Launched fifth dolphin class submarine for the Israeli Navy.

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April 29 (TKMS) in Kiel (Germany) at the Thyssen-Krupp Marine Systems shipyard held the inauguration ceremony (launching and consecration) of the fifth submarine of the class Dolphin for the Israeli naval forces capable of carrying nuclear weaponreports defensenews.com.

INS Rahav, the fifth of six submarines ordered, was built in Germany with financial assistance from the German government and is expected to arrive in Israel next year after running trials and testing the integration of weapons systems.

In May last year, the inauguration ceremony was held for the fourth submarine of the Dolphin class, INS Tanin, which is scheduled for operational deployment in the coming months.

INS Rahav, as well as the sixth submarine, currently under construction at the TKMS shipyard, is equipped with an air-independent power plant (AIP), which will increase the diving range and autonomy.

By the middle of 2017, the Israeli navy should have fully operational strategic submarines.

Dolphin-class submarines of the Israeli Navy are the product of a twenty-year strategic cooperation program between Israel and Germany. Submarines built in Germany in accordance with Israeli requirements are equipped with Israeli-developed combat command and control systems, which include, according to foreign media, the use of cruise missiles capable of carrying tactical nuclear warheads.

The construction of the first two submarines was fully financed by Germany, the third - by half, the fourth and fifth submarines - by one third. The contract for the construction of the sixth submarine class Dolphin was concluded last year. The amount of the transaction is more than 600 million euros, of which Berlin is ready to allocate 135 million euros (175,8 million dollars).

The INS Rahav launch ceremony was attended by the Israeli Defense Ministry’s Director General Udi Shani, the Israeli Navy Commander, Vice Admiral Ram Rothberg, and German colleagues.

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  1. +6
    April 30 2013 11: 16
    Well, the face of the second from the right, as if the day before the photo he was jammed well.
    1. +7
      April 30 2013 11: 22
      So you can live, the Americans provide money rain, the Germans push the boat. And what to do - this outpost is very important for them, you have to find funds.
      1. -3
        April 30 2013 13: 07
        Well, relative rain, was provided by the abandonment of a territory the size of today's Israel, rich in oil, gas, natural resources, with access to the Red Sea, with a resort area, etc. Do not know? And military assistance has a number of significant limitations. Egypt, for receiving the same territory, receives not much less money.

        Basically, American assistance is loans and guarantees.

        The Germans customize the boats, too, do not live well. The first three were obtained on preferential terms after it became clear the scale of cooperation between German companies and Saddam, who in 1991 bombarded Israel with sakades. Current boats are already sailing under different conditions.
    2. OTAKE
      +9
      April 30 2013 11: 28
      Quote: Check
      Well, the face of the second from the right, as if the day before the photo he was jammed well.

      Second right is Winnie Jones!)) Or Tony - Bullet in his teeth)
      1. Rustiger
        +2
        April 30 2013 15: 31
        Quote: OTAKE
        Second right is Vinnie Jones!

        laughing laughing Yeah ha ha But for sure. . .
        Father, my friend Vinnie, how have you changed!
        Did your mother tell you not to mess with javra? stop
        They will not bring to good. Now they’ll take a boat ride.
        Climb themselves Into the boatand you will go On the boat. wassat
    3. Kuzkin Batyan
      +1
      April 30 2013 12: 06
      I ate vodka. Nosy love her too, I know friends moved there and live)))
      1. GG2012
        -1
        1 May 2013 02: 09
        Quote: Kuzkin Batyan
        Nosy love her too

        On all the pics ... the nosed goblins from the Judean ...
        The Rabbis seem to clone goblins ...
    4. +6
      April 30 2013 12: 20
      Quote: Check
      Well, the face of the second from the right, as if the day before the photo he was jammed well.


      Probably from our emigrants, at first they fermented the night, then they fought with the Germans, well, and then the ceremonial events are all like people


    5. Kuzkin Batyan
      +2
      April 30 2013 13: 07
      In the first photo, the nose on the right too was not sober yesterday. )))
  2. avt
    +10
    April 30 2013 11: 20
    "The Israeli Navy's Dolphin-class submarines are the product of a two-decade strategic cooperation program between Israel and Germany." -------- laughing Do we now have reparations cooperation, and even strategic ones?
    1. +6
      April 30 2013 11: 37
      Wow, will Professor with Atalef appear?
      Annealed to the fullest. Surely at the reception of the submarines were present. laughing
      1. Rustiger
        +8
        April 30 2013 11: 54
        Quote: mhpv
        Wow, will Professor with Atalef appear?

        While they were quiet. ... ... They are waiting and "eavesdropping." ... ... But Aaronchik who is Zawi will start.
        He will be dumber in their kibbutz. So they will be "donated" as the least valuable specimen laughing
        Everything is in accordance with the historical events of the Rothschild-Hitler-Holocaust; "Prokhvesir-article-Aron... wassat
        1. +1
          April 30 2013 12: 19
          Quote: Rustiger
          While calmed down. . .

          Probably getting ready for the May holidays!
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          1. TUMAN
            +2
            1 May 2013 18: 35
            Quote: Orakul2000
            Well, how low are you still ready to lower yourself? Your post does not make you witty or smart at all. Unterments!

