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New anti-Russian "pearls" of Western "partners": private opinions or links of big propaganda?

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Not so long ago, an article was published on the website “Military Review”, which dealt with the painful topic for our country of attempts to demonize the image of the Soviet soldier-liberator, and of Russia itself, which (attempts) are now actively undertaking in a number of Western states. The article caused quite a heated discussion, in which the voices of several readers stood out in a special way. The meaning of the posts of these gentlemen was that the author, they say, lets in "on the air" some information provocation. They say that, in fact, the West is not at all trying to demonize the victorious soldier, and with it the whole of Russia, but on the contrary, continues to treat the Great Victory with reverent feelings.


Frame from the film "Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter"


The fact that German schools in the section “Foreign Literature” officially introduces the study of the very specific work of Alexander Solzhenitsyn “Prussian Nights” about the “atrocities” of Soviet soldiers in Germany in the last months of the war; the fact that the monuments to Soviet soldiers are increasingly turning into objects for abuse; what Western textbooks correspond in a suspiciously one-sided manner stories World War II; the fact that articles about “Russian barbarians in Europe” appear in the German media, which are based on the quotations of Joseph Goebbels - apparently, they were not particularly impressed by the gentlemen, who saw this only as a provocation by the author of the material in the “Military Review”. For some reason, these same gentlemen did not deign to see provocations from those who are engaged in the real defamation of world history. And if so, then it is foolish to enter into a discussion with the authors of posts of the specified content. It will be much more useful and more effective to continue the material by covering the new facts of clearly anti-Russian pressure from a number of Western structures, and even entire states.

The next blow to the status of the Soviet soldier-liberator was now dealt by German filmmakers. During the celebration of the parallel years of Germany in Russia and Russia in Germany, German director Philip Caldebach decided to present the German people "his own truth about the war" in the form of the film "Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter". Against the background of the story about the “adventures” of German friends on the Eastern Front, the author’s intention to show from the most unattractive side of Russian soldiers, who, according to the director, saw the main target of mass rape of German girls and women and the massacre of wounded in the hospitals they occupied, stands out. . Apparently, Caldebach was “impressed” with the speeches of Joseph Goebbels, who at one time described the Soviet servicemen as “steppe scum” who go to Germany solely to rob, kill and rape.

It is noteworthy that Caldebach, in the “best traditions of the genre,” is moving away from showing how those obviously few Soviet soldiers who committed pogroms and raped German women in Germany were sent to the tribunal, even despite the regalia and merits they received during the war. Really! Why is it to show the German audience - you can still, what good, dispel the impression formed during the film about the "Soviet barbarity".

After the release of the film “Our Mothers, Our Fathers” on German screens (the film was shown on the ZDF channel), the Russian Foreign Ministry sent a protest note to Germany. The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, in its note, states that it is absolutely unacceptable to attempt to compare the mass atrocities of the Nazi troops on the territory of the Soviet Union during the Great Patriotic War and the excesses of individual Soviet soldiers and officers, who were also severely punished for the crimes committed. against the civilian population.

The film, which demonstrates exclusively the "atrocities" of Russian soldiers and Polish partisans (amazing one-sidedness of German directors, isn't it, considering who and against whom launched the great war), was named in Germany as a cultural event of the year ... If you use the same terms, it’s hard to imagine what else the “cultural” events were prepared by our German “partners” in the framework of the cross year of culture of the Russian Federation and the Federal Republic of Germany ... Perhaps materials about Adolf Hitler’s “inhuman bringing to suicide” or “cruelties of steel” Hradec in the battles against the German Army ... "After the publication of Mr. Kaldebaha film with producer Nico Hofmann support, had offered to" the truth about the war "10 million euros, and these stories do not seem to be impossible for German filmmakers ...

It should be noted that outraged by the film were not only the Russians and citizens of Germany, who have Russian roots. In Poland, the "creation" of German filmmakers also caused an uproar. This is due to the fact that in the film the Polish partisans are shown by some bloodthirsty monsters. This interpretation of the events of the Second World War from the side of Caldebach led to the fact that Polish politicians sent a written protest to the ZDF channel in connection with the release of the film on the screens.

In this regard, as usual, there will be those people who will say: what do you let the German filmmakers down? They say, unless in Russia do not remove anything like that. "Bastards", for example ... Or the production and play of Alexei Guskov in the Ukrainian-Russian-German film "4 of the Day in May" ... Yes, they are shooting. This is the sad moment. But only in Russia, people responsible for film screening have enough wit and will to come to their senses in time and make films of a very specific “military” content from the rental, as was the case last year with the same “4 Tage im Mai”. And there are decent people like Vladimir Menshov, who refuse to recognize the artistic value of films, the authors of which are engaged in cheap defamation of history. I would like to hope that in Germany they will also re-evaluate the cultural significance of the film Kaldebach considered above.

Continuing the conversation about the fact that in a number of Western countries it is becoming more and more popular to exhibit Russia as the main world monster, it is worth touching on one more “artistic” work. This time, the Scandinavian “partners” decided to check in, having decided to use the book “Occupied” by the Norwegian writer U. Nesbe for the shooting of his “film masterpiece”. Recently, we have already managed to get used to the fact that the occupiers of us and our ancestors are called representatives of the authorities of the Baltic states, Georgia or certain areas of the west of Ukraine. However, the topic of the Russian occupation of Norway is, you see, something new ... Did Mr. Nesbyo become infected with the “occupation syndrome” in Estonian or Latvian fans of his work? ..

However, in his book, which Swedish cinematographers have suddenly gathered to film, Nesbe writes not about the past. His eye attracts only the future of Europe. And in this very future, the Norwegian writer sees, for some reason, not the threat of the dominance of radical Islamists in his own Norway, and not the threat of cultivating sodomite relations among his compatriots and other democratised Europeans, but ... oh, horror - the occupation of Norway by Russia. Nesbe in the genre of some artistic analytics of geopolitical processes writes that Russia allegedly may in the near future launch an invasion of Norway under the slogan of ensuring uninterrupted oil supplies to partner countries. Stormy, however, fantasy ...

The film on this book has not even started to shoot, and the rights to show it have already managed to buy two European channels: Arte (France and Germany) and NRK (Norway). Apparently, the leadership of these channels is sure in advance that the film “Occupied” simply cannot but arouse interest in a certain number of Europeans, in which the spirit of Russophobia is fueled from a very early age. But why do Norwegian and Swedish creative gentlemen not want to present a film to their compatriots about how entire neighborhoods of Scandinavian cities are dominated by hijabs and black dressings with Wahhabi quotations made in Arabic script? Why not make a film that some parts of Oslo resemble, rather, African “oases”, in which people do not know a word in Norwegian? Why about this (real) occupation of Scandinavia - nothing, but about anti-Russian phobias - both books and films? Apparently, these are the fruits of the long walking of Mother Europe through the labyrinths of their own multiculturalism and tolerance. To tell the truth about radical Muslims is a taboo, since it can be linked to the violation of human rights, but to present another lie about Russia is the very thing for a European man in the street who grew up in Russophobia during the Cold War.

So in fact, the point is that the Cold War has been left behind, that Europe is being torn apart by completely different problems, completely different threats are confronting modern European society. But, apparently, the narrow-mindedness of European civilization is today so strong that it would be better there to exaggerate the image of the “old adversary”, rather than convey to the understanding of one’s own society the presence of opponents and threats of new ones and more real ones.
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  1. vilenich
    vilenich 4 May 2013 07: 57
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    The Germans will never forgive us for their defeat in the war!
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 4 May 2013 08: 08
      66
      .... German filmmakers have now inflicted.

      The most painful blow is delivered by the so-called. domestic "filmmakers", if you look at how they have recently portrayed our people, our soldiers in many of their "works".


      Well, and in the German film industry there is nothing unusual and strange, if you look at where the feet of these Russophobia grow ... filmmakers:


      The popular German TV series "Inspector Derrick", which has been shown in 20 countries for 100 years, including Russia, is now urgently taken off the air throughout Europe due to the posthumous scandal with the actor who played the main character.

      Horst Tuppert turned out to be a veteran of the SS division "Death's Head", although in an interview he said that during the war years he was an orderly, and all his official biographies began in 1945.


      Everything was discovered by chance: a German scientist found out that Tappert, as part of the SS troops, fought on the territory of the Soviet Union and was wounded near Kharkov.

      http://www.1tv.ru/news/world/232231

      As they say, you dig deeper, and there ... fellow
      1. FC SKIF
        FC SKIF 4 May 2013 17: 22
        14
        The film - shit "4 days in May" was shot much earlier than their "masterpiece". So ours was "with the support of the Ministry of Culture" and de facto this is the official version of Russia. After the Russians themselves have agreed that their grandfathers are not heroes, but beasts, why can't the "injured party" film a film on the same topic?
        1. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 4 May 2013 17: 58
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          Quote: FC Skif
          After yourself русские agreed that their grandfathers are not heroes, but cattle

          Who agreed? Do not confuse? The so-called bohemia is not our people.
          1. FC SKIF
            FC SKIF 5 May 2013 07: 18
            +9
            You do not understand me. The Ministry of Culture is the official institution of Russia. If it supported such turbidity, then, therefore, the official. Russia also supports
            1. antidote
              antidote 5 May 2013 15: 30
              10
              There is no need to identify Medvedev’s government with the state. The Ministry of Culture still feels the influence of Shvydkov (who claimed that Russian fascism is much more dangerous than German)
            2. zol1
              zol1 6 May 2013 10: 18
              +2
              Ministry of Culture - an official institution of Russia

              Do you think that there at the top they express the vision of the majority?
        2. Tverichanka
          Tverichanka 4 May 2013 19: 30
          +8
          Quote: FC Skif
          Russians agreed

          And I agree with you, since we are able to cheat ourselves, even over the hill they will not always be able to. Why nod at them? They never hid that they could not stand us. But their own citizens love to tear a vest on their bosom - "For the Motherland!", But at the same time pour slops on it so that the enemies cannot keep up.
          1. brelok
            brelok 4 May 2013 21: 01
            +9
            Russophobia has always been from the most ancient times and will not disappear anywhere. It is high time to stop looking at the West., As Alexander did at one time. He crushed all of Europe in a short time and Russia was truly great! It's time for our politicians to understand this! The West understands only power! But there is no power yet. Although why not! block the ventel for one day and Europe will become cancer.
            1. paunch
              paunch 4 May 2013 22: 21
              14 th
              like that, you’re cutting a sword heavily with a saber.
              faster than Europe will become a cancer budget of the Russian Federation.
          2. Nick
            Nick 4 May 2013 21: 52
            -1
            Quote: Tverichanka
            But their own citizens love to tear a vest on their bosom - "For the Motherland!", But at the same time pour slops on it so that the enemies cannot keep up.

            Here you are too ...
          3. yak69
            yak69 5 May 2013 23: 04
            +8
            Quote: Tverichanka
            They never hid the fact that they hate us.

            When in gayrope or America it is necessary to distract the people from the "activities" of their governments, "lowering" their own citizens and direct their just indignation, they (gayropean politicians) use a method as old as the world - create an image of the enemy! It's comfortable. Citizens are angry with economic problems and crises, their anger is looking for a way out, and then BOOM !! the image of the enemy! "This is all she, barbaric Russia, offends us gay Europeans! Look what they did to your fathers and mothers! It's because of Russia that we are undernourished, underdrink, they are speculating in oil and gas! Atu them!"
            AND EVERYTHING! Here is an object for your hatred - Russia. Add some religious differences here and the basis for the new "Drang nach Osten" is ready.
            Many citizens do not want to bother with thoughtful thinking, because live by instincts, and even the geyropeyts live by solid animal instincts - pedophilia and LGBT blooms in a violent color.
            And in Russia, the fifth column, in the form of the Ministry of Culture, and the entire Government of the Russian Federation as a whole, the metropolitan intelligentsia - all of this audience with joy (who is for money, and who from the heart) will betray the country for Western values.
            There you have it all.
        3. commitment
          commitment 4 May 2013 22: 01
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          "4 days in May":
          Director - Achim von Borris
          Screenplay - Achim von Borris, Edward Reznik ....
          Operator - Bernd Fisher
          Composer - Thomas Feiner
          Artist - Agi Ariunseichan Davaachu, Björn Novak, Nicole Fishnaller
          Montage - Antje Zinga
          And a number of Russian "actors" (including Mr. Guskov) generally ceased to exist for me after this film.
          The fact that this "Slavic" film brigade worked "with the support of the Ministry of Culture" kills on the spot ...
          1. Aleks21
            Aleks21 5 May 2013 19: 31
            10 th
            "The author, referring to the story of the Marshal of the USSR, described the alleged case of the arrival of Hitler's troops to the aid of a Soviet reconnaissance group. The scouts stopped an attempt by a drunken major tanker to rape a German girl, later they were slandered by him and forced to engage in battle with the Soviet tank unit. Potential reliability. the story is confirmed by its publication in the authoritative Russian historical illustrated magazine "Rodina". " From Wiki ...
            For what they bought, for what they sold. Do not figs to hang on the actors the label "enemies of the Slavs." There were freaks in the war, mom - do not cry. Another thing is not to show this on the central channels and not by May 9.
            1. Aleksys2
              Aleksys2 5 May 2013 21: 23
              +9
              Quote: Alex21
              The potential reliability of the story is confirmed by its publication in the authoritative Russian historical illustrated magazine Rodina. "From Wiki ...

