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In the western regions of Ukraine 9 May declared a day of mourning

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Western regions of Ukraine seriously intend to declare the day of 9 in May as a day of mourning. Moreover, the relevant bills have already been adopted by Lviv and Ivano-Frankivsk city councils. According to these documents, on Victory Day festive processions are prohibited, as well as the use of symbols of Soviet times, including the red flag and veterans' military orders. Such a decision of local authorities (which, by the way, are mostly represented by “Svoboda”), causes confusion and bewilderment, because, according to Ukrainian legislation, the holiday 9 is recognized as an official public holiday in May. Obviously, Ukrainian laws mean nothing to neo-fascists.

In accordance with the words of one of the initiators of the decision, the city council deputy from the Freedom party, Lyubomir Melnychuk, all the statements of the Ukrainian government about the celebration of 9 on May and the use of one of the main symbols of communist terror - the red flag - is another provocation, which In some cases, it should not be allowed in Lviv. Also, the same deputy called on Ukrainians to spend the day in prayer for those who died in the war.

At the same time, the logic of decisions made by regional authorities is rather difficult to understand. Indeed, according to the same Melnichuk, Lviv, as a European city, must adhere to the European practice of honoring those who died in World War II. But at the same time, it is he who proposes to declare not only 9, but also 8 on May, that is, the day when all of Europe celebrates victory over Nazi Germany ...

In fact, to understand the true reason for the decisions made is very simple: Ukrainian neo-fascists by any means necessary to replace the bright holiday of Victory with its full opposite - the day of sorrow. Thus, according to the "independent", they will be able to erase from the memory of the people historical the truth, which was common to Ukraine and Russia, replacing it with its version. At the same time, the main blow is aimed not only at the common Soviet past, but also at its carriers - veterans who still remained in the western regions. It turns out that all the most valuable and important that has been preserved since Soviet times, with the abolition of Victory Day, is subject to destruction and eradication. And the veterans, thanks to whom this victory was won, and which are becoming less and less every year, no longer have the right to come together to remember past times and celebrate a bright holiday ...

But that's not all. The decision to eradicate the Soviet legacy of "Svobodovtsy" not limited. In addition to the decision to recognize 8-9 in May as days of mourning, the bill of the Lviv City Council also says that these days are recognized as days of grief for the victims of all totalitarian regimes, including Hitler’s. It turns out that the representatives of the Svoboda party, who currently occupy leadership positions, are inherently anti-fascists, and Shukhevych together with Bandera are not really Hitler's henchmen, but the real heroes of Ukraine. So it turns out that the decision taken by the Lvov and Ivano-Frankivsk authorities is not only to erase the entire Soviet legacy from people's memory, but also to cleanse their heroes from the Nazi mud.

It is clear that such illegal decisions could not go unnoticed by the government. So, in particular, Prime Minister N. Azarov during a briefing held on April 30, stated that the decision taken in the western regions is illegal, because it contradicts the Basic Law of the country. The Prime Minister stated that the decision was beyond the competence of local authorities, and there was no point in talking about any European integration, since the local authorities themselves violated the Constitution. According to Azarov, the recognition of the 9 of May as a day of mourning is immoral, but for sorrow there is another day - this is the 22 of June, the day the war started. At the end of his speech, the Prime Minister said that everyone who is trying to change history should remember what happened in this case (referring to Nazism), and also assured that the government will do everything possible so that neo-Nazism in Ukraine has no chance to development.

Representatives of the Party of Regions and the Communist Party did not stand aside either. Regionals are confident that the decision taken in Galicia is primarily a betrayal of their own people, because 9 of May was always considered a Victory Day and to prohibit it is to betray the memory of their ancestors, who at the cost of their own lives defended the future generations . At the same time, the regionals are confident that the scandalous solution is a rough provocation, which aims at destabilizing the situation in society and provoking the popular opposition. A vivid proof of this is the statement of the Lviv communists about their intention to celebrate the Victory Day with flags and processions. Thus, it is quite possible that the history of a year ago can be repeated, when in Lviv the neo-fascists actually persecuted the veterans ...

According to representatives of the ruling party, all attempts by neo-Nazis to defile the memory of the people's feat or the Victory symbols will be harshly suppressed and suppressed. But if you think well, behind these words is not quite what I would like. So, Lviv police received an order to protect military monuments in the region from vandals from 7 on May, but at the same time there is no mention of the need to ensure protection to veterans during demonstrations. Moreover, around 150 law enforcement officers are allocated to everything, and this is to the thousands of neo-Nazis who live and are active in Lviv ...

If you go a little further, it becomes quite obvious that such a decisive “anti-Freedom” position of the regionals is not really so anti-fascist. More recently, one event occurred which is proof of this: the Poles accused the Ukrainian Freedom Party of neo-Nazism, but the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, which is under the control of the government and, accordingly, of the Party of Regions, came to their defense. Recall that in early April, the Polish government adopted a resolution recognizing the OUN-UPA, SS “Galichina”, as well as the Ukrainian police, which served the fascists as criminal organizations that committed genocide against the Poles in 1939-1947. In response, the Ukrainian government perceived such a decision as an unfriendly gesture towards Ukraine, as interference in its internal affairs, and moreover, it perceived this project as an attempt to complicity with Russia ...

In addition to the authorities, some political scientists also expressed their attitude to the decision taken in the West of Ukraine. Thus, according to G. Trofimchuk, the first vice-president of the Center for Modeling Strategic Development, such a decision is quite normal and natural, because it happened to almost everyone who had escaped from the so-called Soviet occupation zone. In the end, all this euphoria faded away, because there is no way to go back to the past. Therefore, do not interfere with Lviv "enthusiasts": if they are sure that the holidays need to be renamed or even establish a new holiday - let them do, it will be more interesting to watch them from the side.

Political analyst D.Orlov, who is the general director of the analytical center “Strategy East-West”, says that in the light of the current situation, the Ukrainian head of state is quite unfairly called a dictator. After all, dictators in the event of even the slightest focus of separatism and disobedience immediately surround him and pacify him with weapons. And Yanukovych is still a Democrat, what kind of search is necessary. According to Orlov, Victory Day is a holiday fixed at the state level, and if the head of state ordered to celebrate it, then the task of the local authorities is to execute this order in full, and not make any incomprehensible decisions.

Political analyst L.Savin, the editor-in-chief of Geopolitics, is convinced that the decision of the Lviv authorities is a consequence of the coming to power of ultra-right neo-Nazis, who were supported by the finances of the same Yanukovych. Therefore, such decisions may appear in other areas of the western region, especially in those of them where there is a fairly large percentage of active Bandera nationalists. As a result, a further split of Ukrainian society and new conflicts may occur. Therefore, all free thinking of local authorities must be stopped.

Anyway, the decision has already been made, and one can only hope for the sanity of the government, which will take more stringent measures against the regional authorities. However, there is still a small chance that the Ukrainian neo-Nazis still have at least a little philanthropy and respect for their ancestors, and the decision will not have any serious consequences, although it is unlikely ...

Materials used:
http://www.km.ru/world/2013/04/26/istoriya-velikoi-otechestvennoi-voiny/709787-9-maya-vo-lvove
http://rossiya-ukraina.livejournal.com/1417632.html
http://for-ua.com/ukraine/2013/04/25/135252.html
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  1. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 3 May 2013 07: 09 New
    68
    the division of Ukraine took place de facto. The authorities are trying to combine incompatible. Legally, as long as everything rests only on the Party of Regions, as soon as it loses its influence, separation will be final. The only question is how, peacefully or not. Judging by the mood of western Ukraine, most likely not very much. It seems to me that the eastern regions should not turn away, but prepare for a similar scenario.
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta 3 May 2013 07: 57 New
      -14
      Quote: vladsolo56
      everything rests only on the Party of Regions, as soon as it loses influence, the separation will take place completely.

      What exactly will happen? Give a specific scenario, and don’t beat around the bush.
      there will be two Ukraine or what? what will be, can you clearly and completely state your idea? or is it all veiled, in riddles, hints, interest
      1. Canep
        Canep 3 May 2013 08: 19 New
        18
        I think it may happen that there will be not 2, but more Ukraine. While in power, representatives of the oligarchs, the situation will not change. Here, Russia has the opportunity to return Crimea.
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 3 May 2013 08: 41 New
          37
          Quote: Canep
          I think it may happen that there will be not 2, but more Ukraine. While in power, representatives of the oligarchs, the situation will not change. Here, Russia has the opportunity to return Crimea.



          This is why only the Crimea? And Donbass, and the Black Sea?
          1. Deniska999
            Deniska999 3 May 2013 08: 42 New
            +9
            And the whole of Ukraine?
            1. Hudo
              Hudo 3 May 2013 08: 48 New
              67
              Quote: Deniska999
              And the whole of Ukraine?


              There is a desire to again fish out Banderasts from caches, and then warm the Galician viper on the chest, feed it? In Poland, they must be surrendered to anal slavery, as bequeathed to them historically.
              1. Shawnee
                Shawnee 3 May 2013 10: 14 New
                11
                quote] In Poland, surrender them to anal slavery, [/ quote]
                Why so cruel - it all began humanly in 1914 drinks
            2. Eric
              Eric 3 May 2013 17: 15 New
              -4
              Appetite comes with eating wassat
            3. Scythian 35
              Scythian 35 3 May 2013 20: 01 New
              -16
              No offense, but I think choke on such a piece.
              1. AK44
                AK44 4 May 2013 10: 44 New
                +4
                Do not worry, do not choke.
                1. prior67
                  prior67 7 May 2013 18: 38 New
                  0
                  But the Caucasus is not fed up?
              2. d_trader
                d_trader 4 May 2013 17: 23 New
                +7
                Yes, you yourself will reach Russia and reach out like a fried smell. Who needs the Slavs, besides us the same Slavs. When you already learn to turn on the brain.
          2. Scythian 35
            Scythian 35 3 May 2013 20: 00 New
            -15
            What kind of fairy tales ??? When Ivanushka tried on boots for purchase at the bazaar, they stole his own from him !!!
            1. Shawnee
              Shawnee 3 May 2013 22: 18 New
              -8
              General agreement

              On cooperation, mutual assistance, joint activity between the Main Directorate of State Security of the NKVD of the USSR and the Main Directorate of Security of the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany (GESTAPO).

              Signing time: mountains. Moscow November 11, 1938 15 hours 40 minutes

              The People’s Commissariat of Internal Affairs of the USSR Union, hereinafter referred to as the NKVD, represented by the Head of the Main Directorate of State Security, Commissioner of State Security 1st Rank Lavrenty BERIYA

              on the one hand, and the Main Security Directorate of the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany,

              represented by the Head of the Fourth Directorate (GESTAPO) Heinrich MULLER, on the basis of power of attorney No. 1 448 / 12-1, dated November 3, 1938, issued by the chief of the Main Directorate of Security Reichsfuhrer SS Reinhard Heydrich, hereinafter referred to as GESTAPO,

              on the other hand, they have concluded this general agreement on cooperation, mutual assistance, joint activity between the NKVD and the GESTAPO.

              § 1.
              item 1. The parties see the need for developing close cooperation between the state security bodies of the USSR and Germany in the name of security and prosperity of both countries, strengthening good neighborly relations, friendship between the Russian and German peoples,

              joint activities aimed at waging a merciless fight against common enemies leading a systematic policy of fomenting war, international conflicts and enslaving humanity.

              item 2. The parties to this agreement see the historic need for such a decision and will try to do everything to strengthen the influence and power positions of their countries around the world without causing mutual harm.

              Taking into account the historical processes in the development of international relations, in which the USSR and Germany are the leading countries, as well as that good relations are established between our governments, friendship and cooperation are strengthening between the peoples, at the same time, the desire of the common enemies of the USSR and Germany is aimed at separation of good neighborly relations,

              incitement of distrust, hostility, outright hostility and revanchist attacks by the NKVD and the GESTAPO will lead joint activities in the fight against common enemies and will inform their governments about the results of such activities.

              item 3. Aware that the recent changes in the world present our countries with a unique chance to establish a new order in the world, based on primacy, wishing to give dynamism to relations between the USSR and Germany, the parties agreed on the following:
              1. Shawnee
                Shawnee 3 May 2013 22: 20 New
                -4
                § 2.
                item 1. The NKVD and the GESTAPO will develop their relations in the name of the prosperity of friendship and cooperation between our countries.

                item 2. The parties will lead a joint struggle against common main enemies:

                - international Jewry, its international financial system, Judaism and the Jewish worldview;

                - the degeneration of humanity, in the name of healing the white race and creating eugenic mechanisms of racial hygiene.

                item 3. The types and forms of degeneration to be sterilized and destroyed by the parties were determined by additional protocol No. 1, which is an integral part of this agreement.

                § 3.
                item 1. The parties will do their utmost to strengthen the principles of socialism in the USSR, national socialism in Germany, and are convinced that one of the fundamental elements of security is the process of militarizing the economy, developing the military industry and strengthening the strength and capacity of the armed forces of their states.

                item 2. The parties will contribute to the development of cooperation in the military field between our countries, and, if necessary, war, contribute to the conduct of joint intelligence and counterintelligence activities on the territory of enemy states.

                § 4.
                item 1. In the event of situations that, in the opinion of one of the parties, pose a threat to our countries, they will inform each other and immediately make contact to coordinate necessary initiatives and take active measures to ease tensions and to resolve such situations.

                § 5.
                item 1. The parties attach great importance to the development and deepening of professional activity. Exchange of experience and meetings, business trips of employees of both departments will be carried out on an ongoing basis.

                item 2. The leaders of the NKVD and the GESTAPO, employees of the services of both departments will have regular meetings to hold consultations, discuss other events that contribute to the development and deepening of relations between our countries.

                § 6.
                item 1. The parties will contribute to the expansion and deepening of cooperation between our countries in the areas of:

                - military industry;
                - aircraft construction;
                - economics;
                - finance;
                - scientific and technical cooperation;
                - in the field of energy;
                - science and technology;
                - in the field of innermost secrets, theozolotia, Theosophy, paranormal and abnormal phenomena that affect social processes and the internal life of states.

                § 7.
                Clause 1. Each of the parties will facilitate as much as possible, on the basis of reciprocity, the visa regime for the entry of employees of both departments into our countries.

                § 8.
                item 1. The parties will enter into additional agreements as necessary in order to implement the provisions of this agreement.

                § 9.
                item 1. This agreement shall enter into force on the day of its signing for a period of five years and will be automatically extended for subsequent five-year periods.

