A specialized sub-caliber projectile for use against light vehicles has been patented in Russia.

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A specialized sub-caliber projectile for use against light vehicles has been patented in Russia.

Recently, apparently in connection with the special military operation in Ukraine, domestic specialists have been patenting some rather interesting defense inventions. One of them is a fin-stabilized armor-piercing subcaliber projectile for tank cannons adapted for the effective destruction of light military equipment.

Instead of an introduction


It's no secret that armor-piercing discarding sabot (APFSDS) rounds used in tank ammunition have a rather powerful after-action effect. When such rounds penetrate armor, a large number of high-velocity fragments fly into the after-action space, injuring the crew, damaging the tank's internal equipment, and potentially igniting the fuel and causing a fire or detonation of the ammunition contents.



However, they can only be most effective against the relatively thick armor of tanks. This often doesn't work against the thin armor of light vehicles like infantry fighting vehicles or armored personnel carriers, as the projectile's core doesn't have time to sustain significant damage and generate a massive fragmentation field (most of the fragments are secondary fragments, from the armor). As a result, the projectile often simply penetrates the vehicle, causing minimal damage (compared to the damage a projectile would inflict on a tank).


This, in fact, is what prompted the gentlemen from the Boris Yeltsin Ural Federal University to develop a subcaliber projectile with enhanced behind-the-barrier effect. And, to forestall any questions about whether the information might be classified, we'll add: the patent for the projectile is published in an open database, so it's not classified in any way. A link to it will be provided at the end of this article.

Fluoroplastic instead of explosives


So, what do the inventors propose?

They plan to increase the effectiveness of the projectile beyond the barrier by increasing fragmentation and providing an additional incendiary effect. However, the proposed design does not use explosives, as found in chambered armor-piercing shells, which have long since become obsolete, due to the dangers of handling them.

Instead of explosives, the use of mixtures of fluoroplastic and metal in powder form is proposed. At a certain pressure, these "cocktails" produce an explosive release of energy and an exothermic reaction with the release of heat. For example, a fluoroplastic/titanium mixture reacts effectively at pressures above 28 GPa, while a fluoroplastic/aluminum mixture reacts effectively at 21 GPa. The graph below clearly illustrates this.


Achieving the reaction coefficient (unit) at different pressures for mixtures of fluoroplastic with aluminum and titanium)

The mixture in the projectile doesn't require any additional "detonators" to increase the pressure to the required levels—a high-speed impact with the armor is sufficient. To achieve this, one could use the design of existing projectiles (like Mango) and insert the mixture in place of the armor-piercing core. As an example, the projectile proposed by the authors is shown below.

Essentially, it consists of a metal body containing a "reaction core" made of a fluoroplastic-aluminum mixture. An armor-piercing tip made of a heavy tungsten-based alloy (uranium is also possible) is screwed into the nose, and on top of that is a ballistic tip made of a light alloy.


1 - metal body, 2 - driving device, 3 - polymer obturating belt, 4 - obturator of the driving device, 5 - stabilizer, 6 - tracer, 7 - reaction core, 8 - armor-piercing tip made of heavy alloy, 9 - ballistic tip.

The principle of operation of the projectile is quite simple.

Upon exiting the barrel, the projectile's active portion (the "arrow" itself with its fins) separates from the leading element. Upon impact with armor, the ballistic tip collapses, and the armor-piercing tip, made of a heavy alloy, engages, penetrating most of the armor. Due to the high impact velocity with the armor barrier, the required pressure is generated within the fluoroplastic and aluminum mixture.

Quote from the patent:

As a result of compression of the core made of reactive material during a high-speed impact, conditions for thermal-oxidative destruction and radial expansion of the reactive material are simultaneously created, transmitting the compression pressure to the inner walls of the housing.

Further progression of the compression process leads to the exothermic decomposition of the reaction material with a large release of energy, fragmentation of the metal body of the projectile, an increase in the cavity and the release of high-speed remains of the projectile and a cloud of fragments into the fighting compartment of lightly armored vehicles with a large angle of dispersion.

Essentially, the shell's active portion is torn to shreds by internal pressure upon penetration, producing a massive amount of fragmentation from both the shell and the armor. This is accompanied by a significant incendiary effect inside the combat vehicle, which can lead to combustion of fuel and technical fluids, and in some cases, ignition and detonation of the ammunition.

Conclusions


The invention is certainly interesting. Essentially, it's a domestic version of Western PELE (Penetrator with Enhanced Lateral Effect) projectiles, which are effective against light armored vehicles. Moreover, it's feasible to establish production even with existing facilities. But, as the saying goes, "It's possible, but why bother?"

And it's not that, as the fashionable saying goes, "tanks don't fight tanks and other vehicles anymore"—of course, they don't fight much now, but in future conflicts they very well could. The issue here lies in a slightly different realm—a practical one.

Firstly, these shells are designed exclusively for destroying light vehicles and, perhaps, not yet very substantial fortifications. They are useless against tanks—they won't penetrate them. This means that the ammunition is essentially highly specialized, and its use poses certain challenges in terms of expanding the ammunition loadout.

Secondly, of course, sub-caliber projectiles, including those discussed in this article, are much easier to hit due to their high muzzle velocity, requiring minimal adjustments when firing. However, for engaging light armored vehicles, a standard high-explosive fragmentation projectile is quite suitable, and can inflict far more damage.

So the thing is undoubtedly interesting, but it’s unlikely that they will ever produce it here.

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  1. +6
    24 December 2025 03: 21
    But, as they say, “it’s possible, but why?”

    Yes, below is the answer:
    This, in fact, is what prompted the gentlemen from the Boris Yeltsin Ural Federal University to develop a subcaliber projectile with increased barrier-breaking effect.

    Here you have both "gentlemen" and them. EBN...
    In fact, they're patenting every little thing these days, it's almost crazy...
    1. +3
      24 December 2025 06: 13
      It was smooth on paper ...
      As far as I understand, there haven't been any tests. So for now, this is just an idea with no evidence.
      And on a computer you can model anything.
      1. +2
        24 December 2025 11: 56
        This isn't an unproven technology; Rheinmetall has already begun producing an equivalent. Denmark has purchased conversion kits for all its existing kinetic energy tank ammunition to this new standard.
    2. +7
      24 December 2025 10: 46
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      But, as they say, “it’s possible, but why?”
      This photo shows a Dushman BRDM, which our forces hit with a T-62 tank gun. I assume the shell was a high-explosive fragmentation round.
      1. -6
        24 December 2025 10: 53
        Quote: Bad_gr
        In the photo is a Dushman BRDM, which was hit by our forces with a T-62 tank cannon.

