Residents of Okinawa await the arrival of American convertiplanes with horror

The US authorities will send more 12 advanced Osprey aircraft to Japan. The head of the Pentagon, Chuck Heigl, agreed on this at a meeting with the Minister of Defense of Japan, Itsunori Onodera.

America is increasing its military presence in Japan, and this is causing more and more discontent among the population of Okinawa Prefecture. It is on this island that the main part of US military facilities is located. On Monday, it was decided to transfer to Okinawa another squadron of Osprey convertoplanes, which Japanese residents consider to be unsafe.

"We confirm the deployment of the second squadron of MV-22 in Japan, which will take place this summer and which will increase our military capabilities in the region," ITAR-TASS quoted the head of the American military department.

At the same time, residents of the Japanese island believe that convertible planes are dangerous for the population, because this type of weapon has not yet proved its reliability. The Japanese fear that a new type of American transport workers may fall on residential areas.

Convertible Osprey is an aircraft with turning screws that work as lifting (during takeoff and landing) and pulling (during horizontal flight). Thus, the V-22 Osprey can move in aircraft and helicopter modes. In the first case, it can reach speeds of up to 463 km / h, and in the second, up to 185 km / h. Osprey is equipped with two Rolls-Royce T406 engines. This is the only convertiplane used for military purposes.

Comments

[vjatsergey]

America is rearming its unsinkable aircraft carrier, and the aircraft carrier is trying to resent.

[Nicholas C.]

For renting a base in Okinawa, I hope I haven't forgotten, the Americans pay 180 million a year and no additional "taxes". And they hold whatever weapons they want, nuclear at least.

On the requirements to withdraw the base, the Americans rolled out Japan bill for this - 3 billion. $

You cannot compare with the "conditions" that our brothers have created for the Black Sea Fleet.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Nikolai S.

On the requirements to withdraw the base, the Americans rolled out Japan bill for this - 3 billion. $

For the free supply of radioactive elements in 1945?

[Army1]

So they are afraid that the convertiplanes will fall, but I thought

[svp67]

Quote: vjatsergey

America is rearming its unsinkable aircraft carrier, and the aircraft carrier is trying to resent.

Rather, the service staff is outraged ... asks for more money

[gladysheff2010]

Money is money, but against the backdrop of the friendly visit of the Japanese prime minister to Russia, I, as a citizen of that country, would also doubt the need to strengthen American ubiquity — Russia today is not the same as in the 90s!

[cdrt]

For Japan, the Russian Federation is an object of politics, not a subject

[Lopatov]

So the Japanese are filthy politicians. If until now they could not solve the territorial problem with the "object".

[Bykov.]

Quote: vjatsergey

America is rearming its unsinkable aircraft carrier, and the aircraft carrier is trying to resent.

Probably, their doubts are gnawing about unsinkability, they are afraid that someone will succeed in this and drown them all the same ...

[patline]

Americans pay 180 million a year and no additional "taxes". And they hold whatever weapons they want, nuclear at least.

On the requirements to withdraw the base, the Americans rolled out Japan bill for this - 3 billion. $

That's it, that everything is in dollars. Amer printed (well, or pushed zeros after a unit in the computer ..) dough and paid, but Yapi has no printing press. They would pay in Yen, then the conversation would be different.

[Civil]

on the Japs, the Americans do not care)

[Aryan]

Residents of Okinawa await the arrival of American convertiplanes with horror
because the Americans taught their convertiplanes to spoil like birds ...

[Thunderbolt]

Japan is full of radical nationalists. They are just dreaming of the revival of the Empire and the former samurai spirit. Don’t feed the rice --- let the yell at the base’s gate! So irreconcilable that 3 billion. that the whole Fed will move to them --- do not give up Banzai, you know ..

[Sirocco]

Quote: Aryan

because the Americans taught their convertiplanes to spoil like birds ...

Only birds like these, August 6 and 9, 45, were bad shits in Hiroshima and Nagosaki. Yes, so that to this day they remember them with a kind word.

