Where are the new Russian aircraft for the military transport aviation?

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Where are the new Russian aircraft for the military transport aviation?

To the great regret of all fans of our aviation, and even those who often look up to the sky, were saddened by yet another tragedy. An An-22, a heavy transport aircraft, crashed in the Ivanovo region, killing the entire crew.

This incident is notable because in June 2024, Lieutenant General Vladimir Benediktov, commander of the Aerospace Forces' Military Transport Aviation, announced that the MTA would retire the An-22 by the end of the year. Now, 18 months after this announcement and a year after the An-22 was supposed to be retired, the aircraft is not only flying, but "conducting a scheduled test flight after repairs," as several Russian media outlets reported.




This makes us think about the overall state of the transport component of the Russian Aerospace Forces, and they are doing this abroad with all their might and analyzing what is happening.

Eyewitnesses reported seeing the An-22 disintegrate in mid-air, with parts of the fuselage falling into a reservoir near the village.

The vessel's commander was 52-year-old Major Sergei Shmakov. Also on board were:
- assistant to the crew commander - 35-year-old captain Dmitry Yatsenko,
- navigator - 36-year-old captain Kirill Vakulenko
- radio operator - 58-year-old senior warrant officer Igor Ishkhanov,
- the ship's engineer is 40-year-old Senior Lieutenant Alexey Dorofeev,
- aviation equipment engineer - 49-year-old captain Igor Belikov,
- landing equipment engineers - 43-year-old Alexey Tyksheev and 38-year-old captain Roman Korotkov.

Russian state media cited a statement from the Russian Ministry of Defense that the An-22 was on a test flight "post-repair" when the crash occurred. This suggests the aircraft was in the process of being returned to service. After repairs…


However, last August, reports emerged that Russia had finally phased out its An-22 fleet. At the time, it was believed that the last example, registration number RF-09309, built in 1974, had departed its base in Migalovo, Tver Oblast, for Yekaterinburg on August 16, 2024. It was expected to be on permanent display at the militaryhistorical Museum in Verkhnyaya Pyshma. However, the latest satellite images do not show the An-22 collection, suggesting that plans may have changed.

The crashed aircraft is said to be one of four An-22s that were reportedly still in service with the 196th Military Transport Aviation Regiment of the Russian Aerospace Forces as of June 2024.


The fact that the An-22 has served for so long, not to mention that one of its examples is still in service, is remarkable in itself. After all, it all started quite a long time ago.

The prototype took to the air on February 27, 1965, and at the time, it was the heaviest aircraft in the world. Like the Tu-95 "Bear," the An-22 was powered by four Kuznetsov NK-12MA turboprop engines, each producing over 14,805 horsepower, which drove eight-bladed contra-rotating propellers.

A total of 68 An-22s were built between 1966 and 1976, including two prototypes.

It entered service with the Soviet military in January 1969, and the aircraft was particularly prized for its ability to carry large cargo, with a capacity of up to 60 tons. Furthermore, the An-22's cargo hold could accommodate 151 paratroopers or 292 standard-issue troops across two decks. However, the main cargo hold was not pressurized, with the exception of the forward cabin, which could accommodate 29 people.


Among the cargoes transported were complete sets missile systems, as well as large and heavy military equipment, which was loaded through a large loading ramp at the rear. If necessary, the aircraft could take off from and land on unprepared airfields, which was very useful during supply operations in Africa.


Landing in Mali

By the early 2000s, it seemed the An-22's career was coming to an end: only nine flying examples remained at Migalovo. It was now outnumbered by the much more powerful An-124 Ruslan jet, which entered service in the 1980s as the world's heaviest production transport aircraft, capable of carrying up to 150 tons.


However, the military decided to retain the An-22, albeit in limited numbers, since it was cheaper to operate than the An-124 but had a much larger cargo hold than the Il-76. It's also possible that the shortage of transport aircraft was already beginning to make itself felt.

However, plans to modernize the surviving An-22s fell through, reducing the number of active aircraft in the Russian Aerospace Forces to five.

Western media outlets were quick to point out that, with at least one An-22 apparently being prepared for return to service with the Russian Aerospace Forces, this paints a rather bleak picture of the state of transport aviation.

Despite the fact that a significant number of Il-76s remain in service in Russia, the An-124 has also failed to resume production in the cargo sector. The main problem is the shortage of suitable engines—the original D-18T turbofan engine was manufactured by Motor Sich at its Zaporizhzhia plant, which is experiencing certain issues. Furthermore, Motor Sich is the only company capable of overhauling these engines, reducing the operational availability of Russia's An-124 fleet. This factor could also have impacted the planned return of the An-22 to service.

Plans to develop a completely new, all-Russian successor to the Ukrainian An-124 have not yet been realized.

Overall, Russia's fleet of transport aircraft is rapidly becoming obsolete, and this may have been the cause of other recent accidents involving Antonov aircraft, which have claimed dozens of lives.

But let's now take a general look at what our Aerospace Forces operate with in terms of transport and special aviation.


Il-76. Produced since 1973. Currently in production.


An-26. Produced from 1969 to 1986. Production has ceased, making the youngest aircraft 40 years old.


An-72. Produced from 1982 to 1993. Production is now discontinued; the youngest aircraft is 32 years old.


An-124. Produced from 1984 to 2004. Production is now discontinued; the youngest aircraft is 21 years old.


An-22. Which is no longer in service, but... It was produced from 1966 to 1976. At least 50 years of service.


An-30. Produced from 1971 to 1980. Production discontinued after 45 years of service.


Il-20. Produced from 1968 to 1976. Production ceased after 50 years in service.

We can also recall the fifty Tu-134s, whose age is also gradually approaching their half-century anniversary, and the newest ones are quietly approaching forty years.

The biggest problem is that all aircraft produced under the Antonov brand can be written off. In the Russian context, it's simply impossible to provide these aircraft with adequate care and maintenance: the production base remains in Ukraine, there are no spare parts, no engines. The crashed An-22 was a clear indication of this.

Aviastar, of course, does everything possible to maintain the operability of Antonov aircraft, but the capabilities of this enterprise, unfortunately, are not unlimited.

The main thing is that there are no engines for An aircraft. Starting with the An-124, which became the subject of a myth about Ruslans being assembled in Ulyanovsk from Russian components. That would have been great, of course, but the D-18T couldn't be copied, and the Russian PD-35 engine, which could have lifted an aircraft of this class, is, alas... lost somewhere in the future.

In general, all projects to resume production of any Antonov aircraft are just pipe dreams. They're not too much to ask; after all, the Antonovs were Soviet creations, and their components were assembled at hundreds of factories, while the basic documentation remained in Kyiv and Zaporizhzhia.

Therefore, all rumors about the possible start of production of the Russian An-124 remain just that: rumors. In fact, there are certain doubts that the Russian aviation industry is capable of undertaking projects like reviving An-124 production. It's just too... far-fetched.

And besides, what's the point? Yes, NK-12MP engines are produced, no problem. But there are no An-22 airframes for them, and there never will be. I don't even want to talk about the An-124, because there's nothing.

It's good that we have the Il-76, which has everything it needs. And it continues to carry all the needs of the Aerospace Forces' military transport aviation, but here's the problem: the needs far exceed the capabilities.


Of course, replacing the ten An-124s remaining in service with Ilyushins is easy. But replacing the Ruslans will require replacing 150 An-26s and An-72s. These aircraft are of a slightly different size and intended use. And there's no immediate replacement for them; after the An-148 and Il-112V disasters, we don't even have any candidates for that role.

And this is very alarming. The service life of aircraft with Ukrainian roots is limited, and, as the An-22 has already shown, the aircraft tend to fail to understand that they "need to serve longer." And they fail, taking their crews with them.

Unfortunately, transport aircraft don't have fighter jet ejection seats and are crewed by more than one person. Therefore, every military transport aircraft crash results in 6-8 fatalities.

In our time, this is an unforgivable waste of human lives. It's clear that these people will climb into the cockpit and take off even without a strict order; that's their nature. And those who send them on such a hugely risky flight will regret only the personal problems that another disaster will cause them. Usually, those who give the order to "fly at any cost" never get behind the controls.

This is Russia's second problem.

Will the Il-76 be able to replace all the Antonov aircraft currently in service with the Aerospace Forces? It's doubtful. It lacks the payload capacity and range of the An-22 and An-124, or the mobility of the An-72 and An-26. Of course, we can work around this; in fact, any scenario where we don't lose pilots through stupidity would be a good one. And trying to return a 50-year-old aircraft to service because it's "really needed" isn't stupidity; it's a crime. Those who allowed it to happen should be held accountable.

We laugh at the Americans, who are trying with all their might to keep their B-52s afloat, the youngest of which is already over 60 years old, but those are Americans, they're famous... And us? Are we much better?

And the last question into the void: Rostec, will we have aircraft for the military transport aviation?
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  1. +6
    17 December 2025 03: 53
    Will the Il-76 be able to replace all the Antonov aircraft that were and are in service with the Aerospace Forces? It does not have the carrying capacity and range of the An-22 and An-124, or the mobility of the An-72 and An-26.

    The most important thing is that it doesn't have a wide cargo compartment to transport tanks. As far as I know, we don't even have plans for tank transporters. Ultimately, the military transport aviation is in trouble; we need to negotiate with China for the purchase of the Xian Y-20 and Xian Y-9.
    1. +7
      17 December 2025 05: 06
      Keep an eye on the Y-15, which could become the primary medium military transport aircraft of the future. The Y-9 will likely be a dedicated carrier for special modifications.
    2. +7
      17 December 2025 05: 15
      Quote: Puncher
      We don't even have plans for tank transporters.

      And good. Why do you need tank carriers? If it comes down to it, the Il-76 (and the An-124, too) could transport a tank. But no one even thinks of doing that. They use railways for that. Or car carriers.
      1. +1
        17 December 2025 05: 46
        Quote: Stas157
        Why do you need tank carriers?

