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I came back from work, turned on the TV for the background, periodically “shoot” with the remote control and so do it, - I hit the “Comedy woman” - cooking that I always kept for a cheap hack that is not worthy of the very fact of existence. I sit, eat, look half-eyed ... And ...! Above all, I pleased at the time when these narcissists, who had lost the concept of morality, were playing around with their regular, obscene and vulgar scene, where one of them portrayed either a psychic, or a soothsayer. And all would be nothing - well, you explain to satisfy your own ugly self-conceit, find understanding with the same tact and conscience-free as you yourself are, and - figs with you ... But, after the words in this skit - “What is it some kind of chill terrible breath ...? No ghost of General Karbyshev with the winter blizzard ... "I was numb for a second and could only say to my wife -" But this is already an unforgivable disgusting! "



This bohemian trash, which has lost its boundaries, tact and conscience, the name of the person who gave his life and accepted a martyr's death so that all subsequent generations of Soviet people live, mentioned in such a mocking, juggling sense and only for the sole purpose - to laugh from souls! There is not a hint about any feeling of compassion, nor about any attempts to realize the sufferings and torments that this man accepted.

In the conclusion of this whole farce, their fussy bald clown exclaimed: “You were at the Comedy Vumen - a place where it is pleasant to be, but it is not a shame to remember!”. So nothing before this bald one, with vulgar lustful eyes, didn’t come to it ... So, with his creative thinking, he didn’t understand what they were doing - SHAME!

After that, my wife and I started a conversation on the topic that there are things, names, moral standards and examples that are strictly forbidden to touch with dirty paws. This is especially true of the names of those who gave their lives in the name of fulfilling their moral, civic and military duty, in the name of a better life of subsequent generations, in the name of us living with dignity, caring for our children, elderly parents, with the participation of in the eyes and empathetic to someone else's trouble.

Everything that happened shook the soul and prompted to speak in the "VO".

And here - I open the "Military Review" and in the thread that opinions have appeared about the expediency of holding the Victory Day Parade, I see "revelations" of the same as these girls from the box and devoid of conscience, a creative person like this Dima from Comedy Wumen "- Vasily 71! And after all, mind you, such opinions have appeared right now, when both the country's leadership and all normal and not indifferent people are in search of those historical milestones that could serve as moral beacons for the country's younger generation. That is, there are ongoing attempts to knock the moral support from under our feet and deprive us of sovereign pride, leveling the glorious achievements and victories of our people and country!

And how nice it was to see, in response to the bleating of this forum-inspired creative, the outrage and monolithic condemnation of his pathetic comments and his “reasoned” dodges! To the credit of the members of the forum - no one allowed himself obscene attacks in the direction of this user, but "unleash" him - notably! And what beautiful words sounded on the site ...!

Gari
Quote: domokl
This is our Victory, this is my Victory, this is the Victory of my children and all those who left their loved ones on the fields of war ...

Dear, I, too, is not Russian, but not as infuriated as yours, this scum has no nationality, subhuman

My two grandfathers Armenians from Georgia, fought, one returned in fragments from Stalingrad, the other came as Berlin’s marines

It was the Victory of our Grandfathers, our Fathers, now Our Victory will be the Victory of our children!

Because I am the Great Victory!


And what kind of example of incredible generosity did Nina (Tverichanka) tell us

I will add my story about Russians and enemies.

My uncle went missing in September 41-th near Kiev. He was just 22 of the year. Grandma hoped all his life that he was alive. If not a funeral, then maybe he was wounded, he lost his memory, and so on. That is, I believed that my son survived and lives somewhere ... And in 42, they were under occupation. The combat units of the Germans were gone, and in the village they had some kind of quartermaster unit. Winter was frosty. So the women gave warm clothes to the German soldiers, because they did not have a winter uniform. And when I asked my grandmother: "How is that? They are fascists, enemies!" The grandmother answered: "Well, do they have no mother? She thinks you don’t feel sorry for your son? Or maybe someone will give or cover up my Fedya!" It was not very clear to me then. And now, I think, this is what kind of soul our grandmothers were, if even in such circumstances they were able to separate evil and good, hatred and compassion. Here they are Russian women !!! And they can break into shreds and immediately regret !!!


I am extremely pleased to be in the community of you all, dear colleagues and I (without pathos) - I am proud that such thoughts and words sound here!

And I would like to say a few words to the address of the above-mentioned user Vasya 71, which is justly correct. If you don’t know something from the history of the country in which you live, or you don’t understand something, if you are completely deprived of pride in your country, then don’t try to dirty yourself with tar, in which you’ve gotten yourself, others. Read more books on the history of Russia, maybe you will understand something about moral values ​​and expediency. But it seems that all this is not yours. Yours are stories about the decisive role of states in the Great Patriotic War and about Land Lease as the "decisive and crucial factor in the war."

And the pride for the Victory of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War - for OUR VICTORY - is not yours. And if not yours, then - do not touch!
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  1. +70
    4 May 2013 06: 21
    There is such a word, at one time obscured by all sorts of liberals and crap - censorship is called. Let there be less creativity, but there will be no vulgarity or nausea either
    1. +26
      4 May 2013 06: 37
      In my understanding, there is censorship, this is when there is no swearing and frank scenes of violence, but when everyone is clapping and the authorities are licking their ass. Sometimes this is collectively called censorship, but in that case I definitely won’t turn on the TV.
      1. +21
        4 May 2013 06: 58
        More important is who the censor is. And then take such a bald censor - so in the program the time to swear will begin without fail
        1. +29
          4 May 2013 07: 57
          Find out the name of the creator who invented this number. The enemy must be known in person. But Medvedev for such a joke - shame and shame. Although she will be worried about it.
          1. ughhh
            +12
            4 May 2013 14: 03
            Fu, people, how do you look at this bastard? Distorts already. And finally, throw out the TV your unfortunate, suffered, I guess.
            1. +6
              4 May 2013 14: 30
              Yes, no one is watching. On the Internet, I wondered whose joke it was. YES and who has not seen (even briefly) this program before.
              1. +17
                4 May 2013 20: 02
                I have not seen. And not only this program, but many others. For example, the notorious House-2. And 99% of films I do not watch ... Agree, it is not necessary to touch the poop with your hands to make sure that this is not necessary. In general, TV began to occupy a disproportionately large place in people's lives, to the detriment of reading. And then we begin to complain that children do not know something. And they, too, looking at adults, stare at the screen. It's easier. Don't think. Yes. and there are a lot of buckoffs in the books.
                1. +5
                  5 May 2013 14: 24
                  I would say that the computer is more harmful to children now than the TV. And everyone has a TV at home, and switching channels involuntarily stumbles upon "poop", as you put it.
            2. +15
              4 May 2013 15: 44
              Quote: ughhh
              And finally, throw out your unfortunate TV, I have suffered, I guess.

              Lord comrades!
              You don't have to be like an ostrich even in the information "sand" - in love and the "feed" sticks out outside, and you will smell the creeping "liberals" too "late" laughing
              Watch, listen, read, keep abreast of current events. And to draw certain conclusions from what he saw, heard and read - or a head only for a hat and a "mouthpiece"?
              hi
              1. ughhh
                +11
                4 May 2013 16: 30
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Watch, listen, read, keep abreast of current events.

                If I need news, I surf the Internet for my favorite news sites.
                If you need a background for some activity, I turn on my favorite music (from the Internet, yeah).
                Any movies without ads? Even downloading is no longer necessary; read about torrent stream (I use TS player myself).
                Any cable, satellite channels? It has long been broadcast over the Internet, you don’t even have to pay.
                Even these vile laughable programs, absolutely any series can be instantly found and watched. Without advertising, I note.

                There is too much information, and there is too little time to see, read. To haul everything that is served in our time - fire. Only happy people who really have nothing to do can afford this. It’s better to read Pushkin’s poems, they are delicious.
              2. +2
                4 May 2013 22: 09
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Watch, listen, read, keep abreast of current events. And to draw certain conclusions from what he saw, heard and read - or a head only for a hat and a "mouthpiece"?

                Welcome hi I would very much like these words to be heeded, otherwise we can come to a demonstration on TV "Swan Lake" and ... That's it!
                I want to preface the exclamations at once on the theme in the spirit that ballet is our pride. Pride ... and - well-deserved ... But, after all the variety of TV food, try to sit on "dry" rations. I assure you that you will be satisfied for a very short time.
                1. +4
                  4 May 2013 22: 13
                  Quote: esaul
                  I assure you - you will be satisfied for a very short time.

                  hi
            3. +3
              4 May 2013 18: 49
              How to throw it away? And hockey, football, volleyball ... yes biathlon in the end)))
              1. ughhh
                0
                5 May 2013 10: 15
                on the Internet you can find either a live broadcast of the event itself, or an online broadcast of a tv channel
                1. 0
                  7 May 2013 09: 33
                  Well, on the Internet you can find a lot of things ... and how the Internet as a whole differs from a zombie creator))) I’m the same ... how to bask only in profile, and after a while it will be generally one.
            4. +2
              5 May 2013 16: 47
              I only learned here about this meanness to the memory of our heroes. This is from the same story; we did not send you to Afghanistan. Pigs must be punished unambiguously.
            5. Containers
              0
              6 May 2013 01: 45
              Why throw out the TV? I’m watching sports channels. Kitchen TV - it didn’t practically switch at all (well, until all sorts of quizzes appeared there). Well, I’m also watching all kinds of films on it bully
              You just need to understand what you can watch and what is not worth it.
          2. bezumnyiPIT
            0
            7 May 2013 14: 57
            Quote: Alexander Petrovich
            Although she will be worried about it.

            Like regular viewers of this booth
        2. +8
          4 May 2013 08: 00
          It’s also true, but Mikhalkov in the role of censor is not at all better, and perhaps even worse than Khrustalev will be.
          1. -3
            4 May 2013 08: 24
            Quote: zvereok
            It’s also true, but Mikhalkov in the role of censor is not at all better, and perhaps even worse than Khrustalev will be.

            And then Mikhalkov? Where above it was discussed? Or so - butting, so that they know they say how much I hate him ??????
            You do not like his directorial creations, well, okay ...
            Many people do not like much what Oscars, Nicky, etc. give.
            But there are those who perceive something that others do not like for various reasons, quite differently ... Why talk about it anyway?
            It already sounds like cheap trolling to popular names.
            Moreover, to put Mikhalkov in a row with a specific civic position and a homosexual clown - Khrustalev ... what, about whom it is better not to joke ...
            By the way, I like Comedy more than Petrosyan’s gang ...

            Moreover, let’s not forget that Mikhalkov takes his post for a reason and it’s not you and us who have invited you to choose him there ... But he still represents the face of the Russian cinema community.
            Do not you think that expressing your subjective opinion in this way, you spit in the face and those filmmakers who chose their counselor, without asking you thought that he was worthy to be the Chairman?

            Question: - Why, contrary to your opinion, did they think so?

            In my youth there was a simple question to the person "Oh": - if you say that everyone around is pi ... sy, then who are you?

            I’ll make a reservation right away that I don’t want to personally blame you for anything and engage in a skirmish, I’m just fed up with this NTV promotion racket about Mikhalkov, Gundyaev, Putin, etc. - who at least does something positive and in its rightful place.
            It is worth believing that nevertheless some state are behind them. organizations that are not at all indifferent to the people of Russia.

            Sorry if it turned out abruptly ...
            Good luck, colleague.
            1. +7
              4 May 2013 09: 45
              Under Mikhalkov, our culture degraded to Khrustalev, and Mr. Mikhalkov will leave his post only with his feet forward.

              Khrustalev and the show with him rests on popularity.

              Mikhalkov, on the other hand, is based on old ties and the fact that he is in power. I like old Mikhalkov films, but I don’t like the last ones.

              I understand that the last Oscar Mikhalkov received for Burnt by the Sun?

              By the way, are you sure that Mikhalkov isn’t? I’m not sure, therefore, I’m not arguing.

              By the way, what's wrong with being a clown? And make people laugh?

              Laughter is a positive emotion that prolongs life!
              1. +3
                4 May 2013 11: 05
                Quote: zvereok
                Under Mikhalkov, our culture degraded to Khrustalev, and Mr. Mikhalkov will leave his post only with his feet forward.


                Yes, at least get caught ...
                What is Mikhalkov's fault in this? Maybe in the fact that to whom it was necessary to offer his sperm, for the birth of a division of small Mikhalkov ...
                So you can say that it was specifically with you / me that your enterprise or trust in which you / I worked silently as a mouse at the time of perestroika collapsed ... But there would have been another instead of you / me, so look Lenin 2.0 or Stalin 2.0 would have been ...
                Accusing Mikhalkov of being a mouse is stupid, to the point of dumbness ...
                Quote: zvereok
                By the way, are you sure that Mikhalkov isn’t? I’m not sure, therefore, I’m not arguing.

                And let him sit in a basin of water ... Anyone who doubts, let him blow the "tune" ... If the bubbles go into the basin - well, it means your truth ...
                Quote: zvereok
                By the way, what's wrong with being a clown? And make people laugh?

                What is wrong with me being a clown ?! Yes, you don’t take much on yourself, my friend? !!!!
                For me it’s not bad at all, if not only it seemed to me that you are a clown!
                Quote: zvereok
                Laughter is a positive emotion that prolongs life!

                Laughing for no reason is a sign of fooling around! - so my grandmother said ...
                And personally, I think that a fool to live for a long time is harmful to others ...

                P.S. There, right immediately below the page to whom it is inaudible and about tolerance - very clearly ...
                P.P.S. Censorship is not a Russian word at all, therefore it is quoted by the elite, whose people almost also call it conscience, which in turn is based on shame.
                1. +4
                  4 May 2013 11: 24
                  Quote: Tartary
                  What is wrong with me being a clown ?! Yes, you don’t take much on yourself, my friend? !!!!


                  Why did you try on my statement on yourself? I'll try to formulate it differently - What is bad in the profession of a clown or a comedian?

