Serbia will receive MiG-29 fighters and Mi-17 helicopters very soon

The Belgrade daily Blitz reported that the contract will most likely be signed during a meeting between Vucic and his Russian colleague Sergey Shoigu on May 23.

Earlier it was reported that Serbia plans to buy 12 new combat aircraft, presumably eight single and four double. Probably due to budget constraints, their number was halved.

The Serbian Air Force has three MiG-29 and one MiG-29UB of the early series, which in the 2007 year were "modestly modernized" with an increase in flight resource for 700 hours, or 10 years. The new MiG-29 will replace the old MiG-21bis, which are still in service. Unofficial sources believe that the MiG-21 has been upgraded with the help of a Russian manufacturer, which will allow them to be in the ranks outside the base resource.

Belgrade began the process of acquiring new fighters a few years ago, submitting formal requests to such global manufacturers as American Boeing and Lockheed Martin, Chinese Chengdu, French Dassault, European consortium Eurofighter, Russian RSK MiG and Sukhoi worth $ 1 billion.

Mi-17 helicopters will complement the Mi-8. Competing manufacturers, including Eurocopter, are also joining in the fight for a new tender.

Meanwhile, the Serbian Air Force is also in search of a contractor for the modernization of the 15 avionics jet training aircraft (TCB) / Soko G-4MD Super Galeb light attack aircraft. One of the bidders are EADS Cassidian and Thales, which should ensure their operation before the 2030 year.

Russian MiG-29 fighters were demonstrated in the air during an air show at Balanitsa in the 2012 year (top photo). On April X, in the framework of the celebration of the Serbian Armed Forces Day, an airshow was held in Krusevac, in which the 20 aircraft and helicopter participated, including five TCF Super Galeb, five Soko J-21 Orao light fighters / attack aircraft, one An-22 transport aircraft, nine helicopters Aerospatiale / Soko SA26 / 341 Gazelle and one Mi-342 (bottom photo). Utva Lasta's basic flight training aircraft are laid up after a fatal crash for the crew in September of one of this type of aircraft in September 8.

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[GreatRussia]

Very good!
And our brothers should help, and defend their interests in the region, respectively protect.

Previously:

The Russian Federation and Serbia have agreed on a joint modernization of military equipment.

“This is, first of all, about a wide range of products of the ammunition industry,” the Deputy Prime Minister said.

He clarified that at this stage, the first contacts are being made between the parties in the military sphere after a long break. According to Rogozin, it will be possible to speak more specifically about defense cooperation after the signing of a strategic partnership agreement between Russia and Serbia.

Rogozin noted that after the signing of an agreement on strategic cooperation between Russia and Serbia, Russia will become "aware" of the absence of restrictions on the development of military-technical ties with Serbia.

http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20121128/912636259.html#ixzz2SFPJysm7


Gazprom Neft's subsidiary, NIS (Naftna Indusrija Srbije), has completed a large-scale refinery modernization project in Serbia.
http://neftegaz.ru/news/view/105342/

[GreatRussia]

Next:

Russia became the first country with which Serbia began negotiations on a potential strategic partnership in the management of the Zhelezar metallurgical plant (Smederevo). August 21-23 this year In Belgrade, a delegation of CJSC Zarubezhstroytekhnologiya held negotiations with JSC Railways of Serbia on joint implementation of projects for the construction and modernization of the railway infrastructure of Serbia at the expense of a Russian state export loan in the amount of $ 800 million.

At the talks held in Moscow on August 21-23, the First Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defense of Serbia A. Vucic and the Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation D. Rogozin discussed issues of military and military-technical cooperation, including joint production of special equipment, access to third-country markets and deployment Russian orders at a defense enterprise producing military equipment to open in Serbia.

Cooperation is expanding between the engineering holding “Prva Petoletka”, the city of Trstenik and “KamAZ” (the Khidraulika enterprise, which is part of the holding, manufactured and sent products worth 230 thousand euros to Russian automakers in August this year, according to a statement by the general director of the Serbian holding L. Panich, the Russian market is the main market for his enterprise). The “Servo-controllers” and “Kochna Technika” factories producing automobile cylinders, hydraulic devices and brake systems work with KamAZ.