                The text of the agreement is printed in Russian and German in a single copy, each of which has the same force, sealed with the signatures and seals of the representatives of the NKVD and the GESTAPO. The Russian text of the agreement remains in the NKVD, German in the GESTAPO.

                Done at Moscow, November 11, 1938, at 15 p.m. 40 min

                Signatures of the parties:

                HEAD OF THE MAIN DEPARTMENT OF STATE SECURITY OF THE PEOPLE'S COMMISSARIAT OF INTERNAL AFFAIRS OF THE USSR COMMISSIONER OF STATE SECURITY 1 RANK L. BERIA

                HEAD OF THE FOURTH DEPARTMENT (GESTAPO) OF THE MAIN DEPARTMENT OF SECURITY OF THE NATIONAL-SOCIALIST WORKING PARTY OF GERMANY Brigadeführer SS G. MULLER
                1. Shawnee
                  Shawnee 3 May 2013 22: 28 New
                  -6
                  PROTOCOL No.1

                  Appendix to the agreement of November 11, 1938 between the NKVD and the GESTAPO.

                  Among other things, the parties determined that in § 2 paragraph 3 of the signed agreement we are talking about the following types of qualifications of degenerative signs of degeneration, such as:

                  - red;
                  - oblique;
                  - outwardly ugly, lame and oblique from birth, having speech defects: lisp, burr, stutter (congenital);
                  - witches and sorcerers, shamans and clairvoyants, Satanists and thistles;
                  - humpback, dwarfs and with other pronounced defects, which should be attributed to the section of degeneration and degeneration;
                  - persons with large birthmarks and a plurality of small, different-colored skin coatings, multi-colored eyes, etc.

                  The parties will additionally determine the qualifications of the types (types) of degeneration and signs of degeneration. Each of the parties will determine the appropriate (acceptable) limit and program for the sterilization and destruction of these species.

                  Signatures of the parties:
                  HEAD OF THE MAIN DEPARTMENT OF STATE SECURITY OF THE PEOPLE'S COMMISSARIAT OF INTERNAL AFFAIRS OF THE USSR COMMISSIONER OF STATE SECURITY 1 RANGE L. BERIY

                  HEAD OF THE FOURTH DEPARTMENT (GESTAPO) OF THE MAIN DEPARTMENT OF SECURITY OF THE GERMAN NATIONAL-SOCIALIST WORKING PARTY
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 3 May 2013 22: 34 New
                    +1
                    Cool. Only the question arises, if this agreement is not another remake, then what facts indicate that it was being implemented?

                    Here, for example, remember the meeting in Brest. On the one hand, Guderian, on the other, Semyon Moiseevich Krivoshein, a purebred Jew.
                    But what about §2 paragraph 2 of the text you posted?
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                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 3 May 2013 23: 07 New
                        +1
                        Yes, I know. In general, such fakes pop up with amazing regularity.
                    2. Shawnee
                      Shawnee 4 May 2013 00: 04 New
                      -2
                    3. Scythian 35
                      Scythian 35 4 May 2013 09: 20 New
                      -3
                      On this occasion, everything has already been eaten a thousand times, including on this site. Guderian was indignant, didn’t want to host a parade with a Jew until he was pulled at.
                  2. luka095
                    luka095 4 May 2013 23: 40 New
                    0
                    Yeah. Persistence you do not hold. And yet, why?
                2. crest 57
                  crest 57 3 May 2013 22: 29 New
                  +7
                  "The bolder the lie, the easier it is to believe."
                  Dr. Goebbels.
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                3. luka095
                  luka095 4 May 2013 23: 38 New
                  0
                  Dear Shawnee, the fake directly shouts that the fake. Still, why do you need this?
              2. luka095
                luka095 4 May 2013 23: 35 New
                +1
                Dear Shawnee! You replicate a fake that has been repeatedly analyzed. The absurdities are striking in the text you cite. Why do you need this?
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        2. Kolya
          Kolya 3 May 2013 09: 38 New
          10
          If you want to know what will happen to Ukraine, look at its history in the second decade of the last century. Maybe not 100% but 90% it will become clear. And Western Ukraine most likely this time will step aside, and let Yanukovych take it for himself.
        3. evgenm55
          evgenm55 3 May 2013 12: 32 New
          11
          It’s certainly Crimea, but for the rest it’s a shame, and a terrible shame. They take their motherland as they want. Joseph Vissarionovich did not knowingly want to send all the Galician fuck-up for corrections, it’s a pity, he did not have time.
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        5. starshina78
          starshina78 3 May 2013 20: 05 New
          0
          Russia had the opportunity to return Crimea in 1991 in Belovezhskaya Pushcha. Kravchuk recalled that he was afraid of such an opportunity - Yeltsin would demand Crimea in exchange for signing an agreement on the CIS, but he probably was hungover, or glad to the ugliness that he would become the master of Russia. And as for Ukraine, even at the beginning of Yushchenko’s presidency, some political scientists (Ukrainian by the way) considered the question of splitting Ukraine into three states: Crimea, Eastern Ukraine and Western Ukraine. Further action involved the annexation of the eastern part and Crimea to Russia as a federation, and the western part to Hungary and part to Poland.
      2. domokl
        domokl 3 May 2013 09: 55 New
        11
        Quote: djon3volta
        what exactly will happen? give a specific scenario
        Well, if you so want to find out everything, I will tell you the script.
        For more than 20-year history, the people of Ukraine elected different presidents and the Rada, made a revolution, stood for months at rallies and other, other, other .. The result we see ... Life may have become more fun, but somehow not very satisfying .. .
        That is why, in the last parliamentary elections, even the eastern regions began to vote not only for the party of regions, but also for the nationalists. For nationalists, as for the latter who have not yet ruled Ukraine.
        The situation under the current president’s reign will not go astray. That means he won’t shine in the new elections. And the boxer Klitschko will be chosen. Here he will kill today's Ukraine with his sledgehammer-like blow.
        The western part (propolian) will become one country, the eastern (pro-Russian) another, Crimea (I think by that time the Tatar diaspora will even more strengthen), perhaps it will become the third country ...
        Naturally, initially, Klitschko will create a new state out of three existing, like the CIS of Ukraine, and only then the parts will leave the structure and a handful of small Ukraine will appear on the map, completely helpless, struggling and not really needed ...
        Further, the poor countries will ask for someone under their wing, at the regional level no more ... East to Russia, West to Poland, Crimea to Turkey or Russia ..
        1. Vovka levka
          Vovka levka 3 May 2013 12: 08 New
          +1
          Quote: domokl
          Quote: djon3volta
          what exactly will happen? give a specific scenario
          Well, if you so want to find out everything, I will tell you the script.
          For more than 20-year history, the people of Ukraine elected different presidents and the Rada, made a revolution, stood for months at rallies and other, other, other .. The result we see ... Life may have become more fun, but somehow not very satisfying .. .
          That is why, in the last parliamentary elections, even the eastern regions began to vote not only for the party of regions, but also for the nationalists. For nationalists, as for the latter who have not yet ruled Ukraine.
          The situation under the current president’s reign will not go astray. That means he won’t shine in the new elections. And the boxer Klitschko will be chosen. Here he will kill today's Ukraine with his sledgehammer-like blow.
          The western part (propolian) will become one country, the eastern (pro-Russian) another, Crimea (I think by that time the Tatar diaspora will even more strengthen), perhaps it will become the third country ...
          Naturally, initially, Klitschko will create a new state out of three existing, like the CIS of Ukraine, and only then the parts will leave the structure and a handful of small Ukraine will appear on the map, completely helpless, struggling and not really needed ...
          Further, the poor countries will ask for someone under their wing, at the regional level no more ... East to Russia, West to Poland, Crimea to Turkey or Russia ..

          Do not write nonsense.
          What is shown on television is written in newspapers and on the Internet has nothing to do with real life that exists in Ukraine. Well, people want "fried facts" to read, watch them. So they write all nonsense. If you are interested in what is happening in Ukraine, travel all over Ukraine and draw your own conclusions.
          1. Curculum
            Curculum 3 May 2013 18: 20 New
            +5
            Quote: Vovka Levka
            If you are interested in what is happening in Ukraine, travel all over Ukraine and draw your own conclusions.

            Mother lives in the Kirovograd region, often in Odessa, Nikolaev, Krivoy Rog, Dnepropetrovsk and, naturally, in Kiev, with many constantly in touch by any means of telecommunication: I see hopelessness, unfortunately. Some classmates, who were more or less successful 10 years ago, began to drink the bitter and are going to dump from their homes. The most important thing is that good experts in mining and other professions (without exaggeration, golden hands) have been dumped for a long time and do not regret a single drop, some received Russian citizenship and settled in the Russian Federation. My opinion may be subjective, but everyone observes what they can see, and the quality of vision does not play a last role in this case.
          2. domokl
            domokl 3 May 2013 21: 03 New
            +6
            Quote: Vovka Levka
            What is shown on TV is written in newspapers and on the Internet has nothing to do with real life that exists in Ukraine.

            Maybe it doesn’t have anything in common, only who elects the presidents in Ukraine and the Rada then? What kind of aliens are coming to you?
            In general, to be honest, Ukraine got it with its problems and brotherhood ... I recall that the older one was smart, the middle one was not that way, the younger one was ...
            You live as you want, Having talked on the website with the Ukrainians, I began to understand-Ukraine, in its current form, is an enemy, terrible because it is like mold .. and creeps slowly and is difficult to destroy.
          3. alexander rus.
            alexander rus. 3 May 2013 22: 37 New
            +5
            So it is in reality. And the same “devils” as in Russia muddied the water.
            1. taseka
              taseka 4 May 2013 03: 34 New
              +1
              Quote: alexander rus.
              And the "devils" like in Russia muddied the water.

              Bender rats are there, in Russia, broods of policemen - stirs up freaks on the subconscious !!!
            2. ramzes1776
              ramzes1776 4 May 2013 12: 38 New
              +2
              Quote: alexander rus.
              So it is in reality. And the same “devils” as in Russia muddied the water.

              What can we talk about at all, if you look at how the Germans were met in Lvov in 1941.

              1. ramzes1776
                ramzes1776 4 May 2013 13: 10 New
                +2
                And these are the grandfathers of those who are now in power in Lviv.


        2. MG42
          MG42 3 May 2013 12: 14 New
          +4
          Quote: domokl
          Klitschko will create a new state out of three existing, like the CIS of Ukraine, and only then the parts will leave the composition and a handful of small Ukraine will appear on the map

          Does Klitschko have chances and who will support him, Besides sports popularity as a politician, he is still green >>>>
          The authorities planned another scenario, Yanukovych will be elected for a second term (presidential elections can be adopted in parliament by a controlled majority, they will amend the constitution and approve through the pocket actually the Constitutional Court), then his son will rule. Rada will be dispersed through a referendum; there will be a 2-chamber parliament in the lower house, majority voters will be in the lower house, and the governors in the upper house, preparations for the referendum have already begun by the CEC.
        3. bootlegger
          bootlegger 3 May 2013 12: 51 New
          +9
          It seems to me that you underestimate Yanukovych. He is still able to surprise everyone. He will not simply give up power to some Klitschko. Yanukovych perfectly understands what awaits him if he loses the next election and fights until the last ...
          1. MG42
            MG42 3 May 2013 15: 19 New
            +5
            Quote: bootlegger
            Yanukovych perfectly understands what awaits him if he loses the next election and fights until the last

            If he planned to cede power in the “fair elections”, he did not invest in Mizhhiria, the mistakes when he lost were already taken into account, and he had a lot of advisers and even bought from the former opposition >>>
            here is a photo of the interior of one of the halls of Mizhhirya - its suburban residence near Kiev >>> one chandelier is about 60 thousand US dollars
          2. Axel
            Axel 3 May 2013 17: 18 New
            +2
            Quote: bootlegger
            It seems to me that you underestimate Yanukovych. He is still able to surprise everyone. He will not simply give up power to some Klitschko. Yanukovych perfectly understands what awaits him if he loses the next election and fights until the last ...

            Two variants of Yanyk will plant the second option, give an order to shoot at people.
            After his tricks, there’s nowhere to run, not Russia and the West will not accept him
            In Mizhhiria, I equipped myself with a headquarters for Al Werewolf, which is guarded by the military and air defense with the S-300 complex
            1. MG42
              MG42 4 May 2013 00: 49 New
              +1
              Quote: Axel
              In Mizhhiria, I equipped myself with a headquarters for Al Werewolf, which is guarded by the military and air defense with the S-300 complex

              I also heard about anti-aircraft defense, I’ll find a video, I’ve got a storyline >>>
              Yanukovych himself conducts a tour for journalists in his house >>>

              Of course not quite new = classic about hemp, a lot of laughter from this ..
              1. MG42
                MG42 4 May 2013 01: 43 New
                +2
                Here is a video about air defense covering a peaceful sky above the head of our guarantor, though in Ukrainian. language, but the plot is interesting >>>
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I1ml7hoAsg
              2. Scythian 35
                Scythian 35 4 May 2013 09: 26 New
                -3
                nothing special, the little rooms are small, and the cabinet is finally just a corner.
        4. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 3 May 2013 13: 31 New
          +7
          Yeah ... Prospects are not pleasant. The principle of divide and conquer continues to operate.
      3. Andrey from Tver
        Andrey from Tver 3 May 2013 10: 49 New
        12
        They took Russian brigades of the police fields!
      4. Reasonable, 2,3
        Reasonable, 2,3 3 May 2013 11: 17 New
        -1
        There will be no few Ukraine-Russia such a scenario will not allow.
        1. domokl
          domokl 3 May 2013 11: 32 New
          16
          Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
          Russia will not allow such a scenario
          What is your assumption based on? You don’t need about brotherhood ... Ukraine Russia needs eastern (industry and Crimea (a convenient military port of Sevastopol ... Western one can completely sacrifice ... The presence of two completely different regions makes Ukraine a barrel of gunpowder, which it can explode at any moment. And deprives it of stability at all, under any president.
          1. Reasonable, 2,3
            Reasonable, 2,3 3 May 2013 17: 41 New
            0
            And this is unprofitable for anyone except the United States, even the geyrop, and especially now.
        2. djon3volta
          djon3volta 3 May 2013 12: 51 New
          -9
          Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
          There will be no few Ukraine-Russia such a scenario will not allow.

          here I am of the same opinion. the Kremlin is still in control of the situation, and it won’t reach the citizen. They will hold meetings and disperse.
          1. El13
            El13 3 May 2013 18: 58 New
            +4
            If the Kremlin controlled the situation, then Ukraine would already be in the CU ...
      5. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 3 May 2013 12: 54 New
        +7
        And what an incomprehensible section will happen, and may be power. Since, for example, western Ukraine will most likely want to take control of the eastern one. Of course the idea is crazy, but isn’t that all that is happening now in western Ukraine?
        1. Scythian 35
          Scythian 35 3 May 2013 20: 19 New
          +1
          Sorry, but you write complete nonsense. Information for such people far from everything !!! At the given moment, 90%, or even more, of the heads of regional departments of police, prosecutors, SBU, heads of administrations, etc. (including in Western Ukraine) are immigrants from the Lugansk or Donetsk region, as you everywhere in St. Petersburg, only more global scales. And now please explain to me HOW AND WHO WESTERN UKRAINE CAN TAKE CONTROL OVER EASTERN. Only please without delirium and all sorts of thoughts and quotes from ORT.
          1. Curculum
            Curculum 4 May 2013 07: 00 New
            +1
            Quote: Scythian 35
            At the given moment, 90%, or even more, of the heads of regional departments of police, prosecutors, SBU, heads of administrations, etc.