        Transporting tanks, what's unclear?
        Quote: Stas157
        For that matter, the Il-76 (An-124 too) can transfer the tank.

        Il-76 maybe, only after some "dancing with tambourines" because it was close, Ruslan, yes, he carried it without any problems.
        Quote: Stas157
        But it never occurs to anyone to do this.

        They came and did it.
        Quote: Stas157
        For this purpose, railway tracks are used.

        Transfer speed.
        1. 11+
          17 December 2025 05: 59
          Quote: Puncher
          They came and did it.

          It seems several tanks were delivered to Syria by air. The rest were delivered by sea. The need to transport tanks by air exists only in very limited scenarios. And we already have such aircraft. Designing new aircraft specifically for transporting tanks is not very practical. Such an opportunity may never arise.
          1. 0
            17 December 2025 07: 35
            The only option is to purchase Chinese transport aircraft... unfortunately, there are no other options in sight yet...
            1. 18+
              17 December 2025 08: 28
              So, true to the precepts of Yegorka the Great, we will never produce anything in Russia?!
              1. 15+
                17 December 2025 08: 56
                Quote: Gardamir
                So, true to the precepts of Yegorka the Great, we will never produce anything in Russia?!

                I don't see any opponents of such positions... so this is the new norm.
                1. +4
                  20 December 2025 15: 41
                  Quote: Civil
                  The only option is to purchase Chinese transport aircraft... unfortunately, there are no other options in sight yet...

                  Re-motorization and major repairs of An-124 engines?
                  We have more than two dozen such aircraft. And a new engine for their modernization (PD-26) has already been ordered. So how will it be possible not only to return all existing Ruslans to service, but also to resume their production in Ulyanovsk?
                  We have a license and all the technical documentation for the An-140 (developed by the Antonov Design Bureau for and with funding from the Russian Ministry of Defense) to replace the An-26. We have the engines for it. Moreover, we could cooperate with Iran on their production, as they also have a license for their domestically produced modification, the An-140 "Semurg." So, if you want, you're all set. Russia managed to assemble two An-140s before the coup in Kyiv. I'm confident that we have everything we need for cooperation to produce them, or that it wouldn't be difficult at all to arrange.
                  The An-148 was planned and even built in Russia under license to replace the An-72. The story is the same: WE'RE JUST BUILDING IT OURSELVES, because we have the license and it was developed for us and with our own money. And now we have the engines for it—the very same PD-8s that are finishing certification. And since they're somewhat more powerful, the performance (takeoff and load capacity) of our An-148M (or Il-148M) will be even better. We have all the documentation, and these aircraft were mass-produced in Voronezh.
                  Why did the idiots start with the Il-112?
                  Sabotage multiplied by poorly written technical specifications. We already had the An-140; rename it the Il-140 and put it into production. The existing engines for the An-140 were just right, but for the Il-12, even the uprated ones were patently weak. This was known from the start, but the specifications were approved anyway. They wasted a ton of time, money, and lives. And left the Aerospace Forces and the Army without a light transport aircraft.
                  Why is everything like this?
                  SABOTAGE in the Shoigi Ministry of Defense.
                  As for the Chinese aircraft... I have a proposal (pardon the tautology) to offer the Chinese a joint program for a new heavy transport aircraft with a carrying capacity of 70-80 tons, based on the Y-20 but with two of our PD-35 engines. It will be a good aircraft, with a high load capacity and very fuel-efficient. Moreover, we are not agreeing on "joint production", but on the joint development of new design documentation for it, and we will each build it ourselves, but we will supply (without technology transfer!!) PD-35 engines to China. This aircraft was developed for them by the Antonov Design Bureau based on the An-70, the development of which we financed 50%, so these are our rights too. And we will build such aircraft in Ulyanovsk, for example. It will be the best heavy aircraft of our time, capable of transporting a tank + ammunition and fuel reserves on a support vehicle. Just like the legendary Soviet "Antey" An-22 did.
                  The proposal is good, and it's quick and easy to implement. It would also provide incentive to complete work on the PD-35 (which was supposed to begin flight testing next year) and even return to the joint Project 929 program. But we'd build it separately again—each one for themselves, and the engines would be ours. So, two Big Projects for the PD-35 engine. No technology transfer involved—direct and immediate delivery of our engines to Chinese aircraft manufacturers. Just as they were planning to buy such engines from the US (or England).
                  Any good suggestions?
                  And most importantly, they are logical and, as goals, easily achievable.
                  What about MO?
                  And the Ministry of Defense has a new Minister of Defense, who's got a good head on his shoulders and is far more business-like than the previous one. And we desperately need this (PLANES, damn it), and it's not hard to organize... we'll see.
                  1. 0
                    22 December 2025 06: 54
                    Quote: bayard
                    Quote: Civil
                    The only option is to purchase Chinese transport aircraft... unfortunately, there are no other options in sight yet...

                    Re-motorization and major repairs of An-124 engines?
                    We have more than two dozen such aircraft. And a new engine for their modernization (PD-26) has already been ordered. So how will it be possible not only to return all existing Ruslans to service, but also to resume their production in Ulyanovsk?
                    We have a license and all the technical documentation for the An-140 (developed by the Antonov Design Bureau for and with funding from the Russian Ministry of Defense) to replace the An-26. We have the engines for it. Moreover, we could cooperate with Iran on their production, as they also have a license for their domestically produced modification, the An-140 "Semurg." So, if you want, you're all set. Russia managed to assemble two An-140s before the coup in Kyiv. I'm confident that we have everything we need for cooperation to produce them, or that it wouldn't be difficult at all to arrange.
                    The An-148 was planned and even built in Russia under license to replace the An-72. The story is the same: WE'RE JUST BUILDING IT OURSELVES, because we have the license and it was developed for us and with our own money. And now we have the engines for it—the very same PD-8s that are finishing certification. And since they're somewhat more powerful, the performance (takeoff and load capacity) of our An-148M (or Il-148M) will be even better. We have all the documentation, and these aircraft were mass-produced in Voronezh.
                    Why did the idiots start with the Il-112?
                    Sabotage multiplied by poorly written technical specifications. We already had the An-140; rename it the Il-140 and put it into production. The existing engines for the An-140 were just right, but for the Il-12, even the uprated ones were patently weak. This was known from the start, but the specifications were approved anyway. They wasted a ton of time, money, and lives. And left the Aerospace Forces and the Army without a light transport aircraft.
                    Why is everything like this?
                    SABOTAGE in the Shoigi Ministry of Defense.
                    As for the Chinese aircraft... I have a proposal (pardon the tautology) to offer the Chinese a joint program for a new heavy transport aircraft with a carrying capacity of 70-80 tons, based on the Y-20 but with two of our PD-35 engines. It will be a good aircraft, with a high load capacity and very fuel-efficient. Moreover, we are not agreeing on "joint production", but on the joint development of new design documentation for it, and we will each build it ourselves, but we will supply (without technology transfer!!) PD-35 engines to China. This aircraft was developed for them by the Antonov Design Bureau based on the An-70, the development of which we financed 50%, so these are our rights too. And we will build such aircraft in Ulyanovsk, for example. It will be the best heavy aircraft of our time, capable of transporting a tank + ammunition and fuel reserves on a support vehicle. Just like the legendary Soviet "Antey" An-22 did.
                    The proposal is good, and it's quick and easy to implement. It would also provide incentive to complete work on the PD-35 (which was supposed to begin flight testing next year) and even return to the joint Project 929 program. But we'd build it separately again—each one for themselves, and the engines would be ours. So, two Big Projects for the PD-35 engine. No technology transfer involved—direct and immediate delivery of our engines to Chinese aircraft manufacturers. Just as they were planning to buy such engines from the US (or England).
                    Any good suggestions?
                    And most importantly, they are logical and, as goals, easily achievable.
                    What about MO?
                    And the Ministry of Defense has a new Minister of Defense, who's got a good head on his shoulders and is far more business-like than the previous one. And we desperately need this (PLANES, damn it), and it's not hard to organize... we'll see.

                    All these proposals appeared in VO articles over 10 years ago... and then every year since. You probably don't fully understand how aircraft manufacturing works, where plans, unfortunately, are rewritten every year.
                    1. +1
                      22 December 2025 11: 13
                      Quote: Civil
                      You probably don't quite understand how the aircraft industry works.

                      Well, I still remember how complex production is organized, where well-established production cooperation and logistics for all the components of the final product are critical. Russia retains some (most) of the Soviet aircraft factories and even design bureaus, but as for production cooperation enterprises... it's all very sad. Things were somehow manageable until 2014, when cooperative ties with used aircraft manufacturers were in place, where some (and quite a bit) of the Soviet aircraft manufacturing legacy had also been preserved, but after Maidan... and especially after Russia imposed sanctions on Western components... Everything became blindingly clear. And we had to choose: either restore all production for domestic cooperation within the domestic aircraft industry, or abandon aircraft manufacturing altogether and completely (in terms of civil and transport aviation). And since we were left with no other alternative, we began rebuilding our own production of complex modern avionics systems and many other industry-specific components. There was simply no other way.
                      Quote: bayard
                      Quote: Civil
                      The only option is to purchase Chinese transport aircraft... unfortunately, there are no other options in sight yet...