The Russian trade mission is discussing the acquisition of ABS Minel by Russian investors. The Russian company EKF has begun preparations for the supply of Russian-made electrical equipment to the Serbian market. Negotiations were held with the Serbian company GLK GROUP DOO on the possibility of supplying shoes to the territory of the Russian Federation. (2) In addition, the Trade Representation of the Russian Federation in Serbia held a series of negotiations: with the director of the Dzherdap hydroelectric station, Stankovic, on the reconstruction and modernization of the hydroelectric power station by the forces of the Russian company OJSC Power Machines; with the head of the laboratory of the Vinca Institute for Nuclear Research N. Neshkovich - on the design of the installation and commissioning of a small cyclotron for the production of radionuclides; with representatives of the NISHAUTO Serbian enterprise - on the prospects for cooperation with Russian companies in the supply of Serbian agricultural products to the Russian market and the possibility of creating a distribution center in the Russian Federation; with the leadership of one of the largest Serbian cable production enterprises Novkabel (Novi Sad) on the topic of expanding cooperation, given that the Russian market is the main product market for this enterprise; with the president of the Serbian company BK Group - on the implementation in Russia of a project for the construction of a housing and business complex with a total area of ​​1,5 million square meters. (3)

On October 10, 2012, the People's Bank of Serbia included the Russian ruble in the number of currencies with which it is possible to conduct trading operations on the interbank foreign exchange market, and gave permission to financial and currency institutions operating in Serbia to carry out operations with the Russian national currency. This measure will contribute to the rapid strengthening of Russian-Serbian trade and economic ties.

http://www.fondsk.ru/news/2012/11/15/rossia-serbia-ekonomicheskoe-i-voenno-tehni
cheskoe-sotrudnichestvo-17623.html

[treat]

It would be better to pay extra and buy normal "flankers", and not the poor 9-12 / 13.

[GreatRussia]

Quote: tratata

It would be better to pay extra and buy normal "flankers", and not the poor 9-12 / 13.

Miserable as a sickle in the same place?
Even the new Iraqi government, allegedly controlled by the State Department, is purchasing Russian equipment.
And you yourself are not averse to acquiring aircraft from Russia?

Connecticut Democrat Congresswoman Rosa Dilauro and her 9 other chambermates representing both parties sent a new letter to the Pentagon demanding the abandonment of Kazan-made Mi-17-B5 helicopters. This is the third appeal to the US military in a calendar year. The main objection to the conclusion of an agreement on the purchase of a new batch of helicopters was, as before, the fears of parliamentarians that Russia was supplying arms to the Syrian authorities.

“Russia continues through Rosoboronexport to supply arms to the Bashar al-Assad regime. She continues to serve Assad as the main supplier, making possible the mass killings of Syrians, ”the congressmen say in a letter.

This is not the first attempt to slow down the Russian order: in July last year, the supply of a new batch of helicopters was stalled. However, later the Pentagon still ordered 10 military vehicles worth $ 171 million necessary for the military. Two more helicopters were delivered earlier. In December last year, the US Congress Senate approved an amendment to the country's defense budget prohibiting the Pentagon from making transactions with the Russian company Rosoboronexport, including the purchase of helicopters for Afghanistan. However, later Rosoboronexport said that the contract for the supply of Afghanistan Mi-17 production of KVZ remains in force.

More:
http://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/77443/

[GreatRussia]

Next:

13 April 2013, 18: 59

Serbia may join the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO), in which it currently has observer status. Afghanistan has the same status in the CSTO. According to the REX news agency, on April 11, 2013, commenting on the results of the meeting of the Council of the Parliamentary Assembly of this structure in St. Petersburg, said the chairman of the National Assembly of Serbia Nebojsa Stefanovic.

“Serbia is interested in the most serious and active cooperation with this organization, since we realized that one state is not able to cope with challenges in the modern world, such as terrorism,” he said, noting that Serbia plans to expand cooperation with the countries of the Union Independent States (CIS).

http://evrazia.org/news/26268

[GreatRussia]

Next:


The base of the Russian Ministry of Emergencies in Serbia: a storm in a glass of water.