            "Where are the woods from," is the link possible? "Only please, without delirium and any kind of reflection and quotations from Channel 5".
            1. Scythian 35
              Scythian 35 4 May 2013 09: 03 New
              0
              for the most intelligent, I live in Ukraine in the Chernihiv region. If the gyughl does not represent an insurmountable obstacle for you, then you can easily find out without wading the jungle who the regional prosecutor and the chief of the police department are.
            2. Aleks21
              Aleks21 6 May 2013 17: 31 New
              +1
              This is a fact, even in our country (a town in TsetrUkraine - 50 thousand) for a year they removed all the locals and put the Donetsk people on - the prosecutor, the mentor, the tax chief (which was renamed). They fly in their jeeps - they tear money from all enterprises and private traders.
              1. Scythian 35
                Scythian 35 6 May 2013 20: 00 New
                -1
                They came not to work, they came to cut down the loot for the family, and they came for a long time, and they are not going to give power to anyone. What is most insulting is that Vitek the protege and the six of Moscow, and the citizens of the Russians are outraged by what kind of kazla the residents of Ukraine elected as president !!!
      6. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 3 May 2013 13: 34 New
        -1
        Yes, what riddles, try LOGICALLY to reflect ... and you will see the result! It’s like in a puzzle or a rebus, you need to “turn on” the LOGIC!
      7. zvereok
        zvereok 3 May 2013 14: 54 New
        -4
        Quote: djon3volta
        Quote: vladsolo56
        everything rests only on the Party of Regions, as soon as it loses influence, the separation will take place completely.

        What exactly will happen? Give a specific scenario, and don’t beat around the bush.
        there will be two Ukraine or what? what will be, can you clearly and completely state your idea? or is it all veiled, in riddles, hints, interest


        First Yugoslavia wakes up, and maybe in the future, "Great Romania".


      8. radar75
        radar75 3 May 2013 15: 28 New
        +1
        Yes, there will be no. There will be peace, tranquility and economic growth. Only PR will not. These are really dumb earcaps and bandits. They got everyone - west, east, north, and south.
        1. Yars
          Yars 3 May 2013 16: 22 New
          +6
          with such creatures as the "freedom" of peace in Ukraine will not be
      9. brelok
        brelok 3 May 2013 20: 55 New
        0
        Quote: djon3volta
        Quote: vladsolo56
        everything rests only on the Party of Regions, as soon as it loses influence, the separation will take place completely.

        What exactly will happen? Give a specific scenario, and don’t beat around the bush.
        there will be two Ukraine or what? what will be, can you clearly and completely state your idea? or is it all veiled, in riddles, hints, interest

        Variant of 1920 is not excluded. Panes are near. Slaves are fighting, the land is in danger. It is interesting how many of them got out! Like they cleared.
      10. super-vitek
        super-vitek 3 May 2013 22: 17 New
        +3
        The following will happen. Romania, Poland, and maybe Slovakia if they want, although I don’t think they can get Transcarpathia and Prykarpattya. They have aimed at this for a long time, although the people of these regions of Ukraine 50/50 want such an “independence” !!! Of course, Russia will not stay in side and take possession of most of eastern Ukraine. BUT !!! If such a thing, God forbid, such a concept as Slavic culture loses its meaning, and eventually transforms into unrecognizability! Well, of course, there can be no talk of any free Ukraine , because the countries that have been burying it from time immemorial have seen Ukraine simply as an appendage that will supply slave power and raw materials. In fact, what is happening is just awful, for me personally as a purebred Ukrainian it is a tragedy, I did not think that I would live to see that !!! Wake up, little brother, every nationalist, Tolera scum DRAWS YOU INTO THE GRAPE !!!
      11. Alekseev
        Alekseev 4 May 2013 14: 31 New
        0
        Quote: djon3volta
        what will be, can you clearly and completely state your idea? or is it all veiled

        This, brother, is not for average minds! wink
      12. Containers
        Containers 5 May 2013 22: 02 New
        0
        There is such a work, "The Age of the Stillborn." Although it is artistic, i.e. fiction, but here's the script for you.
    2. Hudo
      Hudo 3 May 2013 08: 39 New
      14
      In the presidential elections in Ukraine in 2010, for example, in the Donetsk region (one of the basic electoral regions for the party of regions)
      And the tour
      as of 20:00, the turnout was 69,66% (total, voting ended at 20:00)
      II round
      as of 20:00, the turnout was 76,98% (total, voting ended at 20:00)
      http://ura.dn.ua/01.11.2010/102794.html

      After this, the Party of Regions and Yanukovych twisted feints with his ears with misconceptions about the Banner of Victory and Russian as a regional language. Woz, as expected, to the delight of the Galician Nazis and Russophobes, remained in place. In addition, Yanuk did everything possible to ensure that all the tricks of the Nazis went unpunished.

      RESULTS: Voter turnout (Donetsk region) in the parliamentary elections (2012) amounted to 59,72%. (Not without annotations)

      Further, after the Galician-fascists came to parliament, Victor didn’t calm down and became a geyrointegrator, well, oooh, he really wants to be a geyropu (which his voters certainly didn’t order him)

      So in the presidential election in 2015, Yanuka is waiting for a whistling flight.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 3 May 2013 09: 29 New
        +7
        Quote: Hudo
        So in the presidential election in 2015, Yanuka is waiting for a whistling flight.

        With subsequent relocation to prison laughing
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 3 May 2013 09: 41 New
          -3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Hudo
          So in the presidential election in 2015, Yanuka is waiting for a whistling flight.

          With subsequent relocation to prison laughing


          There is infa that Papa, Yanuka, during the years of World War II, was a "lover of good coffee" and an active lackey of the then European integrators - German fascists.
          And judging by how the Natsuki spill frolic with impunity, this infa has a basis for it. http://topsecretz.net/blog/politiks/437.html
          1. Dimka off
            Dimka off 3 May 2013 10: 06 New
            +9
            I heard this not about Yanukovych but about Yushchenko. And this info, if I'm not mistaken, took place in the film "Orange Children of the Third Reich."
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 3 May 2013 13: 18 New
              +2
              Quote: Dimka off
              I heard this not about Yanukovych but about Yushchenko.

              This information is correct. And an investigation was carried out by journalists of the weekly 2000, and a lot of what they dug up about the "daddy"
          2. Drosselmeyer
            Drosselmeyer 3 May 2013 11: 51 New
            +5
            You are confused. Dad Yushchenko spoke about good coffee in Germany. On Yanyk, there is no information about the service on the Germans. Enough and two jail time in prison.
        2. domokl
          domokl 3 May 2013 10: 21 New
          12
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          With subsequent relocation to prison
          Why should he go to jail? He will hesitate, pass a law on the safety of his beloved, and move to teach political science at an American university ... Along with Saakashvili ... Look, you have already forgotten about the role of Ukraine in the Russian-Georgian war ... Silence and grace. ..We don’t say, Ukrainians don’t remember ... fellow
          1. igor67
            igor67 3 May 2013 10: 30 New
            +6
            Quote: domokl
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            With subsequent relocation to prison
            Why should he go to jail? He will admonish, pass a law on the safety of his beloved and move to teach at an American university political science... Along with Saakashvili ... Look, we already forgot about the role of Ukraine in the Russian-Georgian war ... Quiet and grace ... We don’t say, Ukrainians don’t remember ... fellow

            You plus laughing he will learn how to steal hats on the run, I was generally shocked how twice a convict could become president, his flocks were far from for politics negative
            1. domokl
              domokl 3 May 2013 10: 36 New
              11
              Quote: igor67
              I was really shocked how a twice-convicted person could become president, his flocks were far from being politi
              Rape under the USSR in modern Ukraine equates to political persecution laughing So he's like a prisoner of conscience
              1. PSih2097
                PSih2097 3 May 2013 12: 13 New
                +2
                Rape under the USSR in modern Ukraine equates to political persecution


                it’s interesting to know what drove him to the zone, “Mashka”, “dunk”, because in the days of the USSR for such articles (Article 117 of the Criminal Code) they did not stand on ceremony ...
                1. Mefodiy
                  Mefodiy 3 May 2013 12: 45 New
                  -4
                  Quote: PSih2097
                  it’s interesting to know what drove him to the zone, “Mashka”, “dunk”, because in the days of the USSR for such articles (Article 117 of the Criminal Code) they did not stand on ceremony ...

                  The cops told me that it was "HAM"
                  1. Tartary
                    Tartary 3 May 2013 13: 20 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Mefodiy
                    The cops told me that it was "HAM"

                    Oh, how romantic ... Looks very different from simple "dunes" differed in passion and pressure ...
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 3 May 2013 08: 50 New
      +7
      Quote: vladsolo56
      the division of Ukraine took place de facto.


      Raised bloodsuckers on his neck. It’s purely my opinion - the sooner Ukraine gets rid of Bender’s regions, the faster it starts to live.
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 3 May 2013 09: 05 New
        +5
        Quote: Geisenberg
        It’s purely my opinion - the sooner Ukraine gets rid of Bender’s regions, the faster it starts to live.


        You can get rid of bandera regions only by closing the cannibalistic State Department project "Ukraine". Having begun its existence (1991) with more than 52 million people, according to the 2001 census. --- 48,457 million people. The authorities are no longer eager to conduct a census - for it turns out that it is not right to conduct a census, but to roll over, or according to the Book of Evening Verification, to take into account the remnants of the people.
        A Ukrainian president comes out and orders: "BY NUMBER ORDER - CALCULATE", and satisfied with the fruits of his efforts to put people into graves, he bows to the portrait of Adolf aloisovich Shiklgruber.
    4. T-100
      T-100 3 May 2013 09: 11 New
      +9
      It’s time to tear off the Crimea from them, as it once was an independent territorial division and leave Ukraine within its historical borders, then join the part where the population is pro-Russian, then pro-Western, let it die and don’t even pay attention to them and turn off the gas for them, light and do not trade, such shit should not be a pity. As the saying goes: A family has its black sheep. It’s better to make the Serbs named brothers than to call a brother a brother)))
      1. zennon
        zennon 3 May 2013 10: 00 New
        -1
        T-100
        Bravo! Better not write! good
      2. Artmark
        Artmark 3 May 2013 11: 35 New
        +7
        Greetings. And what about ordinary people who are not in politics, who thinks how to feed their families? Have you thought? If something should happen, then everything will be empty with little blood! hi
      3. ZuluS
        ZuluS 6 May 2013 04: 08 New
        -2
        Ha ha ha At first, you’ll reject Moscow from the Khachiks and Chechens, rejector of horseradish. Soon you will be cut instead of sheep on Red Square. To tear off the Crimea ... The rejection has not yet grown. Made laugh! laughing
    5. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 3 May 2013 09: 27 New
      12
      Quote: vladsolo56
      only on the Party of Regions, as soon as it loses influence,

      And the party of regions and Yanek himself no longer has influence on the country. The West of Ukraine openly spits on him and his party. The east of Ukraine also spits on Yanek, people live on their own. In fact, in Ukraine there is complete anarchy, more like anarchy, where the local princes essentially turned into such mini-presidents and pass laws in spite of Kiev.
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 3 May 2013 09: 38 New
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov

        And the party of regions and Yanek himself no longer has influence on the country.


        He in the very center weakly and listlessly affects something.

        How many years have passed since Yushchenko left before:

        Kiev, May 02 (New Region, Sergey Rulev) - A stand was opened in the Kiev Museum of the Great Patriotic War telling about the activities of Ukrainian nationalists from the OUN-UPA. The exposition “Ukrainian rebel army: the history of the disobedient” was opened in 2007 in accordance with the decree of President Viktor Yushchenko on the occasion of the 65th anniversary of the creation of the UPA.

        “I can say that after the arrival of the new president, Viktor Yanukovych, we turned to many veteran organizations, consulted with them with a request that they remove the hall with a kind of“ military glory ”of the people you mentioned. I see that both the authorities and the museum management have listened, and today we do not see such people, ”said Vadim Kolesnichenko, deputy of the Verkhovna Rada, to the“ New Region ”.

        http://www.nr2.ru/kiev/437203.html

        From 1 min. 04 sec.
    6. Phoenix-D
      Phoenix-D 3 May 2013 09: 52 New
      -1
      We are waiting for the division of Ukraine not only according to ideological preferences, but also along political borders.
      I believe that the Republic of Crimea, the Donbass Federal Republic, Transcarpathia, ZAPUKR - the Western Ukrainian Republic (Galicia), and actually central Ukraine will become independent.
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 3 May 2013 09: 57 New
        18
        Quote: Phoenix-D
        ZAPUKR - West Ukrainian Republic (Galicia),


        Do not you think that instead of using the term "ZAKUKR", it is more accurate to use the term Galitsaysko-Volyn National District, abbreviated first letters - H A B N O? Your other statements, personally from me, do not cause objections.
        1. Mefodiy
          Mefodiy 3 May 2013 12: 50 New
          -17
          Quote: Hudo
          Quote: Phoenix-D
          ZAPUKR - West Ukrainian Republic (Galicia),


          Do not you think that instead of using the term "ZAKUKR", it is more accurate to use the term Galitsaysko-Volyn National District, abbreviated first letters - H A B N O? Your other statements, personally from me, do not cause objections.

