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I came back from work, turned on the TV for the background, periodically “shoot” with the remote control and so do it, - I hit the “Comedy woman” - cooking that I always kept for a cheap hack that is not worthy of the very fact of existence. I sit, eat, look half-eyed ... And ...! Above all, I pleased at the time when these narcissists, who had lost the concept of morality, were playing around with their regular, obscene and vulgar scene, where one of them portrayed either a psychic, or a soothsayer. And all would be nothing - well, you explain to satisfy your own ugly self-conceit, find understanding with the same tact and conscience-free as you yourself are, and - figs with you ... But, after the words in this skit - “What is it some kind of chill terrible breath ...? No ghost of General Karbyshev with the winter blizzard ... "I was numb for a second and could only say to my wife -" But this is already an unforgivable disgusting! "




This bohemian trash, which has lost its boundaries, tact and conscience, the name of the person who gave his life and accepted a martyr's death so that all subsequent generations of Soviet people live, mentioned in such a mocking, juggling sense and only for the sole purpose - to laugh from souls! There is not a hint about any feeling of compassion, nor about any attempts to realize the sufferings and torments that this man accepted.

In the conclusion of this whole farce, their fussy bald clown exclaimed: “You were at the Comedy Vumen - a place where it is pleasant to be, but it is not a shame to remember!”. So nothing before this bald one, with vulgar lustful eyes, didn’t come to it ... So, with his creative thinking, he didn’t understand what they were doing - SHAME!

After that, my wife and I started a conversation on the topic that there are things, names, moral standards and examples that are strictly forbidden to touch with dirty paws. This is especially true of the names of those who gave their lives in the name of fulfilling their moral, civic and military duty, in the name of a better life of subsequent generations, in the name of us living with dignity, caring for our children, elderly parents, with the participation of in the eyes and empathetic to someone else's trouble.

Everything that happened shook the soul and prompted to speak in the "VO".

And here - I open the "Military Review" and in the thread that opinions have appeared about the expediency of holding the Victory Day Parade, I see "revelations" of the same as these girls from the box and devoid of conscience, a creative person like this Dima from Comedy Wumen "- Vasily 71! And after all, mind you, such opinions have appeared right now, when both the country's leadership and all normal and not indifferent people are in search of those historical milestones that could serve as moral beacons for the country's younger generation. That is, there are ongoing attempts to knock the moral support from under our feet and deprive us of sovereign pride, leveling the glorious achievements and victories of our people and country!

And how nice it was to see, in response to the bleating of this forum-inspired creative, the outrage and monolithic condemnation of his pathetic comments and his “reasoned” dodges! To the credit of the members of the forum - no one allowed himself obscene attacks in the direction of this user, but "unleash" him - notably! And what beautiful words sounded on the site ...!

Gari
Quote: domokl
This is our Victory, this is my Victory, this is the Victory of my children and all those who left their loved ones on the fields of war ...

Dear, I, too, is not Russian, but not as infuriated as yours, this scum has no nationality, subhuman

My two grandfathers Armenians from Georgia, fought, one returned in fragments from Stalingrad, the other came as Berlin’s marines

It was the Victory of our Grandfathers, our Fathers, now Our Victory will be the Victory of our children!

Because I am the Great Victory!


And what kind of example of incredible generosity did Nina (Tverichanka) tell us

I will add my story about Russians and enemies.

My uncle went missing in September 41-th near Kiev. He was just 22 of the year. Grandma hoped all his life that he was alive. If not a funeral, then maybe he was wounded, he lost his memory, and so on. That is, I believed that my son survived and lives somewhere ... And in 42, they were under occupation. The combat units of the Germans were gone, and in the village they had some kind of quartermaster unit. Winter was frosty. So the women gave warm clothes to the German soldiers, because they did not have a winter uniform. And when I asked my grandmother: "How is that? They are fascists, enemies!" The grandmother answered: "Well, do they have no mother? She thinks you don’t feel sorry for your son? Or maybe someone will give or cover up my Fedya!" It was not very clear to me then. And now, I think, this is what kind of soul our grandmothers were, if even in such circumstances they were able to separate evil and good, hatred and compassion. Here they are Russian women !!! And they can break into shreds and immediately regret !!!


I am extremely pleased to be in the community of you all, dear colleagues and I (without pathos) - I am proud that such thoughts and words sound here!

And I would like to say a few words to the address of the above-mentioned user Vasya 71, which is justly correct. If you don’t know something from the history of the country in which you live, or you don’t understand something, if you are completely deprived of pride in your country, then don’t try to dirty yourself with tar, in which you’ve gotten yourself, others. Read more books on the history of Russia, maybe you will understand something about moral values ​​and expediency. But it seems that all this is not yours. Yours are stories about the decisive role of states in the Great Patriotic War and about Land Lease as the "decisive and crucial factor in the war."

And the pride for the Victory of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War - for OUR VICTORY - is not yours. And if not yours, then - do not touch!
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  1. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 4 May 2013 06: 21 New
    70
    There is such a word, at one time obscured by all sorts of liberals and crap - censorship is called. Let there be less creativity, but there will be no vulgarity or nausea either
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 4 May 2013 06: 37 New
      26
      In my understanding, there is censorship, this is when there is no swearing and frank scenes of violence, but when everyone is clapping and the authorities are licking their ass. Sometimes this is collectively called censorship, but in that case I definitely won’t turn on the TV.
      1. FC SKIF
        FC SKIF 4 May 2013 06: 58 New
        21
        More important is who the censor is. And then take such a bald censor - so in the program the time to swear will begin without fail
        1. Alexander Petrovich
          Alexander Petrovich 4 May 2013 07: 57 New
          29
          Find out the name of the creator who invented this number. The enemy must be known in person. But Medvedev for such a joke - shame and shame. Although she will be worried about it.
          1. ughhh
            ughhh 4 May 2013 14: 03 New
            12
            Fu, people, how do you look at this bastard? Distorts already. And finally, throw out the TV your unfortunate, suffered, I guess.
            1. Alexander Petrovich
              Alexander Petrovich 4 May 2013 14: 30 New
              +6
              Yes, no one is watching. On the Internet, I wondered whose joke it was. YES and who has not seen (even briefly) this program before.
              1. Tverichanka
                Tverichanka 4 May 2013 20: 02 New
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                I didn’t see it. And not only this program, but many others. For example, the notorious House-2. And 99% of films I don’t watch ... Agree, you don’t have to touch your poop with your hands to make sure that you don’t need to do this. In general, television began to occupy a disproportionately large place in people's lives. And to the detriment of reading. And then we start to complain that the children don’t know something. And they, too, looking at adults, stare at the screen. It's easier. You don’t have to think. Yes and books have a lot of bukoff.
                1. Alexander Petrovich
                  Alexander Petrovich 5 May 2013 14: 24 New
                  +5
                  I would say that children now do more harm than a computer than a TV. And everyone has a TV at home, and switching channels in captivity stumbles upon “poop,” as you put it.
            2. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 4 May 2013 15: 44 New
              15
              Quote: ughhh
              And finally, throw out your unfortunate TV, I have suffered, I guess.

              Lord comrades!
              You don’t have to be like an ostrich even in the informational “sand” - by the way, “feed” sticks out from the outside, and sneaking up on “liberals” you will smell too “late” too laughing
              Watch, listen, read, keep abreast of current events. And to draw certain conclusions from what he saw, heard and read - or a head only for a hat and a "shout"?
              hi
              1. ughhh
                ughhh 4 May 2013 16: 30 New
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                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Watch, listen, read, keep abreast of current events.

                If I need news, I surf the Internet for my favorite news sites.
                If you need a background for some activity, I turn on my favorite music (from the Internet, yeah).
                Any movies without ads? Even downloading is no longer necessary; read about torrent stream (I use TS player myself).
                Any cable, satellite channels? It has long been broadcast over the Internet, you don’t even have to pay.
                Even these vile laughable programs, absolutely any series can be instantly found and watched. Without advertising, I note.

                There is too much information, and there is too little time to see, read. To haul everything that is served in our time - fire. Only happy people who really have nothing to do can afford this. It’s better to read Pushkin’s poems, they are delicious.
              2. esaul
                4 May 2013 22: 09 New
                +2
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Watch, listen, read, keep abreast of current events. And to draw certain conclusions from what he saw, heard and read - or a head only for a hat and a "shout"?

                Welcome hi I would very much like to listen to these words, otherwise we can come to a demonstration on TV "Swan Lake" and ... That's it!
                I want to immediately preface the exclamations on the topic in the spirit that ballet is our pride. Pride ... and - well-deserved ... But, try, after all the variety of TV food, to sit on a "dry" ration. I assure you - you will be satisfied for a very short time.
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 4 May 2013 22: 13 New
                  +4
                  Quote: esaul
                  I assure you - you will be satisfied for a very short time.

                  hi
            3. carver
              carver 4 May 2013 18: 49 New
              +3
              How to throw it away? And hockey, football, volleyball ... yes biathlon in the end)))
              1. ughhh
                ughhh 5 May 2013 10: 15 New
                0
                on the Internet you can find either a live broadcast of the event itself, or an online broadcast of a tv channel
                1. carver
                  carver 7 May 2013 09: 33 New
                  0
                  Well, on the Internet you can find a lot of things ... and how the Internet as a whole differs from a zombie creator))) I’m the same ... how to bask only in profile, and after a while it will be generally one.
            4. Sandov
              Sandov 5 May 2013 16: 47 New
              +2
              I only learned here about this meanness to the memory of our heroes. This is from the same story; we did not send you to Afghanistan. Pigs must be punished unambiguously.
            5. Containers
              Containers 6 May 2013 01: 45 New
              0
              Why throw out the TV? I’m watching sports channels. Kitchen TV - it didn’t practically switch at all (well, until all sorts of quizzes appeared there). Well, I’m also watching all kinds of films on it bully
              You just need to understand what you can watch and what is not worth it.
          2. bezumnyiPIT
            bezumnyiPIT 7 May 2013 14: 57 New
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            Quote: Alexander Petrovich
            Although she will be worried about it.

            Like regular viewers of this booth
        2. zvereok
          zvereok 4 May 2013 08: 00 New
          +8
          It’s also true, but Mikhalkov in the role of censor is not at all better, and perhaps even worse than Khrustalev will be.
          1. Tartary
            Tartary 4 May 2013 08: 24 New
            -3
            Quote: zvereok
            It’s also true, but Mikhalkov in the role of censor is not at all better, and perhaps even worse than Khrustalev will be.

            And then Mikhalkov? Where above it was discussed? Or so - butting, so that they know they say how much I hate him ??????
            You do not like his directorial creations, well, okay ...
            Many people do not like much what Oscars, Nicky, etc. give.
            But there are those who perceive something that others do not like for various reasons, quite differently ... Why talk about it anyway?
            It already sounds like cheap trolling to popular names.
            Moreover, put in a row Mikhalkov with a specific civic position and gender homosexual clown - Khrustalev ... This apparently is already blown away, so it loses its scent, ceases to "dive into the snout", i.e. about whom it’s better not to joke about ...
            By the way, I like Comedy more than Petrosyan’s gang ...

            Moreover, let’s not forget that Mikhalkov takes his post for a reason and it’s not you and us who have invited you to choose him there ... But he still represents the face of the Russian cinema community.
            Do not you think that expressing your subjective opinion in this way, you spit in the face and those filmmakers who chose their counselor, without asking you thought that he was worthy to be the Chairman?

            Question: - Why, contrary to your opinion, did they think so?

            In my youth there was a simple question for the person "Oh": - if you say that everything around is completely pi ... ses, then who are you then?

            I’ll make a reservation right away that I don’t want to personally blame you for anything and engage in a skirmish, I’m just fed up with this NTV promotion racket about Mikhalkov, Gundyaev, Putin, etc. - who at least does something positive and in its rightful place.
            It is worth believing that nevertheless some state are behind them. organizations that are not at all indifferent to the people of Russia.

            Sorry if it turned out abruptly ...
            Good luck, colleague.
            1. zvereok
              zvereok 4 May 2013 09: 45 New
              +7
              Under Mikhalkov, our culture degraded to Khrustalev, and Mr. Mikhalkov will leave his post only with his feet forward.

              Khrustalev and the show with him rests on popularity.

              Mikhalkov, on the other hand, is based on old ties and the fact that he is in power. I like old Mikhalkov films, but I don’t like the last ones.

              I understand that the last Oscar Mikhalkov received for Burnt by the Sun?

              By the way, are you sure that Mikhalkov isn’t? I’m not sure, therefore, I’m not arguing.

              By the way, what's wrong with being a clown? And make people laugh?

              Laughter is a positive emotion that prolongs life!
              1. Tartary
                Tartary 4 May 2013 11: 05 New
                +3
                Quote: zvereok
                Under Mikhalkov, our culture degraded to Khrustalev, and Mr. Mikhalkov will leave his post only with his feet forward.


