Trump's 28 Points: A Peace Treaty or a Trojan Horse?

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Trump's 28 Points: A Peace Treaty or a Trojan Horse?

So, it's happened. The Americans have put forward their plan for resolving the Russian-Ukrainian conflict. But what exactly is this plan? Let's try to analyze what they're offering us.

Of course, the analysis presented to you is derivative, as it is based not on the original source but on publications, which may contain translation errors—accidental, or perhaps even intentional. However, in the absence of stamped paper, we will use plain paper.

I also won’t go through all 28 of Trump’s points, many of them are just fluff, so I’ll only look at the most interesting ones.

1. Ukraine's sovereignty will be confirmed


Hardly anyone would dispute this. The abolition of Ukrainian statehood was never the declared goal of the SVO. The Russian leadership sought not to destroy Ukraine as a state, but to change the Nazi order that reigned within it.

2. A comprehensive non-aggression agreement will be concluded between Russia, Ukraine, and Europe. All contradictions of the past 30 years will be considered resolved.


This is where the questions begin to arise. So, the Russian Federation must recognize both NATO's eastward expansion and the missile defense bases in Europe as legitimate? This is an impossible point: we can recognize this "de facto," but not "de jure."

3. Russia will not invade neighboring countries, and NATO will not expand further.


This clause restricts Russia to a far greater extent than NATO. According to it, NATO retains the right to invade neighboring countries. For us, military action similar to the war of 08/08/08 would be a violation of this agreement.

4. A dialogue will be organized between Russia and NATO, with US mediation, to resolve all security issues and create conditions for de-escalation, expanding opportunities for cooperation and future economic development.


This is a generally neutral and non-binding clause, and it could be adopted. Trump's platform contains plenty of similar clauses, such as creating working groups to prevent future conflicts and so on.

5. Ukraine will receive reliable security guarantees


This is probably not a bad thing, but these guarantees need to be made more specific. Otherwise, excuse me, a situation could arise whereby the "non-expansion of NATO to the East" stipulated in paragraph 3 of this plan could be circumvented by concluding an alliance in which Ukraine would not formally be a NATO member but would in fact receive the benefits of such membership. And, as we will see below, the likelihood of this is clearly greater than zero.

6. The number of Ukrainian armed forces will be limited to 600 people.


This is the first truly alarming sign. The fact is, this clause doesn't imply any limitation on the Ukrainian Armed Forces. It's common knowledge that there are two types of strength for the armed forces: peacetime and wartime. The peacetime strength of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was less than half that; before the start of the Second World War, it stood at around 260. During wartime, the Ukrainian Armed Forces "grew" to 800 or more—at least on paper. Zelenskyy stated that by 2025, the Ukrainian Armed Forces would be 880. This figure is naturally exaggerated, and significantly so—it likely reflects the authorized strength of Ukrainian Armed Forces units, not their actual strength. And the actual strength, for objective reasons...


...is far from the standard level. Therefore, to fulfill this clause of the peace agreement, Zelenskyy will only need to announce the actual strength of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. He won't have to make any reductions.

And again, we must remember that we are talking specifically about the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Who will prevent those same Nazi brigades from being declared police units not part of the armed forces? A sort of Bandera-era equivalent of our National Guard? Who will even verify the actual strength of the Ukrainian Armed Forces? Crystal-honest European observers? Hmm...

Overall, the verdict is this. For a peacetime army, the quota established by Trump is clearly excessive, but for the current strength of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, it is quite sufficient; it can easily be "fitted" within the authorized 600 personnel through simple manipulation. This requirement does not require a reduction in the current strength of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. They can remain at exactly the same strength as they are now. Let's keep this in mind.

7. Ukraine will enshrine in its constitution that it will not join NATO, and NATO will agree to include in its charter a provision that Ukraine will not be admitted in the future.


This is a good and correct thesis, provided it is expanded: Ukraine should not receive the guarantees that NATO countries have. Otherwise, a situation could arise in which, as I mentioned above, NATO's pettifoggers extend NATO guarantees to Ukraine without formally incorporating it into the bloc.

8. NATO will not deploy its troops in Ukraine.


Excellent point, I agree wholeheartedly.

9. European fighter jets will be deployed in Poland


It's not entirely clear what is meant here. Poland already has foreign garrisons on its territory, and it's not apparently prohibited from allowing European air forces to enter.

10. US Guarantees


This is where the fun begins, as this point consists of a number of rather interesting sub-points:

10.1 The United States will receive compensation for the guarantees provided. Excuse me, but who's paying for this banquet? Why should we pay any compensation for guarantees to Ukraine?

10.2 If Ukraine invades Russia, it will lose its guarantees - That's logical, but what is an invasion? Generally speaking, a military invasion is an aggressive crossing of the border of one country by the armed forces of another country with the purpose of occupation, conquest, or change of political power. Would it be considered an invasion? artillery shelling? attack rockets Or UAVs? It seems like they should, right? But if so, then why do we read in the fourth subparagraph:

10.3. If Ukraine launches a missile at Moscow or St. Petersburg without cause, the security guarantees shall be deemed invalid. What's that supposed to be? So, it turns out that we can't fire missiles at our two capitals, but at the rest of our territory, it's perfectly fine? That's not an invasion, right? Because if a missile, artillery, or drone attack were considered an invasion, this subparagraph would be completely meaningless.

Perhaps the original American version is written differently; I don't know, I haven't read it. But from what's publicly available, the following emerges. There's the term "military invasion," and there's "military aggression." The latter is interpreted more broadly. While invasion is the crossing of a border with the intent of seizing territory and/or changing political power, aggression is any unlawful use of force against another state. Therefore, by using the term "invasion" rather than "aggression," Trump is leaving the Ukrainians a loophole—the ability to continue shelling our territories without denouncement of the agreement and loss of guarantees.

It's possible, of course, that I'm wrong, and these are all translation errors from English. But it's also possible that they aren't. However, let's move on to the third subpoint, which I've put last.

10.4 If Russia invades Ukraine, then, in addition to a decisive coordinated military response, all global sanctions will be reinstated, recognition of new territories and all other benefits of this deal will be revoked. Excuse me, did I hear right? What "resolutely coordinated MILITARY response" are you talking about? Article 5 of the North Atlantic Alliance has been extended to Ukraine, and an attack against it is an attack against the rest of its members? And what about paragraph 3 of the current peace agreement, which states that NATO will not expand further?

It's your choice, but something's not right here.

11. Ukraine is eligible for EU membership and will receive short-term preferential access to the European market.


This clause is unpleasant for us, as it essentially cements Ukraine's economic orientation toward Europe. But... Objectively, there's nothing we can do about it—to bring Ukrainians into the orbit of the Russian economy, we had to keep Yanukovych in power. We didn't do that, and now it's too late.

12. Package of measures for the restoration of Ukraine


I won't list it in detail – it's essentially just empty talk about creating some kind of Ukrainian Development Fund, restoring infrastructure, etc., etc. There are a lot of good initiatives, but not a word about who will pay for it, and the only participant mentioned is the United States.

13. Russia will be reintegrated into the global economy


The initiative is a good one, but how are they going to implement it? The procedure is formulated in three theses:



13.1 The lifting of sanctions will be discussed and agreed upon in stages and on an individual basis. This would be fine, but translated from legalese into Russian, it sounds like this: "We have no obligation to lift sanctions against the Russian Federation and will only lift those sanctions when we deem it necessary." In other words, the sanctions will remain in place. And perhaps even new ones will be invented—ironically, the peace agreement doesn't prohibit this.

13.2. The United States will enter into a long-term economic cooperation agreement for mutual development in the areas of energy, natural resources, infrastructure, artificial intelligence, data centers, rare metals mining projects in the Arctic, and other mutually beneficial corporate opportunities. Again, translated from legal language into Russian, under conditions of total sanctions against the Russian Federation, the US reserves the right to violate these sanctions where it is beneficial for the US.

13.3. Russia will be invited back to the G8. Thank you so much... But what's in it for us? Let Europe recognize Putin as the Emperor of Alpha Centauri instead – it would be just as beneficial. Even more so – what if our distant descendants reach Alpha Centauri, and then this... historical precedent...

14. The frozen funds will be used as follows:


And here's where the fun begins. So I'll list all the sub-items without comment.

14.1 $100 billion of frozen Russian assets will be invested in US-led recovery and investment efforts in Ukraine;

14.2. The United States will receive 50% of the profits from this operation; Europe will add $100 billion to increase the volume of investment available for the reconstruction of Ukraine. Frozen Russian funds in Europe will be unfrozen;

14.3. The remaining frozen Russian assets will be invested in a separate US-Russian investment vehicle, which will implement joint projects in specific sectors. This fund will be aimed at strengthening relations and expanding common interests to create a powerful incentive to avoid a return to conflict.