                  Yuri Vladimirovich Nikulin is a clown, and did an excellent job as the administrator of the Circus on Tsvetnoy. He gave interesting presentations and did not engage in donation at all.

                  But Nikita Sergeevich, could not. And he doesn’t want to leave.

                  I apologize if I offended you, Or Mr. Mikhalkova, but of course I do not intend to change my opinion yet.

                  Today, by the way, I saw an advertisement-trailer for the film "Stalingrad" on YouTube. Glad if they make a good movie. And I've been waiting for a long time for a new "It's hard to be a god."

                  We'll see?
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCQvkQT0ves
                  1. -5
                    4 May 2013 13: 32
                    Quote: zvereok
                    Why did you try on my statement on yourself? I'll try to formulate it differently - What is bad in the profession of a clown or a comedian?

                    What is a comedian?
                    A. Raikin was a brilliant conversational genre artist. Is it a comedian?
                    Khazanov was also not a miss, but a faint likeness of the right ...
                    Oleg Popov Ball is a recognized circus clown. There were followers no worse ...
                    Comedy Club is much more interesting than the late Petrosyan, but the young Petrosyan was a little weaker than Raikin - competition, however ...
                    Today the best in the genre of humor is V. Dobronravov. IMHO
                    Bottom line: - a clown to a clown, and a comedian to a comedian - discord, if there is little tension ...
                    Quote: zvereok
                    Yuri Vladimirovich Nikulin is a clown, and did an excellent job as the administrator of the Circus on Tsvetnoy. He gave interesting presentations and did not engage in donation at all.

                    Yuri Nikulin was one of the few artists who really fought in the Second World War ... What can I talk about? Why such a good example?

                    Quote: zvereok
                    But Nikita Sergeevich, could not. And he doesn’t want to leave.


                    Could not what? And where, and why go? Who wants it or asks? I AM? You? Who! Maybe people?
                    Nooooo! The people do not ask for this and do not want to - that’s for sure ... \\\\ Masons (I understand who I mean and not necessarily Jews) who put sticks into the wheels of everything that is not in theirs in Russia? This is most likely ...
                    Quote: zvereok
                    I apologize if I offended you, Or Mr. Mikhalkova, but of course I do not intend to change my opinion yet.

                    What matters? No ceremonies, but no need to change anything - it will come.

                    The main thing is that Mikhalkov is a specific Russophile, this is our Russian and Russian-imperial person to the marrow of our bones, who will not betray and 30 silver coins will not pull on the sly.
                    Therefore, his work - by itself, and this is the work of the artist, if not you say ...
                    But his civic position is a separate, albeit indivisible theme with his work ... Paradox? Not. Simply, if it weren’t about Russia, then everything would be simple - talent / peasantry / success, and then quiet old age and poh. what is there in the world and country ...
                    Today is the youngest daughter's birthday - 10 years old, therefore, honestly, not to the depth of my thoughts now on this topic ... I hope it is clear why? drinks Plus I write, almost "on the knee" ... request
                    Good luck.
                    1. +12
                      4 May 2013 21: 06
                      Tartary
                      I apologize for the intrusion into the dialogue. Yesterday I specially watched (For the first time) "Burnt by the Sun-2". And once again I was convinced that the reviews of the films that were released on the VO forum users are mostly fair and correct. I don't think I wasted time in vain, otherwise, like you, I was looking for an excuse for the artist who stumbled. Now I know for sure that after this creation, Mikhalkov died for me as a director. This is not an offense, but a betrayal in relation to all veterans of our country. And it's a pity that you personally did not understand this. One person wrote a short but capacious review of this film.

                      ... Do not classify Mikhalkov as great. Uncle Styopa's son only expends the people's money for his expensive projects, they don't throw him rotten tomatoes a little, but he pretends to be a great cinematographer, but such masterpieces as "Blockade", "Liberation", "They fought for the Motherland", etc. ... he can't handle it - that's why it turns out so tired ...


                      And I completely agree with him!
                    2. +2
                      4 May 2013 22: 14
                      Quote: Tartary
                      Today is the youngest daughter's birthday - 10

                      Hi man hi and - congratulations love !
                      You say everything right. Very many continue to think either by a given pattern or by inertia. It's a pity... drinks
                      1. +2
                        4 May 2013 22: 54
                        Greetings Valery! An excellent article and the civic position of a person who is not indifferent to the abomination pouring from our screens every day !! Everything is written correctly. even in the thoughts of letting go of their vulgar and dirty jokes in the direction of our veterans! Keep it up, and Happy Easter and the coming day of the Great Victory of the Russian people in the Second World War !!! hi drinks
                2. +4
                  4 May 2013 11: 40
                  It seems to me that when fasting here about justice and against the tolerant liberal elite, I am adequately obliged to understand what-is-what-and-hoo-hoo ...
                  The very Svanidze, with his statements, puts those who disagree with him under the concept of censorship - his censorship ... If he suddenly gets power, then believe me, he will do everything so as not to lose it ... EVERYTHING !!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
                  Gozman ... Need to be explained? I think that those who have seen at least one of his live shows understand me ...
                  Tomorrow give such a real power -! all! Everything will be in the empire, as in the Echo of Moscow ...
                  It’s just that the young reformers of the 90s miscalculated ... They hoped that the hawking people would continue to harass liberal values ​​- hell was there ... Miscalculated - the train started off before they had time to replenish the kettles with boiling water - now they are trying to catch up, but this is hardly .. .

                  It disgusts me that a sane, sober-minded Mikhalkov suddenly found himself with the "light" hand of all kinds of NTV and others, on a par with all sorts of liberal and not only losers!
                  What doesn't anyone like about him? His "failure" (subjective assessment by everyone) in the last (last) films? What is that?
                  In addition to him, they shot the fuck of shit and other fashionable ...
                  Why is it that someone's Turkish saber selectively cuts ?????
                  According to the old, experienced, with roots and concepts?
                  Or maybe someone just really doesn’t like his Russianness, his personal position and assessment of the situation in Russia?
                  One or two -> damn
                  Cum, guys, do garbage! Stop dancing to other people's music.

                  P.S. It is important for me that at least half of the minus, it became clear what I mean ...
                  1. +3
                    4 May 2013 12: 00
                    Firstly, I do not like the tax on information media that I pay when I buy a media, a USB flash drive, a player or a disk with information.

                    I do not like what this CPD tax distributes. 15% of this tax goes to the needs of the union itself and it is Mikhalkov who heads this Union.

                    Again, the RSP decides to whom to give the remaining interest, and it must be assumed that only in this organization there have never been kickbacks and corruption. Because RSP is the conscience of the nation.

                    The whole situation is very reminiscent of how some time ago Aeroflot, a privately owned company, received royalties for trans-Siberian flights.
                    1. 0
                      4 May 2013 12: 55
                      Quote: zvereok
                      First of all, I don’t like the tax on information media that I pay when I buy a media, a USB flash drive, a player or a disk with information. I don’t like what this CPD tax distributes. 15% of this tax goes to the needs of the union itself and it is Mikhalkov who heads this union.

                      Dear you are our "deluded" person.
                      VAT from the Federal Tax Service Destroys the economy and causes quite tangible harm to us, you, all Russians. And the information carriers listed by you can easily not pay this "bribe", it is only necessary to establish a full production cycle in Russia. And by the way, these very "mezdnye kopecks" are partially used for making domestic films.
                      Quote: zvereok
                      Aeroflot, a privately owned company, received royalties for trans-Siberian flights.

                      Another pearl ..
                      You are for Lufthansa, British Sharveys, American airways and other Olways so worried as if you made all payments from your wallet. wink

                      ps / Relax in nature, prepare beds for berries, cook barbecue, and rejoice with loved ones for the SUN-AIR-SKY-HEAT.
                      1. +4
                        4 May 2013 13: 31
                        Quote: Papakiko
                        You are for Lufthansa, British Sharveys, American airways and other Olways so worried as if you made all payments from your wallet.


                        I worry that all payments went past the budget, that this action was revealed, with the filing of foreign bodies, and not our Accounts Chamber. And that even after the autopsy, no one was punished and the money did not return to the budget.

                        "And the media you listed can easily not pay this" bribe ", you just need to establish a full production cycle in Russia.

                        They just took it, got into my pocket and handed over my money to Mikhalkov.
                      2. 0
                        6 May 2013 10: 09
                        Quote: zvereok
                        They just took it, got into my pocket and handed over my money to Mikhalkov

                        In your (our) pockets, whoever does not "graze", and you are "offended" at Mikhalkov. Deal with housing and communal services, fuel and energy complex, and only after that you think this "prank" and completely forgive and forget.
                3. pavlo
                  +1
                  4 May 2013 19: 40
                  He told all about himself with his films about the war!
              2. ed65b
                +2
                4 May 2013 15: 12
                Mikhalkov "chamber" director of his film about the jury is 2 heads taller than the tired.
                1. 0
                  4 May 2013 21: 32
                  Quote: ed65b
                  Mikhalkov "chamber" director of his film about the jury is 2 heads taller than the tired.

                  Great movie, there is no reason to argue.
              3. +2
                4 May 2013 21: 23
                Quote: zvereok
                By the way, are you sure that Mikhalkov isn’t? I’m not sure, therefore, I’m not arguing.

                Listen to the "animal" that this topic worries you so much, it is not surprising, by the tone and degree of hatred towards Mikhalkov it is clear that you yourself are very close to the circles you have mentioned. Only after all, Mikhalkov is not in charge of television and is not yet the Minister of Culture, but when God willing, then all pediration and other peeling like you will end.
          2. SASCHAmIXEEW
            +4
            4 May 2013 14: 41
            While the media and TV are in the hands of our enemies of the railway Zionists, no one will censor vulgarity and anti-patriotism !!! It's time to ask with the guarantor !! To stake !!! HEY..censors from the FSB, bring to starshov that it’s time to bring the media and TV to feelings !!!! Not good! GA ..nom feed the people !!! Got fed !!!
        3. +5
          4 May 2013 10: 45
          Here the Emperor had censors ... Fyodor Tyutchev, for example. "The mind cannot understand Russia ..."
          Any business can be screwed up. Or make it so that the flowers bloomed on the stone. Everything is in the hands of the doer.
      2. 0
        4 May 2013 11: 24
        Since we are talking about censorship, it’s worth discussing what and how this censorship should limit. There are norms of law and norms of morality. Everything is clear with the norms of the law - they are spelled out in the relevant documents, and censors in this direction are also determined by law.
        But with the norms of morality and morality, alas, not everything is so clear. For centuries, the ROC has been the bearer of these norms in Russia, all of its parishioners. Hierarchs and ministers violating the written (in Scripture) and unwritten norms of morality were absent. With the advent of the Bolshevik sect (alas, social movements fighting the religious movements are called sects), the existence of Orthodoxy and its moral standards was put on the brink of survival. No need to talk about the similarity of the moral ideals of the Communists and Christianity. The main and fatal difference is the attitude towards God. Whoever says anything, but if there is no room for God in the soul, then there is no Conscience. Conscience is a part of the creator in our souls, and if it is present, then no censorship is necessary. Where is the guarantee that, under the pretext of purification, at the helm of censorship, entities like those that have already been and will not arise. Censorship existed and still exists - everyone knows about it. Only here it filters in a peculiar way, pleasing the powers that be and the unclean.
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          0
          4 May 2013 14: 54
          1000000000 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++ !!!!!!
      3. +11
        4 May 2013 18: 50
        This program goes on the TNT channel, and there the Comedy Club ball, a gathering of anti-Russian creatives, rules. Bulldogs, Martirosyans, Chestnuts, Snowballs and other types rule the ball there. And who sits in the hall and watches, laughing at obscene, stupid and obscene jokes? The same creatives. The very ones who prevent Victory Day from traveling around Moscow, who are abhorrent to everything Russian, they laugh at us, joke (a word from their vocabulary). The only thing we can do is forget about the button on the remote control with the TNT channel. A kind of boycott of the channel, which allows them to joke about the heroes of the war. With their programs, they make young people as stupid, impudent as the characters in their releases. It’s not that censorship is letting in on TV screens, or that.
        1. +4
          4 May 2013 19: 51
          Quote: starshina78
          what we can do is forget about the button on the remote with the TNT channel

          We can. But the main thing is to explain to the youth why they sent this channel to ignore, to explain what it makes of them, young, stupid ruminants who have forgotten about the honor and dignity of their ancestors. Alas! It is not only young ...
          In Murmansk, veterans on the eve of May 9 received letters from the memorial company.
          The daughter of a war veteran said that her mother became ill after such a letter. It contained a message that the company was burying veterans at the expense of the state. Figures were also written that explained how much money was allocated for the burial of each veteran.
          The director of the Murmansk branch of the military memorial company said that they did not want to upset the veterans, but tried to inform them.
          Source: TV 21
          http://polemika.com.ua/news-116810.html#title
          Is this not a mockery of the elderly on the eve of the holiday? !!!!
          1. +1
            4 May 2013 22: 38
            I myself was shocked by this news. Let it not be good to wish, but still I wish this director to receive a similar "price list" in his old age.
          2. stroporez
            0
            6 May 2013 15: 29
            PPC ......... and no one will take this geek for piers ...........
        2. +1
          4 May 2013 20: 27
          Quote: starshina78
          . Something censorship skips on TV screens, or something.

          And yet, as you rightly noted, the button is in our hands. That means, whether or not including some muck, we make the choice ourselves. Here and let's make the right choice. Moreover, at the current level of communication, options the sea is poured. There are so many books on the Internet that life isn’t enough to re-read. In my opinion, the best way is to take your time and your mind.
      4. +2
        4 May 2013 20: 37
        Quote: zvereok
        In my understanding, there is censorship, this is when there is no swearing and explicit scenes of violence,

        What is censorship?
        After all, this is the policy of broadcasting, this is what our children are learning from. Look at what has been going on the ZOMBIERS for the past 20 years. What a whole generation has grown up on.
        What can be surprised when a prirodok in uniform walks and shoots people in a store !!! When buses bombard from pneumatics, aircraft crews are blinded!
        This is the result ...........
    2. +7
      4 May 2013 08: 24
      Quote: FC Skif
      There is such a word, at one time obscured by all sorts of liberals and crap - censorship is called.
      Maxim, censorship, censorship, strife ... Everyone has the right to their opinion and if this opinion is alien to me, I argue, curse, if you like ...
      Valery in his article spoke about some pigs on our site. But they (the same Vasily) competently bent their line, without violating the rules of the site. My opinion is also not popular with everyone, but without violating the rules I am not judged fellow
    3. +14
      4 May 2013 09: 21
      Quote: FC Skif
      There is such a word, at one time obscured by all sorts of liberals and crap - censorship is called.

