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Central Asia in the US strategy after 2014

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Central Asia in the US strategy after 2014The calculations of the US think tanks, discussions in Congress’s subcommittees and in the press suggest that the United States is looking for a new model of presence in Central Asia after 2014. Some directions for the evolution of Washington’s strategy in the region can already be traced, which are likely to remain relevant in throughout the second term of office of the B. Obama administration.


The shift in foreign policy priorities in the APR and budgetary problems are pushing the United States to curtail its programs in Central Asia. For the first time, the State Department and the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) sharply reduced funding for Central Asian projects in 2011, reducing allocations from 436 to 126 million dollars. In the future, the gradual reduction of expenses, which in 2013, according to the budget request of the State Department to Congress, should amount to 118 million dollars, continued. (reduction by 12% to the level of 2012). Since under the sequestration there were mainly programs of a political, socio-economic and humanitarian nature, we can expect a decrease in the American influence on the internal political processes in the Central Asian republics. It appears, however, that such a decline will occur smoothly. On the one hand, the US Department of Foreign Affairs is taking steps to optimize narrowing budgets, for example, through the extensive use of Internet technologies in diplomatic practice, a less costly but promising tool for mobilizing protest and opposition sentiments. On the other hand, comparable injections into NGOs, the media and other public institutions of Central Asia are carried out by private American foundations and allied European structures, whose grants soften the effect of the falling capabilities of US government agencies.

According to an alternative scenario, the security situation is developing, where Washington, on the contrary, is increasing spending on all sorts of trainings, equipment supplies, information sharing and other interaction with the security and special services of the countries of the region. Only in 2012

The United States (through the Department of State, the Pentagon and the Department of Energy) increased the cost of cooperation with the Central Asian republics in this area immediately by 40% or 60 million dollars. At the end of the year, they amounted to 215 million dollars, which is almost twice the allocations for political and humanitarian initiatives. Interestingly, the increased interest in security issues is also shown by the European Union and personally by the EU Special Representative for Central Asia Patricia Flor, who are developing a new Framework Strategy for the region, replacing the old document expiring in 2013.

Another distinctive feature of the updated US approach to Central Asia is the intensification of military technical contacts. It is through the Department of Defense of the United States today that the main resources are allocated and, presumably, the key decisions are made in the region.

Few people doubt the fact that the Americans will take steps to preserve in Central Asia a large military facility necessary to accompany the Afghan operations, which today is the Transit Transportation Center at the Kyrgyz airport Manas. The base of this class for the United States is not only the most important infrastructure hub through which most of the rank-and-file and especially valuable cargoes are transferred to the Afghan theater of war, but also the closest of the three hop airports producing refueling in the airspace of Afghanistan, and a convenient base for placement of electronic surveillance equipment.

2005’s “tulip revolution” experience shows that in order to preserve Manas, American diplomacy can go for the most serious measures, up to interference in the internal affairs of Kyrgyzstan, where an impressive part of the political establishment is still focused on Washington. In American expert circles, the need to organize the first in stories the visit of the US President to Central Asia with a stop in Bishkek with a view to solving the tasks facing the United States, including the extension of the Manas agreement expiring in July 2014. In this situation, the option of relocating the US military base to previously prepared sites in other republics, one of which, in particular, was established at the Uzbek Navoi airport, reconstructed with the help of South Korean contractors and is currently idle, cannot be ruled out.

There is a high probability that the network of smaller US military facilities will grow: training camps for special forces; multimodal transshipment points for the diversification of transit routes for NATO cargo; warehouses for storing equipment and weapons near the borders of Afghanistan, which can be re-deployed and transferred to the conflict zone in case of aggravation of the situation there (the practice of creating such warehouses was used by the American command in Kuwait during the withdrawal of troops from Iraq to 2011).

At the same time, Tashkent increasingly claims to be the priority military-technical partner of the United States in Central Asia. The main channel of the Northern Supply Network, which supplies the NATO grouping in Afghanistan, passes through the territory of Uzbekistan. The authorities of the republic are negotiating with Washington about the transfer of military equipment withdrawn from the IRA to the Uzbek army, including reconnaissance drones, helicopters and wheeled armored vehicles with enhanced mine protection.

Additionally, Central Asia is increasingly viewed by Americans as an important rear support area. In 2012, Washington immediately increased its supply purchases in the Central Asian republics by increasing the volume to 7 billion dollars, where the main share (1,3 million) fell on the purchase of fuel from Turkmenistan. A similar amount in 820 billion dollars. allocated to 1,3. If, after 2013, the White House does not give up promises to support the current leadership of the IRA, it will only need an average of $ 2014 million each year to provide fuel and lubricants to the Afghan National Army. or 555 billion dollars. during 2,8-2014 Given the shortage of petroleum products in Afghanistan and problems with their imports from neighboring countries, the Turkmenbashi refinery in Turkmenistan will probably remain a significant source of fuel for Americans in the near future.

