Russian Geran missiles have begun hunting Ukrainian aircraft and helicopters in the air.

Russia has started to apply drones- Geranium-type kamikaze missiles for hunting Ukrainian aircraft and helicopters in the air. This was announced by the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense.

Ukraine uses fighter jets and helicopters to intercept Russian missiles or kamikaze drones, primarily over the country's western regions. However, recently, Russian troops have adopted a new version of the Geranium UAV, which hunts Ukrainian "hunters" on its own. According to Yuriy Myronenko, Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine for Innovation, these are operator-controlled Gerans.

Countering them is even more difficult because they are controlled in real time, allowing the operator to react to the current situation and even attempt to attack our aircraft or helicopters in the air. This not only reduces the defender's reaction time but also creates a whole new set of problems.

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense notes that Geranium-type kamikaze drones have evolved significantly over the past three years. While these UAVs previously only attacked pre-assigned coordinates, they are now capable of selecting targets independently and attacking moving objects. Furthermore, production volumes have increased to such an extent that Geraniums have begun operating along the front lines, striking targets on the front lines.

This is a big threat and the problem is getting worse every day.

Currently, Ukraine lacks effective countermeasures against Russian Geraniums, as Russian designers are one step ahead. Before Kyiv can come up with new ways to intercept drones, the Russians will introduce something else, making the Geranium less accessible to attackers. Defense.

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[the most important]

And that's just the tip of the iceberg... If the army isn't stopped, the real deal will follow. The army must complete the liberation of Ukraine from Bandera's filth, strictly according to the plan announced in December 2022, with the reunification of all Russian lands.

[Terenin]

Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine Yuri Mironenko. ...but also creates a whole new series of problems.

What kind of problems could there be in Ukraine when you were jumping around on the Maidan with such joy!?

[Saburov_Alexander53]

Guys, who understands this topic? Could you tell me what channels are used to control these "Geranium" fighters that hunt enemy aircraft?

Ukraine uses fighter jets and helicopters to intercept Russian missiles or kamikaze drones, mainly over the country's western regions.

A new modification of the Geranium UAV has entered service with Russian troops, which itself hunts Ukrainian "hunters."

I understand when Geranium attacks a stationary target using the coordinates stored in its memory, using GLONASS satellite channels as a guide. But to hunt helicopters, let alone airplanes, there needs to be a direct video link to control Geranium. A VHF radio channel won't reach very far, let alone fiber... Have we really acquired a satellite channel that can't be jammed by the enemy's electronic warfare?

[Sky strike fighter]

Are you by any chance from the Main Intelligence Directorate that you're asking such questions?

[Saburov_Alexander53]

ky Strike fighter (Maxim), thank you for your vigilance, but please don't use the "z" in that word. Haven't you ever had a similar question? I'm guessing you haven't, since technology isn't your area of ​​expertise. I have 35 years of experience in communications, including any and all types currently in existence... Well, I've only ever worked with laser communications in fiber-optic communication lines, not in space. And now I'm stuck, unable to understand how the Geranium is controlled while chasing moving targets... I'm simply not familiar with such direct remote control channels, especially for attacking aircraft.
It is possible that there is no control channel at all, but simply the capture of a target that accidentally hit its homing head (GHS).
But then the next question is, what if the target doesn't hit its seeker, where will this Geranium go? Will it simply crash after running out of fuel, or does it have a primary ground target, with an aircraft or helicopter being a secondary target if it hits its seeker?
In my opinion, these are quite reasonable questions, rather than simply throwing around slogans and calls on this forum.

[Xenaro]

I second that. I also thought about a primary target and automatic acquisition of secondary ones. But I'm unsure whether the geranium has sufficient computing power to definitively identify a target as a military asset.

[futurohunter]

It doesn't require a lot of computing power... Even a smartphone can handle this task.

[Incvizitor]

Maybe I can do it myself, without an operator, using a photocontrast or thermal...