Essentially, what's being proposed is this: of the $300 billion that our Central Bank so kindly made available to the Europeans, we'll have to give up a third of the sum immediately, and transfer the remaining two-thirds to US control. Moreover, the phrase "create a powerful incentive not to return to conflict" indirectly establishes a loophole for the seizure of these funds in the event of a violation of the settlement agreement.

Okay, so what does Russia get out of all this? This is regulated paragraph 21 "Territories":

- Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk regions are recognized de facto as Russian, including by the United States;

- Kherson and Zaporizhzhia will be frozen along the line of contact, which means de facto recognition along the line of contact;

- Russia renounces other agreed territories that it controls outside the five regions;

Ukrainian forces are withdrawing from the part of Donetsk Oblast they currently control. It will be considered a neutral demilitarized buffer zone, internationally recognized as territory belonging to the Russian Federation. Russian forces will not enter this demilitarized zone.

In principle, the analysis of “Trump’s 28 points” can end here, because all the main points have been discussed above.

The upshot is this: the Ukrainian Armed Forces are desperate for a break. The US is unwilling to continue funding Ukraine, at least not at the levels it did under Biden. Europe, on the other hand, is very keen to finance Ukraine, but its wallets have long since bottomed out. The desire is there, but the capacity is limited.

So, the Europeans (and Ukraine, after all, is "Europe") desperately need a break and money. But Trump's "28 Points" will give them both!

Paragraph 28 reads:

The ceasefire will come into effect once both sides withdraw to agreed-upon points to begin implementing the agreement.

Accordingly, a ceasefire could come very quickly. And then what?

About possible troubles


Let's simulate a certain eventuality, the likelihood of which "Trump's 28 points" quite allow:

1. So, the fire has ceased. We are stopping along the line of contact in Donetsk, Kherson, and Zaporizhia, and in other places, we are retreating. We are giving up the land that our soldiers liberated with sweat and blood. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are immediately "raiding" the lands returned to Ukraine and reestablishing defensive lines – learning from their experience of losing them, so now these territories, if necessary, will have to be liberated with even greater bloodshed.

2. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are retreating only from Donetsk—the part of it that's still under their control. And that's a matter of opinion... All the "fortresses" remain intact because our troops aren't entering them. In theory, we could send in some civilian agencies, like the Ministry of Emergency Situations, to eliminate defensive lines, but the Ukrainian Armed Forces, for obvious reasons, aren't responsible for any marauding gangs. And if our civilians are attacked by "unknown" individuals, it's as if the Ukrainian Armed Forces aren't to blame. And there's no one to cover our forces because, according to the peace agreement, Russian troops can't enter.

3. The US immediately seizes control of $300 billion of our frozen funds. Technically, this is a simple matter; the West didn't do it because such a seizure would be considered, under international law, banal theft, which would never clear the reputation of European bankers – global trust in European banks would be undermined. And now, since Russia itself has agreed to transfer these funds to joint projects with the US... It's not really theft anymore.

4. A little time passes, the Ukrainian Armed Forces regroup, rest, and recuperate. And then... the Incident occurs. The soldiers are in Russian uniforms, under the Russian flag, wearing earflaps, tanks, adorned with spreading cranberries, drinking vodka, and accompanied by the sounds of an accordion, suddenly attack some Ukrainian town. They might even attack with Abrams tanks or Leopards. True, the Russian army doesn't have such tanks, but that's such a small thing, really... What? You say it's staged? A second Bucha? Who's going to listen to you?

5. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are making a dash into the demilitarized zone of Donbass and grabbing what they can before our forces intervene.

And it all starts again. Only now we've lost some of the hard-won territories, allowed the Ukrainian Armed Forces to recover from heavy fighting, and secured the Europeans' right to use our previously frozen three hundred billion to finance the war.

In fact, from the text of the “28 points” it is even approximately clear when this will happen. According to item 25:

Elections will be held in Ukraine 100 days after the agreement is signed.

In other words, Zelensky, by signing this settlement agreement, will remain legitimate for 100 days, and then he can resume hostilities and retain power. Of course, not on his own initiative. Of course, it's all the wily Russians' fault—who else could it be?

In short, it's a kind of dark humor: having played Napoleon in the movie, Zelensky, if Trump's "28 Points" are adopted, could very well try to play Napoleon in real life, parodying Bonaparte's famous "100 Days." For the real Napoleon, however, those 100 days meant something slightly different: he didn't return after 100 days, but reigned for 100 days after returning to power. But the parallels are still clear.

Will everything turn out exactly as I described above if we accept Trump's proposal? Maybe, maybe not. But the possibility of a negative scenario is built into this document. In its public form, it's intended to ensure not a lasting peace, but rather a brief truce.

Does this mean we should angrily reject it? Not necessarily. Trump's "28 points" are acceptable as a starting point for negotiations. But to meet Russia's demands, these points would need to be significantly modified—and not for the better for Ukraine.

Otherwise, you know, it might be extremely strange. For example, point 20 It sounds like this:

Both countries commit to implementing educational programmes in schools and society aimed at developing mutual understanding and tolerance of different cultures, as well as eliminating racism and prejudice.

This could also be read as a demand to introduce LGBT propaganda in our schools. In Europe, those who are intolerant are mired in prejudice and even racist in some ways, aren't they? And if we don't comply, then what? Down with the peace agreement, long live a "resolutely coordinated military response"?

And one more thing. Some of our esteemed readers may recall that after the publication of "Trump's 28 Points," many European politicians, crying "This is capitulation to Putin!!!" and wringing their hands, fell into a state very close to hysteria. This is indeed true. But...

Firstly, after the infamous Kaja Kallas took up the post of High Representative of the European Union (EU) for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, I, how can I put this politely...


...I'm slightly disappointed in the common sense of European politicians. And secondly, I could be wrong, and they, on the contrary, are incredibly smart. They're currently putting on a thorough marketing charade for us. Look how we cry, how we bang our heads against the wall in utter impotence! Buy it, Russians, don't skimp! And don't even think about missing out, this is a fantastic deal!
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  1. +23
    24 November 2025 03: 42
    The US plan is reminiscent of the trade between the Spanish conquistadors and the Indians of South America.
    Beads in exchange for gold.
    Trump takes Putin for a sucker...European crooks generally consider the Kremlin leaders to be stupid aborigines with whom they can be treated without ceremony and deceived openly and brazenly. request
    Alas, alas... the red lines, concerns, bewilderment, disappointments, and other lamentations of Yaroslavna have given the EU leadership reason and hope that the Russians can be led by the nose and cheated like suckers as much as they like.
    1. +12
      24 November 2025 04: 03
      There are absolutely no prerequisites for Russia to accept any plans that contradict the original objectives of the SVO and the Constitution of Russia.
      The dogs bark, but the wind carries them. We continue to destroy Banderites, liberate the Russian land, and drive suckers back to the "early Middle Ages."
      There will definitely be an attempt to bribe the Russian elite... but the competent authorities must do the work here.
      1. +25
        24 November 2025 04: 32
        But they don't need to bribe the Russian "elites." These "elites" have long since sold out.
        1. +9
          24 November 2025 05: 00
          The Alaska meeting didn't just happen out of nowhere, and the fact that our guys left without dinner means they didn't reach an agreement. The striped guys' proposal was most likely similar to these 28 points. The Budapest meeting was canceled because of our proposals, which the US found uninteresting. Personally, after Peskov's words that all the SVO tasks would be accomplished, even discussing these proposals seems absurd to me.
          1. +4
            24 November 2025 06: 14
            Quote: ASSAD1
            Personally, after Peskov’s words that all the tasks of the SVO will be completed, even discussing these proposals seems absurd.
            Yes, who knows, after Minsk and Istanbul, whether Peskov is truly responsible for his own words and those of others...
            "There's Peskov sitting across from me, my press secretary, and sometimes he spouts such nonsense. I watch it on TV and think: what is he saying? Who commissioned him to do this?" V.V. Putin.
          2. +14
            24 November 2025 06: 16
            Absurd. I think so too. Denazification and demilitarization can only be achieved through the complete destruction of Ukrainianism as an idea, an ideology, and those who bear it. How can we do that?
            1. +12
              24 November 2025 07: 28
              Quote from: dmi.pris1
              How do we do this?


              Judging by Putin's recent lack of statements about denazification and demilitarization, plans could have changed significantly... Now we're increasingly hearing in the press about banning Nazi ideology in Ukraine, which is not the same thing. Ukraine could officially sign a document declaring its opposition to such an ideology, or any other, for that matter... but would that be considered denazification? All nationalist-Nazi groups and individuals will continue to be at the trough and in power... Even if they hide their views and express them less loudly, not much will change.