        Hmm, the spirits had "messes"? I think the caravans didn't have anything but pickup trucks...
        1. + 11
          24 December 2025 11: 00
          The Dukhs also had our T-34s. Didn't you know? The Afghan army and its rebel component (the Dukhs, that is) were armed primarily with Soviet weapons.
          1. -6
            24 December 2025 11: 11
            Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
            The spirits and our T-34s had them. You didn't know?


            Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
            The Afghan army and its rebel part (that is, the spirits) were armed primarily with Soviet weapons.
            What nonsense about the mujahideen as a "rebel element of the Afghan army." Before our troops withdrew, there were the Dukhs, and the Sarboz, fighting against the Dukhs. And the Dukhs mostly had Chinese or Western weapons. What happened after the withdrawal is no longer our Army's concern.
            1. +7
              24 December 2025 14: 31
              A little less arrogance might be enough for discussion. Initially, it was the Afghan army that almost split in two. The rebel units of the Afghan army formed the core of the future spirits.
              1. -2
                24 December 2025 15: 49
                Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                A little less pride

                Honour, what pride?
                Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                maybe it will be suitable for discussion.
                You are writing nonsense, what kind of discussion can there be?

                Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                At first, it was the Afghan army that was almost split in two.
                This is complete nonsense. If it had been almost in half, the rebellion wouldn't have been suppressed within a week, but it was suppressed by our own forces. Elementary logic.
                Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                The basis of the future spirits was formed by the rebellious units of the Afghan army.
                More nonsense. If that were the case, then most of the DRA's leaders would have been DRA officers, but that's not the case. And there would be no need for DRA training camps in Pakistan.
                Well, the stupidity about the use of armored vehicles by the dushmans against our Army in Afghanistan remains stupidity.
                1. +3
                  24 December 2025 15: 53
                  What other logic is there? Please be so kind as to thoroughly familiarize yourself with the chronicle of the Afghan events. Entire regiments, if not entire divisions, rebelled and rose up against the Soviet Army and the new government.
                  And if your friend didn't give you descriptions of tank battles back then, that doesn't mean they didn't happen. There were, indeed, tank duels. There was even a vivid description of a duel between our T-62 and an Afghan T-34.
                  And they freely eavesdropped on our radio communications precisely because the backbone of the resistance at that time was made up of officers and employees who had studied in the USSR.
                  1. -2
                    24 December 2025 16: 19
                    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                    What other logic?
                    Elementary.

                    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                    There, entire regiments rebelled and spoke out against the SA and the new government, if not divisions.

                    The only mention of any kind of equipment was our troops suppressing a mutiny in the 4th Artillery Regiment. That's all. The rest were deserters with rifles.
                    No need for fairy tales...

                    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                    Even the duel between our T-62 and the Afghan T-34 was colorfully described.
                    Is this the same fairy tale as your "if not divisions"?

                    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                    And they freely eavesdropped on our radio communications precisely because the backbone of the resistance at that time was made up of officers and employees who had studied in the USSR.
                    Where did you get this nonsense? It's common knowledge that the DRA army was leaking like a sieve. And to maintain secrecy and surprise, they didn't share our troops' plans with the Afghans. And therefore, wiretapping as a source is pure nonsense...
                    1. +6
                      24 December 2025 16: 42
                      You have zero knowledge about the events in Afghanistan, but a whole bucket of arrogance.
                      November 1980, XNUMX
                      January 9-11, 1980 - Soviet troops conducted an operation to suppress a mutiny by the 4th Artillery Regiment of the DRA Armed Forces near the village of Nahrin in Baghlan Province. The mutiny was suppressed as a result of the operation.

                      January 10-11, 1980 – Soviet troops conducted an operation to suppress a mutiny by artillery units of the 20th Division of the DRA Armed Forces in Kabul. The mutiny was suppressed as a result of the operation.

                      February 29 – March 12, 1980 – A joint operation by Soviet troops and units of the DRA Armed Forces in Kunar Province against mujahideen units under the command of field commander Asil Khan and the 30th Mountain Infantry Regiment of the Afghan Army, which had defected to their side. On February 29, 1980, a fierce battle broke out near the village of Shigal, during which 37 soldiers of the 317th Guards Parachute Regiment were killed. As a result of the operation, the mujahideen and rebel soldiers were defeated, and the villages they had captured in Kunar Province came under the control of Soviet troops and Afghan army units loyal to the PDPA.

                      Even before the Soviet troops entered the country, the opposition's numbers reached 40. Uprisings against the April Revolution involved entire divisions.
                      And tank duels are described by direct witnesses and participants. They seem more believable than you.
                      1. -2
                        24 December 2025 17: 25
                        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                        You have zero knowledge about the events in Afghanistan, but a whole bucket of arrogance.

                        Your logic is poor, and your knowledge is slightly better.
                        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                        January 9-11, 1980 - Soviet troops carried out an operation to suppress the mutiny of the 4th artillery regiment...
                        January 10-11, 1980 - an operation by Soviet troops to suppress the mutiny of artillery units of the 20th Division of the Armed Forces of the DRA in the city of ...

                        This is actually ONE episode that I mentioned, actually, because the 4th regiment was part of the 20th division... That is, you made it up.

                        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                        the 30th Mountain Infantry Regiment of the Afghan Army, which went over to their side. February 29, 1980

                        Yes, a whole regiment? Or a fabulous whole regiment?
                        Some of the military personnel under the command of the commander of the 30th GPP Rauf went over to the side of the mujahideen detachments led by the field commander Asil Khan

                        A unit! Not a regiment. They joined the mujahideen, not the spirits.

                        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                        Even before the introduction of Soviet troops, the number of opposition members reached 40 thousand people.
                        I'm not just writing about logic, but because you don't have it. The opposition isn't half, almost half, of the army, as you imagine. It's a mass of who-knows-what, joined by rebels from the army. And these rebels couldn't possibly form the core of the opposition. Elementary logic. And these rebels ran across with rifles.

                        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                        Uprisings against the April Revolution occurred in entire divisions.
                        A whole division. Out of 10. Don't make things up. Everything is being verified.

                        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                        And tank duels are described by their direct witnesses and participants.
                        And if there are no links, you would have embellished them in the same way as those who brought in and described the "leading role of the Afghan army in the mujahideen movement" (there are none).
                      2. -1
                        26 December 2025 14: 37
                        Sergey Aleksandrovich
                        Can you provide at least one photo of the tanks used by the mujahideen? They could have captured BRDMs from those same "combat-ready units" of the Afghan army. But they definitely don't need tanks—they're difficult to maintain, it's unclear where to get ammunition, etc. And I don't think the "chaos" lasted long. Armored vehicles are very visible from above, and our air force quickly wiped them out. But cars—that's the best part. Try to distinguish a caravan of civilian trucks/pickup trucks from a caravan of mujahideen from above. They didn't drive around in Hummers under black flags, like ISIS**.
          2. 0
            13 February 2026 14: 38
            and then China began to supply them with its own products produced under Soviet license.
            i.e. also copies of our weapons.
        2. + 11
          24 December 2025 11: 06
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          Quote: Bad_gr
          In the photo is a Dushman BRDM, which was hit by our forces with a T-62 tank cannon.

