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"A military conflict with China is absolutely ruled out"

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Indian Foreign Minister Salman Khurshid paid a working visit to Moscow. The main event during the trip was his meeting with the Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, Dmitry Rogozin, co-chairman of the intergovernmental commission on trade, economic, scientific, technological and cultural cooperation. On the eve of the talks, SALMAN KHURSHID, co-chairman of the commission from the Indian side, spoke about promising projects of bilateral cooperation to Kommersant correspondent SERGEY STROKAN.


- Mr. Minister, this is your first visit to Russia. What do you expect from meetings in Moscow?

- There are deep, strong and extensive relations between Russia and India. The strategic partnership provides for holding annual meetings at the top, the content of which is provided by the Russian-Indian intergovernmental commission on trade, economic, scientific, technological and cultural cooperation. For the development of relations, it is necessary to do a huge amount of preparatory work on the whole range of issues. In particular, we intend to deal with this in Moscow.

“But lately, several irritants have arisen in our relations related to the delayed transfer of the aircraft carrier Vikramaditya to the Indian side, revocation of licenses from AFK Sistema in India, disagreements on nuclear cooperation within the framework of the Kudankulam NPP project. Can we say that in the relations of the two countries there are no problems?

- There are no problems where they do nothing. But as relations develop, inevitably questions arise that require a joint solution. We worked closely on issues that have been discussed in the press over the past year and which could be a source of concern. Today we have no feeling that there are problems that we cannot solve. We are waiting for the transfer of the aircraft carrier Vikramaditya to us. As for the Kudankulam NPP, final preparations are underway to launch its first power unit. The second power unit is ready for operation at 90%. In addition, negotiations are underway to build the third and fourth power units.

- In Russia today there are voices calling into question the tendering mechanism for concluding deals in the military-technical sphere. Critics talk about their opacity, the corruption component. Is it time to admit that tenders in the field of military-technical cooperation have become obsolete?

- In a free society there are always different opinions. Some of them are very superficial, some are infected with distrust and cynicism, so do not spend too much time discussing them.

But let me answer you on the merits. We in India, as we move towards a more open market economy, have accumulated great management experience. In the course of this process, a tendering mechanism was formed that implements the principle of free competition in obtaining government contracts.

In this case, the fate of a transaction must always be decided in a specific context. In some cases, transactions are concluded in the framework of direct interstate agreements, in others - on the basis of tenders. But I do not think that in the case of tenders for Russian companies in India any problems should arise. Many of them successfully participate in tenders.

- That is, interstate agreements can not replace tenders?

- There are strategic areas where interstate agreements are still important. But in open societies such as ours, it is important that there is transparency and public control provided by tenders.

- India offered Russia to take part in the implementation of the ambitious project for the construction of the Delhi-Mumbai industrial corridor. How important are Russian investments to you?

- The concept of the Delhi-Mumbai industrial corridor, in which Japan is largely involved, involves connecting many states to it. Implementation of the project by a single state is impossible, so we turned to Russia and we hope that it will respond. After all, Russia has a great experience in India.

- One of the key areas of cooperation is energy. India is seeking Russia's participation in the Sakhalin-3 project; in addition, ONGC Videsh Limited is interested in developing Siberian oil fields. How do you see the prospects for such cooperation?

- The details should be discussed by technical experts, but I can confirm: ONGC Videsh Limited is really interested in coming to Siberia and the Arctic. This is one of the promising areas of investment and cooperation.

- In recent weeks, relations between India and China have worsened due to a long-standing territorial dispute. The current situation is even compared with the year 1962, when an armed conflict broke out. How do you intend to solve the problem, given that Beijing is tough and does not intend to give in?

“I don’t think we should talk about it in terms of" softness "or" hardness. " This is a local, private matter that should not adversely affect the whole complex of Indian-Chinese relations. The differences are associated with different visions of the sides of the so-called Line of Control. So, being aware of the huge public attention to this issue, we should not artificially escalate the situation. The issue must be resolved through negotiations.

- So you exclude the possibility of armed conflict?

