyway... laughing at the dead is some people's favorite pastime...
        1. -5
          24 December 2025 20: 40
          do not write nonsense and you will be happy
          1. +1
            24 December 2025 22: 28
            I didn't ask you. Keep laughing. You can laugh at them, the dead ones.
            1. -7
              24 December 2025 22: 42
              I said the same about them and about the living ones
    4. 0
      25 December 2025 21: 25
      You did a fantastic job rehabilitating Navalny! And have you forgotten Khodorkovsky and Berezovsky?
      1. -1
        26 December 2025 10: 15
        Wow, you made this up out of thin air! Work?
  7. +5
    24 December 2025 20: 04
    Russia had already built an outstanding economy, generating 13% annual growth, adequately combining public and private production, ensuring the country's continuous development in all spheres and improving the citizens' standard of living. China created its own "miracle," essentially copying its key features. And yet, for 70 years now, we've been unable to simply restore what we already had.
    1. -5
      24 December 2025 20: 33
      Quote: Ivan_Sergeev
      Russia has already built an outstanding economy, generating 13% growth per year.
      Are you talking about a crispy bun and a dozen tractors for the whole country?!!!
      ahh, I forgot, about the entire mining industry owned by foreigners
      1. +3
        24 December 2025 20: 40
        First, figure out the arithmetic before you comment. They started killing that economy in the 1960s and finished it off completely in the 1980s. Since then, all that's left is the ongoing economic-oligarchic circus.
        1. -6
          24 December 2025 20: 41
          Quote: Ivan_Sergeev
          First, you need to figure out the arithmetic.

          First, you will learn to correctly express your thoughts, what and about what you write
          1. +4
            24 December 2025 20: 43
            Sorry, I'm used to dealing with people with fairly high intelligence who don't need everything explained to them like they're first-graders.
            1. 0
              24 December 2025 20: 44
              Rudeness is our everything, apparently in your environment it's normal
        2. 0
          24 December 2025 22: 14
          False. Look at the statistics, for example.
          Ioffe Ya.A. We and the Planet: Facts and Figures
          7th edition, supplemented. - M.: Politizdat. 1988. - 256 p.
      2. 0
        24 December 2025 21: 26
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Are you talking about a crispy bun and a dozen tractors for the whole country?

        He's talking about the City on Seven Hills.
    2. 0
      2 January 2026 15: 23
      Quote: Ivan_Sergeev
      And for 70 years now we have not been able to simply restore what we already had.

      To restore it, you need three things: 1. a program, 2. a lot of money, 3. a lot of people to shoot.
      There's a problem with the program—too many swans, crayfish, and pike! The money goes to the SVO, and many of those who are supposed to manage the project are its main enemies and will have to shoot themselves!
  8. +4
    24 December 2025 20: 06
    Gorbachev is a Judas; he knew all the inner workings of Perestroika, a master of underhanded tactics, and he pulled the wool over people's eyes. He combined the programs and probably coordinated them with the Pope at the Vatican and with Margaret Thatcher in London. wassat
    1. +6
      24 December 2025 20: 34
      Quote: aybolyt678
      The master of underhanded tactics was pulling the wool over the people's eyes.

      What kind of master is he?!!!!
      a mid-level bureaucrat who couldn't properly implement any project, neither while in Stavropol nor later in the Union
      1. +3
        25 December 2025 19: 06
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        What kind of master is he?!!!

        Do you know the word "underhanded"? He masterfully got out of difficult situations when he was screwing up his projects or even managing to set someone up. Have you seen his speeches? I saw a situation where six PhD candidates couldn't formulate what he was talking about after his 20-minute speech! And how he muddied up meetings! "Comrades, speak up, express your opinions," but he never let a specialist speak; he hated them!
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        I couldn't properly implement any project, neither while in Stavropol, nor later in the Union
        He brilliantly carried out the project to dismantle the USSR. Although it's possible that at first he was used in the dark.
        1. 0
          26 December 2025 07: 43
          Once again, I will provide links to my articles:
          [https://topwar.ru/234205-tehnologija-polzuchej-burzhuaznoj-kontrrevoljucii-19851993-gg-i-kak-ej-protivodejstvovat-chast-1.html]