          And we will call residents of the Moscow region Ch M O (Man of the Moscow Region) wink
          1. Hudo
            Hudo 3 May 2013 14: 19 New
            -1
            Quote: Mefodiy
            Quote: Hudo
            Quote: Phoenix-D
            ZAPUKR - West Ukrainian Republic (Galicia),


            Do not you think that instead of using the term "ZAKUKR", it is more accurate to use the term Galitsaysko-Volyn National District, abbreviated first letters - H A B N O? Your other statements, personally from me, do not cause objections.

            And we will call residents of the Moscow region Ch M O (Man of the Moscow Region) wink



            Nothing will come of it. How many lichen Galitsai jackal do not feed, the Russian bear is still thicker! laughing
          2. smile
            smile 3 May 2013 14: 30 New
            11
            Mefodiy
            Yes, do not be offended ... they don’t take offense at the Ukrainians, but over the brainless Bondera geeks ... the dregs of the Ukrainian people that poison the lives of both you and us ... more to you ...
          3. Babon
            Babon 3 May 2013 16: 12 New
            +4
            You know, I myself live in Moscow, and sometimes I call my friends, from the Moscow region, as a joke, in response, they also say something to me, it's a joke. Do not turn a local joke into an insult.
          4. korm-yurii
            korm-yurii 3 May 2013 19: 24 New
            +2
            But how are you Methodius, will you go to work after 15?
      2. Dimka off
        Dimka off 3 May 2013 10: 10 New
        +2
        the main thing is that the separation takes place without bloodshed. Ato, the Nazis can try to start a civil war. And there will be involved and larger forces.
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 3 May 2013 14: 23 New
          0
          Quote: Dimka off
          the main thing is that the separation takes place without bloodshed. Ato, the Nazis can try to start a civil war. And there will be involved and larger forces.


          A divorce according to the Czechoslovak soft scenario is not possible, but the Yugoslav scenario is very likely. Both in Yugoslavia and in the Outskirts, low-uterine mutants of the Austro-Hungarian selection (Croats and Galitsai) will not be tempted to arrange a bloody storm.
        2. Vladimir 70
          Vladimir 70 3 May 2013 17: 44 New
          0
          the main thing is that the separation takes place without bloodshed. Ato, the Nazis can try to start a civil war. And there will be involved and larger forces.
          But without bloodshed is unlikely to do. European people will do everything to organize a civil war
      3. RU_PATRIOT
        RU_PATRIOT 3 May 2013 15: 19 New
        -18
        Yes, for ten years now you have been waiting and dreaming that Ukraine would wash itself in the blood of a civil war, and everything will not be divided. And new generations brought up in a national spirit grow and replace old-timers-scoops.
        1. Blackky
          Blackky 3 May 2013 15: 24 New
          0
          Quote: RU_PATRIOT
          raised in a national spirit are growing

          And riding on a boar, a petka leaves urkaina.
        2. smile
          smile 3 May 2013 17: 13 New
          +5
          RU_PATRIOT
          Well, why do we need a massacre in Ukraine? What dreams ... do not judge by yourself ... and we sympathize with the Ukrainians - indeed, you have enough Bandera ub..kov. who are trying to drive Ukraine into the trash ... and so they have put the Ukrainian economy on the brink of an abyss - it’s not enough for them .... idietten ... your joy is that more and more young people are appearing, who instead of brains have liquid Bandera soup on ersatzsala akin to joy a cancer patient happily watching how metastases grow .... Ukrainians feel sorry for them, looking at people like you ...
          1. RU_PATRIOT
            RU_PATRIOT 3 May 2013 17: 22 New
            -8
            Compassion for yourself

            Russia loses to Ukraine in terms of living
            Compared the standard of living in Russia with Ukraine, the conclusion is clear
            “In several articles the topic of the living wage and average expenses in these two states was raised. Now we can clearly say that in Ukraine the standard of living is higher than in Russia, but with the only amendment that we exclude Moscow and St. Petersburg .. . "

            http://www.gazeta.ru/money/2013/04/23_e_5277853.shtml
            1. karbofos
              karbofos 3 May 2013 20: 22 New
              +9
              RU_PATRIOT about a higher standard of living in Ukraine can be more detailed? neighing hunt
              1. RU_PATRIOT
                RU_PATRIOT 3 May 2013 22: 11 New
                -3
                Do you have enough brains to copy-paste into the browser line the link to go to the article? It’s a shame to laugh with such “intellectuals”.
          2. ZuluS
            ZuluS 6 May 2013 04: 24 New
            -3
            Have pity on yourself and sympathize with yourself! Everything in Nenko by the way! We’ll plant a boor, we will evict Putin’s licking and 80 percent of the problems will go away on their own!
      4. radar75
        radar75 3 May 2013 15: 36 New
        -17
        Dreams, dreams, where is your joy. Dreams are gone - disgusting remains ... Chuvache, ask RUN in Google. Russian-speaking Ukrainian nationalists. These are the guys from the east and south of Ukraine. They will tell you about separation.
        Although, you probably get paid for this.
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 3 May 2013 16: 27 New
          +6
          Quote: radar75
          Chuvache, ask RUN in Google


          You are your low uterine grip and poking, leave for your sexual partners in the combat hopak, who apparently already have overdone you.

          Quote: radar75
          Russian-speaking Ukrainian nationalists. These are the guys from the east and south of Ukraine. They will tell you about separation.


          Do not entertain yourself with illusions about the parents of the schoolchildren, whose “exploits” are simply dung for the growth of a political uncle’s political career.

          Quote: radar75
          Although, you probably get paid for this.


          (FU, poking again) Poked, do not attribute your dirty qualities to others.
      5. ZuluS
        ZuluS 6 May 2013 04: 15 New
        0
        I could never understand such organisms, tsuka, it lives in Ukraine and is waiting for its separation! Go work, read books, translate grandmothers across the roads, do something useful am .
    7. TUMAN
      TUMAN 3 May 2013 10: 53 New
      +6
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Legally, as long as everything rests only on the Party of Regions, as soon as it loses its influence, separation will be final.

      You are a little wrong, RyGynaly created "Freedom", and it was financed by the habadnik Kolomoisky. What do you think, for what? At a certain moment, they should play a role, as Lutsenko is currently playing his role, and Tymoshenko also has a role to play, in this game for the division of Ukraine. The chess game seems to have begun, and the pieces actively began the game. After all, even with the "orange" shoble, this was not. Everything suggests that the division of Ukraine is inevitable, and is being implemented.
      1. xan
        xan 3 May 2013 14: 39 New
        +2
        Quote: TUMAN
        The chess game seems to have begun, and the pieces actively began the game.

        Kremlin would not spoil
    8. Vovka levka
      Vovka levka 3 May 2013 12: 07 New
      0
      Quote: vladsolo56
      the division of Ukraine took place de facto. The authorities are trying to combine incompatible. Legally, as long as everything rests only on the Party of Regions, as soon as it loses its influence, separation will be final. The only question is how, peacefully or not. Judging by the mood of western Ukraine, most likely not very much. It seems to me that the eastern regions should not turn away, but prepare for a similar scenario.

      Do not write nonsense.
      What is shown on television is written in newspapers and on the Internet has nothing to do with real life that exists in Ukraine. Well, people want "fried facts" to read, watch them. So they write all nonsense. If you are interested in what is happening in Ukraine, travel all over Ukraine and draw your own conclusions.
      1. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 3 May 2013 13: 47 New
        0
        Even in Soviet times in Western Ukraine travel It was dangerous, especially under its own power between cities. There could meet "partisans" who are now harassing WWII veterans and consider policemen and fascists heroes.
        1. Vovka levka
          Vovka levka 3 May 2013 14: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: ia-ai00
          Even in Soviet times in Western Ukraine travel It was dangerous, especially under its own power between cities. There could meet "partisans" who are now harassing WWII veterans and consider policemen and fascists heroes.

          It is you, dear tales, who are rolling out that they have no contact with real life.
        2. RU_PATRIOT
          RU_PATRIOT 3 May 2013 15: 22 New
          -2
          there is nothing to go to these Westerners who mow under Europe, they build houses for themselves. Better in the Dagestan Zindan, a slave to the gardens, they at least hate the United States too.
          1. ia-ai00
            ia-ai00 3 May 2013 16: 47 New
            +2
            I didn’t go there or go! I just have to admire the beauties of Kazakhstan and Russia. Although my father was Ukrainian, in Soviet times he was indignant at the political activities of Ukraine!
            1. RU_PATRIOT
              RU_PATRIOT 3 May 2013 17: 04 New
              -9
              Well, well, if they would have dumped from Ukraine all the champions of the Russian world to admire the beauties of Kazakhstan, Russia and other EVRAZES. Build your own Asian paradise, study and replicate your historical fables and horror stories and do not interfere with the development of normal people.
              1. ia-ai00
                ia-ai00 3 May 2013 17: 09 New
                +2
                In the "fables" you can not surpass!
              2. The comment was deleted.
            2. Technocrat
              Technocrat 3 May 2013 20: 55 New
              +2
              I don’t know how your father is, and my father-in-law left Kazakhstan in early 2000 to answer the question “why”, a short and clear answer was received - the local population.
              I am an ardent supporter of the revival of the Russian state, but this time without you Kazakhs and your kind.
              1. tommy1984
                tommy1984 4 May 2013 21: 51 New
                +3
                "I am an ardent supporter of the revival of the Russian state"

                Yes, this is especially visible on your flag.

                "this time without you Kazakhs and your kind"

                so how did the Kazakhs prevent the revival of the Great Power?
                Kazakhstan today is perhaps the last country on the former scoop, which has no special problems with Russia. And without good friends in the neighborhood, you will revive great power for a long time. hi
            3. Scythian 35
              Scythian 35 4 May 2013 09: 16 New
              +2
              and what "political activity" of Ukraine in Soviet times your father was indignant. The first time I hear about this !!! wassat
          2. smile
            smile 3 May 2013 17: 22 New
            +1
            RU_PATRIOT
            Are you talking about those morons. that they destroyed the industry built by the entire Soviet Union, nailed their agriculture, which they were so proud of earlier and joyfully motivating guest workers to Europe, like unfortunate Tajiks to us? This is the ideal of life that you want for the whole of Ukraine? You have a strange psychology ... slavish ... even more strange that you are proud of it .... a nasty sight .... it looks like a patient with a venereal disease. dreaming not to recover, but to infect the normal members of his society with the same thing ...
          3. Piran
            Piran 4 May 2013 00: 37 New
            +1
            My uncle served in those parts for an urgent 2 years at the very border in the late 60s. To go out one at a time to a city or a village, he told me, never! They kept watch at all times, as if in occupied territory. My grandmother, his mother, went there on his vacation to him. She said that there were several Magyar villages nearby and the people there were angry. Very malicious comrades.
            1. RU_PATRIOT
              RU_PATRIOT 4 May 2013 00: 41 New
              -2
              So he was in the occupied territory.
      2. smile
        smile 3 May 2013 17: 17 New
        +3
        Vovka levka
        What are you doing ... travel ... a significant part of those here in Ukraine have relatives, so we know first-hand what is going on there
        1. Vovka levka
          Vovka levka 3 May 2013 21: 23 New
          0
          Quote: smile
          Vovka levka
          What are you doing ... travel ... a significant part of those here in Ukraine have relatives, so we know first-hand what is going on there

          The Slavs have a tradition of crying and telling how bad things are, especially to relatives.
    9. rolik
      rolik 3 May 2013 15: 19 New
      +2
      Well, let’s say, an independent one will be divided into 2 parts. And what will the Westerners get? Hot hugs of Romania? And what will they gain? Is it possible to live as a member of a rogue state with big advantages? In this case, they will lose grain and industrial regions. But the Easterners, for sure, will lose a minimum. But this is when viewed from a practical point of view. And the reality of life is such that the loss of part of the territory is the loss of a country's rating in the world. Acknowledgment that your country is a rotten rag. Which any flea tusik can break. And in this context, visions of this situation, the Ukrainian authorities have to make very tough decisions. Maybe even similar to ours in Chechnya. By force, return to the framework of the state the overgrown zapadentsev. And what this will mean is clear to everyone. Because the time of persuasion is long gone, the time has come for action. I am writing this not with gloating, but as an observer. Because to me, to be honest, absolutely exactly on their hemorrhoids. The main thing is that this does not affect my country. And because from the neighbors, except th .... on, recently, nothing has come to us. And on May 9, I can say that this Zapadenskaya PAD ... L will do everything to once again .... be in history. And this is not even surprising, since these genetic scum are simply not capable of anything else.
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    10. nok01
      nok01 3 May 2013 15: 22 New
      +5
      Nobody will give up the “zapadents” half the country ... and there is a small percentage of the radical-minded there, although this is only for now. Nationalist parties persistently promote their ideals and principles, and most importantly, they begin to do this from schools!
    11. Corsair
      Corsair 3 May 2013 17: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Legally, as long as everything rests only on the Party of Regions, as soon as it loses influence, the separation will take place completely. The only question is how, peacefully or not.

      Nothing rests on the PR, it plunged into corruption and property scandals. The eastern regions, the Center and Crimea lost faith in the empty promises of Yanuponchik, who is engaged in the deriban of his own country, flirting with the West and Moscow, instead of working for his people. Yanek as a political figure is not needed East and West of Ukraine. Long before the end of his presidency, he became a "lame duck"
    12. wow
      wow 3 May 2013 23: 58 New
      +2
      Zapadenskoe !!! I hate these creatures !!!
    13. Yoshkin Kot
      Yoshkin Kot 4 May 2013 16: 18 New
      -1
      I love Ukraine so much that I want more of them (s) Svidomo Cat Leopold laughing
  2. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 3 May 2013 07: 10 New
    22

    The western regions of Ukraine seriously intend to declare May 9 a day of mourning. Moreover, the relevant bills have already been adopted by the Lviv and Ivano-Frankivsk city councils. According to these documents, festive processions are forbidden on Victory Day, as well as the use of symbols of the Soviet era, including the red flag and military orders of veterans. Such a decision of the local authorities (which, by the way, are mostly represented by “Svobodovites”) causes misunderstanding and bewilderment, because according to Ukrainian legislation the May 9 holiday is recognized as an official state holiday. Obviously, Ukrainian laws mean nothing to neo-fascists.


    Isn't it time to make a roll-call list of this trash?