- Absolutely.
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  1. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 2 May 2013 16: 01 New
    -39
    Duc in India and China is about the same population, and the Russian Federation, the Chinese whales will simply crush meat.
    1. Regis
      Regis 2 May 2013 16: 10 New
      11
      Write nonsense, wars are not won that way.
    2. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 2 May 2013 17: 40 New
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      Quote: Krasnoyarets
      and the Russian Chinasians are simply crushing meat.


      Your knowledge of modern methods of war can only be compared with the knowledge of Polygraph Sharikov in the application of economic theories.
    3. Fregate
      Fregate 2 May 2013 18: 54 New
      -4
      Quote: Krasnoyarets
      Duc in India and China is about the same population, and the Russian Federation, the Chinese whales will simply crush meat.

      Do you think that the Yankees will calmly watch how China will try to grab our lands, which the Yankees themselves have laid eyes on? The same, I think fairly and vice versa.
      1. Genady1976
        Genady1976 2 May 2013 20: 05 New
        0
        soak any aggressor even China at least amers at least someone
        1. Su24
          Su24 3 May 2013 04: 47 New
          -1
          I don't think we should think about this in terms of "softness" or "hardness."


          ))))))) Advaita Vedanta as it is.
  2. Kaa
    Kaa 2 May 2013 16: 14 New
    24
    PAX AMERICANA's dreaded dream is the lack of territorial and other disputes between the India-China, India-Pakistan, China-Russia couples ... Half the world's population with half the economy (actually producing, not virtual breeding) and half the population - and all this against the unfortunate United States Ameroevrope!
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 2 May 2013 16: 18 New
      +5
      Quote: Kaa
      lack of territorial and other disputes between pairs India-China, India-Pakistan, China-Russia ..
      Then the old woman Europe will look at herself and exclaim: How small I am belay !!!
      1. Kaa
        Kaa 2 May 2013 16: 29 New
        17
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        I'm so little
        Just like the Red Pashechka (pro-European) and the Gray Wolf (BRICS). This is what the Gray BRICS says: "Well, what a Hat, choose a merger or takeover?" laughing
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 2 May 2013 16: 37 New
          +1
          Yes, really ..... with a dog’s digestion, everything’s fine .. surely there are teeth wassat
        2. Atlon
          Atlon 2 May 2013 16: 38 New
          +3
          Quote: Kaa
          "Well, what Cap, choose, merger or acquisition?"

          Are you talking about merging in erotic ecstasy? laughing I'm afraid the geyropa has already forgotten what it is. And here we merge with amateurs, like ... wink
        3. Consul-t
          Consul-t 2 May 2013 19: 58 New
          -1
          And Little Red Riding Hood and says: - Why should I be afraid? Forest I know, Cupcake love ...
          1. smile
            smile 2 May 2013 20: 23 New
            -1
            Consul-t
            And among German wolves there are terrible tales about the forest Valkyrie ... a hefty babushka with long hairy hands ... walks in a red wolf hat ... meat outside ... no one else lives in that forest ... only sometimes in guests, one Russian arrives ... also in a hat ... hare ... every day is new .... well, what is the name, I think, have already guessed ... :))))
            1. Civil
              Civil 2 May 2013 23: 11 New
              -3
              Europe together with Russia 2 world wars destroyed their future ...
            2. smile
              smile 3 May 2013 00: 33 New
              0
              Well, damn it, you have humor ... and if there is ... then where? ... although, of course, what kind of humor is it ..... if there are crocodiles around ..... :)))))
    2. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 3 May 2013 10: 10 New
      0
      "PAX AMERICANA's sleepy dream - the absence of territorial and other disputes between the pairs India-China, India-Pakistan, China-Russia ... Half of the world's population with half of the economy (actually producing, not virtually breeding)"
      - What a wonderful dream, and what is really being done so that our economy and army could be put on a par with the Chinese? Well, the USSR also made such a backlog in the defense industry that we are still leaving it.
      And in order to equate itself with China, it is necessary to begin to shoot at the stadiums to start corrupt officials and restore order in the country. Do you really think that the Chinese will seriously agree on something with a handful of crooks that rule our country, storing the whole economy stolen in Cyprus or with the country which is offshore?
  3. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 2 May 2013 16: 24 New
    +8
    In general, Indians cannot be envied: their country is squeezed between Pakistan and China, and border wars have recently fought with both countries, the consequences of which are still affecting politics, culture, and most importantly, the economy. Until finally territorial disputes subside either of interethnic roads, pipelines, etc., in principle, cannot be.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 2 May 2013 16: 31 New
      +5
      They still have a whole ocean fellow No wonder that Indian is called.
      1. FC SKIF
        FC SKIF 2 May 2013 18: 04 New
        +1
        Plusanul for the pun. But nothing that Vladivostok is on the Sea of ​​Japan?
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 2 May 2013 18: 24 New
          +1
          Here you are right! When the Russian Cossacks reached the sea, only the Japanese sailed there. Ours and the ships didn’t have crying But the Cossacks really liked it, they settled these lands and now only Russian ships guard the waters around. And from the Japanese, as they say, one name remains laughing
          1. DeerIvanovich
            DeerIvanovich 2 May 2013 23: 48 New
            +1
            Well, actually, basically the Ainu swam ...
            Japs south
        2. Rustiger
          Rustiger 3 May 2013 01: 25 New
          -1
          Quote: FC Skif
          But nothing that Vladivostok is on the Sea of ​​Japan?