The Ministry of Emergency Situations of Russia began to build a base of the Ministry of Emergencies near the Serbian city of Nis. An agreement on this was reached during the visit of President Dmitry Medvedev to Belgrade in October 2009.

Medvedev was accompanied on this trip by Sergei Shoigu, who explained about the construction of a new base: “Russian forces take part every year in fighting fires in the region, so having a well-equipped base in it will facilitate our tasks and make our work more efficient.”

Sergei Shoigu is also the chairman of the intergovernmental commission on Russian-Serbian cooperation. In addition to Russian units, it is planned to deploy rescue teams from Bulgaria, Greece, Macedonia and Croatia at the new base.

However, in the foreign press, the construction of the base caused an ambiguous reaction. Some newspapers called it a dual-use facility and suggested that if necessary, it could be quickly converted into a military one. These rumors worried the local population. The object quickly became the source of a wide variety of rumors.

The discussions around him suggest that it could serve as a pretext for a new cold war between Russia and the European Union, that this is a strategic step on the path to the implementation by the Russian leadership of its own plan for a European security treaty.

http://www.serbia.ru/baza.htm

And with what obstacles did the convoy of Emergencies Ministry trucks go to Serbia:

[treat]

Quote: GreatRussia

Miserable as a sickle in the same place?

Yes. MiG-29 is just shitty and unnecessary. It is strange that the Serbs generally buy it after he made a mistake in that war. He could not do anything corny with his wretched avionics and R-27 against the F-16 with AIM-120. He could do nothing in Iraq in both cases.
Bottom line: the aircraft is only suitable for parades on May 9th. Even the latest ultra-nasty broods save up money and buy either the F-16 or the Su-30. There are no cranks in the world for the letter m who will buy the 29th. Except for the Serbs, of course.

[Canep]

Is this Photoshop in your opinion?

[treat]

They were bought before the Yugoslav events. After them, no one is already looking in the direction of the 29s.

[Canep]

If the plane were bad, the Germans would not keep it in combat units

[treat]

The Germans did not begin to keep him in combat units, but simply sold Poland at zero for a symbolic price of one euro.

[Canep]

The Poles also have these. And they are painted differently.

[Canep]

On them you can study geography. And you say a bad plane.

[treat]

Geography is all right.
Another thing is that I do not have to know where which flyer is ... well, you understand.

[Lord of the Sith]

You don’t owe anything at all, you can only create altos and troll ...

[treat]

Which they were going to change to F-16 by 2015.

[Akhtuba73]

Chiort, take it, fed the blinjord again! Harosh him to pour slop in a plate - burst with happiness.
Relations with Serbia are improving, not quickly but systematically. Let as a sickle ... pancake for zapadentsev!

[treat]

Quote: Akhtuba73

again fed the pancake muzzle!

Uneducable. Could already learn to ignore, but no, surely someone will fit in and will arrange discussions.

[Akhtuba73]

Now I'm ready to kiss a yellow round and wipe myself off with a pancake ... 102% right - "someone will fit in and arrange discussions"
And why are you here and are we all here?
Get it, fascist, grenade! (from the movie the phrase ... no mat)

[Corsair]

Quote: Canep

The Poles also have these. And they are painted differently.

And this is the very same "Germans" who have developed a resource and sold to the Poles.

[Corsair]

Quote: Canep

If the plane were bad, the Germans would not keep it in combat units

The Luftwaffe pilots liked the airplanes of the former German Democratic Republic’s army, although they were not in service with Germany for a relatively short time. At MIG29, German asss taught several overseas skills lessons to their overseas colleagues.
After several crushing defeats, the US command was forced to ban the Germans from using these aircraft in training exercises, so as not to undermine the morale of American fighter pilots ....

[Krapovy32]

Quote: tratata

Quote: GreatRussia

Miserable as a sickle in the same place?

Yes. MiG-29 is just shitty and unnecessary. It is strange that the Serbs generally buy it after he made a mistake in that war. He could not do anything corny with his wretched avionics and R-27 against the F-16 with AIM-120. He could do nothing in Iraq in both cases.
Bottom line: the aircraft is only suitable for parades on May 9th. Even the latest ultra-nasty broods save up money and buy either the F-16 or the Su-30. There are no cranks in the world for the letter m who will buy the 29th. Except for the Serbs, of course.

