MiG-35: the last page has not been turned?

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MiG-35: the last page has not been turned?

Indeed, something strange is happening: you'd think the Su-75 would be there, you could slander, predict, and analyze as much as you like, but no. That same MiG-35 is haunting the other side.

We, admittedly, have practically written him off here. And there's reason to be. But the fact that something keeps popping up on the other side, and open-ended discussions—that's what's surprising.



Where there's smoke, there's fire. Sure, if there's a smoke generator nearby. The only question is who's blowing the smoke and why. When a partner criticizes our aircraft, it's understandable: they want a discount. When an opponent criticizes us, it's also understandable: they want to sell their aircraft. But when it's neither here nor there—that's where things get weird. And when it's not the Su-75, which can be both criticized and praised, but the MiG-35, with which "everything is complicated."

In fact, there is nothing complicated, the production of the aircraft has ceased, the prototypes are gathering dust somewhere, and six production aircraft are in service Defense Moscow. They say they're chasing us. drones, and at the same time, it's convenient to show to those who are interested. Surely we shouldn't send Kim Jong-un to Khalino, where the 35th used to be based?

But the plane is interesting...


For those who may not be aware, the MiG-35 is based on, and therefore shares as much commonality as possible with, the MiG-29K. Typically, it's the other way around, with a land-based aircraft being used to develop a naval variant, but here we have it: the airframe, the entire powerplant, the aircraft's systems, and the cockpit (yes, in our case, a two-seater version is possible, which appeals to customers in the East) are virtually identical.

Of course, the MiG-35 lacks a landing hook, replacing it with a drag chute, the landing gear is simpler, and the wings don't fold. Consequently, the aircraft became lighter, which seriously prompted consideration of a two-seater version. However, the anti-corrosion treatment was carried out to marine standards. aviation: firstly, it is more reliable, secondly – ​​again, it is a standardization of production.

But the internal components were quite different. The difference between 1988 and 2002 is quite significant in this regard. An active phased array radar, a new-generation onboard defense system based on a rather loose combination of electronic, optical, and passive defense systems, and a container with navigation and target acquisition equipment were added to the equipment list.

Some work was done on the then-fashionable stealth feature, meaning the MiG-35 had reduced thermal and radar signatures, but, of course, it never claimed to be a fifth-generation aircraft, despite what the West might write. However, "well-tailored and tightly stitched," it could take off and land not only from unequipped and unlit airfields, but from virtually any more or less suitable airfield.

Plus, the MiG-35's autonomy and reliability, which its predecessor had achieved at a world-class level, were elevated to a pedestal. Everything that could be duplicated (and even what couldn't) was. Some systems went even further than the MiG-29K. For example, the 35K's two generators were replaced with four. A "power unit mode" was implemented, where the starters activate the accessory gearboxes when the engines are off. This means, without turning on the engines or connecting external power sources, the batteries can fully spin up the accessory gearboxes (responsible for generating the aircraft's electrical and hydraulic power) and test all systems on the ground. Finally, the MiG-35 was equipped with an onboard oxygen-producing system.

Overall, it may not be a “4+++”, but it’s a very solid “4++”.


The MiG-35 doesn't have the characteristics of a fifth-generation stealth fighter, and it has no international partners. However, no one has ever hidden this. Another rather unpleasant aspect of the MiG-35 is its, to put it mildly, limited combat record. But it would be surprising to expect a decent victory record from an aircraft produced in such a small series.

What they write on the other side:

"The MiG-35 was used against the Ukrainians only in small numbers. The MiG-35 had no significant impact on the situation. The most it did was suppress the enemy's air defense system. It was also used for precision strikes against ground targets in Ukraine.

But this was a routine mission that did not play a decisive role in the war. The MiG-31 often flew beyond the range of enemy fighters and remained in Russian airspace.

Russia initially ordered 37 MiG-35s, but fewer than ten entered service. The production plan was cut to 24 fighters. This was a disappointment, as Russia faced international sanctions, which made it difficult to obtain spare parts and components for the MiG-35.

Potential clients in the export market, realizing that the program has failed, are not yet ready to sit down at the negotiating table with the Russians."


Overall, there's more than enough nonsense written, but this is precisely where it's time to ask: if everything is so bad, if the aircraft is worthless, why are we talking about the MiG-35 and not the Su-75? Okay, the shortcomings are described in great detail, and some of them are valid, while others are worth a good laugh, while also racking your brain trying to figure out what kind of things the US and Europe are buying for MiGs. You can take a risk, but you can also lose in the first round, because not everyone's brain is gifted with such imagination.

Can this aircraft be sold? Definitely. Moreover, the MiG-35 has a specific market among those countries that have operated the MiG-29 in all its guises. Eritrea, Sudan, Myanmar, Bangladesh, North Korea, Peru, Mongolia, Sudan, Yemen, Malaysia—the list of countries that have operated the MiG-29 is quite long, and not all countries are living on credit. Potential buyers exist. And they need the aircraft.


And let them not be as expensive as the F-15 and F-16, not as soft-advanced and therefore insanely expensive as the F-35 and more reliable than the F/A-18, which have recently gone crazy in terms of accidents.

And the MiG is quite appropriate here. Yes, it's a fighter-bomber for third-world countries, but... dollars don't stink.

The latest hoax was perpetrated by journalists from EurAsian Times. It's hard to say why hot-blooded Indian guys would want to do this, but 1945 and P&H happily picked up the thread and even expanded on it.

"This all-weather aircraft, capable of operating both day and night, can perform air superiority missions and engage moving and stationary ground and sea targets. The designers cite the NPK-SPP OLS-k electro-optical target designation and surveillance system, mounted on the fuselage, as suitable for these purposes. It is also equipped with a digital fly-by-wire control system and a modern ammunition complement."


The MiG-35 truly has a powerful arsenal. Nine hardpoints carry a variety of weapons, including anti-ship weapons. missiles Kh-31A, Kh-31P anti-radar missiles, Kh-29TE missiles, and KAB-500K bombs. There's plenty to go around, as they say.


The MiG-35 was also called the “Fourth Generation Bridge to Nowhere.”

It's said that it didn't live up to expectations. The MiG-35 was expected to outperform American fighters like the F-16 Viper. There was also talk that the MiG-35 could become an equally worthy competitor with stealth, as was the case with the Su-35. But the required level of stealth was not achieved, and the MiG became an "interim solution"—better than basic fourth-generation fighters, but less valuable than fifth-generation fighters.

Overall, the MiG-35 continues to underwhelm potential buyers. Egyptian troublemakers once considered purchasing this aircraft, but perhaps noticing its lack of a clear role in the Russian Air Force's combat complement, Egypt opted to purchase the MiG-29M. This is a significant indicator. This is likely why Argentina, Bangladesh, and Malaysia are also still in a dormant state, and US sanctions for purchasing Russian aircraft are a thorn in the side. However, Algeria continues to buy them.

India (where the wave of publications originated) also took a long time to look, but in the end created its own personal mess in terms of aviation, especially naval aviation.


But the argument was precisely this: if the Russians don't plan to use the MiG-35, why buy it? And the whole world sees that the Su-30 and Su-35 are toiling away in the Air Defense Forces.

And, by the way, this world can clearly observe the “successes” of Ukrainian aviation, which consists of Su-27 and MiG-29.

The Russian Aerospace Forces' apparent one-sidedness, having effectively switched to the Su-25, is noticeable, but who said having different types of aircraft is necessary? Many countries make do with just one type and are perfectly fine, believing their airspace security is in order.

There's been talk that MiG-35 production may resume. They've even given a timeframe: 2027. It's actually quite realistic. The number of aircraft and customers aren't being announced, but... there have been demonstrations, and those who can afford them have seen the MiG-35. And they haven't seen it at an exhibition or air show, but at the airfield from which the aircraft fly combat missions. There is a difference.

This sparked discussions and speculation about who stands to gain and who stands to lose from the MiG-35 acquisition. And this is certainly not without reason, as both strengths and weaknesses are being discussed.

Speaking of weaknesses.

In reality, there aren't that many. The first thing they mention is "low fuel efficiency." Yes, the MiG has always been inferior to the Sukhoi in range, that's true. But it's been said many times that engines can be installed even with UHT, no problem. Anything goes, as they say, and Russian engines with UHT—sorry, even the US ones aren't yet up to... technical standards.

Smoke... Yes, that's true. The RD-33 was a masterpiece in this regard, because it smoked at both maximum and minimum speeds.


But over time, the engine was improved, and it's now safe to say that the RD-33MK engine's smoke trail is minimal. Its service life was also increased to 4,000 hours, a point detractors had always tipped against the RD-33's nozzle.

There were complaints about the radar and radar systems, but that's just ridiculous: it's clear the Indians started it all. But what they did during their long-running tender, let them be held accountable. Did they want to buy the Rafale? Did they do everything to achieve that? Now let them reward their pilots (sadly, posthumously) for flying these misunderstandings.

Yes, they wrote a lot back then about how flawed the radar was and how unstable the optical location system was, but none of that should be taken seriously. It was a fight against a competitor, nothing more. The whole world knows that the Indians usually play dirty to gain real profit.

It's strange that the "trick" of operating outside the airfield network didn't work out. You'd think Mali and other places where a compacted strip of sand is the definition of an airfield would have seized on this feature, but no. Incidentally, the Swedes didn't have much success with the JAS 39 Gripen either; there was no queue for the aircraft.

And finally, perhaps, there really is a conceptual flaw in the way the aircraft is presented to potential buyers. It's a major oversight, but many on the other side point out that the aircraft doesn't have a clear role in Russia's air superiority doctrine and its very limited operational status. In short, these are marketing missteps.

The Su-57 is certainly trending these days. After its unveiling at the Dubai Airshow, everyone became interested in the aircraft, and while not everyone can afford the luxury of buying a Russian one, weapons, but those who can, will buy.

The upcoming arrival of the Su-75 certainly complicates matters, but the aircraft aren't entirely similar. The Su-75 will definitely play in the light fighter class, while the MiG-35 is a general-purpose fighter, heavier, and twin-engine. But there's a significant caveat: for those who have previously used MiGs, the Su-75 or 57 will be very expensive. After all, it's not just the aircraft itself; it'll also require the acquisition of all the associated maintenance infrastructure, and all of this equipment is different for the Su-75 and MiG.

We're not talking about buyers like Algeria, but rather lower-ranking countries. And in this case, with some marketing tweaks, it might work.


The MiG-35 has potential, both for export and combat. It's worth remembering that after the collapse of the USSR, amidst the warming climate, numerous training exercises were conducted between the West German and East German air forces, and East German MiG-29s convincingly defeated both American F-15s and F-16s, and French Mirage 2000s. Did that happen? It did.

Moreover, the MiG-35 has an undeniable advantage: it can be easily and effortlessly converted into a two-seater, and this was factored into the design. The only difference from the single-seater is that the fuel capacity in the internal tanks is reduced by 360 liters due to the addition of a second pilot. In terms of design, the aircraft are completely identical, right down to the canopy frame.


In general, standardization is a very beneficial undertaking. And if we add to this the fact that RSC MiG is a leader in the development and production of training simulators…

Overall, there's potential. It's not yet clear who the buyer will be after 2027. Apparently, the regime is so tightly guarded that even Western snoops haven't been able to find out anything, but the fact that the Indians are the ones causing the stir suggests it's highly likely they will.

Why? Well, firstly, the MiG-35 was involved in that tender, and India knows what kind of aircraft it is. Secondly, they're planning to solve the aircraft problem, because the Rafale is still a Rafale. Thirdly, India is a MiG operator.

And finally: the Indians' vacillations and hesitations have long been well-known. Today they want nothing but the Rafale, tomorrow they'll order another Su-30MKI, next up they'll have the Su-57 (naturally, to be manufactured in India), and so on. They'll certainly also be toying with the idea of ​​the Su-75, so why not return to the MiG-35?


In short, everything is according to Indian canons. The dancing is just beginning, those who ordered the Rafales have already begun serving their prison sentences, so the carnival can begin anew. Especially since it will be run not by those who profited from the Rafales, but by those who cried foul.

But in this scenario, the MiG-35 has a chance for the future. Moreover, it's perfectly clear that if India buys it, others will follow. Moreover, New Delhi is already seriously considering the idea of ​​peddling Russian aircraft assembled in India.

So 2027 is not that far away, there will be something to see.
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  1. 34+
    23 December 2025 04: 09
    Is the P&W f-100 an outstanding engine? Absolutely.
    We take two engines and get
    f-15.
    We take one engine and get
    f-16
    Is the AL-31/41 an outstanding engine? Absolutely.
    We take two engines and get the Su-27.
    We take one engine and get...
    Hence the question: why, having before our eyes the example of our opponents in the form of “heavy/light”, did we go down the path of “heavy/medium”?
    Therefore, I am convinced that the Su-75 will be a huge success both domestically and internationally. I wish inspiration to the designers in its completion.
    And the MiG-35 must be produced and sold to the Iranians, Koreans and the same Mongols.
    Good luck, comrades.
    1. 31+
      23 December 2025 04: 31
      First, we need to start producing this Su-75, and then we'll see how it performs. Right now, things are going very slowly. As for the MiG-35, everything is clear and understandable. It's completely abandoned by the Sukhoi concern, headed by Pogosyan. It's a shame, because it's a pretty good aircraft. As for stealth/visibility, there's no point in fussing over it. It's stealthy today, but tomorrow they'll invent new radars and it'll be perfectly visible.
      1. -2
        23 December 2025 11: 49
        I don't argue that one company has outgunned another. It's a shame, of course, for the MiG guys, but we need to understand both the country's financial and industrial capabilities. Competition between design bureaus? Maybe it's better to focus resources on one thing at a time? By the way, during WWII, the country produced a limited range of weapons. But it did so in large numbers.
        1. 10+
          23 December 2025 12: 22
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          Should we focus our resources on just one thing at the moment? By the way, during WWII the country produced a limited range of weapons. But on a massive scale

          What do you mean, limited? Are the Yak and the Lada a limited product range? Were there any other design bureaus that were aiming to produce fighters? Neither the Polikarpov nor the Sukhoi design bureaus ceased production, as far as I know.
          1. +1
            23 December 2025 15: 40
            Of course, it is limited. Compared to allies, and even to the enemy.
          2. +3
            23 December 2025 15: 52
            I'll add that in the same Third Reich, six design bureaus were involved in the fighter aircraft industry.
            1. +3
              23 December 2025 17: 42
              Quote from: dmi.pris1
              In the same Third Reich, six design bureaus were working on the topic of fighter aircraft

              Well, we have no less, and in the series there were 2-3, just like the Germans.
              1. +2
                24 December 2025 08: 26
                Lavochkin, Yakovlev, Mikoyan with Gurevich, Petlyakov.
                1. -1
                  24 December 2025 13: 28
                  Quote: AlexisT
                  Lavochkin, Yakovlev, Mikoyan with Gurevich, Petlyakov.

