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Putin and Assad

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Hello, gentlemen, comrades!


I would like to touch on the topic on which, it seems, so much has been said and spoken, but nothing has been put in its “rightful places”. It seems that, as soon as the lazy one did not discuss, he did not “analyze” and did not “ponavyvodil” on this very important question today. I am talking about the situation around Syria, which is very often discussed in the world media from various points of view. For some, “this angle of view” is clearly anti-Syrian, for others, on the contrary, is clearly pro-Russian, since today, everything related to Syria is going along with a strong mountaineering bond with Russia's position on this issue. And outright speculations, outright trolling, outright misunderstanding with misunderstanding together and outright cheating juggling on this topic - RP-E-D-S-T-A-T-O-H-N-O in all communicative means - from talking to an Internet. The most commonly thrown in arguments are speculations of a different kind on the subject of Russia's retreat from its allied obligations towards Syria and, almost completely, surrendering Syria to please Western Hegemon ambitions. Especially often and with hysterically increasing intonations, it begins to fill the space at those moments when the scales of Fortune, in a purely internal conflict, are clearly leaning towards Assad and the Syrian Army. And now, when Assad's troops are planning one of the strongest attacks, which can initiate the complete destruction of all hired gangster rabble in the country, the Western media is increasingly heard hysterical screaming about a certain red line and readiness to deliver to the troops of Assad "a decisive blow from the US ". And, as a rule, speculation on the topic that Putin Assad almost “merges” and that Russia favorably relates to the issue of Assad’s care (only details with Uncle Sam left to discuss - to bargain), and that “As soon as it’s right! "

This is about the topic of betrayal of Russia or loyalty to my allied duty, and I would like to say a little today and put some dots on some of the "I".

In the internet, two articles on the Syrian subject caught my eye. One is called “Putin in the backstage conversation said he would not give up Assad, even if the battle reaches the streets of Moscow,” and the other, which sounds like an addition to it, “By the way about the“ no-fly zone ”, and what about Syria’s air defense?” Even without having titanic analytical abilities, on the basis of these two Internet “notes”, one can make, excluding any other speculation, the conclusion - Putin, and consequently Russia, do not abandon their own! What do you think - guys from the West ?! Should everything be subject to your "cunning" theories and rules of policy? This is when in order to create a precedent for the invasion of a sovereign country and its plunder, it is enough to wave the powder powder from the podium in a bag, passing it off as chemical weapons - are these “internationally recognized rules of foreign policy”? Or, when, borrowing money to hold your electoral company from the ruler of another sovereign country, to provoke a military conflict to destroy this leader, so that there is no one to return the debt, as happened with Gaddafi? Are these the rules and principles of international politics in a European way? Dismiss ... Let us be uncivilized and wild in your eyes, but we can honestly look into the eyes of the enemy, rather than smiling with our slits and hiding a knife behind our back (in a civilized and European way!) For a traitorous blow.

And what did you want and waited for, gentlemen good from the “wild” ruler of Russia, who at one time did not shake off to go alone with a pistol against a crowd of drunk German swells with the words: I am an officer. And I will do what I was taught - I will shoot ... I will leave the last bullet for myself ... For those who are interested in the fact from Putin’s biography, given by me:



Links to the following articles:
http://warfiles.ru/show-30104-putin-v-kuluarnoy-besede-zayavil-chto-ne-sdast-asada.html
http://warfiles.ru/show-30114-kstati-o-bespoletnoy-zone-a-chto-tam-u-sirii-s-pvo.html
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  1. nikkon09
    nikkon09 2 May 2013 20: 00 New
    74
    Act of a real officer. Yes, in my narrow-minded opinion, and as a high-level politician of explosives.
    1. Nevsky
      Nevsky 3 May 2013 08: 33 New
      63
      We would have 1 / 4 Putin in Ukraine crying
      1. Tartary
        Tartary 3 May 2013 08: 55 New
        48
        Quote: Nevsky
        We would have 1 / 4 Putin in Ukraine

        Recently there was an article with comments from the German forum, where one writes - let the Russians give us Putin for a while, we really need a firm and strong politician now ...
        Today we can confidently assert that no matter how cool or popular you are, you can’t overpower a state machine with a swoop in one swoop, in one desperate throw - you need time during which only real comrades-in-arms, and rogues and the sticks will fall off like leeches having drunk themselves ... Then then collect them in handfuls and into the "jar" ...

        Right now, critics will run in and start shouting - they say, what time is he still? So 13 years in power!
        This is where the question arises: - maybe you still need to like Stalin in the 30s of the 20th ????????????
        1. djon3volta
          djon3volta 3 May 2013 09: 11 New
          45
          Quote: Tartary
          Right now, critics will run in and start shouting - they say, what time is he still? So 13 years in power!

          I carefully hinted a couple of times already, saying that Stalin led the country for 30 years, and you want Putin to revive Russia in 10 years from the ruin of the Yeltsin period. China also achieved success in 10 years, China began to carry out reforms in the late 70s and only after 30 years he achieved what we are seeing now. But is it possible to convince some stubborn bulls that only spread the negative?
          here by the way from the last - In terms of GDP, Russia overtook Germany and took 5th place in the world !!! According to the World Bank, in 2012, Russia's GDP at purchasing power parity of currencies exceeded that of Germany. Thus, in terms of the size of its economy, Russia climbed to 5th place in the world. Only the USA, China, India and Japan are ahead of us.

          http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/32801/
        2. patline
          patline 3 May 2013 09: 11 New
          17
          Yes, Vladimir Vladimirovich knows how to communicate with the people, this cannot be taken away from him. Still, domestic and foreign policy should be carried out without looking back to the West - he wouldn’t have a price.
          I am not an opponent of Putin, but not an admirer of him. I try to really evaluate the words and actions of the president.
        3. Heccrbq
          Heccrbq 3 May 2013 09: 39 New
          +3
          T e 37 year we have no tanning?
        4. Arberes
          Arberes 3 May 2013 12: 44 New
          19
          Quote: Tartary
          Right now critics will run and scream

          Well, I came running and I want to speak!
          I am not a big fan of our president and Ed. RUSSIA, but I can honestly admit that the act of V.V. Putin deserves respect. He behaved like a real officer, showing at the same time will and endurance. He also took responsibility for all the consequences that could follow all this, if the situation got out of control, MOSCOW would be paralyzed by lack of will!
          And he managed to turn the tide!
          Strength without will is nothing! Here I sincerely express respect for his personality (not everyone could do that); - Gorbachev would probably stay in the sewer manhole?
          Each person has his strengths and weaknesses, his ups and downs, failures and successes!
          I want to wish all our present and future leaders more correct decisions and fewer mistakes, successes in the right endeavors and victories! They should always remember that the main burden of their miscalculations and failures rests with the PEOPLE!
          Well, the rest, dear friends and colleagues, I remain in my opinion!
          Yes, I want to convey one thought to us all!
          Let's oppose with a sense of respect and tact for each other?
        5. datur
          datur 3 May 2013 19: 28 New
          +6
          Tartarius, we don’t drift you and Putin we support all 100 !!!!! yes
      2. AntonR7
        AntonR7 3 May 2013 09: 00 New
        -19
        And you come back to Russia, you have enough for Putin's eyes)))
      3. domokl
        domokl 3 May 2013 09: 05 New
        39
        Quote: Nevsky
        Act of a Real Officer
        Russian officer at its best ... I respect for the act, for courage and decisiveness
      4. tradizia
        tradizia 3 May 2013 09: 55 New
        +9
        Tired of you, brothers, with your leaders!
        20 years of tearing! Difficult!
      5. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 3 May 2013 10: 17 New
        -28
        "We would have 1/4 of Putin in Ukraine" - bro, take it all! We will send Surkov, Peskov, Chubbais, etc. to help you. Only Ukrainians feel sorry for the Slavs.
        In general, the article is a set of tales about a brave Chekist with a gun, in fact the truth is much nastier and worse. Yuri Shutov tried to write about her - now he sits for life.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSlDuxIbFGo
        Those who want to know the truth, I recommend reading his books.
        Ilyukhin also liked to tell the truth, here is his speech right before the murder:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I77MjtUysWQ
        1. Nick
          Nick 3 May 2013 11: 30 New
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          Quote: S_mirnov
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I77MjtUysWQ

          Quote: S_mirnov
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSlDuxIbFGo

          You still bring anonymous letters in arguments.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 3 May 2013 11: 39 New
            11
            Quote: Nick
            You still bring anonymous letters in arguments.

            It will become ...
          2. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 3 May 2013 11: 46 New
            -21
            In your opinion, all the videos on YouTube were shot in apartments by falsifiers laughing
            By the way, the fairy tale about GDP is also from YouTube! Another story about Amphora? laughing
            1. Tverichanka
              Tverichanka 3 May 2013 23: 36 New
              0
              Quote: S_mirnov
              By the way, the fairy tale about GDP is also from YouTube!

              You must ask the Germans. Citizen. You didn’t know anything about this episode in our country, but the Germans just respected Putin after that incident. But then he was just one of ... and not the leader of the country. But as an officer he behaved flawlessly. Not much has been given. And, mind you, he never acted under someone else’s names or nicknames. So, he is responsible for all the words and deeds. You are completely encrypted here. You grind the language, and he does the thing .And not bad. So we won’t give it anywhere, and if you don’t like it here, you can move it. I don’t think that the forum there will be a great cry.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 3 May 2013 12: 39 New
          16
          Quote: S_mirnov
          "We would have 1/4 of Putin in Ukraine" - bro, take it all! M

          Yes, and in his place Mr. S mirnov will put the "patriot" Prokhorov. Smirnov, do you seriously believe that take Putin away and there will be order in the country? If so you are a very naive person.
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 3 May 2013 13: 15 New
            -10
            1. Prokhorov is a product of the Yeltsin-Putin era, I do not see the difference between Prokhorov and Putin (unless one of them is officially rich).
            2. Putin is a collective image of the cogal governing our country - a showcase. Naturally, changing the GDP by another puppet does not solve anything.
            But praising this puppet and composing fairy tales about him as a security officer with a Mauser amuses me! laughing
            1. Tverichanka
              Tverichanka 3 May 2013 23: 38 New
              0
              Quote: S_mirnov
              auzer - makes me laugh!

              Do not describe.
            2. Heccrbq
              Heccrbq 4 May 2013 00: 16 New
              +1
              It's a shame that Karaulov sang this tale, I trusted his materials.
          2. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 3 May 2013 13: 40 New
            -1
            But in fact, who would you propose to send from our country, only not to Ukraine (sorry for the Ukrainians), but for example to Chechnya to Kadyrov as subsidies laughing
            Here is my list:
            GDP, Medvedev, the State Duma in its entirety, Zhirik, Zyuganov, Oligarchs are all on the list (without money and property), Journalists and TV presenters - Gordon, Miha Leontyev, etc., Pseudo-opposition, Navalny, Ksenia Sobchak and the entire organizing committee of Bolotnaya Square, Zurab Tseretelli.
            Go ahead, feel free!
            1. skeptic
              skeptic 3 May 2013 16: 02 New
              +2
              Quote: S_mirnov
              But in fact, whom would you propose to send from our country, only not to Ukraine (sorry for the Ukrainians), but for example to Chechnya to Kadyrov as subsidies laughing
              Here is my list:
              GDP, Medvedev, the State Duma in its entirety, Zhirik, Zyuganov, Oligarchs are all on the list (without money and property), Journalists and TV presenters - Gordon, Miha Leontyev, etc., Pseudo-opposition, Navalny, Ksenia Sobchak and the entire organizing committee of Bolotnaya Square, Zurab Tseretelli.
              Go ahead, feel free!


              And in the presidency, the super-democrat toad (forgot his name). Oh, she’s definitely the real APP. And in some ways it resembles you in a hatred of power. Although perhaps she is cooler - she hates any Russian government, like Russia itself.
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 3 May 2013 16: 43 New
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                If you are talking about a fat woman with glasses, then she would also have sent her. Let rights swing in Chechnya!
                And yet, I do not have hatred for power, I have hatred for thieves in power, because they are destroying my Homeland and my People!
        3. Good Ukraine
          Good Ukraine 4 May 2013 00: 06 New
          +1
          hi
          Quote: S_mirnov
          "We would have 1/4 of Putin in Ukraine" - bro, take it all! We will send Surkov, Peskov, Chubbais, etc. to help you. Only Ukrainians feel sorry for the Slavs.