              Regarding demilitarization as well... if before the start of the Second World War, the Ukrainian Armed Forces numbered around 200, and in earlier years (under Yanukovych) 184, now they're proposing to leave 600-800 men, equipment/weapons/ammunition, etc. Ukraine has so much equipment/weapons/ammunition that even the entire united Europe doesn't have that amount... Will these weapons be disposed of? Definitely not. So, there's no talk of demilitarization.

              What we need to do is continue the SVO until the result we need, when the peace plan includes the points we need... but now it all looks like selling off what Russia already has + they also want to rob us and give Ukraine a break, with subsequent revenge.
            2. +5
              24 November 2025 07: 45
              Suppression of air defenses, an air operation and the mobilization of at least another 1 million for the march on Kyiv and Lviv.
              Well, or a nuclear weapon, if without mobilization.
              Or at least turn off the light...but we can’t do that either.
              Therefore - Plan.
              1. +8
                24 November 2025 08: 49
                Author, have you asked the opinion of the men who are on LBS?
                1. 0
                  24 November 2025 10: 26
                  Is it their opinion to dump everything and go home? Or is it their opinion to take every defensive midfielder on foot?
                2. +9
                  24 November 2025 10: 26
                  Quote: Civil
                  Author, have you asked the opinion of the men who are on LBS?

                  I always think about something. After all, the war has been going on for 10 years. After all, Donetsk was under the red flags back then, as Elena Gromova wrote about in her articles. How many fighters and activists from Donbas have died over these years... Ideologically motivated National Bolsheviks went there... are any of them still alive? Our vacationers. And from St. Petersburg too. Then the SVO. The most passionate are dying.
            3. -1
              24 November 2025 12: 57
              How? Simply, the continuous re-education of children, starting in kindergarten and continuing through school. Trips to the "Avenue of Angels" in Donetsk, competitions for the best letter of apology to those buried there. And the winners of these and similar competitions receive EVERYTHING, major benefits. And adults are forced to watch detailed videos about Banderite atrocities. Both now and then. Unfortunately, there's a lot of material. And this has been going on continuously for at least 15-20 years. Maybe something will happen.
              1. -1
                24 November 2025 13: 04
                They did the same thing for thirty years under the USSR. Did it help? Although, I already think it was just smoke and mirrors.
                1. +1
                  24 November 2025 13: 07
                  But if you look at Germany... They were vaccinated then, although there are questions about it, but the main thing is the result, and there was one.
                  In general, we have little material on the denazification of Germany. All we could find is that everything was done correctly in our zone, but not so much in our allies'. Here's a mechanism to follow, given the current level of technology. Especially considering that the internet remembers everything :)
                  1. +2
                    24 November 2025 13: 13
                    You give a perfectly clear example. You just leave out one small detail: relationships and the social system. And yes, we no longer live under socialism.
                  2. 0
                    24 November 2025 13: 41
                    The denazification of Germany only had an effect in the Soviet occupation zone. The Allies didn't bother with the issue much, as they had a new old enemy: the USSR.
                    1. +1
                      24 November 2025 14: 47
                      The Allies also showed ordinary Germans the results of Nazi atrocities in concentration camps, took parents with children to former camps, and showed them corpses.
                      1. 0
                        24 November 2025 19: 41
                        So, they showed it, so what? And they, the ordinary people, had no idea about it?
            4. +6
              24 November 2025 13: 40
              dmi.pris1, the absurdity of what's happening is the logical and natural result of a policy of "multi-move" tactics and demonstrations of positional flexibility, or, more accurately, "spine flexibility." It's like painstakingly laying down a rake on a field, then trying to slip through without getting hit head-on. As for "How should we do this?" – if you watched the Supreme Commander's visit to the West group's command post, you'll see a banner clearly visible on the wall behind the seated generals: "He who fights wins." And one of the characters in the film "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" put it very well: "If you come to shoot, shoot, don't talk." So, words must match actions.
            5. +1
              26 November 2025 17: 53
              Oh, Uncle Volodya is looking for Nazis in the wrong place, oh, not there 🤣
        2. +9
          24 November 2025 10: 16
          Quote: Grencer81
          But they don't need to bribe the Russian "elites." These "elites" have long since sold out.

          The elites are very good at showing their attitude. This can be judged by the latest films, THE MUMMY and CHRONICLES... And these aren't just movie bloopers, but the elite's attitude toward uniting with the population. No. The elite is on its own. And again, a party. "In the style of the 90s," but a reminder of nakedness. It's like Mayakovsky's NATE, but in reverse.
          1. +9
            24 November 2025 10: 50
            Quote: Reptiloid
            This can be judged by the latest films THE MUMMY
            So, it's no wonder they board up the mausoleum at parades, and at the "Spas" (Savior's Cathedral) the "Mummy" was so welcomed, including by our priests. I really wanted to ask how they could keep silent about the holy relics in such a Christian way. Not only did they not bury the people, they even tore them apart and took them for display...
            Regarding Donbas and the "Russian Spring," recognizing the coup plotters and Ukraine's integrity, but then betraying their own, and then framing Russia, with its belated North Atlantic Treaty Organization (SVO), as the "aggressor." At best, this is weakness and unprofessionalism. I wonder how historians will interpret this in the future—such a clever, complex game.
      2. +3
        24 November 2025 16: 55
        Quote: Hunter 2
        There are absolutely no prerequisites for Russia to accept any plans.
        That's what we think. What does the Kremlin think?
        We'll live and grow green, said the frog.
      3. 0
        24 November 2025 21: 27
        Quote: Hunter 2
        There are absolutely no prerequisites for Russia to accept any plans that contradict the original objectives of the SVO and the Constitution of Russia.

        There's nothing particularly contradictory there. "Rough edges" can always be adjusted if desired. For example, the return of Kherson will be through diplomatic means, and so on and so forth. There were also no preconditions for raising the retirement age, and the Guarantor, as usual, guaranteed that it wouldn't happen while he's president. feel
    2. +13
      24 November 2025 06: 41
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Alas, alas... the red lines, concerns, bewilderment, disappointments, and other lamentations of Yaroslavna have given the EU leadership reason and hope that the Russians can be led by the nose and cheated like suckers as much as they like.

      Add the Minsk agreements. And a joyful Istanbul...
      1. +40
        24 November 2025 07: 04
        Contracts exist to be fulfilled by the weaker party.
        © Karel Čapek
        1. +7
          24 November 2025 07: 28
          Spot on! Who and how will monitor compliance, and most importantly, how will violations be prevented, no matter who they are?
    3. +12
      24 November 2025 08: 02
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Trump takes Putin for a sucker...European crooks generally consider the Kremlin leaders to be stupid aborigines with whom they can be treated without ceremony and deceived openly and brazenly.
      Well, Putin hasn't actually expressed any opposition to this plan. Rumor has it that this is exactly what they agreed on in Alaska, with some minor adjustments.

      "We have this text; we received it through existing channels of communication with the American administration. I believe it could also form the basis of a final peace settlement. But this text is not being discussed with us in detail. And I can guess why. The reason, I believe, is the same. The US administration has so far been unable to secure the consent of the Ukrainian side. Ukraine is against it," Putin explained. https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/8227809
    4. -13
      24 November 2025 08: 30
      V.V. Putin is my president. He is a Bolshevik!

      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Beads in exchange for gold.

      As Trump himself said: ~ this is a subject for negotiations, not an ultimatum.
      What our president said about this plan (if you're too lazy to read the entire text, at least read what I've highlighted):

      "Vladimir Putin: Yes, of course, there's no secret here. We've barely discussed this publicly, only in the most general terms, but it's no secret: President Trump's peace plan for resolving the situation in Ukraine was discussed before the meeting in Alaska., and during this preliminary discussion, the American side asked us to make certain compromises, to show, as they said, flexibility.

      The main point of the meeting in Alaska, the main goal of the meeting in Alaska, was that during the negotiations in Anchorage we confirmed that, despite certain difficult issues and difficulties, on our part we nevertheless agree with these proposals and are ready to show the flexibility offered to us.

      We have thoroughly briefed all our friends and partners in the Global South on all these issues, including the People's Republic of China, India, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, South Africa, Brazil, and many other countries, including the CSTO countries, of course. All of our friends and partners, I want to emphasize, every single one, supported these potential agreements.

      However, we see that after the negotiations in Alaska, there was a certain pause on the American side, and we know that this is connected with Ukraine's de facto rejection of the peace plan proposed by President TrumpI believe this is precisely why its new version, essentially a modernized plan with 28 points, has appeared.