                  Was Petlyakov involved in fighter jets?
                  1. +7
                    24 December 2025 15: 48
                    So the dive bomber is made from a twin-engine escort fighter, something like that...
                  2. 0
                    25 December 2025 10: 24
                    Actually, the Pe2 was originally developed as a fighter, if I'm not mistaken.
                2. +1
                  24 December 2025 16: 19
                  Tomashevich, Gudkov, Gorbunov (both had separate projects), Polikarpov, Sukhoi, Kocherigin, Bolkhovitinov...
        2. 12+
          23 December 2025 13: 54
          Promoting this version of the famous aircraft is definitely a yes. But to do that, we'd still need to restart production, albeit a small one, by ordering another 12-14 aircraft for the Aerospace Forces. Add the six that are in service—and you've got yourself a regiment. Compact. After restarting production, we'll go to those who had or have the MiG-29 and promote it. At a minimum, we need to resolve the situation with North Korea, even with barter or a loan, but supply them with at least 12-18 aircraft. And then things will take off. Once the 35s conquer the skies north of the 38th parallel and over the Yellow Sea and the Sea of ​​Japan, the advertising will be worldwide.
          1. +1
            24 December 2025 15: 54
            What's stopping us from immediately supplying North Korea with aircraft? Why would the Aerospace Forces need these 12-14 aircraft?
            But something tells me they won't be delivered. Remember Kim Jong-un's visit, when they showed him the planes? There was the Su-35, the Su-57, the MiG-31, even the Tu-160. But they didn't show him everything; the MiG-35 was missing.
            1. 0
              25 December 2025 00: 33
              We seem to have units that operate MiG-29s, but they need these MiG-35s the most.
        3. 0
          25 December 2025 10: 14
          I'd focus on the industry that's most advanced in terms of mobility. So many automakers are developing vehicles, and so many factories are producing hundreds of types of aircraft. And all this with massive mutual borrowing and cross-pollination. There's such a thing as competition; it's the only thing that can prevent systemic stagnation. The Superjet, for example, still hasn't really taken off. And yet, so much has been invested in it. Now it's back to the Ilyushin, the MS, and the Tupolev...
      2. -4
        23 December 2025 14: 33
        Well, why tomorrow? We and the Chinese already have new radars that can perfectly see all these American 5th generation toys at a very decent distance.
      3. +1
        11 January 2026 03: 53
        As for visibility and stealth, there's no point in fussing over that idea. Today you're invisible, tomorrow they'll come up with new radars and you'll be perfectly visible.

        Brilliant analytics! It's very useful today, but tomorrow it might not be. Or it might still be useful. My God, what a nightmare.

        By the way, is Sukhoi also to blame for the fact that India allegedly refused to purchase the MiG-35?
    2. -23
      23 December 2025 04: 44
      Quote from multicam
      Therefore, I am convinced that the Su-75 will be a huge success both within the country

      Take off your rose-colored glasses already. There is no Su-75 and there never will be.
      Quote from multicam
      And the MiG-35 must be produced and sold to the Iranians, Koreans and the same Mongols.

      Forget about this old man, he was relatively good in the 90s, now he’s trash.
      1. +5
        23 December 2025 07: 02
        Quote: Puncher
        Forget about this grandpa already.

        Don't say: a lot comes down to standardization, production and maintenance costs.
        And in the era of the mass use of drones, even light civilian turboprops can be used – cheaply and effectively, the only problem is finding somewhere to get them.
        So I wouldn't bury it: if we can't find a use for it, we can't produce it in large quantities; we don't have the resources for production, so we can make one every couple of years instead of a dozen a year...
      2. VlK
        +3
        23 December 2025 10: 57
        Forget about this guy already, he was relatively good in the 90s, now he's trash

        What's so bad about it today? It's just a platform, essentially.
        1. +4
          23 December 2025 19: 40
          Quote: VlK
          Forget about this guy already, he was relatively good in the 90s, now he's trash

          What's so bad about it today? It's just a platform, essentially.

          There has never been a case where an aircraft has had huge export success, but at the same time has not been widely used by the country of manufacture...
          The point of a light fighter is its low cost and low operating costs. But developing or comprehensively modernizing an aircraft just for export is nonsense.
          And they're not planning on buying hundreds of these planes for their Air Force. Especially now that the 75th is looming...
          1. VlK
            +5
            23 December 2025 20: 02
            Especially now that the 75th year is looming...

            loomed... And how long it will take us to receive it as a combat unit (if we ever receive it; it's still a prototype that has never flown, as they say) - no one knows. It simply doesn't exist yet.
            It turns out that they've painted themselves into a corner by starting their rearmament not with a cheap mass-produced model and then expanding its capabilities, but with an expensive one in limited quantities.
            1. +1
              24 December 2025 16: 48
              Quote: VlK
              And how long will it take us to get it as a combat unit?

              This is an extremely complex question...
              Quote: VlK
              not from a cheap mass-produced model

              Regarding "cheapness," that's debatable. Data varies, but open sources suggest the MiG-35 is 65-75% cheaper than the Su-35 (for example, the F16 is half the price of the F15).
              1. VlK
                +1
                24 December 2025 18: 25
                Regarding "cheapness," that's debatable. Data varies, but open sources suggest the MiG-35 is 65-75% cheaper than the Su-35 (for example, the F16 is half the price of the F15).

                So, with an equal purchase price for every three or four heavy aircraft, we'll get the same number of medium-sized aircraft plus one "free" one. And this isn't even the MiG yet, which would likely push the price down even further? Doesn't seem so bad, especially for a country with a need for a single multi-purpose aircraft and a limited aviation budget? By the way, in a good production run, it wouldn't be that far off from the F-16's price point?
        2. 0
          25 December 2025 19: 03
          Perhaps it's all about price. Potential buyers of the MiG-35 are countries that operate MiG-29s. They see nothing particularly innovative in the MiG-35, and they get the impression that they're being sold a slightly improved MiG-29 at a price higher than a heavy fighter like the Su-30.
      3. +6
        23 December 2025 14: 51
        There is no Su-75 and there never will be.
        - Tell this to the head of the flight service of the Sukhoi company, Hero of Russia Sergei Bogdan, otherwise he is not in the know: "The first flight of the light fifth-generation fighter Su-75 Checkmate will take place in early 2026, reported the head of the flight service of the Sukhoi company, Hero of Russia Sergei Bogdan."
    3. +5
      23 December 2025 06: 52
      "...I am convinced that the Su-75 will be a huge success.... And the MiG-35 (and the MiGs from stock brought up to its level)... will be sold...."
      Absolutely accurate definition!
      And the MiGs and a lot of modernized equipment, successfully used in the SVO, will be sold, and new models will be sold to the RA for the proceeds.
    4. +1
      23 December 2025 07: 40
      So many words for the obvious conclusion about the history of this glorious fighter from the past: the fish don’t bite on this bait.

      I was particularly amused by the degree of freedom in the number of pilots—"even a canopy with a dividing frame..."—that really begs for a second crew member. A revision of the goal-setting process is underway to address the shortcomings.
    5. +1
      23 December 2025 11: 02
      The reason is simple: ever since we began using turbojet engines in our fighters, Russian turbojet engines lacked the reliability necessary for the development of single-engine fighters. Hopefully, this problem has been resolved, and the Su-75 will be able to fly properly on a single engine.
      1. 15+
        23 December 2025 11: 35
        The creators of the MiG-21 read this comment with undisguised surprise.
        1. +1
          31 December 2025 17: 57
          The creators of the MiG-23 are also freaking out.
    6. +5
      23 December 2025 15: 10
      Quote from multicam
      Hence the question: why, having before our eyes the example of our opponents in the form of “heavy/light”, did we go down the path of “heavy/medium”?

      So, we initially went down the "heavy/light" route. After all, the MiG-29 was designed according to specifications for a light frontline fighter.
      However, the dog could grow up during the journey! © smile
      In the sense that after cramming in all the Air Force requirements, the MiG-29 smoothly slipped into the "light-medium" niche. And after upgrades aimed primarily at increasing flight time,short-range air superiority fighter"The MiG-29 has finally become a mid-range fighter. This seals its own fate, as despite all its upgrades, it still lags behind the Su-27/30 family in this niche.
    7. +1
      23 December 2025 18: 36
      Of those listed, only Iran will be able to buy them, and even that is not a fact.
    8. +2
      23 December 2025 20: 06
      Quote from multicam
      Hence the question: why, having before our eyes the example of our opponents in the form of “heavy/light”, did we go down the path of “heavy/medium”?
      Because the MiG-29 and RD-33 flew before the Su-27 and AL-31. The USSR needed something to counter the American fourth-generation aircraft. The MiG-23 was a failure, primarily due to its inadequate radar, and fitting it with something better was impossible due to the size and capacity of its existing electrical system. And this was the right decision, because the MiG-23's potential against new American aircraft was demonstrated during Operation Mole Cricket 19, when Israel destroyed over 80 Syrian MiGs, losing only one drone. The MiG-29 enabled the USSR to transition to the fourth generation while the Sukhoi was being perfected.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mole_Cricket_19
      Quote from multicam
      sell to the Iranians
      It's impossible because of sanctions. And, unlike US or EU sanctions, these are imposed by the UN Security Council and are binding on all UN members.
    9. 0
      24 December 2025 01: 59
      Quote from multicam
      We take two engines and get the Su-27.
      We take one engine and get...

      The concept was miscalculated at the top.
  2. +9
    23 December 2025 05: 31
    Still, the difference between 1988 and 2002 in this regard is quite significant.

    To estimate the price of an aircraft with the same "stuffing" from 2002 in 2026 is at the very least ridiculous.
    1. 15+
      23 December 2025 07: 54
      Quote: Amateur
      To estimate the price of an aircraft with the same "stuffing" from 2002 in 2026 is at the very least ridiculous.

      And what year did the Rafale fly? What, is it almost the same age as the MiG-29?? What a surprise.
      And why 2002? If the MiG-35S appeared in the 2010s, and the question of its procurement for the Aerospace Forces was on the table until at least the end of the decade? And does your religion prohibit you from accepting the information (from the latest exhibition in the UAE) that the MiG-35S's radar will now be the same as the one on the prospective Su-75?
      I think they started talking and writing about the MiG-35S again not only because of suspicions about its imminent order by India (and they really need it, for the same high-altitude airfields and not only), but also about the fact that "some strange MiG-29s have appeared in Iran, which in appearance look like the MiG-29M. Including two-seaters. And since the MiG-35S is the MiG-29M2, they just changed the index before the Indian tender, then ... here is a reason to talk ... to discuss. Because you never know. The fact that the MiG-35S is already in production and there are foreign customers for it, the head (or deputy head) of the UAC said in response to questions two years ago. And now "some MiG-29Ms" have already appeared in Iran and onlookers are filming and photographing them in the air. Not only that Iranian commercials feature animations of these MiG-29Ms striking land and sea targets. The emphasis is more on strike capabilities, something the classic MiG-29 couldn't do at all. But the MiG-35S can do just fine.
      The MiG-35S boasts excellent flight characteristics, new, highly durable, fuel-efficient, and smoke-free engines with plasma ignition and independent starting. It also boasts an excellent active phased array (AESA) radar (the Indian Rafale has a penetrating phased array), a wide range of AESA systems, including virtually the entire Su-57 AESA suite, and an excellent radar system (much time has passed since the Indian tender). It's easy to deploy, and airfield infrastructure and equipment for the MiG-29 can be used for maintenance.
      And Iran has and operates MiG-29.
      And the DPRK operates the MiG-29.
      And our production line for 40-44 aircraft per year was idle.
      Now it looks like it's loaded.
      Quote: Amateur
      In 2026, an airplane with the "stuffing" from 2002 is at least funny.

      Laugh at the Indian Rafale's PFAR.
      And admire the MiG-35S AESA, which will also be installed on the prospective Su-75.
      And its price is the same as they promise for the light Su-75, although the MiG-35S is quite average.
      I'd be more respectful about its range and combat radius, too: 3000 km and 1350 km, respectively, compared to 3500 km and 1500 km for the Su-35S. As you can see, the difference isn't that great.
      The Little Army that Shoigu was building needed FEW aircraft, so they decided to purchase only heavy ones. This was to compensate for the lack of quantity with quality (greater combat capabilities). That's why only heavy fighters are being purchased now.
      But for most of our clients, the capabilities of the MiG-35S are just right.
      And they are already beginning to understand this.
      1. +6
        23 December 2025 08: 31
        In the Little Army that Shoigu was building, there were supposed to be FEW planes, that's why we decided to buy only heavy ones

        You're drawing this conclusion from "common sense," but I think we should draw conclusions across the entire spectrum of weapons purchased—from the Ministry of Defense's work "for itself," i.e., in the "spirit of Timur Ivanov"...
        and if, in this case, we also remember Pogosyan...
        1. +7
          23 December 2025 11: 55
          Everyone knows about Pogosyan's role, as well as those of T. Ivanov, Shoigu, and Ms. Shevtsova, and people also remember the "Little Army" bogeyman for the Supreme Command. But there was also common sense in the choice of "what should we buy then?" because, for our size, heavy fighters are much preferable, as they have a greater combat radius and payload. And this turned out to be the right decision, because when strikes on frontline airfields forced the transfer of combat aircraft to more remote airfields, their combat radius was still more than sufficient with the standard payload.
          In order to have light fighters in addition to heavy ones in the Aerospace Forces, we need to expand the Aerospace Forces' manpower structure, military budget, and airfield network. And we'll probably have to move back from two-squadron regiments to regiments with three or four squadrons. And that means additional dispersal airfields.
          1. 0
            23 December 2025 15: 48
            In order to have light fighters in addition to heavy ones in the Aerospace Forces, it is necessary to expand the staffing table for the Aerospace Forces, the military budget and the airfield network.