Listen to the elephant ... And let's cut off the tail, by the fuck .. about Over ..all the whole branch, come on, come on.

[treat]

You cannot refute the wretchedness of the MiG-29. Take it out, bring in the next one.

[aksakal]

Quote: tratata

Except for the Serbs, of course.

- hilariously, tra-ta-ta is smarter than all Serbs, incl. and Serbian military experts and just the military, who directly tested the "power" of these "flankers". For some reason, I think that if this power had impressed them greatly, they would not hesitate to have recruited these flankers and would not blow their mustache. But it seems that impressed them so-so, so-so ... The same is true for Iraqis. By the way, Iraqis are an example of the fact that buyers of weapons are very rational people. If during the battles with the amers they did not like Russian tanks, then they told the Russians that they would not take tanks. And in their basket there are no Russian tanks, there are some others, including and from Ukraine. But the Iraqis knew how to air defense systems and helicopters with noise, although it seems that they also did not really help the Iraqis. Paradox? No, it’s just that we don’t know much from the realities of either the Serbian or the Iraq war ... We only know from the words of the professor, pimply and others, and we have already seen how they present all this, because there is little faith to them, or rather, it is completely no.
But judging by the purchases of rational people, one can perfectly judge what weapons showed themselves in these wars. The fact that the Serbs again take the MiG-29 is clearly an indication that there were air battles in which the MiGs showed themselves worthy, otherwise the nose would be turned back, like the Iraqis from Russian tanks.
Here, either all Serbs are fools, or Tra-ta-ta. I bow to the fact that Tra-ta-ta, with which I congratulate him.

[Canep]

They do not watch advertisements on American military sites, so they buy something that does not need one.

[Artmark]

All sorts of Serbs need help!

[TUMAN]

Quote: ArtMark

All sorts of Serbs need help!

That's it, help! Billions of debts are written off to some banana republics, and they could deliver Serbia, its only ally and brother, for free!

[alexanderrus.]

Already who just did not help, but they are all either for the "hillock" or in the back. We need to revive our Army and Navy!

[Yeraz]

Damn it was like infa, what kind of loans will they buy. Who knows whether it is or not?

[Ruslan_F38]

Of course the news is good, Serbia needs to be helped. Only the latest events in Kosovo, the signing of a document with the authorities of the self-proclaimed republic of Kosovo on the normalization of relations with Serbia, the desire of Serbia in the European Union are not entirely consistent with friendly relations with Russia. In any case, it pleases that this help is not to the authorities of Serbia, but to our fraternal people! Rulers come and go, but nations remain.

[Megatron]

Why do they need technology, all the wars have been drained, have Kosovo been recognized as independent?
There’s no one to fight with anyway. It would be better to raise the economy.

[GreatRussia]

Quote: Megatron

Why do they need technology, all the wars have been drained, have Kosovo been recognized as independent?
There’s no one to fight with anyway. It would be better to raise the economy.

It’s shitty of course, but I think that it’s not catastrophic if you recall the Yeltsin’s Khasavyurt agreements concluded by their gang in the same torn Russia.
Well? In the end, Russia will not be able to help its ally (if such an alliance takes place) to deal in the same way with the freedom fighters Ich ..., ugh, "independence" from Serbia?

[TSOOBER]

to sell equipment only for "real money", if a loan is then associated with a military base -Russia credit, and they are a base for at least 10 years! There is no need for a lot of electronic reconnaissance, radar and security! It is high time to give a loan to buy equipment. base return guarantee !!

[GreatRussia]

In January 2008, Russia and Serbia signed an intergovernmental agreement on the South Stream project.

In October 2009, Gazprom Export, Gazprom Germania GmbH and Srbijagaz signed an agreement to establish the Banatski Dvor JV. In November 2009, the joint project company South Stream Serbia AG was registered. The share of "Gazprom" in the company is 51%, the share of Serbiyagaz is 49%.
http://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/25492

[GreatRussia]

Final decision:

http://www.gazprom.ru/about/production/projects/pipelines/south-stream/

[TSOOBER]

Infa skipped about the base on the territory of Belarus -Ya !!!