              And why don’t we quote further ??
              However, later in the same Rodina journal, an article was published by Boris Sokolov, a candidate of historical sciences, in which he gives arguments casting doubt on the authenticity of the political report quoted in Dmitry Fost's story. Later, other historians claimed that the plot was fictitious from beginning to end, including archival documents that were never found. In particular, the Russian historian Alexei Isaev, following a discussion with Dmitry Fost, posted the author's frank answer about the actual reason for the appearance of this invention:
              “As it turned out in a private conversation, he wrote about the“ brotherhood in arms ”on Rügen from mega-geopolitical considerations: we must put up with the Germans, create an axis Berlin-Moscow-Beijing. - A. Isaev, Report
            2. yak69
              yak69 5 May 2013 23: 24
              +4
              Quote: Alex21
              Do not figs hang on the actors the label "enemies of the Slavs." There were freaks in the war mom - do not cry

              Geeks are everywhere, it's true. But, the actor, a public man, has enormous responsibility for everything that he does and HOW he lives in his private life! Millions are looking at him. And if he allows himself to shit, to lie, to debauchery, then his fans can do the same. This is understood by every normal person who has a moral and spiritual core. Many prominent Soviet actors preferred oblivion and financial difficulties to the vulgarity that they were offered to play for money! Ulyanov, Tikhonov, Nozhkin, Lavrov, Lanovoi, Basilashvili and many others. These are people who have honor and dignity. And such as guskov and the like, these are traitors and rabble, who sold (already) their souls.
              Judah!
              And if you do not understand this and consider it the norm, then you have not gone far from them.
        4. tommy1984
          tommy1984 4 May 2013 22: 07
          14
          Vanya and Petya are sitting in the courtyard of the house and say: listen, for a long time Hans Speer, who lives on the other side of the village 5 km from our house, threw a stick from his garden towards our house! Come on, let's go and hit him on the neck!

          I would like to say the following: guys, it's clear that Hans is thrashing nonsense there. The guy is not graying himself correctly. Just look: Risto Malziavskis and Mikola Lvivsky live right next to you and shit in your garden every day. Why don't you go and polish the dial with these neighbors first? And a couple of bastards at home not to teach how to behave as it should be?
          1. kaprall
            kaprall 5 May 2013 15: 06
            +2
            said well, however ...
          2. psdf
            psdf 10 May 2013 17: 20
            0
            If Hans had just thrown the stick (by the way, in writing, tell in detail - to whom, where, under what circumstances, who was present at the same time), so he also along the way with his company drove up to Agazon Kritsky (to whom we borrowed at good interest), tried he has to squeeze money out of the blue ...
            Anyway: Who helped the star-striped in the cold years? Does it help now?
            So it is better to sit silently and do not meddle with your "sticks".
            PS On the topic of polishing asses - everything has its time. Anyway, everyone looks and is horrified by the power of our terrible neighbors:

            They have a whole secret tank, we are very afraid of them.
      2. kaprall
        kaprall 5 May 2013 15: 04
        -2
        And how many of our famous and beautiful actors fought? What, after the Victory, all Germans immediately ceased to be soldiers of the defeated army? Yes, it was unfashionable to be an SS soldier, but not everyone was shot unarmed, most of them HONESTLY fought for their ideals.
        And what became an actor, honor and praise. By the way. they say not bad ..
        All barricades have two sides.
    2. Kaa
      Kaa 4 May 2013 08: 11
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      Quote: vilenich
      The Germans will never forgive us for their defeat in the war

      Yes, I kind of like a drum, their forgiveness, we will not forgive them 28 million dead, most of them civilians. And when they start making films about their atrocities in the USSR, then you can think about reconciliation. And our bohemian directing, with such films - on the FI from the beach in the same Germany or Norway, let someone try to drag in their own nonsense there.
      1. skeptic
        skeptic 4 May 2013 11: 14
        14
        Quote: Kaa
        And our bohemian directing, with such films - on the FI from the beach in the same Germany or Norway, let someone try to drag in their own nonsense there.


        So most likely, they are riveted for them. Work out their pieces of silver.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 4 May 2013 16: 39
          +4
          Quote: skeptic
          , for them and rivet. Practice their silver pieces

          Nah
          They have enough of their free / progressive ones there!
          more precisely
          they rivet for us. Practice their silver pieces

          If one out of a thousand, at least doubt it ...
          hi
      2. Gari
        Gari 4 May 2013 14: 11
        14
        as those obviously few Soviet soldiers who carried out pogroms and raped German women in Germany, they were sent to the tribunal, even despite the regalia and merits they received during the war.

        And this is after the German army devastated half the country, destroyed all cities from Brest to Moscow, destroyed millions of civilians, mothers, sisters and children of these same Soviet soldiers
        1. воронов
          воронов 5 May 2013 20: 24
          +4
          Quote: Gari
          the regalia and merit they received during the war.

          In war they receive not "regalia and merit", but military awards soldier
        2. Jurkovs
          Jurkovs 8 May 2013 08: 13
          0
          According to the military prosecutor’s office, “in the first months of 1945, 4148 officers and a large number of privates were convicted of military atrocities against the local population. Several demonstration trials of military personnel resulted in the death penalty for those responsible ”, data from the website of the Russian Military Historical Society.
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 4 May 2013 08: 13
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      Quote: vilenich
      The Germans will never forgive us for their defeat in the war!

      And this is expressed even in such a trifle as writing an application for benefits can be in any language, even in Arabic, but not in Russian.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 4 May 2013 10: 55
        19
        Which is deeply true. Winners should not beg for the defeated benefits. And if they beg, it means traitors to Russia. And since they are traitors, they can be treated as the owner pleases. The traitor should be gentle in licking the master's ass, and not remind him of anything unpleasant ...
        1. Tverichanka
          Tverichanka 4 May 2013 19: 36
          +5
          Quote: Mikhail3
          supporters should not beg for defeated benefits.

          Yes, yes, you are absolutely right! It is not at all to have self-esteem to get to such a thing. It is better to die of hunger than to bend your back in front of them.
    4. Mitek
      Mitek 4 May 2013 08: 19
      22
      vilenich, and do not care about them, forgive, not forgive. The problem is different. There is a treatment of ordinary Western inhabitants of all EU countries, they should not see Russian people. The myth of the threat from the east is re-inflated. What for? It's one thing to make money for the army, but what if the first stage of preparation for something serious? It’s not in vain that we are rearming ourselves .. If now there are messages about bringing to readiness, construction of new ones and taking away from entrepreneurs (which has to be done for a long time) old objects of civil defense and emergency situations, then very soon .. And in general, as they say- paranoid, this does not mean that you are not being watched "))))
      1. Heccrbq
        Heccrbq 4 May 2013 11: 04
        13
        And what kind of war do you predict? With avalanches of tanks and clouds of airplanes? The war is already underway, and this filmman is one of its episodes.
      2. skeptic
        skeptic 4 May 2013 17: 00
        +3
        Quote: Mitek
        If now there are reports of alerting, construction of new ones and taking away from entrepreneurs (which has to be done for a long time) of old objects of civil defense and emergency situations, then very soon .. And in general, as they say, "If you are paranoid, this does not mean that you are not being followed "))))


        I can "reassure" the development of civil defense and emergency warning systems is in full swing. With practice on which TV channels and radio stations to receive messages. Entrepreneurs will not have their premises taken away. Our state is now with a different set of values. Wealthy uncles have personal hideouts, in case of emergency. More precisely, you need to look at the "elite", as soon as the mass travel abroad begins, then ...
    5. Sibiryak
      Sibiryak 4 May 2013 08: 22
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      Quote: vilenich
      The Germans will never forgive us for their defeat in the war!

      The Germans have absolutely nothing to do with it, among them, by the way, there will be more people adequately related to World War II than in other European countries. And in my opinion the ancestors of those scumbags who organized and did everything possible to start this massacre in the 2th century do it!
      1. vilenich
        vilenich 4 May 2013 11: 59
        +6
        Quote: Sibiryak
        The Germans have absolutely nothing to do with it

        Actually, by "Germans" I meant a certain composite image of the enemy! Because, how mud we are and, what is especially offensive to the Victory in WW2, are being watered by everyone and sundry, including the corrupt part of the domestic cinema, and the entire post-Soviet space!
        1. Sibiryak
          Sibiryak 4 May 2013 13: 07
          10
          Quote: vilenich
          Actually, by "Germans" I meant a certain composite image of the enemy!

          I would call it collective, for one simple reason - the organizers overseas and the English Channel, and the performers are practically all of Europe, if it is not alright with its arrogance! Consequently, more than half the world attacked the USSR, not counting the Papuans running with wooden spears.
          Quote: vilenich
          Victory in WW2, watered everyone and sundry

          It’s just that nothing happens in life, it’s just that a new gay-European thinking is being formed in Europe!
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 4 May 2013 16: 48
            +2
            That's right !!! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
          2. VADIMKRSK
            VADIMKRSK 4 May 2013 17: 21
            +4
            From the point of view of a normal German and a normal Russian, there was a meaningless massacre. Bismarck warned. Well, they would take Moscow, like Napoleon, and what next? ... The center of Russia is Krasnoyarsk.
      2. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 4 May 2013 16: 42
        +2
        The descendants of those railway Ziontsts, whom our ancestors beat, are doing, and we will beat if necessary, and we will not rape, but we will destroy it as a kind !! Let them think about it! How will the next attempt end for them !!! All wars have been and are being made by railway Zionist moneybags sitting in the Fed and on Wall Street !!! That's who you need to jam first!
    6. Pule
      Pule 4 May 2013 08: 31
      11
      Read Bismarck ...
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 4 May 2013 16: 57
        +5
        The West (Europe) needs to read Bismarck with the USA and England, only 68 years have passed and everyone has already forgotten! We went to war with our troops, didn’t we pass them on to our descendants !!!
    7. NKVD
      NKVD 4 May 2013 09: 18
      21
      Nothing terrible happened. Think a little bit of German women. These bitches themselves climbed into the "bed" of the soldiers, they want to eat something ... And the current GEYMANIA should forever be grateful to Russia and the Great Humanist Stalin, for the fact that she still exists. what they did in our country they had to be destroyed both as a state and as a nation ...
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 4 May 2013 09: 33
        12
        Quote: NKVD
        And the current GAYMania ...

        And here is the future GAYMania and the future filmmakers:



        German teens want to teach homosexuality right in schools


        Moscow. 4th of July. INTERFAX - The German Regional Institute for Schools and the Media "Lisum" prepared and presented in Berlin in order to combat prejudices against homosexuality role-playing exercises for students 14 years and older.

        http://www.interfax-religion.ru/print.php?act=news&id=19053

        As well as the rest of the geyropa. For instance:

        England's primary schools will talk about sexual poses and homosexuality

        London. 10th of March. INTERFAX - Cartoons, videos and books that openly talk about sex are approved as training aids for sex education five year old children in a number of English schools.

        http://www.interfax-religion.ru/print.php?act=news&id=39838

        It’s scary to imagine what’s going on in Hollywood, even if:

        5200 employees
        Pentagon caught catching child pornography!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DCHMyN92T7U#
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 4 May 2013 09: 47
          12
          Quote: GreatRussia
          London. 10th of March. INTERFAX - Cartoons, videos and books that openly talk about sex are approved as teaching aids for the sexual education of five-year-old children in a number of English schools

          So pedophilia will soon be legalized.
          Quote: GreatRussia
          5200 Pentagon employees caught buying child pornography!

          And how many employees work in the Pentagon?
          If such laws are passed for perverts, then all the authorities are mired in debauchery. It simply cannot be otherwise !!! The entire Congress and the White House, you can also safely add to the list of lovers of children's "love"
        2. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 4 May 2013 11: 00
          13
          The Russians are to blame for this, of course! During World War II, these terrible Russians raped not only all the Panthers, but the Tigers too! That deeply traumatized the delicate European psyche. All evil comes from these Russians ...
        3. cth; fyn
          cth; fyn 4 May 2013 11: 47
          +9
          German teens want to teach homosexuality right in schools

          In the process, they punished themselves am
          1. sergo0000
            sergo0000 4 May 2013 20: 31
            +4
            Quote: cth; fyn
            German teens want to teach homosexuality right in schools

            In the process, they punished themselves am

            This is true. And for our Motherland, I am calm.
            So do not take this product to your heart. The more Stoics understand what they are trying to do with us, the more chances our children have for living in an adequate society
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 5 May 2013 13: 15
              +4
              I would be calm when all homosexuals are driven back underground, as during the Soviets, otherwise the excitement was made worse worse than homosexuality, some kind of nonsense !!! DUMA of homosexuals to the basement !!! Or are there enough lobbyists in their midst? So they were in the basement, as it was, and then tv.ri laws for normal people write !!!!
      2. Tartary
        Tartary 4 May 2013 10: 40
        +9
        Quote: NKVD
        What they did with us they had to be destroyed both as a state and as a nation ...