            Are you handsome, do you already see yourself as the highest being?
            1. +2
              1 May 2013 23: 26
              Fog, believe me, I’m not trying to ascend over anyone, but I have holy things (such as the memory of innocently killed by the Nazis in VO) that are for me a red line that I will never cross. I myself have people who die in my family in the Holocaust and those who fought in the ranks of the SA from the first day to the last and in which all the breasts are in orders, including the Order of Glory and for Courage. But at the same time, I don’t shout about their exclusivity, that the USSR having lost more than 40 million people, specially overstating the figures or talking about it to show everyone and what incredible sacrifices the USSR suffered to crush the fascist reptile. I deeply honor and bow to the people who went through, worthily outlived it and before those who laid their heads did not become a traitor and drank their bitter cup with honor! It infuriates me wildly when people sit like that like a Russtiger, who has no conspiracy theories about the Holocaust, who have no knowledge of that war, no conscience, no respect for the fallen, full of dumb hypocrisy. A man who has lost shame, conscience and so on. in my understanding, subhuman, as in the Nazis and their support.
              Sincerely,
              Boris.
              1. TUMAN
                +2
                2 May 2013 00: 16
                Quote: Orakul2000
                Fog, believe me, I'm not trying to ascend over someone

                Judging by the fascist rhetoric with the Untermenschs, you did just that.
                Quote: Orakul2000
                but I have holy things (such as the memory of innocently killed by the Nazis in VO) that are a red line for me that I will never cross. I have in my family there are people who died both in the Holocaust and who fought in a number of SA from the first day to the latter and in which all breasts are in orders, among which are the orders of Glory and for Courage.

                And I have holy things. My grandfather and his brothers went through the whole war, have orders and medals, my grandfather has the Order of the Patriotic War of the first degree (I can prove it is on the site of the feat of the people), his relative died in Poland as a Hero of the USSR. I also have relatives who suffered from the repressions, and the Jews carried out these repressions in the Vinnitsa region in commissar cloaks.
                Quote: Orakul2000
                But at the same time, I don’t shout about their exclusivity, that the USSR having lost more than 40 million people, specifically overestimating the numbers or talking about it to show everyone and all what incredible victims the USSR suffered to crush the fascist reptile.

                You personally may not yell, but your blood brothers also make money on this. Despite the fact that many more Slavs died, and not only the Slavs, but you call us here Untermenschs, and brought me some strange arguments to justify them. And I know Rustaiger, a very worthy person! Maybe you should try to find a reason in yourself? Why is your brother so disliked? Ask yourself this question, and honestly answer. (After all, you draw conclusions for yourself, it might come in handy)
                Quote: Orakul2000
                It infuriates me wildly when people sit like that like a Russtayger, who has no knowledge of that war, no conscience, no respect for the fallen, full of dumb hypocrisy

                Believe me, it wildly infuriates me when they sit down under the Israeli flag and blaspheme my people, my country, they call my relatives Untermens and goyim, they hypocritically distort the facts, find fault with everything that my country produces! Here it is!
                With respect!
                1. +1
                  2 May 2013 00: 38
                  We get what we are supposed to receive, since everything except the murdered, there is also a huge amount of confiscated by the Nazis expropriated from Jews living in Europe. The Soviet Union also received a huge indemnity from Germany, another thing is that in the USSR this money was not paid to the victims of that war, but this was already a decision of the government. You still say that many more Slavs than Jews died, and I will say that this is absolute truth, but there are only 14-15 million Jews in the world, of which 6 mln were destroyed by the Nazis, this is almost half the nation, so think about why this is for us such an unhealed wound. In general, making a blood count is disgusting and unworthy, The main thing is that our Great Ancestors, in front of whom I think our generation is just weak dwarfs, broke the Ridge of a fascist monster. My personal opinion is that Russia should also ask Germany for pensions and benefits for everyone who suffered one way or another in that war, I suspect the one hundred economic situation of the war veterans is not very strong. The fact that this is not being done is a question of some, is not a question of GDP.
                  On the occasion of the reproach of your country and people, would I be infinitely grateful to you for concrete examples about it, only without breaking it out of context?
                  Sincerely,
                  Boris.
                  1. TUMAN
                    -2
                    2 May 2013 01: 00
                    Quote: Orakul2000
                    We get what we are supposed to receive, since everything except the murdered, there is also a huge amount of confiscated by the Nazis expropriated from Jews living in Europe.

                    Have you ever thought that the German people are also a victim of fascism?
                    Quote: Orakul2000
                    My personal opinion is that Russia should also ask Germany for pensions and benefits for everyone who suffered in one way or another in that war, I suspect the one hundred economic situation of the war veterans is not very strong.

                    So already asked once! And we fed the Germans, and helped rebuild Germany. And you only want to ask and ask. We (Jews and Slavs) are really different!

                    Quote: Orakul2000
                    On the occasion of the reproach of your country and people, would I be infinitely grateful to you for concrete examples about it, only without breaking it out of context?

                    Be patient a little, in a couple of days you will see for yourself.
                    With respect!
                    1. -2
                      2 May 2013 01: 33
                      You know in the books of our sages it is said that "Man is the whole world, who saved one man saved the whole world !!" You say that the people of Germany also suffered, and I agree with you again, but let's watch the German cinema chronicle from 32 to 42. As the saying goes, what you sow is what you reap, you knew who you chose. You say you helped the Germans to rebuild Germany, and so on. All this is glorious, but my opinion is that 40 million lost worlds and it is not yet known how many crippled are worth what the Germans, but the Germans, who themselves at one time chose and welcomed the Possessed Adolf, should pay for this until the end of their days, and it is unnecessary to expose yourself to the Holy Pope Roman, look how the veteran of the Wehrmacht in Germany and the veteran of the Red Army of the victor lives today, and those who do not have knowledge of this war will have confusion about who defeated whom, so the burgher lives very sweetly, Our Warrior is hefty bitter, many of them are not able to heal normally, many live from hand to mouth. As we treat our old people, so will our children treat us, and if a shameless generation grows up, a generation without memory, then it is better not to live to see this at all. By the way, look at today's youth, they are taking great strides in this scary direction!
                      Sincerely,
                      Boris
                      1. TUMAN
                        +1
                        2 May 2013 01: 55
                        Quote: Orakul2000
                        You know in the books of our sages it is said that "Man is the whole world, who saved one man saved the whole world !!"