                Yes, at least get caught ...
                What is Mikhalkov's fault in this? Maybe in the fact that to whom it was necessary to offer his sperm, for the birth of a division of small Mikhalkov ...
                So you can say that it was specifically with you / me that your enterprise or trust in which you / I worked silently as a mouse at the time of perestroika collapsed ... But there would have been another instead of you / me, so look Lenin 2.0 or Stalin 2.0 would have been ...
                Accusing Mikhalkov of being a mouse is stupid, to the point of dumbness ...
                Quote: zvereok
                By the way, are you sure that Mikhalkov isn’t? I’m not sure, therefore, I’m not arguing.

                And let him sit in a basin with water ... Any doubters let him blow into the “pipe” ... If the bubbles go into the basin - well, then, then it’s really yours ...
                Quote: zvereok
                By the way, what's wrong with being a clown? And make people laugh?

                What is wrong with me being a clown ?! Yes, you don’t take much on yourself, my friend? !!!!
                For me it’s not bad at all, if not only it seemed to me that you are a clown!
                Quote: zvereok
                Laughter is a positive emotion that prolongs life!

                Laughing for no reason is a sign of fooling around! - so my grandmother said ...
                And personally, I think that a fool to live for a long time is harmful to others ...

                P.S. There, right immediately below the page to whom it is inaudible and about tolerance - very clearly ...
                P.P.S. Censorship is not a Russian word at all, therefore it is quoted by the elite, whose people almost also call it conscience, which in turn is based on shame.
                1. zvereok
                  zvereok 4 May 2013 11: 24 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Tartary
                  What is wrong with me being a clown ?! Yes, you don’t take much on yourself, my friend? !!!!


                  Why did you try on my statement on yourself? I'll try to formulate it differently - What is bad in the profession of a clown or a comedian?

                  Yuri Vladimirovich Nikulin is a clown, and did an excellent job as the administrator of the Circus on Tsvetnoy. He gave interesting presentations and did not engage in donation at all.

                  But Nikita Sergeevich, could not. And he doesn’t want to leave.

                  I apologize if I offended you, Or Mr. Mikhalkova, but of course I do not intend to change my opinion yet.

                  Today by the way I saw in YouTube an advertising trailer for the film "Stalingrad". Glad to make a good movie. And I have long been waiting for a new "It's hard to be a god."

                  We'll see?
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCQvkQT0ves
                  1. Tartary
                    Tartary 4 May 2013 13: 32 New
                    -5
                    Quote: zvereok
                    Why did you try on my statement on yourself? I'll try to formulate it differently - What is bad in the profession of a clown or a comedian?

                    What is a comedian?
                    A. Raikin was a brilliant conversational genre artist. Is it a comedian?
                    Khazanov was also not a miss, but a faint likeness of the right ...
                    Oleg Popov Ball is a recognized circus clown. There were followers no worse ...
                    Comedy Club is much more interesting than the late Petrosyan, but the young Petrosyan was a little weaker than Raikin - competition, however ...
                    Today the best in the genre of humor is V. Dobronravov. IMHO
                    Bottom line: - a clown to a clown, and a comedian to a comedian - discord, if there is little tension ...
                    Quote: zvereok
                    Yuri Vladimirovich Nikulin is a clown, and did an excellent job as the administrator of the Circus on Tsvetnoy. He gave interesting presentations and did not engage in donation at all.

                    Yuri Nikulin was one of the few artists who really fought in the Second World War ... What can I talk about? Why such a good example?

                    Quote: zvereok
                    But Nikita Sergeevich, could not. And he doesn’t want to leave.


                    Could not what? And where, and why go? Who wants it or asks? I AM? You? Who! Maybe people?
                    Nooooo! The people do not ask for this and do not want to - that’s for sure ... \\\\ Masons (I understand who I mean and not necessarily Jews) who put sticks into the wheels of everything that is not in theirs in Russia? This is most likely ...
                    Quote: zvereok
                    I apologize if I offended you, Or Mr. Mikhalkova, but of course I do not intend to change my opinion yet.

                    What matters? No ceremonies, but no need to change anything - it will come.

                    The main thing is that Mikhalkov is a specific Russophile, this is our Russian and Russian-imperial person to the marrow of our bones, who will not betray and 30 silver coins will not pull on the sly.
                    Therefore, his work - by itself, and this is the work of the artist, if not you say ...
                    But his civic position is a separate, albeit indivisible theme with his work ... Paradox? Not. Simply, if it weren’t about Russia, then everything would be simple - talent / peasantry / success, and then quiet old age and poh. what is there in the world and country ...
                    Today is the youngest daughter's birthday - 10 years old, therefore, honestly, not to the depth of my thoughts now on this topic ... I hope it is clear why? drinks Plus I write, almost "on my knee" ... request
                    Good luck.
                    1. sergo0000
                      sergo0000 4 May 2013 21: 06 New
                      12
                      Tartary
                      I apologize for invading the dialogue. Yesterday I watched (For the first time) “Burnt by the Sun-2” on purpose. And I was once again convinced that the reviews for the films that were released were mostly fair and correct on the forum users. I don’t think I took the time in vain, otherwise, like you, I was looking for an excuse for a stumbling artist. Now I know for sure that Mikhalkov died as a director for me after this creation. This is not an offense, but a betrayal of all veterans of our country. And it is a pity that you personally did not understand this. One person wrote a short but capacious review of this film.

                      ... Do not rank the great Mikhalkov. Uncle Styopa’s son only exhausts folk money for his expensive projects, they throw him a little rotten tomatoes, this city doesn’t pose as a great figure in cinema, but such masterpieces as “Blockade”, “Liberation”, “They Fought for the Motherland”, etc. He can’t afford it - and then we get so tired ...


                      And I completely agree with him!
                    2. esaul
                      4 May 2013 22: 14 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Tartary
                      Today is the youngest daughter's birthday - 10

                      Hi man hi and - congratulations love !
                      You say everything right. Very many continue to think either by a given pattern or by inertia. It's a pity... drinks
                      1. sergo0000
                        sergo0000 4 May 2013 22: 54 New
                        +2
                        Greetings Valery! An excellent article and a civic position of a person who is not indifferent to the abomination pouring every day from our screens !! Everything is written correctly. If there were more such indifferent citizens in Russia, you would look and the "glamorous" clowns would suck their tongues to the nth place and would not have even in my thoughts let go of my vulgar and dirty jokes towards our veterans! Keep it up, and with the holiday of Easter and the upcoming day of the Great Victory of the Russian people in WWII !!! hi drinks
                2. Tartary
                  Tartary 4 May 2013 11: 40 New
                  +4
                  It seems to me that when fasting here about justice and against the tolerant liberal elite, I am adequately obliged to understand what-is-what-and-hoo-hoo ...
                  The very Svanidze, with his statements, puts those who disagree with him under the concept of censorship - his censorship ... If he suddenly gets power, then believe me, he will do everything so as not to lose it ... EVERYTHING !!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
                  Gozman ... Need to be explained? I think that those who have seen at least one of his live shows understand me ...
                  Tomorrow give such a real power -! all! Everything will be in the empire, as in the Echo of Moscow ...
                  It’s just that the young reformers of the 90s miscalculated ... They hoped that the hawking people would continue to harass liberal values ​​- hell was there ... Miscalculated - the train started off before they had time to replenish the kettles with boiling water - now they are trying to catch up, but this is hardly .. .

                  I hate that the sober-minded sober-up Mikhalkov suddenly fell from the "light" hands of all NTV and others, on a par with all sorts of liberal and not only losers!
                  What does someone not like about him? His "failure" (subjective assessment by everyone) in the last (last) films? What is that?
                  In addition to him, they shot the fuck of shit and other fashionable ...
                  Why is it that someone's Turkish saber selectively cuts ?????
                  According to the old, experienced, with roots and concepts?
                  Or maybe someone just really doesn’t like his Russianness, his personal position and assessment of the situation in Russia?
                  One or two -> damn <! - / filter from the neighboring streets was picked up, and an adult, different from the masses, though not a genius, but clearly a charismatic person, a director and an actor, fell into a negative circle, to which, by will any obviously weaker one comes up and tries to spit or kick ...
                  Cum, guys, do garbage! Stop dancing to other people's music.

                  P.S. It is important for me that at least half of the minus, it became clear what I mean ...
                  1. zvereok
                    zvereok 4 May 2013 12: 00 New
                    +3
                    Firstly, I do not like the tax on information media that I pay when I buy a media, a USB flash drive, a player or a disk with information.

                    I do not like what this CPD tax distributes. 15% of this tax goes to the needs of the union itself and it is Mikhalkov who heads this Union.

                    Again, the RSP decides to whom to give the remaining interest, and it must be assumed that only in this organization there have never been kickbacks and corruption. Because RSP is the conscience of the nation.

                    The whole situation is very reminiscent of how some time ago Aeroflot, a privately owned company, received royalties for trans-Siberian flights.
                    1. Papakiko
                      Papakiko 4 May 2013 12: 55 New
                      0
                      Quote: zvereok
                      First of all, I don’t like the tax on information media that I pay when I buy a media, a USB flash drive, a player or a disk with information. I don’t like what this CPD tax distributes. 15% of this tax goes to the needs of the union itself and it is Mikhalkov who heads this union.

                      Native you are our "erring" person.
                      VAT from the Federal Tax Service Destroys the economy and causes quite tangible harm to us, you, all Russians. And the storage media you listed can easily not pay this “bribe”; you need to set up a full production cycle in Russia. And by the way, these very “dime kopeks” are partially making domestic films.
                      Quote: zvereok
                      Aeroflot, a privately owned company, received royalties for trans-Siberian flights.

                      Another pearl ..
                      You are for Lufthansa, British Sharveys, American airways and other Olways so worried as if you made all payments from your wallet. wink

                      ps / Relax in nature, prepare beds for berries, cook barbecue, and rejoice with loved ones for the SUN-AIR-SKY-HEAT.
                      1. zvereok
                        zvereok 4 May 2013 13: 31 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Papakiko
                        You are for Lufthansa, British Sharveys, American airways and other Olways so worried as if you made all payments from your wallet.


                        I worry that all payments went past the budget, that this action was revealed, with the filing of foreign bodies, and not our Accounts Chamber. And that even after the autopsy, no one was punished and the money did not return to the budget.

                        “And the media you have listed can easily not pay this“ bribe ”, you need to set up a full production cycle in Russia. And by the way, these same“ cheap copecks ”partially remove domestic cinema.”

                        They just took it, got into my pocket and handed over my money to Mikhalkov.
                      2. Papakiko
                        Papakiko 6 May 2013 10: 09 New
                        0
                        Quote: zvereok
                        They just took it, got into my pocket and handed over my money to Mikhalkov

                        In your (our) pockets, who just doesn’t "graze", and you are "offended" at Mikhalkov. Understand housing and utilities, fuel and energy complex, and only after that you think this "prank" and do forgive and forget.
              2. pavlo
                pavlo 4 May 2013 19: 40 New
                +1
                He told all about himself with his films about the war!
            2. ed65b
              ed65b 4 May 2013 15: 12 New
              +2
              Mikhalkov "chamber" directed his film about the jury 2 heads above the weary ones.
              1. Garrin
                Garrin 4 May 2013 21: 32 New
                0
                Quote: ed65b
                Mikhalkov "chamber" directed his film about the jury 2 heads above the weary ones.

                Great movie, there is no reason to argue.
            3. cherkas.oe
              cherkas.oe 4 May 2013 21: 23 New
              +2
              Quote: zvereok
              By the way, are you sure that Mikhalkov isn’t? I’m not sure, therefore, I’m not arguing.