        That's it, this is the whole Russian nature ... Either to love and everything connected with these, or to destroy, like winners, which hardly could have happened in principle ...

        But it’s cunning .. the Jews are milking and milking the Germans still ...
        What is it that’s not too big
        Is it worth it to list those whom they still milk? Or is it better to list those who are not milked?

        And they will milk until the end of the century, while there are those who can really pile on everyone, without exception, regardless of their own sacrifices, and those who imagine that they can take the place of the first ...

        When both those and those suddenly disappear, as a phenomenon that is unlikely, and there are only real goyim left, the Jews will calm down and engage in satiety and sorrow with the search for the holy tablets of Moses.

        Amid all this, it’s whistling, of course, really regretting that I want to say that I’ll say something that revolves in the language: - maybe something in Hitler’s position was not entirely wrong? AND???????????????? request
        Forgive me if someone is just like a sickle on "coconuts", but you can't throw out words from a song, and you can't nail a tearing thought with nails ... Everyone understands what kind of Jews we are talking about ... crying
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 4 May 2013 12: 23
          15 th
          Quote: Tartary

          But it’s cunning .. the Jews are milking and milking the Germans still ...
          What is it that’s not too big
          Is it worth it to list those whom they still milk? Or it’s better to list those who are not milked. Against the background of this, it’s whistle-blowing, of course, really regretting that I want to say that I will say something that revolves in the language: - maybe something in Hitler’s position was not entirely wrong? BUT???????????????? request
          Forgive me if someone is just like a sickle on "coconuts", but you can't throw out words from a song, and you can't nail a tearing thought with nails ... Everyone understands what kind of Jews we are talking about ... crying

          You yourself are a cunning Nazi who is trying to cover up a swastika with a cheap demagogy in a rotten gut.
          1. Tartary
            Tartary 4 May 2013 12: 32
            +8
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            You yourself are a cunning Nazi who is trying to cover up a swastika with a cheap demagogy in a rotten gut.

            You shouldn’t be so ...
            I’m writing with confidence that there are more and more adults here and understand that I’m talking about w .. massonism and I’m leading, and not about my many friends, Jews and their friends with whom I have been friends for a long time, and in a row with those whom I mean, I won’t put it in ...

            But in terms of mood, who's stopping you from reacting since it happened (mood)?

            But since you react like that, then I understand what I wanted to convey, in some form I reached the goal and penetrated ...
            Stop taking on what does not apply to you ...

            Or is it all the same?
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 5 May 2013 13: 29
              +1
              Probably refers to this Aron !!! Their underground Zionists, a dime a dozen !!!
          2. alexander rus.
            alexander rus. 4 May 2013 14: 10
            +6
            Aron Zaavi - "On the thief and the hat is on fire" (the voice of the people).
          3. antidote
            antidote 5 May 2013 15: 36
            +1
            But do not they milk it?
        2. VADIMKRSK
          VADIMKRSK 4 May 2013 17: 48
          +1
          Not very clear about the Jews. If you kill all the redheads, they will appear again in a generation. If you kill all the Jews - their place will be taken by some other nation "chosen by God" ...
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 5 May 2013 13: 32
            +2
            Like ETI, among other nations I have never met in life, although there are people among these too !!
        3. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 5 May 2013 13: 24
          0
          In reality, the world is ruled by the railway Zionist monetary elite, led by the Rothschilds, du Pont, Bushim and other Jews !!! Until we discover Zionism-fascism there will be no peace !!!
      3. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq 4 May 2013 12: 54
        +6
        Quote: NKVD
        Just think a little German women fucked.

        Must be grateful for the renewal of the gene pool ......
        Although ... judging by the current state of affairs in Geimania, they are simply offended to tears because they "satisfied" the German women (women), so if they were fighting the male half, then now everyone in Geimania would be happy ........ ..
      4. Pancho
        Pancho 4 May 2013 14: 17
        +7
        Quote: NKVD
        Nothing terrible happened. Think a little bit of German women. These bitches themselves climbed into the "bed" of the soldiers, they want to eat something ... And the current GEYMANIA should forever be grateful to Russia and the Great Humanist Stalin, for the fact that she still exists. what they did in our country they had to be destroyed both as a state and as a nation ...

        Golden words, removed from my tongue.
      5. kanarias
        kanarias 4 May 2013 17: 25
        +1
        All right said. THANKS
      6. VADIMKRSK
        VADIMKRSK 4 May 2013 17: 31
        +2
        Stalin understood that only the Germans could object to the Anglo-Saxons. The rest is only in its territory. And then timidly ...
    8. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 4 May 2013 09: 50
      24
      First of all, in this situation, the Russian authorities are guilty of allowing the victorious soldiers to pour mud. Any attempts to demonize our victorious warriors must be brutally suppressed and at the root, especially for local vyblyad .. liberal-minded common people.
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 5 May 2013 13: 35
        +1
        Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye, this is because there are enough people in the power of underd.d. !!
    9. Tartary
      Tartary 4 May 2013 10: 01
      11
      Quote: vilenich
      The Germans will never forgive us for their defeat in the war!

      More precisely, every new generation of Germans will not forgive us the victory of our ancestors over their ancestors more and more, because the assessment is changing, and it seems to young people like "wow, we would have shown these Russians" ... Apostle stopudov the phrase stretches: * "well, nothing ... still ahead ..."

      What a pity they are, because all this is repeated time after time, and they still do not want to learn from multiple examples of history and precisely the examples of punishing their ancestors for a short memory ...
      1. VADIMKRSK
        VADIMKRSK 4 May 2013 17: 56
        0
        The Germans will not fight. Lazy, if only with the Turks when they get it ...
    10. Rus2012
      Rus2012 4 May 2013 10: 29
      17
      Quote: vilenich
      The Germans will never forgive us for their defeat in the war!

      Dear colleague, if everything was so simple ...

      Firstly, those who set Germans against Russians are friends with the devil. But in the twentieth century this happened more than once. Breaking the wise orders of Chancellor Bismarck. So this is no accident?

      Secondly, Europe has always from time to time in its history "freaked out", invading the borders of the Russians and forcing them to "reason" those who came down from the roofs ...
      Almost 70 years have passed since the last "flogging". Weirdos have forgotten, 3 generations have grown.

      Apparently they are beginning to beg again ...
      I do not call for "flogging" again ...
      And our people may have no strength for this anymore.
      But, one should remember the words of the old soldier's song:

      The path is far with us
      Have fun, soldier, look!
      Curling, regimental banner curling,
      Commanders are in front.

      Chorus:
      Soldiers, go, go, go ...
      And for you, dear,
      There is field mail.
      Goodbye, the pipe is calling.
      Soldiers, go camping!

      Every warrior is a brave guy
      Looks falcon in the ranks.
      Kindred ... we were related with glory,
      Glory gained in battle.

      Chorus.

      Let the enemies remember this -
      Do not threaten, but we say:
      We passed, half the world passed with you,
      If necessary, we repeat.


      The last verse of this song has not been sung in recent years, possibly due to political correctness.
      But you need to remember, he is ...
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 4 May 2013 11: 05
        +9
        Quote: Rus2012
        Let the enemies remember this - Do not threaten, but say: We have passed, passed with you half the world, If necessary - we will repeat.


      2. Tartary
        Tartary 4 May 2013 13: 48
        +6
        Quote: Rus2012

        Let the enemies remember this -
        Do not threaten, but we say:
        We passed, half the world passed with you,
        If necessary, we repeat.
        Chorus:
        Soldiers on the road, on the road, on the road,
        And for you, dear
        There is field mail.
        Get up - the pipe is calling!
        Soldiers, go camping!

        The last verse of this song has not been sung in recent years, possibly due to political correctness.
        But you need to remember, he is


        In 1984, marching, we always sang this verse ...

        And how can you not remember here -
        E.A. Yevtushenko, performed by M. Bernes
        Do Russian wars want to happen?
        Ask you for silence
        over the expanse of arable land and fields
        and birches and poplars.
        You will ask those soldiers,
        that under the birches lie
        and let their sons tell you
        do Russians want
        do Russians want
        Do the Russians want war.

        Not only for your country
        the soldiers died in that war
        and so that people of the whole earth
        could easily dream.
        Under the rustle of leaves and posters
        You sleep, New York, you sleep, Paris.
        May your dreams answer you
        do Russians want
        do Russians want
        Do the Russians want war.

        Yes, we know how to fight,
        but do not want to again
        soldiers fell in battle
        to his bitter earth.
        You will ask your mother,
        ask my wife
        and then you must understand
        do Russians want
        do Russians want
        Do the Russians want war.
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 5 May 2013 14: 07
          +2
          Prophetic words of Yevtushenko !!! A tear is coming! Drag lovers of someone else's whiskers !!! Now the revolutions will be until complete destruction! Tired of learning !!! (we won’t take prisoners) !!!
      3. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 5 May 2013 13: 55
        +2
        To the Germans reading these comments, wind up on a mustache (draw conclusions) only be friends with the Russians, otherwise it’s more expensive to yourself !!!! Forum users, this site is read by Germans and Amers, you need to tell them the true story, their brains are powdery, they need to tell the truth !!! Maybe they will be enlightened !!! After all, the farther, the less eyewitnesses !!!
        1. Raven1972
          Raven1972 6 May 2013 11: 03
          -1
          Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
          Forum users, this site is read by Germans and Amers, you need to tell them the true story, their brains are powdery, you need to tell the truth

          Exactly !!!!!!! But not only to Amers and Germans - their young ones will also not hurt to KNOW HOW IT WAS !!!!!!!!! soldier good good good
    11. skeptic
      skeptic 4 May 2013 11: 10
      +8
      Quote: vilenich
      The Germans will never forgive us for their defeat in the war!


      The Germans will never forgive us their defeats in the wars against RUSSIA. As well as the French, Swedes, Poles, Hungarians, etc. throughout Western Europe and the Wild West ...

      Well, they don’t understand that we need to come to the world. And they will be happy, and if ...
    12. Shawnee
      Shawnee 4 May 2013 12: 21
      +3
      Fragments of a movie with a Russian translation. Interestingly - in the Wehrmacht really trumped without a hat or the authors of the film just do not know elementary?
      1. smile
        smile 4 May 2013 16: 00
        +2
        Shawnee
        Yes, according to their charters, the presence of a headdress is not necessary for a military greeting.
      2. Sergey47
        Sergey47 4 May 2013 17: 12
        +3
        No, they did not trump. They just like Sabakashvili took an example from their masters. Apparently this craft is of such low quality that the authors did not pay attention to such trifles. If we rewrite history, then defame everything.
    13. Garrin
      Garrin 4 May 2013 13: 34
      +4
      Quote: vilenich
      The Germans will never forgive us for their defeat in the war!

      Do we really need their forgiveness? They should crawl in our lap! am
    14. AlexxxNik
      AlexxxNik 4 May 2013 13: 50
      +4
      Correct: Europeans
      Quote: vilenich
      we will never be forgiven for their defeat in the war!
    15. Gari
      Gari 4 May 2013 14: 20
      +5
      the second plan is to show from the most unsightly side the Russian soldiers who, according to the director, their only goal was the massive rape of German girls and women and the reprisals of the wounded in the hospitals they captured. Apparently, Kaldebach was also “impressed” by the speeches of Joseph Goebbels, who at one time depicted Soviet soldiers as “steppe scum” who go to Germany solely to rob, kill and rape.


      The Warrior-Liberator - a monument in Berlin Treptower Park

      The center of the composition is a bronze figure of a Soviet soldier standing on the wreckage of a swastika. A soldier holds a lowered sword in one hand, and the other supports a German girl he saved.


      The monument is located on the top of the bulk mound, a staircase leads to its pedestal. Inside the pedestal is a round memorial hall. The walls of the hall are decorated with mosaic panels (artist A.V. Gorpenko).

      The panel depicts representatives of different peoples, including the peoples of the Caucasus and Central Asia, laying wreaths at the grave of Soviet soldiers.