          You can not regret it. We’ll even take Chubais to boot. GDP is worth it.
          And we will give you all our shoblu. - starting from Kravchuk with Kui and ending with the recruitment of the current "thieves."
          It’s interesting, and who do you think today in the world, as a politician and head of state, is better than Putin? What is the last name of the foreign leader. As well as the Russian applicant?
          For some reason I think that you will call Novodvorskaya. laughing
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 4 May 2013 17: 10 New
            +1
            "as a politician and head of state, better than Putin"
            Lukashenko, Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro .. In Russia, too, there are, only they are killed as soon as they become popular, Lev Rokhlin, Ilyukhin.
        4. Gray-haired
          Gray-haired 4 May 2013 00: 13 New
          0
          Ebony, where did you get to the site? Spray under the bench provocateur.
      6. RUSSIA 2013
        RUSSIA 2013 3 May 2013 10: 27 New
        17
        full respect, act of a real hero.
      7. illarion
        illarion 3 May 2013 11: 01 New
        +8
        In the 90s, we shouted: “We want Thatcher for president, Clinton, who is Bill, someone else.” How times change.
      8. Corsair
        Corsair 3 May 2013 12: 19 New
        16
        Quote: Nevsky
        We would have 1 / 4 Putin in Ukraine crying

        Allow, allow, and you, we must understand in return, here IT?
    2. Trailer
      Trailer 3 May 2013 09: 15 New
      +5
      I would argue. For in the last couple of weeks I have only seen the dock. NTV film about terrorists, not a single report from Popova from Syria. And, yes, even ours forbade our own planes to fly over Syria. Are we renting - I don’t know?
    3. Joker
      Joker 3 May 2013 09: 15 New
      -11
      I’m wondering what has changed in the life of a simple citizen with the advent of Putin? This "real officer" covers Taburetkin and the red rat, he sold part of the state. a block of shares in oil production of a foreign company BP, drove us forcibly into the WTO, destroyed education. How many large factories have been built in 13 years? Maybe we started to produce our own electronics? Maybe salaries rose to the European level? Prices for everything are rising every month, ranging from food to real estate, banks tear wild interest, state. the bank does not belong to us. So what has changed then? Yes, absolutely nothing, we all are waiting for mana from heaven.
      1. Anti
        Anti 3 May 2013 09: 52 New
        +9
        Quote: Joker
        How many large factories have been built in 13 years


        look here and my weighty minus wink
        http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/?id=106
        1. Joker
          Joker 3 May 2013 10: 06 New
          14
          look here and my weighty minus

          AND? Of all that there is a state built a penny. Let's say they built a plywood factory, then what? They sold all products to private stores, which charged a price three times higher, and it made it easier for me to start living, or what? Where are state-owned plants and factories in the USSR? So many of these capitalists have bred for us now that now they themselves regulate prices for everything, it is because of them that the prices for everything per annum on 20 rise, and instead of the established 6, the state can do nothing, as it will compete and bring down the price for them nothing, because the state does not build factories. In the USSR they built, there was food processing and clothing, that is why it was possible once a year on Stalin's birthday to lower prices for everything by 2%, now we have private owners in the housing and communal services and every day there are more and more of them, only prices are not rising at 6% per year, and the state can only be silent in a rag because this is capitalism. So minus your absolutely not deserved. These factories of yours are built by those who stole money during the collapse, because an honest citizen is now not like a factory, a small store will not be able to open, do you propose to rejoice for them for me?
          1. Anti
            Anti 3 May 2013 10: 26 New
            +6
            You used a forbidden method! Unfortunately, the USSR is no more, maybe in the future ...!
            I think that GDP is moving in this direction. Building is harder than breaking, it takes time.
            +
            1. Joker
              Joker 3 May 2013 10: 46 New
              19
              Oleg, for too long he has been doing everything. And as for the prohibited reception, well, you have to compare it with the best, I think that the economic model of the USSR was the best in the world.
              1. Nick
                Nick 3 May 2013 11: 46 New
                +6
                Quote: Joker
                Oleg, for too long he has been doing everything.

                The concepts are long, fast, slow, too vague ... By what criterion do you assess the work of GDP as "too long"? In comparison with what?
                Quote: Joker
                I believe that the economic model of the USSR was the best in the world.

                In the USSR, at different times, there were several different models of the economy. What are you talking about?
              2. Kalita
                Kalita 3 May 2013 13: 08 New
                +3
                “I believe that the economic model of the USSR was the best in the world” —And did you live under the USSR? Did you get sausage, meat, butter, vodka in kilometer-long queues?
                Did you feel shame for the leaders of your country who couldn’t connect the two words in Russian correctly? Did you go to the factory shift by 6.30 a.m. for a penny wage? Putin didn’t please you, you see. So can you go to North Korea, eh?
                1. Gluxar_
                  Gluxar_ 3 May 2013 17: 24 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Kalita
                  “I believe that the economic model of the USSR was the best in the world” —And did you live under the USSR? Did you get sausage, meat, butter, vodka in kilometer-long lines? Did you feel shame for the leaders of your country who couldn’t connect the two words in Russian correctly? Did you go to the factory shift by 6.30 a.m. for a penny wage? Putin didn’t please you, you see. So can you go to North Korea, eh?

                  I agree. Man is clearly either a provocateur or a near mind. He writes some nonsense, comparing different states according to different criteria. It’s good that in the USSR, sausage cost 3,2, ice cream 7 kopecks, communal 3 rubles, etc. But this same sausage for 3,2 per month could not be seen. Today, if you’re not completely diby, you can even get a warehouse and have your own 25tr, and you eat sausages more than in the USSR at 3.2 per kg. And what about innovators in the USSR? Or entrepreneurs? You make 3 norms, you get + 20% of the salary. Meaning to work hard? And the horde of loafers who didn’t do half the norm, but got the same as an editorial or 20% less? Such a levelovlovka eventually destroyed the USSR, it’s bad that crooks took advantage of the collapse of that system.
              3. Gluxar_
                Gluxar_ 3 May 2013 17: 18 New
                +1
                Quote: Joker
                Oleg, for too long he has been doing everything. And as for the prohibited reception, well, you have to compare it with the best, I think that the economic model of the USSR was the best in the world.

                Why did she fail? And why was access to Kamim blessings through balloons or birch checks? What kind of cametes did you fall from? The USSR was good and its collapse is a tragedy, but it was not viable in modern realities.
          2. djon3volta
            djon3volta 3 May 2013 11: 01 New
            +7
            Quote: Joker
            because an honest citizen is now not like a factory, a small shop will not be able to open

            so who will really work in the country if everyone opens stores and engages in resale or sale? Let's all become businessmen, stop sowing bread and build houses, and open stores.
            not everyone wants to be traders, there are people who like to grind pieces of iron and drive a tractor, here on May 1, Putin handed them a HERO LABOR star!
            1. Joker
              Joker 3 May 2013 11: 25 New
              13
              grind the glands and drive the tractor

              I like to drive a tractor and I am an agronomist by training, but with the salary of an agronomist I can’t even feed myself, not like a family.
              so who will really work in the country if everyone opens stores and engages in resale or sale?

              How can one now legally make money to live as a person, and not exist from paycheck to paycheck? Scientists now receive not much, again experience is needed, for years to 40 you will earn more or less sane money, are there any other options? Now only shops can earn money, because the middle class in Russia is practically absent, the owners of the stores occupy this niche, well, after 35-40 years, people get there and then 20 percent, the rest are either poor or rich. The poor are ordinary citizens, and the rich are either very cunning people or thieves.
              1. Gluxar_
                Gluxar_ 3 May 2013 17: 32 New
                +2
                Quote: Joker
                I like to drive a tractor and I am an agronomist by training, but with the salary of an agronomist I can’t even feed myself, not like a family.

                What salary do you need? Agromon from 25tr, plus you can take something else in the load and it will be already normal. It all depends on the development of this and an advantage, in contrast to leveling.
                Quote: Joker
                How can one now legally make money to live as a person, and not exist from paycheck to paycheck?

                Well, for example, you can go to work, including production. If you are an .a specialist, and not just “statewide,” then you can earn from 30 as a mechanic. This is if in the province. If you think that you are hardworking and talented, then create your own business in any industry where you want. Just do not wait for manna from heaven and handouts from someone else, but work and you will have happiness. Another thing is that there is a class of people who do not know how to do nichrome and do not want to. And all just complain and envy those who do something. These are the ones who dream of "USSR 2.0" in order to stick to the hard workers as a leech and receive "total income". but this is called parasitism.
                1. Tverichanka
                  Tverichanka 3 May 2013 23: 58 New
                  -3
                  Quote: Gluxar_
                  complain and envy

                  Catch a plus from me. I lived and worked at that time. You didn’t exaggerate a single gram. Everything was SO.
              2. Tverichanka
                Tverichanka 3 May 2013 23: 55 New
                -3
                Quote: Joker
                e exist from paycheck to paycheck?

                I’ll oppose you, just let’s do it without hysteria. It was mainly adults who gathered here, many lived in the USSR, but didn’t find it a corner .... So, do you think that I could live normally with a salary of 65 rubles after graduating from a medical school, left alone with a 10-month-old son? Where did you get children's tights, panties, a jacket? What could be treated effectively? Were there any good medicines? Could a doctor get an apartment from the state? And if you can, then how much? And where to live 20 -25 years? .... This is so offhand, but the picture reflects. Who really lived, remember how to ride or to the holidays in Moscow for sausages and mayonnaise, how much they listened to from the Muscovites humiliating ... Don’t think of denying that it was so.
          3. Gluxar_
            Gluxar_ 3 May 2013 17: 14 New
            +3
            Quote: Joker
            And?

            And look what is being built and produced in Russia.
            Quote: Joker
            Of all that there is a state built a penny. Let's say they built a plywood factory, then what? They sold all products to private stores, which charged a price three times higher, and it made it easier for me to start living, or what? Where are state-owned plants and factories in the USSR?

            Are you completely sick on your head? State factories and factories ravaged the USSR, which led to the death and extinction of about 15 million Russian people. The state regulates the economy. You clearly do not understand the essence of economic processes. The state receives taxes from each private trader without investing a dime. In the case of state property, it is necessary to subsidize some industries from others. If state control over key industries is somehow justified, then private owners can also produce furniture from plywood or plywood itself. And you including.

            You get the minus deservedly.
        2. djon3volta
          djon3volta 3 May 2013 10: 55 New
          -1
          Quote: Anti
          http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/?id=106

          for such as a joker, this is a terrible site. such as a joker, they need factories in every city, each and every one !!! in every city you need a factory - for making socks, dishes, tanks, sausages, plywood, radio tape recorders, gordin, pipes , brushes, bulbs, demid
          roll, blankets, picture tubes, cottage cheese, etc. all these factories should be located in every city, in each without exception! according to the logic of the joker, it should be like this laughing
          1. Anti
            Anti 3 May 2013 11: 07 New
            +4
            [quote] [quote = djon3volta] these plants should be located in every city, in each without exception! according to the logic of the joker it should be like this [/ quote] [/ quote]

            Why not? Stop holding the economies of other countries, we ourselves can do no worse.

            [quote] [quote = djon3volta] for the manufacture of socks, dishes, tanks, sausages, plywood, magnet [

            / Quote]

            How did all this stop producing, what happened? Everyone knows.
            1. Gluxar_
              Gluxar_ 3 May 2013 17: 41 New
              +4
              Quote: Anti
              Why not? Stop holding the economies of other countries, we ourselves can do no worse.

              Because there are objective competitive advantages, and there is specialization. For example, it’s cheaper to build one sock factory and provide the whole country. because it makes no difference to deliver finished socks, or materials for their production, from point A to B. In addition, climatic features, changing seasonal demand, the availability of infrastructure and much much more.
              It is very difficult for Russia to compete even with Georgia in such an industry as the production of citrus fruits, but in the nuclear energy sector we are in first place. Making great efforts to capture the citrus market. Pumping resources out of Atomstroy is simply stupid. The same is true for other industries. This does not mean that you need to leave everything as it is. Import substitution is needed and it is happening, you just need to keep a balance and not spend resources on unprofitable production which will never bring profit, but will only be subsidized from the budget.
              Quote: Anti
              How did all this stop producing, what happened? Everyone knows.

              Do not stop producing. And now we are restoring the lost positions. It's just that at old enterprises labor productivity is lower than that of the Chinese by 5-8 times, as a result, the cost of similar products varies significantly. Will you buy our simplest linen socks at 250 rubles per pair, when the Chinese cost 20p?
              1. Anti
                Anti 4 May 2013 00: 58 New
                -3
                Quote: Gluxar_
                Do not stop producing. And now we are restoring the lost positions.


                I'm for the 90s. You're right.

                Quote: Gluxar_
                Will you buy our simplest linen socks at 250 rubles per pair, when the Chinese cost 20p?