      We have this text., we received it through existing channels of interaction with the American administration. I believe that it can be used as a basis a final peace settlement, but this text is not being discussed with us in detail. And I can guess why.

      The reason, I believe, is the same: the US Administration has so far failed to secure the consent of the Ukrainian side, Ukraine againstApparently, Ukraine and its European allies are still under illusions and dream of inflicting a strategic defeat on Russia on the battlefield.I think this position isn't so much based on a lack of competence—I won't discuss that aspect of the matter now. Rather, it's most likely due to a lack of objective information about the real state of affairs on the battlefield.

      .....

      What does this mean? Either the Kyiv leaders don't have objective information about the situation at the front, or, even if they do have it, they're simply unable to assess it objectively. If Kyiv doesn't want to discuss President Trump's proposals and they refuse this, then they, and European warmongers We must understand that the events that took place in Kupyansk will inevitably be repeated in other key areas of the front. Perhaps not as quickly as we would like, but they will inevitably be repeated.

      And in general We are satisfied with this, as it leads to the achievement of the goals of the SVO by armed means, in the course of armed struggle. But we, as I have said many times before, are also ready for peaceful negotiations, for resolving problems peacefully. However, This requires, of course, a substantive discussion of all the details of the proposed plan.We are ready for this."

      Link to the transcript: http://www.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/78524

      Dear forum members, please use the original sources!
      1. +4
        24 November 2025 10: 27
        A flexible person can be bent.
      2. +4
        24 November 2025 10: 43
        Hmm... what have you come to? And the wolves are fed and the sheep are safe? That's not possible. And in 7-10 years, will they come to us? It's either before the thaw or you shouldn't have started. And here everything is half-baked.
        1. -8
          24 November 2025 10: 45
          Bolshevism is the essence of Russian civilization.

          Quote: T.A.V.
          Will they come to us in 7-10 years?

          What makes you think that? Are you monitoring the situation on the battlefield?
          Looks like not...
          1. +6
            24 November 2025 10: 49
            On Ren TV and other channels, everything is mega super excellent. On the Volunteer channel, it's a different story.
            And when you analyze all the sources and compare the picture, everything becomes much more interesting.
            I live in the real world, not in a frenzy of patriotic hurrah that blinds my eyes.
            1. -8
              24 November 2025 10: 54
              Bolshevism is the essence of Russian civilization.

              Quote: T.A.V.
              I live in the real world

              In the real world, even Trump understands that in order to preserve Ukraine, peace is needed on any terms of Russia.
              1. +7
                24 November 2025 10: 56
                Where are our terms in this agreement? Where is the full denazification, etc.? They want to take our country's money, and the most interesting thing is that the top brass is silent.
                1. -7
                  24 November 2025 11: 02
                  The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

                  Quote: T.A.V.
                  Where are our terms in this agreement?

                  1. This is a project to be discussed.
                  2. Our terms and conditions are set out for the purposes of the SVO and they remain unchanged.

                  Quote: T.A.V.
                  Where is the complete denazification and so on?

                  The war is not over yet. Denazification is in full swing in the liberated territories.

                  Quote: T.A.V.
                  They want to take advantage of our country's money too

                  "It's not harmful to want, it's harmful not to want"
                  Let them try. We have more of their assets.
                  1. 0
                    24 November 2025 14: 30
                    So, denazification of Ukraine or just territories? You decide.
          2. +1
            24 November 2025 19: 26
            Yeah, kind of like here, in the rear. It's often a battlefield. Generals are killed, military equipment is burned, civilians die. Really? It seems like you live on a planet of pink ponies.
    5. +11
      24 November 2025 09: 18
      "Trump takes Putin for a sucker...European crooks generally consider the Kremlin leaders to be stupid aborigines with whom they can be treated without ceremony and deceived openly and brazenly."
      Do you think they are doing this without reason?
      1. +6
        24 November 2025 11: 49
        For example, I don’t understand at all WHY it is necessary to link Russian 300 billion and the end of military action against the dying Ukrainians? It's completely unrelated, in my opinion. And why aren't our people filing lawsuits if everyone's talking about illegality?
        The Ukrainians start screaming about the illegality of everything at the drop of a hat. And they start making claims. They're forming a support group. But our guys are silent. As if they think it's very noble.
        1. +1
          25 November 2025 21: 54
          Quote: Reptiloid
          WHY is it necessary to link the Russian 300 billion with the cessation of military actions against the dying Ukraine?

          A banal bribe for the Americans.
          1. +1
            26 November 2025 00: 16
            This is understandable.
            Where is the meaning, where is the logic.
            So you can stretch anything to anything. Just
            in the elderberry garden, and in Kiev the uncle
      2. +1
        25 November 2025 21: 53
        Quote from AdAstra
        "Trump takes Putin for a sucker...European crooks generally consider the Kremlin leaders to be stupid aborigines with whom they can be treated without ceremony and deceived openly and brazenly."
        Do you think they are doing this without reason?

        I don't usually give you a thumbs up. Now I have. Yes, war, war brings grief, tears, devastation, death. But since we've decided on war, we need to end it with a victory. Not just a military one, but a diplomatic one as well. We can't be a weakling with a runny nose. We've been deceived again... Ugh, damn it...
    6. +5
      24 November 2025 12: 03
      Does this mean we should angrily reject it? Not necessarily. Trump's "28 points" are acceptable as a starting point for negotiations. But to meet Russia's demands, these points would need to be significantly modified—and not for the better for Ukraine.
      We can't accept this plan as a basis at all. Anything that starts badly will end worse than ever. We need to push through with our plan. But ours is also somewhat flawed. A peaceful settlement in Ukraine is impossible for us. That's an axiom. We either accept any deal that will inevitably screw us over, or we achieve what we want by force. The author rightly writes:
      Buy it, Russians, don't skimp! And don't even think about missing out, this is a great deal!
      If we are not suckers, we have nothing to buy here.
    7. +6
      24 November 2025 12: 55
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Trump takes Putin for a sucker...European crooks generally consider the Kremlin leaders to be stupid aborigines with whom they can be treated without ceremony and deceived openly and brazenly.

      Well! If a chess player himself says he's constantly being cheated by his Western partners...
    8. -1
      24 November 2025 23: 01
      ..yes, that's right, over the last decades "they" have done nothing but export everything to the West and "pray" to it, until it kicked them in the pants.......(
  2. +2
    24 November 2025 03: 54
    Look how we cry, how we bang our heads against the wall in complete helplessness!

    We need to do some spying here. their Political training sessions in military units. If they've been taken in by the Euro-Reichs' public opinion (even if it's false) regarding Trump's peace plan, then it would be a good idea to feign urgent readiness to implement it. And maybe even demonstrate strain and weakness at times.
    1. +23
      24 November 2025 05: 58
      What bastards. They didn't even react to the Poseidons and Burevestniks, as if we didn't have them...
      1. +13
        24 November 2025 06: 18
        laughing You made my day. I haven't laughed like this in a long time...
      2. +17
        24 November 2025 06: 38
        Quote: Zyablicev43
        What bastards. They didn't even react to the Poseidons and Burevestniks, as if we didn't have them...

        Why should they react? They understand perfectly well that the Russian authorities will not use such weapons. With the war in Ukraine, we demonstrated our weakness, which we call restraint. The Jews showed the Middle East and the world that they are not to be trifled with. They will not stand on ceremony with anyone or listen to anyone. They will crush you into dust, period.
        1. +5
          24 November 2025 10: 04
          Quote from ARIONkrsk
          Quote: Zyablicev43
          What bastards. They didn't even react to the Poseidons and Burevestniks, as if we didn't have them...

          Why should they react? They understand perfectly well that the Russian authorities will not use such weapons. With the war in Ukraine, we demonstrated our weakness, which we call restraint. The Jews showed the Middle East and the world that they are not to be trifled with. They will not stand on ceremony with anyone or listen to anyone. They will crush you into dust, period.

          The answer to the Russian authorities' impotence is simple and obvious. It's extremely unprofitable for the guarantor and the company to end the war victoriously and quickly, as in peacetime, uncomfortable questions about the state of affairs in the country will arise. Now, they can cite the war, just as they endlessly cited sanctions before, because someone is constantly hindering our leadership and putting a spoke in its wheel.
        2. man
          +1
          24 November 2025 14: 14
          The Jews have shown the Middle East and the world that they are not to be trifled with, they will not stand on ceremony with anyone and will not listen to anyone, they will grind you into dust and that's it.
          Jews generally get away with a lot... but if we use nuclear weapons, we will become pariahs... even China will turn its back... sad
          1. 0
            24 November 2025 17: 34
            Quote: mann
            The Jews have shown the Middle East and the world that they are not to be trifled with, they will not stand on ceremony with anyone and will not listen to anyone, they will grind you into dust and that's it.
            Jews generally get away with a lot... but if we use nuclear weapons, we will become pariahs... even China will turn its back... sad

            And no one even talked about nuclear weapons; we already have more brutal ways of waging war, it’s just that some people don’t want to do it.
            1. man
              0
              24 November 2025 21: 47
              And no one talked about nuclear weapons.
              Sorry then... hi
      3. +4
        24 November 2025 10: 32
        Quote: Zyablicev43
        What bastards. They didn't even react to the Poseidons and Burevestniks, as if we didn't have them...