          Hmm, the spirits had "messes"? I think the caravans didn't have anything but pickup trucks...

          This is my photo, and when I took it, they explained to me where the debris came from. There were cases where some of the regular Afghan troops defected to the mujahideen, complete with weapons, but the opposite also happened, with the local gang leader being promoted to military rank, and his men turning from bandits into defenders of the fatherland.
          1. 0
            24 December 2025 11: 20
            Quote: Bad_gr
            This is my photo, and when I took the photo, they explained to me where these fragments came from.

            Oh wow, my respects! hi
            Quote: Bad_gr
            There were cases when part of the regular Afghan troops went over to the side of the dushmans with all their weapons.
            Well, actually, part of the troops... The maximum mentioned was a detachment of up to 680 mountain regiments and two infantry companies, including riflemen. Although they fled en masse, they did so in a scattered manner.
            Well, I don’t remember a single case of fighting with spirits’ armor.
            And judging by the photo, it's possible that the spirits set fire to the RPG, and then our tank crews fired back at the abandoned vehicle...
            1. +2
              24 December 2025 11: 29
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Well, actually, part of the troops... The maximum number of mentions of a detachment is up to 680 hours.
              I meant not the entire military unit, but a part of it (from the word "partially")

              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Well, I don’t remember a single case of fighting with spirits’ armor.
              I don't know about the Dukhs, but there was a tank battle between our forces and regular Pakistani troops. It was in 1983-84. A soldier (a witness to the battle) told me about it. True, we didn't hit anything on them, nor did they hit anything on us; only the buildings in the military compound were damaged. But they did fire at each other from tanks.
              1. 0
                24 December 2025 20: 32
                You are talking to a person who has no idea about the Afghan war, nothing at all, and yet he writes that he does not recall a single case of fighting with armor from the spirits.
                1. 0
                  26 December 2025 11: 09
                  Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                  You are talking to a person who has no idea about the Afghan war, nothing at all,

                  You are a zero in the subject, because using the same sources as me, you are unable to compare the numbers or even understand that you are describing the same episode with different words.
                  But how can you understand anything from the sources if you are clearly hinting that I am pretending to be a veteran of the OKSVA.
                  Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                  and at the same time writes that he does not recall a single case of fighting with armor from the spirits.


                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  Well, I don’t remember a single case of fighting with spirits’ armor.

                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  Well, the stupidity about the use of armored vehicles by the dushmans against our Army in Afghanistan remains stupidity.


                  So where are the sources? Go ahead, expose me.
                  For now it's just chatter.
                  Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                  Even the duel between our T-62 and the Afghan T-34 was colorfully described.
            2. +1
              26 December 2025 11: 10
              Well, I don’t remember a single case of fighting with spirits’ armor.

              There was practically a civil war going on between the Afghans there, with units sometimes switching sides and simply seizing equipment. They had few specialists, but they did exist, and their motivations varied. So, tanks, armored personnel carriers, and infantry fighting vehicles were present on the mujahideen side, but they weren't used on a large scale or actively due to a lack of supplies and maintenance capabilities.
              1. -1
                26 December 2025 11: 14
                Quote: Lynnot
                There was practically a civil war between the Afghans there, there were cases of units moving back and forth and simply taking away equipment.
                Not practically, but precisely. But only on the part of the "dukhs," strictly partisan, right up until the very arrival of the OKSVA. And even during mutinies in units, not everyone defected to the "dukhs." And they certainly didn't steal equipment.

                Quote: Lynnot
                So tanks, armored personnel carriers, and infantry fighting vehicles were encountered on the side of the mujahideen, but, in general, they were not used en masse and actively due to the lack of supplies and repair bases.

                Only in the form of empty boxes.
                1. +1
                  26 December 2025 11: 37
                  Only in the form of empty boxes.

                  It's the usual thing—running out of fuel or ammunition, especially if it broke—naturally, they abandoned it, taking what they could. At the very beginning, mutinies by some regular DRA units had to be suppressed.
                  1. -1
                    26 December 2025 17: 53
                    Quote: Lynnot
                    At the very beginning, the rebellions of some regular units of the DRA were suppressed

                    Yes, it happened, but the most that is mentioned is destroyed cars, not even armored...
                    Quote: Lynnot
                    It's the usual thing - the fuel ran out, or the battery, especially if it broke down - naturally, they abandoned it, taking off what they could.

                    Accordingly, there could be no talk of any battles with such "equipment"...
                    1. +1
                      26 December 2025 19: 25
                      Accordingly, there could be no talk of any battles with such "equipment"...

                      With the abandoned one - of course.
      2. -2
        24 December 2025 17: 31
        I believe this applies to the 30-40-50mm armor of the new generation of infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers. I'm not sure a HE shell with an instantaneous action setting will be able to penetrate it or destroy it with its high-explosive action. And with a delayed action setting, either the fuse will fail or the shell will be destroyed, as it's relatively thin-walled.
        1. 0
          24 December 2025 18: 24
          Quote: Vlad2012
          And with a delay setting, either the fuse will fail or the projectile will be destroyed, since it is relatively thin-walled.