                        Yes, the books of your sages are something! I especially like the "protocols of the Elders of Zion."
                        Quote: Orakul2000
                        but let's see a German movie chronicle from 32 to 42 years. As the saying goes, what you sow and reap, they knew who they were choosing.

                        In reality, Jews, Jews, discord, some destroyed, persecuted, and other Jews themselves financed Hitler. About the contribution of influential Jews of that time to the formation of the Third Reich, the growth of Hitler’s influence, the “world community” prefers to remain silent. And the people who raise this issue are immediately accused of revisionism, fascism, anti-Semitism, etc. Jews and Hitler - this is one of the most closed topics in the world media. Although it is no secret that the Fuhrer and the NSDAP were sponsored by such influential Jewish industrialists as Reynold Gesner and Fritz Mandel. Hitler was greatly assisted by the famous Warburg banking dynasty and personally Max Warburg (director of the Hamburg bank MM Warburg & Co.).
                        Among other Jewish bankers who did not spare money for the NSDAP, it was necessary to single out Berliners Oscar Wasserman (one of the leaders of Deutsche Bank) and Hans Privin. A number of researchers are convinced that the Rothschilds participated in the financing of Nazism, they needed Hitler to implement the project to create a Jewish state in Palestine. The persecution of Jews in Europe forced them to seek a new homeland, and the Zionists (supporters of the unification and revival of the Jewish people in their historic homeland) helped organize the creation of settlements in the Palestinian territories. In addition, the problem of assimilation of Jews in Europe was solved, the persecution forced them to recall their origin, to unite, there was a mobilization of Jewish identity.
                        http://vakomi.livejournal.com/1303630.html
                        The fact that our veterans are in poverty, I agree with you, and we are primarily guilty of this ourselves, we cannot protect our old people, and indeed the people are brought to a pen! And the youth is corrupted, and it is specially corrupted and soldered, addicted to drugs. Who benefits from this? We can think together.
                        With respect!
      2. Kuzkin Batyan
        +2
        April 30 2013 12: 09
        no, not present, more modest ... participated in the design.
    2. -1
      April 30 2013 13: 14
      Reparations are a separate issue. These boats go as a separate issue. The first three boats on the basis of the 209th project were on preferential terms for very specific reasons. After the 1991 war, when the real scale of aid to Iraq by German firms in the production of chemical and missile weapons became known, the German government decided to provide significant military assistance to Israel (it included the payment of the first two boats)
      The current 3 boats come at a full price, albeit with certain discounts. Most of the equipment there is Israeli
      1. 0
        April 30 2013 13: 44
        maybe Russia will start Israel to sell something, for example, mi-8 or instant-29
        1. 0
          1 May 2013 02: 20
          And why, I ask you to find out? The technique will be too old.
      2. avt
        +3
        April 30 2013 13: 51
        Quote: Pimply
        After the 1991 war, when the real extent of aid to Iraq by German firms in the production of chemical and missile weapons became known, the German government decided to provide

        good And from the French for the supply of weapons to the evil Saddam they didn’t get it? laughing In general, then the Germans got great, then they also have to pay for Bushehr in Iran. And with Kiriyenko, will you also receive for Bushehr?
        1. -2
          April 30 2013 14: 30
          The Germans killed a third of the Jews. And only recently we finished paying a number of countries for reparations of the First World War. Reparations are something else. In that case, there was a one-time action, yes, due to historical circumstances, but it had nothing to do with reparations
          1. Rustiger
            +7
            April 30 2013 14: 45
            Quote: Pimply
            The Germans killed a third of the Jews.

            And also "Germans" killed as many as 2/3 of all ethnic Belarusians during the war. But for some reason, the last 60 years have not howled about this. And even more so they don’t run around the world and don’t beg for handouts from everyone who "ruled" them in those years.
            Maybe they don’t need Bundas boats, but maybe PRIDE does not allow. They are not FAVORITES !!!
            1. -6
              April 30 2013 14: 55
              The Germans in quotation marks are beautiful. Already - also wonderful. Do not spray with saliva - choke. All the best.
              1. Rustiger
                +3
                April 30 2013 15: 37
                Quote: Pimply
                Do not spray with saliva - choke. All the best.

                Why did you come in?
                I don’t have boats for you, a tactical missile dromedary camel (TRVM-6), all the more so.
                Yes, and on Tuesdays I do not serve.

                "From a dead donkey's ears. Get it from Pushkin."
                / Yosia Bender, ethnic German /
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              1. TUMAN
                +1
                1 May 2013 18: 38
                Quote: Orakul2000
                We have a country

                You have a country! Haha, you’re unfinished Zionist, and your country is the same.
          2. shpuntik
            0
            April 30 2013 23: 25
            111111111111111111
      3. GG2012
        +2
        1 May 2013 02: 14
        Quote: Pimply
        German government decides to provide significant military assistance to Israel

        In short ... read (if between the lines) ... it is necessary like this: Grandmas, stitched by Judean banks at Germany, were invested in Judas_marin ...
        As a result, the boats with Pace, began to plow the Mediterranean ...
        Unfortunately, in the Dead Sea, boats do not sail (do not sink) ...