In general, the current surge of military-technical cooperation between America and the Central Asian countries is associated with the intensification of actions in Afghanistan, so its prospects will largely depend on the development of the situation south of the Amu Darya, including the success of the Pashtun insurgency and the retention of power in Kabul by the government loyal to the West.

As for the US economic policy in Central Asia, most likely, it will, as before, be aimed at solving three main tasks - gaining access to Caspian hydrocarbons, weakening strategic rivals represented by Moscow and Beijing, economic stabilization of Afghanistan and reducing its dependence from external grants.

The current commercial interests of US companies are focused on Central Asia's oil resources, whose proven reserves range from 2,5-3% of the world total. Accordingly, the situation will remain when investments in the oil sector of Kazakhstan (29 billion dollars over 1993-2009) will significantly exceed US investments in all other countries and sectors of the region combined (the next Uzbekistan on the list for 2009) 500 million dollars.). At the same time, according to forecasts, Astana’s desire to revise oil concessions of 1990-s under pressure from fiscal and environmental claims, as well as the geographical isolation of the region, the raw materials from which have to be delivered to Western markets through the Russian pipeline system, will be a serious problem.

On this basis, the United States will continue lobbying the so-called. "Southern energy corridor" bypassing the territory of Russia. But opposition to the construction of pipelines under the Caspian will push them to concentrate mainly on creating the western section of this corridor between Azerbaijan and Turkey, which in June 2012, mediated by Washington, signed an agreement on laying the Trans-Anatolian gas pipeline to 2017.

The economic program of the New Silk Road, announced by the State Department in the summer of 2011 and designed to create infrastructure between Central and South Asia and Afghanistan, as well as to liberalize trade between them, is designed for the long term. Although within the framework of the New Silk Road, the United States has been successful in implementing a number of local projects (several highways, bridges, power lines and railway lines from Uzbekistan to Mazar-i-Sharif), the prospects for large-scale interregional communications, such as the TAPI gas pipeline and CASA-1000, are foggy. Their “incarnation in the metal” is hampered by the unsafe route through Afghanistan, the high cost, the uncertainty around the raw material base, the tensions of potential buyers and transit countries for raw materials, as well as the alternative offers of Iran and China. Nevertheless, the White House will probably not abandon projects whose promotion promises a decline in Russian and Chinese influence in Central Asia, a further isolation of Iran, and opening of access to the gas resources of the Caspian region.

The new Silk Road is also still ephemeral, but still a potential competitor of the Eurasian Union. The latter in Washington is increasingly seen as a mechanism for strengthening the position of the Kremlin in the post-Soviet space. From here, he will be subject to increasing discredit from the West. It is expected that, as a counterweight, the Americans are forcing the process of accession of the countries of the region to the WTO under conditions that complicate their subsequent accession to the legal framework of the CU and CES.

In conclusion, it should be noted that forecasting the future strategy of the United States in Central Asia is greatly complicated by the presence of many uncertainties, including the development of the situation in Afghanistan, a possible attempt to forcefully shift the Iranian government, a new phase of the global financial and economic crisis, a change of heads of state in Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan and etc. Obviously one thing - the region will remain the scene of a clash of interests of the leading world powers - Russia, the United States and China.
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  1. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 3 May 2013 15: 50
    10
    Yankees, go home !!!
    So far, only hints: winked
    1.
    23 April
    Up to 50 US helicopters in Afghanistan are severely damaged by a hail storm.

    As many as 50 US and coalition military helicopters were badly damaged during a hail in Afghanistan at the Kandahar airfield this week.

    The damage was so serious that helicopters were suspended from flight until they were repaired.

    The storm passed through southern Afghanistan 23 April.

    http://warfiles.ru/show-29753-shtorm-s-gradom-proshedshiy-v-afganistane-serezno-





    2.
    NATO Air Force crashes in eastern Afghanistan.

    Kabul. 4 April. INTERFAX.RU - Aircraft of the Air Force of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan crashed in the east of this country, as a result of which the pilot died, the ISAF communique published on Thursday said.

    The plane crashed on Thursday night, but information about the crash came only a few hours later.

    According to ISAF, an investigation is currently underway and the reasons for the crash are being established.

    The communiqué notes that "at the time of the crash, rebels were seen in the area." ISAF officials did not specify exactly where the crash occurred. The nationality of the pilot has not yet been reported.

    Meanwhile, a spokesman for the radical Taliban, Zabiula Mujahid, said in an interview with the local AIP news agency that on Thursday night, rebels shot down a NATO plane in Kabul province. "The ISAF cordoned off the area (crashes - IF), which is why we could not get data on the number of victims," ​​he said.

    http://www.interfax.ru/world/news.asp?id=299588


    3.

    US Air Force crashes on the border of Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan
    BISHKEK, 3 May - RIA News. The operational management of the Ministry of Emergencies of Kyrgyzstan in the Chui region confirmed information about the crash of an American tanker aircraft in the area of ​​the village of Chaldovar on the border of Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan.


    “Yes, the plane crashed,” RIA Novosti said on Friday the operational duty department. “A task force left for the scene, which will provide information, we don’t know the exact place of the fall,” he added.