                If the home budget allows, then I will, since the quality is incomparably better than the Chinese, low-quality ones. Yes, and you can save.
          2. Joker
            Joker 3 May 2013 11: 17 New
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            For people like the Joker, LARGE STATE FACTORIES AND FACTORIES are needed in not every city, there must be such a quantity that the products produced are sufficient to satisfy the demand of Russian citizens and state stores are needed in every city that would sell these products. There is full control over the price at all stages, they released a loaf of bread at the state plant — the cost of 5 rubles, then to the state store with all expenses for salaries, rent and other costs of 7 rubles + income to the state and for modernization and repair — the price of 12-15 rubles everything, and not like private traders, the factory made a loaf of bread price 5 rubles + all costs and benefits 10 rubles, then a private store-expenses + benefits 20 rubles, did you get the point? A clothing store in the USSR State Plant produced, the cost of shirts 300 p. -Next state store-all costs + profit 500 r. What do we have now? China made a shirt - the cost of 150 r. - Russian huckster bought, the price in the store 1000 r. and a line with two states will affect this price as much as he wants, as much as a huckster and wind up. And in its factories, the state will be able to regulate the price taking into account inflation, and since the state itself produces and sells, and on a huge scale throughout the country, prices will generally be cheap and taxes should not be collected to collect cheap ones that hucksters evade. It is necessary to rearm the army, increase prices for everything instead of 6% by 10%, warning citizens, and take extra profit for rearmament, without regard to the cost of a barrel of oil. That's why I follow the construction of state-owned factories, but what do private traders do to me do not give a damn, in the USA all private traders do what? 17 trillion government debt and wild bias in citizens' incomes. And if the whole business is state-owned, with the exception of some companies that themselves also produce and sell, there will be no bias in earnings, everyone will work honestly, and not think about how to deceive and earn money with the help of the barybry business. Why study if you can live by deceit? There will be another incentive to study better and at the state. it’s better to work for a company than for the uncle of a private trader who writes 1000 rubles to you, so that you pay less taxes and then you get a penny pension.
            1. Filin
              Filin 3 May 2013 16: 57 New
              +5
              Joker


              I do not agree with you a little.
              State-owned factories breed officials like CLASS. These are people who do not care about the result, they care about the turbulent process itself or the appearance of the turbulent process. The result can be attributed, drawn, dusted, and so on. Again, low motivation among engineers, workers and other personnel. What the USSR suffered by the way - this is the lack of the very possibility of "jumping out" of the salary. One-time prizes were awarded to my grandfather for inventions and innovations in production and certificates were awarded. This is absurd.
              I think that it is necessary to divide the plants into categories:
              - Category A - these are factories of strategic and defense importance. They must be 100% state owned.
              - category B - plants providing plants of category A, with raw materials or working with them in another form. Must belong to the state by 60-70%.
              - Category B - plants and factories providing citizens of the country with essential goods, as well as products. I consider state intervention in the field of ownership of these enterprises to be unreasonable. It is possible to regulate pricing at the level of legislative acts. For example, you can adjust the added value, margin on the final product, margin in the distribution network. Determine in 10-15% and moreover, severely fine for non-performance.
              Everything can be solved with the right approach and subject to the DESIRE to resolve these issues. And while the country is sawn between the oligarchy, these solutions will never find such a solution.
              1. atalef
                atalef 3 May 2013 21: 08 New
                -1
                Quote: FILIN
                I think that it is necessary to divide the plants into categories:
                - Category A - these are factories of strategic and defense importance. They must be 100% state owned.
                - category B - plants providing plants of category A, with raw materials or working with them in another form. Must belong to the state by 60-70%.
                - Category B - plants and factories providing citizens of the country with essential goods, as well as products. I consider state intervention in the field of ownership of these enterprises to be unreasonable. It is possible to regulate pricing at the level of legislative acts. For example, you can adjust the added value, margin on the final product, margin in the distribution network. Determine in 10-15% and moreover, severely fine for non-performance.

                Interestingly take the decaying West and the United States. Everything there is private and somehow they make weapons (not at all bad) and the people are not starving.
                Why does this not work in a single country? Maybe the state just does not allow people to work calmly? Do you want a state that does not work for others, to return everything? And from this it will become different?
                Let people work calmly, do not spread rot them with different verticals, horizontals and state monopolies - and everything will be fine. I somehow lived a lot in the USSR, everything was state-I didn’t notice ABUNDANCE. Why is something supposed to change now?
                1. Filin
                  Filin 6 May 2013 01: 08 New
                  0
                  atalef

                  Interestingly take the decaying West and the United States. Everything there is private and somehow they make weapons (not at all bad) and the people are not starving.


                  And the price of the final product from a private military corporation and the state what is the output ??? This is the first.
                  Secondly, I do not want my son to fight on the other side of the world just because the military corporation has fallen in price and urgently needs a military order for their products. The military lobby in the United States is one of the factors of instability on the planet, which in the end will come back to him by himself.
                  Thirdly, when I apply for a bank card, I don’t want citizens to receive a 50% discount on rifles with a telescopic sight as a bonus. Because military corporations need an increase in sales.

                  Putting arms production in private hands would be the biggest mistake in this country.
                  You can create drones in private, you can conduct separate programs, but create corporations, monsters that produce from a kitchen knife to spaceships ....
              2. Ops911
                Ops911 3 May 2013 23: 48 New
                +1
                The economic model was changed, but for some reason there was no less official. This class is not in a hurry to work for the development of Russia. They have no fear, as in the USSR, and therefore it is remembered as before (the theft of state property was almost treason). In general, the bad is quickly forgotten, as opposed to the good.
            2. Gluxar_
              Gluxar_ 3 May 2013 17: 58 New
              +1
              Quote: Joker
              we need state STORES in every city that would sell these products. There is complete control over the price at all stages, they released a loaf of bread at the state plant, the cost of 5 rubles, then to the state store with all expenses for salaries, rents and other costs 7 rubles + income to the state and for modernization and repair, the price is 12-15 rubles everything, and not like private traders, the plant made a loaf of bread price of 5 rubles + all costs and benefits of 10 rubles, then a private store-expenses + benefit of 20 rubles, did you get the point?

              How many premises are needed to satisfy the needs of “convenience stores”? How many hardware managers are needed to keep track of this? What to do with unsold products? Who covers all the costs? What are the mechanisms to stimulate efficiency and reduce costs? Who is responsible for the losses? What is the cost of creating such a system? Where are the resources from the state. What quality improvement tools? How to fight corruption and theft? How to form a marketing policy and expand the range?

              It happened before. And at the exit there are empty counters and boorish sellers. Loaders who do not care how they handle products and rotting warehouses, and all losses are covered by the state.
              Quote: Joker
              A clothing store in the USSR State Plant produced, the cost of a shirt is 300 rubles. -Next state store-all costs + profit 500 r. What do we have now? China made a shirt, the cost of 150 r. - Russian huckster bought, the price in the store is 1000 r. and a line with two states will affect this price as much as he wants, as much a huckster and wind up

              The state can produce 3 types of work robes and 2 colors of shirts. The cost of 500 rubles. The state has invested in a factory and a network of stores, it contains a control and management apparatus, an anti-corruption department and a marketing department, a design development agency, etc. as a result, the prime cost is no longer 500 but 1500 rubles. Chinese shirt crossed the border. Paid a fee. Private traders bought it and paid VAT and sales taxes. All participants in the process provide themselves and pay taxes to the state, the state does not spend resources on the organization of the entire production and trade chain, not a ruble, but spends money on defense education and social institutions. Here is such a real picture.
              Quote: Joker
              in the USA, all private traders do what? 17 trillion government debt and wild bias in citizens' incomes.

              So in your opinion it’s bad everywhere ... is it good only in your nonsense
              Quote: Joker
              And if the whole business is state-owned, with the exception of some companies that themselves also produce and sell, there will be no bias in earnings, everyone will honestly work

              What planet are you from?
              1. Tverichanka
                Tverichanka 4 May 2013 00: 16 New
                -1
                Quote: Gluxar_
                What planet are you from?

                You are smart! They wrote everything correctly. But here, such arguments, alas, are of no interest to anyone. No matter what and whoever says, the answer is one: “We demand that everything be! It was cheap, plentiful and most importantly state!” The organ in my head plays such a song as Saltykov-Shchedrin. And somehow you know, they forget that everything state existed for only 70 years, and the rest of the time in Russia was private property. And they fed half the world with their bread and butter. And the factories were private and factories. And nothing lived, developed. Then, with the notorious 1913, the digital was constantly compared by the release of anything.
          3. Tatanka Yotanka
            Tatanka Yotanka 3 May 2013 12: 09 New
            +7
            Quote: djon3volta
            according to the logic of the joker, it should be like this

            it was so, a settlement or town always formed around some kind of production, otherwise what the population would be busy with. It’s called a city-forming enterprise, if it closes, the settlement degrades, who richer leaves, seek jobs in other places, condemning families to wait and austerity, someone gets drunk
            1. Gluxar_
              Gluxar_ 3 May 2013 17: 59 New
              +2
              Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
              it was so, a settlement or town always formed around some kind of production, otherwise what the population would be busy with. It’s called a city-forming enterprise, if it closes, the settlement degrades, who richer leaves, seek jobs in other places, condemning families to wait and austerity, someone gets drunk

              It was also in the Middle Ages, called the subsistence economy.
            2. Tverichanka
              Tverichanka 4 May 2013 00: 23 New
              -2
              Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
              otherwise than what the population would be busy with.

              And what do you think is right to build a plant for the sake of employment? Not for the sake of producing competitive products, not for profit, but just people to take something? And then no one needs all the manufactured products and rots in warehouses, and then again, some people are busy, right? Oh, don’t, we all went through this. And what did we get to? The technology lag? And how many raw materials were ruined? Did you definitely live under "developed socialism"?
          4. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 3 May 2013 12: 44 New
            +4
            Quote: djon3volta
            such as the joker, they need factories in every city

            And what's wrong with that if people have jobs. What is wrong with the production?
            Quote: djon3volta
            socks, dishes, tanks, sausages, plywood, radio, gordin, pipes, brushes, bulbs, demid

            roll, blankets, picture tubes, cottage cheese

            Joni, you forgot about cowards wink
            1. Tverichanka
              Tverichanka 4 May 2013 00: 27 New
              -2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              you forgot about cowards

              Alexander, answer honestly, if you lived in Soviet times, always wore shoes of the Kimra factory "Red Star"? Or were you looking for Czech, Finnish? Furniture, again, which manufacturers preferred? Didn’t sign up for the Romanian? No? Then I won’t believe that we lived at that time ....
        3. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 3 May 2013 12: 41 New
          +8
          Quote: Anti
          look here and my weighty minus

          Weighty laughing Well, fluff, in principle, also has weight laughing
          1. Anti
            Anti 4 May 2013 00: 30 New
            -2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Weighty laughing Well, a feather, in principle, also has weight


            Well, Mr. yes you laughing laughing Repent before it's too late, take communion laughing
      2. djon3volta
        djon3volta 3 May 2013 09: 57 New
        -7
        Quote: Joker
        So what has changed? Yes, absolutely nothing

        I recognized you, it's you on the video!




        Recent studies by sociologists: Absolute poverty has disappeared in Russia! There were 1,25% of people living on $ 2000 per day (poor according to the UN classification) in 1, now it is 0,05%. The poor according to the American classification in 2000 were 2/3 of Russians, now 25% (in the USA - 15%). From 3,5 to 1,5 times the difference between the owners of personal computers between the poor and wealthy Russians has decreased. On expensive refrigerators
        know-frost (multi-chamber and self-freezing) the difference now is also 1,5 times. Owners of plasma TVs increased from 14 to 26% among “poor” Russians. We take the 2nd place in the world in the number of pets. We feed animals 85% with specialized feeds, which takes $ 625 a year for their food alone. We have cats per capita in the United States, but we spend more on them than in the United States. Undoubtedly, this was the best decade in the history of Russia. But Putin
        created a very inflexible mode.
        1. Joker
          Joker 3 May 2013 10: 38 New
          11
          Firstly, I don’t need to poke and shove my own sight in one place, otherwise I'll show you in whom I recognized you. And secondly, only fools believe in the research of sociologists, I’m now concocting a study on you that all of Russia goes to Bentley, but that’s why she won’t go to them.
          From 3,5 to 1,5 times the difference between the owners of personal computers between the poor and wealthy Russians has decreased.
          Of course, you can still give an account of those who own mobile phones, only rich people used to go with 10 years ago, and now everything, maybe the thing is that it all became many times cheaper, and not that the people became richer? Not? don't you know that technology is getting cheaper over time? Can food prices be comparable? Let’s compare how much the average family spent 5 food years ago on the same products now? Compare gas prices?
          We feed animals on 85% with specialized feed, which takes 625 $ per year only for their food.

          CSO, 15 000 p. per year oh-oh-oh how much is this, but it is spent more, because in the USA the same food is 2 times cheaper if that.
          On expensive refrigerators
          know-frost (multi-chamber and self-freezing) the difference now is also 1,5 times

          Are you kidding me? This know-how in 2000 was 2 times more expensive than now because of new technologies, now it is already obsolete technologies and they cost several times cheaper. in 2000, the chip cost 10 rubles, the same chip in 2010 will cost 5 rubles, because there are already modern products.
          1. Kaa
            Kaa 3 May 2013 11: 38 New
            11
            Quote: Joker
            And secondly, only fools believe in the research of sociologists,

            Are there really so many fools in the USA? Or ... I can not believe belay Really Abamku recruited GDP, and now it is ruining the USA according to its recipes ?! HIGH EXPLORATION PILOT! good
            "The number of Americans living below the poverty line seems to have grown in 2011 to the maximum since the 1960s due to the general weakness of the economy and the declining government support for these segments of the population, economists predict, Interfax reports.
            According to the consensus forecast of dozens of economists and research institutes surveyed by the Associated Press (AP), The official poverty rate rose from 15,1% in 2010 to 15,7% in 2011. Few expect more moderate growth, while an increase of only 0,1 percentage points will mean that it will equal the level of 1983, which has been the highest since 1965. The 2010 level was the highest in 17 years, then over 46 million Americans lived below the poverty line. Official data takes into account only income in cash, not taking into account either a possible increase in the cost of housing and other real estate property, nor food allowances or tax incentives that increased substantially under President Barack Obama. If these benefits were not available, then in 2010 the number of Americans who actually live below the poverty line would be 9 million more than the official level... http://www.ukrrudprom.ua/news/Kolichestvo_bednih_v_SSHA_viroslo_do_poluvekovogo_
            maksimuma.html
            The number of poor in the United States has reached almost 50 million people. http://prodengi.kz/lenta/kolichestvo_bednyh_v_ssha_dostiglo_pochti_50_millionov_
            chelovek /
            According to official statistics, in the United States more than 3 million people do not have a roof over their heads. Such tent camps are in almost every state. A significant part of their population is alcoholics, drug addicts, and mentally ill. People in need of special help. But victims of financial turmoil in recent years are becoming more. The federal government spends 62 thousand a year for every poor family. But if they gave this money directly, then the poor would not be in this country.
            http://planeta.moy.su/blog/v_ssha_rastet_chislo_lagerej_dlja_bednykh/2013-03-27-
            47278
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 3 May 2013 12: 55 New
              +8
              Quote: Kaa
              "The number of Americans living below the poverty line seems to have risen in the 2011 year to the maximum since the 1960 years because of the general weakness of the economy and the declining government support for these segments of the population

              Was in England on the eve of last year's X-Mas.
              And he noted with surprise that, at least outwardly, by clothing, by purchasing power, by “trembling hands” counting pence and pounds at cash registers in shops and supermarkets, the average Englishman (Englishwoman) does not differ from the Russians for the better, more " rich side.
              hi
            2. Tverichanka
              Tverichanka 4 May 2013 00: 36 New
              -1
              Quote: Kaa
              Are there so many fools

              Not only in the USA? ... And your comments are just a song, I read with pleasure.
        2. Nitup
          Nitup 3 May 2013 11: 03 New
          0
          Thank you for the video. I haven’t laughed like that for a long time.
        3. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 3 May 2013 12: 46 New
          +8
          Quote: djon3volta

          I recognized you, it's you on the video!