        Jewish submarines are visible in the wake of Matzah ...
        All satellites laugh from orbit ...
  3. +5
    April 30 2013 11: 26
    From the joke:
    “Sarah, where do you get the money?”
    - In the cabinet.
    - And who closes the locker?
    - Abram and lies.
    - And who gives Abram?
    “So I give.”
    - Where do you get it?
    - So in the cabinet, I say ....
    So I'm wondering, are there some billionaires in Israel? With a population of 7 million people, having a full-fledged submarine fleet and an army commensurate with much larger states is strange. After all, all this is not very cheap. Are there any thoughts from the "professor"? Answers like "work better" are not accepted.
    1. FATEMOGAN
      +1
      April 30 2013 11: 55
      Quote: ovgorskiy
      I’m wondering, in Israel, do some billionaires live? With a population of 7 million people, having a full-fledged submarine fleet and an army commensurate with much larger states is strange. After all, all this is not very cheap

      Taki successfully sucked that to the German tit, that to the American, they are sucking, and money is dripping ... wassat
      Germany will build the sixth Dolphin-class diesel submarine for the Israeli navy and, in addition, will pay a third of its cost, i.e. 135 million euros.

      Israel currently has three Dolphin-class multipurpose submarines capable of carrying cruise missiles on board, and two more are being built at the German shipyards of Thyssen Nordseeerke in Emden and Hovaldswerke Deutsche Werft in Kiel. The first two boats were handed over to Israel free of charge, for the third they paid in equal shares.

      For the rest, Germany will have to pay a third of the cost, this is due to the reparations that Germany owes to Israel for the extermination of Jews during the Second World War.
      1. -5
        April 30 2013 13: 20
        This is not related to reparations.

        Successfully sucked-a rejection of a territory equal to the territory of Israel?
        Or the destruction of a third of the nation?
        1. FATEMOGAN
          +3
          April 30 2013 13: 50
          Quote: Pimply
          This is not related to reparations.

          Maybe it’s not connected with reparations, well then, this is the first time that the Germans build submarines without any kindness sincerely.
        2. +3
          April 30 2013 17: 25
          Quote: Pimply
          Successfully sucked-a rejection of a territory equal to the territory of Israel?

          Is this what they themselves conquered? To abandon the alien territory? Or the Sinai Peninsula or something? Well settled - first they won the alien, then they said - and let us give up the conquered alien, but some will give us reparation? As a result, without losing anything (yours, well, if you lose someone else’s - it’s a loss for you — then it's hard to talk about anything — since you’re ready to declare someone else’s own, although you don’t have to lose someone else’s thing simply because it wasn’t your original) .
    2. -3
      April 30 2013 13: 18
      Israel has high taxes and a large number of high-tech companies - you can’t imagine how many Israeli technologies you use. The military budget at the moment is about 12 billion dollars a year.
      1. Rustiger
        +4
        April 30 2013 14: 50
        Quote: Pimply
        You can’t imagine how many Israeli technologies you use.

        What kind of "technologies do they use" my boys-jerks, who out of my pocket (taxes) pay for kindergarten services.
        In this case, Russia made a concession to Israel, agreeing to replace (in relation, by the way, to Israel alone) the current "territorial" principle of pension provision (pensions are paid only to those who deserve them and at the same time reside in Russia) by the principle of mutual "export" pensions (when repatriates, for example, who emigrated from our country at one time, will also be able to apply for Russian pensions).

        It is clear that such an exchange of “exports” is beneficial, first of all, to the Israeli side - there are much more immigrants from Russia to Israel than immigrants from Israel to Russia. According to Ms. Landver herself, in 1975-2007 about 36 people aged 000 and over repatriated from Russia. 60 27 of them came to Israel in 600-1992. In total, since the beginning of the “Big Aliyah” in 2007, about 1989 people (of all ages) have repatriated from Russia. And in the event that Russia signs the convention, she, in theory, will have to take on obligations for the provision of pensions for these tens of thousands of people of retirement age. And in the future - as the remaining hundreds of thousands of repatriates retire - and the content of these future pensioners.

        Russia, of course, demonstrates in this case a very humane approach - not by way of example, by the way, to the other republics of the former USSR. The same "democratic" Ukraine, tearing to Europe, is still recognized, as Ms. Landver herself admitted a year ago, "so far ... has not shown interest in negotiating on this subject." But what about Ukraine (as well as Belarus, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Armenia, Moldova, etc.) - the same “European” Lithuania and Estonia refuse to accept obligations to support people who earned a pension in their time on their territory but then left for Israel.


        http://www.km.ru/node/367347/comments
        Many interesting comments, most of them "anti-Semitic" ...
        1. -5
          April 30 2013 15: 03
          For example, there is a processor that is installed on your computer, with a high degree of probability, it was developed in Israel. Medication. The foods that you eat often grow using Israeli technology.
          And the rest - all the best.
          1. Rustiger
            +1
            April 30 2013 16: 07
            Quote: Pimply
            And the rest - all the best.

            No, wait a second, "toad-like" / drags a nasty monster from a sandy hole by the tail /.
            My percent i7 3820 on a 2011 socket manufactured in Costa Rica.
            Here three weeks ago, a certain "professor" amused the respectable audience by saying that "all processors are assembled in Israel, but they write" China "on them.
            The foods that you eat often grow using Israeli technology.

            It's funny too. I have a dacha (where I will go in an hour) and there are tomatoes, peppers, carrots, cucumbers, onions, and many others. what else, exclusively "according to Israeli technologies." laughing
            Then weeds between this (in the form of all kinds of dandelions) are "anti-Semitic" and "according to Arab technologies."
            Does it sound like that "processor" style? Yes, and "they" appear with "pimple" on the forum in shifts. ... ...
            And the rest - all the best.