[Thunderbolt]

After NATO’s aggression on Serbia 1999, one American general visited the military museum in Belgrade.
General went to one of the museum’s coats, a young retired Serbian officer, and asked a question:
`` Well, was it difficult to fight with the greatest and most powerful force of the world? ''
The officer replied:
“I don’t know, we have never fought against the Russians.”

[treat]

This is something like the level of stories about Japanese TV and the Japanese master.

[Victor]

Quote: tratata

This is something like the level of stories about Japanese TV and the Japanese master.

Tratata, you are tratata, you are ours. If you were a little more thoughtful, you would know that your valiant Yusovites (at least KFOR, at least SFOR) in Yugoslavia did not even show their nose to the Serbian regions without Russian fighters. Learn the history of the meeting on the Elbe and the history of our military relations. All direct clashes between Russians and Yusovtsy ended not in favor of your masters. Even in Pristina, when one company of the Airborne Forces stood in the way of the tank brigade of the Anglo-Saxon, your masters did not have the courage to bring their threats to the real deal. During my long landing life, I saw a lot of your masters, but not one of them had a desire to fight with the Russians.

[treat]

Quote: Victor

All direct clashes between Russians and Yusovtsy ended not in favor of your masters.

In your imagination of course. Indeed, in real life there were no so-called direct clashes.

[Victor]

Quote: tratata

In your imagination of course. Indeed, in real life there were no so-called direct clashes.

This proves once again that you are a trollik, you do not know our military history at all and speak with you, only wasting time. Troll further, work out thirty pieces of silver from their swamp owners.

[GreatRussia]

Quote: Victor

Tratata, you are tratata, you are ours. If you were a little more thoughtful, you would know that your valiant Yusovites (at least KFOR, at least SFOR) in Yugoslavia did not even show their nose to the Serbian regions without Russian fighters.

Add to this video footage:

From 2 minutes 40 sec

[Focuser]

Guys, I specifically write comments so that others read. There on youtube, spec. there is a field so that the video begins immediately from a specific time. And then every time rewind ...
http://youtu.be/_AwlNjK5M5w?t=2m40s

[VDV 80-82]

it is not clear ... why are they to the Serbs? who are they going to fight with? They handed over Kosovo ... and there’s nothing more to take from them

[SHARK]

I don’t understand a bit about the Serbs now, it’s kind of like they started to agree on something with the Albanians, that is, they de facto recognized, it seems like they are flirting with the EU, and our planes are buying. Wiser or something, do not cling once again and rearm

[treat]

Quote: HAIFISCH

Wiser or something

I doubt it. Only the unlearned people will step on the same rake for the second time - in this case, the MiG-29 under-plane is in the role of a rake.

[GreatRussia]

Quote: HAIFISCH

I don’t understand a bit about the Serbs now, it’s kind of like they started to agree on something with the Albanians, that is, they de facto recognized, it seems like they are flirting with the EU, and our planes are buying. Wiser or something, do not cling once again and rearm

And where is surrounded by the EU and NATO countries, and what about the occupied ones, even if there is no access to the sea?
Take a look at the difficulties that even a convoy of the Russian Emergencies Ministry arrived with gum in Serbia. help.

[Ram chandra]

Damn - read - Syria will receive very soon receive MiG-29 fighters and Mi-17 helicopters. Already delighted .. well damn it.

[treat]

Quote: Mangust_ali

Syria will receive very soon receive MiG-29 fighters

Well, why the hell are they? Plowing the earth or drilling a house?

[GreatRussia]

Quote: tratata

Well, why the hell are they? Plowing the earth or drilling a house?

Great video editing.



How the hell? For example, fly into space:

Suborbital spacecraft training on the MiG 29UB avion, corrupted on 21.7.2011/29/21.7.2011 at the Sokol, Nizhny Novgorod, Russia base. Preparation for orbital space flight on the MiG 29 UB, 29/21.7.2011/2 was performed at the Sokol base, Nizhny Novgorod, Russia. The Stratosphere and aerobatics in a fighter MiG-2. Comprehensive Program. Suborbital flight MiG XNUMX UB, made XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX in base Sokol, Nizhny Novgorod, Russia. Flight to the edge of space XNUMX


What? Enviously?