          John, it's you on my underpants wassat
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        5. atalef
          atalef 3 May 2013 21: 14 New
          +3
          Quote: djon3volta
          We feed animals 85% with specialized feeds, which takes $ 625 a year for their food alone

          Travolta, you want to say that the average family with a pet spends 60 bucks a month on his food - 1800 rubles? I did not know that the grandmothers holding on the lap of striped Murzik are so wealthy. laughing
          Travolta, I like you. I read your comments as a song. (And always).
          good
          so simple for information, I have a cattery for breeding cats (Canadian sphynx) at my closest relative, such a not cheap breed, finicky, special food (because cats are bald) so they don’t get 60 bucks a month ( cat tail laughing ) for food.
          Of course, if piglets are considered a pet, then of course. laughing
      3. Sirocco
        Sirocco 3 May 2013 10: 16 New
        16
        You can scream as much as you like and pour mud over the GDP. In order to understand what he did for the people of Russia, it is enough to remember how we lived in the 90s, and how now. In the 90s, many could dream, and with envy look at new cars, apartments, and other utensils. Now almost every family has a car that has hands and a head, acquires housing, or builds. You Oleg felt the difference?
        Suppose tomorrow there would be no Putin in Russia, who else could do the same in the last 12-13 years? Look at the American presidential candidates, at least one of them has done as much for America as Putin did for Russia? They are all good administrators and nothing more, he is an excellent strategist. For these 12 years, he has so lifted and renewed the country that for some peoples his word means more than the word of his own president. Today, all the countries of the former union look towards Russia, every single one! Which of the current and past politicians after 12 years in the highest echelons of power received more than 60% of the support in the vote? Is this what Western journalists think of?
        1. Joker
          Joker 3 May 2013 10: 44 New
          +2
          You Oleg felt the difference?

          Yes and no. First, yes, but now it feels like we are going downhill.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 3 May 2013 11: 20 New
            +9
            Quote: Joker
            and now it feels like we're going downhill.

            It is, of course, great to conduct permanent criticism of the country's leadership, and GDP personally. There are many negative aspects in our country. But it is necessary to evaluate the current situation according to the tendency of change - for the better, or for the worse. And here OUR CRITERIA differs - judging by the sausage, the number of factories built, the per capita income of the population, etc. etc.
            I am not eager to kiss the GDP, but I am aware that I would not change my work with him, because I simply could not do it the way I HAVE.
            And therefore I do not cry with grief that the country is "falling down a slope" ...
            hi
            1. Joker
              Joker 3 May 2013 11: 37 New
              +5
              And I don’t cry, I live quite wonderful for myself, only here are the roles of Putin and the state in my welfare 0.0
              Here OUR CRITERIA is different - judging by the sausage, the number of factories built, the average per capita income of the population, etc. etc.

              Why should I judge? I went outside, sighed and felt good or not? I'm judging by sausage, factories, education, fertility. I’m not sitting somewhere in the closet making up charts, but walking along the street and seeing it all with my own eyes, and I don’t believe all these sociologists who will write what they are told. And I see that although sociologists write that the number of cars in cities is growing, but I see WHAT these cars are, it’s second-hand junk, all sorts of VAZ2110 of the 2000 of the year of manufacture that drive on their last legs. There are undoubtedly good cars, only people are buying them for 30, although these are middle-class cars, and for example the national Ford Focus car, we have every working person who has the opportunity to buy for years in 25-27, and we will buy it in 35 and they are glad that they finally saved up on a normal car, it shouldn’t be like that, like this will not happen, then I’ll say that this is really progress, and if we have domestic cars better than foreign ones, it’s generally a holiday, but for now us Lada cheesy costs 1.5 times more expensive than dol on.
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 3 May 2013 12: 47 New
                +7
                Quote: Joker
                and if our domestic cars will be better than foreign ones, then this is generally a holiday, but for now, Lada worthless cheesy costs 1.5 times more than it should.

                I am, by the way ...
                And so already, the president is digging wells for grandmothers, and he is building playgrounds during a press conference ....
                Well, ONE person can’t "debug" the country overnight, even in the rank of president.
                Maybe we need someone "in the face", but simply explain to someone - lowering.
                1. Joker
                  Joker 3 May 2013 18: 21 New
                  +5
                  Well, ONE person can’t "debug" the country overnight, even in the rank of president.

                  What is the government doing?
              2. Gluxar_
                Gluxar_ 3 May 2013 18: 09 New
                +3
                Quote: Joker
                And I don’t cry, I live quite wonderful for myself, only here are the roles of Putin and the state in my welfare 0.0

                So what are you complaining about? Or are you missing a helicopter for happiness?
                What kind of position, the country was blamed badly, but I live in chocolate myself ... my soul only hurts.
                There are two reasons. They snooped in at the office, stayed out at one time, slammed away from the army, but they read on Facebook that Putin was to blame and liked it.
                Either they have come to their senses at one time, but now it’s embarrassing to be ashamed of it ... it’s just that it’s not proper to blame yourself for accusing Putin.
                1. Joker
                  Joker 3 May 2013 18: 31 New
                  +2
                  So what are you complaining about? Or are you missing a helicopter for happiness?

                  I do not have enough personal aircraft. And if without laughter, then it’s trite for the state to be offended, that's all. This is still a military-patriotic site where they discuss the country, and not personal wealth.
                  There are two reasons. They snooped in at the office, stayed out at one time, slammed away from the army, but they read on Facebook that Putin was to blame and liked it.
                  Either they have come to their senses at one time, but now it’s a shame it’s embarrassing ... it’s just not blaming myself

                  Either stupid, or a thief, your ancestors in the red army were not partisans? The neighbors whose 2 cows must have been dispossessed.
                  1. aviamed90
                    aviamed90 3 May 2013 19: 03 New
                    0
                    I fully support you, Joker!
                    And little can be added to this! All of this has already been discussed in the subject "The Great and Almighty." Many copies are broken.
                    1. Joker
                      Joker 3 May 2013 19: 22 New
                      0
                      I fully support you, Joker!

                      Thanks for the support. It’s just corny if Putin is such a patriot, then for 13 years he couldn’t form his team and didn’t squeeze out foreign agents together with thieves? As a result, some left, others came the same. You go to the store and 20 percent of the strength of domestic goods there, the rest is not ours, and if you go for consumer electronics then there is nothing of ours at all. And they still try to prove to us that we are growing. Yes, we are a commonplace market for all of Europe and Asia, coupled with the United States, and also an oil appendage of Europe. All these skolkovs leaked 150 billion of the allocated money, and even they could not make an e-book reader, which the Chinese are stamping in thousands. You will go to a clothing store all made in Europe, or Chine, ours, if any, is sewn in China. And they still sit to prove to me that for 13 years Putin has lifted the country.
                      1. Tverichanka
                        Tverichanka 4 May 2013 01: 11 New
                        0
                        Quote: Joker
                        . To the clothing store

                        I bet you again. There is Ivanovo. Excellent cotton items, bedding. Beautiful shoes in Tula (winter boots carried three winters). In Penza they make good furniture, ordered, brought, really like. We have a dairy in our town. Excellent dairy products. Muscovites come and buy 5-7 kg of butter. You should not say that there is little domestic. We have full-hens, eggs, meat, vegetables. Bananas, yes, oranges, avocados, grapes are all imported. But all year round ... And as a child, I only ate oranges for the New Year (one as a present).
                      2. baltika-18
                        baltika-18 4 May 2013 20: 20 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Tverichanka
                        I bet you again. There is Ivanovo. Excellent cotton items, bedding

                        Less for false information. In Ivanovo, instead of many textile factories, there are shopping malls that sell Turkish, Chinese and Belarusian textiles. I live in the Ivanovo region.
                2. Tverichanka
                  Tverichanka 4 May 2013 01: 01 New
                  -1
                  Dear Joker, you write awesome things. Pay attention to the following- If you ask each separately, then everyone is doing well, everyone is working, they have wealth, a car, and housing. And take the country in general, all kirdyk! Well, it just doesn’t happen ... I know that you can object, with some positions and even agree. But in general, all the same, the country, people in it began to live better.
            2. Atlon
              Atlon 3 May 2013 20: 37 New
              0
              Quote: Joker
              And I don’t cry, I live quite wonderful for myself, only here are the roles of Putin and the state in my welfare 0.0

              Oh? wink What do you mean by the role of Putin in your well-being? What would he bring you money on Fridays? laughing But I, for example, remember how I lived under Gorbachev, under Yeltsin, not receiving a salary of 8-9 months! Feeding grass from the garden ... Without making plans ... And what are the plans ?! In the morning I got up, ran ... Thoughts only, how would you not die of hunger ... And now? Putin also doesn’t bring me money on Fridays! But, I make plans! I'm building a house! I don’t think that I will eat tomorrow? What will my family eat? Every year I began to drive my car to the sea, and the last time I went back in 1984, when I was the USSR. So, Putin made a huge contribution to my well-being!
            3. Tverichanka
              Tverichanka 4 May 2013 00: 49 New
              -1
              Quote: Joker
              and we’ll buy it at 35 and rejoice,

              Well then, answer at the same time, what about cars in the USSR that were bought en masse and by the age of 25 they (even the Lada) were in every family? ... Well, it’s completely incorrect. I don’t know, maybe among your friends and acquaintances they drive rusty and old cars, but in our remote province Chevrolet and Stroen. I’m silent about German and Japanese. Already such as my husband and I, even among pensioners do not remain. We are here on the "Niva" dissect. Like us, that's all. And change is not a problem.
            4. dmitreach
              dmitreach 4 May 2013 16: 29 New
              -2
              but I see what kind of cars it is, it’s used stuff,

              Have you forgotten the times when a three-door Niva or a tinted eight is a dream?
              FORD Focus, by those criteria - UFO.
        2. Nick
          Nick 3 May 2013 11: 53 New
          +3
          Quote: Joker
          and now it feels like we're going downhill

          Well, sensations, subjective thing. If the weather is cloudy over your house, then this does not mean that it is raining all over the country ...
        3. Gluxar_
          Gluxar_ 3 May 2013 18: 06 New
          +3
          Quote: Joker
          Yes and no. First, yes, but now it feels like we are going downhill.

          Perhaps it's all in a personal situation? Maybe it's you sloping downhill? So you describe your current situation and what exactly are your claims to Putin. And that he did not do good in your opinion, but that he did wrong. You write. Then maybe your position will become more clear.
          1. Joker
            Joker 3 May 2013 19: 11 New
            +5
            Perhaps it's all in a personal situation? Maybe it's you sloping downhill? So you describe your current situation and what exactly are your claims to Putin. And that he did not do good in your opinion, but that he did wrong. You write. Then maybe your position will become more clear.

            In a personal situation, I am fine, I am not complaining, I have enough of everything.
            My complaints are as follows.
            1) Too high a percentage of loans for both business and the public.
            2) The quality of education dropped below the plinth, it's time to deal with this problem for a long time.
            3) Excessive growth of the housing and communal services board
            4) WTO Accession
            5) The protection of Taburetkin and the red rat.
            6) Rising prices for food products, real estate more than 6% per year, in the 20 area it turns out, despite the fact that they do not have time to pay for inflation even.
            7) Ineffective government work.
            8) Sale of part of the state. block of shares of the oil company of a foreign company BP
            This is a small part of my complaints.
        4. Heccrbq
          Heccrbq 4 May 2013 00: 22 New
          -2
          We went off the slope a long time ago and fly into the abyss, well, for the sake of interest 60 percent of the arable land was sold to foreigners, in 2007 a law was passed on the free movement of NATO soldiers across Russia, these 2 facts are easily verified, everyone is in the public domain. that our salary has grown and we have built 10 aircraft and 2,5 ships (puddle-stream class)
        5. Tverichanka
          Tverichanka 4 May 2013 00: 41 New
          -1
          Quote: Joker
          and now it feels like we're going downhill.