          [https://topwar.ru/234344-tehnologija-polzuchej-burzhuaznoj-kontrrevoljucii-19851993-gg-i-kak-ej-protivodejstvovat-chast-2.html]

          [https://topwar.ru/234755-tehnologija-polzuchej-burzhuaznoj-kontrrevoljucii-19851993-gg-i-kak-ej-protivodejstvovat.html]

          [https://topwar.ru/237615-o-diktature-proletariata-trudjaschihsja-io-dvizhuschej-sile-burzhuaznoj-kontrrevoljucii-1985-1993-gg.html]

          These bad people (Gorbachev and Yeltsin) acted according to a clear, targeted plan to restore capitalism.
          The question of who developed it is open.
          1. 0
            26 December 2025 17: 19
            Quote: October
            These bad people (Gorbachev and Yeltsin) acted according to a clear, targeted plan to restore capitalism.
            The question of who developed it is open.

            Who developed it in great detail, who implemented it, is described in Lisichkin's book "War After War, the Information Occupation Continues." Have you read that?
            1. +1
              27 December 2025 18: 49
              I haven't read it, but it's very interesting. While I was skimming through it, it seems to have a lot in common with what I've written in my articles. I'll definitely read it in its entirety. But the author, who developed the plan, doesn't write it either; here's what he said:
              A systematic analysis of the events reveals that the Gorbachev-Yakovlev-Medvedev group, including any associates, was incapable of carrying out the task. This is only possible if we assume that Gorbachev's group was controlled from the outside and made extensive use of data and prefabs, the creation of which must have involved many thousands of people. In other words, everything that was accomplished was the result of an information war waged by the United States. The Gorbachevites, in turn, played the role of cogs in the cog.
            2. +1
              27 December 2025 18: 55
              I haven't read it, but it's very interesting. While I was skimming through it, it seems to have a lot in common with what I've written in my articles. I'll definitely read it in its entirety. But the author, who developed the plan, doesn't write it either; here's what he said:
              A systematic analysis of the events reveals that the Gorbachev-Yakovlev-Medvedev group, including any associates, was incapable of carrying out the task. This is only possible if we assume that Gorbachev's group was controlled from the outside and made extensive use of data and prefabs, the creation of which must have involved many thousands of people. In other words, everything that was accomplished was the result of an information war waged by the United States. The Gorbachevites, in turn, played the role of cogs in the cog.


              And regarding the author's criticism of textbooks on Scientific Communism, I think these textbooks should have referenced specific articles in the Constitution and the Electoral Law—those articles that implement the principles that make socialism a reality. When I wrote my articles, I had to figure this out myself, and then trace how Gorbachev rewrote these articles in his laws, destroying socialism. If this had been written in the textbooks, then everyone who studied Scientific Communism would have immediately seen where Gorbachev was leading the country.
            3. +2
              27 December 2025 19: 11
              Yes, I came across the author's lines
              This is the senseless "creativity" of ideologists, like a textbook on "scientific communism," clichés, cliches, and the reiteration of the same truths, as well as the super-centralization of the economy, planning based on what has already been achieved, the rigidity of plans, paperwork, the degeneration of the Party and Komsomol leadership, the slowdown in development, and the large volume of unproductive expenditures. All of this required the elimination of distortions and the implementation of rational reforms.

              Now I think there are a number of points with which I disagree.
              Somehow
              This is the senseless “creativity” of ideologists, like a textbook on “scientific communism.”

              Above I wrote what was missing there, I neglected the rest.
              supercentralization of the economy, planning from what has been achieved, ossification of plans

              I don't agree with him at all, now he'll start talking about a market economy.
              etc.
              I think there's still a lot there that I can't agree with.
              But he has a good description of how Gorbachev resolved the personnel issue that was necessary for the counterrevolution. If I had known about this author earlier, I would have referred to this point in his work.
              1. 0
                27 December 2025 19: 44
                Quote: October
                Now I think there are a number of points with which I disagree.