              Listen to the "animal" that this topic excites you so much, not surprisingly, in the tone and degree of hatred towards Mikhalkov it is clear that you yourself are very close to the circles you have mentioned. Only after all, Mikhalkov does not manage television and is not yet the Minister of Culture, but when God grants, then all pedirasty and other husks like you will end.
        3. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 4 May 2013 14: 41 New
          +4
          While the media and TV are in the hands of our enemies of the railway Zionists, no one will censor vulgarity and anti-patriotism !!! It's time to ask with the guarantor !! To stake !!! HEY..censors from the FSB, bring to starshov that it’s time to bring the media and TV to feelings !!!! Not good! GA ..nom feed the people !!! Got fed !!!
      2. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 4 May 2013 10: 45 New
        +5
        Here the Emperor had censors ... Fedor Tyutchev, for example. "The mind cannot understand Russia ..."
        Any business can be screwed up. Or make it so that the flowers bloomed on the stone. Everything is in the hands of the doer.
    2. zart_arn
      zart_arn 4 May 2013 11: 24 New
      0
      Since we are talking about censorship, it’s worth discussing what and how this censorship should limit. There are norms of law and norms of morality. Everything is clear with the norms of the law - they are spelled out in the relevant documents, and censors in this direction are also determined by law.
      But with the norms of morality and morality, alas, not everything is so clear. For centuries, the ROC has been the bearer of these norms in Russia, all of its parishioners. Hierarchs and ministers violating the written (in Scripture) and unwritten norms of morality were absent. With the advent of the Bolshevik sect (alas, social movements fighting the religious movements are called sects), the existence of Orthodoxy and its moral standards was put on the brink of survival. No need to talk about the similarity of the moral ideals of the Communists and Christianity. The main and fatal difference is the attitude towards God. Whoever says anything, but if there is no room for God in the soul, then there is no Conscience. Conscience is a part of the creator in our souls, and if it is present, then no censorship is necessary. Where is the guarantee that, under the pretext of purification, at the helm of censorship, entities like those that have already been and will not arise. Censorship existed and still exists - everyone knows about it. Only here it filters in a peculiar way, pleasing the powers that be and the unclean.
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 4 May 2013 14: 54 New
        0
        1000000000 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++ !!!!!!
    3. starshina78
      starshina78 4 May 2013 18: 50 New
      11
      This program is broadcast on TNT channel, and the comedy club ball, a bunch of anti-Russian creators, rules there. The ball is ruled by Bulldogs, Martirosyans, Chestnuts, Snowballs and other types. And who is sitting in the hall and looking, laughing at the dirty, stupid and obscene jokes? The same creatives. Those who are prevented by Victory Day from traveling around Moscow, who are sick of everything Russian, they laugh at us, mock (a word from their vocabulary). The only thing we can do is forget about the button on the remote with the TNT channel. A kind of boycott of the channel, which allows you to joke on the heroes of the war. With their programs, they make young people as stupid and impudent as the characters in their releases. Something censorship skips on TV screens, or something.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 4 May 2013 19: 51 New
        +4
        Quote: starshina78
        what we can do is forget about the button on the remote with the TNT channel

        We can. But the main thing is to explain to the youth why they sent this channel to ignore, to explain what it makes of them, young, stupid ruminants who have forgotten about the honor and dignity of their ancestors. Alas! It is not only young ...
        In Murmansk, veterans on the eve of May 9 received letters from the memorial company.
        The daughter of a war veteran said that her mother became ill after such a letter. It contained a message that the company was burying veterans at the expense of the state. Figures were also written that explained how much money was allocated for the burial of each veteran.
        The director of the Murmansk branch of the military memorial company said that they did not want to upset the veterans, but tried to inform them.
        Source: TV 21
        http://polemika.com.ua/news-116810.html#title
        Is this not a mockery of the elderly on the eve of the holiday? !!!!
        1. zart_arn
          zart_arn 4 May 2013 22: 38 New
          +1
          Himself was shocked by this news. Although it is not good to wish, but still I wish this director to receive a similar “price list” in old age.
        2. stroporez
          stroporez 6 May 2013 15: 29 New
          0
          PPC ......... and no one will take this geek for piers ...........
      2. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 4 May 2013 20: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: starshina78
        . Something censorship skips on TV screens, or something.

        And yet, as you rightly noted, the button is in our hands. That means, whether or not including some muck, we make the choice ourselves. Here and let's make the right choice. Moreover, at the current level of communication, options the sea is poured. There are so many books on the Internet that life isn’t enough to re-read. In my opinion, the best way is to take your time and your mind.
    4. APASUS
      APASUS 4 May 2013 20: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: zvereok
      In my understanding, there is censorship, this is when there is no swearing and explicit scenes of violence,

      What is censorship?
      After all, this is the policy of broadcasting, this is what our children are learning from. Look at what has been going on the ZOMBIERS for the past 20 years. What a whole generation has grown up on.
      What can be surprised when a prirodok in uniform walks and shoots people in a store !!! When buses bombard from pneumatics, aircraft crews are blinded!
      This is the result ...........
  2. domokl
    domokl 4 May 2013 08: 24 New
    +7
    Quote: FC Skiff
    There is such a word, at one time obscured by all sorts of liberals and crap - censorship is called.
    Maxim, censorship, censorship, strife ... Everyone has the right to their opinion and if this opinion is alien to me, I argue, curse, if you like ...
    Valery in his article spoke about some pigs on our site. But they (the same Vasily) competently bent their line, without violating the rules of the site. My opinion is also not popular with everyone, but without violating the rules I am not judged fellow
  3. Rus2012
    Rus2012 4 May 2013 09: 21 New
    14
    Quote: FC Skiff
    There is such a word, at one time obscured by all sorts of liberals and crap - censorship is called.

    Dear colleague, yes, censorship exists in the same liberation, it is simply called in other words - "political correctness."
    From the wiki:
    Political correctness (also political correctness; from the English. Politically correct - “corresponding to the established rules”) - the practice of direct or indirect prohibition of the use of words and phrases ...

    And try to scold the Negro from them ... Or the country's policy regarding certain events - guantanomo is ensured. And these are just words ...

    And about General Karbyshev Dmitry Mikhailovich ...
    I bet that current school graduates do not know such a person ... But they know another general - Vlasov ...
    Everything is very simple, our homegrown "enlightened liberalists" expelled one general and included another in the school curriculum ...
    Until we clean the "Agie’s stables" from shit, it will be so ...
    Media censorship should be!
    And this function may well be performed by healthy social forces ...
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  5. radio operator
    radio operator 4 May 2013 10: 32 New
    12
    It is time to begin to pour sewage to where they can overthrow, and not stink in our souls.
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 6 May 2013 15: 35 New
      0
      from it is right !!!!!!!! the go-depository is at the top, from there and nada to begin sanitation ....
  6. Heccrbq
    Heccrbq 4 May 2013 10: 56 New
    +8
    What censorship, this canal, together with all the cheapness and stupidity that is going on on it, belongs to Gazprom (Gazprom is a national treasure fellow ), but Gazprom belongs to whom? But comments
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 4 May 2013 15: 08 New
      +2
      Gazprom is only on the TV screen, a national treasure! And so, the shares were initially divided between the "powers that be"! If the public heritage, hand out to the people piece by piece! They will sooner be chanted !!! Ghouls are, ghouls !!!! No conscience, no honor !!!
  7. dc120mm
    dc120mm 4 May 2013 11: 18 New
    +8
    Quote: FC Skiff
    censorship is called

    Censorship is indispensable, we are also shown all sorts of x - that.
  8. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 5 May 2013 05: 23 New
    +1
    it’s not so much censorship as the lack of ideology and upbringing of the younger generation, because all these miserable victims of perestroika are creative from the Blue Screens, these deprived people have nothing sacred, and we will reap the fruits of perestroika for a long time ...
  9. SSR
    SSR 5 May 2013 22: 09 New
    0
    Quote: FC Skiff
    Let there be less creativity, but there will be no vulgarity or nausea either

    and Galtsev? one chmafka’s tweaks, bunches, all jokes below the plinth, but how is “zavmat” heated, which is difficult to prove .. or how drawbar. how he turned and it turned out ...
    I told my own for a long time ... TNT, STS, etc. I’ll see .. I’ll chop off the whole movie ...
  • pinecone
    pinecone 4 May 2013 06: 24 New
    22
    Mention General Karbysheva next to all this bastard should not be.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 4 May 2013 06: 55 New
      +8
      It infuriates me more when Dmitry Medvedev shakes hands with Andrus Ansip.
      1. Renat
        Renat 4 May 2013 07: 50 New
        +7
        How not to reap that? These are ordinary players of one team.
      2. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus 4 May 2013 09: 58 New
        +9
        There is such a thing as a diplomatic protocol. Russia and Estonia are not at war. For this reason, the leaders of the countries have to smile sweetly at each other and shake hands, regardless of personal preferences and political preferences.
        1. zvereok
          zvereok 4 May 2013 10: 37 New
          0
          Finances attached after the "Cypriot tragedy."
      3. Hleb
        Hleb 4 May 2013 19: 08 New
        +4
        but as we bend them now in hockey. 6-0 we are leading. And it doesn’t matter Estonians / Latvians.
        they are some sweet, Romanians in one word
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 4 May 2013 08: 24 New
      23
      Quote: pinecone
      Mention General Karbysheva next to all this bastard should not be.

      I fully support! I also want to ask. Maybe you can write a letter of indignation at such blasphemy on behalf of the entire VO site? I am sure everyone will subscribe, and send this letter to all newspapers. (In court, probably not) Well, at least in the media! Regarding Urgant, who also “blurted out” how much noise there was. So it is necessary here, because it is precisely SECURITY! And make these coves publicly apologize.
      1. domokl
        domokl 4 May 2013 08: 52 New
        13
        Quote: Egoza
        Maybe you can write a letter of indignation at such sacrilege on behalf of the entire VO site? I’m sure everyone will subscribe, and send this letter to all newspapers
        The offer is sensible, I support!
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 4 May 2013 15: 18 New
          +2
          100% support !!
      2. luka095
        luka095 4 May 2013 14: 04 New
        +3
        Indeed, if this can be done, then it should be done.
      3. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 4 May 2013 15: 17 New
        0
        I wonder how the Duma will react to this passage in the "Comedy Wumen" !!!
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 4 May 2013 15: 19 New
          +2
          don’t hope. gave the link below. if such characters are sitting there, what to expect?
    3. domokl
      domokl 4 May 2013 08: 35 New
      +7
      Quote: pinecone
      Mention General Karbysheva next to all this bastard should not be.
      But what if, if I may say so, the artists are already talking this name right? Yesaul has sharpened the question ... You need to immediately notice and not forgive
    4. Garrin
      Garrin 4 May 2013 10: 23 New
      15
      Quote: pinecone
      Mention General Karbysheva next to all this bastard should not be.

      Yeah. I just want to add that in addition to the martyrdom accepted for their homeland, there was such a bright and heroic life that rare people had such a life. It was the Russo-Japanese War, and participation in the Brusilovsky breakthrough, and ensuring the breakthrough of the Mannerheim line, and the construction of the bastions of the Brest Fortress, in addition, a lot of scientific work, thousands of students, however you can’t list them all. And these creatures with their dirty tongues tremble the name of this Great and Bright Man.
      1. tttttt
        tttttt 4 May 2013 11: 17 New
        11
        Because this scum and hits the best of the best. By the way, I looked at the photo for the article. Not a single normal Russian face. Some mutants and geeks. You can call me anti-Semite. You can’t let it go. Urgant in Ukraine was not let down by an even more abstract expression. And here specifically, the Hero of War ...
        Yes, for such as garlands on lampposts, this pad_l must be hung. Write an appeal to the president.
        You can’t just leave it like that. Close the fuck this blya_stvo!
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 4 May 2013 15: 26 New
          +4
          It is necessary to introduce corporal punishment in the Criminal Code, we are "Asia" and do not look to the west, they are on their own, and we ourselves !!! And such "wumen" to tear naked N ... ne! So that others are not disagreeable !!! You do not need to hang, let the warrior guys give birth !!!
          1. Tverichanka
            Tverichanka 4 May 2013 20: 36 New
            +1
            Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
            Well ... ne! So that others are not disagreeable !!! No need to hang, let the warrior guys give birth!

            Oranges will not be born from aspen. I’m thin of grass off the field! ... And after the run, do you think, and mothers and fathers are proud of them? Most likely yes! So draw conclusions who and how raised them, on what values ​​... They didn’t come from Mars.
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 10 May 2013 16: 11 New
              0
              I think there are not many such people across the country, although a lot of things have changed over the past 20 years ...
        2. Torang
          Torang 4 May 2013 15: 29 New
          +4
          Quote: tttttt
          Yes, for such as garlands on lampposts, this pad_l must be hung.
          and that’s all it’s going for ... The West mistakenly perceives the calmness and seemingly humility of the Russians, taking patience for weakness, thinking that there is an irreversible process of transforming the Russian consciousness into liberal "values" ... But patience, as usual, will end and " the wind of history "and further in the text ... For a couple of generations, the brain has been dirtied, but it already was. This trash is one-time, and there will be no memory of it. In any case, I hope so.
  • Vladomir
    Vladomir 4 May 2013 06: 29 New
    15
    Like the Nazis, the land in Russia was burning under their feet, so it should burn with their ideological followers, shit-democrats and liberals.
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    1. esaul
      4 May 2013 07: 25 New
      16
      Hi Sasha.
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      So Valera, you being not even serving
      Sasha, where does this information come from? Or is it based on your conjectures made because of the lack of my stories about the heroic past? You guys are funny - then yesterday’s conversation of Apollo is clear, which he stubbornly pressed yesterday on a provocative button, trying to convince me that I “insulted a veteran”. I tried as best I could to explain (to explain, not justify myself! There is nothing to justify!) Apollo that he was mistaken, but I can’t put my brains into his skull box. And Apollo, apparently, wanted to cheaply "get up the mountain." As I see, it turned out.
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      pouring mud on Air Force VAF-Colonel Sergei.