            And these are additional dispersal airfields.

            I can't speak for the whole country, but there was a military airfield nearby with a rich infrastructure. Somewhere around 2010-12, they spent a ton of money on its reconstruction, and already in 2014, the military unit and everything that belonged to it was disbanded...
            Thank God there was some security left for "1,5 diggers"...
            therefore I stand by my opinion
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            24 December 2025 10: 06
            Quote: bayard
            In order to have light fighters in addition to heavy ones in the Aerospace Forces, it is necessary to expand the staffing table for the Aerospace Forces, military budget and the airfield network.

            and for this, first of all, we need to boost the economy and eradicate corruption...
            1. +1
              24 December 2025 13: 51
              In the Russian Federation, corruption is no longer the "lubricant of the economy", but rather the "Backbone" of the vertical power structure.
              As for the choice of heavy fighters for the Aerospace Forces, at that time, and to this day, given the current state of affairs, the decision was correct. Moreover, it was the only correct one.
              Regarding the fate of the MiG-35S and this segment in general, to maintain the design bureau and its production capacity and personnel base, it would have been possible and necessary to order a regimental set of MiG-35K/KUB for carrier-based aviation to replace the already worn-out remnants of the Su-33. Even back when the Kuznetsov was being put into repair and modernization. It would also have been possible to order one or two regimental sets of MiG-35S for the Aerospace Forces for use in less critical missions based in the Caucasus and the southern strategic direction (SA). Such a solution would have generated far greater interest and trust than ordering six pre-production aircraft. Then, these very good fighters, optimal for many, would have been more readily exported.
              Well, we need to boost the economy and create a positive business climate. But to do that, we need to change the government paradigm—abandon (in deeds, not just words) our colonial status, change the entire economic bloc of the government, abolish the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, and introduce a full state monopoly on banking in the Russian Federation. And everything will immediately improve, accelerating economic growth, especially in the real sector. And then we can even reduce VAT, followed by a complete abolition and ban of this most savage of all possible taxes.
              In the meantime, a "deficit budget decision until 2042" has been made. While it's great if the deficit is covered by increasing the monetization of the economy, it certainly shouldn't be limited to that—all of the above is also mandatory.
        2. +3
          23 December 2025 14: 38
          Well, they really made a mess, it will take a long time to clean up.
      2. +9
        23 December 2025 11: 38
        What year did the Rafale fly?

        Since its introduction, the Rafale has undergone several major upgrades, and today's Rafales are very different from those they initially produced. Much like the Su-35 is different from the Su-27.
        Laugh at the Indian Rafale's PFAR.

        Indian Rafales are equipped with the RBE2-AA AESA active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar from Thales. Rafales with AESA radars have not been produced for 10-15 years.
        In the Little Army that Shoigu was building, there were supposed to be FEW aircraft, so they decided to buy only heavy ones.

        This was decided long before Shoigu. MiG had traditionally been a manufacturer of light, single-engine fighters, which were in demand and could be purchased in significant quantities, unlike heavier ones. But during the competition to create a promising fighter, MiG entered the "semi-heavy" twin-engine category and lost to the Su-27. MiG's design team, meanwhile, was neither light nor heavy (and we're not just talking about the aircraft's weight). As a result, they used their connections to push through the production of the MiG-29 in addition to the Su-27. This is where all of MiG's problems stem from. The design bureau was never able to return to the sought-after single-engine fighter niche and effectively died.
        1. VlK
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          23 December 2025 11: 47
          Quote from solar
          This is where all the MiG's problems stem from. The design bureau was never able to return to the single-engine fighter niche that was in demand on the market and effectively died :((

          What prevented them from returning to this niche, lack of resources for a new project?
          1. +5
            23 December 2025 11: 50
            I don't know. Maybe they didn't have the resources, maybe they lost the expertise. But they didn't go back, they continued stubbornly trying to improve the initially unsuccessful MiG-29 design, and ended up with the MiG-35, which no one needs.
            1. +8
              23 December 2025 12: 56
              Quote from solar
              Maybe they lacked the resources, maybe they lost the expertise. But they didn't return, stubbornly continuing to refine the initially unsuccessful MiG-29 design, and ended up with the MiG-35, which no one needed.

              Actually, they had a project for a promising single-engine fighter, which they initially didn't fund, but after some time, they pushed through the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) and the Ministry of Industry and Trade to develop the Su-75, based on the MiG-5's fifth-generation single-engine fighter. They justified this by citing the fact that Sukhoi had its own funding for the development.
              Quote from solar
              it turned out to be neither a candle for God nor a poker for the devil

              This is also incorrect. For a frontline fighter, it was very good when it entered service, defeating all NATO fighters at short and medium ranges (medium ranges were measured somewhat differently back then than they are now). It also had and still has its niche for export, for example, at high-altitude airfields, where the MiG-29 is much more at home than others due to its high thrust-to-weight ratio. On the eve of the Second Military Operation, the Indians placed an urgent order with Russia for 42 MiG-29s from the Aerospace Forces (i.e., used, from storage, but repaired) specifically for their high-altitude airfields. And the combination of characteristics, a new radar, avionics, avionics, and outstanding performance at a reasonable price, ease of deployment, and engine autonomy make it the optimal solution for many small and/or poor countries. Successful exports were hampered primarily by political reasons for "restraint" by the US, extensive and largely false negative publicity from competitors, and the lack of such aircraft in the Aerospace Forces. They could have purchased a couple of regimental sets, and export contracts would have flown in. But since the MiG Design Bureau had no other export product, and the Ministry of Defense didn't purchase MiG-35Ss, they were left without funds, as aircraft repairs for old customers barely covered their living expenses. The state didn't help. Ultimately, it essentially took/stole the technical documentation for the single-engine fighter, and, having given it to the Sukhoi Design Bureau, is now marketing it as the Su-75. However, so many changes, including external ones, have already been made that the Su-75 is becoming less and less like its original prototype.
              And the MiG design bureau was forced, due to lack of money, to sell its magnificent plant in Moscow for development angry And the government couldn't care less. Well, now they keep customers and any information secret, which is probably right. Our Aerospace Forces prefer heavy fighters with a long combat radius today, and light, stealthy single-engine fighters for lower-priority theaters of operations. But the MiG-35S is in demand specifically for export and (and this is a fact) as a carrier-based fighter. To do this, they simply need to change the landing gear and attach an arresting hook (I'm exaggerating, but it's a fact). It would have been much more profitable for the Indians to buy a MiG-35K for their new aircraft, but... the world's bankers whispered to them back then that Russia had only a few years left to live, that it would disappear like the USSR. So the Indians didn't take any risks - they abandoned the MiG-35S and the joint development of the T-50 (Su-57), bought Rafales from the Rothschilds... And look how it turned out.
              And since things turned out this way, and the Rafales turned out to be terrible crap... then why not return to our previous plans and intentions? Nobody feels better at high altitude than the MiG-29 and MiG-35S. And for the decks of Indian aircraft carriers, the MiG-35K is far more useful and profitable, which is also 4-5 times cheaper, with comparable or even better qualities. So why overpay? Wouldn't it be better to rip the French off for quality penalties and then cancel the contract for carrier-based Rafales? After all, the MiG-35K is better. Much better. You can't beat the French.
              And for Iran, the MiG-35SE, as well as their mountain airfields and underground airbase capabilities, are just the thing. I've long suggested they order 150 MiG-35S and 75 Su-35S fighters and upgrade their air force with these two types. They kept fiddling around until the Israelis finally got their act together.
              And for the DPRK and its mountains, the MiG-35S is the best solution. Not the only one, but the optimal one, and therefore the best.
              And for Venezuela.
              And for Cuba.
              And for a number of other countries.
              1. +7
                23 December 2025 13: 12
                The MiG-29 turned out to be an incomprehensible aircraft - approaching the Su-27 in price, but inferior in capabilities.
                But MiG didn't learn from this—it stubbornly continued to build the MiG 1.44 instead of returning to single-engine aircraft. Even the MiG-AT trainer was made twin-engine.
                Now, is it really clear what MiG will use to build a single-engine aircraft? With the Sukhoi, it's clear—based on the Su-57, similar to the F-22/F-35. But MiG will have to build everything from scratch. And that takes time and a lot of money.
                1. +3
                  23 December 2025 16: 29
                  Quote from solar
                  continued to stubbornly build the MiG 1.44 instead of returning to single-engine aircraft.

                  This fighter was conceived as a replacement for the MiG-31 and as a heavy fighter of the 5th (next) generation with a speed of 3M.
                  Or maybe MiG didn’t have the twin-engine MiG-25 and MiG-31 with record-breaking performance?
                  Or did Sukhoi Design Bureau not work on single-engine aircraft?
                  Or was there no firm decision in the Ministry of Defense and the government, based on the experience of the Vietnam War and the wars in the Middle East, that “Now only twin-engine fighters”?
                  Did not hear ?
                  What exactly were the technical specifications that both design bureaus received?
                  Sukhoi was tasked with building a heavy fighter, while the Mikoyan design bureau was tasked with building a light one. So they did it, strictly according to the specifications. However, a twin-engine fighter, by definition, can't be cheap or too easy to maintain. Furthermore, the light fighter's more compact layout made maintenance even more labor-intensive, a problem that was corrected in subsequent modifications.
                  Or is the US Hornet not twin-engine?
                  Or is the Rafale not the same?
                  Or Eurofighter?
                  There was a trend/fashion for twin-engines, so everyone did it. And while money was being counted during the Cold War, everyone was happy with everything. Because of reliability, survivability in case of one engine failure, a thrust-to-weight ratio of one or more. But when traitors killed the Union and the unipolar world came... once money started being counted, they started sorting things out. Not only looking at combat characteristics and combat value, but also at procurement and life cycle layering. That's when hard times came for the MiG-29, because more advanced modifications were already in the works, but money was not allocated for them. On the contrary, they started selling off the operational MiG-29 fleet like crazy... i.e., there was no demand for new ones for a long time. Until the Indians ordered a carrier-based version. That's when they started hammering out the MiG-35. And Pogost will throw spokes and shafts in its wheels. And other competitors, for whom the MiG-35 interfered with their plans. And the imminent demise of the Russian Federation, predicted by bankers, cooled the Indians' enthusiasm for the MiG-35. So much so that they even abandoned the PAK FA project.
                  The design bureau was working on a single-engine fighter project. But the Ministry of Defense had no need for it, and the poor countries that requested it were unwilling to fund its development. Then the "gentlemen" at UAC took over the project and gave it to their competitors, the Su-75, to build—at their own expense, using Su-57 technology.
                  And the design bureau is to blame?
                  Right?
                  1. +2
                    23 December 2025 20: 58
                    Sukhoi was tasked with making a heavy fighter, while the Mikoyan design bureau was tasked with making a light one. So, that's what they did—strictly according to the specifications.

                    The initial technical specifications were for a tactical interceptor to replace the Su-15; during the process, it was proposed to split the program into two parts – heavy and light.

                    Hornet

                    Lost to the single-engine F-16 in the USAF light fighter competition.

                    Rafale or Eurasian Fighter

                    Initially, these were multi-purpose aircraft designed to replace the equally versatile twin-engine Tornado. These aircraft are closer in design to the Su-30 than to the MiG-29.

                    Because reliability, survivability in case of failure of one of the engines, a thrust-to-weight ratio of one or more. And when traitors killed the Union and the unipolar world came... as soon as they started counting money, they started to sort it out.

                    Well, the USSR didn't count money, yeah. But where is it now?
                    1. -1
                      24 December 2025 18: 29
                      The Hornet could not lose to the YF-16, for the simple reason that it did not exist yet.
                      1. +1
                        24 December 2025 19: 39
                        So the YF-17 is a fundamentally different aircraft than the Hornet?
                    2. 0
                      28 December 2025 10: 33
                      "Well, the USSR didn't count money, yeah right..." Five-year plans had material balances for many items. How can you produce tractors without planning for ore mining, steel production, and so on... You had to count. And what about the price stability that was printed on the technical data sheets back at the factory? Decades... The USSR began to deteriorate when they switched from planning in units to planning in tons... This sharply reduced management efficiency and responsibility for the real economy. Under the USSR and Stalin, there were already steps towards communism—annual price cuts. Don't confuse the USSR with various leadership figures. The USSR is different.
                  2. 0
                    24 December 2025 23: 59
                    This fighter was intended to replace the MiG-31

                    The MiG 1.44 was conceived as a competitor to the Su-27 and its replacement.
                    Or maybe MiG didn't have the MiG-25 and MiG-31

                    These are interceptors, not multi-role fighters, as the MiG-1.44 was intended to be.
                    In 1987, the preliminary design was defended, and in 1991, the preliminary design and model of the aircraft, which received the index "MFI" - multi-role frontline fighter.

                    The MiGs stubbornly refused to return to their niche as light single-engine fighters. They played the game to the point of the design bureau's collapse :((
                    Or is the US Hornet not twin-engine?
                    Or is the Rafale not the same?
                    Or Eurofighter?

                    The Hornet is primarily a carrier-based fighter.
                    The Rafale and Eurofighter are European, and they don't have, and never had, the ability to differentiate between heavy and single-engine fighters. They don't have the same production volumes as the Americans with the F-15 and F-16. Moreover, the Europeans knew they could buy the F-16 from the Americans if necessary.
                    Therefore, the Europeans chose the medium-sized version, keeping in mind that their American allies had both heavy and single-engine versions. As a result, the USSR was left without a relatively inexpensive single-engine version, and it had no ally like the United States.
                    What exactly were the technical specifications that both design bureaus received?
                    Sukhoi was tasked with making a heavy fighter, while the Mikoyan design bureau was tasked with making a light one. So, that's what they did—strictly according to the specifications.