      Dear colleague, yes, in the same liberation there is censorship, it is simply called in other words - "political correctness".
      From the wiki:
      Political correctness (also political correctness; from the English. Politically correct - “corresponding to the established rules”) - the practice of direct or indirect prohibition of the use of words and phrases ...

      And try to scold the Negro from them ... Or the country's policy regarding certain events - guantanomo is ensured. And these are just words ...

      And about General Karbyshev Dmitry Mikhailovich ...
      I bet that current school graduates do not know such a person ... But they know another general - Vlasov ...
      Quite simply, our homegrown "enlightened liberals" excluded one general and included another in the school curriculum ...
      Until we cleanse the "agiyev stables" from the shit - so it will be ...
      Media censorship should be!
      And this function may well be performed by healthy social forces ...
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    5. +12
      4 May 2013 10: 32
      It is time to begin to pour sewage to where they can overthrow, and not stink in our souls.
      1. stroporez
        0
        6 May 2013 15: 35
        from it is right !!!!!!!! the go-depository is at the top, from there and nada to begin sanitation ....
    6. Heccrbq
      +8
      4 May 2013 10: 56
      What censorship, this canal, together with all the cheapness and stupidity that is going on on it, belongs to Gazprom (Gazprom is a national treasure fellow ), but Gazprom belongs to whom? But comments
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        +2
        4 May 2013 15: 08
        Gazprom only on TV screen, national treasure! And so, the shares were initially divided between the "those in power"! If the national property, distribute to the people by the piece! Ghouls are, ghouls !!!! No conscience, no honor !!!
    7. dc120mm
      +8
      4 May 2013 11: 18
      Quote: FC Skif
      censorship is called

      Censorship is indispensable, we are also shown all sorts of x - that.
    8. +1
      5 May 2013 05: 23
      it’s not so much censorship as the lack of ideology and upbringing of the younger generation, because all these miserable victims of perestroika are creative from the Blue Screens, these deprived people have nothing sacred, and we will reap the fruits of perestroika for a long time ...
    9. SSR
      0
      5 May 2013 22: 09
      Quote: FC Skif
      Let there be less creativity, but there will be no vulgarity or nausea either

      and Galtsev? some grimaces chmafki, bunches, all the jokes below the plinth, but how the "chief executive" who is hard to prove .. or like a drawbar is gritting. how I turned it and it happened ...
      I told my own for a long time ... TNT, STS, etc. I’ll see .. I’ll chop off the whole movie ...
  2. pinecone
    +22
    4 May 2013 06: 24
    Mention General Karbysheva next to all this bastard should not be.
    1. +8
      4 May 2013 06: 55
      It infuriates me more when Dmitry Medvedev shakes hands with Andrus Ansip.
      1. +7
        4 May 2013 07: 50
        How not to reap that? These are ordinary players of one team.
      2. +9
        4 May 2013 09: 58
        There is such a thing as a diplomatic protocol. Russia and Estonia are not at war. For this reason, the leaders of the countries have to smile sweetly at each other and shake hands, regardless of personal preferences and political preferences.
        1. 0
          4 May 2013 10: 37
          Finances are being built after the "Cypriot tragedy".
      3. +4
        4 May 2013 19: 08
        but as we bend them now in hockey. 6-0 we are leading. And it doesn’t matter Estonians / Latvians.
        they are some sweet, Romanians in one word
    2. +23
      4 May 2013 08: 24
      Quote: pinecone
      Mention General Karbysheva next to all this bastard should not be.

      I fully support! And I want to ask. Maybe you can make a letter about the indignation of such blasphemy on behalf of the entire VO website? I'm sure everyone will subscribe, and send this letter to all the newspapers. (In court, probably not) Well, at least in the media! As for Urgant, who also “blurted out” how much noise there was. So here it is necessary, because it is exactly KOSHUNSTVO! And make these forks publicly apologize.
      1. +13
        4 May 2013 08: 52
        Quote: Egoza
        Maybe you can write a letter of indignation at such sacrilege on behalf of the entire VO site? I’m sure everyone will subscribe, and send this letter to all newspapers
        The offer is sensible, I support!
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          +2
          4 May 2013 15: 18
          100% support !!
      2. luka095
        +3
        4 May 2013 14: 04
        Indeed, if this can be done, then it should be done.
      3. SASCHAmIXEEW
        0
        4 May 2013 15: 17
        I wonder how the Duma will react to this passage in Comedy Wumen !!!
        1. +2
          4 May 2013 15: 19
          don’t hope. gave the link below. if such characters are sitting there, what to expect?
    3. +7
      4 May 2013 08: 35
      Quote: pinecone
      Mention General Karbysheva next to all this bastard should not be.
      But what if, if I may say so, the artists are already talking this name right? Yesaul has sharpened the question ... You need to immediately notice and not forgive
    4. +15
      4 May 2013 10: 23
      Quote: pinecone
      Mention General Karbysheva next to all this bastard should not be.

      Yeah. I just want to add that in addition to the martyrdom accepted for their homeland, there was such a bright and heroic life that rare people had such a life. It was the Russo-Japanese War, and participation in the Brusilovsky breakthrough, and ensuring the breakthrough of the Mannerheim line, and the construction of the bastions of the Brest Fortress, in addition, a lot of scientific work, thousands of students, however you can’t list them all. And these creatures with their dirty tongues tremble the name of this Great and Bright Man.
      1. ttttt
        +11
        4 May 2013 11: 17
        Because this scum and hits the best of the best. By the way, I looked at the photo for the article. Not a single normal Russian face. Some mutants and geeks. You can call me anti-Semite. You can’t let it go. Urgant in Ukraine was not let down by an even more abstract expression. And here specifically, the Hero of War ...
        Yes, for such as garlands on lampposts, this pad_l must be hung. Write an appeal to the president.
        You can’t just leave it like that. Close the fuck this blya_stvo!
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          +4
          4 May 2013 15: 26
          It is necessary to introduce corporal punishment into the Criminal Code, we are "Asia" and do not look to the west, they are on their own, but we are ourselves !!! And such "womans" to tear at naked F ... ne! So that others are not familiar !!! No need to hang up, let the warrior guys give birth !!!
          1. +1
            4 May 2013 20: 36
            Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
            Well ... ne! So that others are not disagreeable !!! No need to hang, let the warrior guys give birth!

            Oranges will not be born from aspen. I’m thin of grass off the field! ... And after the run, do you think, and mothers and fathers are proud of them? Most likely yes! So draw conclusions who and how raised them, on what values ​​... They didn’t come from Mars.
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              0
              10 May 2013 16: 11
              I think there are not many such people across the country, although a lot of things have changed over the past 20 years ...
        2. Torang
          +4
          4 May 2013 15: 29
          Quote: tttttt
          Yes, for such as garlands on lampposts, this pad_l must be hung.
          yes, everything goes to this ... The West mistakenly perceives the calmness and seemingly submissiveness of the Russians, mistaking patience for weakness, thinking that an irreversible process of reforming Russian consciousness under liberal "values" is underway ... But patience, as usual, will end and " wind of history "and further in the text ... A couple of generations dirtied the brain, but it already happened. This trash is one-time, and there will be no memory of it. In any case, I hope so.
  3. Vladomir
    +15
    4 May 2013 06: 29
    Like the Nazis, the land in Russia was burning under their feet, so it should burn with their ideological followers, shit-democrats and liberals.
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    1. +16
      4 May 2013 07: 25
      Hi Sasha.
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      So Valera, you being not even serving
      Sasha, where does this information come from? Or is it based on your conjectures, made due to the lack of my stories about the heroic past? Funny you guys - then you understand yesterday's conversation of Apollo, who yesterday stubbornly pressed the provocative button, trying to convince me that I "insulted the veteran." I tried as best I could to explain (exactly - to explain, and not to justify! There is nothing to justify!) To Apollo that he is mistaken, but - I cannot put my brains into his cranium. And Apollo, apparently, wanted to "stand up as a mountain" cheaply. As I see, it turned out.
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      pouring mud on Air Force VAF-Colonel Sergei.

      Take the trouble, come back and find my "muddying" Mr. WAF. Then we'll talk. Just grab the statements and your client, who tirelessly lets the darling in his posts.
      I feel - you are trying to move all the discussions into the squabbling plane familiar to you.
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Shamelessly and shamelessly

      Guys, do not you talk about such moral categories! One has only to hurt your sick callus about conspiracy in PM to organize obstruction of the objectionable, so you rise - as the last and decisive battle. Your efforts, but in a constructive direction - you would not have a price.
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      on the eve of May 9

      That's it ... This is your comment, just a testament to the fact that it is more important for you to clarify the relationship, despite the fact that such a significant holiday is approaching.
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Your patriotism causes great doubts

      And your "patriotism", which manifests itself in regular grudging about events in the country, therefore, cannot cause doubts ... wink "You are a funny man ...!", As it was said in One film ...
      It is a pity that even such a topic as a TALK ABOUT PATRIOTISM YOU CLOSE ON YOUR PERSONAL DISASSEMBLIES. THAT'S ALL YOUR PATRIOTISM, GOOD GIRLS. The "guiding and leading role" of the VAF is felt. Well, this is a habitual and favorite activity for him.
      By the way - behind DVVPU. Unfortunately, he did not become a veteran - the hospital and the commission ...
      I have the honor, gentlemen, veterans. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) I won't be able to participate in further discussions of my patriotism - I'm going to work. "Our day is not NR-controlled ..."
      1. +6
        4 May 2013 07: 35
        OGO! What's going on guys? The word "colonel" in its pure form is issued as a "rug" Sasha, your freaks? You, as a moderator, have the opportunity to edit a text. So, if you "rule" like that, then it does not add honor to you.
        1. +2
          4 May 2013 07: 43
          The word "colonel" in its pure form is given as "rug"

          Well guys and the story unfolds)
          1. +2
            4 May 2013 07: 45
            Quote: Gleb
            Well guys and the story unfolds)

            Most disgusting, Gleb hi
            1. +6
              4 May 2013 08: 32
              Valera, Sasha, right now I’m going to die for you ... But now I’ll get the sword along the neck with a guy ... Showdowns need to be arranged in a personal, since you are so righteous ... I’ll go to hell am
              1. +5
                4 May 2013 08: 43
                Quote: domokl
                Only now I will get the sword and on the necks with a guy.

                Sasha, hide your sword, better listen to a good song drinks in Russian
        2. 0
          4 May 2013 07: 46
          Quote: esaul
          The word "colonel" in pure version is issued as a "rug" Sasha, your frills?

          I wrote everything to you in PM! answer to your koment will not and fall to the changes of other people's comments-this is not for me.
          And by the way, "fine" is also your jamb.
          Damn arranged a showdown, do you want srach to arrange scales in a personal!
          1. +1
            4 May 2013 07: 54
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I wrote everything to you in PM!

            I answered you in PM.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            there will be no answer to your koment and go down to changes in other people's comments - this is not for me

            I'm very glad. So the system is "fooling". In my draft, the word "colonel" goes through as it should. Understand the words "clean copy" and "draft"
        3. +9
          4 May 2013 07: 50
          It is extremely unfortunate that they are simply trying to ignore the topic outlined in the article and get into a showdown, which is fraught with blocking the entire branch by the Admin ....
        4. djon3volta
          -5
          4 May 2013 09: 41
          Quote: esaul
          You, as a moderator, have the opportunity to edit the text.

          so it turns out who edits and cuts my comments, although I guessed that way. Now I will know for 100% that there are two of them, an appalon and novels, put their hands on this. , recently here Tartary said that they have the function to remove ratings of 18, now my suspicions are justified.
          1. +6
            4 May 2013 16: 25
            Quote: djon3volta
            if in modera and Baltika18, t

            "They received praise and slander indifferently,
            And do not dispute a fool .... "
            request
        5. Yarbay
          0
          7 May 2013 01: 22
          and you are a moderator))))))))))
          in the sense of Sasha’s Katze is stronger than yours?))))))))))
          Gee)))
      2. 0
        4 May 2013 09: 27
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Your patriotism causes big doubts when I see words like Main WAF.

        Quote: esaul
        You guys are funny - then you can understand yesterday's debate of Apollo, who yesterday stubbornly pressed the provocative button, trying to convince me that I had "insulted the veteran." I tried as best I could to explain (exactly - to explain, not to make excuses! There is nothing to justify!) To Apollo that he is mistaken, and I cannot put my brains into his cranium. And Apollo, apparently, wanted to "stand up as a mountain" cheaply. As I see, it turned out.