[Saburov_Alexander53]

Andrey, thanks for the reply... I read about photo contrast thanks to you, I'll keep that in mind... I remember and know about heat-seeking, but I doubt that the regular heat flares on airplanes and helicopters won't distract the slow-moving Geranium.
I understand that there are times in war when a soldier in a trench shoots down an airplane with a rifle shot... a matter of chance. But I doubt the Geranium can catch an airplane unless it exposes itself, and that's probably exactly what's happened a couple of times already.
A helicopter of comparable speed is a different matter, especially on a head-on collision course. But if our Geranium is controlled via a Ukrainian mobile network (as Mikhail suggests below), then simply turning off the network for half an hour during an attack would render the Geranium blind... I don't particularly like this idea, with its direct dependence on the enemy's agility.

[Incvizitor]

As far as I know, the contrast against the background of the ground does not take the target, I think the UAV needs to be lower, although it can be included in the complex.

[Bear]

Compact satellite communication terminals for geostationary satellites exist, of course, but for Gerani they're too complex, expensive, and bulky. 4G cellular data networks are more suitable. Using Starlink terminals, however, is a viable option.

[Kmet]

You should go to a specialized forum for radio engineers (if you even know what you're asking). And keep your questions more modest, not about a specific product. Otherwise, your question sounds like something along the lines of, "Would you like the keys to the apartment where the money is?" General questions are recommended. While there are experts on VO, it's not the right topic for discussion—you simply won't get competent technical answers, and there won't be any real discussion.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

Alexey, I hope not everyone on this forum is as "modest" as you'd like them to be. And judging by some of the very intelligent responses to my questions, that's certainly true! And your advice reminded me of the classic story about the wise minnow, who was also afraid to step outside his own worldview.
And why not discuss options for controlling the Geranium, a hunter of moving objects? We understand that it's an order of magnitude more difficult than targeting coordinates on the ground.
Bayard below already suggested to me that we may have acquired a satellite control channel, similar to Starlink, for controlling these "Geraniums."

[bayard]

Quote: Saburov_Alexander53

Do we really have a satellite channel that can't be suppressed by the enemy's electronic warfare systems?

Appeared.
For six months now, they've been complaining that the Geranium satellites have become smart, maneuvering, evading anti-aircraft fire, hunting moving targets (trains, convoys), and a ship (which our BEK hit in a river delta, and the image quality from the BEK was very good). And yes, it's similar to Starlink. The constellation is still limited (a few dozen), but the deployment of the main satellite constellation begins in December. It was precisely to coordinate orbital parameters that the young head of Roscosmos recently flew to the US to meet with Musk (to prevent the satellites from colliding with each other).

[Saburov_Alexander53]

bayard, thanks for your reply and I always respect your comments even if I don't agree with some of them.
In this case, I don't have full knowledge of Bakanov's coordination of orbital parameters with Musk. I'm accustomed to the established launch procedure, where orbit selection is coordinated with the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) International Committee.

[engineer74]

Quote: Saburov_Alexander53

Guys, who understands this topic? Could you tell me what channels are used to control these "Geranium" fighters that hunt enemy aircraft?

Ukraine uses fighter jets and helicopters to intercept Russian missiles or kamikaze drones, mainly over the country's western regions.

A new modification of the Geranium UAV has entered service with Russian troops, which itself hunts Ukrainian "hunters."

I understand when Geranium attacks a stationary target using the coordinates stored in its memory, using GLONASS satellite channels as a guide. But to hunt helicopters, let alone airplanes, there needs to be a direct video link to control Geranium. A VHF radio channel won't reach very far, let alone fiber... Have we really acquired a satellite channel that can't be jammed by the enemy's electronic warfare?

Two chips from a washing machine and one from a robot vacuum cleaner, and an evil AI is ready.
It determines goals, routes and priorities autonomously, but this is secret.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

Dmitry, I get a plus for the humor... but you shouldn't have taken up so much space quoting me just for that. Please maintain proper forum hygiene...