    Earlier it was reported that the Ministry of Emergency Situations of Kyrgyzstan is checking information about the disappearance from the radar of a tanker aircraft of the US Air Force, flying out on Friday from the air base at the international airport of Kyrgyzstan Manas.

    The United States Air Base, later renamed the Transit Center, was established at Bishkek Airport in December 2001 and provides about 30% of the total air refueling of coalition aircraft participating in Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. The agreement on the deployment of the US air base in Kyrgyzstan is valid until 2014.

    http://news.mail.ru/incident/12972835/?frommail=1
    1. Russian
      Russian 3 May 2013 16: 06
      11
      Mdaa, everything becomes more and more alarming and alarming near our borders.
      In general, to prohibit the transfer of money earned in our country to these CIS countries and put an ultimatum: there is no presence of NATO forces, and they will have nothing left but to put up with, they have half the budget, this is our money. And we don’t know how to get money to earn money with us, and we don’t know anything, not to mention the level of education and culture of these visitors!
      1. Siberian
        Siberian 3 May 2013 17: 31
        +2
        Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
        Mdaa, everything becomes more and more alarming and alarming near our borders.
        In general, to prohibit the transfer of money earned in our country to these CIS countries and put an ultimatum: there is no presence of NATO forces, and they will have nothing left but to put up with, they have half the budget, this is our money. And we don’t know how to get money to earn money with us, and we don’t know anything, not to mention the level of education and culture of these visitors!


        so what's the problem? Close borders, enter visas. If you make the right decision in chocolate, if you make the wrong one in a substance similar to chocolate ... The main thing is to think first and then do it.
      2. starshina78
        starshina78 3 May 2013 19: 43
        0
        I'm afraid Russia has defended Central Asia, like Georgia, Moldova, and Azerbaijan at one time. Uzbekistan and Karimov are already under the Americans, Tajikistan is trying to do something there in order to bargain for itself a free regime for migrant workers, the Kyrgyz are with us so far, and the Turkmens themselves are sitting on the gas and are happy.
      3. ozs
        ozs 3 May 2013 20: 37
        +1
        Yes, but before dictating conditions to these puppet states, we need to stop hosting NATO's infrastructure. And then how it turns out stupid, we want the neighbors not to let NATO in, but they themselves let them into Ulyanovsk and other "partnerships for the sake of peace"
    2. aksakal
      aksakal 3 May 2013 16: 24
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      Quote: GreatRussia
      NATO Air Force crashes in eastern Afghanistan.

      - the most interesting thing is that everything you listed is the result of natural disasters laughing laughing And in the style of "A la professor". But I don’t understand what kind of hail is it that damages combat helicopters to nothing? Or amers made of cardboard helicopters? Or is the hail the same hail that is in service with Russia? Somehow during the hostilities by the Americans in the area of ​​the hostilities, natural disasters sharply increase, leading to large losses of American military equipment laughing Those who resist have nothing to do with it, they really do not know how to resist, and there is nothing to resist, they only have Russian weapons on their hands, it’s like zero without a wand, and therefore Mother Nature herself defends them. And for some reason, quite successfully laughing
      By Sabzh: At the same time, Astana’s projection is likely to be a serious problem for Astana’s desire to review the 1990s oil concessions under pressure from fiscal and environmental claims. - there is such, but somehow very long and dreary. Pull and pull, all in no way extended. Whether it’s Putin’s business, he got to the bottom of Shtokman, denounced the PSA (production sharing agreement) and kicked these cunning guys from Russia. And right away, Russia switched from IMF loan seekers to lenders, which I wish Ukraine with its potential. And ours all in any way - ((((((.
      change of heads of state in Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan, etc. - try, amers. Let's see what burns out laughing Kazakhstan is not Syria, but a much more allied state of Russia, and China does not smile at its soft ass to get a pro-pro-government in Kazakhstan. Too many CIA employees on staff? We can reduce your staff significantly
      1. Nicholas C.
        Nicholas C. 3 May 2013 16: 46
        +6
        Quote: aksakal
        Kazakhstan is not Syria, but a much more allied state of Russia, and China does not smile at its soft ass to get a pro-pro-government in Kazakhstan

        I envy your optimism. However, amers must be squeezed out here and now. From business, from NGOs, from everything else. At least the way Putin does it. Otherwise, it will turn out as in folk wisdom: "A claw is tied - the whole bird is lost."
      2. Army1
        Army1 3 May 2013 18: 01
        0
        I also think that not one storm is to blame
        1. GreatRussia
          GreatRussia 3 May 2013 19: 13
          0
          Quote: Army1
          I also think that not one storm is to blame