        I do not enter the group of comrades, one of the leaders of which is Romanov, but in this case, Romanov is absolutely right. Esaul took advantage of a dirty trick, and now condemns something similar in this article. Especially the answer of Esaul to Apollon does not look beautiful. To whom to whom, and Esaulu to Apollo in matters of objectivity and impartiality is very far.
        Yesaul, you do not need to make excuses, and do not explain yourself, but just apologize
        1. +12
          4 May 2013 10: 09
          You still have a fight, hot Finnish guys! Like "marshals" on the site, but you bark like a corporal. I understand that you have a slightly different view of some personalities and events, but you don't need to arrange the topic in the subject. The fact that you have the highest ranks here means that you have much more in common than disagreements.
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            +1
            4 May 2013 15: 46
            Quite right, in a personal place is not enough?
        2. +5
          4 May 2013 16: 30
          Quote: Normal
          I don’t enter the group of comrades, one of the leaders of which is Romanov,

          Similarly.
          But I'm on his side. Why?
          We have the same views on almost all aspects, with the exception of religious issues.
          And I have a very positive attitude towards Sergey (VAF).
          But in principle, I propose to all parties the world in honor of the holidays. wink
          1. +1
            4 May 2013 16: 51
            Quote: baltika-18
            But in principle, I propose to all parties the world in honor of the holidays.

            hi Nikolay. The offer is timely and necessary. Take the plus from me for sanity. drinks
            1. +3
              4 May 2013 17: 00
              Quote: esaul
              Nikolay. The offer is timely and necessary.

              hi drinks
        3. Yarbay
          0
          7 May 2013 01: 26
          Quote: Normal
          I do not enter the group of comrades, one of the leaders of which is Romanov, but in this case, Romanov is absolutely right. Esaul took advantage of a dirty trick, and now condemns something similar in this article. Especially the answer of Esaul to Apollon does not look beautiful. To whom to whom, and Esaulu to Apollo in matters of objectivity and impartiality is very far.

          I do not know what this is about in this case, but I remember the old tricks of Comrade Esaul!
          I do not think that there is any sort of Romanov group!
          I personally consider Romanov and Sergey my friends, whom I met here and am proud of friendship with them, I am also convinced of the decency of Apollo, but this does not mean that I blindly agree with all their statements!
      3. makarich26
        +1
        4 May 2013 14: 24
        Quote: esaul
        By the way - behind DVVPU

        Yesaul, so you, it turns out, are from the political forces! Everything with you is clear. Now your praises of the sunflower and his compass are clear. Habit is second nature.
        1. +3
          4 May 2013 16: 11
          Quote: makarich26
          Yesaul, so you, it turns out, from the political forces!

          Do you think I will refuse? Not at all ... The Zampolitans — not the NKVD officers — fought on the front lines. I hope this photo tells you at least something.
          1. +5
            4 May 2013 19: 57
            Quote: esaul
            The Zampolitans — not the NKVD officers — fought on the front lines.

            You would think that the NKVDshnikov was not there! Something you have forgotten, dear!
            1. +4
              4 May 2013 21: 42
              Quote: Egoza
              Something you have forgotten, dear

              Good evening Elena hi
              No, I didn’t forget - I blundered a little in fever feel I agree and the NKVD wasn’t the only one who served ... Just like everywhere, like everyone else .... Accept plus, madame, as an apology love
          2. -2
            5 May 2013 01: 08
            Zampolit, at best, is "working as a liver for the inspectors", basically it is "margarine", that is, neither harm nor benefit. And honestly pop sexot from the official ideology-demagoguery. I mean the profession.
          3. Yarbay
            +1
            7 May 2013 01: 28
            Quote: esaul
            Do you think I will refuse? Not at all ... The Zampolitans — not the NKVD officers — fought on the front lines. I hope this photo tells you at least something.

            And what did the NKVDshniki not please you ??
        2. +3
          4 May 2013 20: 53
          Quote: makarich26
          praise of the sunflower and his compass. Habit is second nature.

          This is what you wrote to? I’m not a politician, but I praise the sun-faced so what? My beliefs and sympathies are relevant only to me. And if I want to express my point of view, I express it. I HAVE THE LAW! The same applies to Esaul. Who cares who who was? Or then familiarize us with your biography. Perhaps the relationship between your beliefs and your profession is also being found?
      4. SASCHAmIXEEW
        +2
        4 May 2013 15: 30
        As in the kitchen communal St. Petersburg visited .. Not about that ..
      5. +6
        4 May 2013 16: 44
        Quote: esaul
        You guys are funny - then you can understand yesterday's debate of Apollo, who yesterday stubbornly pressed the provocative button, trying to convince me that I had "insulted the veteran." I tried as best I could to explain (exactly - to explain, not to make excuses! There is nothing to justify!) To Apollo that he is mistaken, and I cannot put my brains into his cranium. And Apollo, apparently, wanted to "stand up as a mountain" cheaply. As I see, it turned out.


        Wow, we are guys, and you mean uncle. laughing
        Well Valery, I see you have a rich imagination. You should write books about science fiction or detective books, explain to people who are ignorant of this or that issue, thank God for me enough years, maybe I will even be older than you, as for authority, believe me. he won it on the forum with his overwhelming work, without anyone's patronage, he was not noted in PR as some. As for the quote, Work hard, come back and find my "muddying" Mr. VAF.
        they don’t need to look for them; they are in plain sight.
        Further, your quote, Guys, do not you talk about such moral categories! One has only to hurt your sick callus about conspiracy in PM to organize obstruction of the objectionable, as you rise, as the last and decisive battle. Your efforts, but in a constructive direction - you would not have a price.
        where there is a conspiracy with whom and when. facts, maybe correspondence in your hands, what evidence do you have?! I see you have a very rich imagination, with your imagination I will again refer to your own words. Your quote, your efforts, yes in a constructive direction - you would not have a price.
        very on time and by the way. it’s only a mistake that the address was wrong. this beautiful expression is addressed just to you and not to us.

        Do you think that criticism is the nurturing of the country?! It’s famous to listen to you in such a certain number of visitors as enemies of the people. In my understanding, if a person criticizes in the same way, it’s wonderful, the fate of the country is not indifferent, then the person is rooting for the country, by the way I’ll answer at the same time I’m personally not indifferent to the fate of Russia here, although I live in another state, I feel that we are together, which means I have every right to participate in the debate, by the way I would be very glad if you would at least once engage in constructive criticism of our country guidance and then you would not have a price. In your comments, except for the game and juggling words, I didn’t notice anything. But one moment is present namely who is not with us who is against us. Right ?!
        1. Anti
          -3
          4 May 2013 18: 35
          Quote: Apollon
          criticism


          That was what Apollo had to prove. I gave you a minus and immediately received a response "Weighty" from you, because you have the opportunity of a moderator to see the pluses of the minuses and who is betting. Not solid, sorry.
          1. +4
            4 May 2013 19: 00
            Quote: Anti
            That was what Apollo had to prove. I gave you a minus and immediately received a response "Weighty" from you, because you have the opportunity of a moderator to see the pluses of the minuses and who is betting. Not solid, sorry.


            I want to disappoint you, not you are not your comments are not of interest to me laughing
            1. Anti
              0
              4 May 2013 19: 18
              Quote: Apollon
              I want to disappoint you, not you are not your comments are not of interest to me


              I’m not talking about your comments, don’t step aside. You use your position as a moderator, for your own purposes, that is, take revenge on those who disagree with you. Yes, I read your comments with great interest, although I disagree with many. Esaul’s comments are also not with everything.
              1. +3
                4 May 2013 19: 23
                Quote: Anti
                I’m not talking about your comments, don’t step aside. You use your position as a moderator, for your own purposes, that is, take revenge on those who disagree with you. Yes, I read your comments with great interest, although I disagree with many. Esaul’s comments are also not with everything.


                Previously, your comments were at least of some interest, which can not be said now, my advice to you do not write your comments dictated by someone you know yourself. wassat

                as for the status of a moderator, sometimes I regret it, you know why because I want to because I can’t answer, but how to answer you’re like an old-timer, you know laughing
                For a word I’ll not get into my pocket !!!
                1. Anti
                  +4
                  4 May 2013 19: 35
                  Quote: Apollon
                  Previously, your comments were at least of some interest, which can not be said now, my advice to you is not to write your comments dictated by someone you yourself know.


                  What are you hinting at? Criticism should not be offensive, otherwise it is no longer criticism, but ordinary rudeness. I have always lived and live with my own head, without prompting from the side. I’ll tell you again, I myself. I will support any comment that is close to me, and also will not support any that is not. You use the status of a moderator for your own purposes, and this is not a buzz.
                  1. +5
                    4 May 2013 19: 59
                    Azerbaijan did not leave the USSR, the population voted for a renewed Union, we were betrayed as well as you, who, Yeltsin is burning in hell, I at least live in my republic, and where do you live in Germany, what the hell do you live in Germany, it would be better if you lived in Madagascar or in Mozambique it wouldn’t be so offensive.
                    1. Anti
                      0
                      4 May 2013 20: 14
                      Quote: Apollon
                      Azerbaijan did not leave the USSR, the population voted for a renewed Union, we were betrayed as well as you, who, Yeltsin is burning in hell, I at least live in my republic, and where do you live in Germany, what the hell do you live in Germany, it would be better if you lived in Madagascar or in Mozambique it wouldn’t be so offensive.


                      So, in your opinion, when I live in Germany, I worry less and am rooting for my homeland than you do in Azerbaijan? Why this question, avoiding the topic? Then you should not develop this topic further, you know my point of view.
                  2. 0
                    4 May 2013 21: 50
                    Quote: Anti
                    I’ll tell you again, I myself. I will support any comment that is close to me, and also will not support any that is not

                    Greetings Oleg hi Take the pros for a decent position and answers.
                    1. Anti
                      +3
                      4 May 2013 22: 06
                      Hello Valery, I would like to quote from a post from a site visitor: "The pluses are important to me in no way the quantity and shoulder straps, but as support for my opinion on some issue !!" Yarbay April 16, 2013 16:14

                      hi
                      1. +2
                        4 May 2013 22: 19
                        Quote: Anti
                        "The pluses are important to me in no way the quantity and shoulder straps, but as support for my opinion on some issue !!"

                        To me, these words of the said comrade, the same, are to my liking and consonant. thank drinks
                      2. Anti
                        +1
                        4 May 2013 22: 26
                        Quote: esaul
                        To me, these words of the said comrade, the same, are to my liking and consonant.


                        On that and stand! drinks
                      3. Anti
                        +1
                        5 May 2013 22: 30
                        East is a delicate matter!!!!! lol
                      4. Yarbay
                        0
                        7 May 2013 01: 31
                        hmm))))
                        quote pad collect Winnie?)))
                        why secretly, I would turn to you my notebook would give)))))))))
                        Well, you and the bug)))))
                      5. Anti
                        +1
                        7 May 2013 01: 35
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        why, on the quiet, would I turn to you my notebook


                        You don’t bully Alibaba’s nose, you’ll hit the ceiling))))
                  3. Yarbay
                    0
                    7 May 2013 01: 50
                    Quote: Anti
                    and the usual hamst

                    Vinnie)))
                    Well, about rudeness, I would not say anything))))
                    Whoever you are not rude here))))))))))
                    1. Anti
                      +1
                      7 May 2013 01: 55
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      Whoever you are not rude here))))))))))


                      The teachers here were good. By the way, you are one of them, Alibaba)
          2. +2
            5 May 2013 02: 29
            Quote: Anti
            I gave you a minus and immediately received a response "Weighty"

            Catch one more - from me personally negative That life would not seem honey wassat
            1. Anti
              -3
              5 May 2013 09: 28
              Quote: Ruslan67
              Catch one more - from me personally negative That life would not seem like honey wassat


              negative It’s like licking, I didn’t think that you .. negative
              1. +6
                6 May 2013 02: 59
                Quote: Anti
                I didn’t think that you ..

                Do not think further wassat Tired of disassembly because of all garbage fool
                1. Anti
                  0
                  6 May 2013 09: 38
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  Don’t think about it anymore. Wassat Tired of disassembly due to any fool stuff

                  am am am
                  1. +1
                    6 May 2013 23: 53
                    Anti


                    you don’t have to grit your teeth,

                    1. Anti
                      -1
                      6 May 2013 23: 58
                      Quote: Apollon
                      you don’t have to grit your teeth,


                      but the fact that? am
                      1. +2
                        7 May 2013 00: 09
                        Quote: Anti
                        but the fact that?


                        but the fact that

                        You don’t grit your teeth with me. You erase them even to the roots. I’ll puff ugh on your creak, understand?

                        Guess the first time, the author, then laughing
                      2. Anti
                        -2
                        7 May 2013 00: 12
                        Quote: Apollon
                        You don’t grit your teeth with me. You erase them even to the roots. I’ll puff ugh on your creak, understand?


                        Not you but you. Contact me the only way. Zhiglov or what?
                      3. +3
                        7 May 2013 00: 13
                        Quote: Anti
                        Not you, but you. Contact me the only way.


                        it’s not me, but the protagonist of the film cannot change the meeting place. I simply quoted him unequivocally. However, your nerves also give you problems with humor, trouble laughing
                      4. Anti
                        +1
                        7 May 2013 00: 17
                        Quote: Apollon
                        Not you, but you. Contact me the only way.


                        so it’s not me either, it’s you to yourself. Remember your mail?
                      5. +1
                        7 May 2013 00: 22
                        Quote: Anti
                        so it’s not me either, it’s you to yourself. Remember your mail?


                        what you started as in the movie there I remember I don’t remember, by God don’t tell me not the others, you’re a bit tense with humor, all the problems laughingIf it was a little warm-up, which you did not pass good night Oleg, do not be sad and do not take to heart, it happens.
                      6. Anti
                        +2
                        7 May 2013 00: 29
                        Quote: Apollon
                        You’re a little tight


                        with this I can live than rich.
                        Hey, comedian.
                      7. +2
                        7 May 2013 00: 36
                        Well, you see, it’s not all lost, life goes on, right?! You are our embittered. laughingJudging by your avatar, you wilted, such a feeling that you were heartbroken ?! You used to have another, cheerful avatar.
                      8. Anti
                        0
                        7 May 2013 00: 42
                        Quote: Apollon
                        You had a different, cheerful avatar.


                        So I tried it many times, it doesn’t pass and the pictures do not pass.
                      9. +1
                        7 May 2013 00: 51
                        Quote: Anti
                        So I tried it many times, it doesn’t pass and the pictures do not pass.