          This is a subjective sensation. I have a directly opposite. I am not a supporter of varnishes, whether it be the USSR or the present. I see the pros and cons. But I can tell you, I think that SO we have never lived. I have something to compare.
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    5. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 3 May 2013 17: 03 New
      +5
      Quote: Joker
      I’m wondering what has changed in the life of a simple citizen with the advent of Putin? This "real officer" covers Taburetkin and the red rat, he sold part of the state. a block of shares in oil production of a foreign company BP, drove us forcibly into the WTO, destroyed education. How many large factories have been built in 13 years? Maybe we started to produce our own electronics? Maybe salaries rose to the European level? Prices for everything are rising every month, ranging from food to real estate, banks tear wild interest, state. the bank does not belong to us. So what has changed then? Yes, absolutely nothing, we all are waiting for mana from heaven.

      It all depends on how old you are. For example, I went through 99 urgent, leaving thinking that everything ... outlived its own. I remember then in the evenings on duty at their homes, because they sometimes exploded in the middle of the night. I remember the time when there was nothing special to eat except bread. Yes, in general, I remember a lot of things, but these are people who already thought at that time. And there are people who do not remember this and begin to stink. I admit that different people may have different opinions, but when they try to tell me about how bad it is now and the GDP has plundered everything, I just laugh from these downsides. I can’t be zombied or convinced, because I WAS then there. And I saw everything and remember how it was, and I see how it has become today.

      And about the factories, up to Putin a few dozen productions were closed a year, and today more is being built in Russia than in all of Europe combined. And this is a fact with which you can not argue.
    6. dmitreach
      dmitreach 4 May 2013 15: 43 New
      0

      sold part of the state. block of shares for oil production Foreign company BP

      Joker, less emotion. More facts.
      March 21, 2013 in an official press release, the company "Rosneft"Announced the completion of the transaction by purchasing 100% TNK-BP.
      funny here: (sorry 2008 theme)

      BP Board Chairman Peter Sutherland is saddened that Russia's leadership does not prevent oligarchs from using “power tactics”
      BP's chairman of the board Peter Sutherland expressed disappointment at the inaction of the Russian prime minister because Vladimir Putin does not prevent the oligarchs from using force tactics in their attempts to take TNK-BP under its full control, writes The Guardian .
      publication time: June 13, 2008

      http://newsru.com/finance/13jun2008/bp.html
      1. dmitreach
        dmitreach 4 May 2013 15: 57 New
        0
        Maybe salaries rose to the European level?

        Let me remind you for youth, she does not know, but comrade Joker probably forgot.
        In 2000, the deputy head of the sales department of a small factory for the production of washing powder and detergents, with a staff of one and a half to two dozen managers and regular business trips, received - $ 500 per month. In an envelope. The ordinary manager came to 200-250 $ according to the result of the interview. The scope of supply is the entire European part of the Russian Federation. Such tariffs were until 2003, at least. Managers rode a Lada if they knew how to save. Forgot already?
  2. evgenm55
    evgenm55 3 May 2013 12: 25 New
    -2
    Yes, well ... We already know that he doesn’t give up his people ... Serdyukov is an example. Syria is either Putin’s life as a leader or his death ... We’ll see the same ...
  3. Atlon
    Atlon 3 May 2013 14: 21 New
    +5
    Quote: nikkon09
    Act of a real officer.

    Honestly, amazed ... I did not know about such a fact. So the truth is that BB has steel eggs. I still wonder how much endurance he has! Do not follow the blame not with enemies, not with friends. Bend your line slowly but surely. Ignoring taunts and tricks. I think when (and I will live to see it!) We find out what kind of person Putin is, and HOW MUCH he did for Russia! I am proud of such a President!
    1. esaul
      3 May 2013 14: 35 New
      +3
      Quote: Atlon
      Honestly, amazed ...

      I greet you, Pavel, and I was glad you were “struck” by this fact. Fortunately, you have a reaction of a normal, thinking person, and not like that of S_mirnov. hi
      1. Atlon
        Atlon 3 May 2013 20: 28 New
        -1
        Quote: esaul
        Greetings, Pavel

        Mutually Valery! drinks
        I wonder if Putin will ever write a memoir? with pleasure I would read! For not everything is clear to me in his actions, but even doubting initially, always then I understand that he was right!
        1. Akhtuba73
          Akhtuba73 3 May 2013 22: 50 New
          +1
          Atlon
          A crazy thought came to me after your words. With GREAT interest I would read the memoirs of Putin, Stalin and Genghis Khan ...
      2. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 4 May 2013 01: 23 New
        0
        Quote: esaul
        "hit" with this fact.

        Valery, thank you very much for making this public. I found out about this episode two years ago. I have long wanted to tell those who don’t know. But I’m not strong at the computer, I don’t know how much, and somehow in my own words it’s not right. submit or video ... The Germans were delighted with Putin even when he was not standing next to the authorities. Everyone knows there. And your citizens, no. You corrected injustice .. THANKS TO YOU !!!!!!!
    2. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 4 May 2013 01: 18 New
      -1
      Quote: Atlon
      Proud of that president

      So I would kiss for such words !!! And you have to limit yourself to a plus.
    3. queen
      queen 4 May 2013 16: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: Atlon
      HOW MUCH did he do for Russia

      Are you kidding so? Or are you a leech that has an interest? He, the doll in the hands of who controls it.
  4. AndreyAB
    AndreyAB 3 May 2013 15: 02 New
    0
    He would have a good command and then the USSR would be just around the corner, and one thought of what it’s worth is that just give reforms and useless lawmaking for the sake of lawmaking.
    1. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 3 May 2013 18: 12 New
      +2
      Quote: AndreyAB
      He would have a good command and then the USSR would be just around the corner, and one thought of what it’s worth is that just give reforms and useless lawmaking for the sake of lawmaking.

      So vote for those you trust. At least locally.
  • zinander
    zinander 3 May 2013 08: 29 New
    18
    I always believed that Putin is a real officer and a decent person who has his own principles and his own opinion, which he does not change to please anyone.
    1. fanat CSKA
      fanat CSKA 3 May 2013 08: 54 New
      +4
      you have a good nickname ... right))))
    2. does it
      does it 3 May 2013 09: 01 New
      10
      Quote: Iskander
      I always believed that Putin is a real officer and a decent person who has his own principles and his own opinion, which he does not change to please anyone.

      Yes, Putin is our Chekist.
      1. domokl
        domokl 3 May 2013 09: 08 New
        +6
        Quote: kvirit
        Yes, Putin is our Chekist.
        Even among the Chekists there are real officers lol Where were the others? They ran like rats from a ship ...
      2. artemiy
        artemiy 3 May 2013 10: 10 New
        +5
        There are more such Chekists !!!
  • treskoed
    treskoed 3 May 2013 08: 35 New
    15
    Politics is a delicate matter. On the one hand, you can’t make friends, on the other hand, you can’t allow your “friends” to use you. And the main thing is to observe the interests of YOUR country!
    1. v53993
      v53993 3 May 2013 08: 37 New
      10
      Syria is a friend to us without quotes.
      1. domokl
        domokl 3 May 2013 09: 09 New
        +1
        The interests of the country cannot go against the interests of friends if you are a patriot and leader of this country ...
      2. Gluxar_
        Gluxar_ 3 May 2013 18: 13 New
        +2
        Quote: v53993
        Syria is a friend to us without quotes.

        Did they recognize Abkhazia and South Ossetia?
  • individual
    individual 3 May 2013 08: 44 New
    +1
    That's why I supported Putin. After Serdyukovschina and Co., - I do not understand what is happening.
    1. Mr.M
      Mr.M 3 May 2013 09: 35 New
      +2
      There is an opinion that Serdyukov is still not "in places not so distant" because of his possession of strategic, top-secret information, access to which he had as Minister of Defense. Which, of course, greatly complicates the lawsuit. And, it seems, it is necessary to punish, and at the same time to avoid the situation when this bird will sing in the hands of the West.
      1. Gluxar_
        Gluxar_ 3 May 2013 18: 14 New
        0
        Quote: Mr.M
        There is an opinion that Serdyukov is still not "in places not so distant" because of his possession of strategic, top-secret information, access to which he had as Minister of Defense. Which, of course, greatly complicates the lawsuit. And, it seems, it is necessary to punish, and at the same time to avoid the situation when this bird will sing in the hands of the West.

        In which hands? If he will be in a Russian prison?
  • Sasha
    Sasha 3 May 2013 08: 44 New
    +3
    Respect and respect for Putin! And Esaul is just - HUMAN!
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    2. Normal
      Normal 3 May 2013 23: 20 New
      +3
      Everyone who admires Putin’s act
      Quote: Sashok
      Respect and respect for Putin!

      Quote: artemiy
      There are more such Chekists !!!

      Quote: kvirit
      Yes, Putin is our Chekist.

      Quote: Atlon
      Honestly, amazed ... I did not know about such a fact. So the truth is that BB has steel eggs.

      Quote: RUSSIA 2013
      full respect, act of a real hero.

      Quote: domokl
      Russian officer at its best ... I respect for the act, for courage and decisiveness

      Quote: nikkon09
      Act of a Real Officer: Yes, in my philistine opinion, and as a high-level politician, VV

      I will quote from my beloved:
      Interesting story. It may even be that true. But it’s not clear why nothing is known about this feat? How Putin puts out fires - TV report. How he flies on airplanes diving with scuba gear, controls a combine and viburnum - a series of reports. And then silence and silence. Strange, isn't it? Do not use such material to your advantage? Not like the Kremlin masters of PR and propaganda.
      Or maybe it wasn’t much like Karaulov tells us? Maybe these same 5000 people in Dresden do not allow this case to be used since it would be beneficial for Putin? Maybe it’s precisely because this beer story will be told in every beer house (and it’s quite possible that it’s not at all like Karaulov) and the materials were not published ....... By the way, can you tell me which pistol has 12 rounds in the clip? Maybe I'm wrong, but I don’t remember something like that in the arsenal of the power structures of the USSR

      Then there was a polemic with Ruslan67 over whether Putin could have a PMM in his hand in 1989 if this pistol was developed in the early 90's and adopted for service in 1994
      I-So, in 1989 the GDP (according to Karaulov) reflects the attack of a drunken, furious crowd (about 5000 people) with a kind word and weapons, such as a pistol of an unknown system, in the hand ....
      Quote: Ruslan67 -This is not the reason to rest on
      I agree. I will not rest on PMM. Actually, it was not about him, but about the story told by Karaulov. There were 12 rounds of ammunition in the holder of the pistol and twelve steps along which the GDP rose. It seemed to me too beautiful coincidence, too somehow on cinema everything to be true. Hence my doubts .....
      The famous Karaulov master is to escalate, exaggerate and "tear the soul." If you believe at least 10% of his stories, then you can safely hang yourself - that's who most of all shouted: "all the polymers!" He shouted wow - he shouted at a not frail house in the village of "Chigasovo" between Rublevo-Uspensky highway and Zvenigorod.

      And esaulu for publishing this tale is MINUS, not a house in Chigasovo. laughing
      1. Jarilo
        Jarilo 4 May 2013 11: 57 New
        +2
        Quote: Normal
        Interesting story. It may even be that true. But it’s not clear why nothing is known about this feat? How Putin puts out fires - TV report. How it flies on airplanes dives with scuba gear, controls a combine and viburnum - a series of reports

        I support "Normal"
        This story looks very much like another PR campaign. I first heard about this "feat" in 2000. and even believed. But now I do not believe! Too often the words of this gentleman diverge from the deed. Too unprincipled in his "PR".
        And yet, here on the site mostly Patriots of their Motherland gather, but patriotism is different for everyone. Someone considers patriotism the comprehensive and unquestioning support of the current government, and through this prism looks at the world, someone thinks more critically, finds many contradictions in the GDP policy, and tries to talk about it, but he is immediately obstructed by the majority of members of the forum. despite objective arguments and arguments. Dear, we will be more tolerant of each other!
  • djon3volta
    djon3volta 3 May 2013 08: 47 New
    17
    I follow the simple logic of the actions of our Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Putin specifically, it is visible with the naked eye that Russia is not surrendering to Syria. Such things as the calls of our sailors to Tartus, spare parts for helicopters and something else, upholding our intentions at the UN and meetings with Syrian representatives , direct statements that the problem must be resolved peacefully, and many more little things, in the flesh before the news in the Syrian army, and not rebels / militants as it was with Libya (when only opposition jeeps were shown and not the Gaddafi army), it follows what Syria is located under the auspices of the Kremlin!
    I don’t exclude (most likely) that Putin and Assad sometimes carry out telephone conversations that naturally do not get into the press and media (like Putin’s personal conversations with his wife, children, friends), which discusses reports from the fronts of hostilities.
    or here’s a recent trip to Europe and the United States by Anastasia Popova with the screening of the movie SYRIAN DIARY, which shows the other side of the conflict, rather than one-sided news for the European viewer.