          smile



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    4. Kaa
      Kaa 3 May 2013 18: 54
      +6
      Quote: GreatRussia
      Up to 50 US helicopters in Afghanistan are severely damaged by a hail storm.
      Something I misunderstood, well, "Grad" beat - it's understandable, but the water cannon "Storm" to do with ?! “Storm based on KamAZ-536053 can do a lot more than its German counterpart. What should a modern water cannon be able to do?
      ... A jet machine of this type is equipped with two carriages - lower and upper. The upper one, located on the roof, is, in fact, the cannon for dispersing rallies: its pressure is 11-12 atm. Moreover, the Mercedes engine (the pumping unit is driven from a separate power unit located in the rear of the car) can "accelerate" water up to 15 atm and is equipped with a factory limiter for safety reasons. The gun can fire in several modes: in short or long bursts and continuously. The lower gun carriage has approximately half the power and is designed for fire extinguishing. In addition, if the crowd gets too close, it can also be used during acceleration. "Http://www.popmech.ru/article/12036-vodyanoy-udar/
      NO, WELL LOOKING THREATENING BUT WHO WHO SUCH THE TECHNIQUE AND WHY DELIVERED TO THE TALIBAN? THAT, MLRS DOES NOT ENOUGH TO PAMPER WITH WATER ???? laughing request : lol
  2. dc120mm
    dc120mm 3 May 2013 16: 16
    +8
    Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
    Yankees, go home !!!

    Eeeh, they do not leave painlessly.
    1. Retx
      Retx 3 May 2013 16: 26
      +1
      And they will be helped wink
      1. dc120mm
        dc120mm 3 May 2013 18: 39
        +3
        Quote: RETX
        And they will be helped

        Yes, but the pain is left
  3. Retx
    Retx 3 May 2013 16: 17
    +6
    Central Asian countries are basically political sluts, or rather the ruling elite. They care only about their bank account, not citizens. For the sake of this, they are ready to spread the legs of any country with a cache. And Russia is so, a workplace for the population. Zhirinovsky said everything correctly, soon their rulers will be hung on poles and unfaithful guts from the south will be wound onto the fence by the infidels. Here the wallets will not even do anything, there is Russia, always, will help ...
  4. treskoed
    treskoed 3 May 2013 16: 18
    -2
    The United States was burned in Libya, Iran, and Afghanistan, so an overly dense presence in Central Asia is hardly possible.
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 3 May 2013 17: 07
      +3
      They didn’t burn anything there! They DID what they wanted there: they ignited civil wars, plunged the countries into CHAOS, so that they could get what they needed “on the cheap” on the ruins of these countries. Yes, and for one thing, and Russia to help ... both in the political sphere and in the field of trade.
  5. Canep
    Canep 3 May 2013 16: 31
    0
    Americans love to dream. Unlikely, without taking into account the views of Kazakhstan, all this is possible, and the presence of Kazakhstan was not even mentioned. Kazakhs with Uzbeks have not the best relations, and not a single entrepreneur (unless of course he receives heroin from Afghanistan for himself) will pump oil through Afghanistan.
    1. Blackky
      Blackky 3 May 2013 16: 52
      -3
      Quote: Canep
      Americans dream like

      Only unlike some, they realize their dreams.
      1. Canep
        Canep 3 May 2013 17: 02
        0
        They just said in the news that on the border of Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan, KS-135 crashed - this is probably the embodiment of their dreams.
        1. Blackky
          Blackky 3 May 2013 17: 03
          +2
          Uneducable as well. Obamovki grunted and let's hit the planes.
          1. Canep
            Canep 3 May 2013 17: 11
            +4
            Obamovka get drunk and break the stratotanker, this is the American dream that came true in Central Asia, but it’s interesting that there were a hundred tons in the tanks of the plane? There is not a word about this in the news.
            1. Canep
              Canep 3 May 2013 18: 02
              0
              kerosene in tanks was 90 tons judging by the news.
              1. albai
                albai 4 May 2013 15: 05
                0
                The search for the body of the third pilot KS-135 and the black box continues. This was reported to 24.kg by the Ministry of Emergencies of the Kyrgyz Republic.

                According to officials, the search will continue until the evening. The remains of the bodies of two crew members, discovered earlier, were transferred to Manas.

                The KS-135 tanker plane of the Transit Center crashed on May 3 at about 14.30 pm in the Panfilov district of Kyrgyzstan. The aircraft disappeared from the radar screens a few minutes after departure from Bishkek. The aircraft was heading to Afghanistan to support the military operations there.

                According to local residents, the plane caught fire in the air, and then exploded. The tanker fell into three parts, its wreckage was discovered about 80 kilometers west of the capital, near the border with Kazakhstan, they are scattered over a large area between the villages of Chorgolu and Cholok-Aryk.
      2. Canep
        Canep 3 May 2013 17: 03
        0
        And who blew his eye and thinned his teeth?
        1. Blackky
          Blackky 3 May 2013 17: 08
          0
          Scoops, someone else.
          1. Canep
            Canep 3 May 2013 17: 13
            +1
            I’m sorry, I had to follow the bazaar.
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 3 May 2013 17: 14
            +3
            Quote: Blackky
            Scoops, someone else.

            Oh, and I think it’s on the shitty site. Now I see from whom it carries.
            1. Beck
              Beck 4 May 2013 15: 18
              0
              And what kind of noise?