    1. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 3 May 2013 07: 47 New
      28
      Federalization is needed. Please note, Most of all they scream about independent Ukraine, those who were not Ukraine, but were hired by someone. Those who cry abroad before the age of 39 were the most crying out about the Holodomor. Most of all, those who scream about the purity of the nation are those whose blood is already mixed from blond northerners to black Hungarian gypsies. But the worst thing is that this minuscule of crooks, who kept the people in fear during the war, again climbed out of the caches and again terrorized the people. What to do? Comply with international laws. Penal Code to comply. If there is no strength, desire and ability to fight against neo-fascism, historically we will ask the neighbors to cleanse the land of this evil. Who cursed Ukraine as a state. Already presented on a silver platter. Nate, take it. Independent and independent. And what is the result. The hetmans traditionally crossed ... and showed that the term Nezalezhnaya and Samostiina did not take root, historically.
      1. Nicholas C.
        Nicholas C. 3 May 2013 08: 16 New
        +3
        Quote: Captain Vrungel
        If there is no strength, desire and ability to fight against neo-fascism, historically we will ask the neighbors to cleanse the land of this evil.

        Historically, the last time Bogdan Khmelnitsky cleared his land of the then Nazis along with the Polish occupiers. Russia then was only after the turmoil and was not ready for the requests of Khmelnitsky. But it was very bad, unbearable in Little Russia.
    2. Hleb
      Hleb 3 May 2013 07: 58 New
      20
      everyone fights to the best of their ability_
    3. Hudo
      Hudo 3 May 2013 08: 44 New
      -1
      Quote: GreatRussia

      Isn't it time to make a roll-call list of this trash?



      It has long been time for the defendants on this list to be taken out of the parapet, and allowed into consumption.
  3. queen
    queen 3 May 2013 07: 35 New
    +8
    They themselves want a split, and these dogs work out their rations. And we can soon start a war, that's just a matter of time, but how would this not be desirable.
    1. Dimka off
      Dimka off 3 May 2013 10: 14 New
      +4
      nothing help in the war. There are still many normal people in Ukraine.
      1. queen
        queen 3 May 2013 17: 10 New
        0
        Quote: Dimka off
        There are still a lot of normal people in Ukraine

        No ... again no ... fight against and for your people ....
  4. omsbon
    omsbon 3 May 2013 07: 36 New
    +7
    Three times right A.V. Suvorov "Undercut forest grows!". We regretted at the time Bandera coves, now we have what we have. I hope that the central government in Ukraine will cancel delusional decisions.
  5. Hleb
    Hleb 3 May 2013 07: 37 New
    +9
    me and 2011 remember well
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta 3 May 2013 08: 00 New
      30
      maybe that's why they don’t let her out? wassat
      1. MG42
        MG42 3 May 2013 12: 28 New
        +4
        Quote: djon3volta
        maybe that's why they don’t let her out? wassat

        The network has a drawing of Hitler with a scythe like Tymoshenko’s head lol Tymoshenko = destructive in nature, (however, for Russia, with its direct participation, the most advantageous gas contract was signed, and it is extremely unprofitable for Ukraine), >>> but where will Yanukovych lead the country?
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 3 May 2013 08: 01 New
      +3
      Yes, this abomination must be destroyed, like a cancer tumor, surgically.
      1. donchepano
        donchepano 3 May 2013 09: 23 New
        0
        Quote: Vladimirets

        Yes, this abomination must be destroyed, like a cancer tumor, surgically.


        Which one? Julia Kapitelmansha?
    3. Marat
      Marat 3 May 2013 16: 45 New
      +8
      I am ashamed to live with such scum in one country !!!
      1. Blackky
        Blackky 3 May 2013 16: 47 New
        -9
        Suitcase-station-Pyongyang. You will live there in a socialist paradise, eating grass.
      2. queen
        queen 3 May 2013 16: 50 New
        +6
        Quote: Marat
        I am ashamed to live with such scum in one country !!!

        We lived in the same Country, and there were no these scum ... + huge to you, thank you.
        1. Blackky
          Blackky 3 May 2013 16: 51 New
          +1
          Quote: regin
          and there were no these scum

          They disguised themselves.
          1. queen
            queen 3 May 2013 17: 06 New
            +2
            Quote: Blackky
            Quote: regin
            and there were no these scum

            They disguised themselves.

            No, they didn’t exist. There wasn’t at all ... and there were no offended benderlogs either ... creating a negative that contradicts the truth is not difficult, and driving people into the mind absolutely not understanding that we are united as a nation and born under Pepsi. ..easy ... two or three years, and we will have a citizen, and who said that we will have an Olympics? One major terrorist attack near Sochi, everyone who participated was lathering money ... and the facilities were already built in South Korea ...
      3. Shawnee
        Shawnee 3 May 2013 16: 58 New
        +4
        I am ashamed to live with such scum in one country !!!

        Better to live humanly. wassat

        otherwise many have a memory loss. Well, let me remind you.
    4. RU_PATRIOT
      RU_PATRIOT 3 May 2013 17: 17 New
      -8
      Lviv provocation through the eyes of an eyewitness

      ru_indeec
      May 9, 2011
      I am not interested in politics, but still I can’t help but write about what I witnessed today near the Lviv Hill of Glory. Sorry, did not take the camera.

      So, walking along Lychakivskaya, I saw a large group of people with red and Russian flags, banners, posters.
      Of course, I read that the action of the pro-Russian party "Russian Unity" either took place in Lviv, or did not take place ... everything was confused there. Well, I think we’ve arrived.

      I was hoping that Lvivites had enough sobriety not to succumb to provocations of PR people who were greedy for someone else’s attention, but when I saw what the "protesters" had weaned, my trace disappeared from my hope.

      They, as if on command, suddenly began to shout slogans insulting the locals. Moreover, mind you, the slogans are not political, but insulting people on a national basis. Most of all I remembered “hohly-parasha! This victory is ours!”, “Death to Galicia!” ... there were others.

      Of course, after a couple of minutes a scuffle ensued. Since the numerical superiority was, of course, not on the side of the provocateurs, they had to run away. And then shots came from them.

      Now, when I go to the news sites, I see a spread of “noodles” in the form of hundreds of news that claim that peaceful demonstrators peacefully carried wreaths to the eternal flame, and suddenly for no reason they were attacked by the Lviv fascists. Or, the news, that Bendera attacked a demonstration of veterans and beat them; and tons of cranberry noodles.

      I think that in any city, if you go loudly shouting curses at his population, then this will not end in good. What is the peculiarity of Lviv, which they are now trying to set up as an outpost of fascism?

      Such a well-thought-out, and essentially a win-win provocation.

      The goals of its organizers are interesting. She certainly will not add love to the Russians, and the West and the East will not unite.
      The purpose of the action, I believe, can only be the fomentation of an interethnic conflict, or the PR of your party against this background.

      The representative of the pro-Russian party that organized the provocation, before holding the march, claimed that his goal was to protect the rights of Russians living in Lviv.

      Well, special thanks to him for protecting my rights. For example, I don’t know the Ukrainian language, just as I don’t know whether the city residents will now want to answer me in Russian.
      1. queen
        queen 3 May 2013 17: 40 New
        0
        Quote: RU_PATRIOT
        The purpose of the action, I think, can only be the fomentation of ethnic conflict

        I don’t think that you and I are the reason for this, they are enraged by the fact that we made them people.
        1. ZuluS
          ZuluS 6 May 2013 04: 36 New
          -2
          Hahaha! Maybe they just don’t realize that you did something with them. laughing Fuck, gum is resting! laughing
      2. Curculum
        Curculum 3 May 2013 18: 32 New
        +7
        Quote: RU_PATRIOT
        Sorry, did not take the camera

        Damn, and in the mobile, the camera was gum stuck - it was too lazy to rip off. Yes, and what I came and went to watch - I don’t know. belay
        This is always the case with such scribblers: either a deaf shark is caught, or a whistle is broken.
      3. El13
        El13 3 May 2013 19: 22 New
        +3
        Quote: RU_PATRIOT
        ... Of course, after a couple of minutes a scuffle ensued. Since the numerical superiority was, of course, not on the side of the provocateurs, they had to run away ...

        Here comes a demonstration - a crowd of people, and then from the bushes two minutes later the numerically superior local population at once ... well, rare passers-by organized themselves and rebuffed the provocateurs ... such a lively picture.
        Provocation is your post, dear.
        1. Garrin
          Garrin 3 May 2013 19: 29 New
          +3
          Quote: El13
          Provocation is your post, dear.

          And small and nasty. Like, defecate under the door of a neighbor.
  6. Trailer
    Trailer 3 May 2013 07: 43 New
    12
    In principle, if nationalists go against the law, then they need to be arrested? If they do not agree with the outcome of the war, then they must return their territories to Poland and others. And they themselves must self-destruct, because according to the unwritten results of the war they should have been erased according to the OST plan.
    1. queen
      queen 3 May 2013 07: 50 New
      +5
      Quote: Karavan
      if nationalists go against the law

      And now they call it crap, and the independence (the word is like a woman lying around anywhere) insanity grows stronger, only the prevention of lobotomy. It’s cruel, but it’s not genocide smile
    2. Tatar
      Tatar 3 May 2013 08: 25 New
      +4
      I agree, the government itself violates the law. as if this is not new, but if contrary to the official cue, then it is possible in a boiler with burning resin. and where does DERMOcratic Europe look?
      1. DmitriRazumov
        DmitriRazumov 3 May 2013 17: 11 New
        +4
        Quote: Tatar
        and where does DERMOcratic Europe look?


        Such a policy has been characteristic of Europe for many centuries. They are afraid and do not understand Russia in the West, so even to the detriment of themselves they constantly create the so-called Europe around Europe. sanitary cordons. It was even under Ivan the Terrible. The kings of Denmark and Sweden wrote letters to Elizabeth, in which they strongly advised against the admission of doctors, pharmacists and other service people to Russia, and even prevented private visits of people at the borders. In the period before 1 MV, the manifestation of such an attitude became especially characteristic. Europe essentially raised Hitler and his party to confront the East with the wrong hands. Then they pushed the Nazis to the USSR, giving them without a single shot the Rhine region, Saarland, Austria, Czechoslovakia and having concluded a separate peace with Hitler in Munich long before the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. At the present stage, almost the same thing is being done, the most unbridled Nazi regimes in Ukraine, the Baltic States and others are being nurtured and encouraged. In this way, EU countries violate not only their own and international laws, but also the provisions of the Nuremberg process, at which all Nazi and collaborationist laws were clearly decided. (OUN-UPA, etc.) with them, organizations are considered criminal.
    3. Kaa
      Kaa 3 May 2013 10: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: Karavan
      if nationalists go against the law - then they need to be arrested?
      WHAT FOR? THEY ARE AUTHORITIES OX HOW HOW TO NEED ... AFTER A YEAR AND A half. There will be just new presidential elections, neither the opposition nor the authorities have anything to boast about in the economy. In politics ... does Ukraine really have its own foreign policy? But in the inside, Natsik will come in handy, they will frighten voters with them, and they will protect them ... for the right time!
      1. queen
        queen 3 May 2013 16: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: Kaa
        there will be new presidential elections, neither the opposition nor the authorities have anything to boast about in the economy

        If Timokha comes out, the end of Ukraine ... that’s what’s going on ... they will have a citizen ... and will cover us.
  7. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 3 May 2013 07: 45 New
    +6
    Moreover, the logic of decisions taken by regional authorities is rather difficult to understand. After all, according to the same Melnichuk, Lviv how a European city should adhere to the European practice of honoring the dead in the second world war. But at the same time, it is he who proposes to declare days of mourning not only 9th, but also 8th May, that is, the day when all of Europe celebrates victory over fascist Germany ...

    Well? And where are all the angry condemnations, indignation on the part of the TALVED geyropa (a rhetorical question, the answer is already obvious)?
    1. queen
      queen 3 May 2013 07: 52 New
      +6
      Quote: GreatRussia
      indignation on the part of the henna geyrope

      The entire geyropa is sitting under other fascist followers from across the ocean.
  8. Egoza
    Egoza 3 May 2013 07: 57 New
    14
    “According to the tradition established by the“ creative intelligentsia, ”the last few years, May 9, has been declared in three regions of Ukraine“ a day of mourning for the victims of the communist regime. ”
    This time, Lviv authorities (apparently sexual) authorities decided to ban Soviet and fascist symbols in the region. When the racially correct Galician sees the coat of arms of the Soviet Union, the Banner of Victory, he begins to cramp. Nervous breakdowns and diarrhea are a typical reaction of tolerant residents of Lviv to the symbols of a “totalitarian past”. Therefore, they must be immediately banned. They always do. Do you like Russian music on FM stations? Deny. A law on regional languages ​​adopted? On the territory of a racially correct region, he should not act. Someone called the girl Masha? Provided prolonged tantrum with indicative salivation. No one dares to insult the genetic feelings of true Ukrainian patriots. They lived their whole life in occupation.
    Therefore, according to the Galician version of history, on May 9, the Nazis lost the war to the Stalin's minions, thereby condemning independent Galicia to new slavery. That is precisely why May 9, the Great Victory Day over fascism, Lviv people light candles, mourn the Germans-liberators and recall the “heroic struggle” of soldiers from caches for freedom of the nation. They constantly masturbate with shouts of "glory to the heroes!" and try to spit in the face of veterans of the Great Patriotic War.

    Even a few red carnations can cause fierce hatred among the inhabitants of the most intelligent and dirtiest “metropolis” of the country. I'm not talking about the St. George ribbon, which leads them into real ecstasy. As a result, Galichina is the birthplace of Ukrainian fascism. The ban on the symbolism of the "Great Reich", which is perceived by a significant part of the population of the western regions as a historical ally in the fight against the "Soviet occupation", should not deceive anyone. Imagine that young people of a characteristic “Svobodovskoy” appearance (sort of faces of Galich nationality) dressed in SS uniform will take to the street. ” Read the full article here - http://www.versii.com/news/278228/

    And here is the reaction of people on the forum
    Contemporary (April 30, 06:34)
    One word creature.

    Dumb (April 30, 09:49)
    guys, you won’t believe, there are normal people in Lviv. for example, I =)
    not all fascists, there is an intelligentsia who does not like Nazism, there is a small Russian-speaking population. You can’t put us all under one comb. Although, when I hung around Europe, I was ashamed to admit where I came from, because it is really about Lviv Nazism and the Bandera monument , they know everything. Especially if you remember about the broken diyiziya SS Galichina, which the Germans threw into Slovakia as punishers. About this fact, the old people remember.
    Xxx
    Anna_Kharkov (April 30, 09:34)
    "The governor of the Kharkiv region noted that the participants in the parade of vishivanoks are quite suitable for a gay parade. He said this on his page on Twitter.