                    Initially, the competition was for a single aircraft, a response to the American F-15. Both Sukhoi and MiG engineers were developing it. But when MiG engineers saw what the Sukhoi had produced, they realized they were losing to Sukhoi and, through their connections, managed to split the project into two. They essentially secured a design for an already developed aircraft, which they had originally intended to meet the same requirements as the Sukhoi.
                    The immediate reason for their beginning was incoming information about the ongoing development in the United States of the McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle and Northrop P-530 Cobra fighters (the predecessor of the YF-17).

                    In 1972, two scientific and technical councils were held with representatives from the Sukhoi, Yakovlev, and Mikoyan firms, resulting in the Yak-45 and Yak-47 designs being eliminated from the competition. The MiG Design Bureau's management proposed splitting the PFI program and developing two fighters in parallel—a heavy and a light one.

                    And the design bureau was preparing a project for a single-engine fighter.

                    When and which one is this?
                    1. 0
                      25 December 2025 01: 10
                      Quote from solar
                      The MiG 1.44 was conceived as a competitor to the Su-27 and its replacement.

                      As a next-generation fighter, i.e., a 5th-generation one, but there was no emphasis on stealth at the time. Back then, fighter generations were thought to change every 10 years. Sukhoi was also working on the S-47, which, it seemed, would be even heavier. The Air Force wasn't particularly interested in it, but the Navy was interested in it for the future Ulyanovsk nuclear-powered aircraft carrier as a long-range carrier-based strike aircraft.
                      Quote from solar
                      These are interceptors, not multi-role fighters, as the MiG-1.44 was intended to be.

                      Multirole fighters were just emerging as a class back then, so they simply couldn't have existed before, and no specifications for them had been issued. A specialist is always better than a generalist. The US Air Force quickly realized this, introducing specialization into pilot training for the Hornet and creating the two-seat attack version, the Igla.
                      Quote from solar
                      The MiG designers stubbornly refused to return to their niche as light single-engine fighters. They played the game to the point of the design bureau's collapse:

                      Did anyone drive them there?
                      Or maybe they were reproached? Or was the MiG-29 considered a failure?
                      Quote from solar
                      As a result, the USSR was left without a relatively cheap single-engine aircraft, and it did not have an ally like the United States.

                      The USSR didn't remain, but received a new light frontline fighter, the MiG-29, which was guaranteed to defeat any contemporary light enemy fighter. And it was the best in its class. And I repeat once again: the USSR made a decision, approved by the Ministry of Defense and the government, "From now on, we build ONLY twin-engine fighters."
                      Moreover, the US was already working on a new light fighter, and the future F-16 and F-18 were participating in the competition. So, in our country, the division into light and heavy classes was adopted quite deliberately.
                      And yes, the Sukhoi Design Bureau proposed to follow the Su-27 with a single-engine fighter using the AL-31F, and even offered a carrier-based version. But the customer disappeared—the USSR was no more.
                      Quote from solar
                      When the Migovites saw what Su had achieved, they realized that they were losing to Sukhoi and, through their connections, managed to split the project into two.

                      In the light-weight category, the MiG-29 could never match the heavy Su-27 in principle. Not in range, not in combat load, not in radar power, and therefore not in the range of the air-to-air missiles. It was the best in its class in the world. And in the guise of the MiG-29M and MiG-29K/KUB, it has grown into a mid-range fighter. This is useful for carrier-based multi-role fighters and for export to countries for whom heavy fighters are surplus.
                      Quote from solar
                      And the design bureau was preparing a project for a single-engine fighter.
                      When and which one is this?

                      The single-engine 5th-generation LFMI, the same one that became the basis for the Su-75. UAC took the project from MiG and handed it over to the Sukhoi Design Bureau, which adapted it to their engine and the Su-57 cockpit. During development, some aerodynamic changes were introduced. The reason for handing the project over to competitors was that the Sukhoi Design Bureau was willing to implement the project at its own expense, but also under its own brand, using Su-57 technology.
                      The Mikoyan Design Bureau had been working on heavy twin-engine fighters since the 50s and never stopped working on them.
                      1. -1
                        25 December 2025 10: 15
                        He was the best in the world in his class.

                        In the class MiG conceived for itself and pursued through its own connections. The result was an expensive, dead-end project. If this hadn't happened, the next competition would have been for a single-engine aircraft, in response to the F-16.
                        Single-engine LFMI 5th generation.

                        Can you provide a link to anything the MiG engineers have developed beyond just paper drawings "in the style of the F-35"? I've never even seen such pictures. Not to mention that at one time, there were rumors in the Military District about the LFMI (known as the LFMS) that it was planned to be twin-engine with some mythical plasma-based invisibility.
                        https://topwar.ru/179027-posle-desjati-let-mig-lmfs-ostanetsja-bez-klientov-na-zapade-ocenili-hod-rabot-po-novomu-istrebitelju.html
                        The same one that became the basis for the Su-75.

                        From what is written about the Su-75, it is completely based on the Su-57, similar to the F22-F35.
                      2. 0
                        25 December 2025 12: 05
                        Quote from solar

                        In the class that MiG invented for itself and got through its connections.

                        Did it also work for the Hornet, Rafale and Eurofighter?
                        Once again, I'll reiterate the MiG-29 in its original form—a light frontline fighter. Its conventional peers were the F-16, F-18, Mirage 2000, and, a little later, the Rafale.
                        It became a "medium" fighter in the MiG-29M/M2, MiG-29K/KUB, and MiG-35 modifications. These had a larger airframe and more powerful engines. And all these heavier modifications derive from the naval version developed in the late Soviet era. And it wasn't the MiG that came up with the idea of ​​putting two engines on a light fighter; those were the requirements of the technical specifications. The USSR built submarines out of titanium; it could afford it.
                        Quote from solar
                        Can you provide a link that the MiG people developed anything more than just pictures on paper "in the F-35 style"?

                        There was nothing but paper and probably electronic drawings, except perhaps a mockup. The design bureau didn't have the money for it. The Russian Ministry of Defense had no need for it, and no foreign customers willing to pay for the full development cycle were found. There were sketches and pictures, but the government had no intention of returning anyone, especially the MiG design bureau, to the "light single-engine fighter niche." The government only needed heavy twin-engine fighters. And the Sukhoi designers were developing the Su-75 on their own initiative for export, since the Ministry of Defense (at least for now) has no interest in this aircraft.
                        Quote from solar
                        I haven't even seen pictures like this.

                        So it was no luck.
                        Quote from solar
                        From what is written about the Su-75, it is completely based on the Su-57

                        It's not "based" on a fighter project (fully calculated) by the MiG design bureau, adapted from the Su-57 – the promising Izdeliye-177 engine, cockpit, skin materials and coating, and a slightly modified air intake configuration. Everything else is from the MiG design bureau. Currently, as the project develops, the aerodynamic profile of the airframe is being slightly modified. In terms of "benefiting the barrel," this is indeed better – Sukhoi has the money and ready-made technologies, the engine, cockpit, avionics, composite airframe manufacturing technologies and special coating that absorbs electromagnetic radiation. They will get everything done faster. But the airframe and radar (so far this is what they have stated – the same active electronically scanned array (AESA) that was created for the MiG-35S) were used as the basis for this.
                        Quote from solar
                        by analogy with F22-F35.

                        This is complete nonsense. The companies are different, the engines are DIFFERENT, and the "Lightning" as an airframe and engine were developed by the Yakovlev Design Bureau in the 90s with American money. When the project was ready for implementation in metal, and most importantly, the R-279V-300 engine and the rotating nozzle were ready, the American side signed an intergovernmental contract, and the Yakovlev Design Bureau design team and a group of engine designers went to the USA under this contract, where they created the F-35V. The engine was modified in the USA, for which they used, among other things, heat-resistant alloys and coatings tested on the F-22 engine, but this concerned not the design or architecture itself, but the materials and probably the electronic controls. And even more so - the rotating afterburner nozzle with adjustable cross-section. Some of our designers, having fulfilled the contract, returned to Moscow, and the rest stayed, signing a new contract. I discussed this with one of the members of that design team at the Yakovlev Design Bureau. He showed me a watch with an inscription/engraving of gratitude from President Bush Jr. for this work.

                        Regarding the Yak-130, the technical specifications issued back in the Soviet era clearly stipulated two engines, so that cadets would learn to fly a twin-engine fighter during the final stage of flight training. Because there was a strict rule: "from now on, only twin-engine fighters." This was a deliberate choice, and the USSR had no intention of skimping on its defense capabilities.
                    2. osp
                      +1
                      25 December 2025 02: 10
                      Let's not forget that the MiG-29 was originally an aircraft with mechanical control links.
                      This provided an advantage in cost and production complexity over the Su-27, which had an EFB. That's it.
                      But as soon as they started making the two-seat MiG-29UB, problems with stability immediately began, so much so that it was decided to abandon the radar altogether - it couldn't handle it.
                      While the Su-27UB had a full-fledged radar and the combat capabilities of a single-seat fighter.
                      What's next?
                      When the MiG-29KUB, MiG-29M2 and MiG-35 appeared, they already received the KSU and that very same electronic stability.
                      Just like heavy Sukhoi aircraft.
                      And the price is very high - it is the same as that of heavy fighters.
                      And those specific advantages of 9-12, 9-13 with mechanical wiring are lost.
                      Structurally, it is now a heavy fighter.
              2. +1
                23 December 2025 23: 55
                The MiG-35K is better, after all. Much better. No matter how puffed up your cheeks.
                And for Iran, the MiG-35SE, as well as their mountain airfields and underground airbase capabilities, are just the thing. I've long suggested they order 150 MiG-35S and 75 Su-35S fighters and upgrade their air force with these two types. They kept fiddling around until the Israelis finally got their act together.
                And for the DPRK and its mountains, the MiG-35S is the best solution. Not the only one, but the optimal one, and therefore the best.
                And for Venezuela.
                And for Cuba.
                And for a number of other countries.

                This is a truism understood by all reasonable people. Unfortunately, reasonable people are rare, as usual. Are you by any chance aware of what they decided about the Su-57 during their last visit to India? They're keeping quiet about it...
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                  24 December 2025 00: 14
                  Quote: the most important
                  Are you by any chance aware of what India decided about the Su-57 during their last visit? They're keeping quiet about it...

                  These days, all major arms contracts are kept secret, and information is released in very limited quantities. What is known for certain is that work is underway on a large and highly complex contract for the licensed assembly of Su-57Es in India from our kits. This contract is very profitable for us, because, when calculated per aircraft, it includes the cost of the kit + license + assembly line setup + training of pilots, aircraft mechanics, technologists, assembly fitters, etc. Overall, one aircraft assembled in India will bring us more money than simply selling it ready-made, but there's less hassle and our own assembly lines won't be overloaded. We're currently talking about purchasing between 24 and over 40 Su-57Es assembled in India, and the first contract is for the supply of over 150 kits for assembly. In total, the Indians plan to build and buy about 300 Su-57Es, but these will be several consecutive contracts, as was the case with the Su-30MKI. Assembling this entire batch will take them at least 15 years, working hard.
                  But India's interests aren't limited to that. They're currently preparing a modernization program for their entire Su-30MKI fleet (they have around 300 of them), and we'll definitely be involved, but the extent is unclear. There's a lot of interest in the promising Su-75, but it won't be in production until the next decade. India might even consider purchasing MiG-35S and MiG-35Ks. There will definitely be a major contract (being prepared) for the licensed assembly of SSZh-100s in India from our kits, and a fairly large batch at that. Helicopter contracts are also expected, including for several hundred Ka-226s (200+) and... I think there might be something else, too. That's for aviation. There are also some very serious air defense orders. I think contracts will be signed next year, when they are properly calculated, agreed upon, and each clause is written out. There will be a whole series of them.
                  There are plenty of other people who want to do it too.
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            23 December 2025 20: 14
            Quote: VlK
            What prevented them from returning to this niche, lack of resources for a new project?
            restructuring am
      3. +4
        23 December 2025 15: 16
        Quote: bayard
        In the Little Army that Shoigu was building, there were supposed to be FEW aircraft, so they decided to buy only heavy ones.

        The decision to purchase large quantities of Sukhoi aircraft was made while the furniture maker was still in office. And the decisive factor was the existence of an active serial production facility, something only Irkutsk and Komsomolsk-on-Amur could boast at the time.
        This, by the way, is the reason for the two types of Sukhoi missiles being purchased - because at the time of the purchase, two factories were making two different foreign orders, which were ordered with minimal modifications.
        1. 0
          23 December 2025 21: 33
          This, by the way, is the reason for the two types of Sukhoi missiles being purchased - because at the time of the purchase, two factories were making two different foreign orders, which were ordered with minimal modifications.

          This, in my opinion, also implies the impossibility of producing the MiG-35. If we can't repurpose the plant from one Su-3 to another (and the same is true for the Mi-8), then how can all the MiG fans propose producing them with everything they come with?
  3. 0
    23 December 2025 06: 06
    2002 is further from 2025 than 1988 is from 2002, so think about it, what is it like to offer the BMP-1 to the market now in the age of 4-axle wheeled armored personnel carriers?
  4. 13+
    23 December 2025 06: 19
    Indeed, something strange is happening: you'd think the Su-75 would be there, you could slander, predict, and analyze as much as you like, but no. That same MiG-35 is haunting the other side.

    Maybe it's because the MiG can be buried, but the Su-21 can't? Plus, there's the monopoly within Russia, where competitors are being squeezed. I think it's impossible to rely on Sukhoi alone, but we live in capitalism now.
    1. +9
      23 December 2025 08: 33
      I think you can’t rely on Sukhoi alone, but now we have capitalism.

      not just capitalism, but a variety of it - feudal...
      which does not allow anyone to do anything "without permission"...
    2. +3
      23 December 2025 15: 18
      Quote: Per se.
      I think we can’t rely on Sukhoi alone, but we now have capitalism.

      So the market decided. How many foreign orders did Sukhoi fulfill, and how many did Mikoyan and Gurevich fulfill?
      1. 0
        24 December 2025 07: 31
        Quote: Alexey RA
        That's how the market decided.
        Yes, I decided, that's why money is the yardstick, here and now. We need to urgently rearm our army, and whether there are massive orders for Sukhoi products, exports, or foreign currency, that will be a priority. And there's a shortage of personnel and capacity. What can we say about the nearly bankrupt MiG, let alone the revival of the VTOL aircraft project based on the Yak-141's developments? That won't bring in quick cash.
  5. +7
    23 December 2025 06: 25
    Numerous mock battles were conducted between the West German and East German air forces, and East German MiG-29s convincingly defeated both American F-15s and F-16s and French Mirage 2000s. Did this happen? It did.