              The United States sent troops to Afghanistan, to ensure the supply of troops needed transshipment transit points - Manas, Ulyanovsk, Aktau. So that the authorities of the countries where these points were located more willingly gave their consent to the State Department and increased assistance in various areas.

              In 2014, the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan is planned. The need for transshipment points will disappear, and therefore US assistance is declining. After the withdrawal of troops, US interest in the Central Asian region will decrease significantly and significantly.
      3. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 3 May 2013 17: 12
        +8
        Quote: Blackky
        Only unlike some, they realize their dreams.

        Mostly pyrostic content:




        US multi-billion dollar reconstruction program fails

        The 10-year war in Iraq cost the American taxpayers nearly $ 800 billion, but the effectiveness of such costs raises serious doubts. The situation in the country can hardly be called peaceful and stable. The United States' small advances in establishing democracy and transforming the republic raise a host of questions for George W. Bush, the initiator of the military intervention, as well as for Barack Obama, who continued to incur costs. These are the findings of the report prepared for the US Congress by Stuart Bowen, special inspector for affairs restoration of Iraq. Since the invasion of the republic, the United States has spent too much on achieving such a small result.

        http://russian.rt.com/article/5264

        The White House officially recognized that the new government in Iraq rests solely on bayonets

        http://forum-msk.org/material/news/311835.html


        The Pentagon has admitted failure in the fight against al-Qaeda.
        http://www.afghanistan.ru/doc/55280.html


        Taliban and US resume negotiations
        http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1051794
        1. Blackky
          Blackky 3 May 2013 17: 14
          0
          And not one normal source. Do you yourself believe murzilk?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 3 May 2013 17: 16
            +2
            Quote: Blackky
            And not one normal source

            Throw off the normal source, honor your nonsense wink
            1. Blackky
              Blackky 3 May 2013 17: 42
              0
              http://www.army.mil/news/
              http://www.marines.mil/News.aspx
              http://www.af.mil/news/index.asp
              http://www.navy.mil/
              http://www.isaf.nato.int/news/4.html
              1. GreatRussia
                GreatRussia 3 May 2013 17: 48
                +5
                Quote: Blackky
                http://www.army.mil/news/
                http://www.marines.mil/News.aspx
                http://www.af.mil/news/index.asp
                http://www.navy.mil/
                http://www.isaf.nato.int/news/4.html

                And why then there is no information about hundreds of thousands of homeless veterans of the US Army?
                1. Blackky
                  Blackky 3 May 2013 17: 49
                  0
                  Because these are the fantasies of journalists?
                  1. GreatRussia
                    GreatRussia 3 May 2013 17: 58
                    +2
                    Quote: Blackky
                    Because these are the fantasies of journalists?

                    A photoshop video frames and crafts?

                    Would not be dishonored.
                    1. Blackky
                      Blackky 3 May 2013 17: 59
                      0
                      Quote: GreatRussia
                      A photoshop video frames and crafts?

                      The converse is not proven.
              2. Canep
                Canep 3 May 2013 17: 50
                +3
                The badge would be like Russia, and all the sites are American, and even from the mil domain. You should not expect complete objectivity from these sites, especially since they need to somehow complete the army, and they can’t do without advertising (which is contained on these sites). To believe these sites is the same as to believe that 78% blended tooth fortifies.
                1. Blackky
                  Blackky 3 May 2013 17: 56
                  0
                  Is there evidence that does not strengthen? Well there, research, examination results ..
                  1. Canep
                    Canep 3 May 2013 18: 06
                    0
                    ADVERTISEMENT it is advertising. I have strong teeth without a hood, but judging by the picture, they are already staggered. So believe the advertisement.
  6. Ak 12
    Ak 12 3 May 2013 16: 50
    -1
    Central Asia in the US strategy after 2014

    Let them dream
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 4 May 2013 12: 25
      +1
      Quote: Ak 12
      Central Asia in the US strategy after 2014

      Let them dream

      I think the base of amers will be in Uzbekistan. Afghanistan will not go to like fighting. Turkmenistan is purely neutral. Kazakhstan is in the SCO and the Collective Security Treaty Organization. Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan have Russian bases and they have strained relations with Uzbekistan. China is slowly building and investing a lot of money in Central Asia on the economy buy all the fields that are only for sale. The oil pipeline and gas pipeline to which Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan have been connected this year have been built. The Zap Europe-Zap China highway is being built; railways are being built to Dostyk, Khorgos has been added, one more railway in Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan. q the transition seems like a Chinese gauge. So, China is preparing its raw material base and transport logistics in Central Asia, and they are taking on projects that do not cause hostility among neighboring states. Russia, on the contrary, wants to build dams against which there will be Kazakhs and Uebeks, I think energy from these hydropower plants will go to China. So, in fact, the amers will get the base, China will have the raw material base, and Russia will get the drugs (until they begin to seriously engage in Sr. A Ziya their former undivided estates from which it is quietly squeezed) For some reason, China and the Amers consider Wed. Asia is important regions and Russia sees only gastrikas who work for the good of Russia (maybe now they are sawing the budget and they have no time to think about the interests of Russia, well, they periodically pump up the national question so that people do not pay attention to their affairs)
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    1. Gecko
      Gecko 3 May 2013 17: 11
      +5
      The more fagots in Europe and the United States, the fewer enemies will remain.
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  9. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 3 May 2013 17: 18
    +3
    Quote: Blackky
    And not one normal source. Do you yourself believe murzilk?