                Disagreeing doesn't mean knowing for sure. It might be emotion. I read Lisichkin a long time ago, but I'll say you can't read him in places. The book is written like a scientific work: first, general principles, theory, facts, their processing, and then conclusions. I'll read about it in my spare time... Are you a supporter of scientific communism? Do you think socialism is real? I like Lenin's phrase, something like, "Communism can only be built when all the knowledge accumulated by humanity is used." Well, neither Marx, Engels, nor Lenin used science—ethology—in their works. This science studies the social behavior of animals, the social reactions embedded in the limbic (unconscious behavior system) system of living beings. So, there is socially oriented behavior and, as opposed to it, individual behavior. Economics is not enough to build socialism; biological mechanisms must be taken into account. Social behavior is activated when EVERYONE is in danger and we can only save ourselves by working together. There are other cases, but I repeat—economics alone is not enough!!!
                1. +2
                  27 December 2025 21: 04
                  Disagreeing doesn't mean knowing for sure. It might just be emotion.


                  This is your interpretation of my words. Take them literally. I don't agree with him.


                  I read Lisichkin a long time ago, but I'll say that you can't read parts of it. The book is written like a scholarly work: first, general principles, theory, facts, their processing, then conclusions. I'll spend some time reading it in my spare time...


                  I have a PhD in engineering, please don't tell me how to read smart books. I'm a master of my craft. And my knowledge allows me to read many books without having to read them cover to cover. Although I might have missed some, I admit.

                  Are you a supporter of scientific communism? Do you think socialism is real?

                  Certainly.

                  So, neither Marx, Engels, nor Lenin used the science of ethology in their works. This science studies the social behavior of animals, the social reactions embedded in the limbic (unconscious behavioral system) of living beings. So, there is socially oriented behavior and, in contrast, individual behavior. Economics alone is not enough to build socialism; biological mechanisms must be taken into account. Social behavior is activated when EVERYONE is in danger and the only way to save ourselves is by working together. There are other cases, but I repeat – economics alone is not enough!


                  1) You're simplifying humanity. How do you explain the heroism of Matrosov and many others?
                  2) Marx, Engels and Lenin wrote quite a lot about this without using this term.
                  It seems to be well written here, although I don’t like the references from the 90s.
                  [https://helpiks.org/7-56500.html?ysclid=mjolgzweg8100303583]
                  3) In general, this issue has been studied in depth, for example, here are the conference materials on this issue

                  ed. Bashnikov V.M. 1975
                  The relationship between the sociological and the social in a person.

                  And there is no need to confuse people with some new-fangled foreign terms (ethology), presenting the matter as if no one had taken up this range of issues and they are the first, the only and unrepeatable.
                  Just like the USA.
                  1. 0
                    27 December 2025 21: 18
                    thanks for the answer, smile
                    Quote: October
                    You're trivializing humanity. How do you explain the heroism of Matrosov and many others?

                    Typical social behavior, like a mother protecting her child, like buffalo defending females with their offspring... Human social instincts have evolved from herd instincts, they've simply become much more complex and acquired symbolism. If lions have a more menacing roar, then humans have a more menacing roar—who has the coolest car? Three instincts motivate the activity of living beings, including humans: food, sex, and dominance. Have you seen orangutans beat their chests? Symbolizing dominance? It's the same way a person yawns and says, "I went on vacation to Mallorca, it's so boring." The communists tried to introduce symbols of dominance, but they missed the main point—a pioneer tie had to be earned!!! It was supposed to be cool! It didn't work out! In short, I want to ask you a question: what would the desire to dominate look like under socialism?
                    1. +2
                      27 December 2025 21: 21
                      It seems you didn't even have time to read the short article I linked to.
                      You don’t know enough about what Marxism said about this issue, sorry, it’s not for you to judge.
                      I think we can finish here.
                      1. 0
                        27 December 2025 21: 38
                        Quote: October
                        It seems you didn't even have time to read the short article I linked to.

                        I read the article carefully. Thirty-five years ago, I mastered Capital and the Critique of Political Economy. These sources offer no answer to the question of how to awaken the human instinct for dominance and make it serve society. There's only a paean to humanity, just like the eugenics poem about the Aryans! If you're a scientist, a PhD candidate, please delve into this and answer in your own words: how can the human instinct for dominance be made to serve society?
                      2. +1
                        29 December 2025 07: 52
                        1) If you have read, you should notice that this issue has been discussed in Marxist philosophy since the time of Feuerbach, and not
                        So, neither Marx, nor Engels, nor Lenin used science - ethology - in their works.

