Radar did not record shelling claimed by the Syrian authorities

According to the Syrian state agency SANA, based on the words of a source in the management of civil aviation, the Syrians found no sign that a Russian passenger plane this week came under fire. The source also claims that air traffic controllers did not receive any threat messages from the crew.

The source further noted that the pilot of the aircraft flying from Sharm-en-Sheikh to Kazan, in full compliance with current regulations, contacted the air traffic controller in Damascus and only asked permission to continue flying at high altitude. Radar data also indicates that the airliner did not come under fire.

Recall that on Monday morning in the sky over Syria, a passenger plane of the Russian company NordWind, which made a flight from Sharm el-Sheikh to Kazan, was fired upon. Earlier it was reported that two rockets were launched by unknown persons in the direction of a Russian passenger plane when it was in the sky over Syria.

The crew of the Russian aircraft managed to steer the car away in time and save the lives of passengers. Whether the shooters had information that the plane was Russian or not was not known. But it is assumed that the fire was carried out purposefully on the plane. After the incident, the Directorate of Rosaviation was prohibited for Russian airlines to use the airspace of Syria.

Earlier, a video was published, which shows how the day before the shelling of a Russian plane, the terrorists, opposing the government forces of Bashar al-Assad, are transporting the Soviet missile system CHP-125M

The published video shows that the complex is located on a truck and has two missiles. However, experts say that the launch of these missiles requires guidance using a radar, which was not visible on the video.

Recall that the X-NUMX of April, the A-29 plane of the Russian charter airline NordWind Airlines, which operated the Sharm el-Sheikh-Kazan flight, came under fire over the territory of Syria. The missiles reached an altitude of 320 km and exploded a few hundred meters from the passenger liner.

Perhaps it was the absence of the very radar installation of the rebels, which was not visible on the video and saved the lives of passengers, because in normal mode, the CHP-125М complex in 100% of cases knocks down such a target.

Comments

[tronin.maxim]

Good morning everyone! This case once again proves that if air defense systems fall into the hands of militants, the consequences will be disastrous. We hope that security at important facilities is strengthened.

[patline]

Russia urgently needs to create an air base in Syria and accompany ALL flying planes. That will be the case.
And as a friendly aid to the Syrian people, zadolit fighters from the air.

[avant-garde]

Radar data also indicates that the airliner did not fall under fire .....
The crew of the Russian aircraft managed to steer the car to the side on time and save the lives of passengers ....
So was the shelling of the plane or not?

[esaul]

Quote: avant-garde

So was the shelling of the plane or not?

Good morning everyone
The answer to this question, I think, we will not get. Fortunately, the situation did not turn into a tragedy, and so - everything will go nowhere.

[andrejwz]

No. At ten kilometers altitude, the aircraft could not be fired from portable weapons. And if the hospital worked (hypothetically), then the pilots would not be able to take the plane to the side (the target is the engine). They would not even notice anything.
Question: how much and to whom they paid for this get along.

[aksakal]

Quote: andrejwz

Question: how much and to whom they paid for this get along.

- paid the pilots, but not much. Paid those journalists who picked up this get on, too little. The question is posed incorrectly. It should sound like this: "who and why, for what purpose paid for this mess and organized this hype?"
Incomprehensible things are happening. Markin, Putin’s person, wants to plant some of RUSNANO, Surkov, also like Putin’s person, fiercely defended the stolen people. There were reports on NTV showing Syrian fighters already without condemnation, as if neutral ... Not everything is alright in the corridors of the Kremlin. Would you understand what is happening there and how will things go further?

[Vladimirets]

Quote: aksakal

On NTV, reports appeared showing Syrian militants without condemnation, as if neutral ...

I, too, have found the light of truth.

[aksakal]

Quote: Vladimirets

Also me, they found the light of truth

- It is clear that it is not a beacon of truth. It is clear that NTV is not the mouthpiece of the Kremlin and can earn as much as it can. Whoever paid for "looking from the right angle of view", that order will be executed. If you have enough money and you can contact NTV, and your political views will be reflected in NTV programs as your own political views
This is where my first question comes from, which is outlined:

Quote: aksakal

"Who and why, for what purpose paid for this mess and organized this hype?"

- because the money is very considerable. Surely the amounts are in the millions in ye. So, someone quite big and very rich is spinning here. Who exactly?
One more point - of course, NTV is a private office (even if not private, it is still obliged to earn its loot for its shareholders) and can earn as much as it can. Another question is that they have a million-strong audience, and their broadcasts to please anyone who paid can have consequences, and the consequences are considerable. In this case, there is a "humanization" of the bandits, a kind of "unbiased", as if "without hatred" view of the TERRORISTS, and this is the first thing. The second is a blow from within to Russia's geopolitical position, practically a stab in the back. There is already a question of social responsibility of media outlets that have a proven audience of .... people, and this issue must be thoroughly propagated and supplements must be created to the relevant media law.
The story in SABJ is from the same opera. Since there is an information war, where is the intelligence from the Russian side in this war? Who launched the attack? How to repel this attack? The main thing is that on the next branch everything is well laid out, how and in what ways this information war is waged, what it affects and in what ways it is carried out, but something does not go beyond such analytical articles, it does not go on a practical level. The only strong retaliation is the creation of "Russia Today" and that's all. But this is a blow to the outside, and who will control their own territory?

[elmi]

I don’t want to think that our authorities have slowly begun to merge Syria, after all the experience is already Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya.

[lewerlin53rus]

Something this whole story resembles a child's game in a "spoiled phone." Someone thought something, someone blurted out something, someone, without really understanding it, passed it on with their comments. And now the news, overgrown like a snowball, with assumptions and details, rolled through all the media. In short, a simple, fat newspaper duck.

[Geisenberg]

If I'm not mistaken, the S-125 does not fire at all without a radar system. Then, if the rocket exploded within a hundred meters, then the damage would definitely have been. Bolshe it seems that some kind of terrorist @ # $ # @ but shook their stinger in pursuit of the liner, "fuck off" - they ordered and now you don't care that the parameters are not the same, the money has been paid.

I understand everything - it’s an infamous thing to shoot civilian planes, but where does the moderator look? To bring out such nonsense for discussion.

[APASUS]

Was this shelling or not - flying over war zones more expensive.
In which case there will be no opportunity at all to conduct an investigation, but to pick up and bury people is a problem.

[Sirocco]

Perhaps it was the absence of the very radar installation of the rebels, which was not visible on the video and saved the lives of passengers, because in normal mode, the CHP-125М complex in 100% of cases knocks down such a target.

What can I say about this? If in reality everything happened as described in the article, and as the pilots told, then this is the first call, if you do not take action, poppniya is possible. I was interested in the very fact of the shelling of the Russian aircraft, in any way someone coordinated the actions of these semi-literate robbers, you need to know the time of departure, and the passage of the aircraft over the place of the intended launch. In general, everything is not so simple. Who benefits from the destruction of the Russian airliner?

[Retx]

Flights over Syria were not recommended with 2012 international organizations, ours flew to save fuel ... I don’t think that they were aiming at the Russian side, although it made them worse - the reaction of Russian society against the rebels.

[Castor oil]

Yes, it is unlikely that "the pilot invented everything" - a typical attack of an aircraft with a dual launch of an S-125 air defense system of the Neva type is described, just the launch was made at random by a lazar, without radar tracking, and at the maximum interception range, the self-destruction mechanism worked. Why fence a garden and make idiots out of pilots?