          Woo where fantasies have taken us. . . laughing
          Let's continue. Mexico has the Gulf of Mexico (all), Israel has the Dead Sea. . . fellow
          Next one. . . tongue
          1. nmd_1
            nmd_1 3 May 2013 04: 09 New
            +3
            Strait of Tatar - Tatars, Atlantic Ocean - Atlantes laughing Golden Horn Bay - to all "cuckolds" laughing
          2. Strezhevchanin
            Strezhevchanin 3 May 2013 07: 51 New
            +1
            Quote: Rustiger
            Israel - Dead Sea

            There is no mistake! The stillborn state and the sea are dead am
  4. Tartary
    Tartary 2 May 2013 16: 32 New
    +2
    Judging by the latest studies of geneticists, Indians, like us, are direct descendants of the Tartaria or Hyperboreans, however you want ... In Japan, the descendants of the Ainu are in power - s-Amur Ain ...
    China has nowhere to go, only to be friends ... Otherwise - a hammer and an anvil, and this is a bad prospect ...
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 2 May 2013 16: 49 New
      +9
      China's problems are not with the Ainu and the Hyperboreans, but with the United States.
      China may one of these days be the first economy in the world, but this is not included in American plans.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 4 May 2013 07: 58 New
        0
        The USA is the main market for China, do you not know?
    2. smile
      smile 2 May 2013 20: 50 New
      +3
      Tartary
      Well, I won’t talk about tartaria, you’re biased, judging by the nickname:)))) ... you’ll beat me again ... but about the Ainu people it’s a beautiful fairy tale ... but it’s wrong ... 1.Ayns for several centuries of endless war were wiped off the face of the earth ... a little bit on the islands remained on Sakhalin ..
      2.Ayns belong to a different language group, to a different, Europioid race ...
      3. to say that in an absolutely xenophobic environment of samurai, in comparison with which the SS children are ainu ... sir, so to speak, unreasonable ... we must not know them at all ...
      4 .... samurai is a Japanese term ... originated before we called Cupid Cupid ... which the Chinese also call differently ... they even call the Ainu differently ... 5. particles "c" with a similar sound there is neither in hiragana nor in katakana ... they generally have word formation according to a different principle ... so that your decoding, although fun, is still not worth taking seriously ...
      1. DeerIvanovich
        DeerIvanovich 2 May 2013 23: 57 New
        -1
        1. In general, the Ainu were subjected to strict assimilation in two stages: after the Russo-Japanese war, and since the Second World War until now.
        2.As for the language, I would like to see a link to the material with which you gained this knowledge.