          If we're talking about delayed-action fuses, then they're base-mounted. The armor on new European infantry fighting vehicles is fairly thin (15-30 mm), but it's multilayered with significant clearance, and these spaces accommodate auxiliary equipment, fuel, and supplies. This design is aimed at weakening the cumulative jet and preventing armor penetration. Will spaced armor protect against a direct hit from a 125 mm RFS? I don't think so.
          1. 0
            24 December 2025 19: 05
            The typical fuse for a HE shell of this caliber is a warhead with multiple settings. This is evident even in any picture of a tank shell. 30-40 mm of armor plus slope (approximately 60°), the effective thickness is up to approximately 70-80 mm. Spaced armor is precisely what saves the shell by reducing the explosive effect.
            1. 0
              26 December 2025 14: 43
              A direct hit from a 125mm, much less a 152mm, shell won't protect a light vehicle, even with "spaced armor." You apparently don't understand that there's a combined effect of fragments flying at high speed and the shock wave (high explosive effect). The fragments will turn your entire "spaced armor" into a sieve, and the shock wave will tear the structure to shreds, and what isn't torn will be bent in half or knotted. After being hit by such a high explosive shell, a light wheeled vehicle is practically impossible to repair. A tracked infantry fighting vehicle would require replacing over 50% of the vehicle. Photos available.
              1. 0
                26 December 2025 16: 47
                As far as I remember, 15mm of armor protects against the high explosive effect of 1 kilogram of TNT, provided it's tightly packed, and 20mm protects against fragments from 152mm and 155mm shells. But if you're interested, show me the penetrated front of a Bradley or CV90.
                1. -1
                  26 December 2025 18: 34
                  A shell only hits the front with direct fire. And even then, it can hit the roof, the turret, or even the lower front plate (unlikely, but possible). In any case, the vehicle will be torn apart, and everyone inside will die. I've seen Bradleys destroyed by a 125mm shell hitting the roof. And you apparently think that a high-explosive shell also makes a hole, like a sub-caliber round or a shaped-charge jet. But that's not true. The shock wave will destroy the vehicle's structure, and that will be enough. Light armored vehicles protect primarily from small arms fire and small-caliber artillery. If they were protected from large-caliber artillery, the vehicle would be too heavy. By the way, you said it right about the front. I think a tank sub-caliber round would penetrate a Bradley right in the front, pierce the fighting compartment, and possibly hit the ammunition stowage compartment or the engine. In any case, the vehicle is doomed. Well, of course, it depends on the firing range. In any case, the Bradley only has a chance of surviving a fight with a tank if the Bradley fires first. Defense won't help him much.
                  1. 0
                    27 December 2025 15: 10
                    I believe that a blast wave in a loosely fitted environment (when crushing action is eliminated) follows the path of least resistance. And the world is full of lightly armored vehicles that are protected from a 6-8 kg HE shell, which is significantly more than what a high-explosive fragmentation shell can offer.
                    The armor-piercing power of 152mm fragments is roughly equivalent to that of a heavy machine gun bullet. A HE shell will either make a hole (pierce the armor) when set to delayed action, or it won't, and then the shell may not explode at all due to a damaged fuse. When set to fragmentation action, it will pierce the armor and either penetrate it or fail to penetrate, depending on the armor thickness.
                    Tank armor of 15-20mm protects against 152mm fragments, so the turret roof and engine compartment of tanks are approximately this thick. A mesh or cutting screen protects the sides of our BTR-BMPs from penetration by the high-explosive effect of an RPG-7 grenade.
                    1. +1
                      29 December 2025 12: 07
                      You don't seem to understand what a high explosive effect is, and how it differs from cumulative and fragmentation effects. The explosion creates a supersonic shock wave that crushes everything in its path, regardless of your "resistance." The effect of a shock wave:
                      - crushes and destroys sheets and parts, breaks their connections
                      - deforms, crushes and bends what it cannot destroy
                      - throws back anything that falls within the shockwave's range
                      When hitting a light armored vehicle, large and medium caliber HE shells:
                      1. They break armor plates, punch holes in them, and cause cracks.
                      2. Crumple the sheets that were not destroyed
                      3. They destroy the structure and break the connections of the parts.
                      4. They tear wires, pipelines, mechanical traction and cables
                      5. Tear off fixed equipment and parts
                      You're also forgetting that there are people inside the armored vehicle—the crew, and possibly troops. A shock wave penetrating the vehicle, while not killing them, will severely concuss them. And torn-off parts can injure or kill them. If a fuel line, fuel tank, or engine is damaged, the vehicle could catch fire.
                      So, after a direct hit from such a high-explosive shell, the car will not go anywhere, and those who were driving it will become, at a minimum, “cargo 300”, or even “200”.
                      Regarding the notorious "mine protection," no light armored vehicle can withstand an anti-side mine with a penetrator core. If the vehicle explodes under the floor, the V-shaped underbody, additional armor plates, and upper seat suspension with shock absorption may protect the occupants, but they don't guarantee the absence of concussion. If the mine explodes under the track, it will be torn apart. The mine explosion can tear off a roller or a wheel. In any case, the vehicle will be damaged. Everything depends on what it hits the mine with and how much explosive the mine contains. In Afghanistan, they planted 152mm shells, the explosion of which tore off tank turrets.
                    2. 0
                      29 December 2025 12: 15
                      Sorry, but you don't understand how nets and gratings work. Drones are very common these days. If a drone hits a net, it's damaged and crashes. If it explodes, the cumulative jet will most likely miss the hull or dissipate before reaching the armor.
                      The grates can damage the grenade, destroy its fuse, and cause a premature detonation. The grenade can simply get stuck between the grate plates and fail to detonate. What does high explosive have to do with this?
                      1. -2
                        29 December 2025 12: 20
                        Quote: futurohunter
                        Sorry, but you don't understand how nets and gratings work. Drones are very common these days. If a drone hits a net, it's damaged and crashes. If it explodes, the cumulative jet will most likely miss the hull or dissipate before reaching the armor.
                        The grates can damage the grenade, destroy its fuse, and cause a premature detonation. The grenade can simply get stuck between the grate plates and fail to detonate. What does high explosive have to do with this?

                        It is especially correct to use pins to destroy the copper funnel of the cumulative
                      2. +1
                        29 December 2025 12: 23
                        Sorry, but that's pure science fiction. What kind of spikes are you talking about? All sorts of "hedgehogs" are used to destroy drones. These days, RPG grenades are usually delivered by FPV drones and are extremely rare from the RPGs themselves.
                      3. -1
                        29 December 2025 12: 25
                        Quote: futurohunter
                        Sorry, but that's pure science fiction. What kind of spikes are you talking about? All sorts of "hedgehogs" are used to destroy drones. These days, RPG grenades are usually delivered by FPV drones and are extremely rare from the RPGs themselves.

                        Excuse me, but what drones are you talking about... the drones themselves are not dangerous, the cumulative grenades on them are dangerous, which are destroyed by the pins.
                      4. +1
                        29 December 2025 12: 33
                        I'm tired of trying to enlighten you. I'll give you my final answer to this non-science fiction. A drone, as an aircraft, has an extremely lightweight, and therefore fragile, design. Even so, FPV drones fly at speeds of up to 200 km/h. When such a device hits an obstacle, it at least crashes, but more often its propellers are destroyed, the frame is broken, the electronics are damaged, and so on—it crashes again. Even if the grenade attached to the drone were to explode at that moment, its cumulative jet would not hit anything. The "RPG grenade" itself has a fairly robust casing that won't crumple even when it hits tank armor, much less any "spikes." Why doesn't the casing crumple? The cumulative jet must form at a strictly defined distance from the armor, which is ensured by the grenade's robust tip. Research the material before writing absurd thoughts.
        2. 0
          13 February 2026 14: 42
          What's stopping you from putting different shells into the belt?
          We basically don't have 30mm guns in our army that can switch between ammunition types.
          But no one's stopping you from putting together a mixed belt. For example, one high-explosive fragmentation round, then armor-piercing rounds, and then a special round against light armor. Just as an example.
    3. 0
      24 December 2025 11: 18
      In fact, they're patenting every little thing these days, it's almost crazy...