                        2) You should have noticed that the article talks about
                        the process of personality formation is a dialectical unity of the influence of the social environment and the activity of the personality itself

                        i.e. in a person there is both social and animal, but you prefer not to notice the social and stubbornly do it, you are drawn to
                        instinct of dominance

                        3) the specific relationship between the social and the biological was studied a lot in the USSR from the point of view of various sciences - biology, medicine, psychology, psychiatry, I gave you a link to one of these conferences above
                        ed. Bashnikov V.M. 1975
                        The relationship between the sociological and the social in a person.

                        but you still reach out to
                        a song of praise to man, exactly like the eugenics song about the Aryans

                        If you are really interested
                        How to make a person's dominance instinct serve society

                        Please refer to the above mentioned conference and others like it.

                        Excuse me, but I don't see a single ounce of objectivity in you. What I see is a stubborn desire to preserve only the animal in man, obviously with the goal of justifying the new and old bourgeoisie. It's not their fault that they have such genes; it's their fathers, mothers, grandmothers, grandfathers, and so on who are to blame, not them.

                        As for me, excuse me, I won't delve into the depths of psychiatry and will believe Matrosov, Kosmodemyanskaya, and many others that the social element prevails in humans. Naturally, whoever wants to be an animal will become one.
                        Being determines consciousness
                      3. 0
                        29 December 2025 20: 53
                        Dear Alexander Borisovich! I am touched by your attention to me, and thank you for your detailed response. I, like you, believe in Socialism and its urgent necessity for our society. However, the methods of educating the individual in the Soviet Union led to Perestroika—that's a fact. Therefore, it's too late to turn to the original source. However, not all is lost. Some places in our society still remain. elements of socialism - free education and medicine, and even those who don’t know what Socialism is consider it normal!
                        Quote: October
                        Naturally, whoever wants to be an animal will be one.

                        No offense, but please note that you sent me links to your articles, casually mentioning your academic degree... All of this oozes with the usual primate dominance, like ink on blotting paper. Excellent! Better to dominate with symbols of education and knowledge than with force and rudeness. smile
                        When I see Kosmodemyanskaya's photo, I cry, secretly, of course. She and Matrosov sacrificed themselves for the safety of their own. In biology, this is called species preservation. A herd is also a society for animals, with specific social roles. The instinct for dominance is an instinct that doesn't just tell us to run away or catch up. Here's an example: a kitten, a helpless organism that we need to pity—to realize the instinct for dominance! Instincts must be satisfied! In a society struggling for its survival, actions with social significance are rewarded with medals—symbols whose purpose is to distinguish an individual, excuse me, a person, from the gray mass; naturally, such a person dominates others. In modern society, with the help of the media, another symbol has been created: consume! Implying possess money! The concept of honor has been forgotten. Happiness has been castrated before consumption! Society has forgotten about medals; pioneer ties have failed to live up to their promise! And finally, a very difficult question arises: how, in a society that is not at war, can we preserve and highlight the value of socially useful actions? (This is necessary for the revival of socialism)!
                      4. +1
                        30 December 2025 08: 19
                        However, the methods of educating the individual in the Soviet Union led to Perestroika - this is a fact.

                        I disagree. There were hundreds of millions of people in the country, and you can't foresee everything in life. Gorbachevs and Yeltsins arise... and it happens that they end up in power. This isn't a question of upbringing, as there have always been, are, and always will be exceptions. The question is how to increase the resilience of the Soviet state even in the face of a hostile capitalist environment. Although, given such an environment, this issue probably can't be resolved with 100% certainty.

                        Society has forgotten about medals; pioneer ties have failed to live up to their promise.

                        You're wrong. Let me remind you again about Gorbachev's personnel policy, which I wrote about in my article, as did Lisichkin. These titanic efforts by Gorbachev suggest that the Pioneer ties were justified, however, as we know
                        there are lees to every wine


                        How can we preserve and highlight the value of socially useful actions in a society that does not fight?

                        Marx, Engels, and Lenin once wrote that capitalism itself will raise its own gravediggers. Because in a consumer society, there are millions of unemployed and homeless. In the US, for example, 60 million people receive food stamps. I don't think this is because life is good.
                      5. +1
                        31 December 2025 14: 41
                        Happy New Year to you!!! drinks
                        Quote: October
                        The question here is how to increase the stability of the Soviet state even in the presence of a hostile capitalist environment.