                      And abandon any hopes of buying anything Chinese; their industry is also in shambles—they've also been cut off from Western components, technology, and engines. All their civil aircraft programs have ground to a halt. The transport sector is more complicated, but it's also very serious.
                      But in the Russian Federation, through "I can't/I don't want to/I won't," through sabotage by foreign agents of the vertical power structure and simply lazy people and embezzlers... certain processes are underway to restore the industrial autarky of the domestic aircraft industry. Things are complicated and quite painful there, but in our case, the external environment is helping, and the "laws of time" are starting to apply. Now the Chinese have come to us for engines. They've come again. They've been tricky again. They were told: no technology transfer, no joint projects with technology transfer, but if you need and want BUY - finished products and on a long-term basis. We need to boost our aircraft engine industry, and if you place long-term orders for our engines, we kindly ask you to sign strict and binding contracts. And for other aircraft components too.
                      Quote: Civil
                      plans, unfortunately, are rewritten every year.

                      laughing Manturov laughing There's no need to add anything here. An invaluable imitator and ecologist who understands EVERYTHING. The very idea of ​​creating the Ministry of Industry and Trade, gathering dozens of Soviet industrial ministries into it, and then adding Trade, and all of it, from retail at the market to international... that's it. fellow Scale. This is Power. This is horizons. This is Manturov. No longer there, but still a universal ecologist. Everything is complicated there - in the towers. We'll see how it goes.
            2. -7
              17 December 2025 09: 26
              Quote: Civil
              The only option is to purchase Chinese transport aircraft... unfortunately, there are no other options in sight yet...

              Why can't I see it? Transport planes are very expensive and specialized; we could build new planes with the same Indian or Chinese manufacturers. Of course, there are a lot of problems here, but if you sit and torture the keyboard, then nothing will happen.
              1. +7
                17 December 2025 09: 35
                Quote: APASUS
                Quote: Civil
                The only option is to purchase Chinese transport aircraft... unfortunately, there are no other options in sight yet...

                Why can't I see it? Transport planes are very expensive and specialized; we could build new planes with the same Indian or Chinese manufacturers. Of course, there are a lot of problems here, but if you sit and torture the keyboard, then nothing will happen.

                Why do they need this? Especially China? To fall under sanctions, or do they have some of the latest Soviet technology?
                We're tormenting Klava because truth is born in discussion. VO isn't the State Duma yet.
                1. -4
                  17 December 2025 09: 39
                  Quote: Civil
                  Why do they need this? Especially China? To fall under sanctions, or do they have some of the latest Soviet technology?

                  There are no transport companies on the market, absolutely none! It's our noble people who use the AN-124 and provide services to the entire world. The US doesn't provide any, and why bother?
                  And you can get sanctioned if you don't like gays, and that's bad enough. And no one will offer polymer fuselage or wing technologies to China and India, and that's still a specific area.
                  1. +3
                    17 December 2025 09: 51
                    There are no transporters on the market, well, NONE at all!

                    India, in partnership with Boeing, produces the medium-sized CASA C-295, and Boeing also supplies the C-17 Globemaster III, for example. China produces everything itself.
                    1. -3
                      17 December 2025 09: 56
                      and supplies the C-17 Globemaster III
                      - They stopped producing them ten years ago.... bully
                    2. +2
                      17 December 2025 10: 39
                      Quote: Civil
                      India is partnering with Boeing to produce the medium-sized CASA C-295.

                      Are you serious? This is a transporter?
                      Military transport version. Capacity: 71 soldiers, 48 ​​paratroopers, 27 stretchers, five 2,24 × 2,74 m (88 × 108 in) pallets, or three light vehicles.
                      Quote: Civil
                      Boeing supplies the C-17 Globemaster III, for example.

                      Who does it supply to? Canada, England, and Australia, not India or China.
                      and there won't be!
              2. +8
                17 December 2025 12: 55
                Of course there are a lot of problems here, but if you sit and torture the keyboard, then nothing will happen.

                The point is, there's no program for the country's development. Who's supposed to decide and act? So they're just sitting there, slaving away at the keyboard. Of course, "Transport planes are very expensive and specialized," so who's going to invest? It takes so much money. The new bourgeoisie won't invest in a country they don't intend to live in. Modern Russia isn't the USSR; the system isn't the same, the goals aren't the same.
            3. +2
              17 December 2025 16: 52
              What a shame, this is what we’ve come to with our idiotic market economy!!!
              1. +4
                17 December 2025 17: 07
                Under Gosplan there was no such chaos, we produced everything ourselves, but now wherever you spit there is dependence on imports, we have completely forgotten how to do our own thing, we only look for profit in everything.
                1. -5
                  19 December 2025 20: 04
                  Of course, there was no chaos under Gosplan. They simply churned out as many as they were told, and whether it was necessary or not was irrelevant. That's why they were sitting in a country with a ton of metal, but they couldn't even produce enough decent saucepans. But they had as many giant airplanes as they wanted.
                  1. +3
                    20 December 2025 10: 05
                    Now sit there with your pots and pans, but without any planes, no one will supply us with anything, and it's a shame to have an aerospace industry and not have the ability and desire to provide ourselves with a sufficient number of planes and satellites, not to mention supplies for export, we should first fully provide ourselves, and then plan to supply something somewhere else.
                  2. +4
                    20 December 2025 15: 32
                    even normal pots
                    Did you actually see the USSR, or did Rabinovich just sing it out? Aluminum and enamel ones have always been around. You can find them in any hardware store. I still use pots from those days, and a cast-iron frying pan. Unfortunately, they're no longer available.
        2. +7
          17 December 2025 08: 43
          But Stas is right. What about transport speed? That all applied to the Soviet Army, when there were plenty of planes and the need for airlifts. And yet, tanks were still transported by rail. The only justification is the Kaliningrad region. But even there, in the event of a skirmish, the planes and tanks won't make it. Previous calculations don't apply to the current situation.
    3. 19+
      17 December 2025 06: 09
      An An-22, a heavy transport aircraft, crashed in the Ivanovo region, killing the entire crew.
      This incident is notable because...

      This is not a crash or an incident, this is an aviation disaster.
    4. +8
      17 December 2025 11: 18
      Quote: Puncher
      The most important thing is that it does not have a wide cargo cabin that would allow transporting tanks.

      Apparently, the T-72 fits into the Il-76's cargo hold (the Indians checked). But it's practically a stretch: one step left, one step right—and the plane is a write-off.
      1. +3
        17 December 2025 22: 38
        Well, that's what I'm talking about...we even discussed the Russian Airborne Forces with you regarding the topic of the Airborne Forces.
        Wide-body military transport aircraft similar to the C-17 or An-22 are needed.
    5. +5
      17 December 2025 11: 25
      And here is the loading of the BMPT into the Il-76.

      1. VlK
        +1
        17 December 2025 19: 59
        Perhaps it's more relevant now to transport air defense systems using military transport aircraft. The same Pantsir fits into the Il-76, I wonder?
    6. +3
      18 December 2025 13: 28
      We have the An-124 in service, which is capable of transporting tanks; no one makes special tank transporters.
      C-5 - US Air Force (newest, 1989)
      The Il-76 has the same cargo capacity as the An-22.
  2. +6
    17 December 2025 04: 04
    But there was no need to bankrupt GAO TAPOiCH!
    1. +7
      17 December 2025 05: 11
      A question for independent Uzbeks: could they produce airplanes, do they produce cauldrons, and what else?
      1. +1
        17 December 2025 16: 32
        From 1991 (from the beginning of Mustaqillik) to 2012, they produced both the IL-76 and IL-114 aircraft.
        Orders from Ilyushin Finance ceased and the plant went bust.
        1. Des
          0
          18 December 2025 17: 39
          Quote: andrewkor
          From 1991 (from the beginning of Mustaqillik) to 2012, they produced both the IL-76 and IL-114 aircraft.

          How many Il-76 and Il-114 were produced over these 20 years?
      2. +6
        17 December 2025 19: 24
        It has been about 35 years since the workers of this former plant lost their qualifications.
    2. 25+
      17 December 2025 05: 24
      Who's the question for? Russia wanted to buy TAPOiCh shares, but Karimov personally refused, as he planned to set up Boeing production there. Many workers, along with their entire families, left Tashkent for Ulyanovsk. The plant simply became unemployable.
      P.S. On one of the factory's sites, they built the Sarbast brewery, which brews Uzbek Tuborg, which, by the way, is quite good. Such is the metamorphosis. "From the stars to the thorns."
      1. -2
        17 December 2025 05: 38
        Quote: Amateur
        Uzbek "Tuborg"
        It's just like Icelandic champagne! I had a blast this morning! wink
        1. +7
          17 December 2025 05: 52
          At first, they brewed licensed Tuborg there, using their equipment, their raw materials, and even their brand name. Then things didn't work out, and the beer and brewery were renamed Sarbast, but the equipment, technology, and most importantly, the quality, remained.
      2. -1
        17 December 2025 16: 37
        UAC offered Uzbekistan a share exchange, not a buyout, but Karimov insisted on selling a controlling stake for only $130 million.
      3. +1
        17 December 2025 16: 51
        You're talking about the "M" site—the foundry, the forge, the tooling shop, and the consumer goods shop. The brewery was built on the premises of the latter. Much later, the rest was occupied by a metalworking company, a state-of-the-art production facility.
        Terr "A" - Navruz Park, Terr "B" - Technopark and TMZ.
    3. +5
      17 December 2025 06: 13
      Quote: andrewkor
      But there was no need to bankrupt GAO TAPOiCH!

      Russia didn't bankrupt it. On the contrary, they wanted to buy the shares (a controlling stake). They wanted to integrate the plant into the UAC, to revive it. Fruitless negotiations about this lasted for seven years. Russia tried.
      1. 12+
        17 December 2025 07: 43
        On the contrary, they wanted to buy shares (a controlling stake). They wanted to integrate the plant into the UAC.