      The idea may be interesting, but how possible is its practical implementation...
      1. +1
        24 December 2025 11: 51
        Quote: Lynnot
        The idea may be interesting.

        As rightly noted in the comments below, this highly specialized, and essentially useless, projectile will take up space in an already limited supply of weapons, replacing full-fledged ones. Even HEAT shells are more versatile...
        1. +1
          26 December 2025 10: 49
          ...a highly specialized, but in fact useless, projectile will take the place...

          That's exactly what I'm getting at: such a highly specialized munition isn't really needed. The method of activating explosives, creating an additional destructive effect without a separate fuse, might find some application somewhere.
    4. 0
      24 December 2025 20: 07
      What for?
      The article, in general, correctly describes the only "why".
      The BPK is easier to hit due to its high velocity. Even the use of a heavy bomb isn't all that important.
      This means that you can shoot accurately in emergency mode if the fire control system is not fully functional.
      But..., as has been rightly said, narrow specialization.... request
      I don't know exactly what Rheinmetall was planning there, but it looks like you can have your cake and eat it too.
      That is, keep the core, and stuff the "tail" of the projectile with this same mixture of fluoroplastic and aluminum or something else like that.
      In case of penetration of powerful armor protection, the core will work, and in case of light armor, the "tail" will work.
      Something like that. Yes
      1. -1
        13 February 2026 14: 45
        Quote: Alekseev
        In case of penetration of powerful armor protection it will work

        I wonder, if someone ordered a spinner, would you also make a universal one? With hooks for pike on one end and perch on the other?
  2. +6
    24 December 2025 04: 10
    In the form factor of a caliber projectile (not a sub-caliber one) it would have turned out no worse.
    1. +9
      24 December 2025 07: 11
      Against light armored vehicles and tank-caliber HE weapons, it's more than enough
      1. +1
        24 December 2025 10: 39
        Quote: novel xnumx
        Against light armored vehicles and tank-caliber HE weapons, it's more than enough

        I thought about that too. After all, a HE shell can essentially penetrate 30-40mm of armor without any problem, and its after-fire effect would simply destroy an APC, BMP, or whatever else it's in its path.
  3. +6
    24 December 2025 04: 31
    You're strange... This is a completely safe charge. It will save the crew's lives if the projectile is hit by an enemy. And, if I understand correctly, it has a flat trajectory, like a regular APFSDS...
    And with an unlimited shelf life, unlike the OFS.
    1. +1
      24 December 2025 04: 51
      Quote: acetophenon
      This is a completely safe charge that will save the crew's lives if the projectile is hit by an enemy.
      A simple crowbar would be even more effective in preserving lives. However, the main problem isn't the detonation of explosive shells, but the ignition of propellant charges.
      Quote: acetophenon
      And with an unlimited shelf life, unlike the OFS.
      Once again, the main problem lies with the propellant charges. They degrade the fastest.
    2. +4
      24 December 2025 07: 13
      ... This is a completely safe charge.

      And just as useless
    3. + 12
      24 December 2025 08: 38
      In reality, official shells last for decades. For example, we've fired some that lasted for 30 years and nothing happened. The charges are the most dangerous when they catch fire, but the shells themselves can simply shatter even if the one next to them explodes. I tried detonating 152mm shells by lining up five of them side by side (not in a pyramid) and placing a secondary charge on the middle one, but only one exploded, the others scattered, and some even shattered. Furthermore, sub-caliber shells are much more expensive and apparently more difficult to produce. And really, why would a tank fire such a shell at light armored vehicles? I could understand a similar sub-caliber shell for a 30mm cannon.
      1. +1
        24 December 2025 08: 52
        Quote: Vladimir 290
        I would also understand a similar sub-caliber projectile for a 30mm cannon.

        Yes, the barrier there will be quite high-quality, and almost all the energy will go into breaking through and destroying it.
      2. 0
        24 December 2025 08: 56
        Quote: Vladimir 290
        I would also understand a similar sub-caliber projectile for a 30mm cannon.

        What's the point? There won't be any explosive there. A regular armor-piercing round is enough for lightly armored vehicles. But with a uranium core, it's a serious thing; those in that caliber can even penetrate a tank.
    4. 0
      24 December 2025 19: 08
      Excuse me, but how safe is this projectile? It's a reaction between fluoroplastic and titanium, and as far as I understand, it's some kind of toxicity extravaganza. I'm surprised someone came up with something like that. It won't explode, but it will be a highly toxic and corrosive shot.
      1. 0
        24 December 2025 20: 02
        Quote from alexoff
        There is a reaction of fluoroplastic and titanium for throwing,

        What does throwing have to do with it? A mixture of fluoroplastic and aluminum or titanium is needed to create an incendiary effect after penetrating the armor. An alternative is a depleted uranium heart.
        1. -1
          24 December 2025 22: 36
          Something's got me thinking they used this instead of propellant. It turns out to be some kind of semi-chemical, semi-incendiary projectile.
          It's strange that they weren't happy with the thermite; I'm hearing about such a fluoroplastic system for the first time.
  4. 0
    24 December 2025 04: 33
    We take a tungsten/uranium scrap, pardon the BOPS, drill out its core, and fill the resulting hole with flashbang grenade mixture. You could put a "Ministry of Health recommends this, safe for health" sign on the box containing these rounds. 😁
    1. 0
      24 December 2025 20: 04
      Quote: Pavel20
      We take a tungsten/uranium scrap, pardon the BOPS, drill out its core and fill the resulting hole with a mixture for flash-bang grenades.

      There's no need to add anything to the uranium core. After penetrating the armor, the uranium ignites (it takes 150-170 degrees Celsius for uranium to ignite in air).
  5. +1
    24 December 2025 04: 35
    Judging by the dimensions, such a "projectile" should be fired from a tank gun... at lightly armored vehicles. Isn't a regular HE shell suitable? It's just an invention for the sake of a patent, to show that it works.
    1. +2
      24 December 2025 05: 47
      Here, "all" our bosses pretend to work...
      1. 0
        24 December 2025 10: 40
        I'll tell you more – they make a pretty good living doing this. Because they earn money. And it's not work, because it's completely unnecessary.
  6. +4
    24 December 2025 06: 02
    Why fire expensive APFSDS rounds at lightly armored vehicles? Ah, but these are "gentlemen from Yeltsin."
    1. 0
      24 December 2025 19: 10
      It's scary for the country if people like that start making ammunition.
  7. +4
    24 December 2025 06: 13
    Why? There's a 125mm HE shell.
    1. +2
      24 December 2025 07: 29
      Quote: Tlauicol
      There is a 125mm high explosive shell.