    1. Che
      Che 3 May 2013 09: 14 New
      18
      The revenge of the neocolonialists is terrible. Destroy one of the ancient civilizations, here is the work of the evil empire. Amers are not aware of such concepts as honor and conscience. Arabs wake up you finally - you are used as the last prostitute on the panel.
      1. djon3volta
        djon3volta 3 May 2013 11: 19 New
        +1
        Quote: Che
        Destroy one of the ancient civilizations

        Yes, just one word Damascus STEEL what it costs.

  • Belogor
    Belogor 3 May 2013 08: 57 New
    +7
    The point is probably not only in Syria, (although this is an important argument), but in the very concept of Russia's foreign policy. It is necessary to show the world for the future that Russia can defend its interests and principles. And the president is implementing this course, it seems that he will succeed, unlike the previous one.
  • bord731
    bord731 3 May 2013 09: 05 New
    +7
    Syria must be supported in every possible way - political, humanitarian, economic, weapons, as well as military consultants. Since not far off (May 31) the expiration of the sanctions for the supply of weapons to Syria - and with great probability we can say that the Western "aid" of Syria from June 1 will increase significantly ...
  • fanat CSKA
    fanat CSKA 3 May 2013 09: 07 New
    +4
    the thing is guys how to deal with Gaddafi ... Putin was very angry when he talked about it ... not well, really, the Middle Ages now that so atrocities
    1. tradizia
      tradizia 3 May 2013 10: 54 New
      +3
      Centuries are now not average, but worse.
      Someone so wants everything to be unipolar.
      Doesn’t come out! Gentlemen from Washington!
  • Apollo
    Apollo 3 May 2013 09: 07 New
    21
    review from El Murida

    1. Che
      Che 3 May 2013 09: 22 New
      +8
      Respect to Apollo. +++ I enjoyed meeting the video with pleasure. The feeling that the truth is winning I had six months ago. It’s good that my feelings are confirmed. But the evil empire still exists, this must not be forgotten.
    2. tradizia
      tradizia 3 May 2013 11: 01 New
      +3
      Short and clear! Thank you!
    3. d_t_p
      d_t_p 3 May 2013 18: 09 New
      -1
      Listen, how much is this video already?
      in terms of this data on what number?
  • Speedy
    Speedy 3 May 2013 09: 36 New
    +2
    Esaul, as always +
  • Rauf V.
    Rauf V. 3 May 2013 09: 37 New
    16
    Zdravstvuite! Ya bolee chem uveren: vashe schastye v tom, chto Rossiyei i russkimi upravlyaet RUSSKII! Vash prezident Putin - etnicheskii russkii. I eto glavnoe! Russkih i interesy Rossii on ne sdast ni pri kakih obstoyatelstvah, chtoby tam ne govorili. Nam by takogo ...
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta 3 May 2013 10: 07 New
      0
      Quote: Rauf V.
      Nam by takogo ...

      where are you from? where do you live?
      1. Rauf V.
        Rauf V. 3 May 2013 11: 06 New
        +4
        Ya Zhivu v Baku. Ne znayu pochemu mne pridelali pindosskii flag. Ne mog srazu otvetit - svyaz propala ..
    2. RUSSIA 2013
      RUSSIA 2013 4 May 2013 11: 21 New
      0
      Yes, Putin, as president, and as a serious personality, I think that he will not give up Russia's interests in Syria. Amerov only stops the position of Russia and China.
  • Sewer
    Sewer 3 May 2013 09: 43 New
    +4
    Respect to the author and Vladimir Vladimirovich!
  • mojohed
    mojohed 3 May 2013 09: 55 New
    +2
    You need to decide already. Which side are we on. If on the side of our truth, then openly help Syria. If on the side of those who caved in under the USA and NATO, then surrender and then after Syria those guys with beards will come to us and they will do the same as in Syria. But, if we continue the same neutrality, then Syria will fall. Maybe I'm wrong, and I'm waiting for some action, but looking at the Syrian diary - it's hard to sit still.
  • Grishka100watt
    Grishka100watt 3 May 2013 09: 56 New
    +2
    Thanks so much for the article.
    A plus.
  • Bigriver
    Bigriver 3 May 2013 10: 07 New
    +9
    I, like, not a girl love And it’s not a boy for a long time.
    But, looking into the eyes of the GDP, I clearly see that this person has honor, conscience, and pain for the country.
    This is a rarity for our top officials. Most of the eyes, mainly, cynicism and selfishness.
  • Tolik.
    Tolik. 975 3 May 2013 10: 12 New
    +1
    did not know about the act of GDP, thanks to the author!
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta 3 May 2013 11: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Tolik.975
      did not know about the act of GDP, thanks to the author!

      You’ll find out a lot of other things if you look at all the episodes of the DOC.Transmission UNKNOWN PUTIN.

      1. esaul
        3 May 2013 14: 15 New
        +4
        I greet you all, colleagues hi
        just showed up from work and was pleased to see that most members of the forum have already formed their assessment of Putin and the situation in the country. THANKS TO ALL THOSE WHO UNDERSTANDING RISK OF MY POSITION, THANKS TO AND ADMINISTRATION OF THE SITE, TOGETHER WITH THE EDITOR, FOR THE PUBLICATION AND WORTHY AN ACCOMPANYING PHOTO.
        If someone is surprised by my activity in the issue of such small articles, then it is dictated only by employment at work, which does not allow spending much time on the forum. And thoughts, as A. Raikin said, “They move ... they haunt ...!” laughing
        I will continue to bother you this way, colleagues. You do not blame me.

        I ask you guys to pay attention to this post by Eugene (trivolta laughing ) since we learn a lot about a lot from this video a lot of what the pro-liberal media, paid for by foreign virtues, hid about us.
        Now the situation in which Russia was before Putin’s radical intervention in regulating oil revenues was created in Ukraine - the same RSP and the same gradual dismantling of the prom. If the Ukrainian rulers in the very near future do not change their minds and do not join the CU, then Ukraine, as a sovereign state-woo, will receive a full deal.
        John, thanks for the video. good
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 3 May 2013 14: 25 New
          +5
          Quote: esaul

          I ask you guys to pay attention to this post by Eugene (trivolta

          Yes, we don’t miss one of his comments, sometimes he gives such masterpieces wassat
          1. esaul
            3 May 2013 14: 45 New
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes, we don’t miss one of his comments, sometimes he gives such masterpieces

            Sasha, hi. You might think others do not allow blunders ... No one is safe from this, and you, including myself ... So "pearls" sometimes go out from the pen of everyone.
            1. Apollo
              Apollo 3 May 2013 17: 57 New
              +5
              Quote: esaul
              You might think others do not allow blunders ... No one is safe from this, and you, including myself ... So "pearls" sometimes go out from the pen of everyone.



              Good evening, Valery! Do you remember Mine’s expression ... I won’t quote further, do you call it blunders too ?! Honestly, I didn’t expect from you! Guess where your comparison draws ?!

              As for the "hero" of the forum in djon3volta, you know Valery, I personally pay tribute to Vladimir Putin in the first and second presidential terms. I have done a lot for Russia, in particular, pulled the country out of the quagmire and breathed new life into the life of the country , made it possible for people to believe in their strengths and in the country, but, recent events, in particular the story of defense service, Serdyukov, the failed policy in the field of housing and communal services and education, nullify all the merits of V. Putin. if I am not right to object to me. And what about John, so listen to him all the way, all perfectly respected mark for.
              1. esaul
                3 May 2013 18: 42 New
                +1
                Quote: Apollon
                Good evening, Valery!

                And I welcome you, Apollo!
                Quote: Apollon
                Mine expression ... I will not quote further

                Why are you shy, Apollo? Your knowledge (or lack of knowledge) of the German language, in which the word "Mine" means - "Mine, mine, mine" or that you associate this word with the name of a war criminal - A. Hitler? wink You somehow decide, and then together we will be shy.
                Quote: Apollon
                Guess where your comparison draws ?!
                Where is it going, Apollo? In my opinion, this draws to the fact that a comrade repeating the favorite phrase of the VAF, apparently, assigned it to himself as an example. Well, what do I care about this? It has every right ...
                Quote: Apollon
                I personally pay tribute to V.V. Putin in the first and second presidential terms. I have done a lot for Russia, in particular, pulled the country out of the quagmire and breathed new life into the life of the country, and made it possible for people to believe in themselves and in the country

                Speak good and right words, Apollo! And hereafter, it prevailed with well-worn arguments in the spirit of the most knowledgeable shortest escape routes, impatient and most just and deeply moral ...
                Quote: Apollon
                .If I am wrong, object to me

                I object to you, Apollo. I really do not want to indulge in ranting that in order to make an accusation, you need to have FULL, EXCLUSIVE and UNFINCATABLE EVIDENCE OF GUILANCE on hand! And - second - the degree of guilt (or NOT guilt) is determined by the court on the basis of the Law, and not on the basis of emotions, assumptions and sympathies or antipathies. As for Oboronservis and Serdyukov, there is an investigation and collection of EVIDENCE, so as not to turn a fair trial into a farce! And when did Putin manage to ruin the housing and communal services in a year? Just don’t need to cut a hackneyed record about 13 years (About 20 years your like-minded people ALREADY not stutter - something began to reach). It is a pity that you could not avoid the temptation to loudly and lightly bring charges ...
                And John doesn’t pass the blame on anyone, he defends his own point of view and his political preferences in his own way, like any of us.
                1. Apollo
                  Apollo 3 May 2013 19: 07 New
                  +3
                  Quote: esaul
                  Why are you shy, Apollo? Your knowledge (or lack of knowledge) of the German language, in which the word "Mine" means - "Mine, mine, mine" or that you associate this word with the name of a war criminal - A. Hitler? You somehow decide, and then together we will be shy.


                  Valery! I somehow do not complain about my knowledge, You see, I suffer from an excess of knowledge. wassat Я did not intentionally quote Your statement to the end did not find it necessary for yourself to do this.

                  Quote: esaul
                  In my opinion, this draws to the fact that a comrade repeating the favorite phrase of the VAF, apparently, assigned it to himself as an example. Well, what do I care about this? It has every right ...


                  and here you were mistaken, I have my own ideas in life and my idols, there are no unmistakable and completely standard people, to which I include the VAF. In my opinion, you allowed an insult to a veteran of the Russian Armed Forces, and this is not excusable, even for you, as a moderator (the rules are spelled out not only for forum visitors) all the more. You should be an example. for everyone on the forum.


                  Quote: esaul
                  Speak good and right words, Apollo! And hereafter, it prevailed with well-worn arguments in the spirit of the most knowledgeable shortest escape routes, impatient and most just and deeply moral ...


                  how can you judge me if you absolutely don’t know me. I’m not judging you. I just didn’t give you a specific assessment but to your comment before last. Although I honestly made a big mistake for me, that is, your comment should have been deleted as contrary to the rules of the .VO rules are prescribed including for moderators.
                  1. Apollo
                    Apollo 3 May 2013 19: 08 New
                    +6
                    Quote: esaul
                    I object to you, Apollo. I really do not want to indulge in ranting that in order to make an indictment, you need to have FULL, EXCLUSIVE and UNFINCATABLE GUARANTEES in your hands! And - second - the degree of guilt (or NOT guilt) is determined by the court on the basis of the Law, and not on the basis of emotions, assumptions and sympathies or antipathies. As for Oboronservis and Serdyukov, there is an investigation and collection of EVIDENCE, so as not to turn a fair trial into a farce! And when did Putin manage to ruin the housing and communal services in a year? Just don’t need to cut a hackneyed record about 13 years (About 20 years your like-minded people ALREADY not stutter - something began to reach). It is a pity that you could not avoid the temptation to loudly and lightly bring charges ...
                    And John doesn’t pass the blame on anyone, he defends his own point of view and his political preferences in his own way, like any of us.


                    Well, yes, girls from the group ....... who are serving time for their whistle-blowing, who were immediately and deservedly closed, and those who caused great damage to the country, including the defense capabilities and prestige of the RF Armed Forces, are for some reason allowed to be under house arrest. Where justice Valery ?! Regarding the guilt of judicial and investigative activities, do not make me laugh and you call all this a consequence, I would call it a different CIRC, and only, or rather a tragicomedy. FARS, by God, if some other person wrote to me, I thought that would not be a serious person l for it does not have all the information, but you Valery. You went through a large school of life to explain to you the truths.There is a category of people for whom the law is not spelled out.As far as housing and communal services are concerned, it wasn’t that he collapsed, those of which he appointed responsible for this area collapsed, which means joint and several liability.Where are the notes of regret? Where is the guilty plea?! And the last. As for your “patriot,” from his pen, apart from empty praise and obscurity, I didn’t notice anything worthwhile in his comments. Another thing would be if objective criticism sounded in his comments. Then it would be different. and communication. I respect ideological people even if their rhetoric contradicts my position in life, but there are plenty of sneakers in my republic too. trust me, despise. Imho
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                      2. Apollo
                        Apollo 3 May 2013 20: 42 New
                        +5
                        For some reason this reminds me of a meaningful dialogue.
                        - You're wrong...
                        - What ! So you called me a goat?! [Quote = Apollon]. You should be an example. For everyone on the forum. [/ Quote]
                        Flatters of course. But, I kind of try to get around sharp corners ... lol Opponents only appreciate this, but they don’t want to! [Quote = Apollon] Although, to be honest, I made a big mistake to me, that is, your comment had to be deleted as contrary to the rules of VO [/ quote]
                        I agree. Only you, Apollo, prove to me the insult of the comment. In short, buddy, I don’t understand why you don’t see the far-fetchedness of your accusations. Wanted to juggle with words? So for this it is not necessary to look for a reason for accusation.
                        And yet - probably it became clear to me who deleted my comment that I was not going to be like an eccentric with a fly swatter who chases the flies (multidirectional arguments) that Alexander loves to release. If I am offered to fend off an argument, then I try to give a reasoned (link, etc.) answer exactly to it, and not anticipate all the brain tricks of the opponent.
                        I am afraid, Apollo, that you are too zealous in the "moderator case" ... [/ quote]

                        and here is a mistake. You probably didn’t get into the essence of my proposal. Here I had something else in mind, namely that people tend to make mistakes, including VAF. For one day, so many mistakes Valery isn’t too much ?!