[NakedMan]

It seems there aren't many options for such a long distance. Unless there's something completely new, then either satellite or Ukrainian mobile internet are the options.

[Rome]

Starlink antennas with a Ukrainian subscription and voila, direct connection via Kosios

[bk0010]

Quote: Saburov_Alexander53

But to hunt helicopters, let alone airplanes, we need a direct video link to control the Geranium. A VHF channel won't reach very far, let alone fiber... Could it be that we've finally got a satellite link that can't be jammed by the enemy's electronic warfare?

Why? Judging by the fact that they're now jamming our mobile internet, they're using Ukrainian cellular networks.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

bk0010, thanks for the reply, although I already suggested continuing the Geranium's operation in the event of a loss of the control channel. And it could be lost, as you rightly noted, if the enemy disables mobile internet over the area during an air raid... So what, then? Are all these Geraniums just hitting random targets with their dummy missiles, running out of fuel?

[Zaurbek]

Who will give the correct answer,
- he will get 10 years.....
They definitely control it via the internet, the main secret is where do they get it?

[abc_alex]

Quote: Saburov_Alexander53

But to chase helicopters, let alone airplanes, you need a direct video link to control the Geranium. A VHF radio won't reach very far, let alone fiber.

As one Hollywood actor said in a chewing gum commercial: "Don't make it complicated."
To attack low-speed aerial targets, you need two things: a television camera and a processor capable of processing machine vision algorithms. The camera doesn't even need an IR channel, although it's certainly desirable. Geranium has no friends in the air; it responds to the "shoot everyone you see" command. If an object is in the lens, measure its distance, calculate its size, and if it fits the definition of a "helicopter," turn and shoot. If an airplane, shoot. If no one is caught within the estimated flight time, disable "fighter" mode and "remember" the coordinates and characteristics of the ground target.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

abc_alex (Alexey), finally at least one intelligible answer with a possible description of how the Geranium works against an air target, thanks!
I've also pondered and fantasized about something similar, but I've always been perplexed by the technical feasibility of implementing such a target acquisition system on the Geran. Yes, I've heard about heat-seeking or contrast-guided targeting, which are used on air-to-air missiles. And today I'm reading about "the first successful tests using such missiles from a Bayraktar drone" in Turkey. But that Bayraktar is essentially an aircraft, while this is the Geran, which itself functions as such a missile... We'll assume that's exactly what you described, or we'll wait for more detailed information from the experts.
I also liked that in your version, the Geranium doesn't fall as a dummy missile after running out of fuel if there's no aerial target available. This is precisely the scenario I suggested in one of my comments, with a pre-programmed primary target on the ground and an aerial one, should circumstances require it.

[futurohunter]

Nothing complicated... A camera (either a standard, high-contrast night vision camera, or infrared) transmits the image to a simple computer, which then highlights a high-contrast object against the sky... Even a schoolchild could write the algorithm; no artificial intelligence is required. And there's no need for control either. The operator can only periodically adjust the flight route or approve an attack on an aerial target (or help the drone select a target from several). In short, there aren't any particular problems—such tasks were already being solved at the end of the last century with much less modern equipment.
In particular, the old Strela-10 missile, which is still used at the front, highlights the target against the sky.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

Anatoly, I heard you... But questions remain.

The operator can only periodically adjust the flight route,

In any case, this requires a control channel, and that was my original question: how and what kind of channel is this? Over long distances, it might only be a satellite channel, similar to Starlink. Someone here is telling me that it seems similar!!! We already have this capability.
Guiding the Geranium to a high-contrast object in the sky is something I understand and can accept. But attacking with a missile from a unique aircraft, where the pilot has a complete picture thanks to the onboard system, is one thing, and how can you make the system on a primitive Geranium even slightly smarter? If the enemy launches warm balloons (bubbles) on tethers, will the Geranium be able to distinguish them from an airplane or helicopter, or will it simply take the bait? And that's where you get both warmth and contrast against the sky... And what's more, such a Geranium must fly in splendid isolation, so as not to be distracted by its neighbors.
The Strela-10, or any other MANPADS, is launched with human intervention and a clear assessment, where they must be confident they won't hit their own. And I'm wondering precisely about this parameter: how much "brain power" does the Geranium have without human intervention?