      There are also so-called multi-purpose tank shells! They can be used against armored vehicles, concrete, and even "personnel," if you really want to! These shells were developed in the US and Israel...
  8. +5
    24 December 2025 06: 29
    Why isn't anyone considering using this ammunition in guns of calibers between 20 and 40 mm? These are the calibers used in armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles, and other light armored vehicles. For such vehicles, attacking a tank is simply dangerous. The most they can do is defend themselves with ATGMs. But they can fight their own kind, and this ammunition would come in handy.
    1. +1
      24 December 2025 07: 57
      Quote: Yuras_Belarus
      Why isn't anyone considering using this ammunition in guns of calibers between 20 and 40 mm? These are the calibers used in armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles, and other light armored vehicles. For such vehicles, attacking a tank is simply dangerous. The most they can do is defend themselves with ATGMs. But they can fight their own kind, and this ammunition would come in handy.

      This shell won't penetrate a tank; it says here it's for engaging lightly armored vehicles. A real APFSDS round uses its weight and small diameter to penetrate tank armor. It's too expensive and useless for smaller calibers.
    2. +2
      24 December 2025 07: 58
      But they can fight with their own kind of opponents and such ammunition will come in handy.
      But such patented shells have reduced armor penetration, so in small calibers they will not penetrate light armored vehicles.
  9. +4
    24 December 2025 07: 32
    These shells are designed exclusively to destroy light vehicles
    But wouldn't a simple, time-tested, war-tested land mine be suitable?
  10. +5
    24 December 2025 08: 30
    Ural Federal University named after Boris Yeltsin

    This is, I'm not afraid to say it, a HUGE mess!
    1. 0
      24 December 2025 17: 24
      So if people study at this university, then they've disgraced themselves, but maybe people should be judged by their actions.
  11. +3
    24 December 2025 08: 35
    They "invented" the grenade (aka "chamber armor-piercing projectile," those armor-piercing projectiles with explosives in the chamber and a detonator in the ass).
    Only through this very ass as possible.

    The tank doesn't give a damn about this, and neither does the infantry.

    It's unclear why they wouldn't target light vehicles with high explosives, but if these aren't scientific failures, then there should be a justification for WHAT the HELL.
  12. +2
    24 December 2025 09: 35
    A specialized sub-caliber projectile for use against light vehicles has been patented in Russia.

    I'm no expert, but does it make sense? what
    For some reason, it seemed to me that a high-explosive shell, exploding on the armor of this light vehicle, would make a hole there instead of a hole made by a sub-caliber shell. what
    If breaches were left on tanks from the Great Patriotic War, the thickness of those armor certainly wasn't suitable for light armor. And HEAT shells did breaches when impacting thin armor.
    Correct me if I got something wrong from my sofa. feel
    1. 0
      24 December 2025 11: 07
      The cumulative one, in addition to the breach, will also turn the internal contents into dust with splashes of the cumulative jet and molten armor.
  13. 0
    24 December 2025 09: 55
    IMHO, it's crap if you think about it. Another useless patent, which has already been boasted about many times.
    (Remember: a patent for the idea of ​​placing background cosmic radiation sensors in the skin of an aircraft to detect stealth aircraft.....)

    Lightly armored shells seem to be destroyed by any standard 125mm round, and anything larger than 20mm should be guaranteed to penetrate. I saw a video of a 35mm armor-piercing shell that penetrates 50-60mm of armor.

    Another important thing: the name of the man who destroyed the country is still held in high esteem by the authorities... (Flowers from Chubais, Putin, and the Kremlin were laid at the monument.)
  14. 0
    24 December 2025 10: 06
    It’s somehow confusing and most importantly, why?
    Doesn't the OF work for light weapons? And why expand the range instead of making something universal? They'd be better off making something similar for smaller calibers (20-30mm).
    Is "zirconium" no longer used, or is it not kosher? Wouldn't it have been easier to "conjure" the bottom and add "all sorts of things"?
  15. +4
    24 December 2025 10: 18
    Firstly, these shells are designed exclusively for destroying light vehicles and, perhaps, not yet very substantial fortifications. They are useless against tanks—they won't penetrate them. This means that the ammunition is essentially highly specialized, and its use poses certain challenges in terms of expanding the ammunition loadout.

    The main problem is that there are only 22 slots in the carousel. Each additional specialized type of ammunition is a hell of a headache when choosing a loadout and a high risk of having to reload early if you choose the wrong loadout (expecting an infantry fighting vehicle, maxing out on those "crowbars with fluoroplastic," but instead, infantry or tanks arrive).
    1. +1
      24 December 2025 15: 49
      I wonder if there are any statistics on how much ammunition tanks use during a single combat engagement in various conflicts!?
      Otherwise it might suddenly turn out that these 22 are more than enough for all occasions.
      1. +1
        24 December 2025 17: 42
        Quote: Igor
        Otherwise it might suddenly turn out that these 22 are more than enough for all occasions.

        The Leopard 2's first burst is 15 shells.
        The Abrams' first-round ammunition stowage contains 18 shells.
        Leclerc has 22 shells in his machine gun,
      2. +2
        24 December 2025 18: 33
        Quote: Igor
        I wonder if there are any statistics on how much ammunition tanks use during a single combat engagement in various conflicts!?

        An ammunition reserve of 40 or more shells is specified in the requirements specifications not for a single battle, but for maneuver warfare tactics, where tanks break through enemy defenses and exploit their success. Such tactics require a sufficient supply of shells to exploit the success and continue the battle without reloading. Supplies will only "catch up" with the tanks once they reach a new line. But the Air Defense Forces have shown that maneuver warfare is not feasible.
        However, if we look at promising Western designs, the number of rounds in the ammunition pack is being revised downwards to improve crew survivability. In fact, in promising Western tanks, the entire ammunition pack is removed from the crew compartment, leaving only the portion located in the automatic loader or compartments isolated by an armored bulkhead.
        1. 0
          24 December 2025 19: 03
          This is exactly the change I meant.
  16. +1
    24 December 2025 10: 45
    подтолкнуло gentlemen

    Gentlemen? Seriously?
    Workers, specialists, employees, etc.
    "Gentlemen" who are these?