        regarding appearance: a lot of historical figures described the Ainu and not fairy tales: and wrote that they were more Russian peasants than Japanese Koreans.
        for example, Lisyansky and Kruzenshtern, captains of the first official circumnavigation of the Russian Empire, wrote about this.
        In general, the Japanese are descendants of Okinawa residents and the waves of Korean settlers, and partly the northern lands of the original Ainu: Hokkaido and the Kuriles ...
        3, 4, 5, I would also like to see scientific papers. or at least authors who bothered to create works on these topics
        1. smile
          smile 3 May 2013 01: 33 New
          0
          DeerIvanovich
          Hello .... you called strict assimilation ... this .. hard depopulation ... centuries-old ... total ... co
        2. smile
          smile 3 May 2013 02: 19 New
          0
          DeerIvanovich

          let me answer you tomorrow ... I wrote a comment twice, but there remained a stub with the word error ... and a polar fox .... but I wrote about that. that I’ve been talking with a Japanese woman for 10 years ... it’s probable ... I hope so ... this is a family ... Miko is a clever girl even by the standards of Russian women ... well, I learned most of the knowledge about Japan and their customs from her and communicating with her relatives ...
        3. smile
          smile 3 May 2013 03: 53 New
          +1
          DeerIvanovich

          By 1905, the miserable remnants of the Ainus survived. survivors of a centuries-old war of annihilation .... the war ended long ago because the Ainu ended ... the Japanese simply seemed bigger if they were stronger. then the war would be shorter ...

          I can’t give you links in view of that. that I made an opinion out of links ... nevertheless, there are people based on the opinion and knowledge of whom I made up my mind, and who in this case I believe more than my senses ... my possible wife and her Japanese relatives ... and if we discard the big words .... we’ll figure it out .. I’m really getting married, after ten years of talking with Miko ..... you’d better rather than criticize ... and anyway, Japanese dogs with our dogs a common language can only be found after receiving from our neck ... :)))
          1. nmd_1
            nmd_1 3 May 2013 04: 14 New
            +1
            Every night you wake up to avenge the Kuril Islands, Kunashir and Iturup, so look, is it worth it !? wink
            1. smile
              smile 3 May 2013 18: 26 New
              0
              nmd_
              :))) But the devil knows whether it costs ... 10 years is quite a long time ... but he deftly dodges the island theme with unprecedented skill:))) ... believes that the country that is stronger is right ... we are stronger, here are the islands and ours ... Russia is very respected, it knows more about our culture than I, sinful, but most of all - for strength. He despises Americans, doesn’t perceive Europeans at all ... they amuse her .... but. well done, convinced that the Japanese are still the coolest of all ... :)))
          2. Rustiger
            Rustiger 3 May 2013 19: 58 New
            +1
            Quote: smile
            I can not give you links

            And I can. Here's a pity -

            http://roouh.livejournal.com/26305.html
            Ainu


            And here is Ainu in a photograph from 1904. If someone showed me this photo and said that they were native Japanese, I would laugh, because in the photo there are some Ryazan Old Believers in Tatar robes:

            In Japan, work has been done that allows us to hope that genetics are able to solve the question of who are the ancestors of the Japanese. Along with the Japanese living in the central islands of Honshu, Shikoku and Kyushu, anthropologists distinguish two more modern ethnic groups: Ainu from Hokkaido in the north and Ryukyu people living mainly on the southernmost island of 0kinawa.

            One theory is that these two groups, the Ainu and the Ryukyuites, are descendants of the first Yomon settlers who once occupied all of Japan, and were later driven out of the central islands to the north by Hokkaido and south by Okinawa by the youi from Korea.

            A study of mitochondrial DNA in Japan only partially confirms this hypothesis: it showed that modern Japanese from the central islands have a lot in common with modern Koreans, with whom they have much more identical and similar mitochondrial types than with Ainu and rukuytsami.
          3. DeerIvanovich
            DeerIvanovich 3 May 2013 23: 22 New
            0
            judging by how recently a Japanese woman of model appearance, in an interview with the Russian channel to the question of what she knows about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, could not answer anything ...
            tell me how old your acquaintance is and how much she showed interest in history in general. and also tell me which of the 4 islands it is from.
            and even more so, my words about harsh assimilation related to the new time, and not to the earlier one.
            for before the beginning of the 20th century, Ainu as a people were still there, but after ... there were very few of them left, and even then the bulk of them already consider themselves Japanese.