[AleksByk]

And for what purpose are you interested in?

[Ջոն Գալտ]

No external control is required. Any large infrared signature with a color temperature above a certain limit in enemy airspace is the targeting method. Although, in my opinion, all this is still a bogeyman for Ukrainian air defense. When the first practical results are achieved, then we can talk about "beginning of use." For now, there's nothing but "concerns" and the self-destructing Geranium with a missile on board.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

No external control is required.

If that were the case, I wouldn't have any problems with a standard target acquisition with a seeker. But for some reason, they're constantly writing about communication with the drone's (Geran's) operator, who, supposedly, by receiving the image from it, can make adjustments during the flight and even change the attack target. What should we do with these reports, or is it just the media's ignorance?

[Barracuda 148]

I really want to believe these words in God's ears.

[Alexander]

The extreme western border of the USSR!!!!!!!! And I think it’s worth visiting both the Poles and the Three-Balts!

[APASUS]

In the battle between fire and water, there are no winners! The situation is similar here: management will be more complex, the tasks more extensive. But if the price of Geraniums doesn't rise, they will always be relevant.

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: APASUS

In the battle between fire and water, there are no winners! The situation is similar here: management will be more complex, the tasks more extensive. But if the price of Geraniums doesn't rise, they will always be relevant.

This is a modification of the Geranium-2. It shouldn't be much more expensive than the classic Geranium-2. Over time, we could consider implementing such a multifunctional guidance system, capable of simultaneously targeting both surface and air targets, on a faster drone/missile. This would create a multifunctional missile capable of both anti-ship missiles and air-to-air interceptors. Perhaps it would make sense to borrow the guidance algorithms from the Lancet-3 using neural networks or try an AI module like those found on FPV drones. Something to consider.

Russian military engineers have unveiled an upgraded version of the Geran-2 attack drone, equipped with the ability to engage aerial targets, including aircraft and helicopters. The new modification features an improved guidance system, enabling it to track and attack moving objects in the air. Furthermore, the drones are now controlled via an encrypted communications channel, significantly complicating their interception or jamming by the enemy.

https://www1.ru/news/2025/11/28/rossiiskie-inzenery-modernizirovali-geran-2-dlia-perexvata-vozdusnyx-celei.html

[futurohunter]

Why neural networks? Don't use trendy platitudes! ))) Much simpler and more reliable algorithms are used.

[Mountain shooter]

Why not? And there's no need to "guide" it to the target. A standard seeker, and manual guidance until the target is locked on. And let it chase!

[Sky strike fighter]

Wouldn't it be simpler to arm this Geranium modification with S-8L laser-guided missiles, and use the laser target illumination turret from a Termit UAV? The operator would be able to remotely illuminate the target and then open fire from the Geranium using the S-8L, which has a range of 5-6 km.

Some sources cite the drone's payload at 350 and even 450 kg. If the Termit were such a heavyweight, the engineers clearly wouldn't have limited themselves to three S-8L missiles, each of which weighs no more than 15 kg. The unmanned helicopter's full takeoff weight falls within the 350-450 kg range, hence the confusion among poorly informed experts.

https://topwar.ru/231991-termity-idut-na-front.html

[Sky strike fighter]

Or here's another option for a turret for this Geranium, if it's even possible at this stage of development. It all depends on the weight of the device. But it would be nice if such a turret matched the Geranium's weight.