                        so you refuse to admit your mistake, so what ......

                        DAAAA. Well, how can I object to you, I’ll write intelligibly, if I hadn’t appreciated it and wouldn’t have been wasting my precious time on a dialogue with you.


                        and what is there to prove, everything is clear here and so. comparison with Hitler what other facts do you need.
                        What you understand and what not is not my question.
                        here on the forum there are comrades who are ranked higher than you and me, they are to judge and in the end I take on exactly as much as I can shoulder.
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                    3. Apollo
                      Apollo 3 May 2013 20: 41 New
                      +4
                      [quote = esaul] Apollo, buddy ...! Well, let me “quote”! Pliz - “Mine WAF” read? Commendable. At least something for yourself you draw on the site. "And - what? This refers to a friend repeating the favorite phrase of the WAF -" ... Esaul will come and tell ... "And - what?! [/ Quote]

                      I know who wrote and why. Where is Waf here ?! Serve as much as Waf. Then you won’t be judged.

                      [quote = esaul] [quote = Apollon] I deliberately did not quote [/ quote]
                      laughing laughing laughing Apollo, buddy ...! Well, let me “quote”! Pliz - “Mine WAF” read? Commendable. At least you draw something for yourself on the site. "And - what? It refers to a comrade repeating the favorite phrase of the WAF -" ... Esaul will come and tell ... "And - what?! [Quote = Apollon] I have my own concepts in life and their idols exist, infallible and completely standard people do not exist, to which I include the VAF [/ quote]
                      Here I fell into a stupor - so the VAF is a “faultless and completely standard” person or all the same [quote = Apollon], to which I include the VAF. [/ Quote]?
                      [quote = Apollon] In my opinion, you have allowed an insult to a veteran of the Russian Armed Forces [/ quote]
              2. Tverichanka
                Tverichanka 4 May 2013 01: 54 New
                -1
                Quote: Apollon
                object right to me.

                Can I intervene and mind? You probably remember the reaction of the West when Putin announced that he would run for president. And the media screamed, and Biden rushed it.d. etc ... But he went and won! And what do you think, everyone who was against, humbled themselves and said, “Yes, and let him rule”? Moreover, immediately Putin announced the rearmament of the army. Did anyone like us like this? Is it not clear that in every conceivable and inconceivable way he is trying to insert sticks into the wheels everywhere? Who in the world likes the creation of TS? Independent policy on Syria? They understand perfectly well that if Putin is left alone, in 10 years there will be no slush with Russia ... This is obvious. We can’t imagine for sure WHAT and HOW really. We do not have the completeness of information, and never will be ... So all of him is well and let him continue to do his work !!!!
          2. djon3volta
            djon3volta 3 May 2013 17: 57 New
            -3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes, we don’t miss one of his comments, sometimes he gives such masterpieces

            Quote: baltika-18
            Eugene under close attention. Do not worry about his future. If there were no people like him, life would become gray and monotonous.

            thanks for the care, keep earned! smile
            1. Rezun
              Rezun 3 May 2013 19: 42 New
              +2
              "Fine, Gregory?
              Great, Konstantin! "
          3. Rezun
            Rezun 3 May 2013 19: 34 New
            +4
            No need to jerkAlexander Romanov.
            Personally, I envy Putin, he had clear order!
            And if the GKChP gave you clear order, what would you do?
            Let's pay tribute to people who did not give rise to a civil war ...
        2. baltika-18
          baltika-18 3 May 2013 16: 14 New
          +4
          Quote: esaul
          I will continue to bother you this way, colleagues.

          Write, Valera.
          Thoughts should not be imprisoned for a long time, otherwise the mind will crack.
          All the same, you will not help Putin with this; he himself has chosen his own path, and free his consciousness to accept new thoughts.
          Quote: esaul
          I ask you guys to pay attention to this post by Eugene (trivolta

          Eugene under close attention. Do not worry about his future. If there were no people like him, life would become gray and monotonous.
          1. esaul
            3 May 2013 18: 17 New
            0
            Quote: baltika-18
            Thoughts should not be imprisoned for a long time, otherwise they will crack consciousness

            "Well said foreign tourist ...!" laughing
            Quote: baltika-18
            You can’t help Putin anyway, he chose his own path

            Guys, you have been threatening almost from the very first term of Putin’s presidency. And what else remains if no new thoughts come, right?
            Though cheeks, like a gerbil lizard, blow - and let off steam and rise in your own eyes ...
            Quote: baltika-18
            Eugene under scrutiny.

            In such nannies, the child will necessarily remain without an eye.
            Here you are, Kolya, like a serious man, and you “scare” everyone with some threatening hints ... It's ridiculous, by God!
            Quote: baltika-18
            If there weren’t people like him, life would become gray and monotonous.

            You can’t imagine how I agree with you! When, at one time, there were exclamations on the forum to ban one or another from appearing for the alternative of their views, I always spoke out that this should not be done - it would be boring.
            Of course, we have differences on the issue of whose views are alternative, but let everyone remain at his own ...
            I am only struck by the tirelessness of your like-minded people who do not spare the time to come to an agreement, to hell knows how many branches back and zaminusat undesirable to you, as happened today with John Trivolta.
            When you come across such a mouse fuss, it becomes disgusting that adults behave like immoral girls of the modeling business, who do not disdain any means to humiliate a rival.
            But! at the same time, you are not tired of talking about respect and human dignity.
            I understand that to appeal to your conscience and to your respect for yourself is useless, but - all the same - I try ...
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 3 May 2013 22: 31 New
              +4
              Quote: esaul
              "Well said foreign tourist ...!

              Central Federal District, Ivanovo Region, 60 km from the regional center.
              The rest is without comment.
              Everyone has their own truth. And the truth is one .... And only the judge is true and true.
              So ... wait.
              And so, in principle, Valera, set out well, but on the patterns.
        3. Normal
          Normal 4 May 2013 00: 14 New
          +2
          Quote: esaul
          John, thanks for the video.

          "What is this person's face today?" And here in the frame appears Karaulov "A very interesting face ..." laughing For three minutes I precipitate, I can’t watch - laughter chokes. Oh, "a very interesting face" at Karaulov himself - ate a good ryah ... and said right to the point; the botox face of "this person", the botox ...
          He wiped away the tears of laughter, calmed down, I think; still need to see.
          "For everything in the answer 2000s - 2010. For everything in the answer"
          WHAT FOR ANSWER ?! John, esaul ?! WHAT IN THE ANSWER ??? For what, at least once, at least one of them ANSWERED ??? You still remember the hunchback with his "We have a huge responsibility." What responsibility lies with the head of state in Russia? NO! NEVER AND ANYTHING !!!
          Ugh, you! Either look further, or .... Well, let’s try ...
          "What were they, these years, for this person, does anyone know? Does anyone, anyone, except himself know this?" Oh pathos! Yes, everyone knows! Especially John, he knows everything. And we all do not live abroad - we see, listen, read everything. Next comes Fedorov and I can’t stand it ....
          No, I can still perceive John - it's still funny. But to take what Fedorov bears in all seriousness - thank you. My head doesn’t have a toilet to spoil it, sorry for being rude
        4. Tverichanka
          Tverichanka 4 May 2013 01: 40 New
          -4
          Quote: esaul
          I will continue to bother you this way

          Oh, get bored more often !!! Such wonderful annoying pleases and helps to understand what's what. As a result, your \ our supporters become more. Isn't that great?
    2. tttttt
      tttttt 3 May 2013 19: 41 New
      +2
      I want to insert my 3 pennies. Sorry for vulgarity at once - Anecdote:

      Symposium of surgeons.
      The American reports: - We, American surgeons, performed a unique operation. An explosion at the mine caused the American miner to knock out his eyes, and so we inserted wooden eyes for him - his vision was 100% restored.
      The Russian reports: - Well, we also had an operation, also a miner, a member with eggs was torn off by an explosion, so we sewed an udder from a cow to him - now he satisfies his wife several times at once and milked again.
      American: - It can’t be! This does not happen! Who saw this? !!!!!!!!
      Russian: - Yes, that one with your wooden eyes and saw!

      What am I getting at? Well, you probably understand? Oh, and who saw this? repeat
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 4 May 2013 02: 08 New
        -2
        Quote: tttttt
        ? Oh, and who saw it

        The Germans who took part in those events. Their journalists even then wrote about it. Putin at that time was not in power, but served in the KGB. And then German journalists could not know that he would become the president of Russia, and therefore you will not be able to accuse them of Putin’s PR.
  • tradizia
    tradizia 3 May 2013 10: 26 New
    +7
    Thank! that they began to write about our president, specifically, the forgotten truth!
    I am proud of our president!
  • SEM
    SEM 3 May 2013 10: 43 New
    10
    Quote: domokl
    Quote: Nevsky
    Act of a Real Officer
    Russian officer at its best ... I respect for the act, for courage and decisiveness


    TOTALLY AGREE !!! This was and will be the Russian land !!! On the Russian Character, on the Russian soul !!!
  • The shelezyak
    The shelezyak 3 May 2013 10: 53 New
    +4
    Those who put a minus to the article - to turn their backs to the crowd, you must have a spirit.
    You can not understand.
  • Wolland
    Wolland 3 May 2013 11: 31 New
    +2
    AMERICOS AND ANGLOSAKS OTHER HANDS FROM SYRRIA! And in general it’s time to squeeze these two snakes ....
  • Gur
    Gur 3 May 2013 12: 36 New
    0
    I did not understand, but where are all the dots over the “I”? Something again, ur and Putin did well, I know without you how we really help Syria? Bandits from Chechnya and Dagestan?
  • Tartary
    Tartary 3 May 2013 12: 47 New
    +1
    There is no arguing here, but in the USSR, each type of product in each industry was specifically defined for its own cost and trade margins ... Plus, the increase in prices for belts during transportation - the farther from the center, the product is a little more expensive. The price of the 1st belt, the 2nd, the 3rd, the 4th was clearly written on each bottle-jar ... As now, on each pack of cigarettes - the price recommended for sale.

    In reference books on industries, the price for a particular product was determined, which has not changed for decades.

    Disputes about Putin will never stop ... Neither during his lifetime, nor (God forbid) after ............. Now it’s already clear that he stands as a statesman alongside Peter the Great, outstanding emperors of the Romanov dynasty, (let Khrushchev-Brezhnev go, Andropov-Gorbachev-Yeltsin too), add Lenin, Stalin, Putin ... And let the Bear suck its paw ...
    1. Gur
      Gur 3 May 2013 13: 08 New
      +4
      Yes, I think that he (Putin) will have to come up with a phrase like Stalin about wind and a lot of garbage. For I look, there are a lot of conflicting opinions. I personally like him (although of course I don’t like a woman). And I don’t see people which could even out or replace it. It was about the officers that they say that someone said that they say 20 colonels and so many generals and there’s no one who is smarter than Putin. And where are you comrade were the officers with your mind when the country was torn to pieces? or in Chechnya they were ambushed in ambush, where was your mind? Or is everyone now enlightened? I don’t get one in Putin, I said do it, I said in the toilet we’ll kill, kill wherever you want and drag it into the toilet. But if it’s more serious, it’s necessary to take up the country, there’s no time to sway already. Enough for us in 20 years of the NEP, it’s time for the state to think about people.
      1. Tartary
        Tartary 3 May 2013 14: 06 New
        0
        Quote: GUR
        One in Putin is missing me, said do, said dunk in the toilet, kill wherever you want and drag to the toilet.


        lol good
        Allegorically, with humor, but essentially ... I agree 100%. Thanks for the positive. drinks
    2. esaul
      3 May 2013 14: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: Tartary
      that he stands as a statesman along with Peter the Great, eminent emperors of the Romanov dynasty,

      Hello to you, my friend Tartary! fellow Thank you for your ratings and support. And about this is your phrase, I think - you're right. It is necessary to have extraordinary courage to go against such economic whales, which are indicated in the video posted by Eugene. It sounds from me not out of cringing, as some people prefer to see in my comments, but as a sober assessment of an act. And I'm glad that you and I are in the same boat. Shake your hand! drinks
      1. Tartary
        Tartary 3 May 2013 18: 19 New
        +1
        Hi, Valery!
        Thanks for the review.
        With an opportunity, I wanted to ask: - When are you organizing meetings on strategic issues, I want to participate ...
        Here recently, your “friends” (yes, apparently mine), scammed such news that at first you had a meeting of the Esaul group, and then a trip to the authorities for instructions - drop the link to the resource where you conduct the debriefing and set tasks ... lol
        Insert a link right here - can anyone else be interested? What should we hide? wink
        You look sensible guys will be pulled from beginners - there will be with whom plans to discuss the bulk in an organized format ... drinks
        1. esaul
          3 May 2013 19: 16 New
          +2
          Quote: Tartary
          Hello Valery

          Hello again, buddy!
          Quote: Tartary
          "friends" (yes, apparently mine), skipped such news that at first you had a meeting of the Esaul group, and then a trip to the authorities for instructions - drop the link to the resource where you conduct the debriefing and set tasks

          Yes, a couple of days ago, when I arrived at twelve o'clock in the morning and looked at VO, I laughed at these childish games of robber Cossacks! lol He laughed ... And my words of gratitude to you today, meant, just, deep gratitude for the fact that you then spoke out against the crowd, accustomed to screaming - "Atu!"
          But in essence of their “Shyyen” assumptions, I’ll say - everyone judges others in his own thoughts and actions. I just mentioned their conspiracy and their diligent “painstaking and fruitful work” in the matter of persecuting those who dared to object to them. Apparently, this is in their blood and cannot be corrupted by anything, even if they’re talking about self-respect. What are you...! After all, they solve the questions of life and death of the state! And this is worthy of the most titanic efforts!