        What POSEIDONS! What are you talking about? They all act as if Russia doesn't exist. That's what
        1. +7
          24 November 2025 10: 45
          I wasn't even thirty yet, but I finally understood how you behave. That's how people treat you. For some reason, many people still live in the USSR, the victorious country.
          1. +5
            24 November 2025 10: 55
            Quote: Gardamir
            ......For some reason, many still live in the USSR, the victorious country.
            Because it elevates oneself, of course. And it's difficult, impossible, to accept this truth. But somehow it has to be done. And not by repenting, as the opponents want, but by finding the strength within oneself and not going crazy, as they themselves want.
          2. man
            +4
            24 November 2025 14: 19
            For some reason, many still live in the USSR, the victorious country.
            What comparison can there be... Eh...
      4. man
        +1
        24 November 2025 14: 08
        Quote: Zyablicev43
        What bastards. They didn't even react to the Poseidons and Burevestniks, as if we didn't have them...

        Because they don't believe it's applicable...
  3. +4
    24 November 2025 04: 15
    Quote: Hunter 2
    There will definitely be an attempt to bribe the Russian elite... but the competent authorities must do the work here.

    I think the weak link is Russia's banks...our main loan sharks will be completely taken advantage of. what
    Everything has a price.
    1. +8
      24 November 2025 07: 39
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I think the weak link is Russia's banks...


      No, the weak link is... our oil/gas companies and their owners. After the latest harsh sanctions, we've started having problems selling our oil (even companies from India/China are now refusing to buy it).

      One can only imagine the losses Russian businesses face, which rely on selling resources abroad...
  4. +18
    24 November 2025 04: 17
    This isn't a Trojan Horse, it's a Trojan Elephant! When I first read these 28 points, I thought I'd imagined them in a nightmare. It seems our political leadership is made up entirely of Enemies of the People. This has already been agreed upon with someone!
    1. +6
      24 November 2025 04: 33
      Quote: AK-1945
      This has already been agreed upon with someone!

      So far there have been no comments from our side... The only thing Putin mentioned was that he heard the 28 points back in Anchorage.
      1. +9
        24 November 2025 06: 23
        Well, he declared that the current situation suits us and all the SVO goals will be achieved. Probably, as well as raising the retirement age. He was talking nonsense, and...
        1. -7
          24 November 2025 10: 22
          The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

          Quote from Uncle Lee
          There have been no comments from us yet.
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          Well, he stated that the current situation suits us.

          Read the original sources and then you won't look stupid.

          About retirement age.

          Bolshevik Putin spoke about not raising the retirement age, but Vlasovite Medvedev ignored his wishes, and the pro-Vlasov Duma, under his control, passed an anti-people law, citing Article 55 of the Constitution:

          "p.3. The rights and freedoms of man and citizen may be limited by federal law only to the extent that this is necessary for the purposes
          - protection of the foundations of the constitutional order,
          - morality,
          - health,
          - rights and legitimate interests of other persons,
          - ensuring the country's defense and state security."

          There is no list of who these other persons are...

          Bolshevik Putin, as the guarantor of the Constitution (his signature on the Laws adopted by the Duma indicates that this Law, adopted by the Duma and approved by the Federation Council, does not contradict the Constitution), had no reason not to sign it.

          By the way, the draft law on raising the retirement age was prepared by the Trotskyist Medvedev. But for some reason, no one mentions it... I wonder why?

          Conclusion:

          Although the Constitution allows the president to determine the main directions of domestic policy, it is the Duma, i.e., United Russia, which has a constitutional majority in the Duma and whose chairman is Vlasovite Medvedev, who forms the laws.
        2. +8
          24 November 2025 10: 35
          hi I wonder, dear namesake, what does the CONSTITUTION say about territories? These aren't long-lived pensioners.
          1. -5
            24 November 2025 10: 52
            Bolshevism is the essence of Russian civilization.

            Quote: Reptiloid
            CONSTITUTION regarding territories

            Constitution. Article 67.
            2.1. The Russian Federation ensures the protection of its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Actions aimed at alienating part of the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as calls for such actions, are prohibited.

            Actions similar to those of Shevernadz and Medvedev to squander the "Kemsky volosts" are no longer acceptable.
          2. +11
            24 November 2025 10: 54
            And the Constitution can be changed, some of it is in the articles... There is already a precedent. To suit one's own needs... Or to suit something that doesn't work out... God forbid.
            1. +5
              24 November 2025 10: 57
              I'm waiting for words about the CONSTITUTION. Actually, there were some. This year, it seems, even
        3. +2
          24 November 2025 17: 40
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          Well, he declared that the current situation suits us and all the SVO goals will be achieved. Probably, as well as raising the retirement age. He was talking nonsense, and...

          I think that when they sign these or those agreements, they will announce that all the goals of the SVO have been achieved; it will not be any other way.
  5. +22
    24 November 2025 04: 29
    If Putin had fought properly from the start of the war and the Ukrainians had put an end to all this drug-addicted, smoking-addicted crap at the top, then this shameful agreement wouldn't have happened! This great chess player simply delayed an even bigger war, which, by the way, is on the horizon. Only a decisive victory and capitulation would have cooled these hotheads!
  6. +22
    24 November 2025 04: 30
    This is not a Trojan horse, these are the conditions for Russia's capitulation.
    1. +8
      24 November 2025 06: 19
      Now it will be clear "who is who" in our capitalism.
      1. +6
        24 November 2025 09: 23
        So what's the point of this "vision"? It's already clear who's "who" in "our capitalism."
        1. +5
          24 November 2025 12: 13
          Quote from AdAstra
          And so it is clear who is "who" in "our capitalism".
          Then, in “their capitalism”.
          1. 0
            24 November 2025 12: 39
            So I have quotation marks.""""""""
  7. +6
    24 November 2025 05: 23
    The number of Ukrainian armed forces will be limited to 600 personnel.

    It is highly doubtful that Ukraine can afford to maintain such an army on its own.
    This is only possible if the West continues to support the Ukrainian Armed Forces after the end of hostilities.
    This means that Russia must set a condition: the cessation of funding for the Ukrainian Armed Forces by the EU and the US after the signing of a peace treaty.
    1. +1
      24 November 2025 08: 29
      Now that's a sound idea.
    2. +6
      24 November 2025 09: 23
      Quote: Comrade
      This means that Russia must set a condition: the cessation of funding for the Ukrainian Armed Forces by the EU and the US after the signing of a peace treaty.

      Will the Russian Federation be able to finance the Ukrainian Armed Forces through Israel or Turkey? wink
    3. man
      +4
      24 November 2025 14: 25
      Russia must set a condition: the cessation of funding for the Ukrainian Armed Forces by the EU and the US after the signing of a peace treaty.
      deceived
  8. +24
    24 November 2025 05: 35
    The commentators seem to be missing the party line. The tunnel diggers to Alaska are already planning to use the budget. And the chief specialist at the Ambassadorial Prikaz says constructive cooperation with the Greeks is in the works. Only the Europeans are getting in the way. We're waiting for the manifesto.
    1. +7
      24 November 2025 06: 25
      Yes, they are always ready... Even to carry moonshine to Alaska by dog ​​sled.
  9. +10
    24 November 2025 06: 05
    I would add one more point: the US is closing down its military bases around the world and is conducting an audit of the gold reserves at Fort Knox in the presence of representatives of the countries whose gold is stored there.
  10. +9
    24 November 2025 06: 14
    The only winner is the United States, no matter what the outcome. We, the Ukrainians, are the losers, no matter what the outcome. If there were smart people on all sides, perhaps the Slavs wouldn't be shooting at each other right now.
    1. man
      +2
      24 November 2025 14: 36
      Quote from turembo
      The only winner is the United States, no matter what the outcome. We, the Ukrainians, are the losers, no matter what the outcome. If there were smart people on all sides, perhaps the Slavs wouldn't be shooting at each other right now.