      Above their heads, in Russian and German, it is written: “Now everyone recognizes that the Soviet people, through their selfless struggle, saved the civilization of Europe from the fascist pogroms. This is the great merit of the Soviet people to the history of mankind ”
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 5 May 2013 14: 21
        +1
        Do the Germans go to that hall ?! Do they drive their children? And where is our counter propaganda? Mikhalkov's "masterpieces" do not count !!
    16. 4 platoon
      4 platoon 4 May 2013 15: 53
      +3
      my father had a star cut out on his chest, after the war he was a teacher, he never talked about the war, no matter how much he was asked.
    17. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 4 May 2013 16: 33
      +4
      I personally do not care! The Germans will forget their next defeat from RUSSIA or not !!! It is important that the Cold War does not come from the words of Cherchel, it has been going on for centuries, the West is always "lane" to the East, before because of the lands, now resources! And we need to raise children in the spirit of patriotism and love for the Motherland !!! And the media and TV are enemies of RUSSIA giving out anti-Russian propaganda !!!
    18. es.d
      es.d 4 May 2013 16: 49
      +1
      And where are the Germans?
    19. VADIMKRSK
      VADIMKRSK 4 May 2013 16: 49
      +5
      There were fewer wars with the Germans than with the Turks. Napoleon was fought together. We are pitted by the Anglo-Saxons. As always...
      1. antidote
        antidote 5 May 2013 15: 41
        +4
        I agree. Germany needs to be friends with us, we have both a sales market and energy sources. together with Germany we would be very strong, but the Anglo-Saxons are afraid of this. So they have been engaged in ideological sabotage for 200 years
    20. BARKAS
      BARKAS 4 May 2013 16: 56
      +5
      Quote: vilenich
      The Germans will never forgive us for their defeat in the war!

      I would clarify that the West will never forgive us that the USSR owes its freedom!
    21. FC SKIF
      FC SKIF 4 May 2013 17: 18
      +1
      Yes, that’s why there were cases of the murders of Soviet soldiers by undefeated fascists
    22. luka095
      luka095 4 May 2013 17: 28
      +2
      Let yourself be blamed. Nobody called them to us!
      We have enough of such Goebbels directors.
    23. Grey74
      Grey74 4 May 2013 17: 29
      +3
      Nothing wrong! just getting ready for another war. It's time!
    24. de klermon
      de klermon 4 May 2013 19: 47
      +3
      The Germans, okay, everything is clear with them and their European Holidays, but what can our "human rights activists" and our figures from "culture" not forgive us for? A relapse of Vlasovism?
      PS The paradox is that on the bones of our heroes the representatives of those nationalities and political convictions, with the destruction of which the Germans began in the event of the capture of a new territory for them !!!
    25. 120352
      120352 4 May 2013 21: 02
      +2
      Many cannot forgive this for us. Even the former allies, and most of all those whom we provided with industry after the war, creating signs of statehood.
    26. Nick
      Nick 4 May 2013 21: 50
      +3
      Quote: vilenich
      The Germans will never forgive us for their defeat in the war!

      Yes, drop it! We had excellent relations with the GDR, and with the FRG, in Brezhnev's times, we also spoke quite calmly. And why do we actually need to be forgiven? They did these things both in their own country and in Russia. We need to think about whether to forgive the Germans or not, for all the atrocities they have committed on our land, for the deaths of millions of our civilians and our soldiers.
    27. Konstantm
      Konstantm 4 May 2013 22: 39
      +3
      We have been to Berlin more than once !!!!
      Eternal praise to our ancestors.
      God bless us and our descendants, so that no one could visit Moscow!
    28. Dilshat
      Dilshat 5 May 2013 02: 41
      +1
      And I will never forgive them 27 million of my compatriots!
    29. Dilshat
      Dilshat 5 May 2013 02: 43
      0
      And I will never forgive the murder of 27 million compatriots!
    30. German
      German 5 May 2013 03: 05
      +3
      and who will forgive us for our defeat? We are for them "Russian barbarians" ... and they don't care what they regularly get on snotty, they can't calm down! It's not for nothing that such a thing as "masochism" came from the West. Can they rush when they are beaten? !!! wassat
    31. OCD
      OCD 5 May 2013 09: 15
      0
      We also have a good memory, do not forget anything. So let the hans not twitch.
    32. Sandov
      Sandov 5 May 2013 15: 36
      +2
      It would be better if the Germans did not forgive the Angles and Amers for Dresden. And to bring down a bad head to a healthy one, the West has already acquired a long tradition. Our radio needs to work west and bring the truth to their people.
    33. воронов
      воронов 5 May 2013 20: 20
      +1
      Quote: vilenich
      The Germans will never forgive us for their defeat in the war!

      Afro-“Germans”, Turkish-“Germans” don't give a damn, Russians- “Germans” are for us, and nobody else is interested in the opinion of the remaining minority laughing
    34. wow
      wow 6 May 2013 13: 15
      +2
      The fact that they will never forgive themselves for defeat in the war is their personal grief. Worse for them is that we will NEVER forgive Germany for its beginning! This is much worse for them.
    35. taseka
      taseka 7 May 2013 15: 57
      0
      German women, when the Soviet troops approached, drowned with their children — the unfortunate fell for the sake of Goebels propaganda — let the creators of this film drown themselves, for the sake of globalism propaganda, against Russia!
    36. prophetic
      prophetic 8 May 2013 20: 15
      0
      if our rulers would like to protect the honor of the country, they would have found justice for all these "directors" long ago. but they have no time, after all, they need to steal money Skolkovo, and destroy the army and education, and they do not care about the honor of the country. As our government treats Russia and the Russians, so do Geyropa and Americans
  2. Hudo
    Hudo 4 May 2013 08: 04
    15
    [i] [i] On March 2, 1945, in his diary, the Minister of Propaganda of the Third Reich J. Goebbels wrote: “... in fact, in the person of Soviet soldiers, we are dealing with steppe scum. This is confirmed by the information about atrocities that came to us from the eastern regions. They really cause horror. They cannot even be reproduced separately. First of all, mention should be made of the terrible documents that came from Upper Silesia. In individual villages and cities, all women from ten to 70 years of age have suffered countless rape. It seems that this is done by order from above, since an explicit system can be seen in the behavior of the Soviet soldier. Against this we will now launch a broad campaign within the country and abroad ”[/ i [/ i]


    This ugly face!]

    Who would doubt who the real scriptwriter and director of these dirty libels is.
    1. krokodil25
      krokodil25 4 May 2013 08: 57
      27
      The noisiest propaganda campaign about millions of Germans raped by Soviet soldiers is explained very simply. Blaming the Soviet troops for the massacres of peaceful Germans in the occupied territory is an obviously losing idea, because after the murder there is material evidence - a corpse. And after the massacres, mass graves, such as, for example, Babi Yar near Kiev. But there are no such graves in Germany!
      However, it is somehow necessary to carry out a political order to blacken the memory of Soviet soldiers. Here they’ll take off all x ... y! angry am
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 4 May 2013 09: 04
        15
        Quote: krokodil25
        And after the massacres, mass graves, such as, for example, Babi Yar near Kiev. But there are no similar graves in Germany

        In order to understand this, we need brains, and if they are washed daily, then nothing will remain of the brain.
      2. El13
        El13 4 May 2013 13: 31
        +7
        crocodil25, it looks like you have found the most correct explanation.
        I really liked the surname of the Norwegian fantastical writer Nesbo, if you read it in reverse, everything falls into place and the "occupation" of Norway does not look like something impossible ... laughing
    2. Yazov
      Yazov 4 May 2013 09: 53
      +3
      His erysipelas is scum, that's for sure. Brick to smack a little!
    3. omsbon
      omsbon 4 May 2013 10: 24
      +3
      Quote: Hudo
      Who would doubt who the real scriptwriter and director of these dirty libels is.

      It's a shame that before our eyes, there are domestic libelists who foaming at the mouth are proving Gebels's "truth". First of all, these are bitches such as Mlechin, Svanidze, etc.
      Separately, I want to say that I consider the writer A. Salzhenitsina, a very mediocre writer and embittered man.
      1. VADIMKRSK
        VADIMKRSK 4 May 2013 18: 15
        0
        You’ll be a little embittered, having experienced so much. And he was not trying to be a fiction writer. Documentary ... Keeper of Facts ...
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 5 May 2013 14: 40
          0
          But the facts must be consistent, he survived a lot and he isn’t alone! But to live in the West, it’s just ...... And yet, according to him, everyone was creating Russians and not words about Chekist Jews, as if they and was not in nature! And the Jews did not make a revolution !!!
        2. Azzzwer
          Azzzwer 5 May 2013 22: 43
          +1
          Quote: VADIMKRSK
          he was not a fiction writer. Documentary
          sorry for the count it is impossible ....
        3. Raven1972
          Raven1972 6 May 2013 11: 15
          -1
          How long did this solGunicin survive? This issue has already been repeatedly discussed and analyzed on our website ... Already his description of happiness from a CLEAN chamber with a spring bed while his colleagues knead the dirt at the front nullifies all his "suffering" So let's not talk about this sufferer .... am
    4. albai
      albai 4 May 2013 19: 42
      0
      Quote: Hudo
      This ugly face!]
      And what a real "Aryan" his mother .....
    5. sscha
      sscha 5 May 2013 12: 59
      0
      Against this we will now launch a broad campaign within the country and abroad ”[/ i [/ i]


      This "broad campaign" continues both domestically and abroad!
      And its roots are clear! The simple truth that states (people) that do not remember their history are doomed to walk in circles in a dark room, constantly stepping on their own - the same "rake" is available to everyone, but not "like them" .....
      Sad ... Sorry for the old Europe ... hi
    6. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 5 May 2013 14: 31
      +1
      From this it follows that God forbid, if you have to! Do not take prisoners, destroy all at the root !!!
  3. domokl
    domokl 4 May 2013 08: 05
    15
    Alexey is right. All more and more base dirt spills onto people's heads. If earlier those who actually saw and participated in that massacre were still alive, they held some kind of posts in governments, in institutions, but now this obligation has fallen on us.
    On a military review, there are representatives of most European countries, the United States and in general we are international. So our opinion is also international and they will hear it.
    You need to say scum that she scum, you need to protect our Victory and the honor of our ancestors-winners
  4. Zomanus
    Zomanus 4 May 2013 08: 06
    14
    Eh, maybe I’ll say it harshly ... If our warrior-liberators would fuck all Germans all over, such shit would not have degenerated now, here.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 4 May 2013 08: 11
      11
      Quote: Zomanus
      Eh, maybe I’ll say it harshly ... If our warrior-liberators would fuck all Germans all over, such shit would not have degenerated now, here.


      It may be less, but the fact is that our ancestors, the warrior-liberators, turned out to be the most ordinary Russian people completely sadistic towards sadism. And they did this most often
      [img]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1JbvhCX27bTnefdOWIO3
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    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 4 May 2013 08: 14
      19
      Quote: Zomanus
      . If our warrior-liberators had fucked all the Germans all over, such shit would not have degenerated now, here.

      In my opinion, EVERYTHING that happens in Germany on this occasion is a flaw in our Foreign Ministry and government. Germany is guilty of the deaths of more than 30 million of our compatriots and now, after 000 years, it is being produced. If something like this had been removed or brought into the textbooks about Jews in Germany, then the noise would have spread throughout the world.
      And we swallow frank spit. Maybe now gas projects are more important to our leadership than how our soldiers are presented. If so then .... I have no comments.
      1. Pule
        Pule 4 May 2013 08: 43
        15
        Mr. Lenin predicted world imperialism and the rule of transnational companies. Not the Germans fought with Russia, but the Nazis (German, Italian, Romanian, Hungarian, Baltic, Ukrainian ...). And now the propaganda against Russia is not German, but transcorporate. Russia must boil in its boiler and not crawl out into the world. For which the imperialists sent Hitler to the East in the 39th.
      2. Genur
        Genur 4 May 2013 10: 11
        +5
        I completely agree with Alexander. Not only our shortcomings, and sometimes, connivance with flirting with German "friends" contributes to the fact that THEY also shit on us.
      3. stroporez
        stroporez 5 May 2013 09: 24
        +1
        for such a reproach, the best comment ---- steel ..........
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  6. svp67
    svp67 4 May 2013 08: 09
    14
    While on our screens such "truthful" films about the war as "Penal Battalion", "Bastards" and the like, shot by us will appear, we ourselves will give reason and hope to all revanchists ...
    1. Alexander Petrovich
      Alexander Petrovich 4 May 2013 09: 05
      +7
      So the fact of the matter is that the Cold War is left behind “Who told you that?” Absolute fallacy, the Cold War is the term of the confrontation coined in the 20th century that has been going on for a thousand years, if not more.
    2. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 4 May 2013 11: 55
      +6
      Aha with Nikita Mikhalkov and start, in the furnace of a reptile!
      1. El13
        El13 4 May 2013 13: 39
        +6
        Yeah, I also don’t like this know-it-all, but I always considered his brother to be more restrained, and then I read an interview with this Konchalovsky this afternoon and realized that he was no better - how can you hate your people so much that you really wanted to share it.
        1. VADIMKRSK
          VADIMKRSK 4 May 2013 18: 26
          +3
          The master of slaves teaches. And they live wrong again. Something is wrong ... Not right ... Batogami?
        2. Azzzwer
          Azzzwer 5 May 2013 22: 51
          +2
          Quote: El13
          and here recently on RBC I read an interview with this Konchalovsky and realized that he was no better - how can you hate your people so much

          can you reference? to let enemy machinations!
          1. El13
            El13 6 May 2013 11: 44
            0
            Can:
            http://top.rbc.ru/viewpoint/30/04/2013/856341.shtml

            A huge request: to express my opinion here, I want to determine for myself whether I interpreted his statements correctly.
  7. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 4 May 2013 08: 16
    +9
    Dr. Goebbels was very active in terms of scattering his seed, and I have the impression that all these directors went from him.
  8. Zomanus
    Zomanus 4 May 2013 08: 17
    +8
    So I already wrote. There is no ideology, there is an owner who pays money. And everyone is dancing to the tune of this owner. So we can put the owners of the coast? I think that the amers would have ruined the producers and other huskies that took part in vyser like "Burnt by the Sun" about the United States.
  9. shinobi
    shinobi 4 May 2013 08: 22
    10
    Germany was an empire before the First World War. It sought to become an empire in the Second World War. Germany continues to consider itself a European leader, de facto it is, will seek to become an empire in the European part of the continent again. The film is a classic example of custom-made propaganda in the style of the Cold War. And the stronger it will be Russia is becoming the more they will appear around the world. The third world, also the first information, is in full swing. The West, having destroyed the USSR, won a tactical advantage but calmed down on this. But in vain. With the departure from politics of people who grew up during the Cold War, Merkel, for example, the West is losing the tactical advantage in this invisible war.
  10. fenix57
    fenix57 4 May 2013 08: 26
    +7
    "Continuing the conversation that in a number of Western countries it is becoming increasingly popular to expose Russia as the main world monster.. "- have they ever written (made a movie) anything positive about Russia, except, of course, the Gorbo-Yeltsen times ... Let THEM ...WE KNOW THE TRUTH!
    " So the fact of the matter is that the Cold War is left behind .."- I cannot agree with this, - this war continues and there is no end in sight (it may not be so obvious, but no less cold ..) hi
    Remind Suvorov: "Learn military affairs in a real way!" - let them be afraid:
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta 4 May 2013 09: 33
      17
      Quote: fenix57
      Learn military affairs in this way!