                        and you will contact your protégé or your newly-born friend, bro, he will certainly help you. Someone is the one with whom you were killed not for life but for death and he will help you. Hint: You recently quoted his words in your comment and communicated so friendly, do not spill water laughing the paradox didn’t know that miracles happen on the forum. laughing
                      10. Anti
                        +1
                        7 May 2013 01: 06
                        Quote: Apollon
                        Who, so this is the one with whom you were cut not for life but for death


                        Yarbai or what? He is on my blacklist under the number 2, and why can I not try out something that coincides with my opinion? Unless, of course, the quote is not lacquered. And what not to talk about? Everything has its time and peace and warrior. There is no peace without war.
                        Why did you get some kind of protection? I am on my own.

                        You recently quoted his words in your comment

                        Or is it a hint?
                      11. +2
                        7 May 2013 01: 09
                        Quote: Anti
                        Yarbai or what? He is on my blacklist under the number 2, and why can I not try out something that coincides with my opinion? Unless, of course, the quote is not lacquered. And what not to talk about? Everything has its time and peace and warrior. There is no peace without war.



                        You and that hypocrite God help you, all hang up !!!
                      12. Anti
                        +1
                        7 May 2013 01: 25
                        And let him not deprive you of his attention.
                      13. Yarbay
                        +1
                        7 May 2013 01: 35
                        Quote: Anti
                        Yarbai or what? He is on my blacklist under the number 2, and why can I not try out something that coincides with my opinion? Unless, of course, the quote is not lacquered. And what not to talk about? Everything has its time and peace and warrior. There is no peace without war.

                        how scary I am))))))))))
                        and why number 2?)))
                        Growth I did not come out?)))
                        and about the war, I do not fight against people of dishonor and dignity virtually))) I didn’t even fight much honor with your master !!
                      14. Anti
                        +1
                        7 May 2013 01: 40
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I'm not fighting people of dishonor and dignity)


                        Thanks for the compliment!!)

                        I didn’t even fight with him much honor with your master !!


                        Still want to be number 1?
    2. -3
      5 May 2013 05: 35
      Mr. Romanov (for some reason, with a small letter?), as I understand it, it implements used cars from Japan, with which we do not have a peace treaty, but also consider himself a patriot. That is, it offers a car from under the ass of enemies - the Japs.
      1. +3
        6 May 2013 03: 01
        Quote: kush62
        kush62

        Have you decided to join a certain side? what
  5. -23
    4 May 2013 06: 32
    People make money and do funny shows. I am glad that they show them and not Galkin. Ummm, as for personal experiences, what prevents you from pressing the TNT button, there is a continuous, round-the-clock "obscenity". You can even lock yourself at home and delete from your memory the hours of watching "Raunchy" KVN, with this "bald major".

    Only if she "lost the edge of what is permissible, sense of tact and sense of conscience," dropped it as a joke, quite possibly not fully understanding what it was about - in a humorous project, then on another channel such things are said in all seriousness.
    1. +3
      4 May 2013 07: 19
      I don’t agree with you about the button. Yes, and there is no alternative on the other channel. The same muck, in principle, on the other channel. It should not be on any channel of this abomination.
      1. -10
        4 May 2013 08: 27
        Quote: magadanets
        I don’t agree with you about the button. Yes, and there is no alternative on the other channel. The same muck, in principle, on the other channel. It should not be on any channel of this abomination.


        As soon as a normal youth channel appears, with funny jokes about the government (which they are sooo afraid to hurt), about agents of the State Department, about the West, About AlahAkbar. Young people will begin to watch it.

        And now, if you please have something, that is, you want to laugh, watch Kamedi-Vumen once a week, about life, or once a year a direct line with Vladimir Vladimirovich, also about life, is also funny.
        1. korm-yurii
          +2
          4 May 2013 12: 42
          For me, this is complete shit and this channel is deleted.
    2. +7
      4 May 2013 07: 56
      It’s still dirty to make money and do shows on insulting our history and heroes. And on other channels, on a serious one, this is an ideological diversion aimed at a more serious audience. TNT is watching young people, fed up with such jokes, they are seriously taking information by switching the channel.
      1. -5
        4 May 2013 08: 19
        Quote: Renat
        It’s still dirty to make money and do shows on insulting our history and heroes.



        Comedy Wumen appeared on TNT several years ago. And here is one jamb on their part (I suppose unconscious), and now they earn money by insulting the heroes? In my opinion this is nonsense. And the jamb, I suppose, surfaced due to the fact that on TNT the day before yesterday they played them all day, and the show itself with the "jamb" is not at all timed to the 9th of May. Just a funny show. Much funnier and more talented than Petrosyan and Galkin.

        Quote: Renat
        TNT is watching young people, fed up with such jokes, they are seriously taking information by switching the channel.


        Is it because he is watching that the first channel is not interesting to watch? Well, of course, there are fans of "Let's Get Married" and Doctor Malakhov.

        And jokes, like jokes, are funny for the most part.
        1. +9
          4 May 2013 08: 34
          Jokes of this kind are designed for an audience for whom Dom-2 is the bible and Sobchak and Malakhov are gods. It is not necessary to introduce strict censorship, it is necessary to introduce responsibility for insulting the feelings of the nation, including its heroes. At least a public apology for the "jamb".
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            +1
            4 May 2013 15: 52
            1000000 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    3. ttttt
      +2
      4 May 2013 11: 33
      Only if she "lost the edge of what is permissible, sense of tact and sense of conscience," dropped it as a joke, quite possibly not fully understanding what it was about - in a humorous project, then on another channel such things are said in all seriousness.


      So that this brainless scarecrow does not "drop it as a joke" - you need to learn what you can and what not, drive understanding into the boss.

      People make money and make funny shows.


      Well, this is generally beyond comprehension. So money is above all? Honor, conscience? If you amuse tragedy of the martyrdom of a Russian hero you have no place on earth, you are not a man at all.
      1. +7
        4 May 2013 12: 14
        Yes, they don’t know about Karbyshev’s Feat, if they knew, they wouldn’t blurt it out!
    4. SASCHAmIXEEW
      +1
      4 May 2013 15: 49
      Do you think they do not rehearse ... Impromptu get in touch .. I doubt it!
  6. +10
    4 May 2013 06: 38
    Vasya 71st is a clear provocateur; there are no such stupid ones. It should have been simply ignored, but then such wonderful answers would not have been read. And IN an outlet for people, it's nice to listen to you all. Hello.
    1. +5
      4 May 2013 07: 41
      In my opinion there are plenty of provocateurs, so I seriously do not take any of them. And you know, I think it’s not necessary to be very indignant about insulting the memory of Victory, because those who insult it are our enemies, and the vile ones, those people against whom our ancestors fought and wonders at their statements, you just need to give in the face when meeting them like a warrior. I personally was very much offended by the words of the Romanian and part of the Moldavian nationalists about the Second World War, I was insulted until I realized that they were enemies, those against whom we may fight in the future.
      1. +2
        4 May 2013 10: 33
        It is not the case when meeting in the face to give, if only in response. And how to recognize such people, because they don’t walk in horns and hooves. And there are enough people who want to reconsider the justice of Victory, both on us and on the fraternal nezalezhnoy. It’s useless to treat, you won’t succeed with your fist, you don’t really want a war either, or only in return, as in 41-45m. Then we sign on their main walls.
    2. +8
      4 May 2013 08: 35
      Quote: Irkutsk
      Vasya 71st is a clear provocateur; there are no such stupid ones.

      Apparently, a message on the Eye Planet somehow slipped past everyone’s attention
      Military war trolls or what budget money is for
      It's no secret that all these many people with
      shoulder straps, ksivy, purses or machine guns called the armed forces,
      law enforcement agencies, special services and others are exclusively funded
      from the budget, say from our pocket. Because even if we do not wish
      pay taxes, then by buying something we already pay one of the taxes and so on.
      So, recently, the leaders of many of these power structures
      preoccupied with the creation of a kind of “Internet troops”. Moreover, the purpose of these
      "Trolls in the civil service" is not at all in the conduct of a psychological war for the good
      Homeland, and in stupid art "in kamenty." In the interest, again, not
      Homeland, and the very authorities. And what is the interest of the authorities? One side,
      probably, sometimes it’s just a shame to read something critical about yourself. And on the other
      parties - it’s scary that a larger boss will read the article, but at the same time
      reads and comments. In general, a bad thing. But, as it turned out, organized and
      paid. The editorial staff got some interesting letters that he sent
      an employee of the Ministry of Defense to his “employees”. Enjoy it. (Well and on there)
      http://oko-planet.su/politik....ta.html
      XXXX
      And although this message refers to the Ukrainian "fighters", to whom Vasya may belong, but I do not exclude that the same units have been created in the Russian Federation and in other fraternal countries.
      1. +3
        4 May 2013 10: 42
        So these who work komentzasrami immediately visible, and God bless them, turn on the ignore button and continue to communicate. They will not pay for a talented troll for a long time, they will go to the category of losers and join the ranks of swamps offended
    3. AK-47
      +3
      4 May 2013 11: 01
      Quote: Irkutsk
      Vasya 71st is a clear provocateur ... and VO is an outlet for people, it's nice to listen to you all

      ++++++++++++. Yes
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  8. +1
    4 May 2013 06: 51
    comedy wumen is designed for "her" viewer. you just don't have to watch this gamna that's all. you can't change their head, over time the rating will drop and the gear will be closed
    1. -1
      4 May 2013 06: 56
      Please give an example of a funny comedy show on TV? News 1 channel for many years as not funny.
      1. +4
        4 May 2013 07: 16
        And here, Ural Dumplings still like ... Also, probably the enemies of the people.
      2. +1
        4 May 2013 07: 22
        Yes, I do not look much. sometimes in kvn there are good jokes
        1. 0
          4 May 2013 07: 51
          KVN used to watch, but there recently, for the sake of one good joke, sometimes for half an hour you had to listen to bad ones. Stopped it. There used to be teams that really burned. Including with Khrustalev from St. Petersburg team.
  9. +9
    4 May 2013 06: 59
    I want to ask our lawmakers why they can’t, or maybe don’t want, adopt a law on insulting heroes, defenders of our country. You will see who are not too lazy to insult the memory of the dead, and prisoners of concentration camps and participants in armed conflicts (the Motherland sent them there to protect us all ,
    including those same freaks who in every possible way want to humiliate and reduce the GREATNESS of the defenders of the Fatherland. To see our deputies only think about protecting their honor, although the reputation of their honor is a big question.
    1. +2
      4 May 2013 07: 17
      I want to ask our legislators

      Want to ask her? State Duma deputy!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3qHtRsnJM4
      1. +2
        4 May 2013 08: 04
        To point + 10000
  10. +9
    4 May 2013 06: 59
    And they don’t show normal people in the mailbox for a long time. Therefore, the programs are like that. We’re filming, sometimes I’m showing them, then NTVeshnikov, or some other not traditional ones. They either sing songs about the blue moon, then Stalin is bad, then Vlasov’s heroes, then white condoms they’re calling me to hang on my chest. Now I’m completely insolent, I’ve taken the holy day, Victory Day. I couldn’t think about this, what is possible. I know from the media about the club and the club’s gum or how it is right, because I can’t do this muck watch for more than 2 seconds. House5 even when this rubbish started looked 2 minutes, spat and turned off. That's the language asking for the phrase- ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE.
  11. fenix57
    +6
    4 May 2013 07: 04
    Creativity(from the English create - create, create) - the creative abilities of the individual, characterized by a willingness to accept and create fundamentally new ideas that deviate from traditional or accepted patterns of thinking and are included in the giftedness structure as an independent factor, as well as the ability to solve problems that arise inside static systems.
    Certainly something, but the talent mentioned in the article "participants of Razvlekalov" can not boast in any way (judging by the horse neighing over flat "jokes").
    Quote: pinecone
    Mention General Karbyshev next to all this scum should not

    All of those involved, and the audience in the studio, apparently studied the history of our country from newspaper clippings from the Western media and have no idea what it is about. hi
    1. +2
      4 May 2013 08: 15
      The most interesting thing is that most of the audience of KAM6di probably don’t know who General Karbyshev is, then the question arises, is the sense in such jokes for these creatives, to kick a dead lion ???
  12. +4
    4 May 2013 07: 15
    This bohemia got it already. This Mr Zi has no conscience. There was a similar article recently. Prescribed from the heart (not obscenities) these bohemians ... The comment was deleted. Conclusion: is the "remote" the same from those bohemians?
  13. +5
    4 May 2013 07: 27
    [quote = FC Skiff] There is such a word, censorship is called ...
    I suspect that TV is controlled from overseas. Censorship will not help. They and the censor will control
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    2. +2
      4 May 2013 08: 49
      Naturally, Chubais did not "know" that he was working with agents of the Central Russian Federation in the government! Yes, apparently, and the FSB "does not know about THIS" ...
  14. OTAKE
    +5
    4 May 2013 07: 32
    Blow the redheads, the rest in a hurry, the bald forest fell, and no problem)
  15. Captain Vrungel
    +7
    4 May 2013 07: 38
    Sho You think, as the late great-grandmother of Sim said, these street showers, pickers of copper, in their times were buried behind the fence of the churchyard. Times are different now. And this untalented, vulgar riffraff, insolent dough combers, popped up on screens and stages, and even central ones. The impudent Gariki Kharlamovs are the standard of modernity. The main characters of the screen are the so-called "beau monde" and "golden youth" who are burning their lives impudent, vulgar, cynical, stoned or drunk.
    Pay attention to who the main character they are promoting. Ordinary one-mean, or a fool with a dashed gyrus. Humor is completely replaced by vulgar and pahabshin. Having lighted up on KVN and having got a taste, rushed to scratch the clubs, women, dumplings.
    Who is the main hero promoted to us by "high art" - a bandit, a loafer, a rich man and the humiliated, ridiculed by them around them, ie people.
    But, capitalism, fellow citizens. Everyone scratches money as he can and how he can. Loot is primary, morality ... but it is simply superfluous.
    1. +6
      4 May 2013 07: 59
      How did the social status of Humor change? Previously, he "ridiculed", now "propagandizes".
  16. +3
    4 May 2013 07: 42
    Well, isn’t it clear that today they are laughing at the Motherland and Heroes of the country, and tomorrow you can betray this Motherland, and aren't the Heroes laughing at them? In general, the number of people wishing to join Pussy is growing.
    1. AK-47
      +8
      4 May 2013 11: 22
      Quote: tomket
      ... well, isn't it understandable, today they are laughing at the Motherland ...