[Thunderbolt]

Enola Gay (B-29-45-MO, serial number 44-86292) was part of the 509 special air group, consisting of 15 B-29 bombers modified for the delivery of nuclear weapons, based on Tinian, an island in the Mariana Islands chain. Enola Gay was personally selected by Paul Tibbets, commander of the 509th Special Air Group, on May 9, 1945, at the assembly line of the Glenn L. Martin Company factory in Omaha, Nebraska. Before the bombing of Hiroshima, Enola Gay completed 8 training and 2 combat missions, and 31 July 1945 rehearsed the atomic bomb drop using the model of the bomb "Kid". On August 5, the plane was named Tibbets in honor of his mother, Enola Gay Tibbets. On August 6, the world's first atomic bombing was carried out from an airplane. Subsequently, having changed several locations, the aircraft was transferred to the National Museum of Aviation and Cosmonautics of the United States.

[GHG]

Once in a museum it means they are proud. If we had such a fact (in history) I would be ashamed of our country. Something would have drawn me to it.

[Thunderbolt]

In honor of my mother named .....

[ochakow703]

And the whole world would poke a finger, and except as monsters and murderers he didn’t call, but here, everyone is silent. As if nothing had happened.

[dmitreach]

so the whole civilized world is sure that the Japs themselves are to blame ... they forced the poor amers, they did not want to ... like: I am not guilty, he himself came ... here amers know how to convince them that they are right. if not "by the power of the word," so "colt."

[GHG]

Minus of your conscience Dear thunderbolt ... tell me and TU-4 is similar, I think you will understand everything

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: GES

Minus your conscience

Yuri, I didn’t set you. If you want to know my opinion about the bombing: you yourself know what the enemy did during the Second World War. They won. And not a single high-explosive bomb fell on the United States. Not one. Not a single civilian was hijacked in slavery, starved to death or brutally tortured. Not one. The extermination of 2 Japanese cities --- what is there to be proud of? Therefore, our noble rage boiled, and the Yankees showed their predatory beast to the whole world. Here.

[Romn]

Let them get what they wanted, the amers take care of the current about themselves, no one asks people for their opinions.

[Joker]

Sorry, but the article is complete nonsense. The Japanese are only glad that the Americans are sitting with them, they can’t swear with them, because if they leave, the Japanese will begin to butt alone with China, who have long had a tooth on them.

[Lopatov]

Do not confuse the whole with the private. The Japanese may be happy, but the residents of Okinawa have their base in the liver. First of all, because of the behavior of the US military.
They have about the same image there as the natives of the Caucasus in Moscow.

[Canep]

It seems he is not very safe. In fact, the failure of one engine will make vertical landing impossible, and horizontal (by plane) is not possible in principle, due to the huge diameter of the screw.

[Atlon]

Quote: Canep

not possible in principle, due to the huge diameter of the screw.

Rather, due to a catastrophically inadequate bearing plane of the wing and insufficient ability to compensate for the turning moment.

[Canep]

If one engine fails, the other must be turned off, then the pilot has a chance to take autorotations, but I don’t know if this machine has such an opportunity, the diameter of the screws will allow it.

[bulgurkhan]

The screws with three trapezoidal blades are interconnected by a synchronizing shaft, which passes inside the wing. This shaft also provides the ability to land the aircraft on a single engine.

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

His screws are connected by a transverse shaft through the wing, so that the output of one engine is not fatal for him.

[Canep]

The power of one engine is most likely not enough for a vertical landing.

[bulgurkhan]

For horizontal flight, the power of one engine is sufficient, and when landing, this engine is put into forced mode, which can operate for a short time.

[svp67]

At the same time, residents of the Japanese island believe that convertible planes are dangerous for the population, because this type of weapon has not yet proved its reliability. The Japanese fear that a new type of American transport workers may fall on residential areas.

Strange, this machine has long been in service with the Marine Corps, and statistics could have been worked out ...

[Wedmak]

The Japanese are actually under the United States after the 2-th World. And they have only one opportunity - to be indignant.

[taseka]

Paradox! We actually "made them" at 45, for amers, and they only resent them, but with us they are at war !!!

[svp67]

Quote: taseka

Paradox! We actually "made them" at 45, for amers, and they only resent them, but with us they are at war !!!

Not any "paradoxes", just every case must be brought to its logical conclusion, which we did not do. To defeat Japan, we won, but diplomatically this victory was not consolidated ...

[avant-garde]

well enough to worry they will democratically fall!