    No, therefore I do not refer to your sources.

    Will you deny the video facts?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dt1XxaIIQA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp10jzH1W-8

    From the 4th minute.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcJaSnnyQ94
    1. Blackky
      Blackky 3 May 2013 17: 19
      -2
      Quote: GreatRussia
      to trusted sources

      Quote: GreatRussia
      forum-msk.org

      You divided by 0. Oh shi ~ ..
  10. djon3volta
    djon3volta 3 May 2013 17: 23
    +5
    Crying Asia, a distant magical land
    Crying Asia, and saxaul, a hookah and a teahouse
    Asia is crying, there is no longer her magical world
    Asia is crying and tears are pouring under the blue sky
    Asia is crying, no more ganjubas and wine
    Asia is crying, no girl is beautiful as the moon
    Asia cries and dies before my eyes
    Save her allah



    Prohibited movie in some countries. In America, 100 pounds, this clip is prohibited! Because the clip contains American soldiers with machine guns and crying children am

    that, in the chorus and in the song itself, everything is sung to a point! and the song is long-standing, but as it looked into the water, everything is so! I even shed a tear from this song, and became even more hated by America !!! am
  11. knn54
    knn54 3 May 2013 17: 46
    +9
    The United States uses international terrorism in Afghanistan to infiltrate and gain a foothold in the Central Asian region. The Americans need the production of Afghan heroin and its constant traffic to the north, through the republics of Central Asia to Russia, where most of it settles. As a result, the degradation of the young generation and, accordingly, a decrease in the viability of the Russian Federation. Islamic radicalism / extremism is exacerbating the military-political situation and expanding the zone of instability, which leads to threats to China and Russia. And the rise to power of radical Islamists in Pakistan will strengthen US political influence in the region, as in addition there will also be a nuclear threat. This will push India to strengthen diplomatic and military relations more with Washington than with Beijing, with which there are still many unresolved problems, or Moscow, which generally does not have enough resources to turn the tide of events.
    Americans do not need Russians in Central Asia, because their cultural impact on society remains high. The Yankees will secretly promote nationalism among the indigenous peoples of the region in relation to other ethnic groups, support disagreements between the republics on almost all issues, from the use of water resources to territorial claims or ethnic differences.
    And Moscow’s reaction to the possible mass exodus of Russians from Central Asia will be adequate: deportation of migrant workers to their homeland. The consequences of the return of a huge number of able-bodied citizens are also very clear - conflicts in society and radicalization / Islamization due to lack of work and other social problems.
    Americans skillfully manipulate problems to solve their geopolitical tasks, which boil down to creating one big hotbed of instability ...
    PS "Central Asia is the Eurasian Balkans." Z. Brzezinski
    1. 400
      400 4 May 2013 11: 59
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      Absolutely agree
  12. Canep
    Canep 3 May 2013 18: 13
    +3
    Well, the wrecked pancake mug was removed, but I just broke up. RETURN, I want to finish him off.
    1. tratata
      tratata 3 May 2013 18: 29
      -7
      Quote: Canep
      I want to finish him off.

      Many who want. Will not work.
      1. Canep
        Canep 3 May 2013 18: 34
        +4
        Where did you manage to put your teeth so fast, can you tell me the dentist’s address?
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          1. Canep
            Canep 3 May 2013 18: 53
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            Well, that’s good, I’ll know it will come in handy. Just don’t believe advertising anymore, and you don’t have to go to the dentist to insert teeth. And in the tanks of this KS-135 it wasn’t Obamovka but kerosene, that’s how the Americans of Kazakhstan dirtied kerosene and feces. Looks like their dream has come true.
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              1. Canep
                Canep 3 May 2013 18: 58
                +1
                On the border of Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan, they do not say more precisely (Russia 24). Or did the pilots call you and report where they will fall?

                Local media write that residents of several districts of the Chui region heard a loud explosion - this is in Kazakhstan
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                  1. Canep
                    Canep 3 May 2013 19: 03
                    +1
                    The Chui region in Kazakhstan is probably not very good for you in geography, and you don’t need to contact a dentist with this.
      2. Canep
        Canep 3 May 2013 19: 15
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        And why do you remove yourself, suicidal syndrome suffers the wrong. You should go to the doctor, this sometimes happens after you see the ads, American sites do not lead to good. wassat
  13. Humpty
    Humpty 3 May 2013 19: 14
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    The plane crashed near the village of Cheldovar in Kyrgyzstan.
    Quote: Canep
    The Chui region in Kazakhstan is probably not very good for you in geography, and you don’t need to contact a dentist with this.