            For the first time I read about Ainu in one book in childhood, I was interested in the fact that Ainu were described as Russian peasants. since then I got acquainted with the material in more detail.

            Read at least the memoirs of Kruzenshtern and Lisyansky, I recall their circumnavigation in the early 19th century. And the first official visit was made to Japan to their emperor.

            Yes, and remember the story of the Japanese is distorted, as for example some today are trying to attribute to Stalin the destruction of millions before the war in repression.
            But the official figure is about 700000 convicted, but not executed.
            1. smile
              smile 4 May 2013 04: 16 New
              0
              DeerIvanovich

              Kyushu ... Oita ... the south of Nihon ... 36 years old ... manager ..... in the history of universal, next to zero .. in Russian literature, next to the ideal ..... but compared to others experts .... luminaries .... looks, you don’t understand, or 40, or 20 ... believes that he knows the story .. the stereotypes are correct, we would all think so ... it’s impossible to argue because clever, .. half of her relatives (all whom he saw) lives in Russia .... here they are, being purely non-Russian in history, are corrosive and have influenced me in this regard to the greatest extent ...... Russian patriots .... I learned the beginnings of Japanese word-formation .... but in view of my natural stupidity I see, I’ll never master .... the little man about Ainu-an array of information for a couple of decades ... there .. yum ... general opinion .... do not shoot pianmsta. he plays. as he can ... :)))
              I’ll add, despite the slander of their press ... according to Masha, the Japanese respect us very much ... although not everyone loves us ..... the Varyag’s feat is being questioned ... there, Shirokorad criticizes ... and the Japanese there are no questions, hero. true samurai .... generally doubles their frequent links to ours ..... you see, we still impressed the nature of the absolutely inhuman Japanese people ... :))))
              1. smile
                smile 4 May 2013 05: 15 New
                0
                I will add, I do not consider them bad .... they are kind and very polite .... only their psychology is brutal ... our Nokhchi will smoke .... the costs of upbringing ..... to my banter, they say you are syakaya, me and my beloved "excuse me" -bite out the eye, laughs, -you, cat-eyed, peaceful such, were able to take control of 20% of the land ... and we, the poor, to drive back to the islands ..... they say we stand .... well, you must admit ... everyone would think so ...
                1. smile
                  smile 4 May 2013 06: 50 New
                  0
                  looked in in hope. what answer, the topic is close to me ... they did not answer ... I will add ... Masha's knowledge of history as a whole ... by our standards, -0 ... but when she speaks absolutely academic, for example, about the Japanese invasions of Korea at 15 -16 centuries, the reasons for the failure of their expansion on the continent, the defeat of the Japanese by the harsh Korean naval commanders in the 17th century ... you understand that our knowledge of the history of that too ... is imperfect ... you know about the battles of the Korean and Japanese fleets (by numbers not inferior to the largest European) in the 17th century? I - no ... she told me about the great Vietnamese civilization ... very militant ... no less significant than the Korean ... Masha has enough reason to consider me ignorant of history, to the same extent as me-her ... this is me about "0" in history ... our history ... here is such a double-edged thing, an assessment of knowledge in the history of our neighbors ...
                  1. DeerIvanovich
                    DeerIvanovich 13 May 2013 13: 59 New
                    0
                    in this aspect you are right. but with Ainu she nevertheless bent.
                    before did not answer - flew out of my head, May - after all.
        4. Strezhevchanin
          Strezhevchanin 3 May 2013 08: 06 New
          +1
          The question is still hi It is worth digging, a very interesting picture is obtained.
          You can get acquainted with the white man’s resettlement routes, confirmed by numerous historical evidence, such as the facts of the existence of the Slavs in North India (among the higher castes among the Brahmins), the ancient Ainu in Japan, the “White Gods” of China, the Slavs in Pakistan - Kalash ( about 6 thousand people) who live there to this day in several settlements lying next to each other on the border with Afghanistan. This nation was able to survive in conditions of isolation on all sides by neighbors who are not racially, culturally and religiously identical. Unlike the titular peoples of Pakistan
  5. okean969
    okean969 2 May 2013 16: 33 New
    +3
    China will no longer be able to crush it with "meat" (as in the case of the DPRK against South Korea). The presence of Ya. O. deprives this trump card.
    1. patsantre
      patsantre 2 May 2013 16: 50 New
      +3
      Even without nuclear weapons, meat has not solved anything for a long time.
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 2 May 2013 20: 04 New
        -3
        Quote: patsantre
        Even without nuclear weapons, meat has not solved anything for a long time.