                        Wonderful! If you're talking about ideological attitudes, I have something to say about that! Have you ever noticed how little children watch commercials? It's like a colorful fairy tale to them, where everything is gray and everyone is tired, and then suddenly Mr. Muscle appears and the world is transformed!!! This is how consumer behavior patterns are formed almost from the cradle. Buy it and you will be happy. Because no advertising advertises a product; all advertising advertises a lifestyle and the product's place within that lifestyle. To change this, it's enough to ban advertising as it currently exists. Advertising should be purely informational, for example, about a car: power, speed, number of options... A society with such advertising restrictions will no longer be brainwashed into consumption. The universal passion for consumption is already an ideology. Isn't it?

                        Quote: October
                        Marx, Engels, and Lenin once wrote that capitalism itself will raise its own gravediggers. Because in a consumer society, there are millions of unemployed and homeless. In the US, for example, 60 million people receive food stamps.

                        Capitalism hasn't yet cultivated its own gravediggers. The 60 million homeless unemployed in the United States won't produce capitalist gravediggers either, especially since most of them, if offered work, would refuse precisely because they want a better life. Is their climate different? Or do they have enough welfare? winked And the socialism that existed in the USSR was nothing other than the unity of society in the face of a common threat of destruction.
                        Pioneer ties went from being a symbol of children's political consciousness to school paraphernalia, because everyone wore them! They should come up with some kind of edging for top students, activists, or heroic rescuers, so that it would be... difficult Earning it would have been more effective! Because jeans and Adidas sneakers were far more prestigious than a pioneer tie; they were the symbols of dominance in the late USSR! hi Happy New Year once again, best wishes!!
                      6. +1
                        2 January 2026 10: 45
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        Is their climate different?


                        If you look at the map, the USA is almost on the same line as Sochi.
                        Yes, the oceans smooth things out, but on average there is such grace there that you become envious and want to hit them with a nuclear weapon.

                        In one of the foothills in the western United States, oranges actually grow.
                      7. 0
                        2 January 2026 15: 13
                        Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
                        In one of the foothills in the western United States, oranges actually grow.

                        Wild oranges? And in L.A., I guess, bananas? Why would they even need to fight capitalism? They're doing well!
                      8. +1
                        3 January 2026 10: 32
                        Yes, it seems that these are not wild but commercial plantations.
                        Florida, that's somewhere there.
                        They are even a fairly large manufacturer, but they seem to work for the domestic market.
                      9. 0
                        3 January 2026 19: 36
                        Happy New Year to you too!
                        Have you noticed how little children watch advertisements?

                        This is how consumer behavior patterns are formed almost from the cradle.

                        And then it turns out that it is impossible to buy this fairy tale with honestly earned money....
                        And here advertising meets reality.
                        So don't make life easy.

                        of the 60 million homeless unemployed in the United States

                        There are about 20 million unemployed in the US, and 60 million are on food stamps, as I wrote. I'm not even sure that the 20 million unemployed are included in the 60 million on food stamps, because they receive unemployment benefits, at least for six months.

                        especially since if you offer them a job, most of them will refuse to work precisely because of the good life

                        Read a book, for example.

                        The Plight of Millions: Unemployment in the Capitalist World. 1983

                        And tell me, when people over 45 are thrown overboard, do they also voluntarily give up their jobs? To receive benefits for five months and then drag out a miserable existence?
                        Why do you repeat the myths of bourgeois propaganda?

                        And the socialism that existed in the USSR was nothing other than the unity of society in the face of a common threat of destruction.

                        Sorry, you are writing some, to put it mildly, "strange" things.
                        Socialism in the USSR was built to allow people to live peacefully and confidently looking to the future.

                        Pioneer ties went from being a symbol of children's political consciousness to school paraphernalia, because everyone wore them! If they'd come up with some kind of edging for top students, activists, or heroic rescuers, making it difficult to earn, it would have been more effective!