        No. Nothing of the sort happened. The guarantor is fulfilling all the agreements signed by Yeltsin with the US regarding the liquidation of all Russian industry. And this is the main condition for joining the WTO.
        I myself worked at TAPOiCh from 1992 to 2013 in the chief designer’s department.
        Therefore, I'm well aware of the entire situation with the so-called "reanimation" and "integration," and, of course, the launch of Il-76 production in Ulyanovsk.
        1. +3
          17 December 2025 09: 38
          So maybe you can tell us this story?
          1. 14+
            17 December 2025 09: 50
            It will take a very long time there.
            In short, somewhere around 2010, the guarantor decided to establish production of the Il-76 in Ulyanovsk.
            We contacted TAPOiCh in Tashkent for help. By this time, Ilyushin Aviation Company had already designed a new wing for the "new" 76, using different materials and a different assembly process.
            In 2011, we from the chief designer's department were officially hired part-time at Ilyushin Aviation Complex in Moscow. We participated in the transfer of design documentation to Ulyanovsk, including drawing new feeder circuits.
            And then, I don't remember a year ago, Russia bought or took the remaining Il-76 fuselages in Tashkent. Just metal boxes. And they were transported in trailers, I think, to Taganrog. After repairing the roads first. Here's a photo.
            1. +3
              17 December 2025 16: 43
              There are still about five 76-type housings in a set at LIS, no one needs them now, only for recycling at Vtortsvetmet (there is such a company - aluminum, lead, copper, stainless steel).
      2. 0
        17 December 2025 16: 38
        For more information on promotions, see my post above.
    4. -2
      17 December 2025 08: 45
      Oh, wow! Then the counter-argument: "They shouldn't have removed the Antonov Design Bureau from Novosibirsk."
      1. +9
        17 December 2025 11: 03
        There was no need to remove the Antonov Design Bureau from Novosibirsk

        Antonov's design bureau was also in Tashkent at the 84th aircraft plant, later TAPOiCh.
        In Tashkent, they produced the An-8, An-12, An-22, as well as either 64 or 68 sets of wings for the An-124 and An-225, for Ulyanovsk and Kyiv.
        And wing kits for the An-70.
      2. -1
        30 December 2025 14: 24
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        There was no need to remove the Antonov Design Bureau from Novosibirsk.

        I once asked veterans of our military industry their opinions on why and what for. After all, the experience of the Great Patriotic War clearly demonstrated that key production facilities CANNOT be located in Ukraine. They are within range of NATO strike systems and will be destroyed or require immediate evacuation in the first days of the conflict.

        To which I was almost always given the same answer: work white there is nobodyThere weren't enough people. The war had wiped out the men. And indeed, it was true. Ukraine was occupied by the Germans in 1941 and liberated only in 1944. This means that the Battle of Moscow, the failed offensive of 1942, Stalingrad, the Battle of Kursk, and all the other bloodiest battles of WWII, including Operation Bagration, were fought without the participation of Ukrainians. It was primarily the citizens of the RSFSR who contributed. Therefore, demographic losses in the RSFSR were far more severe than in Ukraine. Therefore, there was simply no one to expand production in Russia. Meanwhile, a significant number of pre-war specialists remained in Ukraine, since (as one of the UVZ museum employees said), when factories were evacuated from Ukraine, only about a third of the Ukrainians actually left. The rest, having received funds for relocation, decided they could survive under the Germans and stayed. Those demobilized in 1945-1945 were unable to fill the personnel shortage, either in quantity or quality. And they had something to do.

        "Front-line soldiers remember well the post-war 40s, when they returned to devastated cities and starving villages," lamented writer Vasil Bykov. "No one back then expected any prosperity or aspired to privileges—they had to put in hellish labor and rebuild what had been destroyed."
  3. +8
    17 December 2025 05: 13
    [Rostec, will we have aircraft for the military transport?]
    They won't until they restore order.
    1. +6
      17 December 2025 08: 46
      It's not a matter of order, as such. There are simply no personnel or many technologies or equipment.
      1. +2
        17 December 2025 15: 44
        So there were no personnel, etc., due to the lack of order as such...
      2. +1
        17 December 2025 16: 29
        We have everything. We just need Chemezov to fly on a Russian plane, not a Boeing. Everything will appear quickly.
        1. 0
          30 December 2025 14: 43
          Really? And who will design them? Chemezov personally? Or his deputies?
          The aviation industry's talent pool has been completely lost, and it's not Rostec's fault, but Pogosyan's: the concentration of all programs within a single industrial cooperation. Sukhoi's design bureau isn't infinite, and MAI produces engineers every year. All the other design bureaus quietly and peacefully folded from starvation. The USSR understood the perils of monopolization, so they maintained a dozen design bureaus. And who's going to do it now? Tupolev? Is there anything left there at all, except a shopping mall? How long have they been making the PAK DA? And they still can't even imagine what it looks like. Ilyushin? Well, they made the Il-112, and not only did they fail to meet the performance specifications, they also crashed it during testing. And that's not an An-124, far from it. Yakovlev exists only as a brand; it participated in the MS-21 project back in the almost-Soviet era (1990-1993) with a Yak-42 (Yak-242) re-engined with the PD-90A. The design bureau hasn't developed anything independent for a very long time. Myasishchev? Beriev?

          Where to do it? We can find an aircraft factory. But what about the staff? The MiG aircraft factory in Lukhovitsy is idle. Do you really think people sit there and wait for years? Everyone's long gone, and more than once.
          1. 0
            30 December 2025 15: 39
            Of course, this can't be accomplished in a year. If someone magically started paying valuable staff—engineers, designers, and the like—a multiple of the average salary, then people would come running from their pensions, and schoolchildren would flock to school in May. But here, only the appointed management receives high salaries, while the direct performers get 70 rubles, and the rest is bonuses for overtime, etc. So there's no one to work, and those who do work are doing so out of sheer enthusiasm, contrary to the system.
            1. +1
              30 December 2025 16: 05
              Here's the problem: School isn't about 70-year-olds sharing a department with 23-year-olds. It doesn't work that way, proven. School is about 40-50-year-olds with 15-20 years of experience in the profession. They're the main "pulling force," relying on the experience of their elders while also being generous with the young.
              But they're the ones who don't study at universities or return from retirement. And having left the industry back in the 90s, even if they returned now with a higher salary, they wouldn't be able to do anything.
              1. 0
                30 December 2025 17: 39
                There are quite a few people who worked until they were 25 or 30 and then went freelance. It's possible to bring them back.
                And anyway, it's not the gods who make the best of things. With the right motivation, you can fill in the gaps in your knowledge yourself, or you can even outbid Boeing and Airbus specialists. It's just that if you do nothing, nothing will happen, and our bosses don't get beyond talk.
    2. +6
      17 December 2025 09: 31
      The last question into the void: Rostec, will we have aircraft for the military transport aviation?
      Quote: d ^ Amir
      They won't until they restore order.
      As they say, 'they took the words right out of my mouth' drinks As long as liberal tendencies in the governance of the State are present, we will hear about unparalleled: it is more convenient to master financial flows under projects and there is no responsibility.
      The question should be When will they be? Who is responsible?
  4. 33+
    17 December 2025 05: 25
    The lack of aircraft for military transport is not a standalone issue. The primary issue is the collapse of the transport aviation industry. It's worth repeating that the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, using the State Duma as a platform, has been appealing to the authorities for decades, demanding that they address the industry's catastrophic state.
    But the party of the simple majority brushed aside the communists like pesky flies. And even then, the supplies of Western technology were, firstly, most likely well-incentivized, and secondly, brought fabulous profits into the pockets of certain, very special citizens.
    Current attempts to restore this ashes are commendable in principle, but the initial results are a failure.
    In any case, plans to produce aircraft in 23-25 ​​have been disrupted, as they will be disrupted in the next 3 years.
    Few Il-76s are being made.
    The Il-276 and a certain Elephant projects became merely the subjects of publications from the “This is interesting” series.
    The aviation industry itself, despite its visible efforts, is completely unable to produce its flagship product—the airplane. Because there's no money, no equipment, no tools, no industrial personnel.
    People have no desire to take up a place in the queue at the factory's HR departments. And there are no queues anyway.
    Meanwhile, right under our noses, the West is snatching 300 billion American rubles from our hands that we've been holding. And there's still plenty left.
    Our own Central Bank (which isn't ours, and isn't even supposedly ours) prefers to keep OUR money away from us. It's scary to even imagine the impact even 50 billion of the stolen money could have had if invested in the aviation industry. Yes, yes, but...no! ©
    The cruel irony is that life teaches lessons to those in power, punishing them for their "sweet" bourgeois life. The trouble is, the entire country suffers along with these bourgeois.
    1. 21+
      17 December 2025 05: 43
      Quote: U-58
      What effect could at least 50 billion of the stolen money have had if they had been invested in the aviation industry?
      The "great economist" Kudrin, when he was still Finance Minister, boasted that Russia had earned $6 billion in income from our money invested in American bonds. Why would people like Kudrin and his ilk invest when they could earn interest on their investments without doing anything?
    2. 22+
      17 December 2025 05: 53
      Quote: U-58
      The trouble is that the whole country suffers along with these bourgeois.

      And in the near future, I personally don’t see even a glimmer of light!
    3. +9
      17 December 2025 07: 02
      It's scary to even imagine what effect even 50 billion of the stolen money could have had if they had been invested in the aviation industry. Yes, yes, but... no! ©

      What's there to imagine if the industry is on its side? They would have been stolen by other people, who would have put the industry on its side in the first place...
      or do you believe in "fairy tales"?
  5. 23+
    17 December 2025 05: 54
    We're not only struggling with transport aircraft, but also with anti-submarine aircraft, air defense aircraft, electronic warfare aircraft, signals intelligence aircraft, and tankers. And even with combat aircraft, things aren't going smoothly.
    1. 12+
      17 December 2025 07: 10
      We have problems not only with transport aircraft, but also with anti-submarine aircraft, with air defense aircraft, electronic warfare, radio reconnaissance, and with tankers.