        Tell this to the Romans, they will laugh together with the Huns.
    2. self-propelled
      self-propelled 2 May 2013 18: 05 New
      +3
      Quote: okean969
      The presence of Y. O. deprives this trump card

      at the moment, neither China, nor India, nor Russia needs an armed conflict. and the point here is not the presence of nuclear weapons. war for any of these states is a huge material loss, so to say weakening. but it’s impossible to be weak now - they’ll eat it.
  6. MG42
    MG42 2 May 2013 16: 44 New
    +5
    According to forecasts, the population of India will overtake the population of China, the only question is when some say that by 2025. In China, there is a limit of 1 family = one child, in order to restrain, there will not be enough rice to feed. There are always theoretical prerequisites for war, but India and China possess nuclear weapons = this is a deterrent, that India still has an enemy Pakistan, that China has many “friends”, the first is Japan.
    1. DeerIvanovich
      DeerIvanovich 2 May 2013 23: 58 New
      0
      the restriction is already being removed
  7. old rocket man
    old rocket man 2 May 2013 16: 53 New
    +8
    Quote: Krasnoyarets
    I, and the Russian Chinasias are simply crushed with meat


    When there is a lot of vodka, meat does not solve anything.
    There will be just a lot of stuffing, in the end.
  8. Tartary
    Tartary 2 May 2013 16: 57 New
    +5
    Quote: APASUS
    China's problems are not with the Ainu and the Hyperboreans, but with the United States.
    China may one of these days be the first economy in the world, but this is not included in American plans.

    Today I hooked the Russian-speaking forum in the USA, so there specific experts sit and hammer in the neo-Americans brain ...
    Especially there he smiled at the question of whether Russia has a sufficient number of carriers of strategic nuclear weapons ...
    There, one degradant in general does not consider Russia as one of the two most powerful nuclear powers - writes about Iran. North Korea, India ... And in Russia, twittering is a lack of media - stubborn like an American ram. fool

    By the way, today in one topic there was a question about links - please, who cares - http://www.rususa.com/forum/forum.asp-forumid-55
    1. Kaa
      Kaa 2 May 2013 17: 09 New
      +6
      Quote: Tartary
      stubborn as an American ram.
      The only question is why HOW? What is America, what is Europe - two of the world - one way of thinking.
    2. smile
      smile 2 May 2013 21: 05 New
      0
      Tartary
      Thank you Interesting.

      All the same, American sheep, the most sheep on the planet ... or American ... which, however, is the same ... :)))))
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 3 May 2013 20: 44 New
      0
      Quote: Tartary
      in the USA, so there specific specialists sit and hammer in the neo-Americans brain ...

      Do not clog your brain.
      Sometimes I try to translate news from http://www.foxnews.com/ there’s a tin! That’s not an article, so we are in jo ...
  9. erased
    erased 2 May 2013 17: 02 New
    +4
    Here we have such confidence! But China is already operating and occupying the territory of the Russian Federation. So far, peacefully. But if this is stopped, it will go to the military.
    1. does it
      does it 2 May 2013 17: 20 New
      0
      Quote: erased
      Here we have such confidence! But China is already operating and occupying the territory of the Russian Federation. So far, peacefully. But if this is stopped, it will go to the military.

      rather peacefully ...
  10. WW3
    WW3 2 May 2013 17: 28 New
    +4
    Quote: FC Skif
    Until finally territorial disputes subside either of interethnic roads, pipelines, etc., in principle, cannot be.
    How can they calm down there the state of Kashmir the controversial armed conflict was as early as 1947, 1965, 1971. and the problem has not yet been solved, and nuclear weapons of India are precisely opposed to nuclear weapons of Pakistan.
    Quote: FC Skif
    In general, you will not envy the Indians: their country is sandwiched between Pakistan and China