      Serving Russia!
      1. krasin
        krasin 4 May 2013 12: 36
        -2
        Zhenya is like everyone else, demoted and demoted, just lived to the foreman and lowered again. Unfair! I sympathize. Like the oldest member of the site! soldier
  11. Renat
    Renat 4 May 2013 08: 26
    +9
    I think that after the Patriotic War of 1812 something like this kind of distortion of history also happened. After all, our Army has gone all over Europe. In this case, we have only one way out. This is the education of our own offspring. After all, our ancestors were able to preserve the bright memory of the Russian warrior - liberator in past centuries.
    1. gladysheff2010
      gladysheff2010 4 May 2013 12: 46
      +4
      Yes! Here are just the cluttering of our territory by immigrants from the same Western Ukraine who, earning money from us, are not shy (the younger generation) to call us occupiers, and the USSR is not called otherwise than the period of occupation, and even immigrants from former fraternal republics that actively breed in big cities and those who want to send their religious cult, regardless of traditions and foundations. This is an expansionist policy of the corrupt part of the official people, and until they, the bureaucrats who are presumptuous, will not be actively opposed at the state level by the articles: betrayal and subversive activity, we will observe such demarches both within the country and beyond its borders.
    2. stroporez
      stroporez 6 May 2013 10: 45
      +1
      Quote: Renat
      we have only one way out. This is the education of our own offspring.

      --- Golden words. until there are people who understand this ---- Russia cannot be broken ........
  12. nikolas 83
    nikolas 83 4 May 2013 08: 28
    +6
    How quickly the Western world forgets the truth. It's a shame. Our fathers and grandfathers shed blood, didn’t spare their lives, freed Europe from fascism. And now they rewrite history everywhere, they think that the USA won the war and the Soviet soldier almost occupies Europe. They distort the image of the Soviet soldier as they want.
    1. Renat
      Renat 4 May 2013 08: 37
      +7
      Not that they forget. It’s just that they don’t really like it. Another resentment for the lost war. They have long been digitized people. What the signal transmitted in that vector, the brain and works.
    2. wax
      wax 4 May 2013 10: 41
      +3
      It’s even more insulting that our overhaul of perestroika is forgotten. To effectively step outside, you must effectively understand inside.
      1. VADIMKRSK
        VADIMKRSK 4 May 2013 19: 04
        0
        Outside, only power is understood. The Germans seem to understand serious people. And pugs and jackals - a kick in the face!
  13. family tree
    family tree 4 May 2013 08: 40
    11
    Against the background of the plot about the "adventures" of German friends on the Eastern Front, the author’s intention clearly shows off from the most ugly side of the Russian soldiers who, according to the director, their only goal was the massive rape of German girls and women and the reprisals of the wounded in the hospitals they captured . Apparently, and Caldebach "impressed" with the speeches of Joseph Goebbels,

    They lost weight there completely (without p and d)? Whose cow would moo
    from the Nuremberg rape trial - short translation
    "In the Ukrainian village of Borodaevka, Dnepropetrovsk region, the Nazis raped all women and girls. In the village of Berezovka, Smolensk region, drunken German soldiers raped all women and girls from 16 to 30 years old. In the city of Smolensk, an officer's brothel was opened by the German command in one of the hotels, where hundreds of women and the girls were dragged along the asphalt by their hair and hands ... In the city of Lemberg (Lvov), 32 female workers of the Lvov garment factory were raped and then shot in front of the assault troops. Drunk German soldiers dragged Lviv girls and young women to Kosciuszko park to rape brutally.
    In the village of Semenovskoye, Kalinin Region, the Germans tied and raped 25-year-old Olga Tikhonova, the wife of the Red Army, the mother of 3 children, who was in the last stages of pregnancy.
    Now the Lviv authorities are going to grieve on May 9, over the fact that these rapists multiplied by zero.
    Historian from Bremen Barbara Johr
    Wehrmacht bordellos (55 during the war) and SS officer brothels were created for soldiers and officers, in which hundreds of Polish and Russian girls and women were forced into prostitution (Jewish women were officially not accepted in brothels since March 1942). The captured partisans were tattooed "Hitler's whore" and were treated accordingly. Forced prostitution and rape were common in KC (concentration camps). The victims of coercion and rape were predominantly female prisoners. The systematic rapes by the German invaders prove the documents that were presented in 1946 at the Nuremberg trials "....
    1. VADIMKRSK
      VADIMKRSK 4 May 2013 19: 15
      +1
      The law of war ... Germans in age are a little ashamed, and young people ... They are afraid to fight with the Turks. A little bit to bite the Russian bear who just does not try.
      1. Raven1972
        Raven1972 6 May 2013 11: 29
        0
        Quote: VADIMKRSK
        A little bit to bite the Russian bear who just does not try.

        They just forget that one day the bear will wake up and comb all under one comb - both the right and the guilty .... soldier
  14. isp96
    isp96 4 May 2013 08: 58
    10
    It seems to me that Europeans simply look away from their problems, transferring cilia to Russia. How many years have passed between the Patriotic War of 1812 and 1941? Well, in the meantime, soon there will be guests who are not invited again.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 4 May 2013 09: 06
      12
      Quote: Isr96
      how many years have passed between the Patriotic War of 1812 and 1941? just now, in the course of coming soon, we will again expect guests not invited.

      There is a lot of land in Russia, for all the guests the churchyard will be crowded, how many have already rotted here.
    2. VADIMKRSK
      VADIMKRSK 4 May 2013 19: 26
      +2
      They won’t go. The gut is thin. That's from the side of Islam ... overpopulation. Will they clutch among themselves for the redistribution of oil, Israel, the USA, Europe?
  15. Humpty
    Humpty 4 May 2013 09: 03
    15
    "Our moms, our dads." So the unfinished Nazis screamed.
    My mother once said, even though I had German girlfriends, I can’t help myself, the older I get, the more I hate Germans.
    I have been working with Germans and Austrians every summer for 11 years, I can say with confidence that only once I saw an obvious admirer of the Nazis, for which he (Italian Tyrolean) did not get sick from the Munich German in the face.
    I think that the Germans from Washington are prompted with what and how to shoot. And their s.u.k. the Germans are also full, once wrote in the comments that in the newspaper of our Jewish emigrants in Germany, they hung up responsibility for the Holocaust and directly stated this without any argument.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 4 May 2013 09: 25
      +6
      Quote: Humpty
      I’ve been working with Germans and Austrians every summer for 11 years, I can say with confidence that only once I saw a clear admirer of the Nazis,

      But you don’t know, do they tell in textbooks how many villages in the USSR their soldiers burned together with people? Is it precisely about such things that they go to school?
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 4 May 2013 09: 41
        13
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Humpty
        I’ve been working with Germans and Austrians every summer for 11 years, I can say with confidence that only once I saw a clear admirer of the Nazis,

        But you don’t know, do they tell in textbooks how many villages in the USSR their soldiers burned together with people? Is it precisely about such things that they go to school?

        I did not read their filthy textbooks. But the bombed train with refugees, where all my mother’s relatives died except her mother, my grandmother and her father — my grandfather, the medical assistant who was crucified, shot and stabbed to death, I cannot forgive.
        1. VADIMKRSK
          VADIMKRSK 4 May 2013 19: 33
          +2
          NOT forgotten and not forgiven. A reminder striped with their bombing. Already comes around.
    2. Renat
      Renat 4 May 2013 17: 31
      +4
      The Germans also work for us (they service the equipment). So, for a long time they have been repeating that it was not the people but the politicians who started the war, and that the common people, too, didn’t really die in the battlefields for whoever they fought. In some ways, they are still right. War begins politicians merchants and just scoundrels and completely insuring themselves against possible death. And on the battlefields ordinary people must die. This by and large applies to both sides of the front. War is bad. War is death. War is a rebound of mankind decades ago. This should be understood by ordinary people, those who, if something happens, stand under arms and kill each other for the sake of someone. For the sake of whom it is beneficial. For the sake of the one who is now trying to demonize a Soviet soldier, and start a new world, completely protecting himself from all the consequences.
      1. Containers
        Containers 5 May 2013 13: 06
        +2
        War, unfortunately, is the most powerful engine of progress. During WWII there was a giant leap in all areas of applied science - chemistry, physics, medicine. I really would not want progress at that cost.
      2. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 5 May 2013 15: 23
        +2
        It’s not the politicians who start the war, but the Zionist money bags from the Fed and Wall Street, the whole problem is the thirst for profit, by any means, and they will stop at nothing !!! Only a humpbacked pit will fix !!! Only a pit with an aspen stake !!!
  16. avant-garde
    avant-garde 4 May 2013 09: 03
    12
    my advice to you uv. well-wishers of foreigners, do not wake the half-sleeping beast until the end !!! Even too much, you have recently begun to piss from the fact that Russia is a mother out of hibernation.
  17. Ivan
    Ivan 4 May 2013 09: 19
    10
    This is the result of "our love for everything western." already in the Russian Federation a generation has grown up who are ready to believe Western propaganda and serve Uncle Sam by faith. And so in Russian, "how many wolf do not feed ..." It's too late to drink Borjomi .. Remember the 90s when our media presented us and our citizens in the image barbarian and it was dishonorable to call himself a citizen of the Russian Federation and live on "wooden" rubles, but now suddenly he saw the light. There were people who were ready to lease the territory of the Russian Federation to the United States and live on these means. Forgot all this abomination, right? And as a result, such films and books , materials in the media. And the so-called fifth column is ready and now to ditch the country, constantly putting pressure on the minds of the population, mind that they are not free. So there is nothing new in the author's article, it was worth waiting for the main soil both in the West and in our country.
  18. crazy_fencer
    crazy_fencer 4 May 2013 09: 19
    +9
    "... the offensive carried with it the yoke of Stalinism. Along with it went robbery, violence and official terror in frightening proportions. Those who saw this could no longer forget. As the defeated German formations rolled back, wave after wave of the liberators rolled over First, there were front-line units, disciplined, well-outfitted and armed to the teeth, then auxiliary units and punitive battalions, which had plenty of ammunition, but no food. Then the NKVD cordons rolled in their unusual uniforms and in American jeeps, they shot everyone who stopped in the offensive.Finally, there were Asian hordes, endless reinforcements, traveling on whatever was possible to the west - on broken trucks, requisitioned peasant carts, on ponies, even on camels Contrast between tired German soldiers with red eyes and bandages and whole truck my fresh guys with Slavic and Asian faces was more than expressive "

    Norman Davis. "History of Europe". M., 2005, p. 771.