A turret-mounted combat laser system from PPSh Laboratory has begun field testing. It is most likely a fiber-optic laser with a power of 5 to 10 kW, capable of engaging small copters and Rubaka-type kamikaze drones at a range of 1,5 to 2 km. The turret is equipped with a thermal imaging sighting system with an LCD indicator displaying infrared images of heat-contrast targets. The laser module and optical system are shielded by a protective casing.

https://dzen.ru/a/aPJqIETragIExI01

[Saburov_Alexander53]

If the hunt is taking place far from the LBS, especially over the western regions of Ukraine, then what kind of video control channel is this for the Geranium? And not targeting a stationary object using coordinates, but chasing a moving target... How is that possible?

[berlaga2005]

Possibly via SIM card and messaging apps. But mobile internet speeds have likely been reduced in more than just some regions of Russia.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

berlaga2005(Berlaga)+1, where will this "Geranium" fly in case of loss of communication with the operator or if it doesn't catch up with the target and simply falls down, having used up its fuel?
I assume it has a primary ground target in its flight program. And it only switches to an aircraft or helicopter when it's within the Geran's seeker's sights.

[berlaga2005]

Why would I lose connection with my carrier? Mobile internet isn't a novelty these days, it's a common occurrence. And a real headache. But I'm sure some work is being done on this issue. Russia just introduced a cooling-off period for SIM cards after roaming, so there have been precedents.
It's unlikely that the Geranium is versatile enough to be used on either ground or air targets. These are very different objects.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

It is unlikely that the Geranium is so versatile that it can work either on ground or air targets.

So what happens then? The Geraniums fly rather slowly and are unlikely to be launched after locating an air target deep behind enemy lines. More likely, the enemy scrambles its aircraft after locating our Geraniums. But what if they don't scramble, but limit themselves to anti-aircraft missiles...? Then the Geraniums, armed only for air targets, will be useless, expensive dummies, wasted?
No, I wouldn't throw around unique weapons like that, and if there's no air target, I'd aim it at a stationary one with a pre-selected target for attack.

[begemot20091]

The speed of the Geranium-3 jet drone is estimated at 550–700 km/h, which is significantly faster than conventional propeller-driven drones.

[Synoid]

Do you know what happens to a guided missile when it loses its target or runs out of fuel? It's very simple, and there's no need to stretch Ukraine's globe to fit the bill.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

Denis, and you too, don't get sick... if the globe is already pressing on your cerebellum... Be patient, an owl can be patient, and how are you any better?
But if I leave aside your rudeness, what got you so worked up about my simple question to those in the know? You forgot about the fan that throws things and started throwing things instead. What's got into you? Or do you think they're now launching Geraniums instead of air-to-air missiles? But a missile is launched after finding a target, and nothing else. And Geraniums are launched on a whim, just in case someone turns up? Interesting thought...

[Synoid]

I just don't like chatterboxes. Guessing what algorithm is embedded in the Geranium with the military specialty you're flaunting is a first-year student. And there aren't that many solutions, everything's freely available. If our scientists have developed something new, there's no one here who can say no. And leave the manure from your message in your pigsty, adios amigo.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Why not? And there's no need to "guide" it to the target. A standard seeker, and manual guidance until the target is locked on. And let it chase!

The whole problem is speed... Geranium will definitely not catch up with the plane, unless it's a crop duster, and regarding the communication channel, I have the same questions as my colleague, the communications specialist, Alexander Saburov, above... and I'll draw your attention to all - This is news from the Ukrainian Armed Forces.Since when did we start believing the enemy's news? Hurray! Good thing we're not being fanatical...

[Synoid]

Perhaps this is an excuse for losses during an attempt to intercept the Ukrainian aircraft due to low training.

[Apprentice_SAM]

Perhaps this is an excuse for losses during an attempt to intercept the Ukrainian aircraft due to low training.
That's it, that's the point.
And then it turns out like this: "She walked and walked, and then - wham! She jumps!!!"

[Terenin]

While these UAVs previously only attacked at pre-assigned coordinates, they are now capable of selecting targets independently and attacking moving objects.