[valokordin]

Probably in case of engine failure, due to the synchronized shaft, the Osprey will not fall. The United States has a Chinook and we had a B-12. And the car is interesting.

[svp67]

Quote: valokordin

Probably in case of engine failure, due to the synchronized shaft, the Osprey will not fall. The United States has a Chinook and we had a B-12. And the car is interesting.

The helicopters have a "autorotation" mode, I think that this machine is capable of this in the "helicopter" mode or will land on the "airplane"

[Vasily-71]

Not. There is no autorotation at Osprey. Link: http://www.boeing.com/ospreynews/2011/issue_01/final_8jun2010_179638.pdf

Rather, there is something like this, but no guarantees for stability and security.

[Renat]

But after Pearl Harbor in the states of all the Japanese gathered in concentration camps. I wonder if modern residents of Japan know about this? Including about vigorous bombs. Is all this delicately silent? The Yankees have not forgotten Pearl Harbor.

[treskoed]

They probably know. And farsightedly believe: Okinawa is better than Hiroshima ... There is no alternative!

[Egoza]

Quote: treskoed

There is no alternative!

They see an alternative in chopping the Kuril Islands for themselves. And amers actively push them in this direction.

[Renat]

Although the amers do not like samurai, they would be friends with anyone just against Russia.

[Vasily-71]

in the states of all Japanese gathered in concentration camps

This is not true. This only applied to individuals. There was no total purge. There are many photos with different captions, like "American Japanese are listening to news from the front" and so on.

[mogus]

interesting ... The Japanese want to sign a peace treaty with us on the Kuril Islands (in the future they will not be able to "bite" us). They announced the celebration of independence. The United States decided to send tiltrotors to Japan with an incomprehensible purpose. Riot on the "ship"?
And if you look at what the states lack:
Japan - 1. Opportunities to invent
breakthrough technology
as much as you like.
2. The national idea of
that the Japanese ... etc. etc.,
powerful and self-sufficient. 3. They do not have enough population
(to create an independent
technological zone)
gold, raw materials, territories and
sales markets.
Solving these problems is EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. Expect Japan
bloody war for
resources and probable
fascization of social
device.

Russia - 1. Population to create
independent
technological zone, with
given the expansion
Eurasian Union, may
to be enough. 2. Money if stopped
liberal
activities of the Central Bank
enough.
3. Gold, at
an appropriate exploration approach is enough.
4. Opportunities to invent
breakthrough technologies, with
adequate
patent law
and VAT cancellations are available. 5. Sales markets, provided
policy introduction
import substitution,
enough. Not enough for Russia
NATIONAL IDEA and how
reasonable consequence
government structure.
Solve this problem
Russians .... ON THIS QUESTION LET
EVERYONE WILL RESPOND TO YOURSELF!

[gladysheff2010]

In principle, the national idea is what we have, what the Japanese have: independence and progress, but historically we think differently.

[Uzer 13.]

A tiltrotor is created, and this is an event in the history of aviation.

[djon3volta]

Quote: uzer 13

and this is an event in the history of aviation.

an event is when the whole world knows about it! For example, I learned about their convertiplanes from the TRANSFORMERS film, and I thought it was computer graphics, they say there are no such aircraft.
the event is when Yuri Gagarin flew into space and the BURAN automatically without pilots (there was nobody in the cockpit) flew into space and landed back.

[ded]

the event is when Yuri Gagarin flew into space

You will be surprised, but a good half (if not 90 percent) of Americans do not know who Yuri Gagarin is and believe that the United States was the first in space (about 5 years ago I found a video on the Internet where ordinary Americans were caught on the street and asked "who is Yu. Gagarin and what did he do? "). So Yuri Gagarin is a hero only for Us and for those who understand this topic, but for the rest of the Western "cattle" he is not known.

[Uzer 13.]

The United States is ahead of Russia in space and aviation technologies and scientific developments. You can not acknowledge this fact and express your displeasure for as long as you like, but things won’t do better than that.

[Vasily-71]

That's right, you're right. This is objective.

[patrianostra]

you are again beautiful

[Rebus]

Quote: uzer 13

The USA is ahead of Russia in space and aviation technologies and scientific developments.