            And to you the same, and in the same place hi \ Pushing the monster back into the hole with the butt of the three-line \...
            1. 0
              April 30 2013 16: 24
              All the best
              1. Rustiger
                +2
                April 30 2013 17: 57
                Surely, sir! Danke!
                Nicht krank, Herr Rupyrchatuyu. Auf Wiedersehen! Yes
          2. SSR
            +1
            April 30 2013 18: 57
            Quote: Pimply
            For example, there is a processor that is installed on your computer with a high degree of probability

            1. -2
              April 30 2013 22: 27
              Do they stand on your computer?
          3. SSR
            +1
            April 30 2013 19: 04
            Quote: Pimply
            For example, there is a processor


            Ours do not stand still.
          4. GG2012
            -1
            1 May 2013 02: 23
            Quote: Pimply
            For example, there is a processor that is installed on your computer,

            HristoWindows ?? !!
            The operating system for the Slavic brains, in which Gd_ is selected the status of nosed goblins ?? !!
      2. 0
        1 May 2013 14: 09
        I agree that there is a processor in my computer, the Intel branch in Israel also participated in the development, but the branch is the branch, the head company takes the lion's share of the profit. By the way, Intel has branches in dozens of countries and the Jewish branch is not particularly distinguished from the rest.
        1. +1
          2 May 2013 02: 50
          A branch of this kind is only in Israel.

          http://habrahabr.ru/company/intel/blog/144767/
    3. +6
      April 30 2013 13: 22
      The governments of the USA and Israel have concluded a new agreement on military assistance to Jerusalem, which implies an increase in funding from Washington, reports Defense News. Under the new US treaty from 2018 to 2027, the year will provide Israel with military assistance for 40 billion dollars. This agreement will enter into force immediately after the end of the current one (last year ─ 2017), under which the United States annually transfers Israel three billion dollars (30 billion dollars for ten years).

      The United States has provided annual military assistance to Israel since 1987. At the same time, the FMF program with Israel is the largest of all similar programs currently being implemented by the USA. Over the past 26 years, the United States annually transferred Jerusalem an average of $ 1,9 billion. Unlike other countries, the FMF program in relation to Israel allows Jerusalem to spend up to 25 percent of the funds transferred by the United States to its own military programs. All other countries receiving military assistance are required to spend money on the purchase of American weapons and military equipment.

      It should be noted that the true size of American military assistance to Israel is not known, since the volumes of financing, the provision of services and the supply of military equipment are disclosed only for the FMF and DCS (direct arms sales) programs. Funding, including for military purposes, is also provided to Israel through the US Department of State's assistance programs.
      1. -5
        April 30 2013 13: 33
        There is also a small treaty with Egypt. Money goes for abandoning a territory larger than Israel and having oil, gas, minerals, access to the sea, resort areas, etc. According to this agreement, the Egyptians receive similar assistance. The military unit is smaller there, but there is a larger part of all sorts of subsidies and so on. Egypt received 28 billion for the same period only in this area. And there is also 1.3 billion military aid. At the same time, Egypt received the Sinai. So who is the winner here is a big question.
        1. +5
          April 30 2013 14: 43
          Quote: Pimply
          There is also a small treaty with Egypt. Money goes for abandoning a territory larger than Israel and having oil, gas, minerals, access to the sea, resort areas, etc. According to this agreement, the Egyptians receive similar assistance.

          You write the same thing several times! Why? Frankly stupid here it seems not to be observed! hi
          1. +1
            April 30 2013 14: 56
            Yes, how to say, how to say.
        2. 0
          April 30 2013 19: 12
          I do not dispute, I threw off those who are not cool. And I don’t know who sculpts you minus, set you +
      2. Vtel
        +4
        April 30 2013 13: 48
        US and Israeli Governments Conclude Jerusalem's New Military Assistance Treaty

        In principle, this is one thing - the so-called world government. It turns out that the US kosher lobby helps Israel's kosher lobby. And all this comedy is for you and me. And the blacks think that they rule America, well, the children are simple.
    4. Yarbay
      +7
      April 30 2013 14: 05
      Quote: ovgorskiy
      Are there any thoughts from the "professor"?

      Well, the professor, as always, will bring haze, then when they press against the wall, he starts trolling like a first grader !!
      1. +1
        April 30 2013 19: 22
        Quote: Yarbay
        Quote: ovgorskiy
        Are there any thoughts from the "professor"?

        Well, the professor, as always, will bring haze, then when they press against the wall, he starts trolling like a first grader !!

        Well done, God bless you)))
    5. -1
      April 30 2013 15: 31
      Quote: ovgorskiy
      I’m wondering, in Israel, do some billionaires live? With a population of 7 million people, having a full-fledged submarine fleet and an army commensurate with much larger states is strange. After all, all this is not very cheap.

      In terms of GDP per capita, Israel is in the TOP 25 countries, about 30 (in Russia 000-12). The total budget income, with 000 million people, is more than for example Ukraine with its 14000 million.
      The population of Russia is 16 times larger than Israel, the nominal GDP is 10 times, and military spending is only 5 ... So consider
      1. +6
        April 30 2013 15: 37
        the military budget, by the way, is not entirely your merit, there are submarines for free, then they threw f-16, you look, and already 12 billions have run up)))))
        1. +1
          April 30 2013 15: 56
          Quote: tomket
          the military budget, by the way, is not entirely your merit, there are submarines for free, then they threw f-16, you look, and already 12 billions have run up)))))

          What kind of kindergarten? Firstly, it is written in black and white that 2 \ 3 Israel pays, where is it free? But even if they donated just like that, would you write down their price in the budget of military expenses ??
          1. Yarbay
            +4
            April 30 2013 16: 26
            Quote: Rumata
            Firstly, it is written in black and white that 2 \ 3 Israel pays, where is it free?