Ukry, I heard that a program is being developed for our UAVs: "Visiting Ukrainian Armed Forces personnel during their breakfasts, lunches, and dinners, and also - dunking them in the toilet!"

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

❝ A new modification of the Geranium UAV, which hunts Ukrainian “hunters” on its own ❞ —

— “We have an anti-uncle for every uncle”...

[former soldier]

❝ A new modification of the Geranium UAV, which hunts Ukrainian “hunters” on its own ❞ —

— “We have an anti-uncle for every uncle”...

There's something about Newton in your picture, his eyes look so scared. Apparently he himself is already afraid of his own 3rd Newton's law of anti-uncle F1=-F2.

[Comrade Beria]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Geranium-based air-to-air missile carriers appear soon. At least with an infrared seeker based on a MANPADS. All that's needed is a high-quality, uncooled matrix.

In the meantime, here's a report from the fields:

We will apply OUR know-how to Macron's grids.

[rytik32]

Quote: Comrade Beria

I wouldn't be surprised if Gerani missile carriers soon appeared.

IMHO it's easier to place "Verba"

[Sky strike fighter]

Instead of MANPADS, you could try installing a laser turret from a Termit UAV and missiles targeting the S-8L laser. Simply transfer the Termit UAV to the Geran-2/Geran-3 UAV. This is a ready-made solution. Perhaps you should even try transferring the automatic target acquisition and subsequent engagement function, regardless of interference, to the S-8L missile, as is implemented on some FPV drones, allowing targets to be engaged after automatic acquisition even in interference conditions.

[abc_alex]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Perhaps we should even try to transfer to the S-8L missile the function of automatic target acquisition with its subsequent destruction regardless

I read your suggestions in this thread, and in my opinion, you are thinking in the wrong direction :) You are trying to programmable ammunition make a fighter. But that's the same ammunitionIt's not a carrier. And there's no need to equip it with lasers and missiles. Well, it wouldn't occur to you to slap a couple of machine guns on a UMPK for "thirty-liter" tanks. :)
Gerani needs (I suspect it already has) an optical homing system. A simple camera, processor, rangefinder. It has no "over the horizon" of its own. See it, identify it, and shoot it. An aircraft is an ideally simple target, especially low-speed ones. So are static objects. Optical recognition algorithms on television have long been established and perfected. Microcontrollers and processors are available.
It's not difficult with ships either.

With ground technicians, things are much more complicated...

[Terenin]

Currently, Ukraine lacks effective countermeasures against Russian Geran missiles, as Russian designers are one step ahead. Before Kyiv can come up with new ways to intercept drones, the Russians will introduce something else, once again making the Geran less vulnerable to air defenses.

Armed Forces of Ukraine, try contacting Reich gynecologist Ursula or Estonian Kaia to resolve this issue. KAL (feces, excrement). Their imaginations are just overflowing.

[Same lech]

Russian designers are one step ahead.

This is a guarantee of superiority over the enemy...this makes me happy.

[Lemon]

So, on the account of "geraniums", there are already several piglets who have died on it!)))

[th.kuzmichev]

I imagine a very realistic, yet illogical, situation: a kamikaze drone takes off on a mission to destroy an enemy kamikaze drone. The enemy drone has the same mission. They meet. Both win?

[KCA]

Do they make Vaseline in XXX? Buy it, you've awakened the dragon. We were living in prosperity and friendship with everyone, but you helped us wake up. Our designers, engineers, and workers don't need a kick in the pants; they'll be running ahead. So what are you watching?

[sdivt]

...to hunt Ukrainian planes

What I'm wondering is where these "Ukrainian planes" come from, which, as we were told, were almost completely destroyed in the first months of the Second World War?
After all, the fourth year is ending, everything that could be supplied to Ukraine was supplied in the first, or at most the second year.
So where do the planes come from?

[nikon voron]

Have there been any successes, what have you already destroyed?