    Ural Federal University named after Boris Yeltsin

    Sorry, didn’t notice
  17. +3
    24 December 2025 11: 03
    It would be better to make a projectile with a programmable detonation in a 30 mm caliber.
    1. +1
      24 December 2025 11: 54
      What can be done there has long been done. But why? Another expensive, ineffective shell. A 30mm shell produces little fragmentation, and our guns are designed to fire projectiles in a cloud.
      1. 0
        24 December 2025 15: 50
        Done. Long ago. THERE....
    2. 0
      24 December 2025 14: 17
      Already made 1 plant, it is against drones and infantry in trenches and the building is good.
      1. +1
        24 December 2025 15: 51
        And did the same factory make the gun with the programmer?
        1. 0
          24 December 2025 23: 46
          It's a shell factory; it's not its job to drill guns.
          1. +1
            25 December 2025 00: 43
            Yes. The story doesn't work out...
            There's a shell, sort of... But there's no gun.
  18. +1
    24 December 2025 11: 24
    It would be nice to know in advance what target I'll be shooting at, otherwise carrying extra, highly specialized ammunition isn't exactly a good idea. HE is more practical in this case.
  19. +4
    24 December 2025 11: 26
    Instead of explosives, the use of mixtures of fluoroplastic and metal in powder form is proposed. At a certain pressure, these "cocktails" produce an explosive release of energy and an exothermic reaction with the release of heat. For example, a fluoroplastic/titanium mixture reacts effectively at pressures above 28 GPa, while a fluoroplastic/aluminum mixture reacts effectively at 21 GPa. The graph below clearly illustrates this.

    It's called a mechanically activated energy composite—a highly homogeneous system of interlinked submicron-sized oxidizer and fuel particles. Theoretically, such mixtures could indeed be used as explosives. However, it seems the authors of the "invention," having learned of this fact, didn't read any further.
    Achieving detonation in such mixtures is a complex process determined by a large number of factors, and the longer the charge, the lower the detonation velocity. Therefore, it's highly likely that the "inventors" from the Ural Federal University won't experience any explosion.
    Those wishing to delve deeper into the issue can find a large number of scientific publications on the internet on the topic of "Detonation in Mechanically Activated Composites" or Arrested Reactive Milling and draw their own conclusions.
  20. 0
    24 December 2025 11: 52
    A 125mm armor-piercing round will make such a hole and cause so much secondary damage that the infantry fighting vehicle is ready to be scrapped, so why bother making a separate, complex, and expensive round and lugging it around? The stowage is small.
    1. +1
      24 December 2025 14: 37
      To combat light armored vehicles, a tank needs a new semi-armor-piercing universal projectile (semi-armor-piercing grenade): with a higher velocity and flatness than the HE projectile, an armor-piercing head, a high degree of filling with explosives, ready-made striking elements, a programmable fuse (see the American AMP.)
      Such a projectile can completely replace the ammunition stowage of the BKS tank.
      In this case, the tank's ammunition stowage will consist of:
      - APFSDS for fighting tanks
      - a universal projectile for destroying light armored vehicles, fortifications, and infantry
      - High-powered HE shells for the destruction of fortifications and the destruction of infantry
      - TUR for hitting targets that require high accuracy.
      1. -1
        24 December 2025 14: 43
        Quote: Cympak
        To combat light armored vehicles, a tank needs a new semi-armor-piercing universal projectile (semi-armor-piercing grenade): with a higher velocity and flatness than the HE projectile, an armor-piercing head, a high degree of filling with explosives, ready-made striking elements, a programmable fuse (see the American AMP.)
        Such a projectile can completely replace the ammunition stowage of the BKS tank.
        In this case, the tank's ammunition stowage will consist of:
        - APFSDS for fighting tanks
        - a universal projectile for destroying light armored vehicles, fortifications, and infantry
        - High-powered HE shells for the destruction of fortifications and the destruction of infantry
        - TUR for hitting targets that require high accuracy.

        These are already patented and in production...even if not here...we're inventing our own, the main thing is to come up with something, but it's unclear why such a projectile is needed. It would be better to use a 100mm canister shot for ship-based artillery systems to destroy unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs).
        1. +1
          24 December 2025 15: 53
          Back in World War II, a radio fuse was placed in a 100mm caliber anti-aircraft shell.
          1. 0
            24 December 2025 17: 03
            This type of radio fuse required particularly durable radio tubes and parts and was only available in the USA.
            1. 0
              24 December 2025 17: 41
              The US and England had one. And they had a magnetron there.
            2. -1
              24 December 2025 23: 51
              In the 50s the USSR already had it
              ................
          2. -1
            24 December 2025 17: 37
            Quote: Igor
            Back in World War II, a radio fuse was placed in a 100mm caliber anti-aircraft shell.

            Yes, we need a simple canister shotgun...one that opens immediately and hits with bullets at a distance of up to 500 meters.
            1. +1
              24 December 2025 17: 40
              There are cheaper options for 500 meters
              1. -2
                24 December 2025 17: 58
                Quote: Igor
                There are cheaper options for 500 meters

                What could be cheaper than buckshot and what can hit with almost no aim?
                1. +1
                  24 December 2025 18: 22
                  500 meters is the maximum distance for a card shot.
                  1. 0
                    24 December 2025 18: 37
                    Quote: Igor
                    500 meters is the maximum distance for a card shot.

                    The Abrams tank has an anti-personnel round, the M1028 Canister, with 1180 9,5mm pellets that fly apart, forming a sheaf with a diameter of 70 meters (hard to miss) at a distance of 500 meters, and it costs 10 times less than a projectile with a programmable detonation...beyond 500 meters, it is difficult to see a drone.
                    1. 0
                      24 December 2025 19: 06
                      The drone must be seen and its weapons must be aimed automatically.
                      Especially with a caliber greater than 100mm.
                      1. -1
                        24 December 2025 19: 40
                        Quote: Igor
                        The drone must be seen and its weapons must be aimed automatically.
                        Especially with a caliber greater than 100mm.

                        It's further from automatics than from China, but this is a ready-made solution, a large hunting rifle with a rate of fire of over 50 rounds per minute.
                      2. 0
                        24 December 2025 20: 42
                        This isn't quite true, or rather, not true at all. An automatic target tracking system, or FCS, is a standard (optional) feature on a modern tank. Those same BEKs (aka motorboats) allow for direct hits with the first shot.
                      3. 0
                        25 December 2025 00: 45
                        It didn't work right away in biathlon and at a stationary target
                      4. 0
                        24 December 2025 21: 24
                        I always knew you had zero knowledge. Your quick downvote only confirmed it. This has long been a standard feature on the T-90.
            2. +1
              24 December 2025 18: 40
              The Americans have such a round in the Abrams's turret. It's called the M1028 and is designed for close-quarters combat, primarily in populated areas, but it can also be used effectively to clear trenches.
              The M1028 is designed for urban areas or for suppressing infantry in open terrain at ranges of less than 500 meters. The idea is for tanks to fire canister shot in key directions before entering the city, covering the infantry. After this, the soldiers advance and eliminate the threat from the flanks. After successfully clearing the flanks, the MBTs advance and repeat the previously described tactics.
    2. +1
      24 December 2025 16: 24
      Quote: Victor Sergeev
      A 125mm armor-piercing projectile will make such a hole and cause so much secondary damage that the BMP can be scrapped.