                        I remember they told us they didn't want organizations like the Pioneers, the Komsomol, and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union to become elite organizations. So they accepted practically everyone except the most obviously negative figures. And there's a certain logic to that.
                        The traitors who brought down the USSR clearly stood out by Soviet standards. For example, Gorbachev earned a labor award even before entering Moscow State University—at least that's what his official biography says. Turning the CPSU into an elite organization certainly wouldn't have saved us from such a "non-comrade." Instead, it created its own problems with elitism. Therefore, this issue must be resolved differently, but I can't say how yet.

                        Let me just remind you that I wrote about socialism and communism here before: that it's an ENGINEERING approach to the issue. It's the CONSCIOUS CONSTRUCTION OF A JUST human society. For this reason, we can look here for solutions to the problems we can pose now, analyzing the results of building socialism in the USSR.


                        Because jeans and Adidas sneakers were far more prestigious than a pioneer tie; they were the symbols of dominance in the late USSR!


                        Don't generalize. I didn't wear jeans or sneakers back then, and I didn't even think about them.
                      10. 0
                        4 January 2026 07: 09
                        Quote: October
                        Therefore, this issue must be resolved differently, I will not say how yet.

                        Intrigued!!! What is needed to reveal the secret?
                      11. 0
                        5 January 2026 15: 29
                        Intrigued!!! What is needed to reveal the secret?

                        Do not know winked
                        This question is premature for now.
                        Let's wait until the dictatorship of the proletariat.
                        And let's hope that the wait won't be long.
                      12. 0
                        5 January 2026 17: 33
                        Quote: October
                        This question is premature for now.
                        Let's wait until the dictatorship of the proletariat.
                        And let's hope that the wait won't be long.

                        Of course, not for long, eternity is ahead, maybe some kind of proletariat will appear wassat smile
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  10. +4
    24 December 2025 20: 22
    Some experts still believe that if the "500 Days" program had been fully implemented, the collapse of the USSR would not have occurred and the country could well have achieved an economy on the level of Switzerland.

    Anyone who read it would never have said such a thing. Sure, we actually took the worst possible path, but 500 days... would have led to almost the same thing.
  11. +3
    24 December 2025 20: 24
    This bastard still talks in all his interviews about what a wonderful program it was! wink
    1. +3
      24 December 2025 20: 38
      Quote: Schneeberg
      This bastard still talks in all his interviews about what a wonderful program it was!
      but he doesn't say who it's wonderful for!
      If a wolf eats a goat, it's a very sad story for the goat, but for the wolf, everything is just great.
  12. +5
    24 December 2025 20: 44
    In general, the 500 Days program contained the following proposals:
    privatization of state property

    That's it, you don't need to read the rest of the program. Because:
    - the "privatizers" were interested in fuel and energy enterprises, the extraction of non-ferrous and precious metals, and any other raw materials that could be exported for foreign currency, i.e., that could generate income in the hands of the state;
    - the remaining "privatizers", having received the state enterprise in exchange for a couple of dump trucks of vouchers bought from the population for a bottle of vodka, worked according to the same scheme: workers and engineering personnel were fired without severance pay, equipment was cut and sold for scrap metal, premises were sold/rented out;
    - One can speak fondly of the unprecedented mass privatization of housing by people, but given the level of law and order and legal literacy at that time, many people joined the ranks of the homeless.
  13. +4
    24 December 2025 20: 52
    The working group for the creation of the program was formed on the initiative and joint decision Mikhail Gorbachev and Boris Yeltsin.

    That's all you need to know about this program.

    Everything else is a consequence. As a result of this program, the mighty USSR went into disarray. An irreversible reaction began. The main element of the "500 Days" was the redistribution of economic power from the union center to the republics. Thus began a parade of sovereignties. A power struggle began between Yeltsin and Gorbachev, which ended with the Belovezhskaya Pushcha Agreement. Yeltsin defeated not only Gorbachev, but also defeated (killed) the USSR.
  14. +7
    24 December 2025 21: 19
    The first photo looks like a death list.
    1. -5
      24 December 2025 22: 37
      Quote: Million
      The first photo looks like a death list.
      The wall they're leaning against hasn't been laid yet. Would you like that? Here's a trowel in your hand and a drum around your neck. You'll have to take care of the bricks and mortar yourself.
  15. +2
    24 December 2025 21: 26
    We could have easily remained in a planned economy. Just don't overextend ourselves in competition with the West, cut back on pretentious, economically pointless programs like Buran-Energia, withdraw from Afghanistan (Gorbach is right about that), and it wouldn't hurt to downsize the Army and the military-industrial complex, but wisely. wink