[edge]

In Soviet times, our Soviet Union brought into space all of its allies in the VD down to the Mongols, and to which of their own ....... did the Amerosos help?

[Vtel]

They will be useful to them from the shit to clean their land, like \\\\\\\.
To shit others - you don’t need a big mind, only the end is the same as Judas’s, think while your soul is still alive.

[B_KypTke]

Well, if the oil-rich Venezuela put weapons for 4 billion pieces of paper on credit, then the brothers Serbs could already put a full squadron.
After all, if they wanted 24 fighters, it means so much to them and they really needed to respect co-religionists.

[horoh]

We have another site on the site again ... an ... started up?

[Odysseus]

For some reason, the news is given in a slightly "cropped" form. Specifically, the Serbs want to buy 6 MiG-29M2 and 2 Mi-17.

[elmi]

It seems to me that the Serbs are acquiring 6 MiG-29М2 and 2 Mi-17 on our credit, but if C-300 and even before the collapse of Yugoslavia, maybe now Serbia would not acquire, but Yugoslavia.

[jagdpanzer]

some kind of trolley bus has gone awry .. if the MiG is a bad plane then what is a good one ??? even if they give us a loan even for nothing, they are our brothers and they don’t need to help us so many friends

[honest jew]

friendship is friendship and tobacco apart! The new "pro-Russian" government of Serbia is imposing sanctions against Belarus, as a result of which the lists of representatives of official Minsk - officials, judges, prosecutors, rectors of state universities, policemen, and others - who are "banned" from entering the European Union have been expanded. complicity in repressions, sponsoring "Alexander Lukashenko's regime". In addition, Belarusian state-owned enterprises and enterprises of "close to Lukashenka" businessmen were subjected to sanctions !!!

During the NATO attack on Yugoslavia, Alexander Lukashenko personally arrived in Belgrade and expressed support for the Serbian people, while parliamentarians considered the issue of Serbia joining the union of Russia and Belarus (Union State).






As someone starts having problems, they immediately remember Mother Russia and swear friendship ...

Serbs are the same hypocrites as a wolf, do not feed, he all the same looks into the forest !!!!


Another obstacle has been overcome on the way of Serbia to the European Union: on October 25, EU foreign ministers unanimously decided to hand over to the European Commission Belgrade's application for joining the European Union !!!

Prior to this, Serbia agreed to remove from the draft resolution a clause on the unacceptability of Belgrade's declaration of independence of Kosovo. Instead, the text refers to the advisory opinion of the UN International Court of Justice and welcomes the readiness of the European Union to facilitate the dialogue process between the parties. Thus, the Serbian authorities showed that they did not intend to go into conflict with the West, which threatened the Serbs with difficulties in joining the European Union.

[Aljavad]

HELLO. SERBS - GUYS ARE NOT EASY AT ALL. REMEMBERING THE 90s, I WILL COME TO TWO OF THEIR SLEEPINGS: "TO HEAVEN-GOD, ON EARTH - RUSSIA", "WHAT WE DO NOT HAVE - WE WILL BUY FROM THE ENEMIES AND WILL CONTINUE THE WAR" - THIS IS ABOUT THE PRESENT ECONOMIC BLOCKADE. THEY HAVE A SYSTEM CRISIS OF OUR TYPE. BUT THEY TREATED THE WHOLE INDUSTRY TO SAVE. It’s a great pity that we don’t have a common border.

[Zomanus]

And they are going to update air defense? Because planes do not dance against the tomahawks.

[slaventi]

The MIG 29 is a good aircraft. The existence of Yugoslavia 20 Mig 29 did not play a special role during the NATO aggression 99 years. Yugoslavia during the war lost only a few aircraft from them only 2 in 29 moment, and the NATO about 60, while Yugoslavia had outdated air defense, to even in the first days of the war, 70 percent of the air defense systems with 125 and 75 were disabled, the rest were suppressed by electronic warfare. Do not forget that during the Second World War during the occupation of Yugoslavia, the Serbs put up massive resistance to the invaders. 300000 were there to hold a group of troops. And this means that they did not participate in the hostilities on the eastern front.
On 12 on April 1999, the parliament of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia attacked by NATO forces voted for the republic to join the union of Russia and Belarus.