      Take the trouble, go back and find my “mud pouring” of Mr. WAF. Then we'll talk. Just grab the statements and your client, who tirelessly lets the darling in his posts.
      I feel - you are trying to move all the discussions into the squabbling plane familiar to you.
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Shamelessly and shamelessly

      Guys, do not you talk about such moral categories! One has only to hurt your sick callus about conspiracy in PM to organize obstruction of the objectionable, so you rise - as the last and decisive battle. Your efforts, but in a constructive direction - you would not have a price.
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      on the eve of May 9

      That's it ... This is your comment, just a testament to the fact that it is more important for you to clarify the relationship, despite the fact that such a significant holiday is approaching.
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Your patriotism causes great doubts

      And your "patriotism", which manifests itself in a regular upbringing of events in the country, means it cannot raise doubts ... wink "You are a cheerful man ...!", As was said in One film ...
      It is a pity that even such a topic as a conversation on patriotism, you close up on their personal disassemblies. HERE AND ALL YOUR PATRIOTISM, LORD GOOD. One feels the "guiding and leading role" of the VAF. Well, this is an ordinary and favorite occupation for him.
      By the way - behind DVVPU. Unfortunately, he did not become a veteran - the hospital and the commission ...
      I have the honor, gentlemen, veterans. Unfortunately (and maybe fortunately) I will not be able to participate in further discussions of my patriotism - I'm going to work. "Our day is not NRmirovanny ..."
      1. esaul
        4 May 2013 07: 35 New
        +6
        Wow! What's going on guys? The word "colonel" in its purest form is issued as a "rug" Sasha, your freaks? You, as a moderator, have the opportunity to edit the text. So, if you so "rule", then this does not add honor to you.
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 4 May 2013 07: 43 New
          +2
          The word "colonel" in its purest form is issued as "rug"

          Well guys and the story unfolds)
          1. esaul
            4 May 2013 07: 45 New
            +2
            Quote: Gleb
            Well guys and the story unfolds)

            Most disgusting, Gleb hi
            1. domokl
              domokl 4 May 2013 08: 32 New
              +6
              Valera, Sasha, right now I’m going to die for you ... But now I’ll get the sword along the neck with a guy ... Showdowns need to be arranged in a personal, since you are so righteous ... I’ll go to hell am
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 4 May 2013 08: 43 New
                +5
                Quote: domokl
                Only now I will get the sword and on the necks with a guy.

                Sasha, hide your sword, better listen to a good song drinks in Russian
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 4 May 2013 07: 46 New
          0
          Quote: esaul
          The word "colonel" in pure version is issued as a "rug" Sasha, your freaks?

          I wrote everything to you in PM! answer to your koment will not and fall to the changes of other people's comments-this is not for me.
          And by the way, “fine” is also your jamb.
          Damn arranged a showdown, do you want srach to arrange scales in a personal!
          1. esaul
            4 May 2013 07: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I wrote everything to you in PM!

            I answered you in PM.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            there will be no answer to your koment and go down to changes in other people's comments - this is not for me

            I’m very glad. So the system "fools". In the draft I have the word "colonel" passes, as it should. Understand the words “clean” and “draft”
        3. esaul
          4 May 2013 07: 50 New
          +9
          It is extremely unfortunate that they are simply trying to ignore the topic outlined in the article and get into a showdown, which is fraught with blocking the entire branch by the Admin ....
        4. djon3volta
          djon3volta 4 May 2013 09: 41 New
          -5
          Quote: esaul
          You, as a moderator, have the opportunity to edit the text.

          so it turns out who edits and cuts my comments, although I guessed that way. Now I will know for 100% that there are two of them, an appalon and novels, put their hands on this. , recently here Tartary said that they have the function to remove ratings of 18, now my suspicions are justified.
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 4 May 2013 16: 25 New
            +6
            Quote: djon3volta
            if in modera and Baltika18, t

            "Praise and slander were received indifferently,
            And do not dispute the fool .... "
            request
        5. Yarbay
          Yarbay 7 May 2013 01: 22 New
          0
          and you are a moderator))))))))))
          in the sense of Sasha’s Katze is stronger than yours?))))))))))
          Gee)))
      2. Normal
        Normal 4 May 2013 09: 27 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Your patriotism causes big doubts when I see words like Main WAF.

        Quote: esaul
        You guys are funny - then the Apollo yesterday’s talk was understandable, which yesterday stubbornly pressed a provocative button, trying to convince me that I “insulted a veteran”. I tried to explain as much as I could (namely, explain, not justify! There is nothing to justify!) Apollo that he was mistaken, n - I can’t put my brains into his skull box. And Apollo, apparently, wanted to cheaply "get up the mountain." As I see, it turned out.

        I do not enter the group of comrades, one of the leaders of which is Romanov, but in this case, Romanov is absolutely right. Esaul took advantage of a dirty trick, and now condemns something similar in this article. Especially the answer of Esaul to Apollon does not look beautiful. To whom to whom, and Esaulu to Apollo in matters of objectivity and impartiality is very far.
        Yesaul, you do not need to make excuses, and do not explain yourself, but just apologize
        1. lewerlin53rus
          lewerlin53rus 4 May 2013 10: 09 New
          12
          You still have to fight, hot Finnish guys! It’s like “marshals” on the site, and you bark like a corporal. I understand that you have a slightly different look at some personalities and events, you don’t need to arrange a nosrach in the subject. The fact that you have the highest ranks here means that you have much more in common than disagreements.
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 4 May 2013 15: 46 New
            +1
            Quite right, in a personal place is not enough?
        2. baltika-18
          baltika-18 4 May 2013 16: 30 New
          +5
          Quote: Normal
          I don’t enter the group of comrades, one of the leaders of which is Romanov,

          Similarly.
          But I'm on his side. Why?
          We have the same views on almost all aspects, with the exception of religious issues.
          And I have a very positive attitude towards Sergey (VAF).
          But in principle, I propose to all parties the world in honor of the holidays. wink
          1. esaul
            4 May 2013 16: 51 New
            +1
            Quote: baltika-18
            But in principle, I propose to all parties the world in honor of the holidays.

            hi Nikolay. The offer is timely and necessary. Take the plus from me for sanity. drinks
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 4 May 2013 17: 00 New
              +3
              Quote: esaul
              Nikolay. The offer is timely and necessary.

              hi drinks
        3. Yarbay
          Yarbay 7 May 2013 01: 26 New
          0
          Quote: Normal
          I do not enter the group of comrades, one of the leaders of which is Romanov, but in this case, Romanov is absolutely right. Esaul took advantage of a dirty trick, and now condemns something similar in this article. Especially the answer of Esaul to Apollon does not look beautiful. To whom to whom, and Esaulu to Apollo in matters of objectivity and impartiality is very far.

          I do not know what this is about in this case, but I remember the old tricks of Comrade Esaul!
          I do not think that there is any sort of Romanov group!
          I personally consider Romanov and Sergey my friends, whom I met here and am proud of friendship with them, I am also convinced of the decency of Apollo, but this does not mean that I blindly agree with all their statements!
      3. makarich26
        makarich26 4 May 2013 14: 24 New
        +1
        Quote: esaul
        By the way - behind DVVPU

        Yesaul, so you, it turns out, are from the political forces! Everything with you is clear. Now your praises of the sunflower and his compass are clear. Habit is second nature.
        1. esaul
          4 May 2013 16: 11 New
          +3
          Quote: makarich26
          Yesaul, so you, it turns out, from the political forces!

          Do you think I will refuse? Not at all ... The Zampolitans — not the NKVD officers — fought on the front lines. I hope this photo tells you at least something.
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 4 May 2013 19: 57 New
            +5
            Quote: esaul
            The Zampolitans — not the NKVD officers — fought on the front lines.

            You would think that the NKVDshnikov was not there! Something you have forgotten, dear!
            1. esaul
              4 May 2013 21: 42 New
              +4
              Quote: Egoza
              Something you have forgotten, dear

              Good evening Elena hi
              No, I didn’t forget - I blundered a little in fever repeat I agree and the NKVD wasn’t the only one who served ... Just like everywhere, like everyone else .... Accept plus, madame, as an apology love
          2. urganov
            urganov 5 May 2013 01: 08 New
            -2
            The deputy politician, in the best case, is “working with a liver for inspectors,” basically it is “margarine,” that is, neither harm nor benefit. And honest honest sex from the official ideology-demagogy. I mean the profession.
          3. Yarbay
            Yarbay 7 May 2013 01: 28 New
            +1
            Quote: esaul
            Do you think I will refuse? Not at all ... The Zampolitans — not the NKVD officers — fought on the front lines. I hope this photo tells you at least something.

            And what did the NKVDshniki not please you ??
        2. Tverichanka
          Tverichanka 4 May 2013 20: 53 New
          +3
          Quote: makarich26
          praise of the sunflower and his compass. Habit is second nature.

          This is what you wrote to? I’m not a politician, but I praise the sun-faced so what? My beliefs and sympathies are relevant only to me. And if I want to express my point of view, I express it. I HAVE THE LAW! The same applies to Esaul. Who cares who who was? Or then familiarize us with your biography. Perhaps the relationship between your beliefs and your profession is also being found?
      4. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 4 May 2013 15: 30 New
        +2
        As in the kitchen communal St. Petersburg visited .. Not about that ..
      5. Apollo
        Apollo 4 May 2013 16: 44 New
        +6
        Quote: esaul
        You guys are funny - then the Apollo yesterday’s talk was understandable, which yesterday stubbornly pressed a provocative button, trying to convince me that I “insulted a veteran”. I tried to explain as much as I could (namely, explain, not justify! There is nothing to justify!) Apollo that he was mistaken, n - I can’t put my brains into his skull box. And Apollo, apparently, wanted to cheaply "get up the mountain." As I see, it turned out.


        Wow, we are guys, and you mean uncle. laughing
        Well Valery, I see a rich imagination in you. You should write books about science fiction or detective books, explain to people ignorant of this or that issue, thank God for me already enough, maybe I’ll be even older than you, as for authority, believe me, I he won it on the forum with his overwhelming work, without any protection whatsoever, he was not marked as some on the PR. As for the quote-Bother, go back and find my "mud-spraying" of Mr. VAF.
        they don’t need to look for them; they are in plain sight.
        Further, your quote, Guys, do not you talk about such moral categories! One has only to hurt your sick callus about conspiracy in PM to organize obstruction of the objectionable, as you rise, as the last and decisive battle. Your efforts, but in a constructive direction - you would not have a price.
        where there is a conspiracy with whom and when. facts, maybe correspondence in your hands, what evidence do you have?! I see you have a very rich imagination, with your imagination I will again refer to your own words. Your quote, your efforts, yes in a constructive direction - you would not have a price.
        very on time and by the way. it’s only a mistake that the address was wrong. this beautiful expression is addressed just to you and not to us.

        Do you think that criticism is the nurturing of the country?! It’s famous to listen to you in such a certain number of visitors as enemies of the people. In my understanding, if a person criticizes in the same way, it’s wonderful, the fate of the country is not indifferent, then the person is rooting for the country, by the way I’ll answer at the same time I’m personally not indifferent to the fate of Russia here, although I live in another state, I feel that we are together, which means I have every right to participate in the debate, by the way I would be very glad if you would at least once engage in constructive criticism of our country guidance and then you would not have a price. In your comments, except for the game and juggling words, I didn’t notice anything. But one moment is present namely who is not with us who is against us. Right ?!
        1. Anti
          Anti 4 May 2013 18: 35 New
          -3
          Quote: Apollon
          criticism


          Which was what Apollo needed to prove. I put you a minus and immediately received a response “Weighty” from you, because you have the opportunity for the moderator to see the pros and cons and who puts it. Not solid, sorry.
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 4 May 2013 19: 00 New
            +4
            Quote: Anti
            Which was what Apollo needed to prove. I put you a minus and immediately received a response “Weighty” from you, because you have the opportunity for the moderator to see the pros and cons and who puts it. Not solid, sorry.


            I want to disappoint you, not you are not your comments are not of interest to me laughing
            1. Anti
              Anti 4 May 2013 19: 18 New
              0
              Quote: Apollon
              I want to disappoint you, not you are not your comments are not of interest to me


              I’m not talking about your comments, don’t step aside. You use your position as a moderator, for your own purposes, that is, take revenge on those who disagree with you. Yes, I read your comments with great interest, although I disagree with many. Esaul’s comments are also not with everything.
              1. Apollo
                Apollo 4 May 2013 19: 23 New
                +3
                Quote: Anti
                I’m not talking about your comments, don’t step aside. You use your position as a moderator, for your own purposes, that is, take revenge on those who disagree with you. Yes, I read your comments with great interest, although I disagree with many. Esaul’s comments are also not with everything.