      Look at the second photo in the article - there is a hole the size of a crowbar left in the light armor, with cuts for the fins.
      Another question: why fire crowbars at the foil-lined cardboard of MRAPs and old APCs (only a crowbar will work on the new ones)? Why not standard-issue HE shells?
    3. -1
      24 December 2025 23: 47
      The direct fire range of the sub-caliber round is twice as long....
  21. +2
    24 December 2025 12: 48
    There's no single shell type for every armor thickness and range. High-explosive shells are the way to go. The caliber of tank guns allows for such shells to be powerful enough to destroy any light armored vehicle. And a 6-inch gun will be effective even if it explodes a few meters away.
  22. 0
    24 December 2025 13: 13
    Such projectiles are likely relevant for small-caliber guns. The only question is: will the shot have enough energy to produce this physical explosion?
    1. +1
      24 December 2025 15: 11
      I'm wondering if such a sub-caliber projectile would be useful for 75-100mm naval guns to penetrate the thick sides of large ships. It would probably be able to achieve penetration at a greater distance than a standard HE shell?
      1. -1
        24 December 2025 20: 51
        Firing at a large ship with a 100mm cannon is a bad idea. You could get a missile from a large ship before you can even get within artillery range.
        And the 75 mm caliber is not in service with our navy or ground forces either.
        Another issue is that the navy requested that the long-range 152mm Koalitsiya howitzer be adapted for them. But that didn't work out, and it hasn't been adopted for ground forces yet. Its shells would have been powerful enough without any gimmicks. After all, most modern ships look like they're made of tinfoil.
  23. +2
    24 December 2025 14: 17
    Yes, but why bother? For lightly armored vehicles, there's the OFZ, which can be set to a delay so it explodes after penetration. A few kilograms of explosives won't leave anything alive behind thin armor.
    1. -1
      24 December 2025 18: 42
      The OFZ is a rather slow projectile, making it difficult to hit maneuverable targets.
      1. -1
        25 December 2025 07: 46
        Quote: Cympak
        The OFZ is a rather slow projectile, making it difficult to hit maneuverable targets.

        But its fragments penetrate lightly armored vehicles at a fairly close distance.
        1. 0
          27 December 2025 09: 05
          Not always. Especially since modern Western-made armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles are at least as armored as WWII-era medium tanks.
      2. 0
        25 December 2025 08: 23
        In terms of speed, yes, but it carries several kilograms of explosives, so even if it hits the Bradley's hull, for example, it will penetrate through.
  24. +2
    24 December 2025 14: 24
    There are two patents:
    - patent for an armor-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabot projectile with enhanced after-armor impact (PELE-BOPS) https://new.fips.ru/publication-web/publications/document?type=doc&tab=IZPM&id=F1119396-CA5C-445C-A2A0-F738DEB7FB83
    - a patent for a telescopic shot with an armor-piercing fin-stabilized sub-caliber projectile
    Nowhere in the patents is there any mention of this being a projectile or shot for a tank gun (unless, of course, you're getting the idea from "Baron Tonkolyuk's" LiveJournal) https://new.fips.ru/publication-web/publications/document?type=doc&tab=IZPM&id=014FB798-F74A-4A26-8254-A54A208FC9ED
    The patent for the telescopic round seems to suggest that this ammunition is intended for use in autocannons. This explains why the APFSDS is designed to destroy light armored vehicles: it's a projectile for an infantry fighting vehicle (IFV) autocannon, designed to fight other vehicles.
  25. +1
    24 December 2025 14: 54
    So the thing is undoubtedly interesting, but it’s unlikely that they will ever produce it here.

    They definitely won't produce it. The patent holder is a university, and the patent is open. The professors are just having fun, or someone just wants the invention for show.
  26. 0
    24 December 2025 18: 13

    A Russian blogger is simply firing ATGMs from a T-90M at a decommissioned BMP-1.
    A landmine has more explosives, in theory.
  27. 0
    24 December 2025 21: 47
    Hmm, wouldn't it be easier to fire an OFS? This development looks too much like an IBD.
  28. 0
    25 December 2025 00: 01
    Judging by everything, it's a very chic thing!!!!!!
  29. 0
    25 December 2025 02: 50
    I'll second one of the commentators: the development is pointless and unnecessary. To destroy light armored vehicles, a timer fuse is needed for the HE shell. This would ensure that the shell explodes not only upon impact but also as it flies past the target. Then, the HE shell's mid-air explosion, while flying at a distance of up to 2-3 meters from the armored vehicle, is guaranteed to destroy it.
    .
    You can, of course, fantasize about a projectile with a radar, with a metal detector... but something simpler and faster is better: a timer.
    .
    These timed-detonation shells are also particularly effective, exploding over trenches rather than burrowing into the ground. This would be ideal for FAE (fuel-air detonation) shells: the cloud forms a meter above the ground, in a 20-meter-long strip, guaranteed to hit the trench, while the shell and fragments fly forward, allowing for artillery preparation before troops approach within 50 meters. However, missiles and UAVs are even better for FAE. The proportion of explosives to the shell's weight is much higher in these shells, and the lethal effect of FAE fragments cannot be expected.
  30. +1
    25 December 2025 05: 52
    21 GPa... 28 GPa—that's an order of magnitude stronger than any steel! These patent makers are planning to compress some kind of semi-plastic material inside a [relatively] thin tube to that pressure by pushing a piston into it. This tube (which shouldn't be called a "core") will simply swell if it's made of viscous metal, or crumble if it's hardened. And where would the "piston" (which is made of a high-strength, heavy material) get the strength to compress something behind it when penetrating thin armor?
  31. 0
    25 December 2025 12: 03
    What other useful things could they have invented and made publicly available at EBN's establishment?
  32. 0
    25 December 2025 15: 51
    Ural Federal University named after Boris Yeltsin

    The university needs to be renamed. Yeltsin should only be mentioned in history books as the destroyer of his own country.
  33. 0
    29 December 2025 12: 25
    Quote from alexoff
    Excuse me, but how safe is this projectile? It's a reaction between fluoroplastic and titanium, and as far as I understand, it's some kind of toxicity extravaganza. I'm surprised someone came up with something like that. It won't explode, but it will be a highly toxic and corrosive shot.

    And who corrodes? Fluoroplastic? Titanium? Which is more toxic?
  34. 0
    April 7 2026 14: 09
    There is one problem.
    When I tried to patent one of the directions of my development

    "The history of the attempt to create the Hyperbar system in Russia"
    https://topwar.ru/222170-istorija-popytki-sozdanija-sistemy-giperbar-v-rossii.html

    It turned out that someone had already filed a patent for an extremely general and completely absurd proposal, but one that, according to formal criteria, overlapped with my proposal. This patent was filed as a blocking proposal for purely trolling purposes. This created problems for me, since my proposal was a well-developed engineering solution. In the end, I was cheated out of paying for my previous invention, and I simply gave up.