      ... and normal people.
  17. +10
    4 May 2013 07: 46
    Gums -women, clubs made by degenerates about degenerates and for degenerates.
    They would have amused me from the heart of the show where they sawed logs with real malachov and other ernsts in real time as long as sod-2.
    1. +3
      4 May 2013 13: 30
      And we, will we be able to crush this Mr.z all together? And as I would like. I am with you, Humpty.
  18. +2
    4 May 2013 08: 02
    Just censorship is not very good. Need an ideology. And already from this ideology to dance. There, censorship as such will not be needed. And now there is the OWNER. And everyone is dancing from the owner. What can I say, what would the owner like, how to please the owner ... Ideology is a complex thing, it takes a long time to implement. So can start to put the right owners?
    1. +3
      4 May 2013 08: 32
      Ideology with 90x grandmas to grab, and its main guide to the life of the State machine, with the same 90x. As the powers that be are saturated, they have a conscience and a sense of patriotism, as well as children whose saturation has not yet occurred.
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      0
      4 May 2013 16: 17
      Master, but not complete! It would be complete, the media and TV would have long been disgusting, would have refused !!!
  19. +7
    4 May 2013 08: 36
    zvereok RU Today, 06:32 AM
    People make money and make funny shows. I'm glad that they are shown and not Galkin. Ummm, with regard to personal experiences, what prevents you from pressing the TNT button ...


    It is outrageous that the authorities allow you to EARN money "at any cost"! On the one hand, THERE IS THERE to educate YOUNG PEOPLE, and on the other hand, they turn a blind eye to immoral, vulgar programs aimed at degrading this very YOUTH! A mature, sensible person, of course, will press this BUTTON, but a teenager, a child would rather want to watch an "easy", "funny" program than an informative, useful one, well, at least not destroying HIS yet not formed WORLD VIEW. So from all kinds of Kamedi, yes durdomov-2, etc., children have a "roof" and go, and cynical, immoral people grow up, for whom, apart from the presence of $, there is nothing valuable and HOLY! Hence the prostitutes, and juvenile murderers, torturers of their own peers ... Even children's cartoons are stuffed with swear words, constant "petty" dirty tricks in the relationship of characters, stupidity of plots! It is necessary to introduce CENSORSHIP on TV, and not for the sake of the liberals to corrupt the youth! Where is the work of the Ministry of CULTURE and IDEOLOGY ?!
  20. +4
    4 May 2013 08: 43
    Unfortunately, such transmissions can be done by degenerates, but by the order of clever traitors.
    I wonder what anti-Russian film will NTV give out on Victory Day? Previously, they were distinguished by the preparation of slops. The impression that patriots and the fifth column coexist on NTV. Or did it come to the Kremlin and Miller was given the command to say "Fu"? And many people know that the TNT channel, which succeeds in obscenities for young people, belongs to Gazprom, i.e. to the state?
  21. VDV 80-82
    -10
    4 May 2013 08: 46
    in no way justifying Comedy Wumen, I want to tell Mr. Esaul that he is too categorical! Well, guys from this show, so keep in mind at what time and in what environment they grew up! Well, our dear veterans themselves are quite humorous and adequate uncles and aunts ... and the same Hero of the Soviet Union, General Karbyshev died, including for the fact that such unreasonable descendants could freely express their thoughts! IMHO ...
    1. +9
      4 May 2013 08: 49
      Quote: VDV 80-82
      well, guys from this show, so keep in mind at what time and in what environment they grew up

      Sorry, but for those who manage the TNT channel for how many years? What society did they grow up in?
      Quote: VDV 80-82
      ... and the same Hero of the Soviet Union, General Karbyshev, was killed including for the fact that such unreasonable descendants could freely express their thoughts!

      They died for the fact that there would be no such scoundrels!
    2. vladsolo56
      0
      4 May 2013 09: 04
      minus, and I do not even want to comment.
    3. +1
      4 May 2013 10: 27
      descendants were free to express their thoughts

      it’s hard to digest what they perished for. It’s possible to understand a person for their views, opinions ... but for example, House-2 I can’t understand. I still don’t understand those who like it. Often it’s so annoying to TV but the house is alone from several scandalous programs, which does not leave me indifferent.
    4. +1
      4 May 2013 12: 48
      Quote: VDV 80-82
      Hero of the Soviet Union, General Karbyshev died, including for the fact that such unreasonable descendants could freely express their thoughts!

      Do you really think what it is?
  22. VDV 80-82
    +3
    4 May 2013 08: 53
    died for the motherland !!! without separating scoundrels from normal people! Alexander, be gentle to people, the more they are still very young
    1. +8
      4 May 2013 09: 19
      Quote: VDV 80-82
      Alexander, be gentle to people, the more they are still very young

      The management of TNT and NTV is far from young, and it is they who determine what programs should be and what kind of humor should be. For them, money means much more than memory and history.
      1. VDV 80-82
        +4
        4 May 2013 09: 48
        I'm not talking about the channel's management ... they initially position themselves as entertaining ... but since they do not violate the laws so far, there is nothing to shut them down! Well, the fact that they violate moral and ethical standards ... this is not a corner! I absolutely do not support them, do not understand correctly ... we just went through this "hold and do not let go"
        1. +1
          4 May 2013 13: 20
          drove something into the minus
        2. +1
          4 May 2013 20: 23
          Quote: VDV 80-82
          Well, what violates moral and ethical standards ... this is not a corner! I absolutely do not support them, do not understand correctly ... we just went through this "hold and do not let go"

          If they know how to violate moral and ethical standards, let them know how to apologize and learn to think what they say. From violations of moral and ethical standards to criminality is one step.
  23. +2
    4 May 2013 08: 58
    I completely agree with the author!
    What I would like to add. These individuals can not be redone, our task is to raise our children with dignity. If possible, exclude liberal elements in the worldview and give more spiritual beginning to immature souls.
    1. +3
      4 May 2013 12: 49
      Fyodor Tyutchev
      Vain work - no, you will not understand them, -
      The more liberal, the more vulgar,
      Civilization is a fetish for them,
      But their idea is not available to them.

      As you bow down before her, gentlemen,
      You do not get recognition from Europe:
      In her eyes, you will always
      They are not servants of enlightenment, but servants.
  24. vladsolo56
    +8
    4 May 2013 09: 03
    Yes, this is our victory, but not theirs, for them today there is nothing more valuable than money, everything else is rubbish and its waste. In the trash honor, conscience, justice. Already I want from that baldezha who staged on TV. To be honest, I’ve almost never looked at the mailbox for a couple of years, sometimes only news, and even that is disgusting. You’ll see how the deceased Thatcher is praised on all channels, or the race expresses condolences to the president of America. While no one even stutters about the killing of dozens of schoolchildren in Syria. So I think who is laughing at the pioneers in the Soviet Union now? But what have we been taught in pioneering? someone may find the charter or oath of a pioneer upon entry. All buried, all vulgarized, what gave in return? what do modern pioneer schoolchildren think about, what principles do they have in mind? So they will grow up with such principles as people without honor and conscience. It's only the beginning.
    1. VDV 80-82
      +3
      4 May 2013 09: 12
      You see, people are not robots! everyone has their own character, upbringing, interests ... the task of parents and the older generation in general is to prevent breaking the ties of the times so that our boys and girls are proud that they are Russian! by Russians, I mean not only nationality, but generally the mentality ... Kazakh, Ossetian, Chechen ... if they cherish the Russian World and the Glory of their ancestors who fought together against the fascists at the front.
      1. vladsolo56
        +6
        4 May 2013 10: 19
        Who do children now believe more? to parents? who plow for say a small salary, or maybe managers whose salary is two, three times as much. Or even better, a TV that screams every minute, buy it. No money is not a problem, take a loan, but buy it. Is it now on TV they urge to be honest, decent. If there are such heroes, they are just not an example to follow. Yes, they are honest, they are decent, but they are poor, suckers as young people call them. Poor parents, or let's say not rich, are shy. They often despise, and sometimes even hate. And these are not isolated cases, unfortunately this tendency has a place for development.
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  26. +5
    4 May 2013 09: 21
    A little help:
    The channel is owned by the media holding "Gazprom-Media"
    OJSC Gazprom Media
    Owner: Holding is owned by Gazprombank; actual control is exercised by the state gas monopoly Gazprom. Gazprombank is controlled by the non-state pension fund Gazfond (50% plus 1 share). The Russian gas monopoly OAO Gazprom owns another 41,7% of the shares. New financial technologies LLC owns another 6,3% of shares, 99,99% of which belongs to Gazprombank itself
    Key figures: Alexander Dybal (chairman of the board of directors), Nikolai Senkevich (general director).
    Revenue: In 2007, the total revenue of the holding amounted to more than 1 million US dollars (compared with 275, an increase of 2006%).
    Assets:
    - TV companies "NTV", "TNT", satellite TV company "NTV-Plus"
    - Radio stations "Echo of Moscow", "First popular radio" ("Pops"), NEXT, "CITY-FM", Relax-FM, "Children's radio"
    Not all assets. Completely here: http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/sokol_14/post93393616/
  27. +7
    4 May 2013 09: 23
    The TNT channel generally drives all kinds of rubbish like Dom-2, gum, etc. All programs are riddled with cheap rudeness, it's time to close it. It’s rightly said about censorship, it’s time to tighten it.
    1. +1
      4 May 2013 09: 52
      No, you shoot Serdyukov first, and then censorship (which by the way has long been on TV).
  28. +1
    4 May 2013 09: 49
    Quote from the author: "I came home from work, turned on the TV for the background, periodically" shoot "with the remote control and I must, - I ended up on" Comedy woman "- a concoction that I always held for a cheap handicraft that is not worthy of its very existence." And yet you watched it to the end. What for? This is some kind of masochism.
    1. +3
      4 May 2013 10: 08
      It is sometimes useful to "peep" in order to know WHO and WHAT are "feeding" our children, forms their moral, intellectual worldview, attitude to the Motherland!
  29. +5
    4 May 2013 09: 49
    Actually, in our country, in my opinion, the article for prostitution has not yet been canceled, but on TNT they are actively promoting "Brothel-2", where all the participants walked in a circle, even the old mother, and she stared into this disgrace, where the fathers look when they mock them daughters, how we have become spiritually impoverished, a shame.
    NTV is generally a miracle channel, then about bandits they turned films now about cops, they got sick of it, but Sveta Chicken is a girl with eyes of a baby, on the principle of so what is that stupid, but on TV and Ren-TV is also some kind of nonsense.
    In general, it’s time for the state to nationalize television, or even the news for half an hour.
  30. +4
    4 May 2013 09: 54
    Look, even Yandex every day about the Tsarnaev hysteria, as if apologizing to the amers.
    In this regard, Kadyrov, well done, they did not live in Chechnya, you raised them and went ......
    Everything is clear and understandable.
  31. +5
    4 May 2013 10: 08
    gum vumen - I estimate for myself as follows - one more proof that women have nothing to do in humor. (as they say - girls no offense)
  32. +4
    4 May 2013 10: 33
    [quote = Rus2012] It's very simple, our home-grown "enlightened liberals" excluded one general and included another in the school curriculum ...
    Until we cleanse the "agiyev stables" from the shit, it will be so ... [/ quote

    I fully support your opinion. While they "give" air to all kinds of "Echoes" and the president is talking with Benediktov, while the low-standard SHOWs continue on the air, one should not expect positive changes.
  33. +2
    4 May 2013 10: 54
    Baba from the show most likely didn’t even understand what she had voiced. But the scribbler of the person who wrote the text should be brought to socially useful work for 15 days. To wash public toilets. And so with all the like. You look at television less
    1. +3
      4 May 2013 12: 29
      Naturally, a whole generation of POSTOGOLOVS has grown up - the result of educational reforms of Fursenko, Medvedev with the tacit consent of Putin! Maybe it is DAMAGED even and does not know who Karbyshev is, if many "products" of the reform find it difficult to say: - "The sun around the Earth or the Earth around the Sun ...", and the half-Japanese girl does not know what Hiroshima and Nagasaki are.
  34. +10
    4 May 2013 11: 51
    He studied at the school named after Karbyshev. There was a magnificent museum of military glory, there was a monument to the Hero - from a block like a mighty torso of a warrior from ice with bound hands and an unconquered gaze, there were letters and photographs. Once the head teacher caught me and my friend in the corridor (we skipped) and instead of reporting back, kindly asked me for a favor: with a friend we carried an honor guard, I remember that responsibility, understanding that I was skipping and now I have unworthy the honor of guarding, and so imperceptibly, to himself, he apologized to Dmitry Mikhailovich Karbyshev. We were such Soviet children brought up by the Great Patriotic War, Robin Hoods, Electronics, Alisa Selezneva, Uncle Styopa as a policeman, ordinary Petrovs and Vasechkins. Playing war games in the yard, they hoarsely cursed for the right to fight for ours.
  35. Dimkapvo
    +4
    4 May 2013 12: 30
    There was such a gloomy article in the USSR Criminal Code - "Mockery of the memory of the fallen ..", unfortunately I cannot remember the full text - I met it several times in various publications. Does anyone know if there was such an article and if there was, is it valid now? It would be very useful for such people!
  36. +2
    4 May 2013 12: 41
    Yes, just strip these monkeys naked and under a cold shower, the show will be
    1. 0
      4 May 2013 13: 46
      It is advisable in the winter and on the street! - let them laugh ...
  37. Shawnee
    +1
    4 May 2013 12: 52
    Quote: zvereok
    our culture has degraded

    Businessman Mikhail Prokhorov turned to the St. Petersburg governor with a proposal to take financial care of the Aurora if the cruiser is withdrawn from the Russian Navy.