      Before our partners left us, young people after university were eager to get into Boeing-related structures, and it was mainly the best who got in...
      The partners left and many of those who worked for them followed them...
      What I'm getting at is: our higher education is a mess, and the UAC (the main consumer of graduates) is apparently in the same situation - since the youth looked the other way... so how can the aircraft manufacturing industry change - if the only really visible resource is "talking heads" with their endless promises?
      We need to start from school, so that the students there aspire to be engineers, not blochers and bankers...
      Everything must start from "0"
      1. 12+
        17 December 2025 07: 46
        ...we need to start with school, so that it's not the blokhers and bankers who aspire to become engineers there, but rather...
        Unfortunately, this is a matter of global change in education, a shift in the system of "educational service delivery," and a transition to a more nurturing and educational process. This process affects the entire system, from primary to higher education. Changes in educational programs are aimed at cultivating thinking students who don't just exhaustively consider presented options, but develop a solution algorithm without the help of AI or searching for answers online.
        And in terms of education, I'd like to draw attention to teachers who impart an ideology alien to their students. And here's the time to recall how, in the West, ideas of social equality, communism, and so on were rooted out in the 50s and 60s by imposing bans on the professions of those who held such ideas.
        1. +5
          17 December 2025 08: 19
          I agree with you. But there's another nuance: raising the prestige of blue-collar jobs, i.e., social security, pay, and stability at the enterprise (example: EPK, defense industry, bearings. There were orders, but people were barely paid; now it's a complete disaster). People come to our plant, look at the volume of work (you're three in one, a reaper and a tailor), the salary, and leave saying, "I was paid more as a courier and had more free time." P.S., yes, you can earn more here, but then you'd have to live at the plant.
          1. 12+
            17 December 2025 10: 54
            "Prestigious job" is synonymous with "high-paying job." Unfortunately, the profession of "teacher" (where we should start) and blue-collar jobs are not considered such.
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          3. 11+
            17 December 2025 12: 15
            ...they look at the amount of work (you're three in one, both a reaper and a shvets), the salary, and leave...
            To earn a decent salary in all fields (medicine, education, defense, and even the average civil servant), those who work must do the work of two or three. It's all as the saying goes: one with a plow, seven with a spoon. For every working person, there are ten managers and inspectors, and everyone demands reports, performance data, information on corrections, and so on, and so on, and so on.
            1. +2
              17 December 2025 21: 16
              Something was recalled:
              "To build an ideal state, you need to assign two inspectors to each peasant, and three to supervise those two inspectors, and then a whole staff to supervise them, plus an independent audit." (M. Uspensky)
        2. 0
          30 December 2025 15: 04
          Quote: Apis1962
          And in terms of education, I would like to draw attention to teachers who bring to their students an ideology that is alien to us.


          And you don't want to look at teachers' salaries? At the total shortage of teachers in schools? No? Go straight to those who spread ideology. And who will replace them? Retired army and navy officers? That's how retirees flee from school. Because they have to work there. For real, not pretend. And not just the occasional appearance of a superior officer, but every day, 24/7. And army personnel aren't used to that. And children aren't subordinate to a teacher; you can't tell them off, or put them on the stand, or send them to the "guardhouse." That's why former epaulette-wearers flee school, tails between their legs, usually without even a year of service.
          And others don't go to school. Right now, schools are held together by the LAST graduating class of Soviet pedagogical universities. They'll leave, and that's it, "victims of the Unified State Exam." Come on, organize a "purge" of schools. It's not enough for us to have stories about "indecent photos" of teachers on the beach or in the pool; let's also have ideological purges. That's just the thing for the current situation with the teaching staff.
      2. +7
        17 December 2025 08: 43
        We need to start from school, so that the students there aspire to be engineers, not blochers and bankers...

        Um, what's the point? You're saying yourself that young engineers were once upon a time, but when confronted with our reality, they fled to Boeing. There should be projects, there should be financing (projects, not Italian villas disguised as projects), there should be a production base from which to assemble... well, yes, I'm dreaming.
        And without this application of knowledge—well, just fire those extra engineers. Did Boeing even thank you for the last one? Do you think Airbus or any of the Chinese will?
        1. +2
          17 December 2025 22: 47
          Quote: Engineer
          Um, what's the point? You're saying yourself that the young people were engineers, but when they encountered our reality, they ran off to work for Boeing.

          What are you talking about?! We'll send them, like doctors, to three years' imprisonment in a sharashka prison, "without the right to correspondence." And then we'll see how they behave. They wanted a Boeing, you see... laughing
          1. 0
            18 December 2025 11: 25
            Let's not bring doctors into this. It's all different there. An hourly appointment with neurologists and neurosurgeons at a private clinic costs anywhere from 2,5 rubles to infinity. There's a strong feeling they're not struggling.
          2. +1
            18 December 2025 17: 01
            ...And we, like doctors, send them to sharashkas for three years without the right to correspondence...
            Higher education is divided into those obtained through public funding and those obtained on a fee-paying basis, funded by the applicant or the enterprise. In my opinion, a graduate who receives a publicly funded education is obligated to work for 3-5 years at the place of placement. A graduate who receives a company-funded education is obligated to work at the enterprise that paid for it or to reimburse the costs.
            And there are no onerous restrictions here. Everything is completely honest and open.
            1. 0
              30 December 2025 15: 35
              Quote: Apis1962
              ...And we, like doctors, send them to sharashkas for three years without the right to correspondence...
              Higher education is divided into those obtained through public funding and those obtained on a fee-paying basis, funded by the applicant or the enterprise. In my opinion, a graduate who receives a publicly funded education is obligated to work for 3-5 years at the place of placement. A graduate who receives a company-funded education is obligated to work at the enterprise that paid for it or to reimburse the costs.
              And there are no onerous restrictions here. Everything is completely honest and open.


              If only we could understand how the distribution system worked in the Soviet education system, right? :)
              The placement wasn't a form of work, but a step in education. School and university provided a general education, often theoretical, aimed at a deep understanding of the theoretical basis of the profession. Not the ability to design four-cylinder light-fuel engines. But an understanding of how to design an internal combustion engine in general. Any kind.
              But he learned to design four-cylinder engines running on light or heavy fuel while working part-time. During this training, the graduate had certain unique rights. For example, he couldn't be fired or even assigned to work outside his specialty. And after three years, he would become an internal combustion engine designer specializing in four-cylinder engines.
              Why did they do this? Because NO ONE can EVER predict which specific specialists will be in demand five years from now, when a prospective student enters university. Maybe diesel engine drivers, maybe gasoline engine drivers. In the USSR, no one lied to themselves or harbored any illusions about a universal system. Every year, millions of "semi-finished" specialists were released into industry, who, within three years, became fully qualified specialists.
              But in the USSR, factories were state-owned. And the rules applied to everyone.

              And now, what rights are you going to use to assign graduates? Say, some engineer shows up at a private factory, and they give him a broom and throw it into the yard. Sweep! Yes, they needed engineers five years ago, but the project didn't take off, and now they're no longer needed. And the yard is filthy.
              Teachers can be sent to rural schools. But where will you house them? Three to a room in a dormitory left over from the USSR? In the USSR, when assigned to a village, teachers were provided with separate housing. Alternatively, the host country could pay for the rent.

              That's how the distribution system worked in the USSR. It wasn't a coercive measure, as everyone dreams of today.
              And most importantly, do you realize that teacher training colleges are chronically understaffed these days? For example, our physics and mathematics department closed due to chronic understaffing. In the USSR, there were two departments with 75 students each. The passing score for the history department at our university was 14 points from three exams. The physics and mathematics department recruited students using a different system: first, those who got an A on the math test, then those who got an A on the physics exam, and then the rest.

              Well, the logic behind the process is flawed, in my opinion. But that's another story...
        2. 0
          20 December 2025 16: 52
          Quote: Engineer
          We need to start from school, so that the students there aspire to be engineers, not blochers and bankers...

          Um, what's the point? You're saying yourself that young engineers were once upon a time, but when confronted with our reality, they fled to Boeing. There should be projects, there should be financing (projects, not Italian villas disguised as projects), there should be a production base from which to assemble... well, yes, I'm dreaming.
          And without this application of knowledge—well, just fire those extra engineers. Did Boeing even thank you for the last one? Do you think Airbus or any of the Chinese will?

          A skilled necromancer is needed to resurrect L.P. Beria and the Lubyanka staff of those years. Then it will work.
      3. +3
        17 December 2025 14: 39
        Everything must start from "0"

        (c) "To start from scratch, you still need to achieve it..."
      4. +4
        18 December 2025 01: 48
        Quote: Dedok
        We need to start from school, so that the students there aspire to be engineers, not blochers and bankers...