    This is about the big anti-Russian propaganda. Or information war, whoever likes it. The author, which is characteristic, is an Englishman. "British scientist", yeah. Published in Moscow. Publishing house AST Transitkniga. I think that the people should know their heroes well, at least a little. They translated it from afar.
    As for the question about the film ... I remembered an interesting thing. Quite a long time ago. Everyone remembers this French movie "The Old Gun"? Well, yes, with Philippe Noiret in the title role? The French there suddenly remembered some of the arts of the Germans. Quietly hinting that they hadn't forgotten Oradour-sur-Glane either. In St. Petersburg, at one time (in 1976, God forbid, remember) its premiere began at the Leningrad cinema. And nearby is the German consulate. And suddenly the film was abruptly removed from the rental. Then, after a week, however, they resume. Why was the show suddenly interrupted? And the consulate of the Federal Republic of Germany, you see, an official protest in Smolny declared: how is it, they say, we dare to release such a monstrous French lie about white and fluffy SS men on screens. The then leadership of the regional committee, headed by comrade. G.V. Romanov had already arrived at that time, and instead of sending this consulate immediately to the address where he should have gone, "just in case" a film was shot from a wide screen for a week. Until the clarification, so to speak ... And the film went again only after an overbearing roar from Moscow was heard in Smolny.
    So I remembered this story in connection with only one consideration: as long as mediocrity from their own power will obsequiously react to any antics on the part of "enlightened Europe" (the degree of its "enlightenment" is easy to assess from the same quote from Norman Davis) , Russia will lose all information wars.
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      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 4 May 2013 09: 28
        +1
        Corrected.
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  19. Internal combustion engine
    Internal combustion engine 4 May 2013 09: 20
    10
    As the song says: "So that you are not lost on Earth, try not to lose yourself!" If our government, including the president, respected our mother Russia, then there would be no such inclinations in the world. For example, let us recall Nicholas the First: "If a theatrical production mocking Russia is not canceled in Paris, I will send a million spectators there in gray greatcoats and they will sanctify it."
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 4 May 2013 10: 29
      11
      Quote: ICE
      For example, let us recall Nicholas the First: "If a theatrical production mocking Russia is not canceled in Paris, I will send a million spectators there in gray greatcoats and they will sanctify it."


      And in general, there is no other way to put human beings in their place. True, recently, with the rulers of the level of Nicholas I, there is an acute shortage.
      1. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn 4 May 2013 11: 57
        +3
        with the rulers of the level of Nicholas I, there is an acute shortage.

        What can you do? A crisis request
  20. ImPerts
    ImPerts 4 May 2013 09: 25
    +8
    I will not recall the saying of Alexander III, everyone remembers it anyway. But there is a much bigger problem - the 5th column. Here we have already recalled the "honest" directors who shot "Penal Battalion", "Bastards", "Burnt by the Sun", etc.
    Everyone heard about "4 days in May", and who looked (did not expect this from Guskov). The film is supposedly based on real events. According to X, who heard from Y, who in turn knew Z, who read the report. A. Isaev, following all this, wrote:
    "PS About Fost. As it turned out in a private conversation, he wrote about the" brotherhood in arms "on Rügen out of mega-geopolitical considerations: you have to put up with the Germans, create a Berlin-Moscow-Beijing axis. That is, not like a glove."
    Everything seems to be correct, but there is sediment. I won't talk about directing or acting ... The sediment remained. And some "pseudo-historians" will refer to the film and its prehistory as a historical fact. Not to mention the youth, who will not understand and will simply accept everything as historical truth.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 4 May 2013 10: 42
      +7
      Quote: ImPerts
      And some "pseudo-historians" will refer to the film and its prehistory as a historical fact.

      They hung the same brand "Foreign agent" of various kinds of evil spirits devouring from Russian bins and spoiling there. So it would not be bad to create a public council, in which to include only veterans and persons with military awards --- watched in the presence of the "creators", the council issued a verdict that the "creation" of an affter-liberal does not correspond to reality and a film with obligatory captions is released in a third of the screen "The film has no historical justification for itself, and is a complete false canoe."

      PS. Yes, in general, it is immoral to deprive veterans of the opportunity to spit in the face of the creators of "penal battalions" or cut with a knotty crutch through the sleek physicality of the master Nikita Mikhalkov for the nasty things they shoot.
      1. ImPerts
        ImPerts 4 May 2013 14: 10
        +5
        Nothing ...
        1. ImPerts
          ImPerts 4 May 2013 15: 57
          +1
          I get it. Mikhalkov for minusers is really a saint.
  21. Delink
    Delink 4 May 2013 09: 36
    +4
    They know how to clean their brains. And this happens systematically, to be remembered and remembered. Russophobia is a nightmare after taking drugs and widening the anus in Geyrop. And for clerks, this is a Klondike.
  22. artist-mamluk
    artist-mamluk 4 May 2013 09: 41
    +5
    As my grandfather said, the kingdom of heaven to him, a veteran of the Second World War, - spring will show who and where shit. You just need to score, for all this bastard. Time will return everything to its place.
  23. aleksandr.k
    aleksandr.k 4 May 2013 10: 08
    +6
    Yes, let these Euro-homosexuals continue to hate us Russians, soon the Arabs will give them a delay.
  24. pamero
    pamero 4 May 2013 10: 19
    +6
    We must prepare our children and not abandon them. Otherwise these "lambs of God" will come to Our land with a knife and brass knuckles, and who will protect people again? children svim brains to set, and opening the mouth to look like they have there. They have the law on same-sex marriages I accept, Sodom and Gomorrah have been forgotten according to the scriptures! Non-Christians That will come to plant their new law.
  25. PValery53
    PValery53 4 May 2013 10: 22
    +5
    Our "democracy" allows us to make traitorous films that tarnish the blessed memory of the heroes of the war. Russian participants in such films should be called to criminal responsibility. Or are they afraid of yapping from the West? - Atu them!
    1. Proud.
      Proud. 4 May 2013 13: 06
      +3
      Yesterday I watched the trailer for the film "Stalingrad", Bondarchuk. The trailer was announced in English, with an English-language song, although there are Russian subtitles. I am inclined to assume that this film was filmed, first of all, for the "allies", but not for Us. We will see in the fall.
  26. Ivan
    Ivan 4 May 2013 10: 23
    17
    May 6th gay opposition parade, let them meet
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 5 May 2013 15: 38
      +1
      With what slogan will the opposition come out, and why not with all the people of May 9. Do they separate themselves from the people? Well, if so, then they must be kicked out of the COUNTRY, they themselves say that they are not ours! Get them then !!!
      1. Raven1972
        Raven1972 6 May 2013 11: 54
        -1
        Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
        Well, if so, then they must be kicked out of the COUNTRY, they themselves say that they are not ours! Get them then !!!

        No, Alexander, I disagree))) We need to send them to the "elite" villages in the Urals and Siberia, behind high fences with thorns and guards with cornflower-blue shoulder straps shooting without warning ... We have enough uranium mines and GOKs, picks, crowbars and there are shovels, and the output rate is 500% ... And let them work for our good without the right of amnesty, since they are not ours, then there is no need to feel sorry for them ... hi
  27. lm_
    lm_ 4 May 2013 10: 31
    +6
    Quote: vilenich
    The Germans will never forgive us for their defeat in the war!

    There will still be time, and the opinion of the Germans will not interest anyone ...
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 4 May 2013 12: 46
      +9
      In all cities, they will hang "STALINGRAD" in all cities - so that they would be afraid at the genetic level
  28. vadson
    vadson 4 May 2013 10: 34
    +6
    the cold war continues, only an economic factor, a demographic factor, and a whole bunch of factors mixed in with it. yesterday there was an article about May 9 and western Ukraine, for me the situation there is very similar to the European one. by plucking an external created enemy, they are trying to distract the people, most of them, from economic problems.
    we have similar moments - remember Medvedev with his initiative for winter and summer time, and this is the activity of the government during the crisis? laughter, it’s necessary to work, and they just powder people’s head and dream about privatization 2.0. on the utilities generally scored.
    the USSR had a good invention against this dirt - the Iron Curtain, the Iron Ideology, a powerful army and the military industrial complex. and were afraid and respected, and now?
  29. VDV 80-82
    VDV 80-82 4 May 2013 10: 37
    +9
    Yes, no revenge on the part of the Germans and other geyropeytsev out of the question ... recently read an article ... somewhere in the internet ... it says how in Afghanistan a small gang of Taliban dispersed a whole company of German soldiers fully armed)) ))) ... and in the same article, data is presented that the level of the male hormone testosterone in modern Germans is reduced by 40 times !!! compared to the Germans of 1940 ... I am not a scientist and can’t answer for the numbers ... but the fact that they are stoned ... it's true!
    1. antidote
      antidote 5 May 2013 15: 50
      +1
      Would give a link to the article
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 5 May 2013 15: 51
      +1
      In 68m the Germans were normal, the Czechs were kept below the line, who was the one to confirm! 40 times, that's a lot! But if you judge football, then not everyone has it reduced !!!!
  30. Dimy4
    Dimy4 4 May 2013 10: 39
    +5
    The insanity of the upheaval of history reached such a degree that the teenager first thought for a long time to the question "Who won the war of 1812?" Then he answered so questioningly ... "Americans?"
    1. krokodil25
      krokodil25 4 May 2013 10: 47
      +5
      Quote: Dimy4
      The insanity of the upheaval of history reached such a degree that the teenager first thought for a long time to the question "Who won the war of 1812?" Then he answered so questioningly ... "Americans?"

      Yes, it’s not from turning history over, but stupidly not knowing that the 90s didn’t pass without a trace, plus the current system of education No.
      1. VADIMKRSK
        VADIMKRSK 4 May 2013 20: 06
        +1
        The elder is a second grader. Doing homework together. Fuck him Japanese poetry, sophisticated algorithms, English - at least with Russian and mathematics. I don’t understand anything in the new textbooks. There is no clock on the history.
      2. Cynic
        Cynic 5 May 2013 16: 16
        +1
        Quote: krokodil25
        current systemоknowledge

        Well, apparently, and the previous one did not disappoint!
  31. Dimy4
    Dimy4 4 May 2013 10: 45
    +5
    And with tolerance, Europeans cover up ordinary cowardice in front of Arabs and blacks ... oh sorry African-Americans. Because those or a pogrom or a terrorist attack can overpower.
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 4 May 2013 16: 27
      +1
      Quote: Dimy4
      blacks ... oh sorry african american

      Well, this is in America, but what about Africa? African Africans?
      1. Dimy4
        Dimy4 4 May 2013 18: 08
        +2
        But certainly European blacks have no definitive term! Not tolerant, it turns out you have to invent!
    2. VADIMKRSK
      VADIMKRSK 4 May 2013 20: 13
      +1
      We were invited to work and thought back away! Yeah! They will demand more and more. Strength and fertility. Russia also concerns ...
  32. Ivan
    Ivan 4 May 2013 10: 45
    0
    Watch and listen to it
    1. Ivan
      Ivan 4 May 2013 13: 11
      0
      Something does not work for me to insert a video player. Tell me how ....
  33. il grand casino
    il grand casino 4 May 2013 11: 06
    0
    Maybe I understand German very badly (I watched the film in German), but in my opinion the Germans are rotten in the film just themselves ... but the main idea of ​​the film is: "someone has to finish it all ..." say "Russian" woman ...
    1. Aleksys2
      Aleksys2 4 May 2013 11: 19
      +3
      Quote: il grand casino
      Maybe I understand German very poorly (I watched the film in German), but in my opinion the Germans are rotten in the film just themselves ... but the main idea of ​​the film is: "someone has to finish it all ..." says the "Russian" woman ...

      I looked in translation. The film is far from straightforward. One of the heroes of the film says: "At 41 we went to Russia as heroes, and now in 1943 we are simple murderers." The film is not about "the atrocities of the Red Army" (about 5 minutes of this was filmed out of three episodes), but about the horrors of war.
      Regarding the Polish partisans, more precisely AK (Army of Craiova):
      Craiova’s army treated the Jews as a pro-Soviet element. AK’s hostility to Jewish units was the norm, help or at least a tolerant attitude towards Jews from individual partisan commanders was an exception. In general, as a result of the actions of the AK and the forces subordinate to it, approximately the same number of Jews hiding in the forests died as at the hands of the Nazis. On 15 of September 1943, the new commander of the AK, General T. Komorowski, issued Order No. 116 “On Combating Banditry,” which was interpreted by local commanders as permission to act against Jewish troops.
      In the Lublin Voivodeship, a detachment of 60 Jews liberated in the autumn of 1942 from the Yaniszow labor camp by fighters of the Guard Lyudova detachment was destroyed by AK.
      In February of the 1943 in Kielce Voivodeship, fighters of the AK detachment, on the orders of the command, opened fire on members of a Jewish underground organization who had fled from the Jewish labor camp in the town of Ostrovets ентwiętokrzyski in the eastern region of Kielce. They killed 15 of 17 Jews, the rest managed to escape.
      In September 1943 in the Kielce region, AK guerrillas shot seven partisans from the detachment of S. Khanyz and B. Gevirtzman (4 Jews, Russian and 2 Poles), sent to recapture the livestock surrendered by the peasants from the Germans. This incident marked the beginning of the AK war against the detachment of S. Khanyz and B. Gevirtsman, consisting of Jews who fled from the Czestochowa ghetto. At the end of 1943, when part of the Gevirtsman group was in the house of a peasant friendly to the detachment, AK soldiers surrounded the house. They beat the Jews and surrendered them to the Germans.
      In the Warsaw Voivodeship, Jewish partisan detachments arose in the forests in the Wyszków region (which were the base of the AK). One of them was a detachment of them. Mordechai Anelevich, consisting of former participants in the uprising in the Warsaw ghetto. This led to a complication of relations between AK and Jews despite the cooperation agreement previously concluded in Warsaw between AK leadership and EBO leadership. AK propaganda among the peasants was reflected in the supply of the detachment to them. M. Anelevich food. Squad them. M. Anelevich was divided into three teams, but soon one team was destroyed in battle with the AK detachment.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 4 May 2013 11: 43
        +8
        Quote: Aleksys2
        Regarding the Polish partisans, more precisely AK (Army of Craiova):