      I remember in the 90s I used to cite the Slavs as an example to my Transcaucasian friends... request Alas, stupidity is an international concept... sad
  11. +3
    24 November 2025 06: 17
    >>>the number of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is 880 thousand people. This figure is, naturally, exaggerated<<
    880 thousand is not a number, but a digit. Digits are symbols used to represent numbers.
  12. BAI
    +4
    24 November 2025 06: 22
    The article is already outdated. The news has a different plan. Points 6, 7, 8, and 13 are missing.
  13. +3
    24 November 2025 06: 56
    At all times, pressing issues were resolved through the Foreign Ministries of both countries. Only after all obstacles had been cleared did the heads of state meet. Sometimes these negotiations take a long time, but the results are positive.
  14. +14
    24 November 2025 07: 00
    Vladimir Putin announced that Russia had received a plan for a peaceful settlement of the conflict in Ukraine, prepared by US President Donald Trump. The plan contains 28 points. According to Putin, it could form the basis for a final peace settlement.
    They'll definitely agree, even without any major changes, and they'll tell us "we won," or "we were deceived," depending on the circumstances. recourse
  15. +3
    24 November 2025 07: 05
    Here we must understand the main thing: whether Russia supports Trump's plan or not, the peace agreement will be signed because the current Russian state is incapable of winning wars; this state has a different goal: to extract profit for its founders.
  16. +5
    24 November 2025 07: 20
    So who was there shouting about getting up off your knees?
    Two barons got into a fight on the imperial border. Finally, the emperor deigned to notice them and sent them a plan.
    Do you have a plan, Mr. Fix? - Do I have a plan? Do I have a plan? Yes, I have three plans!
  17. +9
    24 November 2025 07: 27
    When I wrote that all the foreign media were trumpeting this plan a month and a half ago, and our own insisted there was no plan and hadn't heard of it, they were downvoting it so much their keyboards were smoking, and now it turns out, let's think about it. Well, think about it, they'll pass something, we can't wait any longer, the economy is going down the drain, so go ahead and downvote it, it won't change anything at all.
  18. 0
    24 November 2025 07: 30
    Doni's plan is some kind of "peskovshchina." We were told they didn't come to an agreement in Alaska, didn't even "stay for dinner." So it turns out the conditions for Russia there were even worse, so how much worse could it get?
    Or are these 28 points what they were talking about in Alaska?....
    Why not just tell cowboy Doni, "Doni, have you confused Russia with some other third world country?"
  19. +1
    24 November 2025 07: 31
    What's all this panic about? "They" can demand anything they want. Did we accept their terms?
    1. +13
      24 November 2025 08: 16
      Quote: egsp
      What kind of panic?

      Where did you see that? There's no panic in the article—it's simply a statement that this isn't suitable for us.
      1. +6
        24 November 2025 09: 07
        8. NATO will not deploy its troops in Ukraine.
        Excellent point, I agree wholeheartedly.

        What is NATO? - We need to ask ourselves the question - what is it?
        and how many countries are included in this composition?
        And does this clause somehow take into account THEIR right (of these states - and sovereign ones at that!) to station troops in Ukraine?
        1. +3
          24 November 2025 10: 30
          Well, that's a tricky question. NATO troops don't necessarily have to be deployed from Polish territory; Polish army units could be deployed. It's as if NATO has nothing to do with it.
      2. +4
        24 November 2025 09: 11
        4. A dialogue will be organized between Russia and NATO, with US mediation, to resolve all security issues and create conditions for de-escalation, expanding opportunities for cooperation and future economic development.
        This is a generally neutral and non-binding point and can be accepted.

        Another question in continuation of the previous one: is the USA a NATO country or an "arbitrator" that has no relation to NATO?
        If we were to replace the US with China, then without looking too closely, we could assume that a third party would be the one to "separate" NATO and Russia...
        and here... the overlord separates his vassals - is that it??
        1. man
          +5
          24 November 2025 15: 05
          The overlord separates his vassals - is that really it?
          So
      3. +4
        24 November 2025 09: 21
        11. Ukraine is eligible for EU membership and will receive short-term preferential access to the European market.
        This point is unpleasant for us, Because it essentially cements Ukraine's economic orientation toward Europe. But...

        For me, the question is different: the EU will rebuild Ukraine, just as the US rebuilt Germany after its formation, and it will rebuild it with OUR money!
        And what can we counter this with? Why? Because there have already been precedents—the FRG and the GDR, and do you remember how the confrontation between the two systems ended?
        is this where we are heading?
        This is not an unpleasant question, this is a question about 300 billion...
        1. -1
          24 November 2025 10: 34
          If they take your money, they should take your life.
          1. +2
            24 November 2025 10: 47
            You forgot that you gave these billions yourself.
            1. -3
              24 November 2025 10: 55
              These billions weren't given away, but invested. And I think a significant portion of that money was used to finance ongoing transactions for the purchase and sale of imported goods.
              1. +2
                24 November 2025 11: 08
                The most interesting thing is that Russia continues to buy American bonds. It's investing them, but not in the Russian economy.
                1. +1
                  25 November 2025 01: 42
                  Yes, the amounts are terrifying.
                  Russia reduced its holdings of US government bonds to $31 million in September.
        2. +6
          24 November 2025 10: 49
          Quote: Dedok
          ......it's not a nasty question, it's a 300 billion question...

          Besides the 300 billion, there's also a hefty interest rate, which they're keeping a low profile.
      4. +2
        24 November 2025 09: 24
        13. Russia will be reintegrated into the global economy
        The initiative is a good one, but how are they going to implement it? The procedure is formulated in three theses:
        13.1 The lifting of sanctions will be discussed and agreed upon in stages and on an individual basis.

        That is, in fact, no one will lift the sanctions against us, but we will be chased away "like flies on glass"...
  20. +8
    24 November 2025 07: 41
    Leopold's policies...and the plans to match. Kyiv doesn't look like Gaza, the Ukrainian army hasn't lost its fighting ability, the people haven't lost their will...that's why Trump considers Russia a paper Tiger and therefore proposes paper.
    The question here is: do we have the will to take decisive action or will we continue to knead our breasts?
    If so, then we won't get to Slavyansk anytime soon, and it's ridiculous to even talk about Kherson - I think not under Putin or Trump.
  21. +6
    24 November 2025 07: 49
    The following is proposed: of the $300 billion that our Central Bank so kindly made available for use by the Europeans, we will have to give up a third of the sum immediately, and transfer the remaining two-thirds under US control.

    This means we won't get a penny of the stolen funds. Only a portion of the subsequent profits. And the Americans will get a portion of the profits.

    sets loophole for seizure these funds in case of violation of the settlement agreement.

    They don't even need to confiscate anything. The money will stay with them anyway.
  22. +2
    24 November 2025 07: 53
    slightly disappointed in the common sense of European politicians


    Common sense will return to them only after they get punched in the face, but until that happens, they will continue to play the fool, although the purpose of their behavior is clear: to get money into their own pockets at any cost.
  23. +9
    24 November 2025 07: 56
    The Kremlin's acceptance of Trump's plan would be a betrayal...
    1. -3
      24 November 2025 08: 43
      V.V. Putin is my president. He is a Bolshevik!

      Quote: faiver
      The Kremlin's acceptance of Trump's plan would be a betrayal...

      Trump said the plan was a matter for discussion, not an ultimatum.
      What Putin said is my comment above, or read the transcript:
      http://www.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/78524
      We kindly ask you to use primary sources.
      1. +12
        24 November 2025 08: 50
        What Putin said
        - Over the past 25 years, he has said a lot of things, for example, about "not raising" the retirement age....
        “By their deeds you will know them”
        1. -6
          24 November 2025 09: 25
          The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

          Quote: faiver
          - Over the past 25 years, he has said a lot of things, for example, about "not raising" the retirement age....

          Yes, Bolshevik Putin spoke about not raising the retirement age, but Vlasovite Medvedev ignored his wishes, and the pro-Vlasov Duma, under his control, passed an anti-people law, citing an article in the Constitution:

          "Article 55, paragraph 3.
          The rights and freedoms of man and citizen may be limited by federal law only to the extent that this is necessary for the purposes
          defense
          foundations of the constitutional order,
          morality, health,
          rights and legitimate interests of other persons,
          ensuring the country's defense and state security."

          There is no list of who these other persons are...

          Bolshevik Putin, as the guarantor of the Constitution (his signature on the Laws adopted by the Duma speaks precisely of this), had no reason not to sign it.

          Conclusion:
          Although the constitution stipulates that the president determines the main directions of domestic policy, it is the Duma that shapes it through the adoption of laws, i.e., United Russia, which has a constitutional majority in the Duma and whose chairman is the Vlasovite Medvedev.
          1. +8
            24 November 2025 10: 33
            For example, I saw a speech on television by your Bolshevik, where he asked for "understanding." So it was him, and not some supposed Vlasovite. And don't fool people; Medvedev is his best friend.
            1. -2
              24 November 2025 10: 36
              Bolshevism is the essence of Russian civilization.