        We shouldn't start with school, but with the salaries of specialists. Then the kids will say, "Vaska's dad is a design engineer, Vaska is the most eligible bachelor, they promised to buy him an apartment for his 18th birthday!" And everyone will say, "I want to be an aeronautical engineer too!" And they will go looking for books on aerodynamics in the library. But in our factories, only the bosses are paid; the performers are paid at most—a Moscow salary, and that's if they work overtime, on Saturdays, and that's with bonuses. Otherwise, the rate will be 50. Yesterday's students will come, look at these life-weary aunts and uncles who come to work by bus, and say, "Why do I need all this?" What's the point? If it has to be this way, if our work is so important to the country, then why isn't it valued at 2-3-4 times the average salary? And they'll go to the office to resell Chinese junk. No amount of bullshit will turn schoolchildren into idiots willing to work for pennies for an idea until retirement.
        1. -1
          18 December 2025 11: 31
          I gave you a plus, but I don’t agree completely, not in everything.
          Our programmers used to work until they were 50, earning a bare salary. Then, a couple of years ago, the whole group left and found jobs with salaries starting at 100 rubles. Suddenly, they found themselves in demand, and very much so. We've already helped our children buy apartments in St. Petersburg and the surrounding area.
          1. 0
            18 December 2025 16: 01
            This is everywhere. An associate professor's salary at Moscow State University is just over 40,000 rubles, but at a fancy school on Rublyovka, they'd be eager to hire that same associate professor. Why treat old ladies for pennies at a clinic when you can charge 5,000 rubles a visit at a private clinic? Our neighbors arrived from Ukraine in the early 1990s; a former veterinarian from a collective farm went to treat the cats and dogs of the New Russians and immediately started raking in the money. As for the pigs on the collective farm—to hell with them; he has a wife and two kids, and that's who we should be worried about.
            1. +1
              20 December 2025 20: 44
              Why treat old ladies at a clinic for pennies when you can charge 5 rubles per appointment at a private clinic?
              For a private practice to hire such a doctor at this salary, the doctor must have at least 10 years of experience. And this experience must be in treatment, not just writing prescriptions from a script.
              1. -1
                20 December 2025 21: 18
                You could work in a state-run clinic for five years, combining it with a private one. They're just creeping along. There are tons of young, temporary workers just trying to get their work experience. Quite a few just come to a factory near Moscow to supposedly boost the defense industry, live in a dorm, and get a bonus as young professionals, but the bonus expires after three years and they look for better-paying jobs. And then they go into business.
                1. -1
                  27 December 2025 18: 41
                  Yes, you can work for five years in a state clinic, combining it with a private one. In the process, they crawl
                  A capitalist isn't a capitalist; a capitalist needs someone who will bring in real money, not negative comments on the website and on prodoctorov.ru. The truth is, businessmen have their share of quacks anyway.
                  1. 0
                    27 December 2025 20: 40
                    If the capitalist is still a small-time capitalist, he can avoid showing off and choose something a bit dumber. Besides, if the reviews aren't great, the price can be lowered.
                    1. 0
                      27 December 2025 21: 43
                      This phenomenon, not uncommon even among large capitalists, is also encountered: after a certain point, the hospital gradually begins to return to normal hospital conditions. And if the capitalist turns a blind eye to this, the commercial hospital will turn into a private clinic with free shoe covers at the entrance.
        2. 0
          20 December 2025 20: 42
          Vaska's dad is a design engineer, Vaska is the most eligible bachelor, they promised to buy him an apartment for his 18th birthday! And everyone will say - I want to be an aeronautical engineer too!
          All sorts of riffraff will flock to the profession. We've already seen this with IT. How many people got into it just for the money? So, what's our IT industry like?

          And in our production, they only pay the managers; the performers are paid a maximum of a Moscow salary, and that's if they work overtime, on Saturdays, and that's taking into account bonuses; otherwise, the rate will be 50 thousand.
          The Labor Commission should be here, in its full, promised form, and dealing with management to determine why this is happening. But this, like many others, is a completely useless government agency.
          1. 0
            20 December 2025 21: 15
            So, what is our IT like?
            Yes, it works quite well, just mostly for foreign customers, as usual.
            The Labor Commission should be here in its full promised height and should be dealing with the management to figure out why this is happening.
            At Lomonosov Moscow State University's Chemistry Department, engineers and lab technicians were paid less than the minimum wage at least ten years ago, and you could at least appeal—businesses can be harassed, while government agencies will compete to see who pays the least. This is obvious, and administrative scams are commonplace. I recently filed a complaint about a former lab manager patenting my work, and the dean's office pretended nothing happened, because it's common practice to issue patents in the manager's name without naming the people who actually did it. And I won't even mention cashing out or the "dead souls" issue.
            1. 0
              27 December 2025 18: 36
              At the Chemistry Department of Lomonosov Moscow State University, engineers and laboratory technicians were paid less than the minimum wage at least ten years ago.
              When it comes to the level below the subsistence minimum, the brutal treatment and disregard for employees, I cannot understand where the numerous regulatory bodies are looking.
              I sometimes immerse myself in this environment, talking to people who somehow survive on such handouts. I can hardly understand... in short, the topic is unpleasant and sad. And I also had to work with dead souls.
              1. 0
                27 December 2025 20: 46
                When it comes to state-owned companies, especially big names, it's like water off a duck's back. They need to replace the rector—a ton of revelations are coming out, he's steered all his relatives and friends into lucrative positions! The minister and the rector make peace—and that's it, those journalistic investigations are forgotten, the work is stalled, the deputies aren't sending inquiries to the prosecutor's office. They found a ton of dead souls at the HSE, they jailed Mau, then changed their minds. And yet the dead souls remain as numerous as before.
                This summer, our entire institute switched to fractional payrolls to comply with the May decrees. In our lab, for example, there are a whopping 0.8 scientific payrolls for everyone! My personal payroll is 2800 rubles, and the rest—well, you can figure it out on your own, get grants, find commercial opportunities. If you're given a gun, you have to do whatever you can.
                1. 0
                  3 January 2026 21: 05
                  It's sad, sad, disgusting, and unbearably repulsive. There are no other words. One can only paraphrase Napoleon: a nation that won't feed its own science (medicine) will feed someone else's. Looking around, we're very close to that.
    2. +7
      17 December 2025 11: 22
      Quote: AK-1945
      We have problems not only with transport aircraft, but also with anti-submarine aircraft, with air defense aircraft, electronic warfare, radio reconnaissance, and with tankers.

      So this is all a consequence of problems with transport aviation.
      Because the main problem with anti-submarine warfare, with air defense aircraft, electronic warfare, radio reconnaissance, with tankers - this is the lack of a base in the form of mass-produced transport aircraft with full localization.
    3. 0
      17 December 2025 15: 47
      Your list turned out to be very short. As they used to say in the army: "Wherever you kiss, there's ass everywhere."
  6. +8
    17 December 2025 07: 01
    The current management structure for the aviation industry is incapable of solving the problems of aircraft manufacturing. Everything has been crammed into a single ministry, but to no avail. We need to revive the Ministry of Aviation Industry, which has proven its effectiveness in aircraft development, design, and construction. We also need to revive the Ministry of Civil Aviation. At the very least, it will employ specialists with relevant education and diplomas. We need to revive companies with their own design bureaus and factories, with their own production facilities. As long as the industry is run by random people with party membership cards, there will be no progress. hi
    1. 12+
      17 December 2025 08: 15
      The Ministry of Aviation Industry needs to be revived

      So now the Minister of Industry and Trade is making promises, and the Minister of Aviation Industry and the Minister of Civil Aviation will be making promises. The growth is evident. wink
      1. 0
        17 December 2025 09: 37
        The system was different; they even produced unfinished planes, but they did so on schedule. If you try to miss the deadline, your party card is on the table, your job is gone. And no one gets a bonus. hi
        1. 0
          17 December 2025 09: 57
          but now it's not accepted like that... bully
        2. +2
          17 December 2025 11: 27
          Quote: V.
          The system was different; even unfinished planes were produced, but they were delivered on schedule. If you try to miss the deadline, your party card is on the table, and you're out of office.

          Yeah... and the first series of aircraft appeared - without the designed engines and avionics, because they didn’t have time to develop and launch them into production.
  7. 0
    17 December 2025 07: 03
    The An-30 isn't even a transport aircraft. It doesn't even have a hatch.
  8. +7
    17 December 2025 07: 31
    It seems like they were threatening a new one IL-114 adapt it to a transport vehicle, but in my opinion, things are still there...
    1. +1
      17 December 2025 11: 46
      The Il-114 isn't even close. The Il-112 never took off. It's currently being converted into the PD-8. The future Il-212. A good replacement for the An-72.
  9. -2
    17 December 2025 08: 03
    The Il-114 transport version could be considered as a replacement for the An-24/26. The Il-212 is the replacement for the An-72/74, and the Il-214 is the replacement for the An-12. The question is: can the industry handle it?
    1. +4
      17 December 2025 11: 10
      Quote: Mitrich73
      The Il-114 transport version could be considered as a replacement for the An-24/26. The Il-212 is the replacement for the An-72/74, and the Il-214 is the replacement for the An-12. The question is: can the industry handle it?
      We have documentation for aircraft developed and built in Russia, whose production has been discontinued (or developed and tested, but never put into production). That is, they just need to be put into production. We just need to allocate (or build) production capacity and finance it. If only management were willing.
      For example: Be-30, Be-32, Su-80.
      1. +1
        17 December 2025 14: 43
        Be-30, Be-32, Su-80.

        Even without details, these are projects from the LAST MILLENNIUM.
        1. +1
          17 December 2025 16: 54
          Quote: Quzmi4
          Be-30, Be-32, Su-80.

          Even without details, these are projects from the LAST MILLENNIUM.
          The Il-76 is also "from the last millennium," but all the aircraft blueprints were digitized, more advanced engines were installed (though not of a new design), the wing was replaced, the aircraft's interior was changed (including the installation of a "glass cockpit") - and the result is a completely modern aircraft in modern production.
          What's stopping you from doing the same with the planes I listed?
          1. 0
            18 December 2025 10: 22
            The Il-76 was and is in production and has been put into operation.
            The Be-30, Be-32, and Su-80 were only prototypes. It's not a given that they survived.
            To test it further, to refine it, to put it into production means to knowingly doom yourself to falling behind.
            1. +1
              18 December 2025 10: 50
              Quote: Quzmi4
              The Il-76 was and is in production and has been put into operation.
              The Be-30, Be-32, and Su-80 were only prototypes. It's not a given that they survived.
              To test it further, to refine it, to put it into production means to knowingly doom yourself to falling behind.
              Compare two approaches to creating an aircraft to replace the AN-2.
              The old one is the An-14 "Bee" and the An-28 based on it, and
              modern LMS-901 "Baikal".
              In my opinion, whether to refine old developments or build a new aircraft from scratch is a big question as to where the gap will lie.
              1. +1
                18 December 2025 12: 42
                In any case, old developments are not competitors with new ones, and no one except us and, perhaps, the DPRK will need them.
                For the USSR in the 1920s, the Avro-504, and for the post-war years, the B-29/Tu-4 (the term "solid-drawn construction" was coined then) were probably inevitable. But the Il-96 and Tu-204/214 were already declared obsolete by the late 1980s and early 90s...
                In general, poverty is not a virtue sad
                1. 0
                  18 December 2025 19: 28
                  Quote: Quzmi4
                  In any case, old developments are not competitors with new ones, .........