    “A parade of embroidered dresses in honor of the SS Galicia division. Here you have a ready-made convoy for participation in the gay parade,” writes Dobkin. "At the same time, the governor calls on all Kharkiv citizens to come on May 9 to the parade on Freedom Square.

    "And in Kharkov on May 9 there will be a military parade in honor of the Great Victory! Come at 10 in the morning to Svobody square and together we say, THANKS GRANDFATHER FOR VICTORY!"


    gost 02.05.2013/18/33, XNUMX:XNUMX
    The Galichan cattle-boat is called a bastard, - the dumb banderlogs of the tyneboki will not help you- Ghouls and pharyons, dig caches as quickly as possible- We’ll insert the pitchfork where you always have diarrhea - We’ll turn four times so that the hole is wider- And screaming run to hell-home
    1. Kaa
      Kaa 3 May 2013 09: 42 New
      +9
      Quote: Egoza
      they must be banned immediately. They always have
      "A booth called" Get up, Ukraine! " He continues his tour of the cities of the western regions over the past few days, he visited the regional centers of Chernivtsi, Ternopol, Ivano-Frankivsk, where at meetings with the three main political actors - Arseniy Yatsenyuk, Vitaliy Klichko and Oleg Tyagnybok - managed to collect 3-5 thousand spectators. About half of them are stage and entourage stars, relatives and acquaintances of local political activists, disguised employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Security Service of Ukraine, as well as student extras hired for the money. On the same rally in Lviv, students' services cost the opposition one hundred hryvnias from the nose. It seems that in other cities of Western Ukraine hired "protesters" cost her no more. So for just 10-15 thousand euros, she can gather a very decent crowd of young people who are passionately shocking with party banners and anti-government slogans. And although the action "Get up, Ukraine!" declared as part of the plan to “overthrow the regime”, although its main showmen promise the audience a spectacle of power running in a panic, it is exclusively peaceful. It must be assumed that the Ukrainian opposition is not going to overthrow anything. Because any real revolution is not an easy change of actors, it is a change of the ruling system. So the Ukrainian opposition does not want to change the current Ukrainian System, it just wants to lead it. In fact, the action “Get up, Ukraine!” conceived as a repetition of the action of the same name a decade ago. Conceived exclusively as a pre-election show with the goal of promoting future opposition presidential candidates. So they will amuse the public until the 2015 elections, and then a traditional vote will take place, after which the victorious dances on the stage or mournful squeals to the world community will begin. However, this is not only why the Ukrainian opposition avoids getting into trouble. The thing is that they cannot take and reset the “regime” for a banal reason: the Ukrainian revolution has a lot of leaders, but it has absolutely no fighters. Supporters of the Freedom Institute, or members of other nationalist clubs, wave, enthusiastic, as if they really believe that Bandera will really come. But at the same time, they hardly understand that this slogan reflects the best the essence of the mentality of today's Ukrainians: if someone had come, he would have done everything for us! And what did the ideological imitators of Bandera achieve, to whom power fell into the hands of heaven ?. How was it used by the Ukrainian nationalists who have ruled the western regions of Ukraine for twenty years? No way. They did not even manage to arrange garbage removal from settlements. What for? “Bandera will come - he will take away the garbage!” It will also clear snow, pave roads, repair pipes, open kindergartens, and at the same time erect monuments to itself ..These people are good at only one thing - to ban. Russian language, non-Ukrainian songs, objectionable parties. All their ebullient activity is mainly aimed at banning, because, in their understanding, for this it is enough to draw up and sign a piece of paper - and the ban is ready! But precisely because all of their prohibitions do not work, because no one watches their execution. Everyone wants to be leaders in order to only give orders, but no one wants to execute and work.
      Therefore, with all the appearance of intense activity, the right-wing Ukrainian opposition is as much a bunch of political impotent people as all other domestic “revolutionaries”. Among them there are a lot of leaders, but there are absolutely no performers. There are many “field commanders”, but no “soldiers of the revolution”. http://from-ua.com/politics/d3966a1205add.html
      1. Radoslav
        Radoslav 3 May 2013 14: 49 New
        +4
        Fidget, I saw you. You (you) are constantly fighting in the World of TANKS, train with us to go into a real battle soon. Yes, no men go into battle, but we need battle sisters.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 3 May 2013 15: 02 New
          0
          what are your nicknames in the world of tanks?
        2. Egoza
          Egoza 3 May 2013 16: 51 New
          +2
          Quote: Radoslav
          Fidget I saw you, you (you) are constantly fighting in World of TANKS,

          Well no. It's not me. There is no time for games. A nickname egoza is quite common.
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    3. Scythian 35
      Scythian 35 6 May 2013 20: 19 New
      0
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3z2wheJWyk


      This is you about this great guy, I think veterans of emu nada like rings in the pope !!!
  9. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 3 May 2013 07: 59 New
    +6
    Yes, the grandfathers with Bandera did not work, did not work. see we have to finish
    1. igor67
      igor67 3 May 2013 08: 16 New
      +7
      Quote: Ragnarek
      Yes, the grandfathers with Bandera did not work, did not work. see we have to finish

      You are right in part, you didn’t modify it, because they were amnestied, (everyone who voluntarily left the forest), My relatives live in Ivano-Frankivsk region, the first time I got there back in 73 and then there were the same problems on May 9, All solved, it is possible to try on both the western and eastern parts of Ukraine, but in the absence of an economy it is politically advantageous to pit people off, the image of the enemy, people do not pay attention to the difficult economic situation and both former Yushchenko and present Yanukovych take advantage of this, the authorities have nothing to offer the people to crap on nationalism
  10. radio operator
    radio operator 3 May 2013 08: 01 New
    +7
    9 of May is the day of commemoration of common sense in the western regions of Ukraine. Amen.
  11. 501Legion
    501Legion 3 May 2013 08: 02 New
    15
    Shame on Ukraine and the Ukrainian people that they generally allow this to happen, recently it’s a fraternal country, lower and lower has fallen in my eyes
  12. Egoza
    Egoza 3 May 2013 08: 03 New
    11
    "The Lviv prosecutor’s office protested the decision of local authorities on the celebration of May 8 and 9. In particular, we are talking about the resolutions adopted by the City Council on April 25 “On declaring May 8 in Lviv as the Day of Sorrow and in Memory of the Victims of Totalitarian Regimes and the Victims of World War II” and “On the Prohibition of the Use of the Symbols of the USSR, Communist and Nazi Symbols in Lviv”. The appeal extends to a similar decision of the regional council, "said Maryana Gayovskaya, head of the press service of the regional prosecutor’s office.
    The prosecutor’s office noted that the decision of the Lviv City Council to ban the use, in particular, of copies of the Victory Banner during mass events is contrary to the provisions of the Law of Ukraine "On the Perpetuation of Victory in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945."
    However, according to Gayovskaya, the part of the City Council’s decree declaring May 8 in Lviv the Day of Sorrow, which provides for the establishment of the State Flag with mourning ribbons and the lowering of the State Flag of Ukraine on the buildings of state institutions, contradicts the requirements of the law. The adoption of such decisions relates exclusively to the authority of the Verkhovna Rada, the head of the press service of the regional prosecutor’s office noted. In this regard, prosecutors brought two lawsuits to the court demanding the cancellation of these parts of the decisions of the Lviv City Council.
    http://rus.newsru.ua/ukraine/02may2013/9travnya.html
    1. Kaa
      Kaa 3 May 2013 10: 20 New
      +6
      Quote: Egoza
      In this regard, prosecutors brought two lawsuits to the court demanding the cancellation of these parts of the decisions of the Lviv City Council.
      We have them at the door - they are at the window: "Besides this, The Ivano-Frankivsk City Council declared May 9 as the Day of Sorrow for those who died in the Second World War. Deputies also banned in the regional center the placement on the buildings and structures of enterprises, institutions and organizations, regardless of the form of ownership, of symbols of non-existent and unrecognized states (military units). "Http://rus.newsru.ua/ukraine/19apr2013/denpob.ht
      ml
      "At the deputy from" Fatherland " Yuri Stetsya is scheduled for May ... Subbotnik: "For us, this is not a holiday, but a day of occupational therapy. We will collect the children and we will clean the yard, garden, gather last year's leaves: we cultivate a love of work in them. I already had Easter two weeks ago, I the same Catholic, noted with his family, but on May 9 I don’t consider a holiday - rather a day of sorrow. But I always remember those who died in World War II. "Svobodovets "Igor Miroshnichenko will celebrate only Easter: “We are planning work in committees for May. Yes, I don’t think about the holiday on May 1, but I look forward to Easter, I’ll definitely go to St. Michael’s Cathedral, I’ll talk there right in front of the church, I do this every year. Then we’ll celebrate with my family , we always bake Easter, paint eggs. May 9 I will not celebratebut the 8th, when the victims of the Second World War are remembered all over the world, I’ll note. " His opponent, the communist Alexander Zubchevsky, on the contrary, will walk on May 1: “Of course, this is a great holiday for me. In the morning we will go out to the demonstration from the Communist Party, like every year, we will march, then we will celebrate. But I don’t celebrate Easter”.http: //rus.newsru.ua/ukraine/19apr2013/denpob.html
      HOW IS THERE IN A TALK WHERE TWO UKRAINIANS ARE THERE THREE HETMAN? FAR WAY, GO DIRECTLY TO TELL ON THE FISH OF THE BUTTERFLIES.
  13. Boris55
    Boris55 3 May 2013 08: 09 New
    +5
    Greetings from Khrushchev ... arranged an amnesty for the bastard in the 53, and now we need to disentangle ...
    1. Nicholas C.
      Nicholas C. 3 May 2013 08: 45 New
      +8
      Quote: Boris55
      Greetings from Khrushchev ... arranged a swine in the 53rd amnesty

      If you believe the memoirs of P. Sudoplatov, then it was Khrushchev who was a supporter of the eviction of Bandera from Galicia.

      Sudoplatov credits the NKVD with the fact that the NKVD leadership prevented Khrushchev from implementing this plan. But Bandera, Hitler’s supporters now hate the NKVD. Such is the paradox.
  14. O_RUS
    O_RUS 3 May 2013 08: 09 New
    +5
    As former Vice Prime Minister Mykola Tomenko likes to repeat: “The only thing that has been done in Ukraine is to prevent regional conflicts and ethnic hatred.” Beautiful in words, but not right in business.

    In May, one of the Kiev courts will begin a hearing on the charge of scientists rightfully representing the intellectual elite of the Ukrainian nation - Popovich, Mayborody, Yakovenko and Kulchitsky, in insulting the honor and dignity of the leadership of a certain Interregional Academy of Personnel Management. The fault of the professors is that they signed the statement “Against Xenophobia, for European Ukraine”. The academy was indicated in the statement as a “xenophobic” example. Which, in addition to training future administrators, is also engaged in publishing newspapers and magazines publishing articles that offend the national feelings of Ukrainian Jews. What is such an opus from the lips of the author of the MAUPovskaya newspaper - the director of the Book Chamber Nikolai Senchenko: “We are an amazing country. A person opens a newspaper or magazine, turns on a television or radio, watches and listens ... to a Jew. It got to the point that only the Jews reason about the Ukrainian mentality, about the fate of Ukraine. ” The idea of ​​the dominance of “non-Ukrainians” is hammered into the heads of students by “educators” - is it a joke, now at IAPM 57 thousand young people are listening to lectures by chauvinists and teachers. But the academics will not judge. And those scientists who do not agree with their xenophobic nonsense ...

    Last August, a yeshiva student Mordechai Molozhanov was brutally beaten in Kiev. And immediately after the well-known incident in the Moscow synagogue in Kiev, a follower of Koptsev, a certain Dobryansky, was found. This type wanted to repeat the “Moscow feat” in the choral synagogue in the center of Kiev. But near the guard, he dropped his stocked daggers, was disarmed and sent to the Pechersk district police department ... More recently, the editor-in-chief of Stolichniye Novosti and the VEK (All-Ukrainian Jewish Congress) newspaper Vladimir Katsman, incidentally, owns a newspaper that constantly enters into controversy with publications of the Interregional Academy.

    Ukrainian gypsies may consider themselves as hurt people. As far back as July 2002, the European Commission against Racism and Intolerance observed cases of xenophobia and racial intolerance towards Roma in Latvia and Ukraine. The problems of the 48th gypsy population of Ukraine are multiplying every year. As Vladimir Paniotto, head of the Kiev International Institute of Sociology, notes, “Xenophobia is growing in the country, especially towards non-Slavic peoples. The highest intolerance index is in relation to Roma. If in 2002 it was 5,75, then in 2003 it was already 5,89 ”. “Gypsy pogroms” flashed today and in Odessa and Transcarpathian regions, traditionally considered multinational, therefore, safe “by default”
    1. O_RUS
      O_RUS 3 May 2013 08: 10 New
      +4
      The Criminal Code of Ukraine contains article 161 - “inciting ethnic hatred”. Courts used it several times. In 2000, the Kharkiv District Court ruled to discontinue the publication of the Dzherelce (Rodnichok) newspaper, a children's publication, for publishing "To Every Layman - Seven Zhidovins." The article popularly explained to children that the idea of ​​revenge for the Ukrainian people has been nurtured by insidious “people” for 300 years, and cited “folk wisdom” such as “Zhida vbiy - forty grikhiv with souls” ... The newspaper was banned from publishing, and the editorial staff was fined 20 thousand hryvnias.

      In 2004, the court banned the newspaper "Village News" for publishing an article by Professor Vasily Yaremenko, "The Myth of Ukrainian Anti-Semitism." The professor called the Jews "social leeches, peeling the sticks of Ukrainian peasants." The newspaper after the intervention of the National Union of Journalists and the Guild of Chief Media Editors ... managed to defend. But the case was brought on by a professor. And thanks for that.