    Chuy region is Kyrgyzstan. Chui plan is Kazakhstan.
    At the expense of the dentist correctly noticed, he does not cure for geographical illiteracy.
    1. Canep
      Canep 3 May 2013 19: 19
      +1
      Chu station in Kazakhstan (maybe confused) and along the way no matter where this gas tank collapsed. This is not the point.
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 3 May 2013 19: 31
        +1
        I often visit Shu Junction Station. Of course, this is not the case, but it’s not a sin for you as a resident of Kazakhstan to understand the geography of your native land.
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  14. misterwulf
    misterwulf 3 May 2013 19: 28
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    Well, I think, judging by the expression of Secretary of State J. Kerry: KYRZYKHSTAN laughing all their interests there will be reduced ONLY to continued destabilization of the situation and the establishment of hemorrhoids in Russia and China. There is a perfect place! First of all, in Kyrgyzstan laughing (I think in both)
  15. Alibekulu
    Alibekulu 3 May 2013 19: 31
    +2
    Quote: aksakal
    According to Sabzh: At the same time, Astana’s forecasted serious problem will be Astana’s desire to review the 1990 oil concessions in its favor under the pressure of fiscal and environmental claims - there is such a thing, but it is somehow very long and dreary. Pull and pull, all in no way extended. Whether it’s Putin’s business, he got to the bottom of Shtokman, denounced the PSA (production sharing agreement) and kicked these cunning guys from Russia.

    There, one of the main problems in Western technologies in the field of oil production.
    Those. if, according to Soviet technologies, 70% of the reserves were pumped out of the well, for example (I write from memory, approximately - if anyone in the subject .. correct hi ) That bourgeois - 90% .. as they say, feel the difference request By the way, I read somewhere that Russia had problems with Shtokman, just in this area ...
    Anecdote on the topic: - "Once the directors of a Russian and a Japanese enterprise meet. The enterprises produce the same products and in the same volume. The director of a Russian enterprise asks the Japanese:
    - And how many people work at your enterprise?
    “Nine,” the Japanese replies.
    - And you have?
    The Russian actually has 500 people working, but he says that 10. The next day, the Japanese says:
    - Listen, I did not sleep all night, I thought, what is the 10th doing with you? "
    And, the leadership of Kazakhstan, just waits for the Westerners to fix everything, set it up ... go to design capacity .. laughing Well, then they’ll squeeze angry Twisting hands, like they do to us, at one time .. Yes, and for many projects, this is happening ..
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 3 May 2013 20: 07
      +1
      Quote: Alibekulu
      Well, then they will squeeze out Twist your hands, as they do to us, at one time .. Yes, and for many projects, this is happening ..
      - your glory to Allah in your ears, that would come true.
      1. Alibekulu
        Alibekulu 4 May 2013 02: 09
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        Quote: aksakal
        your glory to Allah in your ears, that would come true.

        Yes, that's how it will be. This scheme is no longer new and has been repeatedly tested and received the name "raw nationalism" or otherwise "resource nationalism". And, it was used in almost all oil-producing countries. The most striking example is Venezuela. There, if I am not mistaken, I was forced to give up to 80%. Somewhere in the late 90s, early 2000s, I read an article in "Ana Tili". There, it was written that the working companies were ready to invest in the social sphere, to be sponsors .. if only they were not asked from there. The only problem is Western technologies, which we do not have.
        Will go relatively soon "big Kashagan oil"and K-n, for sure, will present his"hamburg account"By the way, the Kazakh leadership managed to expand its share in Kashagan ..
        Similar examples can be given, for example, with Turkish lyceums in Kazakhstan.
        The Turks built and established a training system in them. Currently, they have a large share of our teachers. And now, if necessary, we can point them to the door and completely do without them. By the way, the Turks are psychologically ready for such a development of events .. laughing
        P.S. Agay, I think, in more detail and thoroughly, this topic will reveal Marek..
        (for oil, what I wrote is all replicas of the Continent articles .. plagiarism in general)
        Best regards hi
    2. Canep
      Canep 3 May 2013 20: 10
      +2
      Quote: Alibekulu
      And, the leadership of Kazakhstan, just waits for the Westerners to fix everything, set it up ... go to the design capacity .. Well, then they will wring their hands out, as they are to us, in due time .. Yes, and already for many projects, this is what happens ..

      It doesn’t always turn out that way in Ekibas all the time coal was mined with the help of electric excavators, the Americans came and decided to transport coal through dump trucks and dig it with diesel excavators, i.e. to burn expensive salary to mine cheap coal. Well, they bought Caterpillar and Komatsu dump trucks. And then oil prices jumped. Nothing good happened. But they managed to sell two powerful rotary excavators for scrap. Now everything is being transferred to the conveyors but by themselves. And at GRES-1, the Americans only talked about the restoration of 3 power units, and they themselves have to be repaired without American help (one has been restored in line with two more, work is underway).
  16. Alibekulu
    Alibekulu 3 May 2013 21: 14
    -1
    Quote: Canep
    It doesn’t always turn out that way in Ekibas all the time coal was mined with the help of electric excavators, the Americans came and decided to transport coal through dump trucks and dig it with diesel excavators, i.e. to burn expensive salary to mine cheap coal. Well, they bought Caterpillar and Komatsu dump trucks. And then oil prices jumped. Nothing good happened. But they managed to sell two powerful rotary excavators for scrap.