    Here Pakistan is the logical ally of China against India.
    1. smile
      smile 2 May 2013 21: 07 New
      +1
      WW3
      The Hindu speaks correctly ... in the diplomatic language - what else can he say ... truth cannot be ... not accepted ... :))))
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  12. Asgard
    Asgard 2 May 2013 17: 38 New
    -1
    China is being raised, not for India and Pakistan, not against Japan and the United States ...
    China is growing against Russia. It is growing by leaps and bounds, drawing technological and financial support from the Anglo-Saxons ....
    So we'll have to work with this "meat"))) The Russian people ...
    the government has long been pursuing a policy of reducing its presence in Siberia and the Far East, there are practically no troops there ??? territories in the Amur region are being surrendered, a law on the State Corporation for the development of Shtat in Siberia and the Far East is being prepared behind the scenes))) in which only the sale of land is directly lead military operations))) and the main in this corporation will be the President of the Russian Federation VVPutin, the national "leader" though he will have to go to pray at the Wailing Wall again ...
    Based on all the above, we conclude that the habadniks are already in the PDA ....
    and not only in the Administration of the President of the Russian Federation))))
    1. Tartary
      Tartary 2 May 2013 18: 00 New
      0
      Quote: Asgard
      the government has long been pursuing a policy of reducing its presence in Siberia and the Far East, there are practically no troops there ??? territories in the Amur region are being surrendered, a law on the State Corporation for the development of Shtat in Siberia and the Far East is being prepared behind the scenes))) in which only the sale of land is directly lead military operations))) and the main in this corporation will be the President of the Russian Federation VVPutin, the national "leader" though he will have to go to pray at the Wailing Wall again ...

      Ah, colleague ... We are still here and the equipment, and the troops are ... Only withdrawn from both sides for 200 km., And where further from the borders on both sides - and this only improves the conditions of guarantees on both sides about the impossibility of a surprise attack ...
      Plus NWF / TNW ... Plus, special conditions for the existence of artificial reservoirs on the territory of China, the water of which can immediately wash away the entire coast of developed China, by simply destroying the dams ...
      Plus, very difficult geographical conditions for large-scale military operations in the territory of the Russian Far East ...
      In short, China will not trample.
      1. individual
        individual 2 May 2013 18: 34 New
        +4
        Quote from Tartaria:
        In short, China will not trample.


        How to say, after all, in the declarative declarations of China in 1969, claims were claimed to the Amur Region. and the territory of the Primorsky Territory.
    2. Retx
      Retx 2 May 2013 21: 22 New
      0
      We spread the troops with the Chinese (in 91 there wasn’t anything fighting at all there) - their borders from the north were covered by us, and our Far East was calm. Their goal is MOT, and our former republics of the USSR.
  13. orff
    orff 2 May 2013 17: 43 New
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    Since the end of 2012, India has been an observer in the organization of the SCO. The main objectives of the organization are proclaimed the strengthening of stability and security in a wide space uniting the participating states, the fight against terrorism, separatism, extremism, drug trafficking, the development of economic cooperation, energy partnerships, scientific and cultural interaction. The Uyghur problem between India and China really prevents us from building equal relations between Russia, India and China.
    Absolutely ALL smoldering territorial conflicts support the Anglo-Saxons. That would be to find a territorial good neighborly understanding without the participation of peacekeepers such as the United States and small-shavens. Then BRIC and SCO will gain unprecedented authority in the world!
  14. Vtel
    Vtel 2 May 2013 17: 53 New
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    In Russia today voices are heard casting doubt on the mechanism of tenders for concluding deals in the military-technical sphere. Critics speak of their opacity, a corruption component. Is it not time to admit that tenders in the field of military-technical cooperation have become obsolete?