            Well, these are fairy tales!
            Perhaps now they can pay part of the cost, but even 50 percent are unlikely, and 20 years ago, it is unlikely that 10 percent!
            1. -3
              April 30 2013 16: 56
              20 years ago, one boat out of three was paid 50 percent. Two went for free - the reasons I indicated above. But the three new ones are partially paid by the German government - but only partially. The rest is the most expensive Israeli military purchase
              1. Yarbay
                +5
                April 30 2013 17: 37
                Quote: Pimply
                20 years ago, one boat out of three was paid 50 percent

                With all due respect to you, Eugene, well, the Israeli economy could not have developed without huge infusions from the USA !!
                That is, then all Americans bought so that the economy does not bend!
                I do not argue that now much has changed!
                But even now, a lot of things are being sold in the world without the Made in Israel brand so as not to scare away buyers, and not every country will allow it!
      2. shpuntik
        +2
        1 May 2013 00: 01
        Rumata (1) Today, 15:31 ↑
        "The total income in the budget, with 8 million population ...
        The population of Russia is 16 times more than in Israel ... "

        As of January 1, 2013, according to the State Statistics Committee, there were 143 [347] permanent residents in Russia.
        Let's count :-) 143- (8 * 16) = 15 million people. You "cholokostyli" 15 million Russians in one line, don't you feel ashamed?
        Or "Shulkhan Arukh" allows, and we are not people for you? I quote:

        Law 2.
        "Everything that a Jew, according to the ritual, is necessary for worship, such as, for example, the brushes mentioned above, etc., can only be made by a Jew, not Akum, because it must be made by people, and Akum must not be considered by Jews as people."
        Etc. http://www.zaistinu.ru/articles/?aid=685
        And then someone shouldn’t be surprised at anything? Understand yourself with your sects, Hasidim and others. The truth is one. You can’t slaughter people like cattle, but you have an open license. Fact.
        1. 0
          1 May 2013 23: 54
          You are deeply mistaken when recording all non-Jews in Akum.
          I declare as a person who studied the Talmud in the original Hebrew and Aramaic, Akum is an idolater and no more. According to (Egrot a malachim- Scroll of Kings) from Rambam, accepted labor is the fundamental and undeniable laws adopted by all movements of Judaism, ordinary believers are not idolaters. So if you want to quote the Talmud, first start with a mentor and study it in the original (this will take years 7-8 commercials), and then throw out your equivocations if you have enough conscience. What you do, you collect garbage from various flawed people who, instead of self-education, seek out new enemies, thereby instead of fixing and improving something in the country in which they live, on the contrary, stagnation and not solving real pressing problems will help even more.
          1. shpuntik
            0
            2 May 2013 23: 02
            Orakul2000 (2) Yesterday, 23:54 PM ↑
            You are deeply mistaken when recording all non-Jews in Akum.

            I do not write everyone in Akum. I know that you are allowed to go to the mosque for prayer if there is no synagogue.
      3. +2
        1 May 2013 00: 54
        And at the same time write down the prices of bread, milk, meat, renting an apartment, so to speak, the price of electricity, heating and water. How can you compare always surprised at this.
      4. +2
        1 May 2013 14: 46
        US $ 14,900,000,000 (15 billion) Israel's military budget (2009)
        Divide by 7,700,000 (7,7 million) inhabitants (2013)
        If you divide and multiply everything, the sum of the defense adds up well, just incredible. Although you can understand, there are only enemies around. laughing
    6. +4
      April 30 2013 15: 49
      Quote: ovgorskiy
      With a population of 7 million people, having a full-fledged submarine fleet and an army commensurate with much larger states is strange.

      This is a rhetorical question, where is Coca-Cola? Simultaneously nowhere and in the whole world. Likewise, Israel, which seems to be a small country, has influence all over the world.
      1. Yarbay
        +4
        April 30 2013 16: 27
        Quote: Uncle
        So Israel, like a small country, but has influence around the world.

        United States and the cohesion of the diaspora!
        1. +4
          April 30 2013 16: 30
          Quote: Yarbay
          cohesion of the diaspora!

          Which, incidentally, is not enough for us.
          1. Yarbay
            0
            April 30 2013 16: 48
            Quote: Uncle
            Which, incidentally, is not enough for us.

            Because you have a large population and people associate themselves with a great country that does not need diasporas!
            1. 0
              1 May 2013 00: 59
              By the way, the Armenian diaspora is also very large, I think in the first place in the world.
  4. +1
    April 30 2013 12: 00
    Hmmm ...
    The Israelis, I see, are building up the marine component.
    I wonder from what time (or events?) They began to pay so much attention to the fleet?
    1. +1
      April 30 2013 13: 21
      It is worth noting relatively recently. Initially, the fleet received little attention. However, after the Doomsday War, they began to pay more attention to him.

      http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/armament/navy/few-words-about-israel-navy/
      index.html

      Here in detail
      1. 0
        April 30 2013 15: 38
        By the way, the question, do you think, without the trophy pt-76 and armored personnel carriers -50 would they be able to master the war of 1973? or would Washington's direct intervention be required?
        1. -1
          April 30 2013 16: 09
          The use of captured pt-76 - one single episode from the war. And far from the most important, do not overestimate it
        2. Yarbay
          +1
          April 30 2013 16: 30
          Quote: tomket
          By the way, the question, do you think, without the captured pt-76 and btr -50, could they have mastered the 1973 war?

          certainly would have mastered!
          The Arab armies did everything to overpower!
    2. +5
      April 30 2013 13: 23
      Since their corvette was drowned by a Mosquito.
    3. -2
      April 30 2013 15: 35
      Quote: Burbulator
      I wonder from what time (or events?) They began to pay so much attention to the fleet?