        In 1944-1945, when SMERSH was catching the last AKovtsev in the forests, who did monstrous abominations no worse than the SS (didn't they learn from them?) Against the local population, our officers, out of respect for the remnants of insignia on the uniform of these bandits, simply shot them, instead to "pull up" on the near birch ....
  34. Dart weyder
    Dart weyder 4 May 2013 11: 07
    +5
    insanity grew stronger, and there is no limit to it ... as in a fairy tale - the farther - the more terrible ... although you need to start with yourself if a lot of people in the country have their own history, they make such crappy films - for which it would be necessary for the whole country spit, and not be silent .... - what can we say about others .... look at VKontakte there is a group of degradants http://vk.com/anime_vs_veteran - I was shocked....
    1. COBOK
      COBOK 5 May 2013 00: 45
      +1
      This is just a fuck ... c. I threw a link to the president. I will see how the GDP (more precisely, its administration) will respond
  35. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 4 May 2013 11: 11
    +8
    Director Philippe Kaldebach decided to present the German people “his truth about the war” in the form of the film “Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter”.
    It was, it is, and it will be until the Russian Federation as a state reaches the same level of respect from the rest of the world as the USSR was on.
    The German is not original in his desire to defraud our country, our history, our people.
    And the Poles have a sin to complain - this "creation" is quite "consonant" with theirs "Katyn". But now the Polish "lovers" of WWII history have fallen into their own trap.
    In this situation, it would be nice to create Part 2 of "Ordinary Fascism" from M. Romm. Without cuts, without looking back at the former friends in the socialist camp (I'm talking about the Hungarians-sadists), dates-executioners and others like them.
    It's time for all civilized mankind to recognize the "heroes" of the Second World War.
    There is no need to hide in the storerooms photos and film documents about what sadists and scoundrels of all stripes and nationalities were doing on the territory of the USSR, starting from the first days of the German occupation of Western Ukraine and the Baltic States, where local nationalists literally outstripped the Germans in their desire to kill, shoot and burn alive all who did not pass, by definition, as a native local resident, when in just a couple of days all the Jews were destroyed. And when the Jews "ran out", the turn of other "non-indigenous" nationalities came. And that was just the beginning ...
  36. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 4 May 2013 11: 18
    +5
    ... Europe is torn to pieces by completely different problems, completely different threats to modern European society.

    Everything is true in Europe now there are problems that have not existed for a long time, as they say: what they fought for and ran into. And the European Union understands this perfectly well that the problem (the European Union) that they themselves have created must be solved. But when solving the problem, one will have to admit that they missed somewhere and the roots of this blunder lie in the XX century, when Hitler was already trying to create a "united Europe" under his rule, it will be necessary to admit that as then they were defeated, so now they the situation, to put it mildly, is not very good. But oh, how I don't want to admit my mistakes. And for this, all sorts of ideological tricks are launched with the laundering of German soldiers (it is not Hitler who can no longer be washed, although attempts do not stop), which carried "culture to wild Russia" and denigrated the Red Army, which opposed this and did not allow the creation of the European Union at that time ( III Reich). It is in order to somehow justify oneself in the eyes of the townsfolk that such “masterpieces” are created for which they do not spare funds. The worthy successors of I. Goebbels' cause have grown up in the European Parliament, what do they say: "a flag in your hands and a fair wind in your humped back." It's just that sometimes it would be nice to remember the fate of these "heroes". Something like that.
  37. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 4 May 2013 11: 33
    +3
    <<< But, apparently, the blinkeredness of European civilization is so strong today that it would be better to procrastinate there the image of the "old enemy" than to convey to the understanding of one's own society the presence of new and therefore more real opponents and threats. >>>
    Russia is not an "old enemy" of Western civilization, but a historical enemy, which it remains and against which the WAR continues and the multicultural sodomist Geyropa, hiding behind shitty demagogy, stupidly, despite the slaps received from Russia, continues to achieve its goal - the elimination, collapse of Russia, submission to its interests West. There is a struggle primarily for the minds of the younger generation. And, if in terms of the influence on the minds of the young generation of the West in terms of a truthful display of history, it is difficult for us to resist the most powerful ideological machine of common people, then it is a crime to leave it at the mercy of the education of the younger generation of Russia! And it's a double crime, when home-grown "intellectuals" - common people who smell of Western values, who position themselves as the discoverers of the historical truth, supposedly hitherto hidden - are involved in this campaign of denigrating Russia, the Russian people through a biased negative interpretation of history, which is now well paid in the West, with enthusiasm and enthusiasm, it is accepted and nominated for various awards. Too many of such a corrupt trash who calls himself the "intellectual elite" have grown in Russia thanks to our tolerance and early spirit, and it is necessary to block her, before it's too late, access to the education of the young generation of Russia!
  38. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 4 May 2013 11: 42
    +1
    Well, something more specific already. If the author continues to move in this direction, throws away unnecessary "water", then you get a good article with a list of "sworn friends" of Russia.
    While he cited as an example only a couple of scribblers and a couple of TV channels and everything, somehow it does not draw on the mass character and pan-European demonization of Soviet soldiers, it is clear that it exists, but its scale is not clear from the article.
    I wish the author to nevertheless write a good article exposing the vile geyropeytsev, but you won’t achieve results from the flip, study and analyze, present the facts (you have already begun to get it, but you still have to try), re-reading the material after a day or two, in general, helps a lot.
    1. Volodin
      4 May 2013 12: 00
      +7
      Well, the comments of this reader have become somewhat more meaningful and calmer. And if the reader also leaves his "sparkling" irony (which is more reminiscent of carefully veiled cynicism) about "just a couple of scribblers and a couple of TV channels", then in general everything will be great for him in the future. This means that the author's work was definitely not in vain.
      1. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn 4 May 2013 12: 26
        +3
        I would say sarcasm, to be more precise, 2 writers, 1 film, 1 NOT filmed film and 3 television channels were cited.
        We have only one Dozhd TV channel, and if you look back, I don't remember a single good film about the war made after the 2000s, only white tigers in a gray forest and tired of the sun.
        In general, I think we need to actively promote our position with the help of photo galleries and paintings, ballet and theater (since the movie went wrong), for example, RT is actively engaged in a similar issue, so it shows the world news from a different angle, so we need to provide support , and start your projects.
      2. Garrin
        Garrin 4 May 2013 15: 14
        -5
        Quote: Volodin
        So, the author’s work was definitely not in vain.

        The author’s work is not a work, but a provocation of sheer water. First, hit the wound with a non-healing one, and then, with a smirk, observe emotions. This is a mean and unworthy honest man. Personally, I did not invite you to psychoanalysts (even my hand does not rise with a capital letter). You are a scoundrel, sir!
        1. Volodin
          4 May 2013 15: 35
          +6
          Wow! It turns out that if there is a scoundrel, it is still the author of this material! .. Not those who smear monuments to Soviet soldiers with blue paint, not those who shoot provocative films and not those who encourage parades of SS veterans, but the author , who decided to talk about new similar episodes. You call the wrong scoundrels, oh, not those, good gentleman ... Do you think that in such cases you need to be silent in a rag and look at how they are trying to wipe your feet about Russia? Or are you just one of the same? "An unhealed wound" - then at least they would not be covered with beautiful words and the banner of Victory. And where did you even manage to see some kind of grin? Minus from me, sir.
          And according to the comment: if you are not familiar with the background of the author’s conversation with other readers, then you don’t need to write your comments about this ... And then some spoiled phone comes out.
          1. Garrin
            Garrin 4 May 2013 16: 01
            +2
            Quote: Volodin
            Wow! It turns out that if there is a scoundrel, then still the author of this material! ..

            I apologize, take my words back about the "scoundrel". I'm sorry, I don't know you, just emotions leaped up. I hope for your understanding and forgiveness.
            I will explain my position. I did not like that when you wrote this article, you just watched our emotions. For me, this war is not empty words, both grandfathers fought, one of them returned. Father, every year in the 50s-60s he went to mine the fields. I climbed to my mother under the covers and we did not know whether he would return or not. And I had to live in a warm house in Germany at 61m. Understand, for me, the past War is pain, and these are not words. Perhaps and most likely did not quite understand you correctly. I apologize again. Minus for the article and your comments are mine. Just try to understand ...
            Once again, sorry.
            1. Volodin
              4 May 2013 16: 38
              +3
              Igor, forgive me too for the harsh words. In general: I did not even think to observe the emotions, I just presented the material and responded to a kind of commentary to the reader, who for the second article in a row on this topic requires "additional facts of demonization of the Soviet soldier" - apparently, everything presented does not impress him ... Here I reacted to this, but I repeat that I did not even think of arranging any, God forgive me, psychoanalysts here.
              The war went through our family, so any attempt to belittle the role of the Victory and the role of Russia (the USSR) in this Victory is painfully perceived.
              1. Garrin
                Garrin 4 May 2013 17: 40
                +2
                Quote: Volodin
                The war went through our family, so any attempt to belittle the role of the Victory and the role of Russia (the USSR) in this Victory is painfully perceived.

                What can I say? A deep bow to all those who gave us life today. Arrogant, but true.
  39. Llirik
    Llirik 4 May 2013 11: 44
    +4
    The heroization of fascism in Europe takes on the traits of national politics, partly due to an excess of emigrants from Muslim countries, partly by revanchist sentiments after the Second World War (WWII), partly escalating the image of an external enemy in the form of a drunk bear with a balalaika should distract from internal problems.
    1. Eugen
      Eugen 4 May 2013 12: 25
      +7
      Heroization takes place in the former Soviet republics, for they have no history outside Russia to be proud of. So they create images of fighters for independence from the red monster.
      In general, Western propaganda is aimed not at the glorification of fascism, but at equating communism with fascism in order to make democratic forces the only right in that war. This is largely due to the decline of liberal political theory, so they are looking for something to cling to, so that the world order does not begin to look for other ways of further development.
  40. mihal74
    mihal74 4 May 2013 11: 46
    +3
    .... apparently I also raped them, as my grandfather, who died at 43 ....
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 4 May 2013 12: 05
      +6
      Quote: mihal74
      ... apparently I also raped them, as my grandfather, who died in 43 ....

      Maybe we need to organize a tour "To the memorable places of the battles of our grandfathers and fathers" astride the armor?
      laughing
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 4 May 2013 12: 55
        +9
        The German boasts: I go to Mers to work, to visit Ferrari, on vacation in Porsche, abroad on Maybach, and you?
        Russian - in Zhiguli ...
        Everywhere?
        Yes ...
        And what would you go abroad?

        ON THE T-34 TANK !!!
        1. Dimy4
          Dimy4 4 May 2013 18: 23
          0
          The model and number of cars can vary depending on the degree of arrogance of the receiving side.
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  41. Patush
    Patush 4 May 2013 12: 14
    +8
    Everything is true in the article, except for one thesis. The Cold War was not left behind, it did not end. It will not end as long as there is Russia. The stronger Russia is, the more they hate it.
  42. Yankuz
    Yankuz 4 May 2013 12: 15
    +1
    Quote: vilenich
    The Germans will never forgive us for their defeat in the war!

    This is a difficult question - they’ll forgive, they won’t forgive ... In any case, the current generation of Germans does not like to talk on these topics and in general about the Second World War. Unlike us, and we love to speculate about the past deeds of our people, they do not! Surprisingly...
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 4 May 2013 16: 05
      +4
      Quote: Yankuz
      In any case, the current generation of Germans does not like to talk on these topics and in general about the Second World War. Unlike us, and we love to speculate about the past deeds of our people, they do not! Surprisingly...