    We would have made it anyway, but Chernobyl cut us off, IMHO. The 1986 budget is still closed. bully
    1. -2
      24 December 2025 22: 48
      Quote: Arzt
      We would have made it anyway, but Chernobyl cut us off, IMHO. The 1986 budget is still closed.
      So what's the point of a great power that can be destroyed by a single reactor accident? Japan, far less great, survived Fukushima, even though there was a massive earthquake and a tsunami that swept away a significant portion of the coastline.
      1. -1
        2 January 2026 10: 43
        Quote: Nagan
        resisted

        They didn't even fix it properly; it's still dumping into the ocean...
    2. +2
      24 December 2025 22: 56
      Quote: Arzt
      It would have been easy to remain in a planned economy.

      But it would have been possible to introduce an element of competition into the planned economy. What's wrong with that? Create a hybrid economy without changing the socialist system. Socialism, above all, is the fair distribution of the end results of labor. Economies, however, can take many forms. It would also be worthwhile to expand the scope of private property. So that private property isn't limited to a small garden plot with a house and a car. For example, collective farmers could be allowed to set up their own private farm. Like under the New Economic Policy (NEP).
      1. +1
        25 December 2025 00: 00
        Quote: Stas157
        For example, collective farmers could be allowed to set up their own private farm, as they did under the New Economic Policy (NEP).

        Yeah, and I wouldn't give him a tractor, but he can't afford to buy one. feel , they allowed everyone to become farmers in 1992 - but those farmers quickly ran out.
        And if the farmer had been smart, he would have lured the best workers from the collective farm and that would be it.
    3. -3
      25 December 2025 00: 31
      Don't get too carried away in competition with the West, cut back on pretentious, economically senseless programs like Buran-Energia

      This could not be done; the entire policy of the Union was built on this - to show that we are no worse than the West.
  16. 0
    24 December 2025 22: 09
    Yes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
  17. +4
    24 December 2025 22: 46
    Ryzhkov's program might have stabilized the USSR's economy somewhat, but it couldn't have saved it from collapse! Strong centrifugal political trends and republics striving for independence had already begun to emerge! As a result, all the ties of the unified USSR economy were visibly fraying! A similar resolution to China's Tian Yan Square decision would have saved the USSR, but Gorbachev's corrupt clique was in power at the time! The USSR was doomed! The equivalent of the 500-day program was implemented in 1992! Everyone now knows what it led to!
  18. +3
    24 December 2025 23: 26
    June 1989, the Orange Revolution in China. Lovers of democracy, human rights, and European values ​​take to the Chinese Maidan—Tiananmen Square. China's leadership finds the strength and resolve to crush the liberals with tank treads. Thirty-six years have passed, and China, the world's largest economy, has showered the world with its goods.
    1991, August. Lovers of democracy, human rights, and European values ​​took to the Russian Maidan. The Soviet leadership, cowardly, tucked its tails between its legs, ceded the country to the liberals, who, having destroyed the Soviet Union, began to build a beautiful Russia of the future, plunging the country into chaos and banditry. Thirty-four years have passed, and where is the USSR today? Russia is a pitiful shadow of the great Union. The Union was the third-largest country in the world in terms of population, after China and India. Where Russia is today is a rhetorical question. Russia was half a step away from disintegrating into 50 young democracies. It was the arrival of Putin's team that saved Russia from collapse.
    Ukraine is needless to say: a series of democratic Maidan protests and aspirations to join NATO and the EU led to the creation of a nationalist-fascist concentration camp named after Bandera. The Ukrainian leadership repeatedly caved to the crowd of paid lumpen proletariat, fearing the wrath of the leaders of "civilized" countries.

    As for the 500-day program and the question posed in the title, it's safe to say: "Hi xy@," in any case. China also had a "500-day program"—Mao's Great Leap Forward—which led to devastation. Afterward, the Chinese leadership rolled up its sleeves and simply began to work, long and hard, without promising quick results.