      It seems to me, in view of the developing gas production in the Mediterranean, the Navy will pay even more attention in the future ...
      1. -1
        April 30 2013 16: 10
        At the moment, negotiations are underway with the Koreans to purchase 4 frigates
  5. +1
    April 30 2013 12: 06
    and crew, Vicki writes, only 30 people ...!
  6. +2
    April 30 2013 12: 15
    "In April 1991, a contract was signed with the firms HDW and TNSW for the construction of boats. Work began in October 1994. [2] Are in service with the Israeli Navy. The submarines are based in Haifa. The Dolphin submarines have three decks, the lower is used for accumulators. In the central part of the middle deck there is a control compartment. Submarines of the Dolphin type have an airlock compartment for combat swimmers. Torpedo tubes are equipped with hydromechanical ejection devices for forced ejection of the Sub-Harpoon anti-ship missile system and mines (torpedoes leave the TA self-propelled In the bow of the upper deck there are 3 cockpits and 3 cabins.The submarines are equipped with on-board computers and a centralized alarm and control system.

    Submarines of the Dolphin type are the most expensive combat systems in the Israeli armed forces and are valued at more than 700 million dollars each.

    The commissioning of modern Dolphin-class submarines equipped with cruise missiles, which are supposedly capable of carrying nuclear warheads, significantly increases the strategic potential of the Jewish state and significantly expands the operational capabilities of the Israeli Navy, consolidating its superiority over the naval forces of the Islamic states of the Near and Middle East.

    They can presumably provide a doctrine of guaranteed retaliation in the event of an attack on Israel using weapons of mass destruction. "
    About how!
    1. +2
      April 30 2013 13: 26
      Features and differences. The current project is a cross between 212 and 214, the previous one was based on 209.
  7. Vtel
    +4
    April 30 2013 13: 41
    Quote: ovgorskiy

    So I'm wondering, are there some billionaires in Israel? With a population of 7 million people, having a full-fledged submarine fleet and an army commensurate with much larger states is strange. After all, all this is not very cheap. Are there any thoughts from the "professor"? Answers like "work better" are not accepted.

    Do not be surprised, but our money, too, most likely goes there through offshore - as in advertising: "Gas is" our "Property", like many other things: Berezovsky, Gusinsky, Borodin-man, Luzhkov-Katz and a lot of Ivanov-mans living and sucking from Russia, and you and I for breadcrumbs, Schaub did not make noise.
  8. shpuntik
    +3
    April 30 2013 14: 25
    Zionists are getting ready. Slowly, but go to their goal. Who can stop them? Even if the vaunted Germans build boats for them for free.
    Purpose: the construction of the third temple. Quote:
    "Member of the Knesset Zvulun Orlev has developed a draft law on the construction of the Third Temple in Jerusalem and invites the Israeli parliament to consider this proposal." http://www.forumdaily.com/15217/

    But for complete happiness they need to remove the mosque. While Iran is alive, it is difficult to do.
    1. Yarbay
      0
      April 30 2013 14: 39
      Quote: shpuntik
      While Iran is alive, it is difficult to do.

      Why do you think so??
      1. shpuntik
        +2
        April 30 2013 15: 25
        Yarbay (7) Today, 14:39
        Why do you think so??

        I think so, because the demolition of the mosque will cause the unification of Muslims, and Iran has a good army. First they will take control of Iran, then they will fight the "alkaida" where it is profitable. Next there will be a redrawing of the state. borders of Syria and Iran, possibly the formation of Kurdistan. Under silence the Temple Mount and release ...
        "Traditionally, the Temple is located on the site where today stands the Charam al-Scharif complex, more precisely the Dome of the Rock (Kubbet es-Sachra), built by Abd al-Malik in 637."
        1. Yarbay
          -1
          April 30 2013 15: 36
          Quote: shpuntik
          I think so, because the demolition of the mosque will cause the unification of Muslims, and Iran has a good army.

          Will not cause unification !!
          The army of Iran is thousands of kilometers from Israel!
          Only the land part of the Iranian army can be taken seriously!
          After the defeat from the air will be transformed into memory!
          1. shpuntik
            +1
            April 30 2013 19: 00
            Yarbay (7) Today, 15:36
            After the defeat from the air will be transformed into memory!

            Then why is Israel delaying the attack?
        2. 0
          April 30 2013 16: 11
          Do you know that a building with a golden dome is not Al-Aqsa Mosque?
          1. shpuntik
            +1
            April 30 2013 18: 38
            So it is written: the complex. Everything is near. Al-Aqsa with a dark dome, Kubbat al-Sahra with gold.
    2. +4
      April 30 2013 15: 42
      By the way, wasn’t it about the temple that there was some kind of prophecy that when they finish building the Antichrist will come and they will have their masses ???? maybe we can send our own Satan there ??? in the sense of ss-20. so to say contribution)))))))
      1. +2
        April 30 2013 15: 52
        About him, so let him stand ...
    3. +1
      1 May 2013 02: 38
      Dear, I declare absolutely with 100% certainty that as a person who has thoroughly studied the history of the Jerusalem Temple, it is unnecessary to move or destroy anything, the Omar mosque should not be in the place where the temple itself stood, it slightly touches the courtyard attached to the Temple and nothing more. The sectional mountain of the temple has the shape of a saddle, that is, with a hollow in the middle, and so the Temple stood in that hollow, and the mosque is on a hill (on the lip of this hollow).
  9. ed65b
    +2
    April 30 2013 15: 16
    The Jews of the Germans bent down and the boats for free and repent and kiss in the ass. Well done in one word.
    1. +4
      April 30 2013 15: 41
      excessive enthusiasm for role-playing games and sadomasochism will not lead to anything good Germany.
  10. +6
    April 30 2013 15: 43
    built in Germany with financial assistance from the German government
    are the product of a two-year strategic cooperation program between Israel and Germany

    Hitler and Goebbels in their coffins turned upside down. What they fought for! I wonder what other metamorphoses we will see.
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    1. +1
      April 30 2013 16: 23
      Hey. School of its own. The course of divers is quite an elite place, it’s difficult to get there.

      http://www.newsru.co.il/arch/israel/25dec2012/torpedo303.html

      Here's an article about completing 102 courses at the base of the Navy in Haifa. The main base there, there is also a base in Eilat. Usually there is a rotation: a boat on a combat mission, a boat on service, a boat on exercises.