About space, you blurted out without thinking. They fly to the ISS in our Soyuz, their launch vehicles fly on our engines ...

NASA signed an addition to the contract with Roscosmos in the amount of $ 424 million, which provides for the delivery and return of crews to the ISS, as well as emergency evacuation from orbit until June 2017.

“Now we are working on the issue of supplying the next 29 engines from 2014 to 2017, respectively, the load for the enterprise will be four to five engines per year,” Solntsev said, Interfax reports.
He recalled that an option had been previously signed for the supply of 101 RD-180 engines for American Atlas missiles until 2020.

“38 engines have successfully launched Atlas-5 out of 59 delivered. Now work is underway to sign contractual obligations for 2014-2017, ”said the executive director of the enterprise.

Where is their primacy in space technology?

[Uzer 13.]

Didn’t you hear anything about Voyager? And there’s nothing to write about bullshit about engines. Russia has only 2-3% of revenue from exploiting the entire outer space. That is, for transportation. The remaining money goes to the owners of telecommunication systems.

[Rebus]

Quote: uzer 13

Russia from the development of all outer space has only 2-3% of the income. That is, for the export.

Without a "carriage", there will be no telecommunication satellites.

Quote: uzer 13

Have you heard anything about Voyager?

Voyagers are bullshit compared to the Venera series.
On the surface of Venus, only our devices worked, and this pressure was 90 atmospheres and a temperature of 450 ° - 500 ° C, color panoramas of the landing site were obtained, and soil samples were taken inside the descent device using a soil sampling device and its chemical analysis was carried out, similar was not done not a single US device ...

[cdrt]

Well, then Mars rover walks on Mars, not ours. Yes, and they flew to the moon, and not we

[Lopatov]

Different priorities were set.
Our emphasized the benefit of the national economy, they are purely on prestige.

[Know-nothing]

Maybe the answer lies in http://ria.ru/economy/20110511/373020049.html?

NPO Energomash OJSC sold Russian RD-180 rocket engines for American Atlas-5 launch vehicles for half the cost of their production, according to the materials of the RF Audit Chamber.
"In this regard, only in 2008-2009, the loss from their sales amounted to about 880 million rubles, or almost 68% of all Energomash losses," the materials say.

By the way, the rights to it belong to the Americans, at one time they even wanted to start production at home.

And about Unions, Popovkin spoke as follows:

Frankly speaking, this is not a joy for Roscosmos, but a great responsibility. The production of serial "Soyuz" and their testing requires significant efforts and resources, including the design bureau of the "Energia" corporation. Instead of creating and developing new means of transport and technical support for crews within the framework of a promising manned system, our specialists are forced to accompany the production of serial vehicles.

http://www.federalspace.ru/main.php?id=2&nid=18915

Americans prefer rational decisions, and they fly on Russian technology not because they can’t do their own thing, but because while it’s more profitable for them. This is a fundamental difference from the Russian space industry, which is forced to buy Electronics Industry, because Space does not sell them the State Department, for example.

[Drednout]

Quote: uzer 13

The USA is ahead of Russia in space and aviation technologies and scientific developments

In technology, I can not judge, but here are the facts for 12 years - the number of commercial launches made by Russia - 15, China - 6, and the United States - 3. Amers know how to make equipment, this is a fact, but the "price - quality" ratio is not of the best.

ps To be honest, I still like their old cars. There is something in them.

[GreatRussia]

Quote: Wedmak

The Japanese are actually under the United States after the 2-th World. And they have only one opportunity - to be indignant.

Yes, there are actually no special disturbances.
Is psychology, mentality and national identity so degrading?

[Die-hard]

Quote: GreatRussia

how much can psychology, mentality and national identity degrade?

Well yes. We also have a lot of scoops. Individual individuals are no longer treatable.

[GreatRussia]

The Japanese fear that a new type of American transport may fall into residential neighborhoods.

[Papakiko]

mmm
Clear engine malfunction.
And here is the April "voyage".

[Papakiko]

This is the April "voyage", it was discussed:
http://topwar.ru/27432-na-voennoy-baze-bagram-v-afganistane-razbilsya-transportn
yy-samolet.html # comment-id-1116196

[avant-garde]

Dear Japanese, it’s worse than the fact that your US ally cannot be anything else !!!!!