                Previously, your comments were at least of some interest, which can not be said now, my advice to you do not write your comments dictated by someone you know yourself. wassat

                as for the status of a moderator, sometimes I regret it, you know why because I want to because I can’t answer, but how to answer you’re like an old-timer, you know laughing
                For a word I’ll not get into my pocket !!!
                1. Anti
                  Anti 4 May 2013 19: 35 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Apollon
                  Previously, your comments were at least of some interest, which can not be said now, my advice to you is not to write your comments dictated by someone you yourself know.


                  What are you hinting at? Criticism should not be offensive, otherwise it is no longer criticism, but ordinary rudeness. I have always lived and live with my own head, without prompting from the side. I’ll tell you again, I myself. I will support any comment that is close to me, and also will not support any that is not. You use the status of a moderator for your own purposes, and this is not a buzz.
                  1. Apollo
                    Apollo 4 May 2013 19: 59 New
                    +5
                    Azerbaijan did not leave the USSR, the population voted for a renewed Union, we were betrayed as well as you, who, Yeltsin is burning in hell, I at least live in my republic, and where do you live in Germany, what the hell do you live in Germany, it would be better if you lived in Madagascar or in Mozambique it wouldn’t be so offensive.
                    1. Anti
                      Anti 4 May 2013 20: 14 New
                      0
                      Quote: Apollon
                      Azerbaijan did not leave the USSR, the population voted for a renewed Union, we were betrayed as well as you, who, Yeltsin is burning in hell, I at least live in my republic, and where do you live in Germany, what the hell do you live in Germany, it would be better if you lived in Madagascar or in Mozambique it wouldn’t be so offensive.


                      So, in your opinion, when I live in Germany, I worry less and am rooting for my homeland than you do in Azerbaijan? Why this question, avoiding the topic? Then you should not develop this topic further, you know my point of view.
                  2. esaul
                    4 May 2013 21: 50 New
                    0
                    Quote: Anti
                    I’ll tell you again, I myself. I will support any comment that is close to me, and also will not support any that is not

                    Greetings Oleg hi Take the pros for a decent position and answers.
                    1. Anti
                      Anti 4 May 2013 22: 06 New
                      +3
                      Hello Valery, I would like to quote from a post from a site visitor: "The pluses and shoulder straps are important to me in any way, but as a support of my opinion on some issue !!" Yarbay April 16, 2013 16:14

                      hi
                      1. esaul
                        4 May 2013 22: 19 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Anti
                        "The pluses and shoulder straps are important to me in any way, but as a support of my opinion on some issue !!"

                        To me, these words of the said comrade, the same, are to my liking and consonant. thank drinks
                      2. Anti
                        Anti 4 May 2013 22: 26 New
                        +1
                        Quote: esaul
                        To me, these words of the said comrade, the same, are to my liking and consonant.


                        On that and stand! drinks
                      3. Anti
                        Anti 5 May 2013 22: 30 New
                        +1
                        East is a delicate matter!!!!! lol
                  3. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 7 May 2013 01: 31 New
                    0
                    hmm))))
                    quote pad collect Winnie?)))
                    why secretly, I would turn to you my notebook would give)))))))))
                    Well, you and the bug)))))
                  4. Anti
                    Anti 7 May 2013 01: 35 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    why, on the quiet, would I turn to you my notebook


                    You don’t bully Alibaba’s nose, you’ll hit the ceiling))))
            2. Yarbay
              Yarbay 7 May 2013 01: 50 New
              0
              Quote: Anti
              and the usual hamst

              Vinnie)))
              Well, about rudeness, I would not say anything))))
              Whoever you are not rude here))))))))))
              1. Anti
                Anti 7 May 2013 01: 55 New
                +1
                Quote: Yarbay
                Whoever you are not rude here))))))))))


                The teachers here were good. By the way, you are one of them, Alibaba)
    2. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 5 May 2013 02: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: Anti
      I put you a minus and immediately received the response "Weighty"

      Catch one more - from me personally negative That life would not seem honey wassat
      1. Anti
        Anti 5 May 2013 09: 28 New
        -3
        Quote: Ruslan67
        Catch one more - from me personally negative That life would not seem like honey wassat


        negative It’s like licking, I didn’t think that you .. negative
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 6 May 2013 02: 59 New
          +6
          Quote: Anti
          I didn’t think that you ..

          Do not think further wassat Tired of disassembly because of all garbage fool
          1. Anti
            Anti 6 May 2013 09: 38 New
            0
            Quote: Ruslan67
            Don’t think about it anymore. Wassat Tired of disassembly due to any fool stuff

            am am am
            1. Apollo
              Apollo 6 May 2013 23: 53 New
              +1
              Anti


              you don’t have to grit your teeth,

              1. Anti
                Anti 6 May 2013 23: 58 New
                -1
                Quote: Apollon
                you don’t have to grit your teeth,


                but the fact that? am
                1. Apollo
                  Apollo 7 May 2013 00: 09 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Anti
                  but the fact that?


                  but the fact that

                  You don’t grit your teeth with me. You erase them even to the roots. I’ll puff ugh on your creak, understand?

                  Guess the first time, the author, then laughing
                2. Anti
                  Anti 7 May 2013 00: 12 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Apollon
                  You don’t grit your teeth with me. You erase them even to the roots. I’ll puff ugh on your creak, understand?


                  Not you but you. Contact me the only way. Zhiglov or what?
                3. Apollo
                  Apollo 7 May 2013 00: 13 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Anti
                  Not you, but you. Contact me the only way.


                  it’s not me, but the protagonist of the film cannot change the meeting place. I simply quoted him unequivocally. However, your nerves also give you problems with humor, trouble laughing
                4. Anti
                  Anti 7 May 2013 00: 17 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Apollon
                  Not you, but you. Contact me the only way.


                  so it’s not me either, it’s you to yourself. Remember your mail?
                5. Apollo
                  Apollo 7 May 2013 00: 22 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Anti
                  so it’s not me either, it’s you to yourself. Remember your mail?


                  what you started as in the movie there I remember I don’t remember, by God don’t tell me not the others, you’re a bit tense with humor, all the problems laughingIf it was a little warm-up, which you did not pass good night Oleg, do not be sad and do not take to heart, it happens.
                6. Anti
                  Anti 7 May 2013 00: 29 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Apollon
                  You’re a little tight


                  with this I can live than rich.
                  Hey, comedian.
                7. Apollo
                  Apollo 7 May 2013 00: 36 New
                  +2
                  Well, you see, it’s not all lost, life goes on, right?! You are our embittered. laughingJudging by your avatar, you wilted, such a feeling that you were heartbroken ?! You used to have another, cheerful avatar.
                8. Anti
                  Anti 7 May 2013 00: 42 New
                  0
                  Quote: Apollon
                  You had a different, cheerful avatar.


                  So I tried it many times, it doesn’t pass and the pictures do not pass.
                9. Apollo
                  Apollo 7 May 2013 00: 51 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Anti
                  So I tried it many times, it doesn’t pass and the pictures do not pass.


                  and you will contact your protégé or your newly-born friend, bro, he will certainly help you. Someone is the one with whom you were killed not for life but for death and he will help you. Hint: You recently quoted his words in your comment and communicated so friendly, do not spill water laughing the paradox didn’t know that miracles happen on the forum. laughing
                10. Anti
                  Anti 7 May 2013 01: 06 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Apollon
                  Who, so this is the one with whom you were cut not for life but for death


                  Yarbai or what? He is on my blacklist under the number 2, and why can I not try out something that coincides with my opinion? Unless, of course, the quote is not lacquered. And what not to talk about? Everything has its time and peace and warrior. There is no peace without war.
                  Why did you get some kind of protection? I am on my own.

                  You recently quoted his words in your comment

                  Or is it a hint?
                11. Apollo
                  Apollo 7 May 2013 01: 09 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Anti
                  Yarbai or what? He is on my blacklist under the number 2, and why can I not try out something that coincides with my opinion? Unless, of course, the quote is not lacquered. And what not to talk about? Everything has its time and peace and warrior. There is no peace without war.



                  You and that hypocrite God help you, all hang up !!!
                12. Anti
                  Anti 7 May 2013 01: 25 New
                  +1
                  And let him not deprive you of his attention.
              2. Yarbay
                Yarbay 7 May 2013 01: 35 New
                +1
                Quote: Anti
                Yarbai or what? He is on my blacklist under the number 2, and why can I not try out something that coincides with my opinion? Unless, of course, the quote is not lacquered. And what not to talk about? Everything has its time and peace and warrior. There is no peace without war.

                how scary I am))))))))))
                and why number 2?)))
                Growth I did not come out?)))
                and about the war, I do not fight against people of dishonor and dignity virtually))) I didn’t even fight much honor with your master !!
              3. Anti
                Anti 7 May 2013 01: 40 New
                +1
                Quote: Yarbay
                I'm not fighting people of dishonor and dignity)


                Thanks for the compliment!!)

                I didn’t even fight with him much honor with your master !!


                Still want to be number 1?
  • kush62
    kush62 5 May 2013 05: 35 New
    -3
    Mr. Romanov (for some reason, with a small letter?), as I understand it, it implements used cars from Japan, with which we do not have a peace treaty, but also consider himself a patriot. That is, it offers a car from under the ass of enemies - the Japs.
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 6 May 2013 03: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: kush62
      kush62

      Have you decided to join a certain side? what
  • zvereok
    zvereok 4 May 2013 06: 32 New
    -23
    People make money and make funny shows. I'm glad that they are shown and not Galkin. Ummm, with regard to personal experiences, what prevents you from pressing the TNT button is a continuous, round-the-clock "bawdy". You can even lock yourself up at home and delete from your memory the hours of watching the “Bawdy” KVN, with this “bald major”.

    Only if she “lost the line of permissiveness, a sense of tact and a sense of conscience”, dropped it as a joke, it is quite possible not fully understanding what it was about - in a humorous project, then on the other channel such things are said in all seriousness.
    1. magadanets
      magadanets 4 May 2013 07: 19 New
      +3
      I don’t agree with you about the button. Yes, and there is no alternative on the other channel. The same muck, in principle, on the other channel. It should not be on any channel of this abomination.
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 4 May 2013 08: 27 New
        -10
        Quote: magadanets
        I don’t agree with you about the button. Yes, and there is no alternative on the other channel. The same muck, in principle, on the other channel. It should not be on any channel of this abomination.


        As soon as a normal youth channel appears, with funny jokes about the government (which they are sooo afraid to hurt), about agents of the State Department, about the West, About AlahAkbar. Young people will begin to watch it.

        And now, if you please have something, that is, you want to laugh, watch Kamedi-Vumen once a week, about life, or once a year a direct line with Vladimir Vladimirovich, also about life, is also funny.
        1. korm-yurii
          korm-yurii 4 May 2013 12: 42 New
          +2
          For me, this is complete shit and this channel is deleted.
    2. Renat
      Renat 4 May 2013 07: 56 New
      +7
      It’s still dirty to make money and do shows on insulting our history and heroes. And on other channels, on a serious one, this is an ideological diversion aimed at a more serious audience. TNT is watching young people, fed up with such jokes, they are seriously taking information by switching the channel.
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 4 May 2013 08: 19 New
        -5
        Quote: Renat
        It’s still dirty to make money and do shows on insulting our history and heroes.



        Comedy Wumen on TNT appeared several years ago. And now there’s one cant on their part (I suppose unconscious), and now they earn money by insulting heroes? In my opinion this is nonsense. Moreover, I think the jamb surfaced due to the fact that on TNT the day before yesterday they played it all day, and the show itself with the "jamb" was not at all dedicated to the May 9. Just a funny show. Much funnier and more talented than Petrosyan and Galkin.

        Quote: Renat
        TNT is watching young people, fed up with such jokes, they are seriously taking information by switching the channel.


        But is it because it is watching that the first channel is not interesting to watch? Well, of course there are fans of Let's Get Married and Dr. Malakhov.

        And jokes, like jokes, are funny for the most part.
        1. Renat
          Renat 4 May 2013 08: 34 New
          +9
          Such jokes are designed for an audience for whom the bible is House-2 and Sobchak and Malakhov are gods. It is not necessary to introduce strict censorship, it is necessary to introduce responsibility for insulting the feelings of the nation, including its heroes. At least a public apology for the "cant."
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 4 May 2013 15: 52 New
            +1
            1000000 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    3. tttttt
      tttttt 4 May 2013 11: 33 New
      +2
      Only if she “lost the line of permissiveness, a sense of tact and a sense of conscience”, dropped it as a joke, it is quite possible not fully understanding what it was about - in a humorous project, then on the other channel such things are said in all seriousness.


      So that this brainless stuffed animal doesn’t “drop as a joke” - you need to learn what you can and what not, drive understanding into Bosko.

      People make money and make funny shows.