      It is worth noting that all boats in Israel undergo additional modernization, often very serious. One of the first Dolphins recently completed this. Two years lasted



      Communicated with submariners, most of their tasks are related to intelligence.
  12. +2
    April 30 2013 16: 01
    Well, Jews, well, cunning. Cut down from the Germans excellent submarines for free. That's a gesheft smile
    Question number one - are they a nuclear weapons carrier? wink
  13. Ruslan_F38
    +2
    April 30 2013 16: 24
    He knows how to upset Military Review before May 9! I hope this submarine will not reach Israel and will drown along the way.
    1. -2
      April 30 2013 16: 56
      And what makes Israel and its boats so sad? And what does May 9 have to do with it?
      1. GG2012
        +1
        1 May 2013 02: 28
        Quote: Pimply
        And what makes Israel and its boats so sad? And what does May 9 have to do with it?

        And the fact that the following flags lie under the Mausoleum ... will be yours !!!
        1. -1
          1 May 2013 02: 36
          I would be in your place worried that your Western flags would not lie there.
    2. shpuntik
      +2
      April 30 2013 22: 19
      Ruslan_F38 Today, 16:24
      I hope this submarine will not reach Israel and will drown along the way.

      Why not? It can be torpedoed by the Americans, by mistake :-) Let's see how the "case" is shut up, and what the Knesset will say. Leiba Davidovich Bronstein and Lazar Moiseevich Kaganovich then surely, in their coffins, will turn :-)
      Well, but seriously, the Germans make excellent boats: everything is remotely controlled. Direct competitors of "Kilo". The Indians still take from us, but only because of the missile system and the price. We are lagging behind them for now. Unfortunately.
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    1. +1
      April 30 2013 16: 49
      Quote from rudolf
      Israel still has not officially recognized the presence of nuclear weapons

      That's just the point. The fact that Israel possesses nuclear weapons has been the "secret of the polish" since the 80s.
      It's just the height of hypocrisy in our hypocritical world, to present claims to different countries (for example, Iran) for violating the nonproliferation regime, despite the fact that Israel has nuclear weapons and wanted to sneeze at all this "nonproliferation"
      1. -1
        April 30 2013 17: 00
        Iran signed the treaty - and did not withdraw it. At the same time, while maintaining membership in the treaty, he diligently violates it, which is recognized by the UN Security Council, the IAEA, etc. Iran has already come across violations of international rules of the game - for example, the seizure of an embassy. Therefore, the potential presence of nuclear weapons in this country, coupled with warlike rhetoric and religious fanaticism, somewhat delivers to everyone - Iran’s sanctions have not been drained from scratch.
    2. +1
      April 30 2013 17: 36
      Quote from rudolf
      Israel probably has cruise missiles with horizontal launch launch bombs through torpedo tubes similar to the Tomahawks or our Grenades.

      It is entirely possible that this thing can be installed with them - as a weapon of nuclear retaliation, as MCHP wrote:
      "The commissioning of modern Dolphin-class submarines equipped with cruise missiles, which are supposedly capable of carrying nuclear warheads, significantly increases the strategic potential of the Jewish state and significantly expands the operational capabilities of the Israeli Navy, consolidating its superiority over the naval forces of the Islamic states of the Middle and The Middle East.

      They can presumably provide a doctrine of guaranteed retaliation in the event of an attack on Israel using weapons of mass destruction. "
      A long-range cruise missile variant of the Popeye Turbo has been speculated as being employed in Israel's submarine-based nuclear forces
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popeye_(missile)
      Although so far I only know about the aviation version, but the English wiki writes that it can be with submarines.
  15. 0
    April 30 2013 17: 44
    I don’t understand what is being discussed here. Information like about the Dolphin boat, designed and manufactured by Germany, which will seriously increase the already not sickly combat potential of the Israeli Navy. It would seem that this is what we need to talk about, assuming that the site was created for professionals. Instead, another anti-Semitic and empty "blizzard" is rising. Will she weaken this potential? Or the Israelis will shrink and send their boats to the scrap. And I agree with Pipyrchaty that no matter what they say about Israel and its "Zionist" essence, today it is the only country with such experience of waging real non-nuclear wars in the conditions of using modern weapons and military technologies for each of the wars. It would seem that learning from them, the Israelis, is necessary for this experience, which by the way do not hesitate to do many highly developed countries with much greater financial and technological capabilities than Israel. And not only do they not disdain, but they also keep branches of their leading firms in Israel, for example, Mictosoft, and on occasion buy from Israel many types of military equipment and weapons. Moreover, high-tech types, although they do not shun the usual, small ones. It is also interesting that many types of weapons were developed and produced in Israeli "collective farms", i.e. in kibbutzim. I don’t remember a case when something like that could be done in collective and state farms of the USSR, although there was a time when some enterprises of the Ministry of Agricultural Engineering of the USSR produced, for example, cruise missiles and other flying and firing "combines".
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