    I don't understand why Russia can't conduct mock combat between the MiG-35 and the Su-30/35? If the MiG-35 is truly superior, its production should be continued, the design school should be preserved, and the aircraft should be further modernized, improving the reliability and service life of its engines.

    The Air Defense Forces showed that in the fourth year of the war we had not knocked out all of the enemy's MiG-29s, and that the enemy had adapted these aircraft to launch precision bombs and, unfortunately, was using them successfully.

    Russia won't go broke if we have 2-3 regiments flying MiG-35s.
    1. 10+
      23 December 2025 06: 58
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      I don’t understand why Russia can’t hold training battles between the MiG-35 and the Su-30/35?

      Why? The MiG-35's capabilities are well-known. The first production aircraft are usually transferred to a special center, where test pilots push them to the limit, and based on the results, combat instructions are written for their use.
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      If the MiG-35 is truly good at something, then its production should be continued, and the design school should be preserved.

      It looks like there's nothing left to save there for a long time now.
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      Russia won't go broke if we have 2-3 regiments flying MiG-35s.

      Why? Considering the money that would have to be spent on restoring production, deploying supplies, etc., it would be easier to just bring the Su-75 up to standard.
      1. +3
        23 December 2025 07: 49
        Why? The MiG-35's capabilities are well-known. The first production aircraft are usually transferred to a special center, where test pilots push them to the limit, and based on the results, combat instructions are written for their use.


        Then, to test this aircraft in a training battle and compare it with those used as the main one.

        Western countries go to great lengths to ensure their pilots gain experience countering Russian-made aircraft, even though they know the performance characteristics of our aircraft, and only in Russia does the decision-making rest with a fatso in general's uniform. But then it turns out that in war, everything is different and works completely differently than described in regulations and manuals.

        In my opinion, Sukhoi is simply afraid of competition and is trying with all its might to suppress the MiG-35 in order not to lose orders.

        But in the end, the country ends up losing experienced designers, MiG-35 production, and foreign orders.

        The MiG niche on the international market is occupied by the Rafale and F-16.

        The cessation of production of the MiG-35 is a crime.
        1. +6
          23 December 2025 08: 11
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          and only in Russia does a fat man in general's uniform decide everything.

          I see:))) Well, since you are absolutely sure of this, I don’t dare insist.
        2. 11+
          23 December 2025 10: 06
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          Why? The MiG-35's capabilities are well-known. The first production aircraft are usually transferred to a special center, where test pilots push them to the limit, and based on the results, combat instructions are written for their use.


          Then, to test this aircraft in a training battle and compare it with those used as the main one.

          Western countries go to great lengths to ensure their pilots gain experience countering Russian-made aircraft, even though they know the performance characteristics of our aircraft, and only in Russia does the decision-making rest with a fatso in general's uniform. But then it turns out that in war, everything is different and works completely differently than described in regulations and manuals.

          In my opinion, Sukhoi is simply afraid of competition and is trying with all its might to suppress the MiG-35 in order not to lose orders.

          But in the end, the country ends up losing experienced designers, MiG-35 production, and foreign orders.

          The MiG niche on the international market is occupied by the Rafale and F-16.

          The cessation of production of the MiG-35 is a crime.


          We have already tested it hundreds of times in training battles.
          The MiG-35 was completely outclassed in all air combat by all versions of the Su-30MK and M2 produced under foreign contracts, and was completely outclassed by the Su-35S.

          The MiG-35 has 18-20 percent lower fuel consumption, making it much more efficient than the Su-30/35.
          Production costs are roughly the same in comparison. The MiG-35 may be about 5 percent cheaper.

          The cost of owning a modern fighter jet for a period of 20-25 years is 5-6-10 times higher than its purchase price.
          And the cost of owning the same MiG-35 may even be higher than the cost of owning the Su-35S...
          With much more disastrous comparative characteristics.


          The MiG-35 really has NO role in world aviation NOW and IN THE FUTURE!
          1. -7
            23 December 2025 12: 23
            Really? It depends on who set the "battle" conditions. And how did he lose? In a long-range missile battle, yes, but that's because the Su-27 has a more powerful radar—it's a heavy fighter, no way. But in a dogfight, no. The MiG, although twin-engine, is lighter than the Su-27. Back in the day, the 29-mm F-16 was faster in turns than the 16-mm F-16, even though it was heavier. And don't forget, Mikoyan almost immediately created an aircraft with excellent performance characteristics, unlike the Sukhoi Design Bureau, which had to radically redesign its T-10 because it looked so poor next to the F-15.
            1. +2
              23 December 2025 14: 30
              Quote from AdAstra
              The MiG, although twin-engine, is lighter than the Sukhoi. In its day, the 29 was faster in turns than the 16, even though it was heavier. And don't forget, Mikoyan almost immediately created an aircraft with remarkable performance characteristics.


              not okay.
              The same Su-30SM2 is significantly superior to the MiG-35 in thrust and maneuver dynamics in the same dogfight.
            2. +1
              23 December 2025 21: 38
              Quote from AdAstra
              but in a dog fight - no, the MiG, although twin-engine, is lighter than the Su,

              Weight doesn't matter in a BVB - what matters is the radius of a steady turn, and there it's not the mass that matters, but the thrust-to-weight ratio.
              1. -2
                24 December 2025 08: 52
                If my memory serves me correctly, and the data I've read is correct, the MiG-29 had a higher thrust-to-weight ratio than the Su-27, approximately 1,11 and 1,07, respectively, if I recall correctly. And given that the 35 doesn't fly on RD-33 engines from the 80s, this parameter should be maintained. Until now, clashes between the MiG-29 and Su-27, again, as far as I know from printed publications, have only occurred in Africa, and these were medium- and long-range missile battles, in which, yes, the Su-27, even the export version, has an advantage over the export MiG-29, not a "dog fight."
        3. +1
          23 December 2025 11: 39
          I don't quite agree with you! Competition is a good thing on one hand, but if it's used with the wrong intentions, it's a bad thing! But the MiG-35 is still no competitor to the Su-35S, and I assure you it's not just a matter of performance characteristics; the Su-35's radar is superior due to its longer range! (and in terms of status, these are two different directions, the Su-35S, so to speak, for air superiority, and the MiG-35 is a workhorse for everything, but in a slightly different way. They were both created as fighters capable of striking ground targets - but according to those who served on the MiG-29, it was more focused on air strikes against any ground targets (so the MiG is versatility versus some sharpening of the Su-35S for specific conditions)! The same Gripen is not equal to the MiG-35, the fact that the Gripen is not a bad fighter in its class is true! But it is not so versatile, and even with that cool avionics, it is not a fact that it will have an advantage over the old MiG-35! And most importantly, the MiG-35 can still be improved, or maybe they are working on it, who knows! It is not for nothing that North Korea liked it! But do not forget that now it is in greater demand, and especially the work is in full swing to replace the MiG 31, maybe that’s why everything is not as we want it to be!
        4. 0
          25 December 2025 12: 07
          Ha, it was the fatties in general's uniforms who, back in the day, tried to fight off the MiG-29 with everything they could. It didn't work. The fatties in suits finally managed to sneak the MiG-29 in with the dry one.
        5. 0
          28 December 2025 10: 51
          Why is antitrust legislation so strong in the United States? And here's a cosmological example. Over millions and billions of years, nature has preserved a vast diversity of species, and new ones are still emerging. It would be foolish to deny it objectivity, as its primary goal is survival.
      2. VlK
        0
        23 December 2025 10: 54
        Why? Considering the money that would have to be spent on restoring production, deploying supplies, etc., it would be easier to just bring the Su-75 up to standard.

        The MiG-35 is already flying and fighting, while the Su-75 is still just a design and prototype, and no one knows when (or if) it will fly, much less enter service. In other words, one is already here and now, while the other isn't even here yet.
        1. +8
          23 December 2025 11: 01
          Quote: VlK
          The MiG-35 is already flying and fighting.

          In a stripped-down state and with an outdated radar, it's woefully inferior to the Su-57, Su-35, and apparently even the Su-30. Moreover, they were assembled in a haphazard manner; there's no industrial capacity for large-scale serial production. So the aircraft needs reworking, the industrial capacity needs refurbishment, and the end result is still an obsolete aircraft. Why?
          1. VlK
            +2
            23 December 2025 11: 12
            The radar can be replaced during modernization, but what else is obsolete? The lack of fashionable stealth—but in my opinion, that requires the deployment of a modern situational awareness system, of which such an aircraft is only one element. And as a simple air fighter, is it really that inferior to 5th-generation aircraft? For mid-sized countries like ours, with a modest territory, such a versatile aircraft—more reliable than a single-engine fighter, cheaper than a heavy twin-engine fighter, plus the ability to be based on airfields—in my opinion, is potentially close to the ideal option for a single multi-functional fighter. With a modern radar, of course. So, they should export it to North Korea, Iran, and so on. And it would probably also be useful in Belarus, with its limited theater of operations.
            1. +4
              23 December 2025 14: 59
              Belarus made its decision on this matter long ago. The MiG-29 is gradually being replaced by the Su-30.
            2. 0
              23 December 2025 21: 31
              Quote: VlK
              For mid-sized countries like ours, with a relatively small territory, such a versatile fighter, more reliable than a single-engine fighter and cheaper than a heavy twin-engine fighter, plus the ability to be based on field airfields, is, in my opinion, potentially close to the ideal option for a single multi-role fighter.

              Well, that's the point, no. Until such a "universal" aircraft costs 1.5 to 2 times less than a normal heavy-lift equivalent, not only in procurement but also in operation, it will be decisively inferior to heavy aircraft. For mid-sized countries that already have some pretensions to dominance in their zone, but have no trace of, say, a fully-fledged air force like the US, China, or even Israel, where training and maintenance are determined not by the individual capabilities of the aircraft and crew, but by the system, heavy, universal aircraft will always be preferable given such a price difference. In fact, even your list shows that, with the exception of North Korea, all other countries are abandoning "cheap" MiGs in favor of the versatile Su-47s.
      3. 0
        28 December 2025 14: 16
        Why? The MiG-35's capabilities are already well-known. 


        Yeah, before the SVO I often heard that the Bradley was rubbish as an IFV, but practice has shown that it is the best combat vehicle today.

        I'm not interested in the opinions of individual experts based on performance characteristics; I want to see training battles and their results.

        And if the MiG-35 and especially the MiG-29 are so useless, then why are the Ukrainian Armed Forces still fighting with them quite successfully?

        Perhaps its small size compared to the Su-27 and the ability to take off from unpaved airfields gives it greater survivability?!

        Now imagine that the MiG-35's avionics and armament will be able to do the same as the Su-30 and Su-35, with the exception of the radar detection range.

        The Americans have the F-15 and F-16, and for some reason the F/A-18.

        1. 0
          28 December 2025 14: 48
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          I want to see training battles and their results.

          Go to the appropriate centers where our aircraft are tested in the manner I described and ensure you have the appropriate level of access - and you will be happy.
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          And if the MiG-35 and especially the MiG-29 are so useless, then why are the Ukrainian Armed Forces still fighting with them quite successfully?

          What do you mean, "quite successfully"? :))) How many planes did the MiG-29s of the Ukrainian Armed Forces shoot down?
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          Perhaps its small size compared to the Su-27 and the ability to take off from unpaved airfields gives it greater survivability?!

          No.
    2. +1
      23 December 2025 08: 10
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      If the MiG-35 is really good at something, then its production should be continued.
      Today, technology has advanced so much that even aircraft structural components are now made from materials different from those used just a couple of decades ago. Even such a conservative material in aircraft construction as aluminum, which has always been widely used in aircraft, is no longer suitable – it is being seriously challenged by composites, which allow for a reduction in airframe weight, which, combined with other technical characteristics, ensures aircraft maneuverability and fuel economy. And it has already been mentioned here that The Su-75 needs to be improved, rather than resorting to voodoo, jumping around a fire with a drum to revive a dead project. Something like that...
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      The Air Defense Forces showed that by the fourth year of the war we had not destroyed all of the enemy's MiG-29s.
      This is only because the task of enemy fighter aircraft is to combat drones, cruise missiles, and UMPK, without entering the area of ​​responsibility of our air defense...
    3. 0
      23 December 2025 08: 35
      Russia won't go brokeIf we have 2-3 regiments flying MiG-35s

      It seems to me that the issue here is not economic, but political...
    4. +1
      23 December 2025 20: 04
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      I don’t understand why Russia can’t hold training battles between the MiG-35 and the Su-30/35?
      There was a war between the Su-27 and the MiG-29 (Ethiopia-Eritrea). The Su-27 won, almost to the point.
    5. +1
      23 December 2025 20: 19
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      By the fourth year of the war, we had not knocked out all of the enemy's MiG-29s.
      They received virtually all the MiG-29s that were delivered to the "brotherly countries" of the Warsaw Pact, minus those killed by their "brothers." And that's more than the number of Ukrainians shot down.
      1. +1
        24 December 2025 12: 01
        They received almost all of the MiG-29s that were at one time delivered to the "brotherly countries" of the Warsaw Pact.

        Please name this huge number (I’ll give you a hint, less than 30, if you count the Azerbaijani ones that were stuck in repairs and were bought out by non-brothers).
        1. 0
          24 December 2025 17: 29
          Poland is now giving up the rest.
          The MiG-29, Su-25 and Su-24 are used to launch all NATO-guided weapons.
          While some people here are still discussing some dog fights and doggy styles.
          1. 0
            24 December 2025 18: 28
            Poland is now giving up the rest.

            I know about it. About 30 units were handed over in "used antique" condition, and for three years now, horror stories have been told at VO with bated breath.
            Some people are still discussing some dog fights and doggy styles.

            Comrade Bayard was telling me a year and a half or two ago how "the factories are already ready to produce the MiG-35," how absolutely necessary it is. Now he's seeing things in Iran, and the Indians are eager to buy MiGs...
            It's pure Traumwelt. Sometimes I even envy it.
  6. 0
    23 December 2025 06: 47
    Overall, there's potential. It's not yet clear who the buyer will be.