          Quote: Tartary
          You look sensible guys will be pulled from beginners - there will be with whom plans to discuss the bulk in an organized format ...

          I accept your humorous tone, my friend. This is what our like-minded people lack for you - these are activities in opposing opponents. Apparently, the internal culture makes it difficult to evaluate (sculpt minuses or plus) comments not on the basis of content, but on the basis of personal devotion, as our opponents are used to doing. Well - well ... This is our cross ... laughing
  • Opera
    Opera 3 May 2013 13: 08 New
    +5
    What did Putin do? Putin saved and strengthened the country!
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta 3 May 2013 18: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: Oper
      Putin saved and strengthened the country!

      and some are convinced that Putin is falling apart. why they think so, interesting ... request it seems that they live not in Russia, but in other countries, I won’t call them, everyone will guess.
  • Ivan
    Ivan 3 May 2013 13: 20 New
    +1
    Quote: djon3volta
    Quote: Joker
    So what has changed? Yes, absolutely nothing

    I recognized you, it's you on the video!




    Recent studies by sociologists: Absolute poverty has disappeared in Russia! There were 1,25% of people living on $ 2000 per day (poor according to the UN classification) in 1, now it is 0,05%. The poor according to the American classification in 2000 were 2/3 of Russians, now 25% (in the USA - 15%). From 3,5 to 1,5 times the difference between the owners of personal computers between the poor and wealthy Russians has decreased. On expensive refrigerators
    know-frost (multi-chamber and self-freezing) the difference now is also 1,5 times. Owners of plasma TVs increased from 14 to 26% among “poor” Russians. We take the 2nd place in the world in the number of pets. We feed animals 85% with specialized feeds, which takes $ 625 a year for their food alone. We have cats per capita in the United States, but we spend more on them than in the United States. Undoubtedly, this was the best decade in the history of Russia. But Putin
    created a very inflexible mode.
  • Ivan
    Ivan 3 May 2013 13: 21 New
    +3
    The true face of the liberals
    1. Tartary
      Tartary 3 May 2013 14: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: Iwan
      The true face of the liberals

      Nah, the marginal is already the 21st century, the USSR has long been gone, and he listens to everything and listens to the hoarse Voice of America ... lol
  • Mhpv
    Mhpv 3 May 2013 15: 22 New
    +2
    Concerning It is my opinion that it was no coincidence that the Special Forces Troops appeared in Counted, capable of fulfilling the assigned tasks of protecting interests. Counted in foreign countries.
    Well, about Putin, those whom he annoys answer the simple question of who do you see him as an alternative?
    in any case, the Way is stability, and the fight against corruption as soon as you want is another revolution, so let's not think about ourselves but about children. hi
    1. Ivan
      Ivan 3 May 2013 19: 20 New
      0
      Vice Prime Minister Ragozin or Mo Shoigu, but not a bear, I’m moving Putin’s successor. And let “liberals choke on malice.
  • dizelniy
    dizelniy 3 May 2013 15: 24 New
    0
    It's time to take the next step. We need a concept for the development of the Motherland, the privatization of the central bank, and then nothing will stop us. The president’s officer youth evokes reasonable respect.
  • MG42
    MG42 3 May 2013 16: 22 New
    +3
    I saw this story with a story about Putin’s brave deed on TV about 7 years ago, I don’t remember exactly, but I knew it for a long time, it’s amazing that for some it’s news, I thought that in Russia the ears buzzed about it, but no.
    However, it’s better <late> than never to know.
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 3 May 2013 16: 37 New
    +3
    "Putin said in a behind-the-scenes conversation that he would not surrender Assad, even if the battle reached the streets of Moscow." Putin’s action is certainly worthy, but I liked this phrase more - God forbid that the words do not diverge from the deed!
  • kush62
    kush62 3 May 2013 17: 09 New
    +2
    Well, I do not think that the battle will reach the streets of Moscow. It is not for nothing that we took up ecology and planted poplars. So what is better on the far approaches to Russia.
  • vvp901
    vvp901 3 May 2013 17: 49 New
    +2
    So the time has come, Vladimir Vladimirovich, to act with our liberals in the same manly manner as in Dresden. I respect such people immensely and appreciate such actions. I am sure there are now enough men in Russia who will not run to hide, but will reliably cover you. I can say with you and the Russian people to victory!
  • horoh
    horoh 3 May 2013 18: 47 New
    +2
    In this case, Vladimir Vladimirovich well done, for this he has deep respect !!!!
  • Vtel
    Vtel 3 May 2013 18: 59 New
    0
    GDP must be based on its Orthodox People, on the Patriots of Russia and on all other people for whom Russia is not an empty phrase or a temporary feeding trough, then mutual trust will be greater. He must be consistent in the fight against the robbers of national property, even if they were in a close circle, otherwise it is a vicious circle. And most importantly, it would be time for the GDP to decide whether it is with whom it is the liberal destructors of Russia or the Orthodox Russian people, then honor and glory and help from God will be given to it.
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 4 May 2013 02: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Vtel
      GDP must be based on your Orthodox Naro

      And what about the rest you do not respect? Both Muslims and Buddhists live in Russia. And there are atheists. You do not know?
  • cool.ya-nikola
    cool.ya-nikola 3 May 2013 19: 08 New
    +2
    Quote: esaul
    I will continue to bother you this way, colleagues. You do not blame me.

    Dear Valery! Plus To you, for your work! You, please, continue to "annoy this way!" I hope that many on this site will agree that good never happens much! So, we will wait for your next work! I wish you success and all the best! hi drinks
    I hope that those who are "in the same boat" are still the majority!
    1. esaul
      3 May 2013 19: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: cool.ya-nikola
      Dear Valery

      Good evening, Nikolai hi Thank you for your kind words, mate. If there was a smiley with the application of a hand to the heart, I would address it to you with appreciation. I hope that tomorrow’s issue of VO will already contain a short article written in one indignant breath about the idiots who dared to challenge our right to call the victory of our people in the Second World War - OUR VICTORY. This is somewhat in line with the publication on this topic in VO, but, this is MY OPINION! The article is called - "Not yours - do not touch!"
  • tttttt
    tttttt 3 May 2013 19: 21 New
    -2
    Quote: djon3volta
    Quote: Joker
    because an honest citizen is now not like a factory, a small shop will not be able to open

    so who will really work in the country if everyone opens stores and engages in resale or sale? Let's all become businessmen, stop sowing bread and build houses, and open stores.
    not everyone wants to be traders, there are people who like to grind pieces of iron and drive a tractor, here on May 1, Putin handed them a HERO LABOR star!


    Yeah, and another of those awarded was a conductor ... "Gentlemen are given to me, it was a comedy ..." (c / f "A Man from the Caputzin Boulevard") fellow laughing

    Aha
    1. tttttt
      tttttt 3 May 2013 19: 59 New
      +1
      Yeah, well, the first minuses have flown, probably on this site they plus only those who sing praises to Putin.
      But as for the conductor of Hero of Labor, it’s true, my friends are ashamed ... We continue to minus:
      On May 1, 2013, at the Konstantinovsky Palace in St. Petersburg, Russian President Vladimir Putin first handed the gold medals of the Heroes of Labor of Russia to five Russians.

      They became world famous Mariinsky Theater Conductor and Artistic Director Valery Gergiev, machine operator, leading specialist of the agricultural enterprise "Russia-Agro" Voronezh region Yuri Konnov, as well as Konstantin Chumanov - specialist turner of the enterprise "Instrument-making plant", the city of Trekhgorny, Chelyabinsk region.

      The title of Hero of Labor was also awarded to Vladimir Melnik, the driver of mining and excavation machines at the Kotinskaya mine in the Kemerovo Region. The fifth highest award was received by Russia's leading specialist in neurosurgery and academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences, director of the N. N. Burdenko Institute of Neurosurgery Alexander Konovalov.

      As the head of state said during the award ceremony: “We tried, it was a difficult task to choose the first laureates of the title“ Hero of Labor of the Russian Federation ”, because we have many talented, successful people, and it was really a difficult task. We tried to do so "in order to select the most significant sectors and there to find those heroes of labor who will be the first to receive the title of" Hero of Labor. "In my opinion, this choice was very successful."

      The Russian president wished all the awarded health and continued success in their work.


      The Hero of Labor is a reward for people of work, for labor exploit, it was so with the Union. And where is the conductor?
      I have the honor.
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 4 May 2013 02: 26 New
        0
        Quote: tttttt
        it is a reward for people of labor, for labor exploit, so it was with the Union.

        You know nothing about the Union or the award. The title Hero of Socialist Labor was awarded to both directors and artists and musicians. Google, find out at least what it is about .... Do you think the work is to dig ditches?
  • Ratibor12
    Ratibor12 3 May 2013 19: 32 New
    -1
    Unfortunately, unlike Syria, the entire range of Russian leaders, starting with Gorbachev, was outright traitors. And this succession seems to be respected. Hopes for Putin’s “good king” did not materialize. His last communication with the people left an unpleasant aftertaste. Twists, bustles, twists ... He has nothing to say to the people. He is not Stalin. He is Kerensky - the "chief speaker." Temporary worker.
    Like Musin: deindustrialization of the country, parasitic owner, collapse of the management system.
    In general, there is still some time. We look. We wait. We hope for the best. But I am afraid that, as always, insanity will reach the extreme point. And the current leadership will wag ... sing, trying to sit on several chairs at once.

    "... the" wild "ruler of Russia, who at one time, did not hesitate to go out alone with a gun against a crowd of drunken German youths with the words: I am an officer. And I will do what I was taught - I will shoot ... I’ll leave the last bullet for yourself…"

    The future is quite capable of giving Putin this opportunity. And I hope that he will act like an officer, and not run away from the Kremlin, uh ... disguised as a woman’s dress or kimono.
    1. tttttt
      tttttt 3 May 2013 20: 04 New
      +5
      For quoting Marat Musin I put +! This is one of the few patriots of Russia in fact, a courageous person who has not been pissed off, who will not come out from Syria, and always in the hottest places. But I’m afraid we will be blasted anyway.
      1. esaul
        3 May 2013 20: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: tttttt
        This is one of the few patriots of Russia in fact, a courageous person,

        Do not piss ... I give you a plus for mentioning the name Musin in this vein
  • 1goose3
    1goose3 3 May 2013 21: 15 New
    0
    Quote: patline
    Still, domestic and foreign policy should be carried out without looking back to the West - he wouldn’t have a price.


    Politics in this lies in a balanced attitude to any issue, taking into account the views of friends, enemies, just neighbors, etc. hi
  • 1goose3
    1goose3 3 May 2013 21: 23 New
    +1
    And what did you want and expect, gentlemen, good from the “wild” ruler of Russia, who at one time did not hesitate to go out alone with a pistol against a crowd of drunken German youths with the words: I am an officer. And I will do what I was taught - I will shoot ... I will leave the last bullet for myself ...

    To my shame, I did not know this fact in Putin's biography, although I am an ardent supporter of it. And now I'm just bursting with pride in my president.
  • avant-garde
    avant-garde 3 May 2013 21: 55 New
    0
    No one pleads with your merits, now the same decisiveness, be good in Syria ..., tell me that you have two cartridges, one for America and the other for the Russian people ..... the first is obviously fighting.
  • 1goose3
    1goose3 3 May 2013 22: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: avant-garde
    No one pleads with your merits, now the same decisiveness, be good in Syria ..., tell me that you have two cartridges, one for America and the other for the Russian people ..... the first is obviously fighting.


    What is he doing? Everyone knows Russia's position on Syria, and not one has yet decided to shoot a “bottle” in the back.
  • Tyumenka
    Tyumenka 3 May 2013 22: 39 New
    -1
    I AM Proud of my President! good
  • Stalinets
    Stalinets 5 May 2013 00: 30 New
    0
    I respect Russia is lucky! Good luck !!!!! good
  • Dmitry_2013
    Dmitry_2013 6 May 2013 14: 05 New
    0
    The video does not work (but the name of the video and the picture diverge, in the picture preceding the video Putin is the captain.