    Information that the legendary cruiser may be withdrawn from the Russian Navy appeared in November. So "Aurora" was going to be punished for the party that Mikhail Prokhorov gave on board in June. For the cruiser, this would mean the disappearance of the Andreev flags, the loss of the military crew and the transformation into an ordinary museum. The final decision on this matter has not yet been announced.

    Meanwhile, the culprit of the scandal, Prokhorov himself, unexpectedly stood up for the ship. The businessman turned to the Governor of St. Petersburg Valentina Matvienko with a proposal to finance the continued existence of the cruiser. The motivation is unexpected: the oligarch claims that he intends to take Aurora under his wing in order to prevent any entertainment events from being held there.

    "Recently, a heated discussion has developed in the media about the possible withdrawal of the cruiser from the Navy and, as a result, the termination of funding for the facility from the Ministry of Defense. I see in this a danger that the cruiser Aurora, which has become In recent years, the venue for a huge number of events and festivals, filming films and clips, will finally turn into an entertainment venue.I believe that this should not be allowed, as it will deal a serious blow to the ideals and feelings of many patriots, veterans and residents of St. Petersburg. our history should also not turn into an object of disputes between business entities about its further content and provision, "says Mikhail Prokhorov in his address.

    According to the oligarch, if a decision is made to exclude the cruiser from the Russian Navy, his Charitable Foundation is ready to provide the necessary funding to transfer the Aurora to the balance of the city - "in order to preserve it, improve the quality of the material and technical base, and more actively introduce modern museum technologies. and increasing its popularity and attendance. "

    Recall that On the night of June 5-6, the cruiser celebrated the birthday of the Russian Pioneer magazine, owned by Prokhorov. About 150 guests were invited to the party, who were entertained by the host Tina Kandelaki and musician Sergey Shnurov. The main military prosecutor's office of the Russian Federation concluded that this event was unlawful and ordered the naval command to bring the perpetrators to disciplinary responsibility. The Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, in turn, issued an order banning the activities on ships "not related to the life of the troops."

    Prokhorov himself then said that he did not feel guilty for the party he organized on the Aurora, since the cruiser had long since lost its symbolism. Now, apparently, he changed his mind.
  38. +2
    4 May 2013 12: 57
    And I rarely turn on the TV, I can not turn it on for several days. When I turn it on, it’s mainly Country life, sports. The son does not watch TV at all. Young people now and no time to watch - work, study.
  39. +3
    4 May 2013 13: 12
    Article plus! I am not against jokes as such ... But mockery is also disgusting as such. This performance, (the word show, like English, has already filled the mark) I have nothing but a strong sense of disgust. Our youth is being pulled all the way to the fore, they are striving to move away from knowledge and impose an irresistible consumption, which can only be done with fools. But this abomination also earns loot and be modest and will not be ashamed. I am for censorship. Because it is against chatter and anarchy, which is disguised as shabby liberalism.
  40. +2
    4 May 2013 13: 40
    Yes, these gum clucks don't even know who Karbyshev is. They didn't put such information in their heads with bird brains ... And the word "creative" just covers up their mediocrity, worthlessness, idleness, unwillingness and inability to create at least something useful, necessary and worthwhile.
  41. +4
    4 May 2013 13: 46
    Quote: shinobi
    Baba from the show most likely didn’t even understand what she had voiced. But the scribbler of the person who wrote the text should be brought to socially useful work for 15 days. To wash public toilets. And so with all the like. You look at television less


    Dossier - http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedy_Woman
    The author of the idea: Natalia Yeprikyan.
    Stage Director: Roman Novikov (starting from the 36-th issue; from the 1-th to the 35-th release - Dmitry Efimovich).
    Director of photography: Andrey Katorzhenko.
    Set Designer: Maria Turskaya.
    Costume designers: Yana Gail, Stella Zharsky.
    Lighting Designer: Egor Morozov.
    Composer: Vitaly Kudrin.
    Choreography: Catherine Barnabas.
    Installation director: Akim Kartashov (starting from the 36-th release; from the 1-th to the 35-th release - Roman Novikov).
    Assistant Director: Svetlana Asatryan.
    Sound engineers: Vitaly Kudrin, Alexander Idiatullin, Evgeny Kharitonov.
    Executive producer: Vladimir Sennikov.
    Creative producer: David Tsallaev.
    Producers: Natalia Yeprikyan, Vyacheslav Dusmukhametov, Semyon Slepakov, Anatoly Burnoso

    If Slepakov had a hand in the text, it’s a Jumbo jamb!

    About writing a public "Fiii!", I agree!
    Only thing is this, in this case it will not create any effect. Because any response for them - positive / abusive - increases the rating.
    I know of only one case that led to harsh organizational conclusions - mockery of patients with cystic fibrosis by the leading r / s "Mayak" - they were all dispersed, the topic was closed. all because it smelled of real claims to the r / s. And tremendously - a public outcry was created.
    Here are the claims - it’s effective!
    In our case, if the descendants of Karbyshev (schools and other institutions named after him) had competently executed and filed lawsuits in large numbers - the womans would have gone around the world!
    Well, the resonance ...
    To do this, you need to raise a topic in your blogs, forums!
  42. +3
    4 May 2013 13: 54
    incorrect comparison - but - as in the engine - "a good knock will always come out." So this has already come out - the degradation of you and me. Yes, not them, but you and me, and take off together. I see no reason to say that I am “white and fluffy” (and I’m not even going to grimace that “I don’t watch a zombie box” - because we are the same in it) - so here everyone will say - for some reason, separately, everything is so, that's just our society is degrading in terms of moral principles.
  43. +1
    4 May 2013 13: 54
    Something Vasi71 is not visible))))
    1. +5
      4 May 2013 15: 51
      Quote: T-100
      Something Vasi71 is not visible))))

      Mabut URGENTLY changes NICK, Avatar and computer at the same time laughing
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  45. ed65b
    +3
    4 May 2013 15: 23
    Vasya 71 may himself understood that he was wrong, wrote without thinking, about TNT there are questions and complaints, welcome to their website and ... no problems. On May 9, I will drink for my grandfathers of my victims and commemorate the fallen at the memorial and sing my favorite song in full throat of Victory Day.
    Glory to the Fallen for the Independence of My country.
  46. +5
    4 May 2013 16: 24
    I advise you to watch the video in the topic!
  47. 0
    4 May 2013 16: 57
  48. cool.ya-nikola
    +3
    4 May 2013 16: 59
    Quote: wulf66
    Article plus! I am not against jokes per se ...

    As I understand it, the article that you can not mock the memory of fallen heroes! And all of a sudden around this, in my opinion, indisputable truth, some strange discussions and, moreover, Shakespearean passions began to unfold.

    Quote: zvereok
    Laughter is a positive emotion that prolongs life!

    Well, who would argue !? Does this mean that you can laugh at anything, and anywhere, even at a funeral?
    No way the ghost of General Karbyshev wintered with a cold winter ...

    The next masterpiece, one should have expected that either about Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya or about Gastello?
    Well, it is impossible, it is not accepted, to somehow dance on the graves, no matter how "positive emotions prolonging life", it may cause!
    And, instead of discussing the article, we got an analysis of the personality of the author, Valery (esaul), it turned out that he did not watch the channels either, and he was not entirely patriotic, and much more. Much has been learned about the villain Mikhalkov. In the end, we witnessed the "battle of the titans", or "showdown of the marshals", the essence of which, in my unenlightened opinion, boiled down to "who writes on the wall higher." Sad gentlemen! ...
    Quote: Egoza
    Maybe you can write a letter of indignation at such blasphemy on behalf of the entire VO site? I am sure everyone will subscribe, and send this letter to all newspapers.

    Ah, for this - with both hands FOR! ...
    1. 0
      7 May 2013 12: 39
      But this is already called pull out a piece of the phrase and turn everything inside out. The whole phrase: I am not against jokes as such ... But mockery is also disgusting as such. This performance, (the word show, like English, has already filled the mark) I have nothing but a strong sense of disgust.
      It is clear that I want to say something smart, but to do it at the expense of others ...
  49. +3
    4 May 2013 17: 37
    Greetings to all members of the forum!
    Let me express my thoughts too ...
    Our TV is the same powerful media, which by definition has always been and is controlled by the state.
    And it is not at all about specific channels and their programs. Look at the root.
    If we know about what we are "fed", then the first persons also know it, don't they?
    Hence the conclusion - it means it is beneficial to someone.
    To whom, the question is interesting, but even more interesting - why?
    1. +5
      4 May 2013 17: 47
      Quote: Samsebenum
      oh, the question is interesting, but even more interesting - why?

      Maybe this text will clarify something

      The war will end, everything will somehow settle down, settle down. And we will give up everything that we have - all the gold, all the material power to fool and fool the Russians.
      The human brain, the minds of people are capable of change. Having sowed chaos, we quietly replace their values ​​with fake ones and make them believe in these fake values. How? We will find our like-minded people, our allies in Russia itself. Episode after episode will be played out with a grandiose scale tragedy of the death of the most rebellious people on earth, the final, irreversible fading of their self-consciousness. For example, we will gradually erase their social essence from literature and art, wean the artists, discourage them from engaging in image ... research, perhaps, of the processes that occur in the depths of the masses. Literature, theaters, cinema - everything will depict and glorify the most base human feelings. We will do our best to support and raise the so-called artists who will instill and hammer into the human mind the cult of sex, violence, sadism, betrayal - in a word, all immorality. In government, we will create chaos and confusion. We will imperceptibly, but actively and constantly promote tyranny of officials, bribe takers, unscrupulousness. Bureaucracy and red tape will be elevated to virtue. Honesty and decency will be ridiculed and will not be needed by anyone, will turn into a relic of the past. Rudeness and arrogance, lies and deceit, drunkenness and drug addiction, animal fear of each other and shamelessness, betrayal, nationalism and enmity of peoples, primarily enmity and hatred of the Russian people - we will all cultivate this cleverly and inconspicuously, it will blossom in a double color . And only a few, very few will guess or even understand what is happening. But we will put such people in a helpless position, turn them into a laughing stock, find a way to slander them and declare them to be the scum of society. We will dig up spiritual roots, vulgarize and destroy the foundations of popular morality. We will shatter thus, generation after generation. We will take on people from childhood, youth, we will always place the main emphasis on young people, we will begin to corrupt, corrupt, and corrupt it. We will make of them cynics, vulgarities, cosmopolitans.
      1. +4
        4 May 2013 18: 21
        crocodile25

        Thanks, buddy!
        This is what I had in mind, but I wanted our people to think about it on their own.
        Although brain swapping is already visible ...
        1. +1
          4 May 2013 19: 05
          Quote: Samsebenum
          Thanks, buddy!

          Yes there is nothing drinks
      2. Oleg Rosskiyy
        0
        5 May 2013 01: 15
        Russia urgently needs a new iron curtain and quarantine from these sewage pouring on us from the western garbage, but this must be done by our Russian people, in every family.
        1. +1
          5 May 2013 10: 26
          Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
          Russia urgently needs a new iron curtain and quarantine, from these sewage pouring on us from the western garbage

          I agree, but put a minus for the further statement:
          Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
          ... this must be done by our Russian people themselves, in every family.

          How do you imagine isolating the family from the corrupting influence of the media? Go to the taiga? Or total every minute control of children at home, on the street, at school? It's real? Do they lie ... It is much easier to restore censorship in the media and on TV that existed under the USSR. But our politicians, unfortunately, have a thin gut on this, for they act with an eye on what the West will say. And the position of the West is well known - traditional cries about the lack of publicity, freedom of speech and the violation of human rights.
          1. Oleg Rosskiyy
            0
            5 May 2013 23: 59
            It turns out that restoring censorship is not easy either, one thing is left to pay more attention to your children and to protect them from television and Internet chernukha, and to blame the upbringing of your children on the state, we will get new human semi-finished products, like the generation of the 90s. Everything is in our hands, the main thing is to overpower ourselves, and stick out less in front of the zombies, then the result may not be long in coming. The only question is whether we need it or not, I decided for myself that for me and mine children it is vital not to degrade in moral monsters.
    2. +3
      4 May 2013 18: 47
      not my thoughts, but I agree with them:
      people gradually develop "immunity of trust"
      - Newspapers appeared, people began to confidently refer to them as a source of truth - after all, "they wrote in the newspaper" - gradually trust came to a minimum;
      - then radio - similarly "said on the radio" - a powerful argument,
      - then television - "they showed it on TV - I saw it myself" - 100% true, but time passed and especially "proud" and "sagacious" called TV - "zombie",
      - the era of the Internet has come - in my opinion the zomboy is worse, but it is still probably at the maximum of trust - just these two factors - zombie + trust - have even brought to the concept of "tweeter revolution" (it seems about Egypt)
      About the Internet - I already extrapolated the statements of one expert on fooling
    3. 0
      4 May 2013 20: 18
      Quote: Samsebenum
      If we know about what we are "fed", then the first persons also know it, don't they?

      But to the first persons and send such a letter. I don’t know how you are doing with GDP, but with us all the first persons have started a Facebook page, and they really respond or take measures. Azarov, at least for sure. Well, maybe the president of the Russian Federation and do not want to send, but if in parallel with such letters to the first persons on facebook, but to the newspapers ... maybe it would be good. IMHO, of course
  50. +1
    4 May 2013 17: 47
    The author of the article "leafing through" the channels came across one, the majority of programs of which are intended for people with a low level of education, whose vital interest is limited. People like those who performed on the stage, of those who call our country "rashka", rejoice at the performances of the little things and wonder why they were punished. By the way, it should be alarming that programs with such "cultural" content are available for every age category. I cut off my antenna so that the kids inadvertently wouldn't watch cartoons on this channel.
    1. +4
      4 May 2013 18: 29
      Dimy4
      I agree.
      But the programs should be developing, patriotic and interesting.
      A benchmark for base products gives rise to the same society.
      Therefore, all my complaints in this matter are only to the leadership of the country.
      1. +2
        4 May 2013 22: 24
        Quote: Samsebenum
        Therefore, all my complaints in this matter are only to the leadership of the country.