[APASUS]

Now they will blow up a disco in Tokyo and the Japanese will ask the Americans to build a "fence" of these tiltrotors !!
Americans are masters of such setups!

[Restoration]

Whoever reckoned with japs ​​- they dropped two atomic bombs on them, occupied an entire island, and their government does not dare to blather.

[fedora]

... since 2007, the use of Osprey has demonstrated sufficient safety even in the most adverse flight conditions imaginable. Combat losses were noted only once: in 2010, in Afghanistan, the Air Force-owned CV-22 missed its landing zone, hit a ditch with a wheel and rolled over. As a result, four out of twenty people on board died. “For ten years, Osprey has proven itself to be the safest combat rotary aircraft of all that has been used in active forces,” confirms Richard Whittle, author of Dream Machine - An Unknown History of the Osprey’s infamous CV-22.

Osprey has already demonstrated its advantages during the fighting. Compared to the Sea Knight helicopter, Osprey not only lifts a much larger load, but is also able to carry it four times as much. In addition, both special forces and marines have already estimated the speed of the convertiplane, which is considered one of the most significant parameters.

In 2010, a helicopter crashed during a raid in Afghanistan, and dozens of special forces were under mortar and machine-gun fire. Helicopters sent for help were forced to return, stopped by dust storms and high peaks of the Hindu Kush, and only two CV-22s made a rescue mission with a shoulder of 1200 km. To fly over the ridge, they had to climb to a height of 4500 m. As a result, 32 American soldiers were rescued in less than four hours. A year later, the pilot of the F-15 crashed plane in Libya was picked up by the MV-22 tiltrotor plane, taking off from the deck of an amphibious assault ship. Pilots of naval aviation delivered a loser pilot to their base, located 240 km from the scene of the accident, and all this took only 30 minutes.

U.S. Air Force Major Brian Luce, a pilot from the 8th Special Forces Squadron, flipped in convertiplanes in Afghanistan and saw with his own eyes how, when they got acquainted with this technique, skeptics turned into enthusiasts. “Some people looked at our devices with doubt,” he says, “but then, flying with us, they saw that from point A to point B you can get to Osprey in record time.” According to Luce, the merits of convertiplanes quickly became convinced of the operational command, and among staff officers. “The speed of the CV-22 and its range never ceases to amaze,” he says. “The command understands this and plans its tactics and its operations, relying on our capabilities” ...
Source: http://www.popmech.ru/article/11227-konvertoplan-osprey-dorog-nenadezhen-vostreb
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[avant-garde]

Would go out with pickets on the street, the slogans would shout "we are Japan is a free country" and we do not need to send us your things, for the sake of democracy. And then even smells of occupation. the Americans at the end were obese.

[Vasily-71]

I do not agree with you. Japan is friendly and grateful for the protection of the United States. The US actively supports their defense industry and provides them with weapons.

[AleksUkr]

Japanese love Americans, but don't like Russians

A opinion poll showed that the Japanese have friendly feelings for America. 82% of Japanese people surveyed love America and only 16% are negative towards this country. The last time the Japanese had such an ardent love for the United States back in 1978.

This graph shows how the attitude of the Japanese towards the Russians, Chinese and Americans has changed from 2001 to 2011. The attitude towards the Chinese is so-so, and the Japanese do not like Russians, perhaps because of disputes about the Kuril Islands, and besides, Russia is an incomprehensible country for them.

It is a pity that the Japanese are unfair to Russia, because we are so good. And the Japanese should have forgotten about the Kuril Islands.

[djon3volta]

Quote: AleksUkr

Japanese love Americans

I wonder what? If you could listen to or read the answers - why do the Japanese love Americans. Namely, specifically what do the Japanese like Americans. Do they really love them for dropped atomic bombs?

[Vasily-71]

For the restoration of industry and protection from neighbors. Obviously the same.

[Lopatov]

That is yes. The Japanese realize that without the support of the Americans they are pure zilch. Both in defense and in the economy. The USA is the largest market for Japanese companies. They account for about 30% of exports.

[Vasily-71]

Well, actually, the Japanese fleet is quite combat-ready. MBT Type-10 is very good. Yes, and the Air Force level. The neighbors contribute to this.