      The latest use of article 161 is during the presidential campaign. The State Committee for Nationalities and Migration tried to use it against Roman Kozak, a presidential candidate in Ukraine. Kozak in numerous television commercials against the backdrop of marching Bandera promised in case of coming to power to completely eradicate the Russian language in Ukraine ...
      1. Kaa
        Kaa 3 May 2013 10: 07 New
        +3
        Quote: O_RUS
        In the Criminal Code of Ukraine there is article 161 - “inciting ethnic hatred
        People's Deputy of Ukraine Vadim Kolesnichenko registered in parliament a draft resolution “On the prohibition of hate speech and expressions degrading human dignity” (regarding offensive statements “zh.i.d”, “kh.oh.o.l”, m.o. S.K.A.L. ”and others) No. 1152 of 21.12.2012/XNUMX/XNUMX. As stated in the text and in the explanatory note to the draft resolution, it was submitted to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine for the purpose of ensuring the rights and freedoms of man and citizen, improving the anti-discrimination legislation of Ukraine by prohibiting hostile language and expressions degrading human dignity.
        From domestic history - back in the second half of the XNUMXth century, the word "zhid" was banned by an imperial decree in the territory of the Russian Empire (replaced by the word "Jew"). The same ban was valid in the days of the USSR.The Committee of Ministers of the Council of Europe, in its Recommendation to the Member States No. R (97) 20 of 30.10.1997 on hate speech, defines hate speech as “all forms of self-expression, which include the dissemination, incitement, promotion or justification of racial hatred, xenophobia, anti-Semitism or other forms of hatred motivated by intolerance, including intolerance of expressions in the form of radical nationalism and ethnocentrism, discrimination and hostility towards minorities, migrants and immigrant people. ”The revival of racism, xenophobia, anti-Semitism in any form leads to increased tension on ethnic, linguistic and other grounds in Ukrainian society, which is extremely dangerous for its existence.Therefore, the draft resolution proposes to prohibit the use of the language of hostility and expressions degrading human dignity in government bodies, institutions and organizations, enterprises, educational institutions, science, culture, in the fields of communications and computer science. http://www.from-ua.com/politics/29d9994638251.html
    2. Kaa
      Kaa 3 May 2013 09: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: O_RUS
      A person opens a newspaper or magazine, turns on a television or radio, watches and listens ... to a Jew. It got to the point that only the Jews reason about the Ukrainian mentality, about the fate of Ukraine. ”
      "Regarding anti-Zionism in Ukraine, let's believe the Jews themselves - not only because they emit not quite understandable emotions, but those who operate with numbers. In the spring of 2012, the Jewish publication IzRus reported that experts from the Cantor Center for the Study of Contemporary European Jewry presented in Tel Aviv University, the results of the annual study of the manifestations of anti-Semitism in the world in 2011. According to this report, 446 anti-Semitic acts (attacks, acts of vandalism, threats against Jews) were recorded in the world. The document notes that the total number of shares has decreased compared to 2010, but acts of anti-Semitism have become more violent, especially in France, the UK and Canada, where 114, 105 and 68 such incidents were recorded, respectively. In total, 63% of anti-Semitic actions are committed in these three countries. And now attention. According to the same report, in Ukraine such "anti-Semitic actions" were recorded ... already 16. So who should Jews express to their "fairy" - Ukrainians or the French, British and other Western "democratic" party? But I'm talking about something else. In Ukraine, there is an unwritten taboo on the "Jewish theme", with very few exceptions - this can be easily seen by studying the Ukrainian media for all years of independence. Meanwhile Amid this vow of silence and under the cover of attacks on Ukrainian nationalism, amazing things are happening in the Jewish community in our country. Here I am fortunate enough to stumble upon an ad for children to study at the Simha Chabad Jewish school in Kiev. Full name - State Jewish educational complex “Simha-Chabad”. According to the official release, the Simha Chabad complex is one of the largest Jewish schools in the CIS and is officially one of the five best schools in Kiev. The institution, as its official name implies, is STATE. And in the same announcement of the government agency, I come across an astounding phrase: “The State Jewish educational complex“ Simha-Chabad ”is always open to all Jewish children of Kiev“If we call someone“ Ukrainian, ”speaking of Ukraine, this can mean both a Ukrainian by nationality and a citizen of Ukraine in general. But we agree: speaking of a Jew in Ukraine, we can only mean this nationality, and nothing more. And the phrase "Jewish children" can in no way mean representatives of any other nationalities.So, it is not clear to me why only Jewish children can come to a public school in Ukraine? . When admitting to any Jewish educational institution in Ukraine, the documents and “candidates” of the parents are necessarily studied. The main condition is their nationality. So nationalism in Ukraine is really flourishing. But this nationalism is not Ukrainian. http://hvylya.org/analytics/politics/natsionalizm-v-ukraine-protsvetaet-tolko-ne
      -ukrainskiy.html
  15. Egoza
    Egoza 3 May 2013 08: 13 New
    +3
    People’s Deputy of Ukraine Eduard Leonov (“Freedom” faction) asked the Prime Minister of Ukraine Mykola Azarov to verify the legality of the planned military parade in Sevastopol, in which the Russian military should also take part. This was reported to UNIAN in the press service of the All-Ukrainian association “Freedom”.
    The deputy also demands "to provide information about the persons who gave the appropriate permission, from what sources and how much money was directed to the event and on what grounds the foreign state advertises its military potential in Ukraine."
    Leonov notes that active preparations for a military parade continue during Sevastopol, during which they plan to demonstrate the strength of the army of a foreign state - the Russian Federation with the involvement of military equipment. “According to the Sevastopol Svobodovites, on April 29 at 22:00 the center of the city was blocked and taken out by numerous military units of a foreign state along with equipment: Grad multiple rocket launchers, air defense systems, long-range howitzers, etc.,” he notes. According to him, "the locals still feel occupied by the Soviet army, because this is not the first such event during which Russia will try to intimidate Ukrainians with a military presence and demonstrate its strength." “The behavior of the Russian military in Sevastopol testifies to the pronounced complex of the invader-loser, because they have long turned into a source of constant danger to the residents of Sevastopol and city guests
    http://news2000.com.ua/news/sobytija/v-ukraine/229244
    1. olegyurjewitch
      olegyurjewitch 3 May 2013 08: 57 New
      +4
      The second day I watch this news on the news, but for some reason only one Vesti24 channel covers this topic. Can it be that our government of the Russian Federation can not adequately respond to connivance of Kiev with the hostile, openly anti-Russian and anti-Ukrainian attacks of these nationalists, or deliberately dig a hole between our peoples? Victory Day is equally great both for Ukrainians and Russians, and for all those peoples of the former USSR, whose peoples defeated at the cost of their blood, at the cost of the lives of millions of their sons and daughters, a cruel evil enemy - Nazi Germany!
  16. Egoza
    Egoza 3 May 2013 08: 14 New
    17
    And again, people write
    boriselidi 02.05.2013/10/34, XNUMX:XNUMX
    Edyunichka. I understand that it’s of little use, but once again I remind you. Not only Ukrainians live in Ukraine. Crimea has nothing to do with Ukraine. The Russian army in Crimea has always been, is and will be. Fear of sergeant-major.
    Aquarius 02.05.2013/10/34, XNUMX:XNUMX
    Another Russophobe-svLotovets opened neo-fascist jaws. This "foreign state" Zapukriyu and your Banderstadt joined Ukraine, brought people of yours, Austro-Hungarian-Polish slaves and illiterate rags, to Banderoprice ... And you didn’t poke your snout in SEVASTOPOL. And the surname of this man, who was dressed with a Kutsim osseletts and embroidered, put on a T-shirt, is purely Russian — Leonov, and the name is not “broad Ukrainian”, - Edik, - what about the ideologist from Volota, Farion Goebbelsovna, such name and surname “sky” suffers in a friendly, neo-Nazi pack, huh?
    azhjores 02.05.2013/15/46, XNUMX:XNUMX
    note: "the locals AGAIN feel OCCUPIED by the SOVIET ARMY" - he considers himself local, and Crimea - Galicia?
    Vladimir59 02.05.2013/18/38, XNUMX:XNUMX
    I am from Sevastopol. This goat here did not shine with us. Squeals probably from Kiev. Here we seem to have some kind of supporters, but they’re sitting somewhere, they don’t particularly climb out. And the Parade will take place anyway. And there will be many people. It’s not up to these shit to decide. Although their stench has long been across my throat.
    Barsa 02.05.2013/23/21, XNUMX:XNUMX
    This your behavior indicates that Bandera henchmen did not understand anything. Sevastopol is a Russian city and no clap with a sedentary (or rather, a miserable parody of it and an unwashed head) will prove to Sevastopol that their sailors were “occupied” by Russian sailors. Sevastopol residents are proud that their city is the city of military glory of Russia! And no banderlogs will be able to convince them otherwise. Go back to the caches, back to the scarecrow and don’t translate it more imorske again with your own national style! In short - go home !!!
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  18. Egoza
    Egoza 3 May 2013 08: 22 New
    11
    I don’t even want to spoil the beautiful site with the faces of these geeks! just put here Kipling's poem. This is about them!
    Three things shiver us
    The fourth is not to demolish.
    In the great book, Agur himself
    Their list has placed.
    All four are a curse to us
    But still on the list
    Agur set before all
    Slave that became king.
    If the whore gets married then
    Will give birth, and sin is forgotten.
    get drunk and fall asleep
    While he sleeps, he is silent.
    The maid became mistress
    So don’t go to her house!
    But there is no escape from the slave
    Who became king!
    He is in the construction of idiots,
    And in the destruction of speed
    He is deaf to reason - he screams
    The argument is winning.
    He needs power for power,
    And the spirit corrected by force,
    He praises the sage
    Who lies to him: "You are right!"
    He was a slave and he used to
    That trouble has come
    Always the owner answered
    For all his affairs.
    When is he stupid now
    In the dust turned the country
    He's looking for someone again
    Blame it.
    He promises so easily
    But I’m ready to forget everything.
    He is afraid of everyone - and friends,
    Both loved ones and enemies.
    When it’s not necessary, it’s stubborn,
    When not necessary - weak
    O servant who became king
    All the slave, still the same slave.
    1. zennon
      zennon 3 May 2013 10: 32 New
      +3
      The greatness of Kipling is that in simple words he could explain very complex things. The poem is exactly about Khrushchev. I do not want to write this scum with a capital letter.
  19. Arthurian
    Arthurian 3 May 2013 08: 29 New
    +9
    Ugh .. Scum, in a word, these Svobodovites. Would destroy.
  20. avant-garde
    avant-garde 3 May 2013 08: 40 New
    13
    I would like to see how these masked young cattle would protect their homeland from a real enemy with weapons in their hands !!! But they would crap and run away to where, although it’s clear where they were captured and they would scream that Ukraine is not their homeland !!!! And the crowd to attack the old Veterans who already barely walk a lot of mind is not necessary !!! Once again I will add SCOTTES and so that you survive the same that our Veterans survived, and then such creatures would still beat you.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 3 May 2013 08: 56 New
      +3
      Look!
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    2. T-73
      T-73 3 May 2013 09: 58 New
      +3
      one plus is not enough, +100 (add zeros as desired)
  21. shurup
    shurup 3 May 2013 08: 45 New
    -5
    Again there will be a fight between veterans of the SA and local gopniks.
    In Lviv, it’s just right to open the Coliseum and sell tickets to European tourists.
    Municipal economy will benefit instead.
    Can such an experience be adopted in Moscow?
  22. treskoed
    treskoed 3 May 2013 08: 54 New
    +9
    Perhaps this is an attempt to distract the people from today's pressing problems of Ukraine! Pitting, searching for the enemy - this is far from a new technique. But in any case, mocking the memory of generations is disgusting!
  23. Rustiger
    Rustiger 3 May 2013 09: 03 New
    +8
    Who doubts that this is all coming from outside?
    The territory is being cleared under New-Hazaria by the hands of the residents themselves. . .

    "Our Gd bequeathed to us to own the world - we own it. Our task is to keep the world in our hands. Hold in your hands the means of propaganda and information: print, radio, television, cinema. We must continue to penetrate the apparatus of party and state administration Around any issue, shape public opinion taking into account our national interests.

    Do not openly destroy monuments of Russian antiquity, but do not restore them. Years will pass and they themselves will collapse. But the hooligans and "lovers of antiquity" they will be dragged away in bricks. Pretend that you do not notice this, being busy solving big national economic problems. A people without history, like a child without parents and from it, you can fashion everything you need, put your worldview, your way of thinking into it.

    In this way whole nations can be depersonalized; first they’re deprived of history and traditions, and then we shape them in our image and likeness. "

    / Jewish Catechism /
  24. Nikaviz
    Nikaviz 3 May 2013 09: 03 New
    33
    Because of such QMS !!! My kin, divided in half .. for over 20 years. Since 1993 we have not met, for them we have become "YAM - OCCUPIERS" -MARASM of modern society .. dozens of idiots of politicians, drag all the "herd" to LAW .. am
  25. individual
    individual 3 May 2013 09: 04 New
    +6
    Why be surprised? Who won the Great Patriotic War - we write with capital letters "HONOR and RESPECT", - who lost in mourning and negligence.
  26. Egoza
    Egoza 3 May 2013 09: 08 New
    +8
    Screw!
    There will be no doubt that there will be a fight again on May 9. And no courts and cancellations can stop. Unless the local police have more hands to be untied, they will try to stop the "hefty mourners" in time.
    Cracked!
    Unfortunately, this is not an attempt to distract the people from the urgent problems of Ukraine. This is the unresolved problem of Ukraine. It’s just that under the USSR, these deficiencies were still afraid to openly bring God into the world, and when they were “independent” they were given free rein, and they began to teach everyone how to live and by what standards. After all, they always fought for the "independence"! So they are the owners! They are pans! And everyone else should serve them. Ugh, an abomination!
    1. treskoed
      treskoed 3 May 2013 10: 32 New
      +1
      If they have such beliefs - doubly vile!
  27. Algor73
    Algor73 3 May 2013 09: 08 New
    +6
    I just want to say: People, think over where you slipped ...
    1. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 3 May 2013 10: 57 New
      +5
      So far, at the state level, we will be screaming "independent and independent." While on the banners and fences we will write "self-sufficient and independent," this is nonsense. It means that they didn’t build the state (where you heard or saw the independent and independent Romania, Finland, Turkey, Greece, Canada, China - these are the established states without anecdotal clarifications that they are “independent and independent”.) We were not ripe to be just a state, while everyone runs his own way and screams at the garden that he is “independent and independent” and will live by his own rules .... Then read the last interview of Slobodan Milosevic above and prepare your neck for yoke, ass for whip, freedom and will to slave.
  28. avant-garde
    avant-garde 3 May 2013 09: 10 New
    +3
    Quote: Algor73
    I just want to say: People, think over where you slipped ...

    in my opinion have already arrived (((
  29. avant-garde
    avant-garde 3 May 2013 09: 16 New
    20
    it's to those masked ramps!
    1. ole
      ole 3 May 2013 10: 52 New
      +1
      Awesome photo and commentary And in Ukraine, I think let themselves understand Rossi's problems LESS.
  30. T-73
    T-73 3 May 2013 09: 19 New
    +6
    Quote: vladsolo56
    separation will finally happen

    And along with this there will be a loss of self-identification of the people. Tear the country apart, separatism will crush the whole of western Ukraine. The East can take pitchforks, although it is easier to press economically. Really the Slavs do not understand that a war is already going on? Against them. However, I think they played with their maidan
  31. Nikaviz
    Nikaviz 3 May 2013 09: 25 New
    +6
    Because of such QMS !!! My kin, divided in half .. for over 20 years. Since 1993 we have not met, for them we have become "YAM - OCCUPIERS" -MARASM of modern society .. dozens of idiots of politicians, drag all the "herd" to LAW .. am
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 3 May 2013 13: 45 New
      0
      Why quote Milosevic's interiorview? Yugoslavia was not a member of the Warsaw Treaty, Serbia is not a member of the CSTO and the Customs Union. Words diverge from deeds.
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 3 May 2013 13: 50 New
        +3
        Quote: Setrac
        Why quote Milosevic's interiorview? Yugoslavia was not a member of the Warsaw Treaty, Serbia is not a member of the CSTO and the Customs Union. Words diverge from deeds.