      The Germans quieted down after the process of "de-Nazization", carried out after the end of the Great Patriotic War (all in a crowd, in a herd, were taken to concentration camps, so that no one among the survivors would forget for whom they threw up their hands with the hysterical "Heil"). The older generation diligently avoids talking about Schicklgruber, but the young, on the contrary, are increasingly arguing that Adik was right on many issues: about order in the country in relation to non-Aryans, non-Germans, in particular. But that's a completely different story ...
    2. smile
      smile 4 May 2013 16: 27
      +2
      Yankuz
      And why is it strange - how can they talk about the exploits of a well-organized gang of murderers, robbers and rapists - the Wehrmacht? What is the point for them to procrastinate the theme of the lost 1 World? So they try not to rant on this topic ...
    3. VADIMKRSK
      VADIMKRSK 4 May 2013 20: 32
      +3
      The Germans are mostly sane people and keep quiet about the bad. As if nothing happened ... So many years have passed. The third generation after the war ...
  43. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 4 May 2013 12: 30
    +5
    From the book "Captivity" by Aron Schneier.
    The position of the prisoners of war who were transported by rail was no better than those who were on foot. Echelons often turned into death echelons. In the summer, the prisoners were sent in tightly closed wagons, in the winter in gondola cars and in open areas. In 1944, the railway lineman S.Yu. Orbidan told the Soviet investigating authorities that at the beginning of July 1941 the first echelon with Soviet prisoners of war arrived at the 214 km siding (Daugavpils, Latvia - A. Sh.). The second echelon arrived in mid-July. The cars were tightly closed. When the cars were opened, the prisoners of war greedily gulped the air with their open mouths. Many, leaving the cars, fell from exhaustion. Those who could not walk were shot by the Germans right there at the lineman's booth. From each echelon “400-500 corpses were thrown out. The prisoners said that they did not receive food or water on the way for 6–8 days. ”[32] Another eyewitness N.A. Antonov recalled:“ In 1941, approximately in November-December, to the station Daugavpils-1 a train of 45-50 wagons with Soviet prisoners of war arrived. All the cars were tightly closed. The echelon stood at the station for more than a day. The German, passing along the train, tapped the carriages with a stick. If voices and noise were heard from the car, the German followed, if no one answered from the car and there was silence, he would open the door. I was personally convinced that not a single one was left in the whole carriage. The German closed the car and walked on. Several cars from this train were filled with people who were frozen and died of hunger. ”[33] Former prisoner of war MG Berdichevsky, who survived the railway stage, said that“ people ate and quenched their thirst, scraping off the frost accumulated on the boards of the carriage from the breath of the mass of people "[34]. In November 1941, trains with prisoners of war arrived at the Lesnaya station near Minsk. Despite the severe 30-degree frost, they were transported in open wagons and in summer uniforms. (Note that in summer uniforms most of the Red Army soldiers were taken prisoner. Many did not manage to get their overcoats. The Germans themselves did not have winter uniforms. - A. Sh.) Prisoners of war who were frostbitten, exhausted and could not walk were beaten with sticks and shot ... In the evening they drove in peasant carts and all those killed and still alive were taken to the railway ditch near the Lesnaya station. The carts drove back and forth until one in the morning. According to I.M.Schepko, mobilized for the transportation of bodies, “when everything calmed down, I approached the pit, it was slightly covered with earth and from there I could hear terrible moans and screams” [35]. February 16, 1942, at 7:45 am a transport with 1000 prisoners of war was sent from Borisov to Minsk. The echelon arrived at the Minsk-Tovarnaya station at 13:30. 159 dead were unloaded from the cars. According to the head of transport, 10 more dead were unloaded on the way [36]. Thus, in 5 hours 45 minutes on the way, 169 prisoners of war died, almost 17% of those in the train.
    E.A.Buivyte-Kutorgene testifies that on March 18, 1942, frozen prisoners were brought to Kaunas and the cars were “stuffed so that when the doors are opened, the dead spill out like firewood ...” [37].
  44. individual
    individual 4 May 2013 12: 31
    +5
    Quote: "Why don't the Norwegian and Swedish creative gentlemen want to present their compatriots with a film about how entire quarters of Scandinavian cities are at the mercy of hijabs and black armbands with Wahhabi quotes in Arabic script? Why not make a film about the fact that some areas Oslo is more reminiscent of African "oases", where people do not know a word of Norwegian? Why is there nothing about this (real) occupation of Scandinavia, but about anti-Russian phobias - both books and films? "


    Yes, because the dominance of Muslims in their ancestral territories is exotic, and the Russian Ivan rising from his knees is a threat to revise the results of their "cold wars" and the manifestation of the genius and firmness of the Russian spirit. We may well say: "Live and fuck ..."
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 4 May 2013 16: 10
      +4
      Quote: individ
      Why not make a film that some parts of Oslo resemble, rather, African "oases"

      IMPORTANT, according to theirs, according to civilizational (Libya and Syria - not counting ...).
      Andreas Breivik is exposed as a political action movie (an analogue of the Russian Social Revolutionaries of the beginning of the last century). Norway is a calm people. But they will start to shake - you just need to push ...
  45. lilit.193
    lilit.193 4 May 2013 12: 33
    +6
    For all the miserables who really want to shoot a terrible movie about the terrible and bloody Russian occupation, I offer a ready-made first frame. wink fellow Those miserables who do not have a sea, but will also have to shoot a pimpelats as a hunt, will have to change the large landing craft for Ruslan or Mriya, and even better for a giant red-star airship, and a Marine for a paratrooper. Armor and turntables can be left. wink lolAnd forward riveting masterpieces. wassat wassat wassat
    1. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 4 May 2013 12: 58
      +6
      Better right away)
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 4 May 2013 16: 12
        +5
        Quote: Phantom Revolution
        Better right away)

        Is that again Medvedev with TNT?
        laughing
      2. lilit.193
        lilit.193 4 May 2013 21: 12
        +5
        Quote: Phantom Revolution
        Better right away)

        Or this one. "Russian occupation in winter". lol
    2. Containers
      Containers 5 May 2013 15: 34
      +2
      Well this is for a hybrid AK and MP5 (and possibly something else) such he holds in his hands.
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 5 May 2013 16: 06
        +1
        Quote: Kosha
        Well this is for a hybrid AK and MP5 (and maybe something else)

        Один из Sturmgevere pounding (distant) and the other (near) of Suomi Already dropped everything, chichas will shred guests with a checker!

        Note Did you think AK 47 and PPSh (PP Shaposhnikova ) is it a Russian weapon? For a long time already by foreign experts, everything was exposed! AK is the German StG44! PCA is Finnish Suomi!

        This is how we look at their enlightened gaze!
        Instead of a signature
        1. Containers
          Containers 5 May 2013 17: 54
          0
          I'm not talking about bear cavalry, I'm talking about the picture where the brave uh ... paratrooper (but what kind of crab does he have on that then the emblem is not an airborne one?) ... or a marine (then takes why blue?) With BDK and armored personnel carriers in the background.
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 5 May 2013 20: 23
            0
            Quote: Kosha
            I'm not talking about bear cavalry,

            BUT .
            In my opinion, the bear cavalry has more life than this _ Do not understand who, do not understand with what. But ARISTOCRATES! So rushing nobility! Glossy !!!
            hi
        2. tixon444
          tixon444 5 May 2013 20: 12
          +1
          Quote: Cynic
          And you thought AK 47 and PPSh (PP Shaposhnikova) are Russian weapons?

          PPSh - Shpagin's submachine gun, And Shaposhnikov - Marshal, chief of the General Staff.
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 5 May 2013 20: 41
            +2
            Quote: tixon444
            PPSh - Shpagin's submachine gun, And Shaposhnikov - Marshal, chief of the General Staff.

            Hmm.
            So there are no questions on the first question, only on the second.
            Chesslovo as in a joke!
            Why is everything bad with us, the economy is falling apart, etc ... What should I do?
            Stalin, without hesitation, replies:
            - Shoot the entire government and paint the Kremlin walls green.
            “But why in green?”
            - I assumed that the discussion will be only on the second issue.

            Eh hehe.
            crying
            1. ImPerts
              ImPerts 5 May 2013 21: 20
              0
              Yes, and on the first question there are questions. As already said
              Quote: Cynic
              For a long time already by foreign experts, everything was exposed! AK is the German StG44! PCA is Finnish Suomi!

              small arms experts established and proved that the PPSh took a drum-type magazine from suomi-konepistooli M / 31, and the AK-47 took an idea from the stormtrooper - the concept of an intermediate cartridge (which, in principle, began to be developed even earlier, but then brought and licked) . And if you start digging, you will have to look for the progenitor of the STG and AK-47 among the semi-automatic rifles.
              1. Cynic
                Cynic 6 May 2013 18: 56
                0
                But to think that it could be SARKAZM, and not terry ignorance and idolatry before the West, well?
                bully
      2. lilit.193
        lilit.193 6 May 2013 10: 30
        +2
        Quote: Kosha
        Well this is for a hybrid AK and MP5 (and possibly something else) such he holds in his hands.

        Well, after all, this is a shot from a type of Western film !!! wink wassat laughing
  46. a jacket
    a jacket 4 May 2013 12: 39
    +4
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    From the book "Captivity" by Aron Schneier.

    Why are you silent, looking at all this? They told me not to say something?
  47. Odissey
    Odissey 4 May 2013 13: 05
    +4
    Yes, what is happening in Europe is very much reminiscent of an attempt to whitewash not Nazism (which was condemned by Nuremberg), but Germany and its henchmen. All this is happening quietly, it began a long time ago (probably even when all the blame suddenly turned out to be on Hitler alone), but everything is becoming more and more replaceable and more noticeable. At the same time, it is advisable to expose the USSR in a black light, in order to finally arrange some kind of demonstrative pan-European trial of communism "in order to make Russia repent, pay and repent.
    PS A few days ago in Latvia, a government party took the initiative to demolish a monument to the liberating soldiers (right before Victory Day it was said that it was specially made). No longer surprising ...
  48. Fernando
    Fernando 4 May 2013 13: 05
    +4
    I have already expressed such an idea in another article, and I repeat: Let's ask ourselves a question - what can we do about this?
    Indignation at the actions of our "cold" enemies, and the inaction of our authorities in many cases, is of course an understandable reaction - but what can we do ourselves? I believe that we can act in such a situation as follows: on our own (thank the Internet, it’s not difficult now) educate our youth, telling the truth, explaining that history is, in fact, the most important of the sciences, because everything is always repeated, and one who knows the past can predict the future. And, of course, knowing history will help separate truth from propaganda and not be influenced.
    Further, they are waging an information war with us, field us half-truth and outright lies? - We will answer the truth in their face, without insults - with facts. Do not know Russian? - translate them into their languages! Yes, we can’t publish books in the west (or can we?) But there is a network, there is the same YouTube and other meta clusters of citizens from all over the world ...
    Someone asks - why? “They themselves will die out there under the onslaught of gays and Wahhabis!” - I will answer, in advance - I am against the fact that under one comb the revenge of normal, thinking people and a clear enemy. Those who hear the voice of truth will never support all this filth pouring on us, or perhaps they will oppose this rotten propaganda. They create the fifth column on the lie, so create the same for them - on the truth.

    ps in the vastness of the network, I learn a lot about what people think about us abroad, you just need to ask the right question in the search, and you know, many want to know our history and the truth about us - I think that we need to give them this, then films like that presented by the author - nothing more than booing.
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 5 May 2013 17: 23
      +1
      Fernando. You are 100% right. I am an ignoramus in your computer, but your idea must be implemented !!! Why is our fucking power and the FSB not doing this !? In the West, they are already writing that the USSR did not divide Europe with Hitler, and this is where the CF started! That's how railway Zionists are powdering their brains, and ours are not very smart people !!! RT, of course, well done, but not enough, more is needed, but this idea is just that! Russian craftsmen, open the eyes of the Western people about WW2 the whole truth, a video chronicle, extracts from Nuremberg, I would do it myself, but I can’t, and the old one! Yes and sick yet. I appeal to the FSB, who oversees! This idea is very sensible, implement! There are still not corrupt, I hope !!!
      1. Fernando
        Fernando 5 May 2013 21: 30
        +1
        Learning computer science is not so difficult, but in other matters, you don’t have to do something yourself, you can prepare material, for example, if you know the language, help with the translation.
        I personally plan to create a channel on YouTube, where I will teach Russian (spoken), and if everything is fine - I also want to make translations for our (best) songs, the Soviet period in general and the military period in particular - these are strong songs that reflect the soul of the people. And also historical essays ... But if someone intercepts this idea from me or duplicates - I will only be glad)
        The FSB - I honestly don’t know why, perhaps because if they do this and they are caught ... then you can blame the Russians for lies and propaganda, and they will believe it. On the other hand, to make good translations - there is nothing like that ...
        But we will break through - the main thing would be a desire, and not be lazy.
        1. Raven1972
          Raven1972 6 May 2013 12: 34
          -1
          Quote: Fernando
          I personally plan to create a channel on YouTube
          good good good
          Give me a link? I do not mind participating in this matter !!!!!!!!!! Unfortunately, I’m not strong on a computer, but I don’t always mind helping the material, as well as writing articles .... hi
  49. crambol
    crambol 4 May 2013 13: 20
    +4
    The Cold War is left behind ...

    The Cold War is not left behind, it is smoothly transforming into the third one. All these "rethinking" of the results of the Second World War are nothing more than the preparation of public opinion of the "free world" for the necessity of an indispensable invasion of Russia.

    the Norwegian writer sees, for some reason ... oh, horror - the occupation of Norway by Russia.

    And we already went through this as an example of an idiot, who had flown from the window of his own department. They all cherish it!
  50. Naval
    Naval 4 May 2013 13: 27
    +5
    Write. take off and talk - as they say, do not roll the bags, but when they begin to forcibly cut them off, drive them 5 times a day to prayer, and women will wear a veil, then they themselves will ask for occupation, and the occupiers will be greeted with flowers. I have seen a monument to Soviet soldiers in Norway with the inscription "Norway thanks you".