    Yes, the Indians can also be understood when our authorities "shoe" their people and the army, with the help of the Serdyukovs and their protégés, they can squint at this, but as the saying goes: "Money in the evening chairs in the morning. Is it possible the other way around? ... You can, but money in advance ".
  15. newcomer
    newcomer 2 May 2013 20: 55 New
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    our "brilliant strategists", as always, think globally on the topic: who will fight with whom, but for now we will be wisely looking around the corner ... I remember before World War II something similar happened - they kissed the Nazis and sang songs about the fact that the Russian and the German are brothers forever, and rejoiced like children when the bourgeoisie and the Nazis beat each other ... and a year later they themselves "shook it off" so that we still cannot come to our senses ...
    1. smile
      smile 2 May 2013 21: 13 New
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      newcomer
      Well, unlike those. who gave birth to the Nazis we weren’t friends for a long time ... armed neutrality - there was cooperation without lifting our hands from the kobyra - there was, but there wasn’t a blow, there wasn’t same-sex love, where Germany was a boy, and the European powers with a union, girls and those who gave birth it is a monster ... there were joint tearing of the lamb - Czechoslovakia, Austria, Spain and eating goats - Poland ... so that you have some kind of distorted view of the situation .... from below ... :))))
  16. uzer 13
    uzer 13 2 May 2013 23: 43 New
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    "A military conflict with China is absolutely out of the question," but inevitable, like the collapse of capitalism.
  17. studentmati
    studentmati 3 May 2013 00: 02 New
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    Relations between China, India and Russia (I deliberately do not put punctuation marks) in all possible combinations have long crossed the line of military conflicts. The era of "peaceful aggression" has come ...
    1. uzer 13
      uzer 13 3 May 2013 00: 19 New
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      On cards issued in China, Siberia is designated as temporarily lost territory.
  18. DeerIvanovich
    DeerIvanovich 3 May 2013 00: 03 New
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    do not forget that the southeast rate of the Rothschilds ...
  19. gregor6549
    gregor6549 3 May 2013 05: 38 New
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    Why India to China? She and her beggars have nowhere to go. But in Russia chop off a piece fatter Kitaky never refused and will not refuse. And not necessarily by military means. China has long been conquering the world in peace. And quite successfully. And at the same time I’m ready to bang my fist on the table, if necessary. But he has someone to bang and with what. So the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of India is right, and India is pursuing its policy so as to avoid any conflicts. And in the name of this policy, I am ready to maintain normal relations with all neighbors. Even with Pakistan. But again, every fireman is trying to equip his aircraft with the latest technology. Within the framework, of course, of their financial and other capabilities, it turns out that this is not always successful, but they try
  20. avant-garde
    avant-garde 3 May 2013 07: 23 New
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    folk wisdom: never say no when!
  21. Rodriques
    Rodriques 3 May 2013 10: 28 New
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    I recalled here one incident in my life, like a friend brought me to a grandmother, she had everything bad in his life, she decided to find out what he would have next, so she told him that after a big war with narrow-eyed he would survive and only then there would be a lot happiness in his life, he himself is also a military man. And yes, she also said that after that war there was fire everywhere and nothing elselol wink
    Sits now on the pope exactly, waiting for when? soldier laughing
  22. Rodriques
    Rodriques 3 May 2013 11: 10 New
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    Minus-dealer, what's so evil in the morning?) If on the subject, then our strategists and intelligence will find China the easiest way to calculate before the start of the database, since they have a rather archaic army of the old model, there will be a "threatened period" unambiguously. Unlike NATO, those from behind will suddenly strike.
  23. dmi32167
    dmi32167 3 May 2013 12: 09 New
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    Quote: Rodriques
    Minus-dealer, what's so evil in the morning?) If on the subject, then our strategists and intelligence will find China the easiest way to calculate before the start of the database, since they have a rather archaic army of the old model, there will be a "threatened period" unambiguously. Unlike NATO, those from behind will suddenly strike.

    Yeah, China has commissioned 2/3 of its ships over the past 10 years, and it also wants to play AUG for itself. how it will float on them across all Siberia, how it will float into the mask ... I will definitely die at the sight of such an oil painting: Rodriques "aircraft carriers have sailed" .....
    1. Rodriques
      Rodriques 3 May 2013 12: 28 New
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      Hmm ... and what did you mean by that? I could not cling to your thought.
  24. Pimply
    Pimply 4 May 2013 07: 57 New
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    I wonder what else the diplomat had to answer? Given the fact that there have already been conflicts, and recently in the doctrine of military India, China has become a main enemy of Pakistan