[Lopatov]

Maybe combat-ready. But the Chinese will tear Japan’s self-defense forces with little effort.

[wk]

the Chinese have already tried in 1979 to break off little Vietnam .... got their teeth in the teeth .... not everything is decided by the size of the army.

[Lopatov]

Everything flows, everything changes. Ours, too, was seized in 1904-1905. But this did not stop the Japanese from getting tough both before the Great Patriotic War and at its end.

[Vasily-71]

Good morning everyone. Sometimes I look through the topwar. I was always interested - who writes articles here?

[Drednout]

If I understand the rules correctly, you can even write it yourself.

[AleksUkr]

Actually, the Japanese have nothing to resent. They were too atrocious during the war. Only they prefer not to recall this.

A LITTLE HISTORY:
- The conditions in German concentration camps were simply resort compared to the Japanese labor camps in Burma and Manjuria. There, the captured British and Chinese worked 24 hours a day until they died of exhaustion, hunger, thirst (usually a person was enough for 3-5 days). They simply were not fed (WHY?). In a tropical climate and unbearable sanitary conditions, people rotted alive. The huge casualties in Europe can be judged by the German archives (they didn’t have time to destroy them), the exact number of victims in Japanese camps is not clear, but given the number of Chinese and English prisoners of war (up to 300 British and several million Chinese) equal.
- “Detachment 731 ″ unit, which tested live Chinese and up to (10 people) bacteriological weapons (you should read what they did, experiments on women and children, etc.).
- Nankin slaughter is one of the worst crimes of the 2nd world. Up to 500 Chinese were killed and about 000 raped women and girls (most of whom were later either killed or committed suicide). Compared to the “humane” gas chambers, people were abused here until the last breath. Officers of the imperial army conducted "social competitions" in cutting down the heads of prisoners (everything was filmed by operators and printed in newspapers). Plus, more than 50 prisoners from occupied Singapore and Manila killed in a similar scenario.
-Even in the most difficult period of 1941, the USSR was forced to hold 2 armies in the Far East to repel possible aggression. This certainly affected the number of victims in our occupied territories.
-After all the battles in Europe, we had to kick the Japanese out of China in 1945. The Kwantung army was crushed in a month (like shit under a boot).
Their territorial claims, as the losing side, are simply unlawful (even immoral).
And they are happy with the Americans. They even like the bases on their territory. Although the Americans spat on their wishes. They do what they want.

And their current behavior towards Russia.
There have been many cases in history when, in order to strengthen friendship, Russia donated its lands to other states, as a result of receiving a gift these countries continued to hate Russia. If the question is either land or the love of the Japanese, then we do not need the love of the Japanese! The Japanese make themselves worse with their hatred, poisoning their health with this negative feeling.

[gladysheff2010]

That's right! The Samurai Code puts victory first and foremost, regardless of the methods of achieving it. Winning for the Japanese is getting new territories and resources. It's simple: whoever is stronger is right. That is why we must be strong, only then we will be respected .

[Restoration]

Khrushchev’s proposals, not relevant for a long time, and all sorts of hints from Yeltsin, continue to nourish the wild imagination of japas.
Once upon a time it was time to declare Japan clearly and clearly - the Kuril Islands are an integral part of the Russian Federation and will never be given to anyone and will not be transferred! Only after full realization of this fact, relations between the two countries will begin to improve.

[Ragnarek]

Who is interested in the opinion of the natives?

[Ruslan_F38]

Come on, the Japanese, the United States is your friends, they can still drop a couple of bombs if that)).

[ed1968]

somewhere I heard that a convertiplane was also created in the Union, and it’s not bad and long ago, but it wasn’t accepted into service

[Vtel]

the inhabitants of the Japanese island believe that convertiplanes are dangerous for the population, because this type of weapon has not yet proved its reliability. The Japanese fear that a new type of American transport may fall into residential neighborhoods.

Yes, though they will fall what. From their beloved Yankees, they all take atomic bombs and convertiplanes. It seems narrowly worried not that they will fall, but that they all reach North Korea or the Kuril Islands to quench their imperialist ambitions.
V-22 Osprey Range:
combat radius - 690 km;
the radius of action during the landing load is 722 km;
practical range - 1 km (without refueling);
The distance from Vladivostok to the Japanese naval bases on the islands of Honshu and Hokkaido is 800 - 900 km.