[Old_geologist]

Quote: Saburov_Alexander53

thanks for the answer...

I don't understand why you're being downvoted so vigorously? You seem to be asking calm, reasonable questions, not just throwing them at the fan? I've corrected it as best I could.

[iomoe]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Are you by any chance from the Main Intelligence Directorate that you're asking such questions?

Why ask? Just feed the public misinformation if you're in the know.

[Victal]

When Gerani shoots down at least one litak, then we'll talk.

[iommy]

Imagine how much easier the assault would be if the fortifications were pre-treated with 10 geraniums. Given their mass, they could easily dismantle any dugout, even the deepest one. The proximity of the front would simplify communications, and remote-controlled geraniums could be used.

[the same doctor]

To destroy targets in the frontline zone, artillery and KABs dropped over our territory tens of kilometers from the front are quite sufficient.
There is a better idea on how to make KABs cheaper and simplify their design.
.
If there is an excess of geraniums, then a modification with a larger warhead due to fuel and a modified control system is needed.

[sir Garry]

Quote: Saburov_Alexander53

there is a primary ground target, and the plane or helicopter is a secondary target

That's most likely exactly the case! Deploying Geranium squadrons solely to search and destroy aircraft and helicopters is extremely wasteful.

[AC130 Gunship]

The Gerani has a working speed of 200, the Mig29 has a minimum of 900.
As one major in the army told me, "Hunting is when he wants to and she wants to. Anything else is not hunting."
The main thing is to throw it in. Maybe they'll swallow it.

[the same doctor]

The MANPADS operator on the ground has zero speed. The AWACS detects a target, Geran waits for it to appear in the designated sector, and automatically launches a MANPADS missile. The idea has been overdue for three years, but I didn't publish it because I was afraid the Ukrainians would implement it before ours.

[vromi]

It would be nice to read the statistics on how many planes and helicopters have already been destroyed by geraniums?

[the same doctor]

This is a long-overdue and obvious idea. Implementing this idea means that the problems with remote control of Geraniums (read: communications) have been solved. By refining the technology using these same algorithms, we can train Geraniums to accurately fire RPGs at ground targets and return. In other words, we'll have an effective and accurate homing UAV. There are several non-trivial solutions that aren't hard to come by. If only the right order from the Ministry of Defense were placed.
Ultimately, it's better to land an RPG grenade right on target than a hundred pounds of explosives scattered about. And you can use these geraniums to sling cables with hooks onto power lines, ten of them each... and hang mines on the hooks to not only short-circuit the wires, but also guarantee their severance.

[futurohunter]

Just what will this RPG "grenade" of yours destroy? At best, it'll just kill some poor Ukrainian...

[AC130 Gunship]

Quote: also a doctor

The MANPADS operator on the ground has zero speed. The AWACS detects a target, Geran waits for it to appear in the designated sector, and automatically launches a MANPADS missile. The idea has been overdue for three years, but I didn't publish it because I was afraid the Ukrainians would implement it before ours.

Well, yes. H.G. Wells also wrote about a man who is not a human. It's still science fiction. They can't produce a Soviet Tu-214 here. And you want to modernize the Iranian Shahed.

[kig]

What kind of aircraft are the Geranis hunting, after all, the Ukrainian Air Force has been destroyed. Several times.

[Y615]

Guys, I urge you to be vigilant. People here are asking questions like "Saburov is definitely a plant." This is clearly meant to stir up discussions and debates, and maybe the enemy will learn something important. Remember how Britain, in the heat of an argument, sent out tank documentation?

[futurohunter]

Yeah, so there are experts here who know "all the secrets"))) These technical solutions of yours have long been described in specialized and even popular science literature. They're also read "there." Just look for books on aircraft missile control—they were written back in the 80s and are freely available. How are these drones essentially different from missiles?

[nekromonger]

This is all great, but I would like to see the results - the enemy's equipment destroyed