        Last news:

        Serbia may join the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO)in which she currently has observer status. Afghanistan has the same status in the CSTO. According to the REX news agency, this was announced on April 11, 2013, commenting on the results of the meeting of the Council of the Parliamentary Assembly of this structure in St. Petersburg, said the chairman of the National Assembly of Serbia Nebojsa Stefanovich.

        «Serbia is interested in the most serious and active cooperation with this organization, since we realized that one state is not able to cope with challenges in the modern world, such as terrorism, ”he said, noting that Serbia plans to expand cooperation with the countries of the Union of Independent of states (CIS).

        http://ruserbia.com/drugie-pishut/1146-serbiya-stala-nablyudatelem-pr-iparlament


        skoj-assamblee-odkb
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 3 May 2013 13: 59 New
          +2
          Observer status does not oblige Russia to anything. They want serious protection if they join the Customs Union or the Russian Federation.
          1. GreatRussia
            GreatRussia 3 May 2013 14: 20 New
            +2
            Quote: Setrac
            Observer status does not oblige Russia to anything. They want serious protection if they join the Customs Union or the Russian Federation.


            About 50 thousand Kosovo Serbs applied for Russian citizenship.
            http://topwar.ru/8840-rossiyskoe-grazhdanstvo-zaprosili-okolo-50-tys-kosovskih-s
            erbov.html
  32. T-73
    T-73 3 May 2013 09: 31 New
    +2
    Quote: djon3volta
    there will be two Ukraine or what?

    There will be no 2 or 3 Ukraine. Everything will return in the ass and the maximum of the principality will be. And the script is with the director of this production
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  34. Garrin
    Garrin 3 May 2013 09: 41 New
    +5
    What I don’t see here today is our Ukrainian "Friends", who literally the day before yesterday with foam at the mouth proved that the zapadents are white and fluffy and that there are no Russophobic moods, while mercilessly minus the opponents.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 3 May 2013 09: 48 New
      11
      Quote: Garrin
      What I don’t see here today is our Ukrainian "Friends", who literally the day before yesterday with foam at the mouth proved that the zapadents are white and fluffy and that there are no Russophobic moods, while mercilessly minus the opponents.



      Dear Garrin, these “friends” are fascist trolls from the All-Ukrainian association “Freedom” (popularly called “SvolOlota”, where the Fuhrer is Izya Tyagnybok. These are children of a dog’s wedding.
      1. tradizia
        tradizia 3 May 2013 13: 53 New
        +6
        Often with this bastard butted on Gazeta.ua.
        There is only one conclusion: THIS IS ALIENS! THIS IS BAD ALIENS!
        PRESS! PRESS! PRESS! PRESS!
  35. Phoenix-D
    Phoenix-D 3 May 2013 09: 43 New
    +4
    For winners, Victory Day is a holiday; for losers, Victory Day is a day of mourning. It's simple, Galicia is a country with fascist authorities.
    1. Delink
      Delink 3 May 2013 09: 54 New
      +5
      They always looked towards the west. Only now it is actively lobbying.
      1. tradizia
        tradizia 3 May 2013 13: 46 New
        +2
        They always looked towards the west.

        And in the west, Poland, which remembers everything. Hungary will not forgive much for them.
        The Russians will strangle them.
        They only Kiev, magic wand.
  36. FREGATENKAPITAN
    FREGATENKAPITAN 3 May 2013 09: 45 New
    0
    .......... Where is Geyropa looking? Why the ECHR has not yet judged neo-Nazis-Western? .......... History already in the 45th placed almost over i, do not like it? We will correct their worldview by other methods ...............
    1. igor67
      igor67 3 May 2013 10: 05 New
      +2
      [quote = FRIGATENKAPITAN] .......... Where does Geyropa look? Why the ECHR has not yet judged neo-Nazis-Western? .......... History already in the 45th placed almost over i, do not like it? We will correct their worldview by other methods ............... [
      I have a counter question: what to do with the Russian Natsiks who walk around Moscow and Leningrad, disgracing the ashes of their grandfathers? Let's be honest, these Mr. IDs are everywhere and they are beneficial to politicians for their election goals. It is necessary to get rid of the screaming politicians from both sides and then the people will have nothing to divide, it is time to take up the economy, and the Ukrainian authorities to decide who they are, not sitting on two chairs, you can fall between and hurt, it’s very painful, well, Tymoshenko knows
      1. tradizia
        tradizia 3 May 2013 13: 38 New
        0
        and the Ukrainian authorities to decide who they are

        First you need Svidomo in the "affectionate", the Polish hands to return.
        And then they will be determined.
      2. olegyurjewitch
        olegyurjewitch 3 May 2013 15: 52 New
        0
        Quote: igor67
        What to do with the Russian Natsiks who walk around Moscow and Leningrad, disgracing the dust of their grandfathers?

        If they are in St. Petersburg, they are neither visible nor heard, in any case, this handful does not affect the country's policy. So they are a fact, but where are they not? The authorities consider it to be tolerant while they are few and they won’t be able to lead even a small part of the population, again they won’t be promoted, the media are silent about them, so it’s not entirely correct to compare them with the same Ukrainian nationalists or Latvian.
    2. RU_PATRIOT
      RU_PATRIOT 3 May 2013 15: 26 New
      -8
      Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
      We will correct their worldview by other methods ...............

      There are enough trees for all such corrections in Ukraine ... WELCOME!
  37. T-73
    T-73 3 May 2013 09: 52 New
    +3
    But there is a way out (albeit not perfect). All veterans of Ukraine should pay a fare even before the same Belgorod - and let them dress all orders and medals and wear them proudly, let them know that they are remembered and not abandoned, like their own authorities. I pay taxes and let this money go to a good cause, otherwise our deputies will feel sick, because I know that I feed them
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      1. Phoenix-D
        Phoenix-D 3 May 2013 09: 57 New
        +1
        Do you troll? There are more than three veterans of Ukraine.
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            1. Captain Vrungel
              Captain Vrungel 3 May 2013 11: 13 New
              +6
              He is the same humorist as Volochkova the Bolshoi opera diva, and Krylov is a prima ballerun. Zadolbal he with his theater all the ethers, channels, frequencies. If only they took a vacation, unlimited.
  38. Opera
    Opera 3 May 2013 09: 54 New
    +3
    Quote: treskoed
    Perhaps this is an attempt to distract the people from today's pressing problems of Ukraine

    This is not an attempt - they are completely different people, with completely different attitudes, ideals and guidelines! The fact that "Freedom" in the Rada only accelerated the process ... You can rush angrily at any rate against fascist shortcomings. The position of the people of the east and south of Ukraine is and it is known. Concrete actions on the part of Russia are needed!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 3 May 2013 12: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: Oper
      Concrete actions on the part of Russia are needed!

      So then it is so, and we would be with a dear soul, but ... "interference in internal affairs ..., imperial evil, la-la-la" such a howl will rise - hold on! Well, only the United States can climb everywhere, and Russia - no, no! am
  39. shinobi
    shinobi 3 May 2013 10: 07 New
    +4
    Neofascists. The diagnosis however. The medicine and treatment is also known for a long time. P.I.Z.D.YU.L. And it is called.
  40. T-73
    T-73 3 May 2013 10: 12 New
    0
    Quote: Whitley
    All three?

    At least one, such as YOU can not wait? Of course the troll, but what remains
  41. T-73
    T-73 3 May 2013 10: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: Whitley
    Four?

    Unfinished youngster, or thinks that he left a mark in history? Phoenix forget, there’s no reason to talk there due to the lack of a brain
  42. T-73
    T-73 3 May 2013 10: 24 New
    0
    Quote: Geisenberg
    the sooner Ukraine gets rid of the Bendery regions, the faster it starts to live.

    It remains a little - to hang these Benderaites on the neck of the gentry, from it will be great - spiders in one bank
  43. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 3 May 2013 10: 26 New
    +3
    Among Svobodovites, their faces are not even remotely like Slavic Tatars and Jews.
    1. Whitley
      Whitley 3 May 2013 10: 27 New
      -2
      Specialist in erysipelas in comments, everything in the bunker.
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 3 May 2013 11: 26 New
        -9
        YOBA, NE PALI KONTORY
        1. Whitley
          Whitley 3 May 2013 11: 31 New
          -3
          HOROSHO NE BUDU
  44. ed1968
    ed1968 3 May 2013 10: 28 New
    +1
    well, let our Slavic Western Ukrainian "brothers" deprive eggs of psham, they will get a lot from them
    1. tradizia
      tradizia 3 May 2013 13: 11 New
      +2
      ed1968! Are these "little brothers"?
      Even quoting is not good!
      We have full-fledged Ukrainian brothers there,
      Russians.
      A Svidomo forget a couple of years.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 3 May 2013 14: 01 New
        +1
        Bandera - the descendants of the Poles - they are not brothers to us, so, distant relatives.
        1. Captain Vrungel
          Captain Vrungel 3 May 2013 15: 02 New
          +1
          You tell the Poles that Bandera is their relatives and you will find out what the Poles think about Bandera, personally about you and how long and in detail they will send you to known and unknown addresses. But the fact that you will be made children of Bandera and sent to Bander’s mother is for sure.
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 3 May 2013 15: 13 New
            +1
            Quote: Captain Vrungel
            Tell the Poles that Bandera is their relatives and you will find out what the Poles think about Bandera, personally about you and how long and in detail they will send you to known and unknown addresses. But the fact that you will be made children of Bandera and sent to Bander’s mother is for sure.

            I totally agree with you! Poles have bad relatives, but I’m not to blame for this, they are to blame.
  45. knn54
    knn54 3 May 2013 10: 32 New
    +7
    The OUN and the UPA have always been SEPARATISTS. Their goal is "GALICHINA IS NON-GALLERY", and not "Free Ukraine". At least one UPA warrior fought for Odessa, Sevastopol, Lugansk Kharkov? They and their accomplices are separatists.
    As for mourning, their masters are the loser. Therefore, lackeys cannot be with the winners. PS If it is impossible to restore the health of the body, it is necessary to cut / amputate the diseased organ. If measures are not taken in time, then surgical intervention cannot be dispensed with ...
    1. zennon
      zennon 3 May 2013 10: 54 New
      +6
      You’re wrong. I’m not Ukrainian, but even I understand that the economic locomotive of this country is the industrial east. The remnants without them are Holodians. Therefore, they imagine themselves to be ideological guides, a messiah, without which bright ideas Ukraine will die. They are by no means they want a split! That is why they are trying to manage in the Crimea, in the east. In vain attempts. Russia will regain Crimea and Donbas. Not tomorrow, but it will definitely return.
      As for surgery, you are right. It will only happen without external intervention. Ukraine within the current borders is nonsense.
  46. Evgeniy46
    Evgeniy46 3 May 2013 10: 38 New
    +5
    Comrades, there is a thought. Maybe we’ll take off and send them a wreath with a ribbon to “Fascists of Ukraine from Topwar.ru”?
  47. uizik
    uizik 3 May 2013 10: 59 New
    +2
    Galitchina should be torn away from Ukraine and as soon as possible. Otherwise, this infection will destroy the country. It is not clear why there is no reaction of the authorities to their decisions. If the East of Ukraine gives a hint about the federation, they immediately accuse it of separatism. Let these Nazis live in their own fascist ways.
    1. RU_PATRIOT
      RU_PATRIOT 3 May 2013 15: 32 New
      -3
      Because the east will have to disconnect itself, which is why many people don’t want to, because together with the west of Ukraine the center and the capital and the north of Ukraine will all be pro-Ukrainian regions.
    2. ZuluS
      ZuluS 6 May 2013 04: 54 New
      +1
      And no one had the thought of reconciliation. How it happened throughout Europe. Only one thing on mind, separation, rejection, split ... Ukraine is a sovereign and united state, for 21 years it is time to come to terms with this idea, and not to spit saliva from impotent malice. You have to be kinder, you look and people will reach for you ...
  48. Arrogant
    Arrogant 3 May 2013 11: 07 New
    0
    Khmelnitsky region is also Galicia? who will tell?
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 3 May 2013 14: 33 New
      0
      Quote: Rogue
      Khmelnitsky region is also Galicia? who will tell?


      Geographically - no, but for SMERSH a lot of work on svidomitotsidom.
  49. T-73
    T-73 3 May 2013 11: 11 New
    0
    Quote: Kohl
    in the second decade of the last century

    There was nothing great, neither in 2 nor in 3-4 decades. The decree issued from the entry and all. What happened? The people and so was one: Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians - and this is only a small fraction of us all.
    1. Whitley
      Whitley 3 May 2013 11: 16 New
      -3
      Quote: T-73
      kind and so was one: Russian, Belarusians

      This is yes.
      Quote: T-73
      Ukrainians

      But this is not.
  50. Opera
    Opera 3 May 2013 11: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: Eugene46
    Comrades, there is a thought. Maybe we’ll take off and send them a wreath with a ribbon to “Fascists of Ukraine from Topwar.ru”?

    But this is not a bad idea, only the addressee should be more accurate! And here is the sender - Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians! Maybe someone else will join.
    1. Evgeniy46
      Evgeniy46 3 May 2013 11: 28 New
      +1
      central office of the Freedom party
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