      Well, this is generally beyond comprehension. So money is above all? Honor, conscience? If you amuse tragedy of the martyrdom of a Russian hero you have no place on earth, you are not a man at all.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 4 May 2013 12: 14 New
        +7
        Yes, they don’t know about Karbyshev’s Feat, if they knew, they wouldn’t blurt it out!
    4. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 4 May 2013 15: 49 New
      +1
      Do you think they do not rehearse ... Impromptu get in touch .. I doubt it!
  • Irkutsk
    Irkutsk 4 May 2013 06: 38 New
    10
    Vasya 71st is a clear provocateur; there are no such stupid ones. It should have been simply ignored, but then such wonderful answers would not have been read. And IN an outlet for people, it's nice to listen to you all. Hello.
    1. Alexander Petrovich
      Alexander Petrovich 4 May 2013 07: 41 New
      +5
      In my opinion there are plenty of provocateurs, so I seriously do not take any of them. And you know, I think it’s not necessary to be very indignant about insulting the memory of Victory, because those who insult it are our enemies, and the vile ones, those people against whom our ancestors fought and wonders at their statements, you just need to give in the face when meeting them like a warrior. I personally was very much offended by the words of the Romanian and part of the Moldavian nationalists about the Second World War, I was insulted until I realized that they were enemies, those against whom we may fight in the future.
      1. Irkutsk
        Irkutsk 4 May 2013 10: 33 New
        +2
        It is not the case when meeting in the face to give, if only in response. And how to recognize such people, because they don’t walk in horns and hooves. And there are enough people who want to reconsider the justice of Victory, both on us and on the fraternal nezalezhnoy. It’s useless to treat, you won’t succeed with your fist, you don’t really want a war either, or only in return, as in 41-45m. Then we sign on their main walls.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 4 May 2013 08: 35 New
      +8
      Quote: Irkutsk
      Vasya 71st is a clear provocateur; there are no such stupid ones.

      Apparently, a message on the Eye Planet somehow slipped past everyone’s attention
      Military war trolls or what budget money is for
      It's no secret that all these many people with
      shoulder straps, ksivy, purses or machine guns called the armed forces,
      law enforcement agencies, special services and others are exclusively funded
      from the budget, say from our pocket. Because even if we do not wish
      pay taxes, then by buying something we already pay one of the taxes and so on.
      So, recently, the leaders of many of these power structures
      preoccupied with the creation of a kind of “Internet troops”. Moreover, the purpose of these
      "Trolls in the civil service" is not at all in the conduct of a psychological war for the good
      Homeland, and in stupid art "in kamenty." In the interest, again, not
      Homeland, and the very authorities. And what is the interest of the authorities? One side,
      probably, sometimes it’s just a shame to read something critical about yourself. And on the other
      parties - it’s scary that a larger boss will read the article, but at the same time
      reads and comments. In general, a bad thing. But, as it turned out, organized and
      paid. The editorial staff got some interesting letters that he sent
      an employee of the Ministry of Defense to his “employees”. Enjoy it. (Well and on there)
      http://oko-planet.su/politik....ta.html
      XXXX
      And although this report speaks of Ukrainian “fighters,” whom Vasya may refer to, I do not exclude the possibility that the same units were created in the Russian Federation and other fraternal countries.
      1. Irkutsk
        Irkutsk 4 May 2013 10: 42 New
        +3
        So these who work komentzasrami immediately visible, and God bless them, turn on the ignore button and continue to communicate. They will not pay for a talented troll for a long time, they will go to the category of losers and join the ranks of swamps offended
    3. AK-47
      AK-47 4 May 2013 11: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: Irkutsk
      Vasya 71st is a clear provocateur ... and VO is an outlet for people, it's nice to listen to you all

      ++++++++++++. yes
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  • Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 4 May 2013 06: 51 New
    +1
    gum wumen is designed for "their" viewer. it’s just that you don’t have to watch it gamut that's all. you can’t redo their head anymore, over time, the rating will drop and the gear will be covered
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 4 May 2013 06: 56 New
      -1
      Please give an example of a funny comedy show on TV? News 1 channel for many years as not funny.
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 4 May 2013 07: 16 New
        +4
        And here, Ural Dumplings still like ... Also, probably the enemies of the people.
      2. Ragnarek
        Ragnarek 4 May 2013 07: 22 New
        +1
        Yes, I do not look much. sometimes in kvn there are good jokes
        1. zvereok
          zvereok 4 May 2013 07: 51 New
          0
          KVN used to watch, but there recently, for the sake of one good joke, sometimes for half an hour you had to listen to bad ones. Stopped it. There used to be teams that really burned. Including with Khrustalev from St. Petersburg team.
  • pravednik
    pravednik 4 May 2013 06: 59 New
    +9
    I want to ask our lawmakers why they can’t, or maybe don’t want, adopt a law on insulting heroes, defenders of our country. You will see who are not too lazy to insult the memory of the dead, and prisoners of concentration camps and participants in armed conflicts (the Motherland sent them there to protect us all ,
    including those same freaks who in every possible way want to humiliate and reduce the GREATNESS of the defenders of the Fatherland. To see our deputies only think about protecting their honor, although the reputation of their honor is a big question.
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 4 May 2013 07: 17 New
      +2
      I want to ask our legislators

      Want to ask her? State Duma deputy!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3qHtRsnJM4
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 4 May 2013 08: 04 New
        +2
        To point + 10000
  • magadanets
    magadanets 4 May 2013 06: 59 New
    +9
    And they don’t show normal people in the mailbox for a long time. Therefore, the programs are like that. We’re filming, sometimes I’m showing them, then NTVeshnikov, or some other not traditional ones. They either sing songs about the blue moon, then Stalin is bad, then Vlasov’s heroes, then white condoms they’re calling me to hang on my chest. Now I’m completely insolent, I’ve taken the holy day, Victory Day. I couldn’t think about this, what is possible. I know from the media about the club and the club’s gum or how it is right, because I can’t do this muck watch for more than 2 seconds. House5 even when this rubbish started looked 2 minutes, spat and turned off. That's the language asking for the phrase- ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE.
  • fenix57
    fenix57 4 May 2013 07: 04 New
    +6
    Creativity(from the English create - create, create) - the creative abilities of the individual, characterized by a willingness to accept and create fundamentally new ideas that deviate from traditional or accepted patterns of thinking and are included in the giftedness structure as an independent factor, as well as the ability to solve problems that arise inside static systems.
    Indeed, with what, but the talents mentioned in the article "Razvlekalov's participants" cannot boast in any way (judging by the neighing of a horse over flat "jokes").
    Quote: pinecone
    Mention General Karbyshev next to all this scum should not

    All of those involved, and the audience in the studio, apparently studied the history of our country from newspaper clippings from the Western media and have no idea what it is about. hi
    1. tomket
      tomket 4 May 2013 08: 15 New
      +2
      The most interesting thing is that most of the audience of KAM6di probably don’t know who General Karbyshev is, then the question arises, is the sense in such jokes for these creatives, to kick a dead lion ???
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 4 May 2013 07: 15 New
    +4
    This bohemian already got it. This Mr.Zi has no conscience. There was a similar article recently. I registered from the heart (not obscene) these bohemian ... The comment was deleted. Conclusion: "remoter" is the same of those bohemian?
  • magadanets
    magadanets 4 May 2013 07: 27 New
    +5
    [quote = FC Skiff] There is such a word, censorship is called ...
    I suspect that TV is controlled from overseas. Censorship will not help. They and the censor will control
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    2. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 4 May 2013 08: 49 New
      +2
      Naturally, Chubais did not “know” that he was working with the Central Bank agents in the government! Yes, apparently, and the FSB about this "no idea" ...
  • OTAKE
    OTAKE 4 May 2013 07: 32 New
    +5
    Blow the redheads, the rest in a hurry, the bald forest fell, and no problem)
  • Captain Vrungel
    Captain Vrungel 4 May 2013 07: 38 New
    +7
    What do you think, as the late great-grandmother of Sim said, these street booths, pickers of coppers, in their times they buried behind the fence of the churchyard. Now the times are different. And this beztalnaya, vulgar shushera, arrogant scribblers of dough, climbed onto screens and scenes, and even central ones. Insolent garlic of Kharlamov are the standard of modernity. The main characters of the screen, this is the so-called "Beau monde" and "Golden youth" burning life arrogant, vulgar, cynical, stoned or drunk.
    Pay attention to who the main character they are promoting. Ordinary one-mean, or a fool with a dashed gyrus. Humor is completely replaced by vulgar and pahabshin. Having lighted up on KVN and having got a taste, rushed to scratch the clubs, women, dumplings.
    Who is the main character advocated for us by "high art" is a bandit, a loafer, a rich man and the humiliated, ridiculed by them surrounding them, i.e. people.
    But, capitalism, fellow citizens. Everyone scratches money as he can and how he can. Loot is primary, morality ... but it is simply superfluous.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 4 May 2013 07: 59 New
      +6
      Ek how the social status of Humor has changed. He used to “make fun of”, now he is “propagandizing”.
  • tomket
    tomket 4 May 2013 07: 42 New
    +3
    Well, isn’t it clear that today they are laughing at the Motherland and Heroes of the country, and tomorrow you can betray this Motherland, and aren't the Heroes laughing at them? In general, the number of people wishing to join Pussy is growing.
    1. AK-47
      AK-47 4 May 2013 11: 22 New
      +8
      Quote: tomket
      ... well, isn't it understandable, today they are laughing at the Motherland ...

      ... and normal people.
  • Humpty
    Humpty 4 May 2013 07: 46 New
    10
    Gums -women, clubs made by degenerates about degenerates and for degenerates.
    They would have amused me from the heart of the show where they sawed logs with real malachov and other ernsts in real time as long as sod-2.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 4 May 2013 13: 30 New
      +3
      And we, will we be able to crush this Mr.z all together? And as I would like. I am with you, Humpty.
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 4 May 2013 08: 02 New
    +2
    Just censorship is not very good. Need an ideology. And already from this ideology to dance. There, censorship as such will not be needed. And now there is the OWNER. And everyone is dancing from the owner. What can I say, what would the owner like, how to please the owner ... Ideology is a complex thing, it takes a long time to implement. So can start to put the right owners?
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 4 May 2013 08: 32 New
      +3
      Ideology with 90x grandmas to grab, and its main guide to the life of the State machine, with the same 90x. As the powers that be are saturated, they have a conscience and a sense of patriotism, as well as children whose saturation has not yet occurred.
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 4 May 2013 16: 17 New
      0
      Master, but not complete! It would be complete, the media and TV would have long been disgusting, would have refused !!!
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 4 May 2013 08: 36 New
    +7
    zvereok RU Today, 06:32 AM
    People make money and make funny shows. I'm glad that they are shown and not Galkin. Ummm, with regard to personal experiences, what prevents you from pressing the TNT button ...


    It is outrageous that the authorities allow EARNING money at any cost! On the one hand, TRY TO educate YOUTH, and on the other hand, they turn a blind eye to immoral, vulgar programs aimed at the degradation of this very YOUTH! A mature, intelligent person, of course, will click on this BUTTON, but for a teenager, a child would rather want to see a “light”, “funny” program than an informative, useful, well, at least not destroying HIS not yet formed WORLD VIEW. So from all comedy, yes durdomov-2, etc., the children have a "roof" and go, and cynical, immoral people grow up for whom, besides having $, there is nothing valuable and HOLY! Hence, prostitutes, and juvenile killers, torturers of their own peers ... Even children's cartoons are crammed with swear words, constant "petty" dirty tricks in the relations of characters, dull stories! It is necessary to introduce censorship on TV, and not for the sake of the liberals to corrupt young people! Where is the work of the Ministry of CULTURE and IDEOLOGY ?!
  • My address
    My address 4 May 2013 08: 43 New
    +4
    Unfortunately, such transmissions can be done by degenerates, but by the order of clever traitors.
    I wonder what kind of anti-Russian film will NTV on Victory Day? Previously, they differed preparation slop. The impression that the Patriots coexist on the NTV and the fifth column. Or did it come to the Kremlin and Miller was given the command to say “Fu”? And many know that the TNT channel, which is doing well in youngsters' obscene, belongs to Gazprom, i.e. to the state?
  • VDV 80-82
    VDV 80-82 4 May 2013 08: 46 New
    -10
    in no way justifying Comedy Wumen, I want to tell Mr. Esaul that he is too categorical! Well, guys from this show, so keep in mind at what time and in what environment they grew up! Well, our dear veterans themselves are quite humorous and adequate uncles and aunts ... and the same Hero of the Soviet Union, General Karbyshev died, including for the fact that such unreasonable descendants could freely express their thoughts! IMHO ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 4 May 2013 08: 49 New
      +9
      Quote: VDV 80-82
      well, guys from this show, so keep in mind at what time and in what environment they grew up

      Sorry, but for those who manage the TNT channel for how many years? What society did they grow up in?
      Quote: VDV 80-82
      ... and the same Hero of the Soviet Union, General Karbyshev, was killed including for the fact that such unreasonable descendants could freely express their thoughts!