    You couldn't have said it better)))
  7. 0
    23 December 2025 07: 25
    The question is, ace pilots, divine tankers, and infantry snipers are unfortunately few in number due to various reasons, starting with genetics. And it's mostly C-grade students who fight and serve. And such people need simple, reliable weapons. If the MiG-35 is going to be a contender, then it needs to be built for C-grade pilots, and only then can it be given super-aircraft. hi
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  9. 10+
    23 December 2025 07: 49
    It seems we lack a scientific school that evaluates aircraft performance, the prospects for aviation development, and has an impact on production. Therefore, individuals like Pogosyan, for the sake of their own pockets, have practically buried their competitors from the MiG and, in fact, harmed the state.
    1. 0
      28 December 2025 10: 59
      Someone wrote a long time ago that the "Taburetka IDEOLOGY" had drastically reduced the number of military engineering officers, leaving no one to write specifications for new equipment. This was evident during the drone fiasco, and continues to this day with the unmanned aerial vehicles.
  10. 13+
    23 December 2025 08: 12
    The MiG-35 is a renamed MiG-29SMT. Just like the T-90 is a renamed T-72. A rebranding to boost exports. And secondly, the Mikoyan Design Bureau fell victim to interdepartmental intrigue. It no longer exists. And there's no one left to develop the aircraft. And there's no point. Development of the MiG-29 has run its course.
    1. +2
      23 December 2025 08: 38
      And secondly, the Mikoyan Design Bureau fell victim to interdepartmental intrigue. It no longer exists. And there's no one left to develop the aircraft. And there's no point. Development of the MiG-29 has run its course.

      and yet, an alternative to Sukhoi is needed...
    2. +1
      23 December 2025 12: 25
      Nope, it's a renamed MiG-29M. Yes
      1. +5
        23 December 2025 15: 53
        Yes, you are right - this is a "renaming" of a hybrid of the MiG-29M/M2 and MiG-29KUB in one bottle.
    3. 0
      23 December 2025 22: 44
      Quote: Rooivalk
      The MiG-35 is a redesignation of the MiG-29SMT, just as the T-90 is a redesignation of the T-72.

      I disagree! The MiG-29SMT is further removed from the MiG-35 than the T-72 is from the T-90!
  11. +7
    23 December 2025 08: 44
    The Su-57 will definitely play in the light fighter class. Since when did the Su-57 become a "light fighter"? belay If Skomorokhov "proves" this, then I will agree that the "Armata" flies! wassat
    1. +2
      23 December 2025 09: 39
      This is obviously a typo. It refers to the Su-75.
  12. +1
    23 December 2025 09: 32
    Will the Indians want the MiG-35? They're already looking at the Su-57E. Algeria has already received the first aircraft.
    1. -3
      23 December 2025 11: 40
      Quote: dragon772
      Will the Indians want the MiG-35? They're already looking at the Su-57E.

      What's needed here is a proper merchant approach! Want a Su-57? Take it, but with a "load"! A MiG-35 will help you! "If they don't take it, we'll turn off the gas!" (The credo of Soviet housing managers!)
      1. +3
        23 December 2025 15: 21
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        What's needed here is a proper merchant approach! Want a Su-57? Take it, but with a "load"!

        This is an approach from more recent times. Want Dumas? Get it, but only with the complete works of this distinguished member of the Writers' Union... just you wait—we'll dig him out of the dust.
        1. 0
          28 December 2025 11: 05
          I don't understand this stupid, all-encompassing "Putin" anti-Sovietism. After all, the designers of this MiG were raised on precisely this kind of literature. And what about Dumas—in today's terminology: an organized crime group preventing Richelieu from strengthening the country.
          1. 0
            29 December 2025 16: 59
            Quote: Samoyed
            I just don’t understand this stupid, all-encompassing “Putin’s” anti-Sovietism.

            If any memory of the real USSR is considered anti-Soviet, it is no wonder that the Supreme Court is now completely rehabilitating people for "anti-Soviet propaganda." smile
      2. 0
        24 December 2025 14: 24
        These are different types of aircraft. And who needs a raw MiG-35? The Su-57 has already been combat-tested, and there is demand, albeit limited, for it.
  13. +4
    23 December 2025 09: 57
    Many words. But little is shown = and -.

    And once, about 5 years ago, the cost was cited as the reason for the failure of the MIG 35.
    That is, repeating the reduced general appearance and concept of the SU 35, but inferior in range, carrying capacity, etc., by one and a half times, it cost only slightly less....

    For parades (siskins) - just right. For real service - a bit pricey...
  14. +9
    23 December 2025 11: 00
    Well, the author really messed it up in one paragraph.
    And let them not be as expensive as the F-15 and F-16, not as soft-advanced and therefore insanely expensive as the F-35 and more reliable than the F/A-18, which have recently gone crazy in terms of accidents.

    The F-15 is a heavy, expensive twin-engine aircraft, while the F-16 is a single-engine aircraft that is inexpensive and affordable to operate. The F-16's key feature is that its engine is designed to last the aircraft's entire lifespan and requires replacement only in extreme cases, which is why it remains in demand on the market.
    soft-advanced and therefore insanely expensive, like the F-35

    The author notes that the F-35 is an inexpensive single-engine aircraft. Its price, at 82 million rubles, is much lower than, for example, the Eurofighter or Rafale. At the same time, it can carry a combat load of over 8 tons—on par with the twin-engine Su-35.
    more reliable than the F/A-18, which has been going crazy with accidents lately

    The F-18 is one of the most reliable aircraft in the world; Canadians and Finns chose it specifically for its reliability in northern conditions. In most cases, the F-18 is used as a carrier-based aircraft, which places increased demands on the aircraft.
    1. 0
      24 December 2025 17: 43
      The Swedish Grippen is half of the F18 engine.
      The F16 is made by a different company for a different agency—competition and kickbacks. But yes, the F16 engine has a huge lifespan, about three times longer than Soviet engines—that's an advantage. Only recently have the new Sukhoi engines achieved acceptable lifespan, while the MiG engines remain short-lived.
      It's clear that the MiG is running up against not only the old airframe, but also the old engine. Essentially, a new, more versatile aircraft is needed, but that's no longer necessary because we have the Su-30. And it's easier to do what they do everywhere else, or even in China: take half of the new Su-30 engine and make a versatile, low-cost aircraft capable of both ground operations (the Kab-1500) and long-range air-to-air missions.
      The MiG-29 was inferior to the Su-27 from the very beginning and was accepted into service purely as a fighter with semi-sport capabilities, specifically with export in mind, as the Su-27 wasn't intended for that market. This concept is now outdated, or rather, has proven itself flawed – everyone wants a versatile aircraft with heavy, long-range weapons and a long combat radius, not an aircraft designed for maneuvering around an airfield. This is the reality, but its adherents find it hard to accept.
      1. VlK
        0
        24 December 2025 18: 30
        The F16 is made by a different company for a different agency—competition and kickbacks. But yes, the F16 engine has a huge lifespan, about three times longer than Soviet engines—that's an advantage. Only recently have the new Sukhoi engines achieved acceptable lifespan, while the MiG engines remain short-lived.

        How important is this for non-peacetime service, where any equipment is ultimately a consumable? Will they even have time to use up most of their lifespan during combat?
        1. 0
          25 December 2025 03: 43
          To ensure that aircraft and pilots aren't expendable, we need to focus on guided weapons, which the MiG-35 has problems with, as it can't carry heavy bombs or missiles, especially guided ones. The MiG-35 will be shot down at long range, and that's a problem. And it seems the problem is insurmountable with its old airframe.
  15. +3
    23 December 2025 11: 10
    The question is, will the industry cope? If production capacity exists, it should be put to work, and if not, there's no point in suing! Every factory has a chain of contractors who worked with the enterprise, shipped products, received payments, paid salaries, and even paid heating bills. What if it's "lawsuit-bankruptcy-insolvency administrator-equipment sale" (the standard pattern for the last 20 years?)? There's been a lot of information about problems at RSK MiG in recent years, and it's unlikely they'll just disappear. At one point, the Egyptian order for the MiG-29M and the Indian order for the MiG-29K could well have revived the MiG-35 project for their Air Forces, and it wouldn't have required that much money—maybe 2-3 percent of the now-frozen piggy bank—but it wasn't meant to be...
  16. +6
    23 December 2025 11: 17
    Indeed, something strange is happening: it would seem that there is a Su-75...

    There is, really there is? Can I take a look at it?
  17. +1
    23 December 2025 11: 27
    In the USSR, they knew how to count money and there was competition. If you supported the oligarchs and financiers and didn't invest in industry, you got what you deserved. Not a single person was punished for deindustrialization.
    1. +7
      23 December 2025 15: 24
      Quote: VenDora
      In the USSR they knew how to count money and there was competition.

      Somewhere Yakovlev and Ustinov are quietly laughing.
      The USSR managed to build hundreds, deliver them to the Air Force, and arm air regiments with jet aircraft that had never been accepted into service. They also delivered electronic warfare stations for DA aircraft to the Air Force, which provided less protection than the rear firing mount.
      1. +1
        28 December 2025 11: 16
        Nobody's talking about absolutes. It's always the ratio that matters. The Americans themselves say the military is refusing to take the F-35 back from the factory; it has many shortcomings, some critical. Yet, it's been accepted into service.
        Yes, there was theft in the USSR, but it was not an INCUBATOR of high-ranking officials who defected with state secrets and thieving generals.
        1. 0
          29 December 2025 16: 57
          Quote: Samoyed
          Yes, there was theft in the USSR, but it was not an INCUBATOR of high-ranking officials who defected with state secrets and thieving generals.

          Judging by the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Germany and the reduction of the Pacific Fleet, it is precisely incubator The USSR was a thieving generals' sect. Because in the Pacific Fleet, the sale of ships and the leasing of auxiliary fleet vessels for pennies was carried out under the command of Soviet-trained officers and (until recently) loyal sons of the Party.
  18. +4
    23 December 2025 12: 05
    I have the impression that every six months an article appears about the prospects of the MiG-35.
    Here is a similar article on topcor (https://topcor.ru/18623-100-istrebitelej-mig-35-mogut-otpravitsja-v-indiju.html) from 2021, which states that India is considering the possibility of acquiring 100 aircraft.
    Since then, India has acquired Rafales (though not 100). The MiG-35, for now, remains just the subject of such articles.
    So, judging by everything, there are no prospects.
  19. 0
    23 December 2025 12: 05
    I have the impression that every six months an article appears about the prospects of the MiG-35.
    Here is a similar article on topcor (https://topcor.ru/18623-100-istrebitelej-mig-35-mogut-otpravitsja-v-indiju.html) from 2021, which states that India is considering the possibility of acquiring 100 aircraft.
    Since then, India has acquired Rafales (though not 100). The MiG-35, for now, remains just the subject of such articles.
    So, judging by everything, there are no prospects.
    1. 0
      23 December 2025 12: 37
      How can I delete a duplicate comment now?
  20. -2
    23 December 2025 12: 09
    There was no Korea nearby. It was necessary to simply TRANSFER it for free and then many would be interested.
    1. -4
      23 December 2025 15: 17
      Perhaps the best option is to transfer MiG-35 production to North Korea. Engines and some avionics would be supplied from Russia, while the remaining components and assembly would be carried out in Korea. All 3 North Korean MiG-29s were assembled in North Korea from kits, and they are still in service despite the lack of spare parts supplies from Russia. So, the production base is there, and the cost would be lower than assembling them in Russia. If the aircraft and their operating costs are low, North Korea might be able to buy them. And perhaps Iran, Venezuela, and other countries that aren't intimidated by the US might as well.
      1. 0
        24 December 2025 17: 47
        I also wrote about this, considering they have the MiG-29. But it seems they already want the Su-30.
        1. 0
          24 December 2025 18: 37
          I haven't heard anything about this, but I think North Korea can't afford new aircraft. Only if they produce them themselves. So they're using their existing fleet. For example, they're installing air-to-ground cruise missiles on the Su-25. Obviously, the Su-25s are being upgraded for this purpose first.
          https://amalantra.ru/novaya-krylataya-raketa-kndr-pokazana-na-shturmovike-su-25/
          It is practically impossible for the DPRK Air Force to achieve parity with its adversary, South Korea and the United States.
          1. 0
            25 December 2025 03: 52
            The Koreans supply us with weapons, workers, and even soldiers. Plans to build a railway and a pipeline are being discussed. As a reliable ally, they can count on a lot.
            Their aviation is essentially a relic and they need a boost. Assembling the MiG-35 in Korea would give them a boost (of course, we would supply the engines and other components, which would also keep our factories busy). We don't particularly need the MiG-35, but it would help them update their fleet, especially given their experience with the MiG-29.
            But I think the problem here is the MiG-35's lack of versatility. Countries like Korea need a small, cheap, and versatile aircraft that can operate comfortably on the ground and launch 1,5-ton missiles at ranges of 300-500 km. Apparently, the MiG-35 has hit the ceiling of the MiG-29's base and can't withstand bombs heavier than 500 kg, all of which is compounded by its short combat radius.
            Therefore, countries like Korea will most likely switch to the new Sukhoi with a single engine, although a modified Mig-35 assembled in Korea would not be bad for them and for us.
            It wouldn't be a bad idea to give them the MiG-29 to start with—it's definitely better than what they have. We hardly use it here.
            1. 0
              25 December 2025 05: 50
              The MiG-35 can carry 6,5-7 tons on its underslung payload. It would be perfectly suited to the missions facing the DPRK Air Force. In my opinion, these include anti-naval combat and ground strikes. But at least 50-100 aircraft are needed.
              The export price of one MiG-35S fighter is estimated at $65 million, while the production cost is even lower. However, if you add operating costs and armament, it's still expensive. If the fighter-bombers are produced in Korea, their cost and maintenance will be significantly reduced.
              According to the Chinese Customs Administration, North Korea's exports are approximately $2 billion, while imports are approximately $6,5 billion. It's difficult to allocate foreign currency. However, offsetting these amounts is possible. For example, long-term contracts for the supply of ammunition and other military equipment from North Korea could be used. Korean shipbuilders, who can build a complete 5,000-ton missile ship in one year (they are not completed afloat, unlike the standard international practice), could be attracted to the USC shipyards.
              The issue is solvable, but the Russian authorities need to be willing to do so. For now, they want to move Su-57 production to India because it's hard cash, even if it's on credit.
              1. 0
                25 December 2025 09: 07
                The MiG-35 won't carry a StormShadow or P-37 fighter; its payload is only 500 kg, which is a major drawback. Especially for the future. Therefore, it immediately loses out to the Su-30 in terms of versatility.
                1. 0
                  25 December 2025 09: 45
                  It has a suspension load of only 500 kg.