                  Then how can I explain this:

                  The An-28 aircraft was developed in the USSR at the Antonov Design Bureau, but serial production was transferred to Poland at the PZL-Mielec plant, which produced it under the PZL M-28 Skytruck brand.

                  The United States purchases Polish-made PZL M-28 Skytruck aircraft (owned by Lockheed Martin) for allies and partners, including the Nepalese Air Force, as part of aid programs. The American company Sierra Nevada Corporation modifies them to create combat aircraft like the MC-145B Wily Coyote. These versatile aircraft are used for logistics, cargo transportation, and special forces missions, thanks to their ability to operate on short and unpaved runways.

                  That is, they are still in demand today.
                  1. 0
                    12 January 2026 13: 49
                    There is a very specific device there, somewhere strange, like a Tucano attack aircraft.
                    We are talking about MASSIVE passenger trains, and it is unlikely that we will be able to recoup the costs of their development and production without export.
                    1. 0
                      12 January 2026 17: 38
                      Quote: Quzmi4
                      We are talking about MASSIVE passenger trains, and it is unlikely that we will be able to recoup the costs of their development and production without export.
                      Private firms won't operate without profit, which is understandable. The state should be interested in developing this industry and provide appropriate funding.
                      1. 0
                        13 January 2026 14: 23
                        This doesn't eliminate the issue of cost recovery. The state has plenty of areas where it can spend money without any return. Pensions, for example.
  10. 14+
    17 December 2025 08: 09
    And the last question into the void: Rostec, will we have aircraft for the military transport aviation?

    Roman! I have great respect for you as an author of articles like this, but you won't be asked that question even at tomorrow's get-together...
    I won't try to express my "special" opinion, which is no different from that of the majority of Russian patriots. I don't want to delve into the causes and origins of the problems, but I will note just one thing:
    Over a quarter of a century, fewer military transport aircraft (and heavy-lift aircraft in general) have been produced than billionaire oligarchs have been created...
    The An-225 costs approximately $3 billion... The Il-76MD-90A costs approximately $320 million...
    But the primary goal was to create 146 billionaires with a combined wealth (according to Forbes) 580 billion...There are planes, and medicine, and ships, and... greedy, insolent, and cynical faces...
    1. -1
      17 December 2025 10: 01
      Il-76MD-90A - approximately $320 million
      Where do you get such prices? It costs less than 100 million toad skins.
      1. 0
        17 December 2025 10: 27
        Quote: faiver
        - Where do you get such prices?

        On October 4, 2012, the Russian Ministry of Defense ordered 39 Il-76MD-90A aircraft, with delivery scheduled between 2014 and 2020. The total contract value was 139,4 billion rubles, or 3570 million rubles per unit.

        https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4657206.html
        1. +1
          17 December 2025 10: 37
          The price of the contract you indicated also included 156 PS-90A-76 engines

          Read more: https://www.newsko.ru/news/nk-6557952.html
          As of 2021, the price of one Il is 5 billion rubles, or 65 million dollars at an exchange rate of 76 rubles per dollar.
          1. +2
            17 December 2025 10: 44
            I took the first one I saw, but the price was several times higher than the Su-57, which also made me a little nervous...
            I understand there is a mistake somewhere...
            1. 0
              17 December 2025 16: 23
              Quote: ROSS 42
              The price, which is several times higher than the Su-57, also made me a little nervous...
              No surprise: a transport aircraft is at least three times more expensive than a fighter. As the Americans themselves say, one C-130 is worth three F-16s…
              1. 0
                21 January 2026 01: 46
                A basic C-130 costs $75-85 million, with a full-cycle package costing $130-190 million. A basic F-16 Block 70/72 costs $75-100 million, with a full package around $300 million. Where could the Americans themselves have told you about three F-16s for one C-130? Apparently, they were talking about the C-17 Globemaster.
                1. 0
                  21 January 2026 23: 09
                  Quote: karabas-barabas
                  Where could the Americans themselves talk about...
                  You won't believe it - Air War College, I know a couple of graduates...
                  I probably didn't express myself correctly: - operating one Hercy is like driving three Vipers... In operation
          2. 0
            23 December 2025 15: 08
            Quote: faiver
            The price of the contract you indicated also included 156 PS-90A-76 engines

            Read more: https://www.newsko.ru/news/nk-6557952.html
            As of 2021, the price of one Il is 5 billion rubles, or 65 million dollars at an exchange rate of 76 rubles per dollar.


            Are airplanes actually produced without engines?
            40 spare engines for 40 cars is nothing.
  11. 13+
    17 December 2025 08: 20
    Where are the new Russian aircraft for the military transport aviation?
    In the same place where the passengers are...
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  13. 10+
    17 December 2025 08: 52
    The D-18T was produced by Motor Sich at a plant in Zaporizhzhia, which has some problems. Well, yes, there are some problems... laughing
  14. 15+
    17 December 2025 09: 11
    No matter where you look, there's darkness and utter degradation everywhere. And the same old faces on TV.
  15. 12+
    17 December 2025 09: 41
    This is the result of years of talk, instead of work and the appointment of responsible people, and our chief commercial officer's rabid confidence that the market will solve everything. The second factor is the tightly knit team of officials and oligarchs, the so-called "elite," which is essentially comprador and completely un-Russian.
    1. +5
      17 December 2025 13: 13
      It's a miracle they were able to move Il-76 production from Tashkent.
  16. wku
    -2
    17 December 2025 10: 21
    It's certainly not right to stretch the truth, namely, to link the tragedy with the museum's AN-22 to the state of the Russian military aviation. However, it appears that solving the military aviation's problems in the foreseeable future without imports from China is impossible, just as solving the problems in civil aviation without imports from China, Brazil, and perhaps Boeing itself will have to bow out after the end of the Second World War.
  17. +8
    17 December 2025 11: 24
    Considering that the military has finally realized that the Soviet parachute parachute parachute landings of airborne divisions are not just useless, but actually harmful, the first thing we need to understand is what kind of military transport aviation the Russian Armed Forces need. I suspect the generals don't yet know this.
    1. +3
      17 December 2025 13: 04
      It's not a fact at all, considering that BMDs are still being produced.
  18. +1
    17 December 2025 11: 59
    “- the ship’s engineer is 40-year-old Senior Lieutenant Alexey Dorofeev,
    - Aviation equipment engineer - 49-year-old captain Igor Belikov," - how at such an age and with such a rank???
    1. +3
      17 December 2025 16: 26
      Quote: Sergey Valov
      How can you do this at such an age and with such a title???
      Well, if the staffing schedule is like this... it's like a cross-section of a completely different problem.
    2. +2
      17 December 2025 16: 49
      the ship's engineer is 40-year-old Senior Lieutenant Alexey Dorofeev,
      - aviation equipment engineer
      A flight engineer can't rise above a senior lieutenant. At least he's retiring early.
      1. +1
        17 December 2025 22: 57
        Early retirement, but small...
        And what is it like to retire when we are getting old..., received in the second year of service
  19. +2
    17 December 2025 12: 01
    "Il-20. Produced from 1968 to 1976" - I personally saw it on the slipway in 1978.
  20. +8
    17 December 2025 12: 21
    "Where are the new Russian aircraft for the military transport aviation?" A strange question. fool Where are the new Russian planes anyway?! lol request hi
  21. 0
    17 December 2025 13: 12
    First, we need to get rid of the concept of the Airborne Forces (the Il-76 is tailored specifically for it and their equipment), the Y20 is an analogue of our Il-76, but with a modern fuselage for the entire range of equipment.
    If we approach it in the Chinese way, then we can vary the length of the body and the power of the turbojet engine.
    Then, it is necessary to unify the transport aircraft with passenger vehicles in terms of avionics and turbojet engines.
    For example, with the MS21 or Tu214 (if they produce it). Transport aircraft with 2-turbocharged or 4-turbocharged engines.
    And to back up the Il-76 itself, we could produce the Il-96-400T. It could easily handle most of the cargo.
    1. +1
      17 December 2025 13: 32
      There won't be a type of airborne troops in the current reality...no matter how much the Ministry of Defense (armchair generals) would like it.
      1. 0
        17 December 2025 13: 34
        It won't happen, but the Il-76 itself was built according to this concept, the Il-76 PS90 was restarted, and production orders were placed....and there is nothing else.
        1. -2
          17 December 2025 13: 41
          Until we take control of space and protect airfields, like in WWII, from UAVs, both during takeoff and landing... this is just more firewood.
          1. 0
            17 December 2025 13: 42
            And without war, how will we transport it?
  22. +6
    17 December 2025 13: 22
    After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the West's first concern was the collapse of aviation production, especially transport aircraft. Producing domestic aircraft was always considered a country's crowning achievement, and transport aircraft the pinnacle of power. What countries could boast of producing a full line of aircraft? Only two – the USA and the USSR! That's why we were called superpowers, but now we can only produce Ilyushins, and even then, only two per year. So it's all over the place, and on TV we hear nothing but stories about our "great achievements."
    1. +2
      17 December 2025 17: 40
      The USSR has been gone for 35 years now. And the "guarantor" has been at the helm for a quarter of a century. Maybe it's time to stop blaming the West and the "holy" nineties?
    2. 0
      17 December 2025 23: 04
      Is the West concerned?
      Or was there more military aircraft than necessary at the time of the collapse, and they were loaded with everything possible and impossible?
      Where were the new planes supposed to go?
      The same Tu 204/214 were produced until a certain banker purchased them through his leasing company for his airline...
      But then the airline was given away, and the Tu-214...
  23. 0
    17 December 2025 13: 30
    Effective managers simply ruined the crew, and there's no excuse for them! Their egos kept them awake, thinking that the enemies would finish off Anton at the airfield anyway.
  24. 0
    17 December 2025 14: 43
    I don't understand about the D-18T. What are they doing at UZGA now? I mean, what are they preparing the new workshops for?
  25. -1
    17 December 2025 15: 47
    I think there is an Il-76, but it hasn't gone into production yet, and is barely being produced.
    Ruslan production could be resumed, but what resources would be needed to maintain it? Aviastar can't handle the Il-76. And if it were needed, six PS-90s could be installed. Developing a new Ruslan equivalent with a 25-ton engine would take 15 years.
    The most rational option is to buy (or rent) a Y-20 from China. Especially since it was designed for the D-30.
  26. Eug
    0
    17 December 2025 16: 05
    The Chinese based their Y-9 on our An-12, inserting a 2,7-meter section into the fuselage and designing a new wing with a higher-speed profile. They also limited the thrust of the AI-20D engines produced by Motor Sich JSC to 90%. Now it can carry 70% of the NATO standard cargo list. I wonder where they get spare parts for the Zaporizhzhia engines?
    1. 0
      18 December 2025 10: 01
      Quote: Eug
      I wonder where they get spare parts for Zaporizhzhya engines?