      They died for the fact that there would be no such scoundrels!
    2. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 4 May 2013 09: 04 New
      0
      minus, and I do not even want to comment.
    3. Hleb
      Hleb 4 May 2013 10: 27 New
      +1
      descendants were free to express their thoughts

      it’s hard to digest what they perished for. It’s possible to understand a person for their views, opinions ... but for example, House-2 I can’t understand. I still don’t understand those who like it. Often it’s so annoying to TV but the house is alone from several scandalous programs, which does not leave me indifferent.
    4. Ribwort
      Ribwort 4 May 2013 12: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: VDV 80-82
      Hero of the Soviet Union, General Karbyshev died, including for the fact that such unreasonable descendants could freely express their thoughts!

      Do you really think what it is?
  • VDV 80-82
    VDV 80-82 4 May 2013 08: 53 New
    +3
    died for the motherland !!! without separating scoundrels from normal people! Alexander, be gentle to people, the more they are still very young
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 4 May 2013 09: 19 New
      +8
      Quote: VDV 80-82
      Alexander, be gentle to people, the more they are still very young

      The management of TNT and NTV is far from young, and it is they who determine what programs should be and what kind of humor should be. For them, money means much more than memory and history.
      1. VDV 80-82
        VDV 80-82 4 May 2013 09: 48 New
        +4
        I'm not talking about the leadership of the channel ... they initially position themselves as entertaining ... but since while they do not violate the laws, there is nothing to close them! But what violates moral and ethical standards ... this is not a corner! I absolutely do not support them, understand correctly ... it’s just that we have already passed this “to keep and not let go”
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 4 May 2013 13: 20 New
          +1
          drove something into the minus
        2. Egoza
          Egoza 4 May 2013 20: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: VDV 80-82
          But what violates moral and ethical standards ... this is not a corner! I absolutely do not support them, understand correctly ... it’s just that we have already passed this “to keep and not let go”

          If they know how to violate moral and ethical standards, let them know how to apologize and learn to think what they say. From violations of moral and ethical standards to criminality is one step.
  • radio operator
    radio operator 4 May 2013 08: 58 New
    +2
    I completely agree with the author!
    What I would like to add. These individuals can not be redone, our task is to raise our children with dignity. If possible, exclude liberal elements in the worldview and give more spiritual beginning to immature souls.
    1. radio operator
      radio operator 4 May 2013 12: 49 New
      +3
      Fyodor Tyutchev
      Vain work - no, you will not understand them, -
      The more liberal, the more vulgar,
      Civilization is a fetish for them,
      But their idea is not available to them.

      As you bow down before her, gentlemen,
      You do not get recognition from Europe:
      In her eyes, you will always
      They are not servants of enlightenment, but servants.
  • vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 4 May 2013 09: 03 New
    +8
    Yes, this is our victory, but not theirs, for them today there is nothing more valuable than money, everything else is rubbish and its waste. In the trash honor, conscience, justice. Already I want from that baldezha who staged on TV. To be honest, I’ve almost never looked at the mailbox for a couple of years, sometimes only news, and even that is disgusting. You’ll see how the deceased Thatcher is praised on all channels, or the race expresses condolences to the president of America. While no one even stutters about the killing of dozens of schoolchildren in Syria. So I think who is laughing at the pioneers in the Soviet Union now? But what have we been taught in pioneering? someone may find the charter or oath of a pioneer upon entry. All buried, all vulgarized, what gave in return? what do modern pioneer schoolchildren think about, what principles do they have in mind? So they will grow up with such principles as people without honor and conscience. It's only the beginning.
    1. VDV 80-82
      VDV 80-82 4 May 2013 09: 12 New
      +3
      You see, people are not robots! everyone has their own character, upbringing, interests ... the task of parents and the older generation in general is to prevent breaking the ties of the times so that our boys and girls are proud that they are Russian! by Russians, I mean not only nationality, but generally the mentality ... Kazakh, Ossetian, Chechen ... if they cherish the Russian World and the Glory of their ancestors who fought together against the fascists at the front.
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 4 May 2013 10: 19 New
        +6
        Who do children now believe more? to parents? who plow for say a small salary, or maybe managers whose salary is two, three times as much. Or even better, a TV that screams every minute, buy it. No money is not a problem, take a loan, but buy it. Is it now on TV they urge to be honest, decent. If there are such heroes, they are just not an example to follow. Yes, they are honest, they are decent, but they are poor, suckers as young people call them. Poor parents, or let's say not rich, are shy. They often despise, and sometimes even hate. And these are not isolated cases, unfortunately this tendency has a place for development.
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  • Tihas
    Tihas 4 May 2013 09: 21 New
    +5
    A little help:
    The channel is the property of Gazprom-Media Media Holding
    OJSC Gazprom Media
    Owner: Holding is owned by Gazprombank; actual control is exercised by the state gas monopoly Gazprom. Gazprombank is controlled by the non-state pension fund Gazfond (50% plus 1 share). The Russian gas monopoly OAO Gazprom owns another 41,7% of the shares. New financial technologies LLC owns another 6,3% of shares, 99,99% of which belongs to Gazprombank itself
    Key figures: Alexander Dybal (chairman of the board of directors), Nikolai Senkevich (general director).
    Revenue: In 2007, the total revenue of the holding amounted to more than 1 million US dollars (compared with 275, an increase of 2006%).
    Assets:
    - Television companies "NTV", "TNT", satellite television company "NTV-Plus"
    - Radio stations "Echo of Moscow", "First Popular Radio" ("Pops"), NEXT, "CITY-FM", Relax-FM, "Children's Radio"
    Not all assets. Completely here: http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/sokol_14/post93393616/
  • kind
    kind 4 May 2013 09: 23 New
    +7
    The TNT channel generally drives all kinds of rubbish like Dom-2, gum, etc. All programs are riddled with cheap rudeness, it's time to close it. It’s rightly said about censorship, it’s time to tighten it.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 4 May 2013 09: 52 New
      +1
      No, you shoot Serdyukov first, and then censorship (which by the way has long been on TV).
  • Uzoliv
    Uzoliv 4 May 2013 09: 49 New
    +1
    Quote from the author: “I came home from work, turned on the TV for the background, periodically“ shoot ”with the remote control, and so it is necessary,” I landed on the “Comedy Wumen” - I was cooking it, which I always kept for cheap crafts that are not worthy of their very existence. ” Nevertheless, you have watched it to the end. What for? This is some kind of masochism.
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 4 May 2013 10: 08 New
      +3
      “peeping” is sometimes useful, in order to know WHO and WHAT “feed” our children, shape their moral, intellectual worldview, attitude to the Motherland!
  • Mhpv
    Mhpv 4 May 2013 09: 49 New
    +5
    Actually, in our country, the mine for prostitution has not yet been canceled, and the Public House-2 public relations campaign is in full swing at TNT, where all the participants walked around in circles even the old mother and she stared at this disgrace where fathers look when they scoff at them daughters, as we spiritually impoverished, a shame.
    NTV is generally a miracle channel, then about bandits they turned films now about cops, they got sick of it, but Sveta Chicken is a girl with eyes of a baby, on the principle of so what is that stupid, but on TV and Ren-TV is also some kind of nonsense.
    In general, it’s time for the state to nationalize television, or even the news for half an hour.
  • Mhpv
    Mhpv 4 May 2013 09: 54 New
    +4
    Look, even Yandex every day about the Tsarnaev hysteria, as if apologizing to the amers.
    In this regard, Kadyrov, well done, they did not live in Chechnya, you raised them and went ......
    Everything is clear and understandable.
  • bddrus
    bddrus 4 May 2013 10: 08 New
    +5
    gum vumen - I estimate for myself as follows - one more proof that women have nothing to do in humor. (as they say - girls no offense)
  • Genur
    Genur 4 May 2013 10: 33 New
    +4
    [quote = Rus2012] Everything is very simple, our homegrown "enlightened liberalists" expelled one general and included another in the school curriculum ...
    Until we clean the "Agie’s stables" from shit - it will be so ... [/ quote

    I fully support your opinion. While "giving" air to all kinds of "Ehams" and the president is talking with Benediktov, while the low-level SHOWs on the air continue, you should not expect positive changes.
  • shinobi
    shinobi 4 May 2013 10: 54 New
    +2
    Baba from the show most likely didn’t even understand what she had voiced. But the scribbler of the person who wrote the text should be brought to socially useful work for 15 days. To wash public toilets. And so with all the like. You look at television less
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 4 May 2013 12: 29 New
      +3
      Naturally, an entire generation of EMPTY HEALTHS has grown up - the result of reforms in the education of Fursenko, Medvedev with the tacit consent of Putin! Maybe it’s DAMAGE even and doesn’t know who Karbyshev is, if many of the “products” of the reform find it difficult to say: “The Sun is around the Earth or the Earth is around the Sun ...”, and the girl, half Japanese, does not know what Hiroshima and Nagasaki are.
  • Good fellow
    Good fellow 4 May 2013 11: 51 New
    10
    He studied at the school named after Karbyshev. There was a magnificent museum of military glory, there was a monument to the Hero - from a block like a mighty torso of a warrior from ice with bound hands and an unconquered gaze, there were letters and photographs. Once the head teacher caught me and my friend in the corridor (we skipped) and instead of reporting back, kindly asked me for a favor: with a friend we carried an honor guard, I remember that responsibility, understanding that I was skipping and now I have unworthy the honor of guarding, and so imperceptibly, to himself, he apologized to Dmitry Mikhailovich Karbyshev. We were such Soviet children brought up by the Great Patriotic War, Robin Hoods, Electronics, Alisa Selezneva, Uncle Styopa as a policeman, ordinary Petrovs and Vasechkins. Playing war games in the yard, they hoarsely cursed for the right to fight for ours.
  • Dimkapvo
    Dimkapvo 4 May 2013 12: 30 New
    +4
    There was such a gloomy article in the Criminal Code of the USSR - "Mockery at the memory of the fallen ..", unfortunately I can’t completely remember the text - I have been mentioned several times in various publications. Does anyone know if there was such an article, and if so, is it acting now? It would be very useful for such!
  • Mhpv
    Mhpv 4 May 2013 12: 41 New
    +2
    Yes, just strip these monkeys naked and under a cold shower, the show will be
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 4 May 2013 13: 46 New
      0
      It is advisable in the winter and on the street! - let them laugh ...
  • Shawnee
    Shawnee 4 May 2013 12: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: zvereok
    our culture has degraded

    Businessman Mikhail Prokhorov turned to the St. Petersburg governor with a proposal to take on financial care for the Aurora if the cruiser is withdrawn from the Russian Navy.

    Information that the legendary cruiser can be withdrawn from the Russian Navy appeared in November. So the “Aurora” was going to punish for the party, which in June, Mikhail Prokhorov arranged on board it. For the cruiser, this would mean the disappearance of the Andreev flags, the loss of a military crew and the transformation into a regular museum. The final decision on this issue has not yet been announced.

    Meanwhile, the culprit of the scandal unexpectedly stood up for the ship - Prokhorov himself. The businessman turned to the governor of St. Petersburg Valentina Matvienko with a proposal to finance the continued existence of the cruiser. The motivation is unexpected: the oligarch claims that he intends to take “Aurora” under guardianship in order to continue to prevent the holding of entertainment events on it.

    “Recently, there has been a sharp discussion in the media about the possible withdrawal of the cruiser from the Navy and, as a result, the cessation of financing of the facility from the Ministry of Defense. I see in this the danger that the cruiser Aurora, and so become In recent years, the venue for a huge number of events and festivals, filming of films and videos, will finally turn into an entertainment venue, and I believe that this cannot be allowed, as it will seriously affect the ideals and feelings of many patriots, veterans and residents of St. Petersburg. Our history should also not turn into an object of disputes between economic entities over its further maintenance and support, "says Mikhail Prokhorov in his address.

    According to the oligarch, if a decision is made to exclude the cruiser from the Russian Navy, his Charity Fund is ready to provide the necessary funding for transferring the Aurora to the city’s balance sheet, “with the aim of preserving it, improving the material and technical base, more actively introducing modern museum technologies and increase its popularity and attendance. "

    Recall that On the night of June 5-6, the cruiser celebrated the birthday of Russian Pioneer magazine, owned by Prokhorov. About 150 guests were invited to the party, entertained by host Tina Kandelaki and musician Sergei Shnurov. The chief military prosecutor’s office of the Russian Federation concluded that the event was unlawful and ordered the Navy command to bring the perpetrators to disciplinary action. The Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, in turn, issued an order banning the conduct of events on ships "not related to the vital activity of the troops."