    Today, looking back on the past years, we can answer the question: who was right: China, which wound the liberals on the treads of tanks, or the Soviet Union, which surrendered the country to the liberals.
  19. -3
    24 December 2025 23: 40
    The historical program cannot be deceived. And we haven't even reached the threshold of capitalism yet.
  20. 0
    25 December 2025 00: 00
    A BUNCH OF SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  21. 0
    25 December 2025 00: 40
    The very phrase "market economy" makes me sick!!!
    1. -1
      2 January 2026 10: 41
      You can have a laugh and ask to become a refugee in the DPRK, maybe it will work out?
  22. 0
    25 December 2025 02: 58
    It doesn't matter what program was implemented. Any stupidity, any oversight, any miscalculation pales in comparison to the theft and leakage of resources abroad, the collapse of production, and the deliberate destruction of entrepreneurship in the 90s at the hands of criminals.
    .
    If the country were led by a national government, and not by cosmopolitan globalists... An example is China, where it is not just a national government, but a nationalist government of the Han people that rules.
  23. 0
    25 December 2025 07: 55
    The 500-day program aimed to restore capitalism. Everything else is just demagoguery.

    This program was not accepted, which indicates that there were still healthy forces in society that could resist the counter-revolution.
    However, despite the rejection of this program, no additional measures were taken to protect the socialist fatherland, which should have included demands for the resignation of Gorbychev and Yeltsin, as the initiators of the development of this program.

    And this inconsistency led to the counter-revolution continuing to develop further - the leading role of the CPSU was excluded from the constitution, then the State Emergency Committee was established, with the help of which the CPSU was simply banned.

    Thus, the main opponent of the restoration of capitalism, which was the primary cells of the CPSU, was finished off.
  24. -1
    25 December 2025 08: 25
    China didn't break anything. It's still under communist rule, they turned the economy around, and they don't remember thieves as heroes.
  25. +1
    25 December 2025 12: 48
    Behind each game at that time stood a certain group of people, perhaps even the same people (they placed bets on all fields at once, the win would cover everything), everything was done to ensure that the people could not win in any way.
  26. -1
    25 December 2025 18: 32
    How to "shoe the country and the population" in 500 days
  27. -1
    25 December 2025 22: 50
    In Russia, two sowing years last 670 days. It's impossible to harvest two crops in 500 days to ensure economic growth; it's not the equator. Who taught these degenerates? African Americans?
  28. -1
    26 December 2025 06: 20
    In China, all reforms were carried out under the leadership of the CPC. Their success is obvious. In our country, the demagogue Gorbachev became the head of the CPSU. As a result, the party degenerated, and real power fell into the hands of representatives of the so-called Washington Consensus, who were skilled at writing programs but incapable of actually implementing anything. They lacked a qualified administrative apparatus on the ground. In 1979, when Chinese liberals attempted a "color revolution," the CPC decisively held on to power. In our country, everything fell apart after the State Emergency Committee.
  29. -1
    26 December 2025 14: 59
    This is all nonsense! During Stalin's assassination and the Khrushchev junta's seizure of power, the decision was made to restore capitalism and gradually cede ground to the West (convergence). The "economic crisis of the late 80s" was largely man-made.
    The degenerate Communist and Komsomol bigwigs simply wanted to seize the sweetest chunks of the Russian economy, which is exactly what they did. And there's no need to fool people with all this "500 days" nonsense! Since the early 70s, the process has become irreversible. The ground was gradually being prepared for the country's final destruction, with the active participation of the West. The tentacles of traitorous parasites and their accomplices had penetrated too deeply into our society, and no State Emergency Committee could cope with them. The Marked One was installed solely as a temporary figure, expected to officially hand over everything. And there is evidence that he was well-prepared for this by the West.
  30. -2
    27 December 2025 08: 17
    Quote: Max1995
    Job?

    It's more of a hobby - figuring out cypsota! I've already found three.
  31. 0
    2 January 2026 10: 40
    and the country could well have achieved an economy on the level of Switzerland.

    So I received it.

    Show me Swiss factories, plants, and so on.
    Well, in the 90s, all this happened.
  32. 0
    11 January 2026 01: 16
    Comedians (Zhvanetsky, I think) used to joke back then: "What do you choose: 500 days or 900 days (an analogy with the Siege of Leningrad)?" The survivors remember the end result.