      Maybe at the Motor Sich they bought? After all, they did buy it... laughing
      1. Eug
        0
        18 December 2025 11: 02
        Well, we bought it... we paid the money, and the factory... maybe that's why it's still producing the AI-20DV and a whole bunch of spare parts for it... if it works...
  27. +2
    17 December 2025 17: 38
    As long as the country is "led" by an unchangeable guarantor, nothing good can be expected. And as I understand it, he plans to lead for a long time to come.
    1. +4
      17 December 2025 18: 32
      One gets the impression that half a century ago the same aircraft were easier to design and build, but now it’s impossible to even create an analogue of the An-2.
      1. +2
        18 December 2025 01: 59
        It's more like an old man has no one to confide in, surrounded by people who tell him fairy tales and steal everything, and he can't do anything about it. Corruption is corruption, everyone loves money, but no oligarch has ever appointed a kleptomaniac like Shoigu as head of security; some kind of self-preservation instinct must be at work. But here, either they're completely out of touch with reality, or they simply ignore everyone and do whatever they want, as happened under the young tsars.
    2. 0
      20 December 2025 20: 47
      Are you talking about your unbending and irreplaceable Ze?
  28. 0
    17 December 2025 22: 15
    Well, it seems they're currently focusing on the SLON project, which will be larger than the AN-124, and the PD-35 engines are being tuned for it. The latest PD-35 rig tests are encouraging; it finally delivered over 35 tons of thrust.
  29. 0
    18 December 2025 11: 25
    We can no longer produce or even modernize the AN-124.
    There are no engines for them. And it will take a long time to get used to it.
    We need to develop our own technologies.
  30. +2
    18 December 2025 12: 43
    The Il-76MD-90A, currently produced in Ulyanovsk, is an excellent platform for the military transport aviation and airborne forces, a suitable tanker for long-range aviation, a firefighting aircraft, a transport aircraft, an AWACS aircraft—in short, it's multifunctional. It's in serial production; the Ulyanovsk plant isn't exactly a smash hit, but the people are working hard and delivering six or seven aircraft a year. This is a very modern version, with a new wing, new engines, avionics, and so on. There's just one problem: scaling up the production run. Some critics claim that Ulyanovsk's production capacity is limited to 10 aircraft a year, maybe 12 at the most. Let's take a closer look. How many potential orders are in the pipeline?
    VTA -40, 15 delivered, 25 more
    Airborne Forces - ?, but I think it's comparable
    Gas station attendant - 15-20 for sure
    AWACS and fireman - up to 10
    Transport worker - ???, well definitely not less than 30-40
    And there is also export, there are customers, well, another 20-25.
    In total, we need at least 150 aircraft, which is 15 years of continuous production at 10 per year.
    This is brutal…
    But we are lucky that we HAVE it!
    But a lightweight aircraft weighing 10-15 tons is a disaster. The Il-112 is dead, the project with India is dead, and now there's cautious talk of the Il-212 with a PD-8 engine. A new aircraft. Considering how the Il-112 was developed, and what ultimately resulted, the first aircraft won't fly before 2030. It's also unclear whether it will fly; the risks are enormous. That means production won't begin before 2035. And that's a problem for which there's no solution. Meanwhile, the Il-76MD-90 will be in demand for a long time.
  31. 0
    18 December 2025 19: 44
    Russian state media cited a statement from the Russian Ministry of Defense that the An-22 was on a test flight "post-repair" when the crash occurred. This suggests the aircraft was in the process of being returned to service. After repairs…

    What can I say? It's the same old story. Yes, there's a shortage of transport aircraft, yes, every aircraft is worth its weight in gold. But, damn it, it's impossible not to notice metal fatigue, vibration, and flight-hour life. How can this be!? Where's the competent and responsible commission, with its meticulous and thorough culling process!? Yes, they turned a blind eye to GOST standards and other bureaucratic practices in the civilian industrial sector in order to cut costs, God bless them—it's justified. But that doesn't mean this exception can be applied universally, sometimes to the point of outright debauchery. It's inapplicable to aviation in principle, as far as I'm concerned, or am I missing something?
    My sincere condolences to the families and friends of the deceased, memory and eternal wings to the boys.
  32. 0
    18 December 2025 19: 57
    And the last question into the void: Rostec, will we have aircraft for the military transport aviation?

    YouTube's algorithms just showed me a video of Chemezov, the head of Rostec, presenting Yotaphone (old-timers will remember) to then-Prime Minister Medvedev, where he said: Apple is tense.
  33. 0
    18 December 2025 20: 06
    In our time, this is an unforgivable waste of human lives. It's clear that these people will climb into the cockpit and take off even without a strict order; that's their nature. And those who send them on such a hugely risky flight will regret only the personal problems that another disaster will cause them. Usually, those who give the order to "fly at any cost" never get behind the controls.

    Unreasonable risk to people is cynical at any time. To risk someone's life, put yourself in their shoes, feel the responsibility to the point of shivers; thoroughly check all weak points, ensure safety, as if you were putting your own family there, so that your conscience doesn't prick you when you send the crew on their mission.
  34. 0
    18 December 2025 21: 00
    Isn't it time to come up with rescue systems for military transport crews?
  35. +2
    19 December 2025 21: 59
    I've noticed that all our officials make statements based on the Hodja Nasreddin principle. Remember how he promised to teach a donkey to talk in 20 years? He took the money right away, but in 20 years, either the donkey will die, or the padishah will die, or the Hodja himself will die... or the donkey will learn to talk. The main thing now is to take the money. ))) So our officials make promises without worrying about keeping them. Naturally, in 5-10 years, they'll either be dead, or moved to a "completely different position," or imprisoned. ))) ... Or aliens will arrive and do everything for them. Why bother then? The main thing today is to "take the money" and make a statement (maybe they'll notice and promote you). ))) That used to work well. But now... "the internet remembers everything." 🤔 ))))
  36. 0
    21 December 2025 16: 57
    Where, where... we know where! And where are Putin's promises not to raise the retirement age...
  37. 0
    21 December 2025 17: 27
    Where's the new aircraft for the Russian Aerospace Forces' Military Transport Aviation? It's worth asking this question of Mr. A.A. Alikhanov, the Russian Minister of Industry and Trade, who publicly declared on the "medna" that Russia is "ONE OF THE" countries "possessing" the necessary compensation and technology to produce aircraft of all classes, from scratch. Perhaps this statement is simply a reflection of education, as such, without the necessary specifications and in-depth study of the subject matter of the "ministerial bazaar." BUT! There are still no planes... Thank God that the Lord protects at least the combat front-line aviation from the influence of these successful "managers" of the governor's "breeding", otherwise the "assaults" would be throwing KAB-500, "manually", with the help of uncensored "idioms", into the enemy dugouts... And, as for the transport planes, we'll have to wait until Donald Fredovich lifts the "embargo" on deliveries to Russia of the "Boeing C-17" Globemaster IIi, "Boeing C-135" Stratolifter, and other "Boeings"...
  38. +1
    21 December 2025 19: 08
    Quote: Author
    ...will we have aircraft for the military transport aviation?

    what
    Of course, one could ask a question into the smug void (Chemezov), but the fish rots from the head. For example, they warmed up a criminal panda (and why bother?) - where is the government in exile, which scribbles decrees, punishes (with decrees) the Kyiv clique and eagerly awaits democratic elections in the Outskirts.
  39. +1
    22 December 2025 01: 21
    As I understand it, Rostec has the Il-96-400T and designs for the Il-96-500, which removes the size restrictions on transported equipment. Why the Air Force/MoD haven't placed an order is a question.
    The Il-114, for which there are designs for a transport and patrol aircraft, will be launched into production within a year. We'll see what the Ministry of Defense orders and how.
  40. +2
    23 December 2025 06: 56
    Where are the new Russian aircraft for the military transport aviation?

    Do you think that the question WHERE can only be asked about military transport aircraft?
  41. +2
    23 December 2025 20: 56
    The "damned" totalitarian communists in the USSR built dozens of airplanes a year, and of various models, too, while developed democratic Russia can't produce anything.
  42. +1
    23 December 2025 23: 58
    There's nothing left to dream about here. 😒 Transport aviation is dying, and it's dying at an accelerated pace, due to the enormous workload. And unfortunately, there are no prospects whatsoever. 😒 All this is the consequence of the rule of the Tsar and his boyars, who, as in the song, 'All is well, beautiful Marquise, all is well, all is well.' 🤬🤬🤬 And unfortunately, many believe it.😒
  43. 0
    5 March 2026 13: 56
    Where are the new Russian aircraft for the military transport aviation?

    Only ministers of industry and trade and "heroes" quickly become such, but you can't make planes out of speculation.