    Prokhorov himself then declared that he did not feel guilty for the party organized by him on the Aurora, since the cruiser had long lost its symbolism. Now, apparently, he changed his mind.
  • vjatsergey
    vjatsergey 4 May 2013 12: 57 New
    +2
    And I rarely turn on the TV, I can not turn it on for several days. When I turn it on, it’s mainly Country life, sports. The son does not watch TV at all. Young people now and no time to watch - work, study.
  • wulf66
    wulf66 4 May 2013 13: 12 New
    +3
    Article plus! I am not against jokes as such ... But mockery is also disgusting as such. This performance, (the word show, like English, has already filled the mark) I have nothing but a strong sense of disgust. Our youth is being pulled all the way to the fore, they are striving to move away from knowledge and impose an irresistible consumption, which can only be done with fools. But this abomination also earns loot and be modest and will not be ashamed. I am for censorship. Because it is against chatter and anarchy, which is disguised as shabby liberalism.
  • arnulla
    arnulla 4 May 2013 13: 40 New
    +2
    Yes, these klushi with gum don’t even know who Karbyshev is. They didn’t put such information in their heads with bird brains ... And with the word "creative" they simply cover their mediocrity, worthlessness, idleness, unwillingness and inability to create at least something useful, necessary and worthwhile.
  • Rus2012
    Rus2012 4 May 2013 13: 46 New
    +4
    Quote: shinobi
    Baba from the show most likely didn’t even understand what she had voiced. But the scribbler of the person who wrote the text should be brought to socially useful work for 15 days. To wash public toilets. And so with all the like. You look at television less


    Dossier - http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedy_Woman
    The author of the idea: Natalia Yeprikyan.
    Stage Director: Roman Novikov (starting from the 36-th issue; from the 1-th to the 35-th release - Dmitry Efimovich).
    Director of photography: Andrey Katorzhenko.
    Set Designer: Maria Turskaya.
    Costume designers: Yana Gail, Stella Zharsky.
    Lighting Designer: Egor Morozov.
    Composer: Vitaly Kudrin.
    Choreography: Catherine Barnabas.
    Installation director: Akim Kartashov (starting from the 36-th release; from the 1-th to the 35-th release - Roman Novikov).
    Assistant Director: Svetlana Asatryan.
    Sound engineers: Vitaly Kudrin, Alexander Idiatullin, Evgeny Kharitonov.
    Executive producer: Vladimir Sennikov.
    Creative producer: David Tsallaev.
    Producers: Natalia Yeprikyan, Vyacheslav Dusmukhametov, Semyon Slepakov, Anatoly Burnoso

    If Slepakov had a hand in the text, it’s a Jumbo jamb!

    About to write a public "Fiya!" I agree!
    Only thing is this, in this case it will not create any effect. Because any response for them - positive / abusive - increases the rating.
    I know only one case that led to hard organizational conclusions - mockery of patients with cystic fibrosis leading r / s "Mayak" - they all dispersed the topic closed. all because it smelled of real suits to r / s. And triple - a public outcry was created.
    Here are the claims - it’s effective!
    In our case, if the descendants of Karbyshev (schools and other institutions named after him) had competently executed and filed lawsuits in large numbers - the womans would have gone around the world!
    Well, the resonance ...
    To do this, you need to raise a topic in your blogs, forums!
  • bddrus
    bddrus 4 May 2013 13: 54 New
    +3
    incorrect comparison - but - as in the engine - "a good knock will always come out." So it has already come out - the degradation of us and you. Yes, not them, but you and me together. I don’t see any reason to say that I’m “white and fluffy” (and I won’t even grimace that “I don’t look zombie” - because we are the same in it) - so here everyone will say - separately for some reason everything is like that, that's just our society is degrading in terms of moral principles.
  • T-100
    T-100 4 May 2013 13: 54 New
    +1
    Something Vasi71 is not visible))))
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 4 May 2013 15: 51 New
      +5
      Quote: T-100
      Something Vasi71 is not visible))))

      Mabut URGENTLY changes NICK, Avatar and computer at the same time laughing
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  • ed65b
    ed65b 4 May 2013 15: 23 New
    +3
    Vasya 71 may himself understood that he was wrong, wrote without thinking, about TNT there are questions and complaints, welcome to their website and ... no problems. On May 9, I will drink for my grandfathers of my victims and commemorate the fallen at the memorial and sing my favorite song in full throat of Victory Day.
    Glory to the Fallen for the Independence of My country.
  • krokodil25
    krokodil25 4 May 2013 16: 24 New
    +5
    I advise you to watch the video in the topic!
  • lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 4 May 2013 16: 57 New
    0
  • cool.ya-nikola
    cool.ya-nikola 4 May 2013 16: 59 New
    +3
    Quote: wulf66
    Article plus! I am not against jokes per se ...

    As I understand it, the article that you can not mock the memory of fallen heroes! And all of a sudden around this, in my opinion, indisputable truth, some strange discussions and, moreover, Shakespearean passions began to unfold.

    Quote: zvereok
    Laughter is a positive emotion that prolongs life!

    Well, who would argue !? Does this mean that you can laugh at anything, and anywhere, even at a funeral?
    No way the ghost of General Karbyshev wintered with a cold winter ...

    The next masterpiece, one should have expected that either about Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya or about Gastello?
    Well, it’s impossible, it’s not customary to dance on the graves somehow, no matter how "positive emotions that prolong life", it did not cause!
    And, instead of discussing the article, it turned out that we analyzed the personality of the author, Valery (esaul), it turned out that he was not watching the channels either, and his personality was not entirely patriotic, and much more. We managed to learn a lot about the villain Mikhalkov. In the end, we witnessed the “battle of the titans,” or “the dismantling of the marshals,” the essence of which in my unenlightened view boiled down to “who writes higher on the wall.” Sad gentlemen! ...
    Quote: Egoza
    Maybe you can write a letter of indignation at such blasphemy on behalf of the entire VO site? I am sure everyone will subscribe, and send this letter to all newspapers.

    Ah, for this - with both hands FOR! ...
    1. wulf66
      wulf66 7 May 2013 12: 39 New
      0
      But this is already called pull out a piece of the phrase and turn everything inside out. The whole phrase: I am not against jokes as such ... But mockery is also disgusting as such. This performance, (the word show, like English, has already filled the mark) I have nothing but a strong sense of disgust.
      It is clear that I want to say something smart, but to do it at the expense of others ...
  • Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 4 May 2013 17: 37 New
    +3
    Greetings to all members of the forum!
    Let me express my thoughts too ...
    Our TV is the same powerful media, which by definition has always been and is controlled by the state.
    And it is not at all about specific channels and their programs. Look at the root.
    If we know what we are “fed” with, then top officials also know that, right?
    Hence the conclusion - it means it is beneficial to someone.
    To whom, the question is interesting, but even more interesting - why?
    1. krokodil25
      krokodil25 4 May 2013 17: 47 New
      +5
      Quote: Samsebenum
      oh, the question is interesting, but even more interesting - why?

      Maybe this text will clarify something

      The war will end, everything will somehow settle down, settle down. And we will give up everything that we have - all the gold, all the material power to fool and fool the Russians.
      The human brain, the minds of people are capable of change. Having sowed chaos, we quietly replace their values ​​with fake ones and make them believe in these fake values. How? We will find our like-minded people, our allies in Russia itself. Episode after episode will be played out with a grandiose scale tragedy of the death of the most rebellious people on earth, the final, irreversible fading of their self-consciousness. For example, we will gradually erase their social essence from literature and art, wean the artists, discourage them from engaging in image ... research, perhaps, of the processes that occur in the depths of the masses. Literature, theaters, cinema - everything will depict and glorify the most base human feelings. We will do our best to support and raise the so-called artists who will instill and hammer into the human mind the cult of sex, violence, sadism, betrayal - in a word, all immorality. In government, we will create chaos and confusion. We will imperceptibly, but actively and constantly promote tyranny of officials, bribe takers, unscrupulousness. Bureaucracy and red tape will be elevated to virtue. Honesty and decency will be ridiculed and will not be needed by anyone, will turn into a relic of the past. Rudeness and arrogance, lies and deceit, drunkenness and drug addiction, animal fear of each other and shamelessness, betrayal, nationalism and enmity of peoples, primarily enmity and hatred of the Russian people - we will all cultivate this cleverly and inconspicuously, it will blossom in a double color . And only a few, very few will guess or even understand what is happening. But we will put such people in a helpless position, turn them into a laughing stock, find a way to slander them and declare them to be the scum of society. We will dig up spiritual roots, vulgarize and destroy the foundations of popular morality. We will shatter thus, generation after generation. We will take on people from childhood, youth, we will always place the main emphasis on young people, we will begin to corrupt, corrupt, and corrupt it. We will make of them cynics, vulgarities, cosmopolitans.
      1. Samsebenaum
        Samsebenaum 4 May 2013 18: 21 New
        +4
        krokodil25

        Thanks, buddy!
        This is what I had in mind, but I wanted our people to think about it on their own.
        Although brain swapping is already visible ...
        1. krokodil25
          krokodil25 4 May 2013 19: 05 New
          +1
          Quote: Samsebenum
          Thanks, buddy!

          Yes there is nothing drinks
      2. Oleg Rosskiyy
        Oleg Rosskiyy 5 May 2013 01: 15 New
        0
        Russia urgently needs a new iron curtain and quarantine from these sewage pouring on us from the western garbage, but this must be done by our Russian people, in every family.
        1. Ribwort
          Ribwort 5 May 2013 10: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
          Russia urgently needs a new iron curtain and quarantine, from these sewage pouring on us from the western garbage

          I agree, but put a minus for the further statement:
          Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
          ... this must be done by our Russian people themselves, in every family.

          How do you imagine isolating the family from the corrupting influence of the media? Go to the taiga? Or total every minute control of children at home, on the street, at school? It's real? Do they lie ... It is much easier to restore censorship in the media and on TV that existed under the USSR. But our politicians, unfortunately, have a thin gut on this, for they act with an eye on what the West will say. And the position of the West is well known - traditional cries about the lack of publicity, freedom of speech and the violation of human rights.
          1. Oleg Rosskiyy
            Oleg Rosskiyy 5 May 2013 23: 59 New
            0
            It turns out that restoring censorship is not easy either, one thing is left to pay more attention to your children and to protect them from television and Internet chernukha, and to blame the upbringing of your children on the state, we will get new human semi-finished products, like the generation of the 90s. Everything is in our hands, the main thing is to overpower ourselves, and stick out less in front of the zombies, then the result may not be long in coming. The only question is whether we need it or not, I decided for myself that for me and mine children it is vital not to degrade in moral monsters.
    2. bddrus
      bddrus 4 May 2013 18: 47 New
      +3
      not my thoughts, but I agree with them:
      people gradually develop a "trust immunity"
      - Newspapers appeared, people began to confidently refer to them as a source of truth - after all, “they wrote in the newspaper” - gradually trust came to a minimum;
      - then the radio - likewise "on the radio said" - a powerful argument
      - then television - "on TV showed - saw it myself" - 100% true, but as time went on and especially "proud" and "discerning" call TV - "zomboyaschik"
      - the era of the Internet has come - in my opinion, the zombie is worse, but he is probably at the maximum of trust - just these two factors - the zombie + trust - have even brought the concept of “tweeter revolutions” (it seems about Egypt)
      About the Internet - I already extrapolated the statements of one expert on fooling
    3. Egoza
      Egoza 4 May 2013 20: 18 New
      0
      Quote: Samsebenum
      If we know what we are “fed” with, then top officials also know that, right?

      But to the first persons and send such a letter. I don’t know how you are doing with GDP, but with us all the first persons have started a Facebook page, and they really respond or take measures. Azarov, at least for sure. Well, maybe the president of the Russian Federation and do not want to send, but if in parallel with such letters to the first persons on facebook, but to the newspapers ... maybe it would be good. IMHO, of course
  • Dimy4
    Dimy4 4 May 2013 17: 47 New
    +1
    The author of the article “flipping through” channels came across one whose most programs are for people with a low level of education, whose vital interest is limited. People like those who performed on the stage, from those who call our country “rashka”, enjoy the performance of the little cookies and are perplexed for what they were punished for. By the way, it should be alarming that programs with a similar "cultural" content are available for each age category. I cut off the antenna at my place so that children would not accidentally watch cartoons on this channel.
    1. Samsebenaum
      Samsebenaum 4 May 2013 18: 29 New
      +4
      Dimy4
      I agree.
      But the programs should be developing, patriotic and interesting.
      A benchmark for base products gives rise to the same society.
      Therefore, all my complaints in this matter are only to the leadership of the country.
      1. Normal
        Normal 4 May 2013 22: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: Samsebenum
        Therefore, all my complaints in this matter are only to the leadership of the country.

        Greetings, Valery.
        I wonder who the author of the article claims? To the performers. It was they who perverted the will of the Radiant;
        "And the culprit is the general.
        Intriguer and immoral.
        This is it, the cow's face.
        Honor to the tsar. "
        And they are the fifth column and the swamp orangery.
        How competently we (well, not all of course) are led by the nose.
      2. Ribwort
        Ribwort 5 May 2013 10: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: Samsebenum
        Therefore, all my complaints in this matter are only to the leadership of the country.

        But this is true! +