                  Why not? The MiG-35 has a combat load of 6,500 kg, compared to the MiG-29's 2180 kg. It carries Kh-35 and Kh-31A missiles, which weigh 600-700 kg. Just because the KAB-1500 bombs aren't listed doesn't mean it can't carry them. Perhaps the pod simply needs to be redesigned.
                  1. 0
                    27 December 2025 21: 03
                    Yes, the X31 missiles weigh over 500 kg, while the specifications state bombs weigh up to 500 kg, which is a contradiction. However, 600 kg and 500 kg aren't that big a difference, and our bombs over 500 kg are immediately heavy – 1,5 tons. And the X69 missile weighs 800-900 kg. And the prospective missile similar to the Taurus will weigh almost the same 1,5 tons.
                    At the same time, external tanks, such as the central one, can carry 1150 kg of fuel. Theoretically, they could carry the X69 or P37.

                    The bigger question here is what was in the way and why they weren't done. I don't think anyone in their right mind would deny a new fighter new missiles. But nevertheless, that's exactly how it turned out.
                    1. 0
                      27 December 2025 21: 10
                      More precisely, 1150 liters of fuel
                    2. 0
                      27 December 2025 21: 42
                      Such a task was likely simply not set. Its predecessor, the MiG-29, was positioned as a frontline fighter. Accordingly, the MiG-35 was positioned as a multirole, 4++-generation fighter, designed primarily for air superiority and complementing the Sukhoi line. The budget version is 1,5 times cheaper than the Su-35.
                      1. 0
                        28 December 2025 09: 43
                        That was a mistake. The aircraft still turned out to be expensive and not versatile. What was needed was a Rafale/Eurofighter equivalent, an aircraft capable of using X69 missiles on the ground and R37 missiles in the air.
                2. 0
                  25 December 2025 09: 52
                  To integrate Storm Shadow missiles, Ukrainian MiG-29 and Su-24 fighters were modified to carry and fire these missiles.
                  1. 0
                    25 December 2025 14: 15
                    MiG-29 can't carry Storm Shadow because of its 500kg pylons, only Su-24 can.
                    Even the F16 can't carry the StormShadow, so only American Jasm missiles are suitable for it.
                    Grippen also can't carry the StormShadow due to weight restrictions, so a lighter Taurus was designed specifically for them - the KEPD 350K-2.
                    Full-fledged Tauruses, Scalps, and Storm Shadows can be carried by aircraft such as the Rafale, Eurofighter, Tornado, or Mirage—this is their versatility. Although the MiG-35 has better engine power than the Rafale, it lacks versatility—this is its main drawback.
                    There are no Su-24s in Europe; they're few in number, so they had to give it the F-16. Furthermore, the French adapted the MiG-29 to carry guided bombs and installed the same mount on the Su-25.
                    That's why there's talk of transferring Mirages and Grippens—we need something longer-range from Europe, not a bomb from the UMPK. The Su-24 isn't enough, just like the F-16, and Trump doesn't want to give us the JAM.
                    1. 0
                      25 December 2025 15: 34
                      In fact, it's claimed that the upgraded MiG-29 can launch Storm Shadow missiles. Since the MiG-29's combat load is 2100 kg, and the Storm Shadow weighs 1300 kg, it can only carry one missile under its belly. In Russian sources, I found only speculation from various "military experts."
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngY6eysOJV0
                      1. 0
                        26 December 2025 04: 25
                        The MiG-35 has an additional fuel tank, but it's smaller and lighter than the Taurus missile, which weighs nearly 1,4 tons. You can't keep tugging at grandma's hair forever.
                        The maximum that is theoretically possible is a smaller version like for the Gripen (and it has a lower warhead and a lower range), but in fact this does not exist.
                        The Brahmos barely fits into the Su30, and it’s far from a Taurus.
                      2. 0
                        26 December 2025 04: 36
                        From your comment, I still don’t understand why the MiG-35 cannot be modernized to use missiles with a mass and size comparable to the Storm Shadow.
                      3. 0
                        26 December 2025 04: 43
                        There's no room between the intakes; apparently, the central pylon under the fuel tank can't support the rocket's greater weight. If it were that easy, they'd already be flying in Ukraine.
                      4. 0
                        26 December 2025 07: 35
                        There's not enough space—the protruding intakes are in the way. And the pylons on the wings can't support the 1,5 tons.
                        Although the MiG engine is no worse than the Rafale's, a new aircraft is needed, and that's no longer practical—it's easier to build half of the new Sukhoi engine. Because the MiG-35 was way overpriced, it would have been more practical to buy a fully functional and versatile Sukhoi.

                        Dassault Mirage 2000
                        M53-5
                        Dry thrust: 54,0 kN (5500 kgf / 14,500 lbf)
                        Afterburning thrust: 86,3 kN (8800 kgf / 19400 lbf)
                        M53-P2
                        Dry thrust: 64,7 kN (6600 kgf / 14,500 lbf)
                        Afterburning thrust: 95,1 kN (9700 kgf / 21,400 lbf)

                        Saab JAS 39 Gripen
                        Engine: Volvo Aero RM12
                        Maximum thrust: 1 * 62,3 kN
                        afterburner thrust: 1 * 98,0 kN

                        F / A-18F
                        2 × General Electric F414-GE-400 turbofans
                        13,000 lbf (58 kN) thrust each dry
                        22,000 lbf (98 kN) with afterburner

                        Eurofighter Typhoon
                        Engines: 2*Eurojet EJ 200 turbofan engines
                        Link:
                        maximum: 2*6120 kgf (60 kN)
                        afterburner: 2*9180 kgf (90 kN)

                        Dassault Rafale
                        Engine: 2 *SNECMA M88-2-E4
                        Maximum thrust: 2 * 50,0 kN
                        afterburner thrust: 2 *75,0 kN

                        Mig-29
                        Model: RD-33
                        Link:
                        maximum: 2 * 5040 kgf = 49 kN
                        afterburner: 2 * 8300 kgf = 81 kN

                        Mig-35
                        RD-33MK
                        Link:
                        maximum: 2x5400 kgf = 53
                        afterburner: 2x9000 kgf = 88

                        Su-30SM, AL-41F1 on Su-30SM2
                        TRDDF "AL-31F" (AL-31FP)
                        Link:
                        maximum: 2 * 7770 kgf = 76
                        afterburner: 2 * 12500 kgf = 122

                        SU35
                        "AL-41F1C"
                        thrust:
                        maximum: 2 * 8800 kgf = 86
                        afterburner: 2 * 14,500 kgf = 142

                        F16
                        Powerplant: 1 * Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-229 turbofan (Block 52)
                        Afterburning thrust: 1 * 84,0 kN
                        Afterburner thrust: 1 * 144,0 kN

                        Chengdu J-10
                        1* TRDDF “Saturn-Lyulka” AL-31FN (Woshan WS-10B “Taihang”)
                        Maximum thrust: 89,43 kN (7700 kgf)
                        Afterburner thrust: up to 135 kN

                        F35
                        Powerplant: 1 * Pratt & Whitney F135-PW-100
                        28,000 lbf (120 kN) thrust dry
                        43,000 lbf (190 kN) with afterburner
                      5. 0
                        10 January 2026 05: 15
                        1) Dimensions of the central additional fuel tank in the center of the Mig-29
                        Length 5 050 mm
                        Diameter - 560 mm
                        Volume 1.500 liters = 1,200 kg
                        That is 5050*560*560

                        2) The dimensions of Taurus are 5100 (length) * 1080 (width) * 805 (height)
                        That is, the Taurus simply won’t fit under the belly of the MIG, although it won’t fit in terms of weight either, since it’s 1,4 tons and not 1,2 tons like the tank...

                        3) The reduced Taurus weighs 907 kg - that is, it already fits under the belly in terms of weight.
                        The length is 4,5 meters, but the width seems to be the same. Apparently they simply shortened it—that was the easiest way to reduce weight, since you just need to make the pipe shorter.

                        4) Storm Shadow/Scalp is smaller - 1,3 tons - also unliftable.
                        The length is similar - 5100...apparently some kind of NATO standard.
                        The width is 630 - it also doesn’t fit and that’s also a plus!
                        5100 * 630 * 480

                        5) Pendo Jassm...here he is in question!
                        Weight - 1020kg
                        Size - 4270*550*450
                        It's the right weight, but the width is just too tight. But the main thing is, they don't offer it. And even if they did, it would be easier to just install the F16.

                        6) Our X69
                        Weight - 800 kg
                        Size - 4200*400*400
                        It's quite small...so it lacks range and power. But it obviously fits under the MiG's belly...but why bother, if the weight allows for two wing-mounted tanks? Because wing-mounted fuel tanks weigh 900 kg. The MiG-29K and MiG-35, on the other hand, have different wings and can carry four wing-mounted fuel tanks!
                        ...but the wings obviously need to be strengthened for the KAB1500, since the upgraded MiG-29K and MiG-35 carry two 920kg fuel tanks, or 1840kg! Not just one per wing, as the old MiG-29 had. Because the MiG-29K has different wings, and they're larger, too. We could, for example, redesign the mounting hardware or use two KAB1500 mounting hardware, and then the MiG-35 would be able to carry advanced missiles and supply everyone with KABs right now.
                      6. 0
                        26 December 2025 04: 40
                        The aircraft had to be versatile—it had to be a one-half-seater, had to have an acceptable combat radius, and had to carry long-range air-to-ground and air-to-air missiles. The MiG-35 failed to address the MiG-29's main problems, and therefore never went into production.

                        The MiG-35 plays in the Rafale/Eurofighter class and is clearly inferior to them in terms of overall performance, winning only in agility, so to speak, but this is no longer a significant advantage.

                        The Rafale weighs 10 tons, and the MiG 11 tons, that is, under the engines and weight they are +/- the same, but the Rafale carries 2,5 tons more - 9,5 against 7 tons of the MiG-35, which is quite significant ... because the MiG's airframe is considered a sports one, considered for turns, and not for bombing.

                        It's clear that the MiG engine is no longer of interest to us because it's outdated and can only carry up to 11 tons in its dual-engine configuration. Of course, the Rafale has a similar engine, but the Rafale weighs 7,5 tons and carries two Shadow jets, while the MiG only carries 500 kg on its pylon...

                        The MiG airframe is purely a fighter for maneuvers; it lacks versatility, and the engine is no longer a top performer. Essentially, the engine has no development potential, and no one will invent a new one when the new Sukhoi engine is already proven, especially since one Sukhoi engine is as powerful as two MiG engines. Therefore, the MiG has no particular value for us, and we can outsource its assembly to Korea.

                        On the other hand, if you were to replace the MiG airframe with a classic European one—the Rafale, Eurofighter, Gripen, Mirage—they'd all have an airframe similar to the MiG21. It's like a flying triangle. Of course, I don't think the Koreans are capable of developing a new airframe and essentially turning a Rafale into a MiG-powered fighter... that would have been ideal for them. Upgrading the pylons to accommodate the KAB1500 would have been fine... but then, as always, the question arises: won't its sport glider flip over when a 1,5-ton weight is dropped from the wing? Is the glider stable? And so on. And apparently the answer lies in the fact that the MiG35 is already the limit of modernization, and beyond that, only a new model... and that would require a whole new set of funds and resources, which were decided to be spent on the 0,5 Sukhoi. Just like the Chinese did, and they basically succeeded.
  21. DO
    -3
    23 December 2025 13: 34
    there is a Su-75Gossip, predict, analyze as much as you like, but no. That same MiG-35 is haunting the other side.

    It is not. There is a MiG-35, which flew back in January 2007, and six aircraft of the lead series have been flying since October 2016, have already managed to participate in the air defense, and according to some reports, are now strengthening Moscow's air defense.
    There's absolutely no information about the flying Su-75 in the media; so far, the public has only seen a mockup at exhibitions. That is, according to publicly available information, The Su-75 doesn't exist yet..

    The author spent quite a bit of time explaining why the MiG-35 isn't for sale. The answer is obvious. The MiG-35 isn't yet in mass production. So how can you buy something that doesn't exist? Or
    If the Russians don't plan to use the MiG-35, why buy it?

    The main question is: does the Russian Armed Forces need the MiG-35, and if so, why? The answer is quite obvious: in light of the looming direct conflict between Russia and NATO countries, one can predict, as yet hypothetical, massive cruise missile attacks on Russian infrastructure. Consequently, the air defense of Russia's vast expanses requires strengthening, first and foremost, its air component. And the light MiG-35 fighter, in sufficient numbers, is perfectly adequate as a rear-based cruise missile interceptor. The heavy Su-35 is excessive and expensive for this purpose.
    1. +8
      23 December 2025 14: 47
      Quote: DO
      The light MiG-35 fighter, in sufficient numbers, is perfectly adequate as a rear-based cruise missile interceptor. The heavy Su-35 is excessive and expensive for this purpose.


      I am so surprised by people who write in templates...
      it turns out they have MiG-35 light fighter.

      purely for the academy.
      Maximum takeoff weight of the fighter:
      F-16C Block 25: ~17,000 kg
      JAS 39C/D: ~14,000 kg. / JAS 39E/F: 16,500 kg.