              Quote: Gardamir
              And don't try to fool people, Medvedev is his best friend.

              You don't understand a damn thing about politics!
              Remember, there are no friends there. There are only interests!

              "State policy and management in a crowd-" elite "society is an agreement reached on the capabilities of various clan-corporate groupings in using the state structure and system to achieve their narrowly corporate goals."

              Putin and Medvedev are representatives of different clans.
              1. +6
                24 November 2025 10: 37
                Well, not a friend, just an active supporter. At least they have more in common.
                1. -4
                  24 November 2025 10: 44
                  Bolshevism is the essence of Russian civilization.

                  Quote: Gardamir
                  At least they have more in common.

                  The fact that Putin is forced to work with United Russia does not indicate his love for them.
                  The same pension law says a lot.
                  And the events in Libya, when, at Medvedev's insistence, Russia joined the UN's no-fly zone, something Putin openly opposed...
                  1. +7
                    24 November 2025 10: 51
                    By the way, it was Putin, not Medvedev, who asked to join NATO.
                    1. -2
                      24 November 2025 10: 55
                      Bolshevism is the essence of Russian civilization.

                      Quote: Gardamir
                      By the way, it was Putin, not Medvedev, who asked to join NATO.

                      Trolled.
                    2. -1
                      24 November 2025 11: 13
                      Add.

                      The inter-clan struggle for a "place in the sun" can be clearly seen in the example of various Duma convocations:

                      "According to convocations

                      1st convocation (1994-1996)

                      Russia's Choice (76)
                      New Regional Policy (65)
                      Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (63)
                      Agro-Industrial Deputy Group (55)
                      Outside the faction (47)
                      Communist Party of the Russian Federation (45)
                      Party of Russian Unity and Accord (30)
                      Apple (25)
                      Women of Russia (23)
                      Democratic Party of Russia (15)

                      [45]
                      2nd convocation (1996-2000)

                      Communist Party of the Russian Federation (149)
                      Our home is Russia (65)
                      Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (51)
                      Apple (46)
                      Regions of Russia (42)
                      Democracy (37)
                      Agro-Industrial Deputy Group (35)
                      Outside the faction (25)

                      [46]
                      Third convocation (2000-2003)

                      Communist Party of the Russian Federation (95)
                      Unity (81)
                      People's Party of the Russian Federation (58)
                      Fatherland - All Russia (43)
                      Regions of Russia (40)
                      Agro-Industrial Deputy Group (35)
                      Union of Right Forces (33)
                      Apple (21)
                      Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (17)
                      Outside the faction (17)

                      [47]
                      IV convocation (2003-2007)

                      United Russia (300)
                      Communist Party of the Russian Federation (52)
                      Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (36)
                      Homeland (36)

                      [48]
                      5th convocation (2007-2011)

                      United Russia (315)
                      Communist Party of the Russian Federation (57)
                      Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (40)
                      A Just Russia – For Truth (38)

                      [49]
                      6th convocation (2011-2016)

                      United Russia (238)
                      Communist Party of the Russian Federation (92)
                      A Just Russia – For Truth (64)
                      Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (56)

                      7th convocation (2016–2021)

                      United Russia (344)
                      Communist Party of the Russian Federation (42)
                      Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (39)
                      A Just Russia – For Truth (23)
                      Outside the faction (2)

                      VIII convocation (2021–present)

                      United Russia (325)
                      Communist Party of the Russian Federation (57)
                      A Just Russia – For Truth (28)
                      Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (23)
                      New People (15)
                      Outside the faction (2)
                      .... "
          2. +2
            24 November 2025 10: 37
            Please keep your conclusions to yourself. Don't shape public opinion.
            1. -1
              24 November 2025 10: 38
              Bolshevism is the essence of Russian civilization.

              Quote: Vladivostok1969
              Don't shape public opinion.

              And allow you to shape public opinion with impunity? laughing
              Do not wait!
  24. +11
    24 November 2025 08: 27
    I recognized the author from the first lines)
    In general, Andrei Nikolaevich writes everything correctly. But I have a feeling that this plan has already received approval "from above," and all our arguments and concerns are meaningless.
  25. +1
    24 November 2025 09: 17
    "Trump's 28 Points: A Peace Treaty or a Trojan Horse?"
    Peaceful Trojan Horse. Yes
  26. +2
    24 November 2025 09: 27
    Trump's 28 Points: A Peace Treaty or a Trojan Horse?

    This whole mess was not created by the State Department and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, it was created by third parties...
    And here is the most interesting part: in whose interests was this created, if the official structures of the states were not allowed to create it?
  27. +2
    24 November 2025 09: 45
    Has any agreement with the collective West over the last 100 years been beneficial to Russia?
    1. -2
      24 November 2025 13: 49
      The Potsdam Agreement, for example.
  28. +2
    24 November 2025 10: 04
    Well, Odessa will remain under French control, a NATO country.
    1. +7
      24 November 2025 10: 38
      Half the Duma is under NATO. The second one is under God knows what. The Federation Council is under a liberal shrew. And you're worried about Odessa.
  29. +3
    24 November 2025 10: 19
    The main thing is that the Kremlin sees this Trojan horse and is not deceived again.
    1. +4
      24 November 2025 10: 58
      The main thing is for you to understand that the Kremlin is thinking about its own people, and they invented a horse for you.
  30. +2
    24 November 2025 10: 24
    What could this so-called peace treaty, which hasn't yet been adopted (we perceive it as a Trojan horse), lead to? Is there an example in our Russian history? Are the Secret Protocols to the Non-Aggression Pact with Germany, the Brest-Litovsk Treaty, the Treaty with Japan after the 1905 war, and the Treaty after the Crimean War compatible? If we accept the US plan, we won't have to fight for our goals again by force of arms. We won't step on the same rake. By leaving Ukraine independent with various reservations, we'll end up with a second Kosovo, hundreds of times stronger than the first.hi
    1. +4
      24 November 2025 10: 50
      A Trojan horse is when you're deceived. Here, everything is clearly spelled out in the contract. And whoever agrees can, of course, later claim they were deceived. We'll still choose them.
  31. +6
    24 November 2025 10: 27
    Everything said below is, of course, the opinion of an armchair analyst, but this entire plan is a banal attempt to force us to choose the lesser evil - either a plan, or a refusal to negotiate with all the ensuing consequences.
    The plan will now be demonstratively agreed upon by the clown, with hand-wringing, and then handed over to Russia for signature. Everyone understands perfectly well that we will reject it, and this will be presented as our unwillingness to negotiate.
    Well, if we sign it, it's capitulation, if you look at it through the prism of the declared goals of the SVO. No real demilitarization—which, in my opinion, would leave the 404th with only a police force, without any heavy equipment—no denazification, no Russian language.
    It feels like our troops are being pushed out of the Kursk region deep into the Russian Federation and we are trying with all our might to stop the offensive.
    And most importantly, after Minsk and Istanbul, ALL such agreements should be GUARANTEED by our troops. That is, after the blatant deception in each of the aforementioned agreements, we should be the ones with 300 billion in the Central Bank, not the other way around. But it turns out that after screwing us over three times, they're telling us they'll definitely be fair the fourth time. We swear on our mothers.
  32. +3
    24 November 2025 10: 35
    No matter how much our audience might be riled by Trump's insolence, this plan will be discussed. Both with the Ukrainian Armed Forces' 600-strong force and with OUR money being spent on them. After all, given our domestic situation, it's not yet clear who needs such a treaty more. They or we...
  33. 0
    24 November 2025 10: 37
    Whatever anyone says, the American plan can be adopted as a basis for our side. Adjustments are inevitable, but as a framework, this document is definitely a path to peace. But what the EU has come up with from the 24 points is definitely a continuation of the war. Absolutely and inevitably. The plan of these monsters is clear: the weakening of Russia. If this requires another million Ukrainian lives, no big deal; it's worth dying for. Ukrainians. That's who we're sharing the continent with...
    1. +3
      24 November 2025 10: 59
      Adjustments are inevitable, but as a framework, this document is definitely a path to peace. And here is what the EU people gave birth to24 points - this is definitely a continuation of the war. Absolutely and inevitably. The plan of these monsters is clear - to weaken Russia..