    It happens .. Sometimes you won’t guess
    In our school in the 90's they also delivered diesel generators of Turkish manufacture .. Also, at that time, it was profitable. Then they were massively set. And when prices soared, they switched to coal again .. boiler houses were launched. Diesels stood for a long time, then delhi somewhere .. Maybe they started up for scrap ..
  17. 1goose3
    1goose3 3 May 2013 22: 26
    -1
    Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
    In general, to prohibit the transfer of money earned in our country to these CIS countries and put an ultimatum: there is no presence of NATO forces, and they will have nothing left but to put up with, they have half the budget, this is our money


    Yes, dear, simplicity is worse than theft, in truth. fool
  18. воронов
    воронов 4 May 2013 02: 17
    +1
    The Customs Economic Union is good, but we need to close the border with Kazakhstan because all Central Asia is breaking through to it. Better yet, together with the Kazakhs, close their southern border with Kyrgyzstan and the south-west with Uzbekistan tightly, so it will cost us less and In no case should Tajiks and Kirghiz be allowed into the customs union; there will be no sense in these parasites, only we will invest our resources there to revive their plundered economy.
  19. kind
    kind 4 May 2013 05: 03
    +1
    Quote: GreatRussia
    Up to 50 US helicopters in Afghanistan are severely damaged by a hail storm.

    Grad is a 122mm BM-21 reactive system, but what is a Storm? !!! laughing laughing
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 4 May 2013 05: 16
      +1
      Universal anti-aircraft missile system "Storm". Designed for collective defense of naval formations while repelling aircraft attacks in the near zone and self-defense of ships from anti-ship missiles --------- what the doctor ordered wassat
  20. Kaa
    Kaa 4 May 2013 05: 58
    +1
    Or maybe this one, there was rain ... laughing "Storm" based on KamAZ-536053
    ... A jet machine of this type is equipped with two carriages - lower and upper. The upper one, located on the roof, is, in fact, the cannon for dispersing rallies: its pressure is 11-12 atm. Moreover, the Mercedes engine (the pumping unit is driven from a separate power unit located in the rear of the car) can "accelerate" water up to 15 atm and is equipped with a factory limiter for safety reasons. The gun can fire in several modes: in short or long bursts and continuously. The lower gun carriage has approximately half the power and is designed for fire extinguishing. Besides, if the crowd gets too close, it can also be used during acceleration. "Http://www.popmech.ru/article/12036-vodyanoy-udar/HUMANITARIAN HELP. good
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 4 May 2013 06: 23
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      Well, if the set of spare parts includes a set of tactical laser target designation and aiming, then yes! 50 "stars" can be safely drawn.)
  21. rama110
    rama110 11 May 2013 14: 35
    -1
    As usual on this forum -I, I’m the head of the helm. When your country understands that there are many players in politics. Would you like to be the only ones? It's like chess. Then, how to be friends with you - the Yugoslavs were sold, they sold Najibulu, they sold Libya. The rest of the countries looked at how you distributed your passports in Ossetia, and then the tanks entered there under the pretext of protecting your citizens, and startled. And if America offers its passports tomorrow in Vladivostok - do you think the Russians will refuse? In Europe, the small countries joined together to create NATO, and before they were afraid of the USSR. And while in Central Asia it’s not so, a normal politician will push the interests of major powers for the benefit of his country. This is chess. But if any of you If he headed a small country, what would he do? Regarding migrant workers, well done Russians built so many big cities and roads with their own hands, but there aren’t enough working hands in Central Asia. As I understand it, no one gives free gifts to guest workers. 1/5 of the gross income created. This is according to the estimates of Russian scientists. It was not for nothing that Putin, on the pretext that people of an alien culture came to Russia, allowed to obtain citizenship immediately, without With an expectation of 5 years, everyone whose parents had USSR citizenship - this is 30 million Uzbeks. But for those not very smart, it sounded like a fight against migrant workers. My poor grandfather and grandmother hosted 8 Russian children during their war, except for their 5, they raised, fed and educated everyone and played weddings. From the age of 12, his father sharpened shells at his military factory. His father-in-law fought in Stalingrad and defended Russian cities, reached Königsberg, all in orders, went to hand-to-hand combat 5 times. He had many Russian friends of war veterans they came to us. Among other things, 50% of Russians lived in Tashkent, and only 3% in Yerevan. Ever wondered why? After the Tashkent earthquake, 30% of the apartments built were received by the builders themselves. But as I see it, now the tobacco is apart. All this I am telling my students, let them know, you don’t have to be too kind.