        Greetings, Valery.
        I wonder who the author of the article claims? To the performers. It was they who perverted the will of the Radiant;
        "And the culprit is the general.
        Intriguer and immoral.
        This is it, the cow's face.
        The tsar's honor was frozen. "
        And they are the fifth column and the swamp orangery.
        How competently we (well, not all of course) are led by the nose.
      2. +2
        5 May 2013 10: 27
        Quote: Samsebenum
        Therefore, all my complaints in this matter are only to the leadership of the country.

        But this is true! +
  51. Ruslan_F38
    +3
    4 May 2013 18: 40
    There are sacred things that no one is allowed to mock. If, due to our tolerance, we justify this on screens and in life, we thereby lose ourselves, our identity, our genetic code - is it really not clear? And it doesn’t matter what channel or newspaper it is, such things must be stopped publicly with a public explanation of the reasons, and this is not censorship. After all, you can go far this way, today they laughed at Karbyshev, tomorrow they remained silent when modern youth draws swastikas and organizes dances at the eternal flame, and after tomorrow they already passed by a child who is being raped, then more and everything for the sake of modernity, because life does not stand still, need to move. And then you see, the Motherland was sold because it no longer matters where it is, this Motherland, the main thing is for how much! I give the article a big plus, the author raised issues that need not be talked about, but shouted about!
  52. +1
    4 May 2013 18: 44
    Comedy Club is definitely a vulgar and mean-spirited show; this is not the first time these “artists” have made such “jokes.” But one quote struck me from the author: “So the women gave warm clothes to the German soldiers because they didn’t have winter uniforms.” And when I asked my grandmother: “How is this possible? They are fascists, enemies!” The grandmother answered: “Well, don’t they have a mother? Do you think she doesn’t feel sorry for her son?” In my opinion, that kind grandmother helped send an extra bullet to her Fedenka and prolonged the war, at least for a couple of moments.
    1. +2
      4 May 2013 22: 00
      Quote: Pushkar
      I scraped one quote from the author:

      It so happened that instead of the author, I am answering you. This story is told by me, about my grandmother. Perhaps I could not clearly explain the essence of this story, or maybe you did not want to understand. I'll try to clarify what was discussed. And it was about how our people, from time immemorial, have had the ability to separate evil. Yes, evil does not cease to be evil, but prepared and calculated evil is one scenario, evil committed through thoughtlessness or stupidity is another, evil committed against one’s own will is another. But the retribution for different versions of evil is also different. Let's reduce everything to a primitive everyday level - it will be clearer. For example, someone tortures a kitten and it gives him pleasure - option of evil No. 1. The second one accidentally ran over a kitten with a car - option No. 2. The third drowned the kitten so that he himself would not be drowned - option No. 3. There is a difference? But the kitten suffers no matter what, he doesn’t care about the reasons... And my grandmother treated the young German soldiers with pity, realizing that it was not of their own desire that they ended up in their village. Just like our soldiers in Afghanistan. They follow orders! But all of us would probably approve of such a story if the Afghan woman took pity on our soldier and did not let him die. But from the point of view of the Afghans, she would be a traitor... This is the fine line I wanted to talk about... But you were inattentive to my text itself - my grandmother at that time already knew that her son was missing.
  53. Vtel
    +3
    4 May 2013 20: 01
    These diapers will continue to crawl out and test our immunity for strength. The point is that the country lives without a real ideology - Orthodox, therefore everything is allowed, who you ask? Yes, our liberal elite, LADIES, once broadcast on a program that the Comedy Club are cool guys. And the entire top of the media is doing the work of the West in bringing our youth to stupefaction, so it’s not difficult for non-believers to be hooked on this drain from the West: Action Movies, Women’s Issues, UFOs, Sorcerers, Star Factories, Comedy Club, Big Dances, etc. . And no weak grandmothers are pouring in there to make it impossible for our youth to distinguish truth from bullshit, so the Etrosyans, Sadoronovs and other laughers are trying, ridiculing our people, because they themselves are Non-Russians. And the recent attack on the brothers from Ukraine - kosher Urgant.
  54. 0
    4 May 2013 20: 18
    Some people don’t like Petrosyan, some don’t like some of the comedy - but when they propose to introduce censorship on humor... maybe this is too much, dear ones? The same comedians in the same USA say a lot of things that they won’t say on more than one channel - the same late George Carlin as an example

    If you don’t want to perceive humor, change the channel, and don’t try to impose your point of view on this issue on people
    1. 0
      4 May 2013 20: 47
      For me, too, for example, freedom always comes first in life. And often a free opinion costs itself more. But there must be some kind of borders? USA? The last clown there puts his hand to his heart at the sound of the anthem. Maybe they have programs where they laugh over this? I don’t recognize Petrosyan either, but tell me, how would you react if your father was mentioned in such a context? Imagine-the chilling ghost of Father Oleg, Sanya, Igor appeared...are you normal? if you would take this for humor, having buried your father? freedom of speech and opinion? and how do you feel about fags? speak out on their position on legalization and freedom? like if you don’t want to see leaky ones, change the channel, don’t go out, don’t live, kill yourself? They’re not the only ones who want freedom and democracy, by the way
    2. 0
      5 May 2013 05: 48
      humor is witty jokes, and not a vulgar joke about a Hero of the Great Patriotic War tortured by the Nazis. Then there are some obscene ones......, the evil one knows them himself.
  55. xan
    +2
    4 May 2013 20: 57
    My granny neighbor at my dacha plows like a bulldozer, my wife and I don’t even dream of getting close to her level. She was under occupation in the Novgorod region. She says that her family survived thanks to a compassionate German soldier. But despite this, he cannot stand the Germans, and cannot forgive them for the occupation; he is still angry to the point of fury. A couple of years ago, my sister came from Germany with her German husband, knowing the neighbor, she didn’t dare bring them to the dacha, she could have gone on the attack or trained for something else - she wouldn’t rust.
    You can't beat a granny like that.
    1. 0
      4 May 2013 22: 00
      Quote: xan
      You can't beat a grandma like that

      Welcome hi And, in addition to all their militancy, our grannies have a breadth of soul and warmth of heart that the West cannot even think about. Remember yesterday’s comment from Tverichka! good
      1. 0
        4 May 2013 23: 32
        Quote: esaul
        And, in addition to all their combativeness, our grannies have a breadth of soul and warmth of heart that the West cannot even think of

        Speaking of our grandmothers!

        A friend told me about this real incident.

        Once, a grandmother in a village near Volgograd, while digging up a vegetable garden, came across something that looked like a bomb. She called her neighbors and they, fearing that it was most likely an unexploded shell from the Great Patriotic War, called sappers.
        The sappers arrived quite quickly. Grandma met them at the gate. Well, show me what you have here, the sappers asked. To the surprise of the sappers, the grandmother led them not somewhere to the garden, but to the house. In the house, in the center of the dining table, on a clean festive tablecloth, the freaked out sappers saw an unexploded shell washed to a mirror shine...
        When, after a few minutes, one of the sappers managed to pick up his slack jaw and stammered: “Uh, mistress... How is this? Uh, why are you doing this?! Uh, why is this on the table?!”, the grandmother, putting her hands on her hips, said: “We, my dear, are not accustomed to giving dirty things to people! So, on all honors, I WASHED your crap thoroughly, so you can take it now!
        What these sappers felt and in what terms did they think about whom while they were taking away the cleanly washed bomb from the grandmother, and then detonating it (and it EXPLODED!) history is silent...
    2. Skunk
      -1
      8 May 2013 00: 35
      Do you think this is normal?
  56. +1
    4 May 2013 22: 05
    An interesting article, and man is right, how many people are brainwashed by Hollywood films and such people do not like everything Russian, in particular art, history.
  57. yur
    yur
    +1
    4 May 2013 22: 17
    Quote: VDV 80-82
    died for the motherland !!! without separating scoundrels from normal people! Alexander, be gentle to people, the more they are still very young

    Dear, what does it mean to be very young? For example, at the age of 20 I commanded a platoon, having clear concepts of what is good and what is bad, what you can laugh at, joke about, and what you cannot touch even in your thoughts, let alone with dirty language. I am sure that they are just as moral You had and still have guidelines. So why are these 30-35 year old “mares” and their shabby “gelding” not able to answer for their antics? And about censorship, I think this way: censorship is bad, but without it it’s worse.
  58. cool.ya-nikola
    +2
    4 May 2013 22: 17
    Quote: krokodil25
    Maybe this text will clarify something

    Bravo, Genady! I would force schoolchildren to study this quote from the unforgettable Allen Dulles, so that no one would have any illusions about our “pale-faced brothers”! Excellent, and in an intelligible form, it is stated what these same “partners” of ours want us to be, and what their strategic task is! If Dulles is not enough for someone, read Brzezhinski, Madeleine Albright, perhaps after this you should not be surprised and indignant about television programs, all kinds of “enticing shows”, and supposedly “stupid” clauses and dubious jokes that have already become mandatory attributes, unfortunately many TV channels! Simply, the notorious “Dulles plan” is being implemented, that’s all!
    We will tear out spiritual roots, vulgarize and destroy the foundations of folk morality
    We will shatter thus, generation after generation. We will take on people from childhood, youthful years, we will always place the main stake on youth, we will begin to corrupt, corrupt, corrupt it. We will make cynics, vulgarities, cosmopolitans out of them.

    Well, for the rest, of course, they only wish us “good”, and sincerely cannot understand why the hell these Russians don’t want to accept and join “world culture” and “universal human values”?
  59. +1
    4 May 2013 22: 21
    Of course, the management of the TV channel, the editor and the author of the text are responsible for such a “joke”.
    Will the author of the article go to court? Will he demand a public apology from the TV channel administration?
  60. and she
    +2
    4 May 2013 23: 56
    I’m afraid that the ladies who said this simply didn’t know who General Karbyshev was. How the editors of the program and all the people in charge didn’t know the name of this hero. So our wonderful Fursenka and Kazminov, and Livanov to boot, who with their ideas brought school and education to the Unified State Exam and such a nightmare, should have kicked their ass.
  61. +2
    5 May 2013 00: 09
    what do you want from entertainment channels, army jokes)), this is a commercial channel TNT, adults don’t watch it, and today’s youth don’t give a fuck about content and subtext, they stupidly click on the channels, watched and forgot, don’t become harsh chupacabras)) not everyone seems to bad on Russian television, by the way, one of the most authoritative magazines in the film world, Hollywood Reporter, is now being squeezed out by ours, “edited” by Mikhalkov))
    and normal projects are being prepared for the fall
  62. German
    +1
    5 May 2013 02: 53
    Respect to the author! a huge plus! and to everyone who holds the same opinion, too! People who do not remember and disrespect their past have no future, as some smart person said!
  63. gggif
    0
    5 May 2013 03: 03
    Christ is risen! Don’t watch TV, ignore stupid school kids, constantly re-read Psalm 1.
    1. SSR
      0
      5 May 2013 22: 16
      Quote: gggif
      Don't watch TV ignore the foolish schoolboy, Re-read Psalm 1 regularly.

      um.. I don’t even know.... I watch TV.. in order to “find out”, the Internet to “perceive”, but I don’t see constantly re-reading what I already “should” learn by heart.. “wisdom”.. excuse me please.. but minus my.
  64. +2
    5 May 2013 04: 09
    What happened in “Comedy Woman” is not a thoughtless mistake, but part of a purposeful action. Such spitting on our history is made regularly, on almost all entertainment channels, the STS channel is especially zealous in this. Almost everything on these channels is designed to demoralize our youth. Take a closer look at the screensavers, at the staging of the projects themselves, be it a performance or a television series, listen to the lines. Everywhere there is belittlement and ridicule of family values, culture and education, all kinds of denigration of history, and that’s not all. But the most important thing is that all this is not covered up by anything, all evil spirits are shown directly on the screens, thereby claiming the right to truth. Is this really democracy or the notorious tolerance? Where are the authorities looking? Where are public figures looking?
  65. 0
    6 May 2013 09: 39
    If you remove OHI-AHI and HI-HI from these Comedies... and then go through the text (just not at night) - vulgarity and blackness... no flight of thought.
  66. 0
    7 May 2013 11: 05
    In all this, something else is interesting - some representatives of our youth who watched the episode of Comedy Women - maybe they wanted to find out who General Karbyshev was and why there was a chill in them. Although, of course, such phrases should not be on TV, does no one really monitor the material before it goes on air? Somehow I can’t believe it, otherwise they might spit in the wrong place by mistake, and then you won’t be able to get it back from the owners.
  67. 0
    8 May 2013 07: 27
    I have no words. Only the desire to take grandma’s frying pan, cast iron, heavy, and start nailing the empty heads of these “women,” thus driving in, if not their mind and conscience, then at least fear. So that in future these “women” won’t “joke” like that anymore. am
  68. 0
    8 May 2013 09: 31
    If on the central channels in prime time and generally all the time, you’re running a crapshoot like corrupt cops are killers, they knock down noble bandits, and then the corrupt bandits knock down noble policemen. And then - oh, we have a dismemberment, and now a special officer appears, he generally eats children, etc. What else could you want other than the moral impoverishment of the nation? And also the farting Crooked Mirror, the comedy is resting.
  69. yustas
    0
    8 May 2013 11: 04
    They are creatures without family, honor and dignity, who do not respect themselves and their ancestors...
    There is no Stalin on them!
    Thank you to our grandfathers and great-grandfathers for being us, and we ask forgiveness for not preserving what they fought for.
  70. EDA2000
    +2
    8 May 2013 15: 20
    Where did you get the idea that these are our media? They are no longer ours, they are someone else’s
  71. 0
    9 May 2013 19: 02
    It seems to me that most of the audience of this program do not even know who Karbyshev is.
  72. 0
    10 May 2013 19: 07
    Many of our so-called humorous serials and programs are propaganda of immorality and stupidity. Part of a master plan to destroy us as a nation.
    What can we say here - don’t watch such nonsense, and warn children against watching programs ill-considered.
    While we cannot do more, we will do little...

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