[MG42]

The will of the samurai is suppressed, it can be seen even after the atomic bombings in 1945, they still have to endure the bases of those who wiped their cities from the face of the earth, only to shout at the neighbors, uncle Sam if he closes by sending AUG.

[biglow]

Quote: MG42

The will of the samurai is suppressed, it can be seen even after the atomic bombings in 1945, they still have to endure the bases of those who wiped their cities from the face of the earth, only to shout at the neighbors, uncle Sam if he closes by sending AUG.

not the will of the samurai, but the samurai themselves destroyed as a class, therefore the Japanese are silent, because only the descendants of the peasants who are accustomed only to obey and no more

[MG42]

Quote: biglow

not the will of the samurai, but the samurai themselves destroyed as a class,

THX. for the amendment +, in my head just << And the samurai flew to the ground - under the pressure of steel and fire >> Samurai in quotes.

[studentmati]

In terms of technical solutions, a very beautiful car! In economic terms, a loss-making product that requires large modifications, respectively investments. Amer imposed on the Japanese Osprey, so as not to ruin their production. So to speak, a gentleman's agreement - some support the dollar bubble, others support the yen. Like that...

[shpuntik]

These Japanese are strange ... The Americans have tested nuclear bombs on them, and they love them. And we are four islands, in part of the compensation they took, they hate us. Who brought them more harm, we or the Yankees?

[studentmati]

The dependence is simple: dollar-yen.

[gregor6549]

"Okinawans await the arrival of American convertiplanes with horror." Typical agitation from the heyday of stagnation. Residents of Okinawa can wait with horror only that America decides to withdraw its bases from Okinawa and they. Okinawans are largely unemployed. And to fall on their head, in which case, enough gifts and without convertoplanes. But people live for today and today's penny in their pockets and a liter of milk for a child is now much closer and more important to them than hypothetical gifts in the future. And all the protests shown from time to time on TV are nothing more than an attempt by all kinds of "peace fighters" to knock out of the "American occupiers" a superfluous extra penny for their loved ones. They, the "fighters", just have to work. It’s much easier to knock people into protesting crowds and earn your grain of bread and butter. And there is no difference between the "fighters" of Okinawa and the "fighters" of Bolotnaya. It is already a profession to fight. It doesn't matter for what, as long as they pay. Otherwise, you will have to go to the plant or in the field and work hard. Terror is cleaner than tiltrotors

[Stalinets]

Nobody loves the Japanese in that corner of the planet .. Detachment 731, this is the Japanese. You shouldn’t really regret them. They don’t need this. And the convertiplane, a pretty fly, it’s not clear whether it’s reliable ...

[gregor6549]

100% reliability does not exist. Including aircraft. And the tiltrotor is also a difficult machine to operate, and here a lot depends on the pilot's skill. But judging by the fact that not only the US but also other countries began to order a tiltrotor, it is more likely with technical reliability there to be more or less at an acceptable level. Yes, and these vehicles were run-in in the difficult climatic and combat conditions of Afghanistan. This is not flying landfills

[Stalinets]

In Afghanistan, they prefer the Chinook (Sikorsky) and our Mi. Give a link to the video envelope in Afghanistan. Plz.

[gregor6549]

No problemo, Sir!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnNmY04Omf8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7xvgimqzt0

Still, or enough?

[Stalinets]

Looked, thanks. To be honest, to apply them, you need a lot of conditions, many of which, in war, are not permissible luxury. Sikorsky and mi fit better. Somehow, to go as low as possible between the mountains, hover, quickly land people and leave. I saw their flights, and frankly, there is a lot of noise and it takes a lot of time to complete some details. By the way, we are purchasing Mi for use in Afghanistan from Russia.

[gregor6549]

Well, we are not discussing this, but the "horror" of the inhabitants of Okinawa in front of these tiltrotors on the occasion of the "unreliability" of the latter. Well this is necessary, as these residents are savvy in terms of the reliability of the Ospreyev

[Stalinets]

I repent! Yes! The Japanese are very advanced ... I'm in the heat of battle, I missed this aspect! To blame!