      F/A-18C - 25400 kg
      F-15C - 30844 kg.
      MiG-35 - 29700 kg
      Su-30SM / Su-30MKI / Su-35S - 34500 kg.
      1. DO
        -5
        23 December 2025 16: 27
        SovAr238A, What do American fighters have to do with this? Neither the F-16 nor the F-18 are produced in Russia for the Russian Armed Forces, nor are they in service.
        The Russian rear-based cruise missile interceptor fighter (which must be supersonic) currently has two alternatives: the Su-35 and the MiG-35:
        Su-35
        Length: 21,9 m
        Wingspan: 14,75 m
        Height: 5,9 m
        Wing area: 62,04 m²
        Weight:
        empty: 19 kg[000]
        normal takeoff weight (2 × R77 + 2 × R-73E): 25 300 kg
        maximum take-off weight: 34 500 kg

        MiG-35
        Length - 17,3 m
        Height - 4,73 m
        Wingspan - 11,99 m
        Wing area - 42 m²
        Normal launch weight is 17,500 kg, empty weight is 11,000 kg
        Maximum takeoff weight: 23,500 kg

        Comparing the performance characteristics of the Su-35 and MiG-35, the Su-35 can be called heavy, while the MiG-35, which is almost 2 times lighter than the Su-35 when empty, can be called light.
    2. P
      +5
      23 December 2025 18: 44
      It's not light, it's not cheap, and it's not combat-ready.
      1. DO
        0
        23 December 2025 18: 51
        Pandemic, what "lighter, cheaper, and more combat-ready" fighter-interceptor can you suggest to strengthen the air defense of Russia's vast rear areas against cruise missiles, with the possibility of serial production as early as 2026?
        1. P
          +3
          23 December 2025 18: 54
          1. The MiG is not in serial production. 2. Currently, the alternatives are: solve the problems with the Su-30/35, or improve the 75, or design a new aircraft. The MiG-29/35 is worse than any of the alternatives.
          1. DO
            0
            23 December 2025 19: 29
            Due to the pandemic, there's currently no public information about the Su-75 having flown. The developer promised the Su-75 would fly next year and begin flight testing. However, when will the first batch of Su-75s be manufactured and tested? Based on experience, it's likely not for at least several years.
            The MiG-35 project, a major modernization of the MiG-29M2, began in 2007, and it wasn't until 10 years later, in 2017, that the aircraft was officially unveiled. Therefore, in the current situation, let's forget about "designing a new aircraft"—a spoon is dear to the heart.
            The lead series of MiG-35 has been flying for many years and even underwent a baptism of fire in the Air Defense Forces; the MiG-35 is in service with the Russian army.
            While judging by the speed of political and military escalation, a massive NATO missile strike on Russia could occur as early as 2026.
            Yes, if the MiG-35 doesn't enter serial production in time for a hypothetical conflict with NATO, there will be no other options for reinforcing rear air defense other than the Su-35/30. However, it's quite clear that the Su-35, and especially the two-seat Su-30, are excessive compared to the MiG-35 for the role of rear-aircraft cruise missile interceptor – both in terms of performance characteristics, production cost, and the fact that the Su-35 is not designed for unpaved runways, while the MiG-35 is.
            1. P
              +1
              23 December 2025 19: 33
              Building up a fleet of surplus aircraft suitable for a major conflict would be faster, cheaper, and more logical than focusing on a vehicle that isn't particularly cheap to purchase or maintain, but is incredibly expensive to bring into production. Either a Sukhoi or a new single-engine aircraft with a large production run, and nothing else. Two engines on a light aircraft are destined for the morgue, no matter what.
              1. DO
                -1
                23 December 2025 19: 45
                Pandemic, if a large series of MiG-35s is organized (for a fighter, this means several hundred units starting from 300), the costs of its serial production, compared to the same series of heavy Sukhois, will pay off.

                Quote: Pandemic
                Two engines in a light car - to the morgue in any case

                When the Su-75 enters serial production in a few years, then, yes, it will be advisable to discontinue MiG-35 production, since one powerful engine is cheaper than two weaker ones. But we still have to survive until then. And to survive, we need a mass-produced rear-wing interceptor cruise missile.
                Don't say gop until you jump.
  22. +3
    23 December 2025 15: 19
    Well, the MiG-35 now has an onboard oxygen-producing unit.

    Such "pearls" immediately reveal the author's skill level. Airborne oxygen-producing units (BKDU) appeared in the 1930s. The BKDU-130 was installed on aircraft beginning with the MiG-29KUB.
  23. AVP
    -1
    23 December 2025 15: 20
    It's simple: the very concept of a light fighter is untenable—it's not needed where heavy fighters exist. That's why the MiG-29/35, Rafale, F-16, and others are slowly but surely being consigned to the dustbin of history. Such aircraft are only needed by those who want to save money and who don't need to fly beyond short-range missions, because the country ends immediately beyond that.
    And by the way, this MIG-35 is not that light.
    1. P
      +2
      23 December 2025 18: 49
      Of course it's needed. Normally, a sane country with AWACS would have light fighters that would create a numerical advantage and launch missiles from long distances without turning on their radar. The J10 convincingly outperformed its opponents this year.
      1. AVP
        0
        25 December 2025 14: 26
        Why do they need a numerical advantage if, as you see it, it's a long-range battle? A platform that carries more missiles is needed, and a heavy fighter can inherently carry more weapons, and it has more hardpoints.
        1. P
          0
          25 December 2025 14: 31
          Because a single salvo allows you to escape the kill zone with return fire, and repeat launches don't fit into the pattern. A numerical advantage provides a statistically more interesting probability of defeat, and in a real combat model, two missiles simultaneously flying at an aircraft are MUCH more dangerous than one, and then another. A heavy fighter, if all resources are spent on it, simply means you have half as many aircraft in terms of engines.
      2. 0
        27 December 2025 00: 45
        The problem is that the MiG-35 can't carry heavy missiles. Its maximum load is 500 kg.
  24. +3
    23 December 2025 15: 42
    What kind of tongue-tied nonsense is this?
  25. P
    +1
    23 December 2025 18: 35
    Two engines for a light aircraft? To the morgue. A light aircraft is designed to have a numerical advantage at a specific location with given resources. Two engines double the maintenance time for the aircraft's primary system, which means more technicians, lower combat readiness, and greater logistical resources. To the morgue.
    1. osp
      +2
      23 December 2025 19: 49
      The Council of Ministers issued such an order for a twin-engine aircraft.
      And they also crammed in the electronic equipment from the heavy Su-27 - this was the task to unify the PNK and BRLS to a significant extent in terms of units.
      The result was an expensive, overweight aircraft whose career in the Russian Air Force was short-lived.
      There was no longer any concept for using such a machine—they were being written off en masse back in the 90s and 00s, due to corrosion, for example.
      And again, the command did not know how to use it - the flight range did not allow for long-term escort of strategic and frontline bombers.
      The targeting system was useless for strikes on ground targets.

      And yes, the MiG-29 was supposed to replace the single-engine Su-17, MiG-27, MiG-23.
      He didn't replace them at all - he wasn't released in anywhere near that quantity.
    2. +1
      24 December 2025 01: 56
      The MiG-35 is not a light aircraft, it is a Euro-class aircraft, but Euro-class aircraft are more versatile, which is what determined their fate.
      Upgrading the MiG-35 airframe to accommodate greater loads and versatility is apparently impossible.
      It's easier to do as the Chinese did – build a new single-engine aircraft with a 0,5 Su-30 engine. And sell it en masse to those for whom the Su-1 is surplus.
  26. vBR
    0
    23 December 2025 21: 37
    It's an excellent aircraft, the best Soviet fighter. They did what the technical requirements were. Okay, the requirements change a bit, but everyone modernizes their aircraft, and the MiG supposedly has irreparable flaws. That's complete nonsense. Especially in light of the upcoming wars, given the production ceilings in the KPA and Irkutsk. 400 more wouldn't hurt.
  27. -1
    23 December 2025 21: 41
    There needs to be competition. The MiG-31—how old is it, 50? And it has enormous potential. Incidentally, the design of the integrated twin-engine configuration came from the MiG, then the Sukhoi followed suit. And what about concentrating resources? Maybe we should get the golden toilets involved? Responsibility for boasting without a straight face? How long has Sukhoi been tormenting the Superjet? If only there were competition! And now they're pulling out the Ilyushin and the MS...
  28. 0
    24 December 2025 00: 16
    The MiG is a semi-sport glider—that's not really needed right now. These days, combat takes place at long ranges, and aircraft are used as weapons carriers.
    The obvious disadvantages of the MiG are its lack of versatility, small combat radius, and inability to carry heavy weapons like the Taurus (maximum FAB 500), as well as insufficient engine life.
    The MiG could be exported to countries that don't need a large aircraft, but the airframe is apparently at the limit of its modifications and the price is already at the level of the Su-30.
  29. 0
    24 December 2025 01: 15
    Quote: malyvalv
    The creators of the MiG-21 read this comment with undisguised surprise.

    Are they reading from "the other world"?
    1. osp
      0
      24 December 2025 01: 43
      Well, actually, until the mid-2000s, Sokol was engaged in the modernization of Indian MiG-21-93 with the installation of the Kopye radar and modern electronics, as well as modern weapons.
      Surely those who took part in this are still alive.
      1. AVP
        0
        25 December 2025 14: 23
        so you can reach the Yak-1.
  30. 0
    25 December 2025 11: 03
    The new MiG-35s, which don't exist yet. There are plenty of competitors on the market, with developed infrastructure and weapons, and already equipped with active electronically scanned arrays.
    These include new and used F16, Grippen, Mirage 2000, Rafale, EF2000.
    At the same time, the MiG-35 is not the most advanced aircraft in terms of turbojet engines and avionics.
    We need to cut down the Su-75 and make it mass produced.
  31. -1
    25 December 2025 18: 17
    In a future military conflict, drones and aircraft will fly not in tens or hundreds, but in thousands. Therefore, something lightweight is needed to cover the skies. Why not MiGs? It's not for nothing that NATO calls them "falcrums"—strongholds. Using them as air defense for a strategic area is cheaper than deploying Su-27s for each drone.
  32. 0
    27 December 2025 01: 09
    The MiG-35 wanted to play in the Rafale/Eurofighter class, but it lost out to them in terms of versatility.
    The capacity of the tanks has been increased, but the range is still not enough.

    Tank capacity:
    Su 30 - 9640 kg
    Su 27 - 9400 kg
    Mig 29 - 3400 kg
    MIG 29K - Fuel weight (at kerosene density of 0,8 kg/l): internal: 4750 kg
    Mig 35 - 4800 kg

    F15 - 5952 kg
    F18 - 6800
    Gripen - 3300
    Rafal - 4700
    Eurofighter - 5000

    F16 - 3300
    f16 Jewish - 4600
    Fuel mass in internal tanks: kg 3228
    Fuel tank capacity: l 3986
    External fuel tanks: 1x1136 l or 2x1402 l or 1130 kg
    Conformal tanks: 1703 l or 1370 kg

    Apparently, the Jews have increased the fuel tanks, but they still don't have enough, so they fly with outboards. The question is, then, why do they even need a light aircraft weighing 11 tons?

    A two-seat attack bomber should have large fuel tanks, but the MiG's two-seat version has a smaller fuel tank—another disadvantage. A small fuel tank is also a disadvantage during patrol missions, which is especially noticeable in naval aviation, and the MiG was specifically designed for carrier-based versions.
    During the recent bombing of Iran, the Jews had to refuel mid-air and enlist the help of the Americans. I think this is also why we aren't using the MiG-29 in the war in Ukraine.

    Aircraft are currently used to launch long-range missiles, like the Taurus, for example, but the MiG-35 has a pylon weight limit of 500 kg, which puts an end to missiles like the X69 and the newer, heavier 1,3-1,5 ton Taurus/Storm Shadow variants. And even long-range air-to-air missiles like the R37! This is absolutely unacceptable! It's a death sentence for the platform's development.

    A short combat radius, limited armament, lack of versatility in ground operations, and a high price (at the level of the Sukhoi) - all of this put an end to the MiG-35, and there's no need to talk about how bad people don't buy hundreds of MiGs.
  33. 0
    29 December 2025 18: 02
    The performance is, to put it mildly, unimpressive! It's significantly less maneuverable than the MiG-29, but hasn't gained much in versatility. It still can't carry heavy missiles and bombs like the KAB 1500, but it has lost maneuverability, speed, and altitude.

    Maximum external load, kg - 6,500
    Number of suspension points - 9
    Mass of internal fuel, kg - 4,600
    Normal takeoff weight is 19,200 kg (MiG-35D - 19,000 kg).
    Maximum takeoff speed: 24,500 (both types).
    Maximum speed at altitude - 2100 km / h, on the ground - 1400 km / h.
    Rate of climb at ground level, m/s. 240 (!!!!!!!)
    Practical ceiling - 16 000 m.
    The range of the MiG-35 with air-to-air missiles and three outboard
    fuel tanks (PTB) - 1000-1400 km (depending on the composition of the weapons and
    flight altitude), with strike weapons and three PTBs - 800-1100 km.
  34. -1
    31 December 2025 00: 02
    Skomorokhov,

    The MiG-29 was originally created by mistake. The MiG-35, even more so.
    The MiG-29 is okay; even though it had two engines, it was relatively light. Not light, but average.

    If we take the MiG-35 and the Su-35, why does the Russian Air Force need two twin-engine aircraft with approximately the same price and operating costs?

    The country needs a small, mass-produced, single-engine fighter. A little larger than the Gripen, but definitely with a large radar.
  35. 0
    13 January 2026 15: 31
    The MiG-35 has only one serious problem: Pogosyan's lobby. Had the issue been framed correctly, it could have been improved. In the fourth year of the Air Defense Program, it's already clear that one of the reasons for its protracted development is the catastrophically low number of Aerospace Forces fighters. The exorbitant cost of the aircraft is precisely what leads to its low numbers. If the MiG-35's flight hour cost is half that, then they should be produced. It's time to look to the JF-17 as a model for mass production. The Aerospace Forces' primary function is to use bombs with the UMPK system; for that, there's no need for super-expensive equipment.
  36. 0
    2 February 2026 05: 25
    What "last page" is there if there never was a first? There was the "middling" MiG-29 in the late 70s. It was a decent aircraft 50 years ago. But far from outstanding. And it was significantly inferior in many respects to its contemporary, the F16.
    Today, no one needs him. Especially since Pogosyan strangled the MiG design bureau in the 90s and 00s, and the last of its brains went to the Sukhoi.
  37. 0
    5 February 2026 13: 37
    I like the MiG, and it’s more maneuverable in close combat than the Sukhoi. A pilot who flew both types (29 and 27) told me about it.