      Any plan they propose to us is aimed at weakening us, weakening Russia...
      and here it is impossible/wrong to choose between a greater and a lesser evil: it is still EVIL!
      evil that will bring us trouble in the near or distant future...
      1. 0
        24 November 2025 20: 03
        I'm not a supporter of the Americans. But the system has shifted. Now, cooperation with the Americans can lead to peace on acceptable terms. Our current enemy is Europe.
  34. +1
    24 November 2025 11: 43
    More like a peace horse or a Trojan treaty
  35. +2
    24 November 2025 11: 45
    The American plan is no longer relevant... the Europeans have cobbled together their own opus, which is four points shorter and according to which Russia owes everyone. It seems the guys have completely lost their way...
    1. 0
      24 November 2025 20: 06
      Not only have they messed up the edges, they're also committing hara-kiri against the Ukrainians. The JEPs ripped themselves open, and the Euro-insane are ripping the Ukrainians open. And those?!!! Are they ready to be ripped open! What's that?!
  36. 0
    24 November 2025 13: 47
    So, it's happened. The Americans have put forward their plan for resolving the Russian-Ukrainian conflict.

    I wouldn't rush into such statements. The plan is currently being coordinated with the Ukrainians, and it's still unclear what they're "coordinating."
  37. +6
    24 November 2025 14: 06
    The very fact that Russia is seriously discussing our enemies' plan is absurd and shameful. If you're going to fight, then fight, and don't run to some foreign uncle overseas in the fourth year to ensure peace for you!!!
    1. 0
      24 November 2025 20: 09
      To consolidate our success and bring the guys home – that's your idea of ​​running? Fell off the couch, it happens. Well, thank God people like you aren't allowed to make decisions. Exactly!!! I have the honor!
      1. +4
        24 November 2025 20: 24
        Quote: Glagol1
        To consolidate our success and bring the guys home - is that running for you?

        The problem is that with such a peace plan, the guys will return home not forever, but for a short visit, after which there will be war again and in worse conditions than today.
  38. +4
    24 November 2025 14: 15
    Jesus, it's all about the money. Trump is telling our backroom people: "Okay, pay a third of the available funds. You're clearly not winning anyway, and your resources are limited. We're clearly not winning either, and we still have plenty of resources. And we'll split the rest of the money like civilized people, and no one will leave feeling offended." The rest of the points, like this split, are to be channeled into the right direction.
  39. -3
    24 November 2025 14: 21
    Time is on our side. This plan can be worked out until the second coming of Christ. And then Ukrainians will end.
  40. -1
    24 November 2025 14: 28
    9. European fighter jets will be deployed in Poland

    It's not entirely clear what is meant here.

    A renunciation of the Russia-NATO Founding Act, concluded under Yeltsin, which prohibited the deployment of infrastructure east of existing borders. This provision envisions the permanent deployment of NATO aircraft in Poland, with the associated supporting infrastructure.
  41. +1
    24 November 2025 16: 22
    The main goal of the SVO is the demilitarization of Ukraine. What kind of demilitarization are we talking about with a 600-strong peacetime army? Is this some kind of bad joke? This will be the largest peacetime army in Europe. There are no restrictions on armaments other than the use of nuclear weapons.
    Demilitarization means 60 thousand military personnel without any missiles or drones with a range of more than 100 km and without the production and import of such weapons.
    The very idea that Ukraine should be armed so that it could "guarantee" itself against a Russian attack is absurd. Then Serbia, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Cuba, Venezuela, and so on would have to deploy huge armies and arm them to the teeth to guarantee against a US and NATO attack, and Palestine and Lebanon against an Israeli attack.
    Only a friendly policy that takes into account the interests of a powerful neighbor can guarantee peace for Russia's neighbors, as well as for the neighbors of the United States.
  42. 0
    24 November 2025 16: 24
    Frankly, it's hard to imagine that Putin discussed THIS OPUS in this form with Trump in Anchorage.
  43. 0
    24 November 2025 16: 34
    I completely agree with the author: all they've done is set traps, and the cheese is at the end of the corridor. Their stated goals haven't been achieved. Things don't work out, it happens. The US is the undisputed beneficiary. And if they manage to push through such an agreement, the hegemon and Europe will be in the clear again; do whatever you want and whoever you want.
  44. +1
    24 November 2025 16: 41
    When negotiating with the West, Russia has always had, has, and will continue to have a "Trojan horse." This postulate must form the foundation of state axiomatics; only then will it be possible to avoid being "led by the nose."
  45. +5
    24 November 2025 16: 52
    Judging by the excitement on our national channels, Putin is ready to sign it right now. And he will sign it, and the people will be thrilled.
  46. 0
    24 November 2025 18: 09
    It's safe to say that this is a scam.
    In 100 days there will be elections, a new puppet of the West comes and scurries into the court of the Ukrainian Reich, and that time, he delivers a verdict, saying that the narco-fuhrer was expired, his signature has zero legitimacy, let's keep fighting!
    And 5-6 months passed, the Ukrainian Wehrmacht was replenished, armed and went into battle with renewed vigor.
    And from our side, "Yaroslavna's Lament", they say, ah, we've been deceived again...
  47. 0
    24 November 2025 18: 12
    Quote: lin
    Judging by the excitement on our national channels, Putin is ready to sign it right now. And he will sign it, and the people will be thrilled.

    Of course, the prospect of shopping in the West again, enjoying the cash, and returning to their Western mansions looms large. Now the waiting party, the party of the obscene deal, the oligarchs, and the bankers are thrashing in the corridors of power, hysterically demanding that all provisions be accepted without question.
  48. +1
    24 November 2025 18: 17
    The plan is simply a smokescreen after a corruption scandal. How can public opinion be swayed by an even bigger scandal?
  49. +1
    24 November 2025 22: 10
    laughing
    Funny.
    The author's article about the fleet - 64 comments.
    Article about the "Trump plan" - 151 comments.
    request
    By SABJ.
    Someone bit request the author of excellent articles, IMHO (this "someone" winked Every other day he writes an analysis that doesn't come true). There's no other reason why the respected author began commenting on "Agent Krasnov's" unofficial ideas—which even Agent Krasnov himself doesn't subscribe to—IMHO (a form of harsh mockery). recourse I don't rule out the possibility of the local elite, but I don't believe in such cruelty of the author over "giants of thought, fathers of Russian democracy and persons close to the emperor" (c) I don't want to...).

    Moreover, for the sake of comparison, one should not forget other verbal plans of agent Krasnov, such as the annexation of Canada laughing and Greenland lol .
    Spoiler alert: there's no point discussing this character's words; his actions are far more interesting: Agent Krasnov "successfully" took Russia's share of the gas market and is now putting pressure on oil prices. Furthermore, he's "sawed up" the assets of major companies and is preventing respected individuals from buying them!
    request
  50. -1
    25 November 2025 07: 55
    I'd like to ask: where did the author get these points? Are they officially published?
  51. 0
    25 November 2025 14: 12
    What a stupid expression on the faces of European diplomats in the photo.
  52. +1
    25 November 2025 22: 33
    If we look at it realistically, based on Russia's actual capabilities, and not the wishes of commentators, these are very good proposals.
    Because we can only achieve the liberation of small territories on our own, and if we liberate all of Ukraine, it will take another 50 years.
    And the economy is already bursting at the seams.
    1. +1
      26 November 2025 09: 15
      These would be good proposals if they resulted in peace, even a compromise. But there's a strong feeling that with such proposals, instead of peace, we'll get a short-lived truce, and then war again, but the fighting will be more difficult. Do we really need that?
      1. 0
        26 November 2025 22: 47
        The question is, can we even end the Cold War with Ukraine's capitulation? We could simply run out of steam, completely exhausting our economy and human resources.
        What will make it more difficult later?
        Only if Ukraine prepares, and we don't. But then the problem isn't in the world or in Ukraine.
        1. +1
          27 November 2025 07: 03
          Quote: AppoloDiomed
          The question is, can we even end the SVO with Ukraine’s capitulation?

          I do not think.
          Quote: AppoloDiomed
          What will make it more difficult later?

          Described in the article. Regrouping, recapturing the territories we fought so hard to recapture + funding the Ukrainian Armed Forces
  53. 0
    26 November 2025 09: 54
    Until the Ukrainian Armed Forces are defeated or come close to defeat, no one will sign any ceasefires.
  54. 0
    27 November 2025 06: 49
    It's a fine plan, but there's no mention of denazification, demilitarization, neutral status, or other goals of the Central Military District. It's Brzezinski's plan—peace at Russia's expense, against Russia. NATO is suffering defeat in Ukraine, and the acts of capitulation are anything but—a false narrative or a public opinion probe.
  55. 0
    28 November 2025 12: 55
    A cunning plan. The Western world is outmaneuvering us again.
    He's pushing Putin into a corner, if not completely out of it. He didn't hit him with a nuclear weapon...
    We offered you peace...
  56. -1
    29 November 2025 04: 42
    Of course, this is a plan for Russia's capitulation. But... it turns out it can be used as a basis (guess who said that?) As a basis for capitulation?