At an emergency meeting, the Russian parliament fully supported its Serbian colleagues, recommending that President Boris Yeltsin and the government immediately begin preparations for this process. Yeltsin blocked this process. There was also no consequence of the adoption by the Duma of a recommendation to immediately send military personnel to the territory of Yugoslavia.
Serbs and Montenegrins are perhaps the only spark of our allies.

[honest jew]

Quote: slaventi

Yugoslavia during the war lost only a few aircraft, of which only 2 mig 29, and NATO about 60

During the campaign, the alliance lost two soldiers killed (the crew of the American AH-64 helicopter, which crashed during a training flight in Albania). According to official information from the US Air Force, two American aircraft (F-16 and F-117) were shot down by the air defense system of Yugoslavia, both pilots were picked up by search and rescue services. In addition, the US government has officially acknowledged the loss of two Predator unmanned aerial vehicles. In 2003, American researcher Ralph Sanders cited data that 22 NATO unmanned aerial vehicles were lost during the conflict. US Navy officer R. Dixon mentions in his research that in the period after March 1999 24 NATO unmanned aerial vehicles were lost here (including 4 Predator, 4 Hunter, 4 Pioneer, 6 German CL-289 , one French CL-289, two French "Crecerelle", two British "Phoenix").

Yugoslav military aviation took a minimal part in repelling NATO raids, performing only 11 sorties to intercept enemy aircraft in 11 weeks of war, but suffered significant losses - according to Yugoslav and Russian researchers, the Yugoslav Air Force lost 6 aircraft in the air, and about 70 more were destroyed on the ground. Two-thirds (11 of 16 aircraft) of the most modern MiG-29 fighters and half of the old MiG-21 fighters (33 of 60 aircraft) were lost

[honest jew]

Quote: slaventi

Serbs and Montenegrins are perhaps the only sparks of our allies

What about Belarusians?

[GreatRussia]

Quote: Honest Jew

What about Belarusians?

In fact, one people. Siblings.

[slaventi]

Well, of course, Belarusians too, we’re just the same people.

[slaventi]

Here are the data of the Yugoslav side: 61 aircraft, 7 helicopters, 30 UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicles) and 238 cruise missiles. Of course, it can be argued that this is all Yugoslav propaganda, but why then are the data on the NATO losses cited by the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) of the Russian army close to those of the Yugoslavs? The data of the GRU, published in a number of Russian newspapers, were obtained from electronic reconnaissance, from reconnaissance satellites and ships located in the Mediterranean. Our GRU, given the official position of the political leadership of Russia, simply could not participate in propaganda actions of the Yugoslav military. This means that these data are close to true. Similar to them, the loss figures of NATO aircraft are also given by Chinese military sources.

But the most important thing is that the NATO officials themselves and some Western newspapers were constantly talking about the real losses themselves (control over them was not so tight). For example, at the very beginning of the war, British Defense Secretary Robertson admitted the loss of three British Tornado fighter-bombers in the skies over Yugoslavia, but they were "forgotten" in the final report of NATO losses. Some independent think tanks in the West did not share the official optimism either. So, the American International Association for Strategic Studies, after only the first month of hostilities (and they lasted more than two and a half months in total), claimed that the losses of the Allied aviation were already 38 aircraft, 6 helicopters and 7 UAVs. These data coincide with the data of the SFRY Air Force as of April 1999. True, after the end of the war, this association did not publish the final data on losses - apparently, it did not want to discredit its reputation with the NATO "officialdom", and it was "advised" not to give the real figures. There are a lot of such examples, but you can use another approach, so to speak, the "method of indirect evidence"

[slaventi]

we need to remember how the Americans classified their losses in the Korean war, they still lie about this, although the war in Korea was a long time ago. Yugoslavia had no chance in the 99 war of the year. If they resisted as in time of World War II, they would and genocide as then, as in those years.